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[2016-07-09 22:02:51] migz : back to 45000 or 48000 cny?
[2016-07-09 22:03:00] migz : 4500 or 4800 i mean
[2016-07-09 22:05:22] jung1 : 48000
[2016-07-09 22:06:52] jung1 : lets break 4400 first
[2016-07-09 22:09:15] migz : who knows, they say it is bear. mmmm..
[2016-07-09 22:09:45] Roevenger : the world wants bullish, do you trust world's opinion?
[2016-07-09 22:11:29] rullwull : my bot algos to estimate reversal points, i was mentioned the next one by 15 m chart
[2016-07-09 22:12:06] Roevenger : agreed, unless volume spikes up
[2016-07-09 22:12:16] rullwull : we are still going below 600 by daily chart
[2016-07-09 22:12:42] rullwull : but it looks like one more climb before the dive
[2016-07-09 22:12:58] jung1 : rullwull: would love to see what indicators and rules you have in that bot
[2016-07-09 22:14:45] ax : awaiting REKTs
[2016-07-09 22:15:53] rullwull : bots algois based on analyzes of previous paterns and it finds the similar ones. i also use the common indicators and fibs for price retracments
[2016-07-09 22:17:01] migz : Thanks for the overview *_*
[2016-07-09 22:18:57] jung1 : have you think about develop some artificial intelligence based trading bot?
[2016-07-09 22:19:30] jung1 : could be interesting to teach machine how to trade
[2016-07-09 22:20:17] migz : bot success rate, is it even above 70 percent?
[2016-07-09 22:20:21] cekseh : Jung, that's next weekend bro.
[2016-07-09 22:21:07] jung1 : ?
[2016-07-09 22:22:48] jung1 : rullwull: https://github.com/carlos8f/zenbot
[2016-07-09 22:23:00] jung1 : automated Bitcoin trading bot for GDAX.
[2016-07-09 22:25:39] rullwull : bot helps me to analyze the market, i don't trust the code to trade, only manually)))
[2016-07-09 22:27:27] jung1 : so if its profitable maybe try to run some subscribtions
[2016-07-09 22:29:07] migz : maybe i'll short at 700. lmao
[2016-07-09 22:30:42] jung1 : Halving means half bitcoin price.
[2016-07-09 22:32:10] rullwull : @jung1 too early for sale,need to profit from it as much as possible))) however it makes mistakes from time to time that cost me a lot)))
[2016-07-09 22:32:46] jung1 : no risk no fun
[2016-07-09 22:32:58] rullwull : jung1: for sure)))
[2016-07-09 22:33:07] jesperf : )))))))
[2016-07-09 22:33:10] jung1 : do you have any resources that you would tecommend?
[2016-07-09 22:33:28] jung1 : except bitmex trollbox for shure
[2016-07-09 22:36:08] rullwull : im not active anymore as i was 3 or 4 years ago, i even left crypto trading for almost a year, finally a good fluctuation has return, so nothing to recommend at the moment
[2016-07-09 22:44:16] rullwull : i remember my first order on btce back in 2011 was 5.5K coins))) still keep a lot of coins that i bought below $1
[2016-07-09 22:47:07] jung1 : nice
[2016-07-09 22:48:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 230 @ 65466.0
[2016-07-09 22:48:51] migz : Nicely done :)
[2016-07-09 22:53:12] jung1 : end of rising?
[2016-07-09 22:55:12] migz : great day for trading, it was swinging 10 - 20 bucks every 8 hours. lol
[2016-07-09 22:56:33] rullwull : looks like wave 2 is completed, still wave 3 is coming, but not sure if it will be impulsive and can bit w2, to many bear pressure at the moment
[2016-07-09 23:24:41] jung1 : http://bitbonkers.com/
[2016-07-09 23:28:31] rullwull : @jung1 like watch on fire)
[2016-07-09 23:36:14] jung1 : cmon china
[2016-07-09 23:36:16] jung1 : make it green
[2016-07-09 23:49:24] jung1 : or let it fall
[2016-07-10 00:11:03] jung1 : aand huobi break 4340
[2016-07-10 00:12:41] jung1 : could be fun on ethereum in 4 days from now
[2016-07-10 00:12:42] jung1 : https://medium.com/ursium-blog/why-the-dao-robber-could-very-well-return-the-eth-on-july-14th-4ecb950c2592#.ufphdwoe5
[2016-07-10 01:46:05] Rado : so what now
[2016-07-10 01:46:10] Rado : dead in here
[2016-07-10 01:46:39] jung1 : only bots
[2016-07-10 01:48:50] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-10 01:49:13] Rado : I am short, but no idea if I should hold
[2016-07-10 01:49:18] Rado : stop at break even
[2016-07-10 01:49:32] jung1 : same
[2016-07-10 01:49:34] Rado : but might be better to take the profit and run
[2016-07-10 01:49:45] Rado : no direction
[2016-07-10 01:49:45] jung1 : I made some pingpong
[2016-07-10 01:49:55] jung1 : but meh
[2016-07-10 01:50:18] Rado : yeah
[2016-07-10 01:50:44] jung1 : https://github.com/carlos8f/zenbot
[2016-07-10 01:51:00] jung1 : trading bot for GDAX
[2016-07-10 01:51:27] jung1 : okcoin 15y drop
[2016-07-10 01:51:38] jung1 : I will hold my short for a while
[2016-07-10 01:52:07] Rado : 15y drop?
[2016-07-10 01:53:43] Rado : https://zenbot.s8f.org/
[2016-07-10 01:53:54] Rado : I don't get what the numbers mean
[2016-07-10 01:53:56] Rado : do you?
[2016-07-10 01:54:02] jung1 : cny
[2016-07-10 01:55:16] Rado : dropping more now
[2016-07-10 01:55:28] Rado : big spread
[2016-07-10 01:55:35] Rado : almost $2
[2016-07-10 01:55:35] jung1 : which ones?
[2016-07-10 01:55:43] Rado : Swap
[2016-07-10 01:56:12] jung1 : which numbers
[2016-07-10 01:56:19] Rado : oh
[2016-07-10 01:56:24] Rado : on this URL
[2016-07-10 01:56:25] Rado : https://zenbot.s8f.org/
[2016-07-10 01:56:31] Rado : that is the live bot
[2016-07-10 01:56:36] Rado : you gave me
[2016-07-10 01:57:08] jung1 : its trades of this bot
[2016-07-10 01:57:10] jung1 : price
[2016-07-10 01:57:12] jung1 : diff
[2016-07-10 01:59:43] miramm1115 : judging by the numbers, the bot loses about $100 per day
[2016-07-10 02:00:35] miramm1115 : but it trades kinda random
[2016-07-10 02:01:15] miramm1115 : hard to say anything because the guy doesn't post numbers that matter
[2016-07-10 02:01:55] Rado : that's why I was confused miramm1115
[2016-07-10 02:02:11] Rado : I am working on a BTC bot now
[2016-07-10 02:02:39] miramm1115 : cool, we need more bots here, 275 is a very low number :wink:
[2016-07-10 02:02:43] Rado : since my ETH bot is running fine now and making profit
[2016-07-10 02:02:49] Rado : lol
[2016-07-10 02:02:49] rapidtrades : Rado: python?
[2016-07-10 02:02:57] Rado : coffe script
[2016-07-10 02:03:08] rapidtrades : never heard of it
[2016-07-10 02:03:09] Rado : I am not making one for BitMEX yet
[2016-07-10 02:03:13] Rado : I will do that after
[2016-07-10 02:03:19] rapidtrades : after what
[2016-07-10 02:03:39] Rado : after I finish the one for cryptotrader
[2016-07-10 02:03:48] rapidtrades : k
[2016-07-10 02:04:49] Rado : cmon fall to 636 already
[2016-07-10 02:04:54] Rado : so I can cover
[2016-07-10 02:05:26] rapidtrades : cover what
[2016-07-10 02:05:38] Rado : I shorted XBTUSD
[2016-07-10 02:05:40] Rado : 653
[2016-07-10 02:05:56] Rado : but I am greedy
[2016-07-10 02:05:57] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-10 02:08:24] jung1 : could fall
[2016-07-10 02:08:53] Rado : it could
[2016-07-10 02:09:19] Rado : rapidtrades was thinking it will fall bellow 600
[2016-07-10 02:09:29] Rado : I am not really sure
[2016-07-10 02:09:34] rapidtrades : here he is, mr. Valliant buyer himself http://www.reuters.com/article/us-swiss-snb-idUSKCN0ZP0VF
[2016-07-10 02:10:01] rapidtrades : Valeant*
[2016-07-10 02:10:15] rapidtrades : lol $23...
[2016-07-10 02:10:27] rapidtrades : man so many ppl tried to catch this knife its hilarious
[2016-07-10 02:11:37] Rado : what did he buy?
[2016-07-10 02:11:55] Rado : pund?
[2016-07-10 02:11:57] rapidtrades : Valeant
[2016-07-10 02:12:01] rapidtrades : the stock
[2016-07-10 02:12:02] Rado : oh
[2016-07-10 02:14:03] boolander : yeah, just wait fort he GPIF to report their stock losses conveniently after elections...Japanese pensioners gonna be sucking a lot of wind thru teeth on that one
[2016-07-10 02:15:57] boolander : https://realvisiontv.com/landing/crazy
[2016-07-10 02:16:04] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/LdL3RXvq-BTC-smells-bearish/
[2016-07-10 02:16:08] boolander : all i see are hockey sticks
[2016-07-10 02:16:10] Rado : I like this chart
[2016-07-10 02:16:22] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/eMPVO5wf-BTCUSD-is-developing-a-Bearish-Pattern/
[2016-07-10 02:16:27] Rado : this one even better
[2016-07-10 02:16:34] jung1 : couse you are short
[2016-07-10 02:16:56] jung1 : yeah saw that also
[2016-07-10 02:16:57] jung1 : agree
[2016-07-10 02:17:15] jung1 : 50$ drop would be cool
[2016-07-10 02:17:38] rapidtrades : boolander: lossses on what? Valeant ?
[2016-07-10 02:19:50] rapidtrades : finex lending rates for BTC back to normal
[2016-07-10 02:20:16] boolander : central banks(BoJ) encouraged the pension fund to diversify into riskier assets(stocks) and got destroyed in the process.
[2016-07-10 02:20:25] rapidtrades : ahahahhaha
[2016-07-10 02:20:52] rapidtrades : i remember that but not sure if they enacted the policy or just encouraged them
[2016-07-10 02:20:59] boolander : they have delayed reporting performance ahead of elections to not rattle the populace
[2016-07-10 02:21:20] rapidtrades : that should lead to more yen gains right
[2016-07-10 02:22:03] jung1 : Rado: be ready with your eth bot for 14th july
[2016-07-10 02:22:13] boolander : mrs watanabe will continue to stuff her mattress with JPY if she fears further losses on her pension
[2016-07-10 02:22:40] boolander : isn't the bernanke in japan this weekend too?
[2016-07-10 02:22:46] boolander : meeting kuroda
[2016-07-10 02:22:52] boolander : central bank fuknutz
[2016-07-10 02:23:04] rapidtrades : yeah its a bit scary
[2016-07-10 02:23:11] rapidtrades : being long that shit currency
[2016-07-10 02:23:16] boolander : i'm long JPY from negative rate decision
[2016-07-10 02:23:26] boolander : as the "belief" system clearly broke down
[2016-07-10 02:23:46] rapidtrades : same here...but from lower
[2016-07-10 02:23:48] boolander : memba he used to debase currency and get nice spike in the nky? well, them days are gone
[2016-07-10 02:24:05] rapidtrades : idk helicopter money could change that
[2016-07-10 02:24:35] rapidtrades : ultimately this should result in the total destruction of the yen....once all that debt blows up
[2016-07-10 02:24:42] rapidtrades : eventually :)
[2016-07-10 02:24:52] boolander : yeup
[2016-07-10 02:25:16] rapidtrades : did u notice them selling the yen on friday?
[2016-07-10 02:25:38] boolander : if you watch grant williams video above he does a great profile on japan for context. i mean, we kinda already know it, but who doesn't like need j-curve graphs?
[2016-07-10 02:25:52] boolander : *neat
[2016-07-10 02:26:05] boolander : friday = did not
[2016-07-10 02:26:08] boolander : did u?
[2016-07-10 02:26:09] rapidtrades : what video
[2016-07-10 02:26:22] rapidtrades : yeah looks like they defended 100
[2016-07-10 02:26:22] boolander : https://realvisiontv.com/landing/crazy
[2016-07-10 02:27:08] rapidtrades : bit worried about the elections this weekedn
[2016-07-10 02:27:33] boolander : yeah, but, we love volatility. ;-)
[2016-07-10 02:28:07] rapidtrades : not if ur already in proft :)
[2016-07-10 02:29:34] rapidtrades : ok catch u later peeps
[2016-07-10 02:29:37] boolander : +gamma
[2016-07-10 02:29:53] boolander : peace out geeeeze
[2016-07-10 02:30:28] rapidtrades : the elections were saturday right
[2016-07-10 02:30:38] rapidtrades : so we should be getting results pre-market
[2016-07-10 02:31:22] rapidtrades : nvm bloomberg says sunday
[2016-07-10 02:32:03] rapidtrades : ok bbl
[2016-07-10 02:36:24] jung1 : let it fall guys
[2016-07-10 02:58:01] zanza : moon happen yet ?
[2016-07-10 03:06:29] jung1 : in '13
[2016-07-10 03:08:27] jung1 : will see what china gonna do
[2016-07-10 03:18:41] migz : Is that a bear flag? O_O
[2016-07-10 03:21:56] jung1 : could be
[2016-07-10 03:30:09] jung1 : or not
[2016-07-10 04:43:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 2000 @ 64835.0
[2016-07-10 05:53:33] jung1 : Okcoin api freezed?
[2016-07-10 06:08:56] Jj4REAL : break in 3
[2016-07-10 06:11:18] Jj4REAL : 2
[2016-07-10 06:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 642.72
[2016-07-10 06:33:26] aethlios : new feature? liquidation orders in red??
[2016-07-10 06:57:27] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: Yes we now highlight them in the order book
[2016-07-10 06:57:55] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: that's useful.
[2016-07-10 06:59:29] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: you could add a place to watch all pending liquidation orders, like okcoin futures have. So we can know how bad it is....
[2016-07-10 07:23:16] fineregex : BitMEX_Wally: +1 @aethlios
[2016-07-10 07:48:03] wann : hi im new to bitcoin ,can anyone help me
[2016-07-10 07:59:13] Kra : No
[2016-07-10 07:59:28] Kra : llol just kidding
[2016-07-10 08:12:10] zanza : yes wann
[2016-07-10 08:12:23] zanza : make sure to click 50x in your order
[2016-07-10 08:41:56] RoftheN : Littered cigarette butts, almost 5 trillion littered annually, may be an important source of metal contaminants leaching into the marine environment and potentially entering the food chain, suggests new research. AKA BUY BITCOIN
[2016-07-10 09:38:13] laisee : buy bitcoin and save the WHALES
[2016-07-10 11:20:39] fineregex : laisee: eh?
[2016-07-10 11:43:19] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-07-10 11:54:33] ax : boring sideways day?
[2016-07-10 13:55:06] Mrceaser : All quiet on the Western front?
[2016-07-10 14:06:52] fineregex : ax: watchout
[2016-07-10 14:18:46] lockhedge : Pound sterling becomes more unstable than Bitcoin following Brexit http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-pound-sterling-bitcoin-prices-unstable-volatile-exchange-referendum-a7129311.html
[2016-07-10 14:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15600 @ 638.58
[2016-07-10 14:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 32 @ 638.12
[2016-07-10 14:33:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 637.44 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-10 14:34:17] ax : its happening
[2016-07-10 14:34:30] Roevenger : not really
[2016-07-10 14:34:39] aethlios : http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/housing-index
[2016-07-10 14:35:40] aethlios : London prices have increased much higher, a bubble in real estate could bust in UK and many banks with bad loans in EU.
[2016-07-10 14:38:33] aethlios : Also rates manipulation fron ECB, cheap euro, create huge bubbles in Germany now.
[2016-07-10 14:42:27] Rado : how is it possible when someone sells at Bitfinex all other exchanges follow? Bots?
[2016-07-10 14:44:23] Rado : ETH funding rate 0.74%
[2016-07-10 14:46:13] lockhedge : Rado: as most liquid BTC/USD exchange Bitfinex has high impact on the overall market
[2016-07-10 14:46:47] Rado : It will be the same with any exchange
[2016-07-10 14:47:03] Rado : I just gave an example
[2016-07-10 14:47:23] Rado : if the sell off happen on GDAX other will follow
[2016-07-10 14:47:37] Rado : i think it's bots
[2016-07-10 14:48:15] lockhedge : yes it's bots, almost 100% of market making is done by bots
[2016-07-10 14:49:38] lockhedge : my mm bot uses a reference price index similar to the Kaiko/BitMEX index, so about 50% weighting of Bitfinex
[2016-07-10 14:50:00] Rado : Cool
[2016-07-10 14:50:02] fineregex : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETHXBT im selling lotz of ETH below mark price
[2016-07-10 14:50:41] Rado : finergex are you long spot?
[2016-07-10 14:50:57] fineregex : im long but need my margin
[2016-07-10 14:50:59] fineregex : so i close some
[2016-07-10 14:51:29] Rado : I am long in Kraken
[2016-07-10 14:51:53] Rado : thinking of sorting here to make the funding rate later
[2016-07-10 14:53:02] fineregex : eww
[2016-07-10 14:54:10] fineregex : yay, who ate my 1234 order?
[2016-07-10 14:54:34] fineregex : i was long since 0.02 :)
[2016-07-10 14:54:57] fineregex : but funding reduced entry price
[2016-07-10 14:56:09] fineregex : guess a bot ate it because mark price slightly increased
[2016-07-10 14:57:42] fineregex : Rado: are you Cream-White-Ox?
[2016-07-10 14:57:57] fineregex : or Daisy-Coconut-Shaker?
[2016-07-10 15:06:27] Rado : no fineregex
[2016-07-10 15:06:31] Rado : I wish :-)
[2016-07-10 15:06:48] fineregex : Rado: still not :(?
[2016-07-10 15:07:02] Rado : yeah
[2016-07-10 15:07:13] Rado : later this year maybe I will be on there
[2016-07-10 15:07:15] Rado : he he
[2016-07-10 15:07:22] fineregex : i think you are Daisy Coconout though
[2016-07-10 15:08:32] Rado : Are these percentages based on the amount you trade or your whole account?
[2016-07-10 15:08:45] fineregex : whole account i guess
[2016-07-10 15:09:07] Rado : then I will not show up there anytime soon
[2016-07-10 15:09:20] Rado : I trade only 10% of my balance
[2016-07-10 15:09:25] fineregex : but could be someone who already emptied 10 accounts with 0.01 btc before
[2016-07-10 15:09:35] fineregex : until it worked once
[2016-07-10 15:09:40] Rado : lol
[2016-07-10 15:09:42] Rado : yeah
[2016-07-10 15:13:17] Rado : I hate the 2 contracts bids on XBTU16
[2016-07-10 15:13:32] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: can we make the minimum order 100?
[2016-07-10 15:14:05] fineregex : still very long on eth :(
[2016-07-10 15:14:26] fineregex : i think i shouldnt need to pay it because i entered near 0.02 already
[2016-07-10 15:14:28] fineregex : :D
[2016-07-10 15:14:37] Rado : ha ha
[2016-07-10 15:14:41] fineregex : i have 3268 litecoin contracts LONG because of funding rate
[2016-07-10 15:14:50] fineregex : open interest 10000
[2016-07-10 15:15:16] fineregex : it was -0.25% most of the time since one week
[2016-07-10 15:15:24] fineregex : already wondered who is so sure to short
[2016-07-10 15:16:21] fineregex : just now back to +0.00..%
[2016-07-10 15:17:50] fineregex : it would infact befair/work out i guess
[2016-07-10 15:18:04] Rado : for some reason I hate LTC
[2016-07-10 15:18:08] fineregex : if you would need to pay
[2016-07-10 15:18:23] fineregex : funding rate devided by number of weeks you position is old
[2016-07-10 15:18:23] Rado : I don't believe it will succeed in any way
[2016-07-10 15:18:27] fineregex : or so
[2016-07-10 15:18:32] Rado : it might be just my stupid opinion
[2016-07-10 15:19:16] fineregex : but you know anything bad about it?
[2016-07-10 15:19:20] fineregex : or just boring?
[2016-07-10 15:19:30] fineregex : next to bitcoin
[2016-07-10 15:19:45] fineregex : while others sell new pardigms
[2016-07-10 15:19:55] ggwp : looking like a short
[2016-07-10 15:19:59] fineregex : *paradigms
[2016-07-10 15:20:09] fineregex : ggwp: who? bitcoin?
[2016-07-10 15:20:51] ggwp : yeah
[2016-07-10 15:20:53] Rado : fineregex: I follow only a few crypto currencies
[2016-07-10 15:21:07] Rado : the one that have some real applications in the real world
[2016-07-10 15:21:14] Rado : I don't see what you can use LTC for
[2016-07-10 15:21:49] ggwp : wat's the sentiment here?
[2016-07-10 15:22:12] fineregex : yes, LTC is just a swap contract to ease BTC waves
[2016-07-10 15:22:25] fineregex : ;)
[2016-07-10 15:22:54] fineregex : ggwp: where you the one who asked that too around 25 hours ago?
[2016-07-10 15:23:08] ggwp : might have been yeah
[2016-07-10 15:23:11] fineregex : [2016-07-09 16:19:02] ggwp : what's the sentiment? [2016-07-09 16:21:10] fineregex : i think there are slightly more people who get impatient in 1 hour, than those who think bitcoin may stay exactly at $650 [2016-07-09 16:21:43] fineregex : who knows
[2016-07-10 15:23:29] ggwp : oh, didn't see the reply
[2016-07-10 15:24:32] fineregex : once i finished typing i realized that what i meant just happend already
[2016-07-10 15:24:42] ggwp : :D
[2016-07-10 15:24:51] fineregex : (drop from 660 to 630)
[2016-07-10 15:25:21] ggwp : anyone using the new xbj swat?
[2016-07-10 15:25:25] ggwp : swap
[2016-07-10 15:25:26] fineregex : and didnt close my maximum size bitcoin long which was what i came here for
[2016-07-10 15:25:28] fineregex : :D
[2016-07-10 15:26:18] ggwp : happens :/
[2016-07-10 15:26:52] Rado : ggwp: why would you use it?
[2016-07-10 15:27:05] Rado : XBTUSD has 100x more volume
[2016-07-10 15:27:08] rapidtrades : wait did longs get charged
[2016-07-10 15:27:16] ggwp : to play around with the lev
[2016-07-10 15:27:20] Rado : I think BitMEX is making a mistake betting on the Japanese market
[2016-07-10 15:27:27] ggwp : Rado: why?
[2016-07-10 15:27:38] ggwp : it's an emerging one for btc
[2016-07-10 15:27:40] fineregex : volume is 25 time bigger than open interest
[2016-07-10 15:27:41] fineregex : :D
[2016-07-10 15:27:55] ggwp : should have been a while ago
[2016-07-10 15:28:03] ggwp : with japan an tech shit
[2016-07-10 15:28:04] Rado : obviously their customers are trading XBTUSD
[2016-07-10 15:28:12] Rado : why force them to trade XBJ?
[2016-07-10 15:28:27] Rado : they think Japanese will come and trade, but there is no proof of tht
[2016-07-10 15:28:41] Rado : just because they made a deal with an exchange doesn't mean it will work
[2016-07-10 15:29:09] Rado : companies make this mistakes all the time
[2016-07-10 15:29:29] Rado : they try to predict customer behaviour instead of follow what is actually happening
[2016-07-10 15:29:39] ggwp : I think it's a good bet
[2016-07-10 15:29:46] rapidtrades : japs don't have the gambol
[2016-07-10 15:29:51] Rado : right now 80-90% of their revenue comes from XBTUSD
[2016-07-10 15:29:58] ggwp : preticting > following?
[2016-07-10 15:30:00] Rado : you must be insane to remove this contract
[2016-07-10 15:30:19] fineregex : i hope bitmex will add commodities :(
[2016-07-10 15:30:27] fineregex : nickel is hot
[2016-07-10 15:30:39] rapidtrades : wait is xbtusd getting removed?
[2016-07-10 15:30:40] Rado : fineregex: that will be great, but it's too early
[2016-07-10 15:31:06] Rado : rapidtrades: they said they will use the XBJ and display it in USD so we can trade the same way
[2016-07-10 15:31:11] BitMEX_Sam : We have never made any announcement or indication that XBTUSD would be removed in favor of XBJ
[2016-07-10 15:31:19] BitMEX_Sam : That certainly would not happen.
[2016-07-10 15:31:20] ggwp : *predicting
[2016-07-10 15:31:26] rapidtrades : ^^^
[2016-07-10 15:31:30] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: will you add nickel please?
[2016-07-10 15:31:43] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: someone said XBJ will be displayed in USD
[2016-07-10 15:31:45] BitMEX_Sam : XBJ is a collaboration with Quoine that we may be expanding out to other partners. It is live on their website as well, the first-ever shared market on major Bitcoin exchanges
[2016-07-10 15:31:48] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: i can be a marketmaker then to kepe up volume
[2016-07-10 15:32:02] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Yes, the idea is that we will make XBJ more tradable for our normal customers by simply switching the display currency
[2016-07-10 15:32:23] BitMEX_Sam : Since it is a daily future, not a swap, we can lock in a daily exchange rate that will be used for convenience
[2016-07-10 15:32:29] Rado : I assumed that means XBTUSD will be retired
[2016-07-10 15:32:34] Rado : my mistake if that is not true
[2016-07-10 15:32:44] BitMEX_Sam : Not at all true. :)
[2016-07-10 15:32:49] Rado : cool
[2016-07-10 15:33:12] BitMEX_Sam : XBJ24H essentially *is* our old XBT24H contract, just with a different quote currency.
[2016-07-10 15:33:28] Rado : right
[2016-07-10 15:33:48] BitMEX_Sam : We've had users request that XBT24H come back, and we hear that - but rather than have two very similar markets split liquidity, we can make XBJ24H behave like XBT24H for users who want that sort of thing
[2016-07-10 15:34:47] Rado : that makes sense
[2016-07-10 15:35:10] Rado : I guess users hate the funding rate :-)
[2016-07-10 15:35:19] Rado : I personally don't mind it
[2016-07-10 15:35:41] Rado : if you make profitable trades it will even out in the long run
[2016-07-10 15:36:37] BitMEX_Sam : It's better in a lot of ways. Basis swings on longer-dated contracts can cause wild liquidations
[2016-07-10 15:36:57] BitMEX_Sam : But I understand that it is unfamiliar and can make certain strategies difficult
[2016-07-10 15:39:10] Rado : there is a place for both type of contarcts
[2016-07-10 15:40:05] Rado : I like XBTU16 for a few days trade
[2016-07-10 15:40:15] Rado : but only use XBTUSD for day trading
[2016-07-10 15:40:48] Rado : looks like LSK might be breaking out of a recent range
[2016-07-10 15:41:19] rapidtrades : bitcoin miners face fight for survival - reuters
[2016-07-10 15:41:37] Rado : who reads reuters anyway?
[2016-07-10 15:41:47] rapidtrades : are u srs
[2016-07-10 15:41:51] Rado : lol
[2016-07-10 15:42:01] Rado : I hate mainstream media
[2016-07-10 15:42:06] rapidtrades : k
[2016-07-10 15:42:12] Rado : they always have agendas
[2016-07-10 15:42:27] Rado : you should not believe anything on there
[2016-07-10 15:43:01] Rado : let me give you the exact opposite view from independat source
[2016-07-10 15:43:02] rapidtrades : k...
[2016-07-10 15:44:50] rapidtrades : the network is 43,000 times 'more powerful' then the worlds top 500 supercomputers
[2016-07-10 15:45:02] Rado : https://twitter.com/Robtichenor/status/752137134358798336
[2016-07-10 15:45:15] Rado : that is cool rapidtrades
[2016-07-10 15:45:36] rapidtrades : most of it is run on ASICs tho, so can u rly say its more powerful
[2016-07-10 15:45:39] fineregex : rapidtrades: but only in doing one single silly task while they are universal computers
[2016-07-10 15:45:47] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-07-10 15:45:50] BitMEX_Sam : The supercomputer analogy is pretty disingenuous
[2016-07-10 15:46:17] Rado : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4s4lii/why_did_the_halving_not_affect_the_hash_rate/
[2016-07-10 15:46:27] Rado : but the network could be used for anything
[2016-07-10 15:46:35] Rado : that is what ETH and LSK are doing
[2016-07-10 15:46:44] rapidtrades : yeah the supercomputer comparisons made sense when we were running graphics card
[2016-07-10 15:46:47] Rado : we will build application on top of the network
[2016-07-10 15:48:07] rapidtrades : how does shether compare
[2016-07-10 15:49:31] rapidtrades : streng says that it costs him $200 in electricity per bitcoin
[2016-07-10 15:49:47] rapidtrades : so now $400
[2016-07-10 15:49:59] rapidtrades : he's the guy in iceland
[2016-07-10 15:50:04] fineregex : http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/62800/is-it-possible-to-use-bitcoin-miners-to-decrypt-files-communication
[2016-07-10 15:51:10] fineregex : streng: huhu, where are you?
[2016-07-10 15:51:46] fineregex : he mines in a datacenter , office, or home?
[2016-07-10 15:52:11] rapidtrades : lol imagine is iceland got hit by a major earthquake and all that supply is gone
[2016-07-10 15:54:27] fineregex : what happens to old miners that arent efficient enough anymore?
[2016-07-10 15:54:45] rapidtrades : gone
[2016-07-10 15:54:55] fineregex : to trash/recycling?
[2016-07-10 15:55:06] rapidtrades : trash i guess
[2016-07-10 15:55:24] rapidtrades : they're useless for anything else i reckon
[2016-07-10 15:56:10] fineregex : i want them :(
[2016-07-10 15:56:55] fineregex : i can build a windmill
[2016-07-10 15:57:18] fineregex : out of pieces of wood maybe
[2016-07-10 15:57:55] fineregex : art
[2016-07-10 15:58:54] fineregex : some people in poor countries have free power at home
[2016-07-10 16:00:35] fineregex : ^^ :D
[2016-07-10 16:07:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4500 @ 649.46
[2016-07-10 16:07:28] Rado : no short liquidations yet?
[2016-07-10 16:07:41] Rado : he he
[2016-07-10 16:07:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 649.91 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-10 16:08:14] Roevenger : what happened, satoshi revealed himself?
[2016-07-10 16:08:49] Rado : volume not that big
[2016-07-10 16:09:00] Rado : so normal trading I think
[2016-07-10 16:09:27] Roevenger : "normal"
[2016-07-10 16:11:20] Rado : yeah
[2016-07-10 16:11:26] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-10 17:08:08] ggwp : time?
[2016-07-10 17:27:08] Jovis : 650ish has sure been a magnet these last couple of weeks. it'll be interesting to see in which direction it pops 100 dollars first.
[2016-07-10 17:28:23] fineregex : none
[2016-07-10 17:28:35] rapidtrades : guys sup
[2016-07-10 17:28:35] fineregex : the correct bitcoin price is
[2016-07-10 17:28:37] fineregex : $654.321
[2016-07-10 17:29:59] fineregex : ;)
[2016-07-10 17:30:58] mrp1nk : lets have a bitmex sentiment about this question @Jovis
[2016-07-10 17:32:39] mrp1nk : my hope is that the shorts get squeezed first before we go down
[2016-07-10 17:35:06] Roevenger : agreed, we had 3 big squeezes in the last 24h
[2016-07-10 17:35:20] Roevenger : must stop soon enough
[2016-07-10 17:38:44] rapidtrades : it's remarkable that all these banking problems in euro are not sinking the currency
[2016-07-10 17:41:02] Kra : DIOPORCO
[2016-07-10 17:42:44] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-09/charting-epic-collapse-worlds-most-systemically-dangerous-bank
[2016-07-10 17:43:34] rapidtrades : -47.97% YTD
[2016-07-10 17:44:02] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-10/eu-banks-need-166-billion-deutsche-bank-economist-tells-welt
[2016-07-10 17:44:07] rapidtrades : LOL ^^^
[2016-07-10 17:44:16] rapidtrades : more like we need 166 bil
[2016-07-10 17:44:48] rapidtrades : don't worry they'll just print some more....what's 166b among friend
[2016-07-10 17:45:07] rapidtrades : s
[2016-07-10 17:45:50] laisee : QE11 on the way
[2016-07-10 17:47:44] Roevenger : bmex market is quite bullish
[2016-07-10 17:48:57] rapidtrades : famous last words lol
[2016-07-10 17:49:29] Roevenger : whhat I meant was that a little no volume increse made people buy here
[2016-07-10 17:56:07] macios15 : 620 spike today i think
[2016-07-10 18:01:51] rapidtrades : its very spikey to the downside today
[2016-07-10 18:02:56] lockhedge : itBit has a higher 24h volume than Bitfinex
[2016-07-10 18:03:21] rapidtrades : sept barely at $110 premium
[2016-07-10 18:05:27] laisee : market is lost without a meme
[2016-07-10 18:09:22] rapidtrades : big wall on finex at 643
[2016-07-10 18:16:02] Rado : I also noticed itBit volumes increased a lot
[2016-07-10 18:16:14] Rado : where is itBit located
[2016-07-10 18:19:19] macios15 : sb is defending longs lol
[2016-07-10 18:22:35] Rado : Sb?
[2016-07-10 18:24:47] laisee : Rado: started in Singapore, moved base to NY
[2016-07-10 18:25:15] Rado : Why eould anyone move to the US?
[2016-07-10 18:25:17] Rado : lol
[2016-07-10 18:25:32] laisee : because market
[2016-07-10 18:26:04] Rado : ?
[2016-07-10 18:28:53] laisee : USA has moar peoples than Singapore
[2016-07-10 18:29:22] Adura : Less whippings, too.
[2016-07-10 18:29:50] laisee : Adura: try some tagging and see what happens here
[2016-07-10 18:29:51] Rado : Since when you need to be in the country to trade on an exchange?
[2016-07-10 18:30:19] Rado : bitMex is not in the US or Europe, but most traders here are
[2016-07-10 18:30:55] laisee : Rado: USian regulators are a problem. to wrry about
[2016-07-10 18:31:15] Rado : I know
[2016-07-10 18:31:18] Rado : they suck
[2016-07-10 18:31:26] Rado : i will never live there
[2016-07-10 18:31:57] Rado : people are renouncing US citizenship in higher numbers than ever
[2016-07-10 18:32:02] laisee : so ... everyone has to be careful to avoid them, or embrace if you have $$$$ for ;awyers and former regulators
[2016-07-10 18:32:52] Rado : But this doesn't make sense in today's reality with Internet and crypto
[2016-07-10 18:32:55] lockhedge : itBit's target group is institutional BTC/USD traders , so being regulated as trust in NY makes sense for them
[2016-07-10 18:32:59] Rado : let's say I live in the US
[2016-07-10 18:34:15] laisee : Rado: thats what the onine poker guys thought ....
[2016-07-10 18:34:37] laisee : lockhedge: exactly
[2016-07-10 18:34:39] Rado : I know
[2016-07-10 18:34:47] Rado : I understand
[2016-07-10 18:34:57] Rado : i am just saying probably me should revolt
[2016-07-10 18:35:03] Rado : people
[2016-07-10 18:35:12] Rado : should revolt
[2016-07-10 18:35:21] laisee : people are revolting?
[2016-07-10 18:35:21] Rado : damn mobile keyboard
[2016-07-10 18:35:27] Rado : they should
[2016-07-10 18:35:53] Rado : ee should not be pussies and conform to everything government wants
[2016-07-10 18:36:06] Rado : that's why things are getting really bad
[2016-07-10 18:36:11] Rado : anyeay
[2016-07-10 18:36:24] Rado : I will stop
[2016-07-10 18:36:42] laisee : Rado: gree. people should do what they want with their own funds.
[2016-07-10 18:36:58] Rado : Exactly
[2016-07-10 18:38:42] laisee : and I have worked fr Wall St banks ... US regulators are not protecting anything good or essential for economy.
[2016-07-10 18:38:57] Rado : Pope Francis Calls For Worldwide Communist Government #Communism #Catholic dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/1…
[2016-07-10 18:39:40] laisee : Rado: Catholic church worried about property market since Brexit?
[2016-07-10 18:40:08] laisee : the pope is exposed ...
[2016-07-10 19:05:22] justinlooking : praise be to low rates
[2016-07-10 19:12:29] yerb : does anyone know, are stops triggered on mark price or bitmex price
[2016-07-10 19:15:27] rapidtrades : mark i think but there's a check mark
[2016-07-10 19:15:43] rapidtrades : 'mark price trigger'
[2016-07-10 19:15:58] rapidtrades : so without it default should be orderbook?
[2016-07-10 19:17:18] yerb : rapidtrades: hmm, i saw it right now, it was triggered on bitmex price, but i wasnt in position, i just wanted it to market buy when but it was "rejected", wtf?
[2016-07-10 19:19:10] yerb : so i guess stop triggers get rejected if you are not already in position, is this right?
[2016-07-10 19:19:24] rapidtrades : no clue i rarely use pending orders...support?#
[2016-07-10 19:21:06] justinlooking : did u tick close on trigger?
[2016-07-10 19:29:38] Rado : yerb you should be able to open a position with a stop order
[2016-07-10 19:29:42] Rado : i have done it
[2016-07-10 19:48:17] migz : Hmmm $2 spread.
[2016-07-10 19:48:42] justinlooking : houb's huobing
[2016-07-10 19:48:46] Rado : Yeah, not much movement
[2016-07-10 19:53:32] migz : buy my short *_*
[2016-07-10 19:54:55] Rado : Let's see if 650 is broken this time
[2016-07-10 19:55:52] mrp1nk : shorting here with tight stop
[2016-07-10 19:57:33] migz : any chance that the head and shoulder is broken?
[2016-07-10 19:58:18] jung1 : Rado: on what % you put stop order?
[2016-07-10 20:02:15] Rado : I don't use a specific %
[2016-07-10 20:02:23] Rado : it depends
[2016-07-10 20:02:41] Rado : for example I started a long at 645
[2016-07-10 20:02:55] Rado : my stop was 635
[2016-07-10 20:03:12] Rado : now moved it all the way to break even at 645
[2016-07-10 20:05:03] jung1 : https://tradeblock.com/markets/itbt/xbt-usd/15m/ itbit overtake Bitfinex in 24h volume
[2016-07-10 20:05:25] jung1 : they do not have levarage
[2016-07-10 20:05:53] Rado : Wow
[2016-07-10 20:06:11] Rado : I guess it is these institutional investors
[2016-07-10 20:06:34] Rado : they trade bigger volume than shmucks like us
[2016-07-10 20:06:55] jung1 : yes
[2016-07-10 20:06:57] jung1 : USD balances are FDIC insured
[2016-07-10 20:07:02] jung1 : for us customers
[2016-07-10 20:07:04] jung1 : only