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[2016-07-09 10:19:13] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Yes, but it is still visible under Contract Details in the sidebar
[2016-07-09 10:19:19] BitMEX_Wally : `24H Volume: 7,628.4346 XBT`
[2016-07-09 10:22:34] ggwp : ah, thanks
[2016-07-09 10:41:58] Johnster : You guys on TradingView yet? (XBTUSD)
[2016-07-09 10:45:41] GreedyGoblin : BitMEX_Wally: Instead of just introducing 100x for XBTUSD swap I would rather like to see one swap with max leverage of 5x and another high risk swap with 10x to 100x
[2016-07-09 10:45:53] GreedyGoblin : not a big fan of DPE
[2016-07-09 10:48:43] wotan : will i get my DPE back after a week or never or it depends on what?
[2016-07-09 10:49:13] GreedyGoblin : its gone
[2016-07-09 10:49:22] wotan : dpe is gone?
[2016-07-09 10:50:27] wotan : im confused from this dpe
[2016-07-09 10:57:10] BitMEX_Wally : There was an unfilled liquidation order that caused DPE for 1 rebalance period. Later that the order was filled and there was no more subsequent DPE
[2016-07-09 11:00:12] wotan : all i want to know what will happen to my witheld profit. can i calculate it as gone, or will it get refunded in a week (sorry my english is not the best to fully understand it)
[2016-07-09 11:08:54] fineregex : wotan: it is meant to be paid most of the time and just withheld to make sure, no?.
[2016-07-09 11:18:04] wotan : what? so i will get it back after time or not?
[2016-07-09 11:21:38] BitMEX_Arthur : No any profit taken due to DPE is not returned to you
[2016-07-09 11:26:37] wotan : ok thanks for answer
[2016-07-09 11:31:11] NukeLaloosh : 6 hrs to halving
[2016-07-09 11:49:57] macios15 : you could not even imagine the dump that is coming guys
[2016-07-09 12:04:41] Mrceaser : Please can somebody explain for instance how my wallet balance is lets say .0675 while my withdrawable balance is 0.176 I am in a long trade which I initially opened but the system is showing me a margin that is far above the margin I started with?
[2016-07-09 12:05:43] Mrceaser : In essence what could cause my margin to almost double on an open position?
[2016-07-09 12:29:33] turtlefight : Will it be the great dumpening?
[2016-07-09 12:29:59] turtlefight : 5h15 approx left until that stupid halvening
[2016-07-09 12:35:22] 79548453 : How come proposed funding rate goes further negative (xbtusd) when both sides not hitting impacting price, and finex usd lending rate is higher than btc?
[2016-07-09 12:56:18] fineregex : Mrceaser: all profits are added to the margin, i dont know why
[2016-07-09 12:56:58] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally, BitMEX_Arthur: XBTU16 basis needs an adjustment
[2016-07-09 12:57:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, your profit is added to the margin assigned to a position. If it weren't, the price could go in your favor, move a little bit back & you'd be liquidated.
[2016-07-09 12:57:30] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it miramm1115
[2016-07-09 12:58:30] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: yet it is not possible to remove any margin when profitable
[2016-07-09 12:58:42] fineregex : i mean manually
[2016-07-09 12:58:42] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it is.
[2016-07-09 12:58:47] BitMEX_Sam : Just reset your leverage.
[2016-07-09 12:59:10] Mrceaser : Problem is the system now opens a new position at a higher level than the stated entry price. if you are realising profits why not just close the position.
[2016-07-09 12:59:50] BitMEX_Sam : I doubt users would like it if we just closed their positions daily on a perpetual contract.
[2016-07-09 12:59:56] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: it will stay below 25x/maximum by as much as the unrealized profit
[2016-07-09 13:00:00] BitMEX_Sam : The PNL moving from unrealised to realised is just accounting. Your PNL is the same.
[2016-07-09 13:00:17] BitMEX_Sam : fineregex: No, it will not, move the slider back and forth and watch how much margin is assigned
[2016-07-09 13:01:18] Mrceaser : @BitMex_Sam so what happens if I close the current position at par with my entry price?
[2016-07-09 13:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : As in, your original entry price, or the rebalance price?
[2016-07-09 13:01:53] Mrceaser : despite the calculator showing me a negative unrealised PNL
[2016-07-09 13:02:12] BitMEX_Wally : If you entered at x, rebalanced at y, and exit at z then your pnl is z-x
[2016-07-09 13:02:12] Mrceaser : Original entry price
[2016-07-09 13:02:25] BitMEX_Wally : But you have y-x via the first rebalance, and then z-y when you close
[2016-07-09 13:02:28] BitMEX_Wally : SO it all adds up the same
[2016-07-09 13:04:20] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: i tried to go back 33x for the 30sep future when it had both huge unrealized realized and realized profit, but it didnt allow me to move the liquidation price any closer to lock in any profit
[2016-07-09 13:04:44] fineregex : but just to keep the initial liqudation price
[2016-07-09 13:05:40] BitMEX_Sam : If you move the leverage selector to any value, it assigns an amount of margin equal to the position value divided by that leverage
[2016-07-09 13:05:54] BitMEX_Sam : So if you moved it to 25x, then back to 33x, you would have `value / 33` margin in the position.
[2016-07-09 13:06:03] BitMEX_Sam : Regardless, use stops, rather than a liquidation price as a stop
[2016-07-09 13:06:06] Mrceaser : so to avoid situations like this we should exit trades before the rebalance period
[2016-07-09 13:06:22] BitMEX_Sam : No, you're misunderstanding rebalances.
[2016-07-09 13:06:41] BitMEX_Sam : Your PNL is the same. It literally moves from one category (unrealised) to another (realised).
[2016-07-09 13:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 630 @ 765.85
[2016-07-09 13:07:05] BitMEX_Sam : All it is doing is locking in your PNL for the day so it is not subject to DPE the next day.
[2016-07-09 13:07:16] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: liqudation price as stopp is better on an empty market:)
[2016-07-09 13:08:31] Mrceaser : It means my new entry price is the rebalance price.?
[2016-07-09 13:09:01] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: but it didnt allow me to lock in any profit as said, i guess otherwise sept30 quanto would be too dangerous for the DPE balance
[2016-07-09 13:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : Mrceaser: No, your entry price for calculating unrealised PNL is the rebalance price
[2016-07-09 13:09:37] BitMEX_Sam : Your original entry price is the same. Your, say, 0.1 XBT of profit simply moved from unrealised to realised, and unrealised was reset to 0
[2016-07-09 13:09:43] BitMEX_Sam : Think of it as your PNL for the day.
[2016-07-09 13:09:50] Mrceaser : Ok
[2016-07-09 13:10:50] Mrceaser : I wish the rebalance price could be made to show on the trading platform.
[2016-07-09 13:15:38] BitMEX_Wally : Mrceaser: It is, just hover over your avg entry price and it will show you
[2016-07-09 13:23:57] miramm1115 : to whoever is shorting sept: thank you but I hope you know what you're doing :wink:
[2016-07-09 13:40:02] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: could you please tell me what hasLiquidity flag indicates?
[2016-07-09 13:55:07] blackwhite : do you see significant sept shorting? the premium is 77%, I don't think it is low enough to buy
[2016-07-09 13:55:59] blackwhite : Bitmex, when will we see long-term yen contracts? I remember there was something about
[2016-07-09 14:14:39] atodorov07 : buy
[2016-07-09 14:35:56] tradewiz : BitMEX_Wally: Hi I have a question. I dont really understand the XBTUSD swap rate. Currently the funding is -0.1237% in 5 hours, which I assume means that anyone long will receive 0.1237% of the contract value in 5 hours. However the current USD flash rate on Bitfinex is 0.05% and for BTC is 0.01% so in theory a long XBTUSD position should be "charged" 0.04%. Currently the mid price between bid and offer is below the mark price, should not then the funding be positive (ie cost to a long holder) and not negative?
[2016-07-09 14:38:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 654.11
[2016-07-09 14:40:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 700 @ 658.08
[2016-07-09 14:40:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 658.09
[2016-07-09 14:43:40] fineregex : tradewiz: this market is virtual and has low liquidity. The rates just balance out disbalanced demand / supply
[2016-07-09 14:44:06] fineregex : you can earn something providing liquidity
[2016-07-09 14:44:54] tradewiz : fineregex: not sure I agree on low liquidity, its traded 7000 btc today...
[2016-07-09 14:45:07] fineregex : did you?
[2016-07-09 14:45:23] fineregex : oh yes
[2016-07-09 14:45:33] fineregex : but eveyone uses leverag
[2016-07-09 14:45:47] fineregex : you can do opposite deals here and at bitfinex
[2016-07-09 14:45:53] fineregex : every 8 hours
[2016-07-09 14:46:17] fineregex : so the rates move a little closer
[2016-07-09 14:47:18] fineregex : i mean the market has few 'liquidity providers' / 'market makers'
[2016-07-09 14:47:26] justinlooking : 14 blocks until halving!
[2016-07-09 14:47:29] fineregex : but everyone who wants can try
[2016-07-09 14:52:44] BitMEX_Sam : tradewiz: The funding rate is set 8 hours before it is charged. See https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding
[2016-07-09 14:53:01] BitMEX_Sam : This gives the market some time to react to each rate and normalize.
[2016-07-09 14:54:22] BuzzLightYear : Guys~ if you know someone at NASA please call them let them fix the f**king launch tower? It is not stable... http://www.thehalvening.com/#1
[2016-07-09 14:54:57] ggwp : you're the guy Buzz
[2016-07-09 14:57:44] BuzzLightYear : ggwp: haha ;)
[2016-07-09 14:57:57] aethlios : in what block the halvening occurs?
[2016-07-09 14:58:06] justinlooking : blaze it thousand
[2016-07-09 14:59:14] tradewiz : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for that. I understand the funding rate side of it, but its the calculation of the premium index I dont really understand. I notice that it just now sparked up to a positive number after having been negative for the last hours. I understand one needs some sort of adjustment for premium or discount to spot on the swap but not sure this is the best solution. If you had been short the swap since 1 July you would have had to pay 0.43% up until now, while lending out USD/BTC would have given you around 0.36% positive carry.
[2016-07-09 14:59:28] tradewiz : BitMEX_Sam: or am I misunderstanding something
[2016-07-09 15:00:12] BitMEX_Sam : It's meant to bring the swap in line with spot, which it does well. Think of it as paying daily basis on a long-dated future.
[2016-07-09 15:00:32] BitMEX_Sam : When it's trading normally, longs will lose a small amount every day due to basis, but basis also swings when the market moves.
[2016-07-09 15:11:40] wotan : how long it takes to withdraw xbt to my btc wallet?
[2016-07-09 15:13:07] migz : 20hours from now.
[2016-07-09 15:13:16] justinlooking : 12!
[2016-07-09 15:14:19] wotan : okay thanks for info
[2016-07-09 15:28:27] justinlooking : 11!
[2016-07-09 15:28:54] odieoh : Bitmex Sam, how does the mark price on XBTU16 swing so wildly? Yesterday when the spot price was pretty much the same as now, the mark price was over 800. Now it is significantly lower than that
[2016-07-09 15:34:31] justinlooking : odieoh: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-07-09 15:35:01] justinlooking : yesterday it was trading a bit at 800, today it traded a bit at < 740
[2016-07-09 15:37:59] justinlooking : 10!!!!!1!!
[2016-07-09 15:44:13] wow such volatility : lol
[2016-07-09 15:44:51] wotan : closer and closer this is historic event
[2016-07-09 15:45:19] mrp1nk : is rapidtrades still hanging around here?
[2016-07-09 15:48:06] MrJ1m : illiquid market be illiquid. gotta be careful @odieoh
[2016-07-09 15:48:41] odieoh : @mrj1m yar
[2016-07-09 15:49:50] wow such volatility : it's like watching paint dry
[2016-07-09 15:50:18] ggwp : for four years
[2016-07-09 15:50:37] ggwp : now we gonna have to apply the third coat
[2016-07-09 15:51:33] wow such volatility : exciting
[2016-07-09 16:01:09] justinlooking : fomo nudges loaded onto exchanges. pity my stophunter bot doesn't work yet, guess i have 4 years to to work on it now...
[2016-07-09 16:10:50] NukeLaloosh : 1 hour...
[2016-07-09 16:11:09] justinlooking : 50 mins :P
[2016-07-09 16:19:02] ggwp : what's the sentiment?
[2016-07-09 16:21:10] fineregex : i think there are slightly more people who get impatient in 1 hour, than those who think bitcoin may stay exactly at $650
[2016-07-09 16:21:43] fineregex : who knows
[2016-07-09 16:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9000 @ 648.28
[2016-07-09 16:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1300 @ 647.71
[2016-07-09 16:22:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 3 @ 754.47 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-09 16:22:41] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-07-09 16:22:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 138483 @ 641.54 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 100 @ 746.89
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 550 @ 746.90
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 @ 639.69
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 639.21
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 638.34
[2016-07-09 16:23:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 638.81
[2016-07-09 16:23:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12000 @ 636.91
[2016-07-09 16:23:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1000 @ 65045.0
[2016-07-09 16:23:30] wotan : wow
[2016-07-09 16:23:34] luckynuke : lo
[2016-07-09 16:23:46] fineregex : so it may run again now / soon
[2016-07-09 16:23:58] fineregex : but afterwards consolidate
[2016-07-09 16:24:11] Jj4REAL : 616?
[2016-07-09 16:24:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 635.58
[2016-07-09 16:24:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 111562 @ 633.82 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-09 16:24:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 50 @ 740.74
[2016-07-09 16:24:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5380 @ 631.65
[2016-07-09 16:24:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 10 @ 738.64
[2016-07-09 16:24:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 630.83
[2016-07-09 16:24:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5 @ 631.21
[2016-07-09 16:24:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 97956 @ 629.39 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-09 16:24:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 629.53 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-09 16:24:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 625.48
[2016-07-09 16:24:55] Jj4REAL : 5%
[2016-07-09 16:25:38] wotan : nice shakeout
[2016-07-09 16:26:24] migz : thanks stop loss XD
[2016-07-09 16:26:25] ax : aaaand i sold the bottom. lovely
[2016-07-09 16:26:35] justinlooking : :(
[2016-07-09 16:26:44] ax : why did i even open up a long 5 minutes ahgo
[2016-07-09 16:26:55] ax : so greedy
[2016-07-09 16:26:57] migz : rebound!
[2016-07-09 16:27:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 3000 @ 63211.0
[2016-07-09 16:27:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1500 @ 63094.0
[2016-07-09 16:27:45] wotan : ax yes hard to predict this
[2016-07-09 16:28:09] justinlooking : $5 fakeout then $40 dump, classic bitcoin...
[2016-07-09 16:28:30] Jj4REAL : it was at the top of the range..
[2016-07-09 16:28:36] Jj4REAL : now its at the bottom
[2016-07-09 16:28:52] ax : bitcoinwisdom is down?
[2016-07-09 16:29:12] Jj4REAL : fine for me
[2016-07-09 16:30:52] aethlios : big battle and position exchanges will happen, miners going off line will sell to investors
[2016-07-09 16:31:48] justinlooking : ax yeh issues here
[2016-07-09 16:32:05] wotan : ax down for me too
[2016-07-09 16:32:48] justinlooking : isee very interestig 1 min candles on finex cw
[2016-07-09 16:33:15] johndoe : try https://cryptowat.ch/bitfinex/btcusd
[2016-07-09 16:33:19] wotan : cryptowat.ch working good
[2016-07-09 16:33:21] johndoe : wisdom is down for me too
[2016-07-09 16:33:42] ax : cryptowatch error 500
[2016-07-09 16:33:53] ax : ah it works now
[2016-07-09 16:34:09] rapidtrades : why the dumpling guys
[2016-07-09 16:34:25] ax : because they had to shake me out
[2016-07-09 16:34:26] null : omg this liquidation
[2016-07-09 16:34:34] null : cmon eat it up
[2016-07-09 16:34:38] null : dont want another dpe
[2016-07-09 16:34:47] aethlios : rapidtrades: the fed kills btc
[2016-07-09 16:36:46] wotan : i smell abig green candle lets see
[2016-07-09 16:37:06] Hawtdawg : fuck crypto trading
[2016-07-09 16:37:21] mikeh : why is the cost double all of a sudden
[2016-07-09 16:37:38] mikeh : oh crap my leverage, nm
[2016-07-09 16:37:42] wotan : more down really?
[2016-07-09 16:37:57] Hawtdawg : fcuk
[2016-07-09 16:38:22] Hawtdawg : escalator up and elevator down
[2016-07-09 16:38:24] ax : how do i get rekt every damn time i go long. never trust long in crypto
[2016-07-09 16:40:05] johndoe : wow someone ate the 270417 in one bite
[2016-07-09 16:40:10] wotan : ax damn i know what you mean
[2016-07-09 16:41:55] Skitrx : any alternatives to bitcoinwisdom?
[2016-07-09 16:42:21] Hawtdawg : ax: i feel you bro,,,
[2016-07-09 16:42:26] ggwp : nice shakeout - rocket time
[2016-07-09 16:42:51] justinlooking : tradeblock and cryptowat.ch
[2016-07-09 16:43:08] wotan : Skitrx cryptowat.ch
[2016-07-09 16:43:25] Skitrx : thanks
[2016-07-09 16:43:40] Skitrx : server error lol
[2016-07-09 16:43:47] ax : refresh a few times
[2016-07-09 16:44:26] migz : stop loss *_* http://bitcointicker.co/
[2016-07-09 16:44:34] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJdID7feU8E
[2016-07-09 16:44:34] billz : 8 mins till halvening
[2016-07-09 16:45:13] migz : ddos attacks on most ticker sites?
[2016-07-09 16:45:24] migz : or servers can't handle traffic? lol
[2016-07-09 16:45:49] ax : now watch this last block take 40 minutes
[2016-07-09 16:46:06] wotan : migz saw that too
[2016-07-09 16:46:19] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/400-million-year-researcher-argues-bitcoin-mining-worth-cost/
[2016-07-09 16:46:21] justinlooking : lol
[2016-07-09 16:46:52] BitMEX_Wally : We've seen an attack based DDOS for a while: https://blog.bitmex.com/use-two-factor-authentication-and-dont-reuse-passwords/
[2016-07-09 16:47:31] odieoh : its done!
[2016-07-09 16:47:41] ax : 2 blocks right away
[2016-07-09 16:48:04] odieoh : now, bitcoin, arise from the ashes!
[2016-07-09 16:48:37] migz : what is this, massive orchestrated dump?
[2016-07-09 16:48:38] wotan : are we done with block420k?
[2016-07-09 16:48:45] migz : houbi up.
[2016-07-09 16:48:46] odieoh : yar
[2016-07-09 16:48:54] wotan : woooow happy halfing all:)
[2016-07-09 16:49:25] ax : halfing? the reward is 16.66 and it was 25
[2016-07-09 16:49:30] billz : and were falling
[2016-07-09 16:49:31] ax : such a phony event
[2016-07-09 16:49:41] odieoh : At least according to the site I'm watching with a rocketship going to the moon. Pretty sure it's the authoritative source for infoi
[2016-07-09 16:50:50] rapidtrades : cmon guys let's crash to i can fill my shorts and play some games
[2016-07-09 16:51:26] migz : These chinese attacks, why not pump instead of dump? lol
[2016-07-09 16:51:41] ax : china says up
[2016-07-09 16:52:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2750 @ 638.40
[2016-07-09 16:52:38] rapidtrades : loooool
[2016-07-09 16:52:50] rapidtrades : wtf is going on
[2016-07-09 16:53:07] migz : bounce =P
[2016-07-09 16:53:13] ggwp : predictable shakeout and pump
[2016-07-09 16:53:19] rapidtrades : man ppl are jumpy on this holy day
[2016-07-09 16:53:31] ggwp : by the way - welcome back @rapidtrades
[2016-07-09 16:53:34] rapidtrades : pump aint happening
[2016-07-09 16:53:58] rapidtrades : we could stabilize tho....that was a sharp bounce
[2016-07-09 16:54:11] boolander : erryone happy with their outcomes?
[2016-07-09 16:54:24] ax : well i doubled down on my long and recovered my dump loss already so theres that
[2016-07-09 16:55:03] Rado : When is the first
[2016-07-09 16:55:06] wotan : nice to hear ax
[2016-07-09 16:55:28] Rado : When is the first block after halving?
[2016-07-09 16:55:42] rapidtrades : prolly happened
[2016-07-09 16:55:44] rapidtrades : so what
[2016-07-09 16:55:50] ax : they mined two blocks in one minute, so it happened already
[2016-07-09 16:56:18] Rado : So it's a none event
[2016-07-09 16:56:24] rapidtrades : dump could've been just a dumb noob...or pump
[2016-07-09 16:56:24] boolander : how is our spotting relative? are we ok?
[2016-07-09 16:56:35] rapidtrades : anyway one side just massively overreacted
[2016-07-09 16:56:38] aethlios : can we watch the hash rate live??
[2016-07-09 16:56:44] rapidtrades : NO
[2016-07-09 16:56:47] turtlefight : everybody gettin rekt lo
[2016-07-09 16:56:56] boolander : everytthing is planned
[2016-07-09 16:57:12] rapidtrades : i don't think 600 will hold
[2016-07-09 16:57:25] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000002cce816c0ab2c5c269cb081896b7dcb34b8422d6b74ffa1
[2016-07-09 16:57:33] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: i don't either
[2016-07-09 16:57:43] ggwp : nah
[2016-07-09 16:57:53] rapidtrades : maybe we'll find a long term floor around 500-550
[2016-07-09 16:57:54] ggwp : only noobs
[2016-07-09 16:57:58] boolander : i feel like i've been hit with a siedwinder
[2016-07-09 16:58:02] ggwp : rapidtrades: +1
[2016-07-09 16:58:22] boolander : dizzy
[2016-07-09 16:58:39] ax : we're still within the gravitational field of 666
[2016-07-09 16:58:41] rapidtrades : boolander: why
[2016-07-09 16:59:03] boolander : anyone got some tunes to get us thru the halving?
[2016-07-09 16:59:34] boolander : whip-sawed
[2016-07-09 16:59:40] turtlefight : The Purple Dandies - Don't lose it all
[2016-07-09 16:59:45] rapidtrades : boolander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_ndy61ON4
[2016-07-09 16:59:56] ggwp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6xvpzqCUA very fitting
[2016-07-09 17:00:01] ggwp : boolander:
[2016-07-09 17:00:19] migz : shit, i can only watch it thru winkdex. lol
[2016-07-09 17:00:33] turtlefight : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ZedHgLYwA
[2016-07-09 17:00:47] boolander : poifect
[2016-07-09 17:00:53] boolander : thanks lads!
[2016-07-09 17:01:24] ggwp : boolander: admit you like mine the most
[2016-07-09 17:02:43] smiller57hk : ggwp: very fitting indeed
[2016-07-09 17:03:08] ax : recovering to 666 it seems
[2016-07-09 17:03:12] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: could you please increase my API rate limit a bit? Looks like I can't quote 6 per side on XBTU16, hitting the limit
[2016-07-09 17:03:48] rapidtrades : sept cratered...now only $100 premium
[2016-07-09 17:04:53] boolander : inspiration all around. what now??
[2016-07-09 17:05:45] rapidtrades : i'm preparing for months of chop chop now
[2016-07-09 17:06:05] rapidtrades : maybe i'll trade eth lol
[2016-07-09 17:06:09] ggwp : rapidtrades: months?
[2016-07-09 17:06:22] rapidtrades : yeah until year end
[2016-07-09 17:06:32] rapidtrades : it's been a hell of a year from october
[2016-07-09 17:06:33] lockhedge : anyone knows a site with near real-time hashrate stats?
[2016-07-09 17:06:46] NukeLaloosh : sam, wally—fills panel not looking right
[2016-07-09 17:06:53] rapidtrades : could be much longer then that tho....we'll see
[2016-07-09 17:08:09] boolander : halving done...now what?
[2016-07-09 17:08:21] Skitrx : now either huge pump or dump :O
[2016-07-09 17:08:28] Skitrx : or both
[2016-07-09 17:08:37] rapidtrades : or a boring range :)
[2016-07-09 17:08:43] Skitrx : or a boring range
[2016-07-09 17:09:25] rapidtrades : the only thing that can save us now is much weaker yuan
[2016-07-09 17:09:27] ggwp : sideways till christmas
[2016-07-09 17:09:45] blackwhite : rapidtrades: what do you mean by chop chop?
[2016-07-09 17:09:52] rapidtrades : whipsaws
[2016-07-09 17:09:56] boolander : weaker cny on the cards
[2016-07-09 17:10:10] boolander : halvening done
[2016-07-09 17:10:15] boolander : what now?
[2016-07-09 17:10:30] BitMEX_Sam : miramm1115: You're set
[2016-07-09 17:10:36] ggwp : mewn
[2016-07-09 17:10:51] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks a lot, what's the limit now?
[2016-07-09 17:10:54] migz : nothing =))
[2016-07-09 17:10:59] rapidtrades : miramm1115: 7
[2016-07-09 17:11:07] migz : uptrend resumes *_*
[2016-07-09 17:11:26] boolander : who are our new uptrenders?
[2016-07-09 17:11:30] blackwhite : rapid, does it mean that hedging has little sense if we will be in a range?
[2016-07-09 17:11:43] BitMEX_Sam : miramm1115: You have an email
[2016-07-09 17:11:51] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: :+1:
[2016-07-09 17:12:18] rapidtrades : blackwhite: i plan to trade same as always...so will hedge or go long/short if the charts say so
[2016-07-09 17:12:40] rapidtrades : range is just my opinion and i don't trade my opinions :)
[2016-07-09 17:13:02] blackwhite : thank you for your opinion!
[2016-07-09 17:13:10] blackwhite : do you trade some indicators?
[2016-07-09 17:13:31] rapidtrades : that's how markets move usually...trends followed by longer ranges
[2016-07-09 17:14:06] rapidtrades : preparing myself to give back some of the profits :)
[2016-07-09 17:15:10] Skitrx : ooh
[2016-07-09 17:15:18] Skitrx : people are saying the hashrate is still the same
[2016-07-09 17:16:04] rapidtrades : why wouldn't it be the same....miners knew about halving for months
[2016-07-09 17:18:29] migz : Good thing i safrom 610 - 660 =) Rebought at 630. Lets go 700!
[2016-07-09 17:18:49] Skitrx : i think we will see 600 before 700
[2016-07-09 17:20:00] rapidtrades : if litecoin halving is any guide, first we go down then we go back up
[2016-07-09 17:21:25] rapidtrades : over the course of several months
[2016-07-09 17:22:42] rapidtrades : also right after ltc halved bitcoin started its pump, so that data is a bit crooked toward the end :)
[2016-07-09 17:25:13] Skitrx : 1m bitfinex chart
[2016-07-09 17:25:14] Skitrx : http://i.imgur.com/SwjXgj7.jpg
[2016-07-09 17:25:39] RoftheN : Happy Halving
[2016-07-09 17:29:06] migz : 610 floor, 660 tops. 630 floor, 700 tops. 650 floor, 730 tops. Waves.
[2016-07-09 17:32:12] Skitrx : possible 1m triangle on finex
[2016-07-09 17:35:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 633.27
[2016-07-09 18:25:24] zanza : looks like we are in a downward channel now
[2016-07-09 18:27:22] zanza : hash rate hasn't really dropped much
[2016-07-09 18:27:43] zanza : I'm surprised at that, it just because twice as expensive to mine bitcoin
[2016-07-09 18:28:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2 @ 639.93 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-09 18:42:19] RoftheN : If hashrate didn't drop, then that's good. Miners suddenly will have less profit, unless the price go up. And they might want to influence the price by trading/buying below a certain price
[2016-07-09 18:42:24] BTCDJS : Remember that old nokia game called Snake? this is the modern version with a twist. I can't stop playing it. slither.io
[2016-07-09 18:42:31] RoftheN : Heard of it
[2016-07-09 18:42:35] BTCDJS : www.slither.io
[2016-07-09 18:43:01] BTCDJS : https://www.slither.io
[2016-07-09 18:43:38] BTCDJS : I've been on it all day. my brain is fried
[2016-07-09 18:43:59] ggwp : BTCDJS: welcome back
[2016-07-09 18:44:09] Roevenger : you need help @BTCDJS
[2016-07-09 18:44:40] BTCDJS : I know. Its such a pointless game
[2016-07-09 18:44:48] BTCDJS : but I can't help it
[2016-07-09 18:44:59] BTCDJS : ggwp: welcome back yourself
[2016-07-09 18:46:35] ggwp : played it for about half an hour, all I could stand with the touchpad
[2016-07-09 18:47:21] BTCDJS : ggwp: you use the arrows too
[2016-07-09 18:47:37] ggwp : lemme check
[2016-07-09 18:47:40] BTCDJS : left and right. and up for boost
[2016-07-09 18:47:53] RoftheN : How do you shoot?
[2016-07-09 18:49:13] ggwp : yeah..
[2016-07-09 18:49:20] ggwp : would've been easier
[2016-07-09 18:49:29] ggwp : bit of a waste of time though
[2016-07-09 18:49:58] BTCDJS : ggwp: fucking tell me about it. But why can't I leave it alone?
[2016-07-09 18:50:45] BTCDJS : OCD
[2016-07-09 18:50:54] ggwp : might be
[2016-07-09 18:51:01] BTCDJS : addictive personality
[2016-07-09 18:51:13] BTCDJS : boredom
[2016-07-09 18:51:22] BTCDJS : fucked if I know
[2016-07-09 18:51:37] BTCDJS : too busy playing to think about it
[2016-07-09 18:51:39] ggwp : are you really a roofer?
[2016-07-09 18:51:44] BTCDJS : yeah
[2016-07-09 18:52:06] BTCDJS : roofer/site manager/surveyor
[2016-07-09 18:52:28] ggwp : nice! gotta have papers for all three right?
[2016-07-09 18:52:44] BTCDJS : not the surveying part
[2016-07-09 18:53:23] ggwp : ncees?
[2016-07-09 18:53:39] BTCDJS : anybody who knows what their talking about in their field of work can survey for work to be done
[2016-07-09 18:53:45] BTCDJS : /
[2016-07-09 18:53:49] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-07-09 18:53:54] BTCDJS : whats that?
[2016-07-09 18:54:06] ggwp : oh thats us nvmd
[2016-07-09 18:54:23] ggwp : nonetheless, very practical jobs
[2016-07-09 18:55:10] BTCDJS : you come to short or long?
[2016-07-09 18:55:14] ggwp : I thought you meant land surveyin
[2016-07-09 18:55:20] ggwp : long
[2016-07-09 18:55:33] BTCDJS : where you long from?
[2016-07-09 18:55:46] ggwp : low 64ks
[2016-07-09 18:55:53] BTCDJS : I have an order to be filled at 604
[2016-07-09 18:56:19] BTCDJS : hope it drops that low before moon
[2016-07-09 18:56:31] ggwp : did you place it before halving dump or after?
[2016-07-09 18:56:53] ggwp : wishful thinking imo :/
[2016-07-09 18:56:54] BTCDJS : i placed it before the dump from 660
[2016-07-09 18:57:15] ggwp : too many filthy bottom pickers
[2016-07-09 18:57:43] ggwp : but I'm only scalping anyway
[2016-07-09 18:57:48] BTCDJS : 635?
[2016-07-09 18:58:03] ggwp : no idea where this is gonna go mid-term
[2016-07-09 18:58:09] ggwp : 635 what?
[2016-07-09 18:59:03] BTCDJS : fuck it Ill take my chances. If it doesn't hit 604 today Ill just see what it does tomorrow
[2016-07-09 18:59:24] BTCDJS : ggwp: 635 low before up
[2016-07-09 18:59:47] ggwp : already hit that
[2016-07-09 18:59:55] ggwp : ascending triangle now
[2016-07-09 19:00:03] ggwp : should break up nicely
[2016-07-09 19:00:15] ggwp : I'm tping 660s
[2016-07-09 19:00:30] ggwp : alright gotta go
[2016-07-09 19:00:34] ggwp : cya dude
[2016-07-09 19:00:49] BTCDJS : bye
[2016-07-09 19:07:51] aethlios : okcoin futures in a discount to index, so presure still persists
[2016-07-09 19:09:36] macios15 : finex dump
[2016-07-09 19:12:01] migz : Gotta wait for the press release of news website that the halvening happened, FOMO waiting to happen *_*
[2016-07-09 19:26:21] aa : http://carbonvote.com/
[2016-07-09 19:26:25] aa : 27%
[2016-07-09 19:28:50] rapidtrades : aethlios: that's a large discount
[2016-07-09 19:30:09] rapidtrades : its mostly due to okc erroneous exchange rate...actual index is around 640
[2016-07-09 19:31:08] rapidtrades : it's around $1.5-2 once u factor the rate
[2016-07-09 19:40:06] fineregex : migz: why for that so what?
[2016-07-09 19:41:14] migz : You know, people don't wanna miss this big opportunity, normal people don't really trade much. They only want "diversified investment"
[2016-07-09 19:42:52] fineregex : migz: why would press and fomo after the halving be beging than before the halving
[2016-07-09 19:43:01] fineregex : *be bigger
[2016-07-09 19:43:39] migz : Human psychology. Brexit, stocks falling, World War 3, etc etc. lels
[2016-07-09 19:46:04] rapidtrades : ^can u believe this guy
[2016-07-09 19:46:15] rapidtrades : u forgot zika and super aids
[2016-07-09 19:46:40] rapidtrades : and fukushima radiation turning everyone into zombies
[2016-07-09 19:47:36] Adura : Don't forget the Negrocolpyse.
[2016-07-09 19:51:02] migz : hahaha
[2016-07-09 19:53:47] rapidtrades : dam is sleger piling back into sept?
[2016-07-09 19:53:56] rapidtrades : premium down to $90
[2016-07-09 19:54:07] mrp1nk : is he back?
[2016-07-09 19:54:18] rapidtrades : idk
[2016-07-09 19:54:54] rapidtrades : there's barely any bids until $700
[2016-07-09 19:55:04] rapidtrades : first real wall at 691
[2016-07-09 19:56:21] rapidtrades : and smone moved it 700 just now lol
[2016-07-09 19:56:48] rapidtrades : or put a new one
[2016-07-09 20:09:28] luckynuke : ok i´ll end trading trolls. bb
[2016-07-09 20:10:58] jung1 : hello
[2016-07-09 20:11:08] ggwp : witam
[2016-07-09 20:12:11] jung1 : załapałeś sie na shorta?
[2016-07-09 20:12:26] ggwp : niestety nie
[2016-07-09 20:12:50] jung1 : obstawiam na frop przy 650
[2016-07-09 20:12:53] jung1 : drop
[2016-07-09 20:13:05] ggwp : nie przed?
[2016-07-09 20:13:35] ggwp : nawet z tad juz moze zaczac spadac
[2016-07-09 20:13:41] ggwp : wyglada slabo
[2016-07-09 20:13:57] ggwp : mam longa obecnie ale powoli zamykam
[2016-07-09 20:14:36] ggwp : kiedyś trza spać, nie?
[2016-07-09 20:15:06] jung1 : w sumie halving śmiga
[2016-07-09 20:15:13] jung1 : są pierwsze potwierdzenia
[2016-07-09 20:15:25] ggwp : no właśnie
[2016-07-09 20:15:26] jung1 : zobaczymy jak chiny wstaną
[2016-07-09 20:15:43] ggwp : ja myśle że sideways
[2016-07-09 20:15:50] ggwp : przez jakiś czas
[2016-07-09 20:16:16] jung1 : drop był 15min przed halvingiem
[2016-07-09 20:16:48] jung1 : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort finex jest na longu
[2016-07-09 20:16:55] ggwp : 4 block
[2016-07-09 20:17:07] ggwp : chiński zabobon
[2016-07-09 20:17:12] ggwp : przesąd
[2016-07-09 20:17:43] ggwp : szkoda że nie posłuchałem intuicji
[2016-07-09 20:19:01] jung1 : http://coremedia.info/index.php/blockchain-news/item/272-mycelium-and-waves-platform-announce-shared-roadmap
[2016-07-09 20:20:24] ggwp : tak, ciekawe
[2016-07-09 20:20:28] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_mmnxt
[2016-07-09 20:20:31] jung1 : nice
[2016-07-09 20:22:30] ggwp : dobra ja lece, miłego trejdingu
[2016-07-09 20:22:54] jung1 : narazie
[2016-07-09 20:30:23] zanza : bitcoin keeps getting smacked down
[2016-07-09 20:31:05] zanza : Finex longs are decreasing
[2016-07-09 20:31:15] zanza : could we see a long squeeze coming up?
[2016-07-09 20:32:06] jung1 : hard to say
[2016-07-09 20:36:47] jung1 : dao +15%
[2016-07-09 20:36:48] jung1 : wtf
[2016-07-09 20:40:40] jung1 : zanza: 4200 is possible
[2016-07-09 20:46:22] rapidtrades : can u group orders when u buy from amazon so u don't pay the base shipping fee multiple times
[2016-07-09 20:46:57] rapidtrades : or is it just luck whoever they group them
[2016-07-09 20:50:50] jung1 : dunno
[2016-07-09 20:50:54] jung1 : some moves on huobi
[2016-07-09 20:51:02] jung1 : okocoin
[2016-07-09 20:51:05] jung1 : huobi
[2016-07-09 20:51:26] jung1 : where is censorship
[2016-07-09 20:51:38] rapidtrades : okcoin
[2016-07-09 20:51:42] rapidtrades : huobi
[2016-07-09 20:51:53] rapidtrades : houbi
[2016-07-09 20:51:59] rapidtrades : hubio
[2016-07-09 20:52:16] rapidtrades : dam
[2016-07-09 20:53:13] jung1 : you are long rapid?
[2016-07-09 20:54:16] rapidtrades : yeah still have that small long
[2016-07-09 20:54:43] jung1 : looks weak
[2016-07-09 20:56:14] jung1 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/eMPVO5wf-BTCUSD-is-developing-a-Bearish-Pattern/
[2016-07-09 21:01:43] migz : jung1: Thanks
[2016-07-09 21:08:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1100 @ 645.51
[2016-07-09 21:14:24] Kra : Hi
[2016-07-09 21:14:46] Kra : maybe I still need to understand how this birmex works
[2016-07-09 21:15:29] Kra : But why I'm in at 639 and with a PNL of -0.1?
[2016-07-09 21:19:45] jung1 : look at mark price
[2016-07-09 21:28:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 615 @ 647.00
[2016-07-09 21:30:31] rapidtrades : well this was a weir afternoon amirite fellas
[2016-07-09 21:31:12] writlarge : urrite
[2016-07-09 21:33:02] rapidtrades : send ur complaints at da@jews.com
[2016-07-09 21:33:22] Roevenger : short squeeze apparently?
[2016-07-09 21:38:39] jung1 : on finex there is 40% more shorts than 30min ago
[2016-07-09 21:39:34] Roevenger : the volume is really misleading, that's the game to take out weak hands
[2016-07-09 21:41:29] Rado : 650 resistance now
[2016-07-09 21:42:09] ax : theres no such thing as 650 resistance, 666 has enormous gravitational pull
[2016-07-09 21:42:38] jung1 : devils number
[2016-07-09 21:44:45] jung1 : so you guys are long?
[2016-07-09 21:45:04] RoftheN : Yes
[2016-07-09 21:45:46] Kra : Yep
[2016-07-09 21:46:13] Kra : already made 80% on long from 639
[2016-07-09 21:46:22] Kra : in 2 days
[2016-07-09 21:47:02] jung1 : nice
[2016-07-09 21:48:13] ax : I suggest we keep doing this bounce 666-620 every day for the next week
[2016-07-09 21:48:16] ax : easy money
[2016-07-09 21:48:56] RoftheN : Hmm
[2016-07-09 21:48:59] RoftheN : good idea
[2016-07-09 21:49:02] RoftheN : But then who loses money?
[2016-07-09 21:49:03] jung1 : im in
[2016-07-09 21:49:24] jung1 : new investors
[2016-07-09 21:49:37] RoftheN : Hmm okay
[2016-07-09 21:49:43] ax : the weak hands who fear breakouts
[2016-07-09 21:49:49] ax : and then fomo
[2016-07-09 21:57:44] rullwull : my bot says it will stop rising around 4-5 am UTC) closing longs right