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[2016-07-26 14:22:30] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-07-26 14:22:34] rapidtrades : does anyone have a clue what he's talking about
[2016-07-26 14:22:46] rapidtrades : he's like a rambling idiot
[2016-07-26 14:23:05] wurstgelee : vice versa tbh
[2016-07-26 14:23:18] rapidtrades : IM JUST ASKING QUESTIONS MAN
[2016-07-26 14:23:31] bmxalgobtc : but you're not able to comprehend the answers
[2016-07-26 14:23:33] wurstgelee : an all the questions were answered
[2016-07-26 14:23:37] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-07-26 14:23:38] rapidtrades : noone has given me a good explanation
[2016-07-26 14:23:48] bmxalgobtc : yes 2 people so far, cf above
[2016-07-26 14:23:48] BitMEX_Wally : Do you have a question about BitMEX?
[2016-07-26 14:23:48] rapidtrades : how does a whale make money
[2016-07-26 14:23:51] wurstgelee : google for explanations. the answers were given
[2016-07-26 14:24:05] rapidtrades : all i hear is wine wine wine
[2016-07-26 14:24:13] wurstgelee : because you cant comprehend
[2016-07-26 14:24:14] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-07-26 14:24:18] rapidtrades : obv
[2016-07-26 14:24:41] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: i'll try. assume you buy the top on quarterlies, then price goes down, you get liquidated and the whale closes his short by buying your liquidation
[2016-07-26 14:24:46] wurstgelee : we all know how much u love reading...so go on..google & read ;)
[2016-07-26 14:25:47] rapidtrades : mrp1nk: ok that makes sense...problem is u have to control the market to be able to do that
[2016-07-26 14:25:53] lockhedge : when i'm grown up i'll become an ethereum classic whale
[2016-07-26 14:26:09] bmxalgobtc : mrp1nk: you made it too easy...
[2016-07-26 14:26:10] aethlios : new whales appeared at btc swap, let the big btc battle begin...
[2016-07-26 14:26:11] rapidtrades : and u have to know where stops / margin calls would happen
[2016-07-26 14:26:40] bmxalgobtc : rapidtrades: congratulations on your newly comprehended phenomena !
[2016-07-26 14:26:42] rapidtrades : unless ur an exchange, i don't see how u satisfy my 2 requirements above
[2016-07-26 14:27:24] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: that's a reasonable assumption
[2016-07-26 14:27:49] mrp1nk : another interesting question: how do you make money with a zero fee exchange
[2016-07-26 14:28:01] NukeLaloosh : margin lending
[2016-07-26 14:28:15] bmxalgobtc : mrp1nk: I think he learned enough for today, please stop now
[2016-07-26 14:28:24] mrp1nk : hehe
[2016-07-26 14:28:29] Rado : rapidtrades: why are you even arguing with them
[2016-07-26 14:28:58] Rado : if you pick the wrong direction and get liquidated it's your own fucking fault
[2016-07-26 14:29:28] rapidtrades : are u sure its not the mystical jew whales?
[2016-07-26 14:29:31] bmxalgobtc : how is that even remotely related to the discussion ... ? @Rado
[2016-07-26 14:29:49] rapidtrades : throwing shekels around...
[2016-07-26 14:29:55] mrp1nk : that said, there is no proof that. could be just market and butthurt ppl that invent legends
[2016-07-26 14:30:11] mrp1nk : or conspiracy theories
[2016-07-26 14:30:36] rapidtrades : oh i believe okc is manipulating the shit out of the market...but okc doesn't have eth etc
[2016-07-26 14:31:01] mrp1nk : i thought we're tlaking about the corn
[2016-07-26 14:31:04] rapidtrades : and it prolly can't move bitcoin on its own
[2016-07-26 14:31:15] rapidtrades : what corn lol
[2016-07-26 14:31:23] mrp1nk : bitcorn
[2016-07-26 14:31:41] rapidtrades : nah bitcoin barely moved
[2016-07-26 14:32:23] rapidtrades : it can't margin call anyone :)
[2016-07-26 14:32:57] aethlios : Let's say a thanks to Bitmex for no DPE to ETC24H
[2016-07-26 14:33:15] mrp1nk : regarding okcoin: i have seen it many times that the price reverses when top longers got called, but could be coincidence
[2016-07-26 14:33:23] BitMEX_Sam : :tada:
[2016-07-26 14:33:28] laisee : hey, everyone happy with their free ETC today?
[2016-07-26 14:34:26] laisee : mrp1nk: coincidence is not distributed in equal portions globally ...
[2016-07-26 14:35:26] mrp1nk : laisee: sure, prob is that there is no way to proof that
[2016-07-26 14:35:44] laisee : statistics 101?
[2016-07-26 14:36:06] mrp1nk : doesn't proof it
[2016-07-26 14:36:18] mrp1nk : but yeah, with high probability it is as described before
[2016-07-26 14:36:23] laisee : oh, thats why I got a C in Stats 1010
[2016-07-26 14:37:59] aethlios : is it true bitfinex will add etc??
[2016-07-26 14:38:25] mrp1nk : yes
[2016-07-26 14:38:48] mrp1nk : i have seen pgp saying that in a chat
[2016-07-26 14:40:22] mrp1nk : don't forget to sell the news xD
[2016-07-26 14:40:39] aethlios : btc finex very bullish.
[2016-07-26 14:40:50] mrp1nk : i'm still thinking this will drop hard soon
[2016-07-26 14:41:40] mrp1nk : and by soon i mean very soon
[2016-07-26 14:41:45] justinlooking : mrp1nk: etc?
[2016-07-26 14:41:54] aethlios : if they pump etc to 0.01 and eth dumps to 0.015 then I will trade the spread to widen, short etc and long eth.
[2016-07-26 14:41:55] mrp1nk : jup
[2016-07-26 14:42:02] wurstgelee : dunno tbh
[2016-07-26 14:42:19] wurstgelee : finex add, then this other chinese exchange with y....
[2016-07-26 14:42:24] wurstgelee : the big one...
[2016-07-26 14:42:33] wurstgelee : 3 biggest eth exchanges trade etc then
[2016-07-26 14:42:37] mrp1nk : can't that yobit serious, but yea
[2016-07-26 14:42:41] mrp1nk : take
[2016-07-26 14:42:43] wurstgelee : not yobit
[2016-07-26 14:42:47] wurstgelee : yuo...thing
[2016-07-26 14:42:50] wurstgelee : that other name
[2016-07-26 14:43:08] aethlios : okcoin.com has litecoin future and no eth future with 5x litecoin's market cap.
[2016-07-26 14:43:54] wurstgelee : yuanbao
[2016-07-26 14:43:56] wurstgelee : iirc
[2016-07-26 14:44:11] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: http://imgur.com/a/Rn8eJ please investigate. price is wrong, liquidation should not have happend (even though barely) :(
[2016-07-26 14:45:00] rapidtrades : i will LOL my ass off if ETC>ETH
[2016-07-26 14:45:12] BitMEX_Sam : fineregex: Please submit a support ticket, not best to broadcast your account details on public chat
[2016-07-26 14:45:30] BitMEX_Sam : The liquidation email will have notified you of your liquidation price and what the mark price was at the time of liquidation.
[2016-07-26 14:45:43] rapidtrades : vitalik#s gang prolly has too much $$$ for that to happen but one can dream :)
[2016-07-26 14:46:47] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: the price didnt even happen on poloniex
[2016-07-26 14:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 40 @ 0.003195
[2016-07-26 14:46:58] justinlooking : rapid: do u even fork bro?
[2016-07-26 14:47:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 1600 @ 0.003038
[2016-07-26 14:47:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 142 @ 0.003075
[2016-07-26 14:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 1300 @ 0.003006
[2016-07-26 14:48:10] jesperf : dem corrections are brutal
[2016-07-26 14:48:22] aethlios : place your bets for tommorows price settlement
[2016-07-26 14:48:45] aethlios : I am buying all liq at 0.002
[2016-07-26 14:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : fineregex: The price you see a liquidation executed at is the price the trading engine used, not your actual liquidation price. See your email
[2016-07-26 14:49:16] laisee : aethlios: are there degen gamblers among us?
[2016-07-26 14:50:32] aethlios : laisee: no gamblers, speculators the right word, some are wild.
[2016-07-26 14:51:06] laisee : thats good. gambling is for loosers.
[2016-07-26 14:51:10] dasdfasdf : BitMEX_Sam: What do you mean trading engine used?
[2016-07-26 14:51:32] BitMEX_Sam : dasdfasdf: When a liquidation occurs the trading engine takes over the position and resubmits it at the bankruptcy price.
[2016-07-26 15:04:46] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: hey, is is possible to implement dragging orders up and down on the chart and actually changing the entry price like in MetaTrader?
[2016-07-26 15:05:10] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: Not likely in the short term as TradingView has some bugs we would need to take time to work around
[2016-07-26 15:05:24] BitMEX_Sam : It's on my list though, but we have some other priorities that are coming first
[2016-07-26 15:06:04] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: cool
[2016-07-26 15:09:41] justinlooking : Sam can you make a black theme?
[2016-07-26 15:10:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 400 @ 0.002927
[2016-07-26 15:10:49] BitMEX_Greg : justinlooking: have a look at the top
[2016-07-26 15:11:10] BitMEX_Greg : top right hand cog wheel*. In the settings there is a dark theme
[2016-07-26 15:11:49] BitMEX_Greg : Sorry not the cog wheel, the little user icon preferences.
[2016-07-26 15:12:02] justinlooking : black theme
[2016-07-26 15:15:32] justinlooking : eg: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8de6a6a023bbb88ba72014172eb0c5d8
[2016-07-26 15:15:40] mrp1nk : 16:40 - mrp1nk: i'm still thinking this will drop hard soon 16:41 - mrp1nk: and by soon i mean very soon
[2016-07-26 15:16:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 10 @ 0.002682
[2016-07-26 15:16:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 5 @ 0.002687
[2016-07-26 15:16:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 1510 @ 0.002710
[2016-07-26 15:17:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 625 @ 0.002622
[2016-07-26 15:17:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 350 @ 0.002654
[2016-07-26 15:17:14] macios15 : perfect bubble on etc lol
[2016-07-26 15:17:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 170 @ 0.002616
[2016-07-26 15:17:59] BitMEX_Greg : justinlooking: will take a look
[2016-07-26 15:19:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC24H`: Buy 200 @ 0.002805
[2016-07-26 15:21:07] mrp1nk : what if i told ya: told ya xD
[2016-07-26 15:21:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 14 @ 0.002489
[2016-07-26 15:21:23] jesperf : boom :D
[2016-07-26 15:21:25] macios15 : plum wall down
[2016-07-26 15:22:07] elmorte : what's the bottom
[2016-07-26 15:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 10 @ 0.002409
[2016-07-26 15:22:15] macios15 : next stop 0,0015
[2016-07-26 15:22:18] elmorte : sub 2000?
[2016-07-26 15:22:32] elmorte : hmm...that's where my highest bid is at...
[2016-07-26 15:22:55] elmorte : so it will probably bounce at 16
[2016-07-26 15:23:41] macios15 : "probably"
[2016-07-26 15:23:51] macios15 : buy walls are fake
[2016-07-26 15:23:55] mrp1nk : previous resistance is around here
[2016-07-26 15:24:41] mik : اه
[2016-07-26 15:24:44] mik : hi
[2016-07-26 15:25:00] mik : Your position in the contract ETC24H has been liquidated
[2016-07-26 15:25:09] mik : whats means from this?
[2016-07-26 15:25:35] macios15 : fill your shorts now lol
[2016-07-26 15:25:50] mrp1nk : i have bad news for you
[2016-07-26 15:25:51] mik : macios15: i losed my coins?
[2016-07-26 15:26:02] macios15 : mik: yes
[2016-07-26 15:26:25] mik : oh shit
[2016-07-26 15:26:26] mik : hm
[2016-07-26 15:26:35] mik : i had almost 0.99btc
[2016-07-26 15:27:40] elmorte : that's almost 1
[2016-07-26 15:28:10] mik : can i recover that?
[2016-07-26 15:28:40] macios15 : mik: before expiry
[2016-07-26 15:29:06] elmorte : what was the expiry date?
[2016-07-26 15:29:49] mik : i dont know.
[2016-07-26 15:30:03] elmorte : damn...
[2016-07-26 15:30:12] mik : but at poloniex i can cancel my orders without expiry time!
[2016-07-26 15:30:24] mik : :(
[2016-07-26 15:30:26] elmorte : if the UI lets you...
[2016-07-26 15:30:34] BitMEX_Wally : Order can be canceled at any time
[2016-07-26 15:30:44] BitMEX_Wally : Positions can be closed at any time.
[2016-07-26 15:30:51] BitMEX_Wally : But once a position has been liquidated... it's already closed
[2016-07-26 15:32:20] mik : liquidated ? ok thanks
[2016-07-26 15:32:54] macios15 : mik: soo, you opened 1btc position in etc ?
[2016-07-26 15:33:09] mik : yes
[2016-07-26 15:33:30] macios15 : mik: lol, thats like insta rekt look at order book
[2016-07-26 15:33:32] mik : so my coins goes to bitmex team, rights? i think isnt fair!
[2016-07-26 15:33:50] macios15 : mik: that was too big i think for that market
[2016-07-26 15:34:01] Rado : mik: it doesn't go to BitMEX team
[2016-07-26 15:34:28] macios15 : others wins and dpe insurance if im right
[2016-07-26 15:34:35] Rado : also you don't have any coins. You are buying a contract
[2016-07-26 15:34:36] mik : so where is my coins?
[2016-07-26 15:34:48] elmorte : mik: you got margin called if that sounds more familiar
[2016-07-26 15:34:51] BitMEX_Wally : You went long, the price dropped, you were liquidated
[2016-07-26 15:35:10] ayy_lmao : this isn't a spot exchange
[2016-07-26 15:35:13] Rado : mik: perhaps you can use the testnet to get more familiar with the system
[2016-07-26 15:35:14] mik : ohh so this site is different with poloniex ?
[2016-07-26 15:35:17] ayy_lmao : yes
[2016-07-26 15:35:18] BitMEX_Wally : So the people who were short made profit
[2016-07-26 15:35:21] Mangalica : and the person who went short got it as profit, you cannot take it back from him
[2016-07-26 15:35:32] elmorte : I would if I could...
[2016-07-26 15:35:47] Mangalica : from my cold dead account
[2016-07-26 15:35:49] mik : oh i understand now !
[2016-07-26 15:36:04] Rado : mik: https://testnet.bitmex.com/ create a test account here
[2016-07-26 15:36:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.01894
[2016-07-26 15:36:32] mik : Rado: now i dont need test account.
[2016-07-26 15:36:48] Mangalica : you have to be careful when the market is going up and down like this, it's very easy to get liquidated
[2016-07-26 15:36:53] macios15 : you could get your 1 btc back if you win it back before expiry date
[2016-07-26 15:36:57] elmorte : mik: first time I lost 1BTC, I put in 3 more...
[2016-07-26 15:37:19] Mangalica : i mean you have to be careful anyway, but especially in markets like this
[2016-07-26 15:37:23] elmorte : and then after I lost those 3...
[2016-07-26 15:37:41] mik : thanks guys.
[2016-07-26 15:38:05] elmorte : A smart dude once told me here to play with 1 contract only at first...
[2016-07-26 15:38:22] macios15 : even market maker boot is too slow for poloniex lol
[2016-07-26 15:38:52] Mangalica : MM bots are a lot snappier than they used to be half a year ago or so
[2016-07-26 15:38:52] mik : but im working with poloniex.simple trade!
[2016-07-26 15:40:43] elmorte : Poloniex exchange would be a spot exchange...in spot is where you learn at first. This here BitMEX is a derivative exchange...it's leveraged so the risk is X times higher
[2016-07-26 15:41:10] elmorte : Poloniex also has margin trading where you can leverage
[2016-07-26 15:41:36] elmorte : and that would carry a more significant risk
[2016-07-26 15:42:53] mik : i dont know any knowledge about derivative exchange! so its better i leave there :(
[2016-07-26 15:43:25] macios15 : mik: you could give me that 1 btc lol
[2016-07-26 15:44:34] mik : macios15: but i losed my coins :D
[2016-07-26 15:46:21] mik : bye guys
[2016-07-26 15:47:40] mrp1nk : just don't go all in bro. start small by using only 5% of your stack and you'll be fine @mik
[2016-07-26 15:47:48] BitMEX_Wally : mik: You can drag the leverage selector from 5x to 1x then it's like spot trading
[2016-07-26 15:48:28] mrp1nk : "fine" as in be prepared to blow you're account 2-3 times
[2016-07-26 15:48:59] elmorte : mrp1nk: ha! so true :(
[2016-07-26 15:49:27] elmorte : Of all the things I lost...ETH cost me the most...
[2016-07-26 15:50:16] elmorte : *times
[2016-07-26 16:01:43] macios15 : etc market maker is retarded lol
[2016-07-26 16:08:24] justinlooking : how so?
[2016-07-26 16:08:29] elmorte : how can you be sure?
[2016-07-26 16:10:03] aethlios : Just don't leverage down with margin, this is a recipe for a margin call.
[2016-07-26 16:11:01] aethlios : okcoin futures small 3 usd pre-pump move
[2016-07-26 16:26:31] justinlooking : hngngnhnhnhgn
[2016-07-26 16:27:36] elmorte : justinlooking: wake up
[2016-07-26 16:32:07] jung1 : 100k volume
[2016-07-26 16:32:16] jung1 : whoop whoop'
[2016-07-26 16:40:47] macios15 : eth is at trend line if it goes under 0,017 big dump incoming
[2016-07-26 16:46:30] jung1 : 1eth=1etc=0.01btc soon
[2016-07-26 16:50:06] mrp1nk : so this was the etc dead cat bounce i think
[2016-07-26 16:50:34] Haythem : it will go up until tomorrow
[2016-07-26 16:50:52] mrp1nk : why should itg
[2016-07-26 16:50:53] mrp1nk : it
[2016-07-26 16:51:29] mrp1nk : imo this was "return to normal" phase
[2016-07-26 16:52:14] wurstgelee : finex and yuanbao listing
[2016-07-26 16:52:20] Haythem : yes
[2016-07-26 16:52:22] mrp1nk : this etc is doing a perfect crash cycle within 46h
[2016-07-26 16:52:27] Haythem : other exchanges are listing it
[2016-07-26 16:52:27] wurstgelee : mrp1nk: thats y ;)
[2016-07-26 16:52:43] mrp1nk : sorry, 48h
[2016-07-26 16:52:50] wurstgelee : new ath within 24h imo
[2016-07-26 16:52:57] wurstgelee : after that, tomorrow, we will dump ;)
[2016-07-26 16:52:58] mrp1nk : hmm...
[2016-07-26 16:52:59] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-07-26 16:53:06] mrp1nk : i bet against it
[2016-07-26 16:53:29] wurstgelee : china doesnt trade it yet, it will with yuanbao listing
[2016-07-26 16:53:38] wurstgelee : so u are short?
[2016-07-26 16:53:41] laisee : etc fundamentals are good, tho.
[2016-07-26 16:53:42] wurstgelee : i am long :p
[2016-07-26 16:53:48] mrp1nk : wurstgelee: i just shorted it yeah
[2016-07-26 16:53:55] mrp1nk : little bit late to the party because i was afk
[2016-07-26 16:53:55] Haythem : also people are buying it because it's cheaper tha eth to use the blockchain
[2016-07-26 16:53:59] wurstgelee : laisee: pretty much the same as eth ;)
[2016-07-26 16:54:23] laisee : but it cost 0.00 to create ...
[2016-07-26 16:54:52] wurstgelee : same for eth. but ppl paid a lot of btc to the creators who created it for free :p
[2016-07-26 16:55:17] wurstgelee : i get what u are saying tho
[2016-07-26 16:55:27] wurstgelee : ofc u have ppl dumping it for easy, free btc
[2016-07-26 16:55:35] wurstgelee : but eth had the same since it traded way above ico
[2016-07-26 16:55:55] wurstgelee : doesnt matter if ppl hold multibaggers or free coins
[2016-07-26 16:55:59] wurstgelee : incentive to dump is the same
[2016-07-26 16:56:05] wurstgelee : doesnt change market dynamics imo
[2016-07-26 16:56:23] wurstgelee : maybe right after lauch but after a while
[2016-07-26 16:56:27] wurstgelee : *not
[2016-07-26 16:56:30] mrp1nk : look at that structure http://prnt.sc/bxsqut and tell me again this will ooon
[2016-07-26 16:56:35] mrp1nk : moon
[2016-07-26 16:57:09] wurstgelee : etc price discovery hasnt finished yet imo
[2016-07-26 16:57:14] wurstgelee : so any TA is futile
[2016-07-26 16:57:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-07-26 16:57:29] mrp1nk : we will see
[2016-07-26 16:57:35] wurstgelee : yep ofc
[2016-07-26 16:57:38] mrp1nk : hard to tell at this stage
[2016-07-26 16:57:42] wurstgelee : exactlxy
[2016-07-26 16:58:05] jung1 : up we go
[2016-07-26 16:58:33] wurstgelee : hashrate doubled withingt <10h btw
[2016-07-26 16:58:36] wurstgelee : *within
[2016-07-26 16:58:37] mrp1nk : but that 0.0024 line was hit perfectly
[2016-07-26 16:58:43] mrp1nk : xD
[2016-07-26 16:59:33] wurstgelee : i said etc:eth will hit 2:1 rate earlier
[2016-07-26 16:59:37] wurstgelee : i still stick to it
[2016-07-26 16:59:43] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-07-26 16:59:45] mrp1nk : hehe
[2016-07-26 16:59:53] mrp1nk : see also http://www.thegoldandoilguy.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Stages-for-AAPL.png
[2016-07-26 17:00:01] Haythem : wurstgelee: that's what will happen
[2016-07-26 17:00:02] wurstgelee : this scenario requires a massive eth dukmp ofc
[2016-07-26 17:00:32] wurstgelee : Haythem: i am counting on it
[2016-07-26 17:00:33] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-07-26 17:01:12] wurstgelee : well no, thats a lie. made enough profit with etc, anything which comes now is a nice plus
[2016-07-26 17:01:32] wurstgelee : would have been way more tho, but i didnt pay attention for 5 mins and got MC for 1600 conts :/
[2016-07-26 17:02:12] elmorte : Is there an exact time it's launching on finex?
[2016-07-26 17:02:30] wurstgelee : "wednesday" iirc
[2016-07-26 17:07:31] elmorte : ETC reached 600GH
[2016-07-26 17:07:38] elmorte : /s
[2016-07-26 17:07:52] elmorte : GH/s...not sarcasm :)
[2016-07-26 17:08:12] Mangalica : lol
[2016-07-26 17:08:35] BitMEX_Wally : http://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.html
[2016-07-26 17:09:06] Mangalica : 600 gigasarcasms
[2016-07-26 17:09:15] elmorte : It's not pulling in real time @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-07-26 17:09:22] elmorte : http://fork.ethstats.net/
[2016-07-26 17:09:26] elmorte : see for yourself
[2016-07-26 17:12:51] elmorte : slacknation finally updated
[2016-07-26 17:20:47] messiaen8844 : MAY THE BEST CHAIN WIN :)
[2016-07-26 17:21:27] messiaen8844 : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoS4oPIWIAAwi0-.jpg
[2016-07-26 17:21:31] messiaen8844 : a good lesson for BTC
[2016-07-26 17:24:07] jung1 : yeah in couple of years that case will be in economic books
[2016-07-26 17:27:21] zanza : wow wtf happened with ETC
[2016-07-26 17:28:27] elmorte : Hash rate 3608.2 GH/s 646.4 GH/s
[2016-07-26 17:29:24] Teddy76 : from around 4000gh vs 250gh 6h ago
[2016-07-26 17:30:41] wotan : crazy times inc rypto with etc today
[2016-07-26 17:31:49] mrp1nk : pgp (finex) is on whalepool teamspeak:
[2016-07-26 17:31:54] mrp1nk : they have had problems wallets lenders wont be getting etc margin users will wallet holders will
[2016-07-26 17:32:00] mrp1nk : (copy pasta)
[2016-07-26 17:32:13] elmorte : cheers
[2016-07-26 17:32:22] elmorte : so that's opposite of polo?
[2016-07-26 17:32:33] mrp1nk : idk
[2016-07-26 17:32:37] elmorte : with regards to margin
[2016-07-26 17:32:56] elmorte : I think lenders got etc, but borrowers not
[2016-07-26 17:32:56] mrp1nk : if you say so
[2016-07-26 17:37:22] mrp1nk : (i never used margin trading on polo)
[2016-07-26 17:39:38] elmorte : i read the forums
[2016-07-26 18:28:50] mrp1nk : ups
[2016-07-26 18:31:33] wurstgelee : there we go again
[2016-07-26 18:35:15] fineregex : i got etc for a long position borrowing
[2016-07-26 18:35:35] fineregex : but not for my dao tokens:-O:D
[2016-07-26 18:41:39] macios15 : etc bubble look like ltc 50$ one
[2016-07-26 18:43:03] justinlooking : REKT
[2016-07-26 18:44:28] mrp1nk : shieet
[2016-07-26 18:44:44] Mangalica : indeed
[2016-07-26 18:45:32] wurstgelee : crazy shit @ trex
[2016-07-26 18:45:33] wurstgelee : .006
[2016-07-26 18:45:34] wurstgelee : rofl
[2016-07-26 18:45:41] wurstgelee : ETC ofc
[2016-07-26 18:45:51] mrp1nk : crazy
[2016-07-26 18:46:23] mrp1nk : seems i was wrong
[2016-07-26 18:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 45 @ 0.01846
[2016-07-26 18:47:16] wurstgelee : mrp1nk: 1:2 ETC:ETH
[2016-07-26 18:47:20] wurstgelee : soon
[2016-07-26 18:47:21] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-07-26 18:48:00] mrp1nk : i think it's over when .18 breaks
[2016-07-26 18:48:18] mrp1nk : even o
[2016-07-26 18:49:00] mrp1nk : 0.0185 the level but could fakeout down
[2016-07-26 18:49:08] mrp1nk : +is
[2016-07-26 18:53:22] justinlooking : 0.175 is way more significant to me
[2016-07-26 18:53:35] scrawl : mrp1nk: do we know if we can short etc on finex?
[2016-07-26 18:54:22] justinlooking : *0.0175
[2016-07-26 18:55:44] mrp1nk : scrawl: dunno, but i think so if margin trading will be available
[2016-07-26 19:04:21] Rado : When is finex adding ETC?
[2016-07-26 19:08:08] mrp1nk : dunno, but kraken just announced that they will add it
[2016-07-26 19:13:39] Mangalica : finex is adding it tomorrow
[2016-07-26 19:14:08] Mangalica : they'll announce the exact time once they sorted out everything
[2016-07-26 19:20:50] Mangalica : btw. finex will unlikely to add margin trading right away
[2016-07-26 19:43:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 40 @ 0.01842
[2016-07-26 19:44:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 21 @ 0.003429
[2016-07-26 19:44:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 20 @ 0.003427
[2016-07-26 19:45:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 300 @ 0.003358
[2016-07-26 19:45:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 250 @ 0.003326
[2016-07-26 19:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 6 @ 0.003279
[2016-07-26 19:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 300 @ 0.003236
[2016-07-26 20:27:51] muirtastic : This may be a dumb question but why doesn't my Liq price go up on an open position when I just increased my wallet balance by 50%, due to another trade.
[2016-07-26 20:30:49] zanza : you are probably on isolated
[2016-07-26 20:30:53] mrp1nk : are you on isolated or cross margin?
[2016-07-26 20:30:54] zanza : check your position slider
[2016-07-26 20:31:05] Mangalica : or the profit isn't settled yet, that might affect it
[2016-07-26 20:32:12] Mangalica : otoh taking your principal out of another trade should definitely have an effect, so nvm
[2016-07-26 20:54:10] muirtastic : I'm on cross margin
[2016-07-26 20:55:56] muirtastic : I made the profit several hours ago and there has been a Funding event since then but do I have to wait for a "reblance" for it to help with my liquidation price?
[2016-07-26 20:58:39] justinlooking : yes, rebalance will release withheld balance and make it available as margin
[2016-07-26 20:58:59] justinlooking : *withheld profit
[2016-07-26 20:59:35] muirtastic : ok thanks, that makes sense. I should be ok until then
[2016-07-26 21:14:37] justinlooking : it's doing it again
[2016-07-26 21:18:30] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-07-26 21:18:43] wurstgelee : also..wtf...who is shorting NOW?
[2016-07-26 21:18:52] wurstgelee : down to .0034.....
[2016-07-26 21:18:53] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-07-26 21:21:17] Teddy76 : maybe long closing
[2016-07-26 21:25:05] wurstgelee : probably...but market closing that much into thin orderbooks in the minute it pumps again is just....dumb
[2016-07-26 21:27:10] muirtastic : I shorted a bit of ETC but small size.
[2016-07-26 21:27:26] muirtastic : I cleaned up on a short earlier but cautious now
[2016-07-26 21:28:30] wurstgelee : check polo
[2016-07-26 21:28:37] wurstgelee : huge buys atm
[2016-07-26 21:28:40] wurstgelee : big vol
[2016-07-26 21:28:46] wurstgelee : shorts are gonna get fucked
[2016-07-26 21:28:49] wurstgelee : *imo
[2016-07-26 21:28:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-07-26 21:29:06] muirtastic : There was a 350 BTC buy wall awhile ago at about 385
[2016-07-26 21:29:20] muirtastic : on ETC on Polo I mean
[2016-07-26 21:29:37] wurstgelee : 130k BTC ETC 24h vol @ polo now...
[2016-07-26 21:29:39] wurstgelee : crazy shit
[2016-07-26 21:29:57] wurstgelee : 385 is basically nothing tbh if u have THAT volume
[2016-07-26 21:30:08] wurstgelee : no serious resistance at least
[2016-07-26 21:30:39] wurstgelee : theres a 5 mint 1800 btc volume candle just a few minutes ago
[2016-07-26 21:30:43] wurstgelee : *minutes
[2016-07-26 21:31:06] starman : can i ddeposit etc?
[2016-07-26 21:31:14] starman : or just btc first timew on this site
[2016-07-26 21:31:25] wurstgelee : all trades are executed and setled in BTC
[2016-07-26 21:31:31] wurstgelee : *settled
[2016-07-26 21:31:34] wurstgelee : u dont need anything else
[2016-07-26 21:31:41] wurstgelee : u trade everything with btc
[2016-07-26 21:32:37] starman : asin i have etc can i deposit here?
[2016-07-26 21:33:18] mrp1nk : no
[2016-07-26 21:33:36] BitMEX_Sam : We're Bitcoin-denominated derivatives only here
[2016-07-26 21:34:18] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: all in on he didnt understand that sentence
[2016-07-26 21:34:19] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-07-26 21:34:50] Teddy76 : :)
[2016-07-26 21:38:09] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: maybe i dont see the obvious reason, but why didnt u do a perpetual swap for etc?
[2016-07-26 21:38:55] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Lots of reasons - volatility would cause wildly changing funding rates, and we want the ability to alter the contract (more/less leverage, longer/shorter terms) based on market conditions if necessary
[2016-07-26 21:39:03] wurstgelee : ah ok
[2016-07-26 21:39:20] wurstgelee : would need a more stable market....
[2016-07-26 21:39:40] wurstgelee : makes sense
[2016-07-26 21:39:42] muirtastic : What an incredible day. I wish I would have played it better but still some nice profit
[2016-07-26 21:49:27] Teddy76 : following days are crucial for ethereum
[2016-07-26 21:52:08] mrp1nk : regarding finex
[2016-07-26 21:52:09] mrp1nk : "lifehasnobackspace": it looks like we'll start trading ETC at 120 (noon) UTC tomorrow morning
[2016-07-26 21:52:45] Teddy76 : sadly, ethereum is a good tech, but hard fork isn't risk free
[2016-07-26 21:54:05] wurstgelee : wait for the next HF which is necessary now because eth devs didnt expect both chains to survive and now both are vulnerable to replay attacks
[2016-07-26 21:54:13] wurstgelee : etc devs already said they wont fork
[2016-07-26 21:54:15] wurstgelee : so eth has to
[2016-07-26 21:54:24] wurstgelee : then we will not have 2 but 3 ETHs
[2016-07-26 21:54:31] wurstgelee : what joy
[2016-07-26 21:54:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-07-26 21:54:59] wurstgelee : well tbh, the vulnerable ETH chain wont survive
[2016-07-26 21:55:03] Teddy76 : forked chain is vulnerable?
[2016-07-26 21:55:07] wurstgelee : but: another hard fork.
[2016-07-26 21:55:12] wurstgelee : both are vulnerable
[2016-07-26 21:55:18] wurstgelee : so one has to HF again
[2016-07-26 21:55:21] wurstgelee : either ETC or ETH
[2016-07-26 21:55:35] wurstgelee : ETC devs say "fuck u, u didnt properly fork. fix ur mess"
[2016-07-26 21:55:41] wurstgelee : and so it will happen
[2016-07-26 21:55:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-07-26 21:56:08] wurstgelee : etc just passed .004 again
[2016-07-26 21:57:07] wurstgelee : i dont really get why its traded at such an discount here...
[2016-07-26 22:00:01] justinlooking : i think it's because it has 14h bias applied to it (ie future, not now)
[2016-07-26 22:02:14] wurstgelee : might be, yes
[2016-07-26 22:02:33] wurstgelee : i am way more optimistic regarding ETC price development in the next 14h tho
[2016-07-26 22:02:34] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-07-26 22:09:31] Teddy76 : correlation on all other crypto is amazing, ETH/ETC get all attention and volume
[2016-07-26 22:12:05] wurstgelee : this ETC/ETH thing is awesome for crypto
[2016-07-26 22:12:37] justinlooking : 0.00420 blazeit
[2016-07-26 22:12:46] wurstgelee : justinlooking: tbh i do
[2016-07-26 22:12:49] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-07-26 22:13:00] mrp1nk : justinlooking: lol
[2016-07-26 22:19:25] Teddy76 : decentralization is amazing
[2016-07-26 22:20:18] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-07-26 22:20:19] Teddy76 : money is money :D
[2016-07-26 22:22:19] zanza : damn this is hilarious
[2016-07-26 22:30:26] Teddy76 : polo is the winner, they handle HF perfectly and are awarded now
[2016-07-26 22:35:17] wurstgelee : Teddy76: yep
[2016-07-26 23:15:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 291 @ 0.01846
[2016-07-26 23:29:23] bernx : woah
[2016-07-26 23:29:26] bernx : this spread in etc
[2016-07-26 23:30:28] laisee : pump.and.dump.repeat()
[2016-07-26 23:34:05] jordanbitfort : why bitmex prices so much lower than polo?
[2016-07-26 23:37:13] odieoh : for what?
[2016-07-26 23:39:22] ayy_lmao : market maker trying to profit
[2016-07-26 23:39:25] ayy_lmao : thats all
[2016-07-26 23:40:51] jordanbitfort : ETC trading 10% lower here
[2016-07-26 23:41:24] BitMEX_Greg : Need to account for the fact that theres no borrow available I guess
[2016-07-26 23:48:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 36 @ 0.01804
[2016-07-26 23:48:31] aethlios : finex stopped
[2016-07-26 23:50:59] bernx : ,
[2016-07-26 23:50:59] bernx : ?
[2016-07-26 23:53:35] miramm1115 : finex trading engine down, no trades or orderbook updates in the last 10 minutes
[2016-07-26 23:57:51] Mangalica : Finex is down guys
[2016-07-26 23:58:12] Mangalica : <01:53:20> "lifehasnobackspace": ok, guys, we stopped the trading engine and we are checking what went wrong with the positions, we'll resume as soon as we complete the checkings
[2016-07-26 23:59:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 4904 @ 0.003480
[2016-07-26 23:59:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 25 @ 0.003572
[2016-07-26 23:59:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 10 @ 0.003411
[2016-07-26 23:59:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 400 @ 0.003398
[2016-07-27 00:04:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.01837
[2016-07-27 00:04:25] Mangalica : <02:01:42> "lifehasnobackspace": we need 1 hr to reconcile positions as there was a problem and it went out of synch
[2016-07-27 00:18:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 40 @ 0.003284
[2016-07-27 00:18:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 670 @ 0.003292
[2016-07-27 00:18:19] zanza : `days without a Bitfinex crash` reset to 0 pls
[2016-07-27 00:18:23] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-07-27 00:25:29] rapidtrades : wtf finex u shit
[2016-07-27 00:25:44] rapidtrades : i should've pulled my coins earlier today
[2016-07-27 00:27:08] bernx : finex is threat now
[2016-07-27 00:27:15] bernx : they alredy do mess second time
[2016-07-27 00:27:51] bernx : first time they ruin long position at 700 with 19k btc
[2016-07-27 00:27:55] bernx : now they are do it again
[2016-07-27 00:28:47] rapidtrades : and this is why u don't mess around with counter-party risk
[2016-07-27 00:31:19] zanza : https://twitter.com/mrchrisellis/status/758025056824033280
[2016-07-27 00:34:49] rapidtrades : coinbase needs o be sued
[2016-07-27 00:35:18] bernx : less etc supply
[2016-07-27 00:35:19] bernx : good
[2016-07-27 00:39:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2 @ 0.01819 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-27 00:40:55] muirtastic : To see individual contract specifications, click the Contract Specifications section on the sidebar.
[2016-07-27 00:41:01] muirtastic : Where is it. I can't find it
[2016-07-27 00:41:11] muirtastic : I'm trying to find the info on ETC perpetual swap
[2016-07-27 00:41:28] muirtastic : i'm looking at the sidebar and it's not there
[2016-07-27 00:41:36] miramm1115 : top menu Contracts
[2016-07-27 00:42:01] muirtastic : ok thank you
[2016-07-27 00:42:07] miramm1115 : but there is no ETC perpetual swap, only 24h future
[2016-07-27 00:42:30] muirtastic : ok thanks. What exchange is used for the Mark price and for liquidation
[2016-07-27 00:42:45] muirtastic : I had a position get liquidated and was far above the poloniex price
[2016-07-27 00:42:50] muirtastic : I don't even know where else it is traded
[2016-07-27 00:44:49] miramm1115 : index is poloniex but mark price is index + fair basis
[2016-07-27 00:45:32] muirtastic : how would my position get closed out at a price that must have been 10% above poloniex at the time...or at least a good bit higher
[2016-07-27 00:48:03] miramm1115 : check with BitMEX for details but we were trading with a big discount here, so fair basis was probably like 10% of the price
[2016-07-27 00:48:53] rapidtrades : maybe finex downtime is in preparation for etc
[2016-07-27 00:49:32] muirtastic : I'm not talking about the mark price..was talking about the liquidation price. I don't see why 10% preimum would be added voer the polo market price. But yes I will email them. Thanks
[2016-07-27 00:51:48] jonny : so apparently 17% of eth miners are anarchists or singularity worshipers
[2016-07-27 00:51:52] jonny : who would have thought
[2016-07-27 00:52:19] jonny : muirtastic: it happend to me ~2bitcoin
[2016-07-27 00:52:40] jonny : at the same time the order book was 15 cheaper that poloniex
[2016-07-27 00:52:56] jonny : and the trigger at poloniex was just a single order not average over several seconds
[2016-07-27 00:52:56] rapidtrades : finex is such shit
[2016-07-27 00:53:00] ibnuH : fake order book
[2016-07-27 00:53:18] jonny : also it is pretty inaccurate to close any size of order in one moment instead of portions
[2016-07-27 00:54:31] jonny : in other words if i would have clicked close at the same time as the liquidation there my price would have been 25% better. but my liquidation never even appeared in the order book
[2016-07-27 00:54:38] muirtastic : i just don't get how position could have been liquidated at 45 when polo was trading at 42 and didn't even get above 43 during that time period
[2016-07-27 00:55:00] jonny : maybe it did for a single order
[2016-07-27 00:55:11] jonny : ?
[2016-07-27 00:55:17] muirtastic : no the price wasn't above that
[2016-07-27 00:55:30] rapidtrades : classic?
[2016-07-27 00:55:43] muirtastic : yes etc. I don't get it and frustrating of course
[2016-07-27 00:55:52] rapidtrades : btw why does ether forkers get to keep the ETH code..lameeeeeeee
[2016-07-27 00:55:54] muirtastic : my fault for not watching my liq price better