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[2016-07-08 16:59:00] jung1 : and why
[2016-07-08 17:02:02] odieoh : maybe he just wants bitmex to do straight currency trading here. Forex
[2016-07-08 17:10:00] BitMEX_Wally : We are going to add a USD view onto XBJ24H so you can enter orders and view everything in USD at a fixed JPY rate
[2016-07-08 17:13:27] Rado : nice BitMEX_Wally
[2016-07-08 17:13:31] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hello Wally, I think an interesting instrument (and innovative) could be a swap perpetual to btc-gold pair.
[2016-07-08 17:13:38] Rado : please add more long term contracts
[2016-07-08 17:13:59] Rado : we need monthly or quarterly
[2016-07-08 17:14:06] Rado : and at least two of them
[2016-07-08 17:14:16] Rado : not just one like we have with September now
[2016-07-08 17:15:24] 1QaZxSw2 : Rado: swap is very long term
[2016-07-08 17:15:38] Rado : but you pay funding
[2016-07-08 17:15:53] Rado : on quarterly I can be long term long and not worry
[2016-07-08 17:15:59] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, the funding sucks, but on a long term contract you would pay premium
[2016-07-08 17:16:07] Rado : then I can use swap to manage risk
[2016-07-08 17:16:17] Rado : I am fine with premium
[2016-07-08 17:16:23] Rado : that's the point
[2016-07-08 17:16:37] Rado : I can use both to manage my trading appropriately
[2016-07-08 17:16:46] Rado : right now I can only be long or short swap
[2016-07-08 17:16:48] Rado : that's it
[2016-07-08 17:16:51] Rado : not very good
[2016-07-08 17:16:59] 1QaZxSw2 : ah, so you would take opposing positions?
[2016-07-08 17:17:08] Rado : yes
[2016-07-08 17:17:22] 1QaZxSw2 : short swap, long futures
[2016-07-08 17:17:26] rapidtrades : sept still overpriced imo...$150
[2016-07-08 17:17:28] justinlooking : i definitely prefer futures, but very hard to find MMs...
[2016-07-08 17:17:30] odieoh : Is there going to be a December quanto BTC instrument?
[2016-07-08 17:17:31] 1QaZxSw2 : eat the funding on the swap?
[2016-07-08 17:17:35] Rado : I don't want to sell my long term futures even when BTC is overbought
[2016-07-08 17:17:39] Rado : but I can short swap
[2016-07-08 17:18:03] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, the swap ensures you dont have to keep exiting and re-entering
[2016-07-08 17:18:08] odieoh : Rado do you hold long XBTU16 and short the perpetual swap?
[2016-07-08 17:18:11] Rado : yep
[2016-07-08 17:18:12] rapidtrades : nvm that was on mark, actual is around $125
[2016-07-08 17:18:15] 1QaZxSw2 : sort of like covered calls
[2016-07-08 17:18:30] Rado : exactly 1QaZxSw2
[2016-07-08 17:18:37] rapidtrades : Rado: ur long sept and short swap???????????????
[2016-07-08 17:18:48] Rado : not right now rapidtrades
[2016-07-08 17:18:55] Rado : I am only long Sep
[2016-07-08 17:18:55] odieoh : I am
[2016-07-08 17:19:03] rapidtrades : isn't that the opposite of a covered call
[2016-07-08 17:19:05] Rado : but we are talking in theory why we need a long term contract
[2016-07-08 17:19:31] rapidtrades : well not gonna happen
[2016-07-08 17:19:39] rapidtrades : u don't know how bitmex works
[2016-07-08 17:20:00] Rado : well if they want customers they need to listen to them
[2016-07-08 17:20:13] Rado : otherwise there are other compnaies doing similar trading
[2016-07-08 17:20:16] zanza : they do, customers just want mega leverage
[2016-07-08 17:20:24] zanza : and continuous contract
[2016-07-08 17:20:49] jung1 : so basicly4400 here we go
[2016-07-08 17:21:08] odieoh : You can have both (as they currently do)
[2016-07-08 17:21:21] Rado : zanza: that's only a couple of things that we want
[2016-07-08 17:21:24] Rado : there is a lot more
[2016-07-08 17:21:55] zanza : long term contracts all have very low volume
[2016-07-08 17:22:04] QuantFocus : finex at 654
[2016-07-08 17:22:19] odieoh : Yeah. But they do have some volume
[2016-07-08 17:22:19] Rado : I disagree zanza
[2016-07-08 17:22:33] Rado : 24H volume 78 XBT
[2016-07-08 17:22:49] Rado : that is good money
[2016-07-08 17:23:08] Rado : and we assume that customer base will increase in the future
[2016-07-08 17:23:25] Rado : open value is 523 XBT
[2016-07-08 17:24:00] zanza : gigantic slippage for opening position
[2016-07-08 17:24:12] odieoh : if you take market price
[2016-07-08 17:24:25] odieoh : put in an order and wait; they often get filled eventually
[2016-07-08 17:24:46] odieoh : kind of have to buy during a downswing
[2016-07-08 17:24:54] Rado : zanza: let me put it to you this way. I invested 0.3 on the dip to 580 and made 2.5 BTC
[2016-07-08 17:25:01] Rado : did you make that on the swap?
[2016-07-08 17:25:06] Rado : a lot harder to do
[2016-07-08 17:25:22] zanza : 25x leverage and investing should not be used in the same sentence
[2016-07-08 17:25:26] Rado : I want to make money, don't know about you
[2016-07-08 17:25:47] Rado : that's your narrow view
[2016-07-08 17:26:55] blackwhite : > Rado: please add more long term contracts +1
[2016-07-08 17:27:33] zanza : they used to have more , they may discontinue the sept also
[2016-07-08 17:27:41] rapidtrades : zanza: 25x is fine...regular futures have 50x
[2016-07-08 17:28:06] rapidtrades : 10/1 would suffice for bitcoin due to the volatility
[2016-07-08 17:28:20] blackwhite : 1QaZxSw2 : ya, the funding sucks +1
[2016-07-08 17:28:27] rapidtrades : i would be ok with lower lev if it means no clawbacks
[2016-07-08 17:29:22] rapidtrades : also if i may go off on a lil tangent here....its not true that the reason u have to use clawbacks is anonymity
[2016-07-08 17:29:53] justinlooking : who claims that?
[2016-07-08 17:29:56] rapidtrades : because in normal markets in 90% of cases a broker will not come after u for negative balance
[2016-07-08 17:30:15] rapidtrades : justinlooking: when they first started clawbacks that was the excuse used....we can't go after users etc etc
[2016-07-08 17:30:42] rapidtrades : real reason is leverage is just too high for vol and they'll lose business if they lower it
[2016-07-08 17:31:35] Rado : we just nee more people to use BitMEX
[2016-07-08 17:31:41] Rado : but for most it's hard
[2016-07-08 17:32:31] rapidtrades : pretty much unless ur trading millions or run a fund in the US ur not worth the hassle
[2016-07-08 17:33:47] rapidtrades : too much bad press, it wouldn't be worth it even if they got some $$$
[2016-07-08 17:39:48] rapidtrades : they said this will be the most important NFP this year...guess what it did f*Ck all to change rate expectations
[2016-07-08 17:40:04] 1QaZxSw2 : what is NFP
[2016-07-08 17:40:21] rapidtrades : google it....
[2016-07-08 17:41:51] 1QaZxSw2 : non-farm payroll?
[2016-07-08 17:41:52] justinlooking : nfp is so overrated
[2016-07-08 17:42:03] Rado : agreed
[2016-07-08 17:42:05] justinlooking : it's been shit since 2008
[2016-07-08 17:42:23] justinlooking : yes 1Q
[2016-07-08 17:44:45] justinlooking : support: typo on app/preferences . s/placed to deep/placed too deep
[2016-07-08 17:45:06] jung1 : finex hit 3 times 655
[2016-07-08 17:45:20] justinlooking : will break in 15 mins ;)
[2016-07-08 17:45:35] justinlooking : and then sit at 671 for 4 hours
[2016-07-08 17:46:06] jung1 : feel free bitcoin
[2016-07-08 17:46:13] jung1 : do what he said
[2016-07-08 17:46:46] Rado : lol
[2016-07-08 17:47:06] Rado : usually when it doesn't break 3 times it goes down
[2016-07-08 17:48:28] 1QaZxSw2 : if this does not sell off to 648, it should pop-up
[2016-07-08 17:48:48] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess thats like saying it should go down or it will go up
[2016-07-08 17:49:13] 1QaZxSw2 : but basically i think we are going to see relief from this chop
[2016-07-08 17:51:22] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-08 17:51:30] Rado : there is a third option 1QaZxSw2
[2016-07-08 17:51:47] Rado : it can stay in $5 range for a while
[2016-07-08 17:52:40] 1QaZxSw2 : been long since about 625 http://imgur.com/4izVrWY
[2016-07-08 17:52:42] jung1 : yup
[2016-07-08 17:52:47] Rado : since the Euro fell against the dollar Kraken has been keeping constant record price in USD for BTC
[2016-07-08 17:53:02] Rado : at $658 now
[2016-07-08 17:53:38] jung1 : imo china is preparingg for 4400 attack
[2016-07-08 17:53:41] 1QaZxSw2 : i've almost doubled my account, back to where i started before i got rekt on the big drop
[2016-07-08 17:53:53] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny
[2016-07-08 17:53:57] jung1 : 1QaZxSw2: gratz
[2016-07-08 17:54:01] Rado : nice 1QaZxSw2
[2016-07-08 17:54:05] 1QaZxSw2 : thx
[2016-07-08 17:54:09] Rado : don't forget to take profits or set stops
[2016-07-08 17:54:17] 1QaZxSw2 : gotta keep stops when i step away yes
[2016-07-08 17:54:27] 1QaZxSw2 : thats how i got roughy caressed before
[2016-07-08 17:54:30] Rado : even if you are here is good to have stops
[2016-07-08 17:54:51] 1QaZxSw2 : yes i got stops
[2016-07-08 17:54:53] Rado : it's hard to take action manually because of human emotion
[2016-07-08 17:55:40] Rado : here is one thing I don't get about DAO
[2016-07-08 17:56:01] Rado : I understand that ETH price might stay up because they have a good prodyct
[2016-07-08 17:56:03] Rado : product
[2016-07-08 17:56:10] Rado : I don't get why DAO is holding
[2016-07-08 17:56:13] jung1 : yeah
[2016-07-08 17:56:14] jung1 : same
[2016-07-08 17:56:29] Rado : everyone will loose their money, shouldn't DAO go to 0?
[2016-07-08 17:56:44] Rado : what am I missing?
[2016-07-08 17:56:49] jung1 : nothing
[2016-07-08 17:57:01] jung1 : it have to be fake one
[2016-07-08 17:57:34] Rado : I invested 50 ETH and don't really care if I lose them, but will gladly short the DAO if no one will be able to get any money back
[2016-07-08 17:57:56] Rado : it was just lets see what this decentralized organization can do
[2016-07-08 17:58:35] jung1 : I did not touch that
[2016-07-08 17:59:16] migz : decentralized, and they are trying to control the lose. hypocrites.
[2016-07-08 18:02:51] jung1 : but its good that it collapse
[2016-07-08 18:02:57] jung1 : next one will be better
[2016-07-08 18:04:48] 1QaZxSw2 : also people will invest moderately
[2016-07-08 18:04:54] 1QaZxSw2 : $200m is too much sh!t
[2016-07-08 18:05:37] jung1 : most of that coins was from new investors
[2016-07-08 18:05:47] jung1 : from outside of bitcoin ecosystem
[2016-07-08 18:05:48] 1QaZxSw2 : vitalik i what 19? thats too much responsibility for a teenager
[2016-07-08 18:05:59] jung1 : lisk ceo is 24
[2016-07-08 18:06:05] jung1 : max kordek
[2016-07-08 18:06:16] 1QaZxSw2 : shit i should start my own coin
[2016-07-08 18:06:17] jung1 : adapt or die
[2016-07-08 18:06:25] 1QaZxSw2 : am gonna call it titcoin
[2016-07-08 18:06:27] jung1 : yeah now its good time for that
[2016-07-08 18:06:36] jung1 : pornhub makes that
[2016-07-08 18:06:39] jung1 : in '14
[2016-07-08 18:06:43] 1QaZxSw2 : even that is taken?
[2016-07-08 18:07:00] jung1 : yeah and you get reward if you scan real tits
[2016-07-08 18:07:30] 1QaZxSw2 : can i buy "swap" on that?
[2016-07-08 18:07:34] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatx83Gy8kE
[2016-07-08 18:09:25] jung1 : but if you will run some nice dapp or new coin bu ICO
[2016-07-08 18:09:33] jung1 : now is good time for that
[2016-07-08 18:10:31] migz : sell a coin base on idea. You'll rake 100m usd.
[2016-07-08 18:10:48] migz : if you focus on usefulness, you'lthe coin ends up cheap. lol
[2016-07-08 18:11:00] jung1 : yeah
[2016-07-08 18:11:12] migz : like factom, xmr, nxt. lol
[2016-07-08 18:11:51] jung1 : its long term investments
[2016-07-08 18:12:18] rapidtrades : now the japs are defending 100.50
[2016-07-08 18:12:28] jung1 : factom deals with governments
[2016-07-08 18:12:41] jung1 : xmr is already +30%
[2016-07-08 18:12:52] jung1 : even theymos recommend monero
[2016-07-08 18:13:00] jung1 : its really good technology
[2016-07-08 18:14:29] migz : yeah, but wont even reach 100m usd. O_O
[2016-07-08 18:20:08] Kra : Theymos lol
[2016-07-08 18:20:34] Kra : The biggest mob of btc world
[2016-07-08 18:21:48] macios15 : dump incoming
[2016-07-08 18:21:51] macios15 : huobi hacked
[2016-07-08 18:22:15] jung1 : ?
[2016-07-08 18:22:50] macios15 : jung1: troluje
[2016-07-08 18:24:20] jung1 : ale jakis dump delikatny moze byc w suie
[2016-07-08 18:25:25] Roevenger : macios15: source?
[2016-07-08 18:25:55] Nac : In 1 and a half hours withdraws go thru?
[2016-07-08 18:28:53] BitMEX_Greg : Nac: Hi Nac, withdrawals are processed each day at 13:00 UTC
[2016-07-08 18:29:17] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#when-are-bitcoin-withdrawals-processed
[2016-07-08 18:42:51] justinlooking : 2hrs for last 4 blocks, quick, to the FUD mobile!
[2016-07-08 18:50:35] lockhedge : BitMEX is the 3rd largest BTC/USD market today. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets XBTUSD will probably become the largest market when DPE risk gets significantly lower
[2016-07-08 18:51:51] pgpenc : WTF!!!! why isn't the trigger price included in the order history?
[2016-07-08 18:56:05] jung1 : ]ALL HAIL BITMEX
[2016-07-08 18:56:17] BitMEX_Wally : Not enough space for all the columns
[2016-07-08 18:56:51] pgpenc : Your f'ing joking right?
[2016-07-08 18:56:59] jung1 : 4400 here we go
[2016-07-08 18:57:36] pgpenc : we need this info so that we can sanitise wrong trades!!!!
[2016-07-08 18:58:42] BitMEX_Wally : Recently executed stop orders are in the Stops tab
[2016-07-08 18:59:02] BitMEX_Wally : The stop price on your recently executed stop order was 651.50
[2016-07-08 18:59:15] Nac : BitMEX_Wally: so how long are my profits locked for?
[2016-07-08 18:59:20] pgpenc : Had this weird order error the other day. Seemed to say that I couldn't open a market short at a trigger price since I didn't have any long positions opened.
[2016-07-08 18:59:59] pgpenc : please don't tell me I need open long positions to open a market short at a tigger price?
[2016-07-08 19:00:05] 1QaZxSw2 : are you sure you werent trying to set a stop
[2016-07-08 19:00:24] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: You don't need a long position to open a short, nor do you need a long position to place a sell stop
[2016-07-08 19:00:56] BitMEX_Wally : Nac: The swap contracts are rebalanced every day at 13:00 UTC and profits are unlocked then
[2016-07-08 19:00:57] pgpenc : that's what I figured!
[2016-07-08 19:01:20] 1QaZxSw2 : the UI is a bit different, now its a highlighted tab
[2016-07-08 19:01:22] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: Let me check the logs
[2016-07-08 19:01:41] Nac : BitMEX_Wally: so my withdraw at 13:00:01 won't go through?
[2016-07-08 19:02:41] BitMEX_Wally : Nac: Sorry, I meant rebalance is at 12:00 UTC
[2016-07-08 19:02:52] BitMEX_Wally : Then you can submit a withdraw request and they are processed at 13:00 UTC
[2016-07-08 19:03:18] Nac : so if I missed 13:00utc by one second i gotta wait until tomorrow?
[2016-07-08 19:04:13] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: I submitted a market short the other day and it failed to tigger. I figured it could NOT fail right? ... its a friggin market short!!!!
[2016-07-08 19:04:39] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: You had "Close on Trigger" ticked
[2016-07-08 19:05:00] BitMEX_Sam : Nac: Your request was submitted just minutes ago
[2016-07-08 19:05:05] BitMEX_Wally : So when it activated it was rejected with the reason `Rejected: Order had execInst of Close and side of Sell but current position is 0`
[2016-07-08 19:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : 13:00 UTC was 6 hours ago
[2016-07-08 19:05:39] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: I feel such a wally! ;)
[2016-07-08 19:05:50] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: I feel myself daily
[2016-07-08 19:05:53] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-07-08 19:05:58] pgpenc : Should stop ticking boxes ;)
[2016-07-08 19:07:15] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: my wife does that to me daily, but it goes no further ;)
[2016-07-08 19:12:35] jung1 : huobi 4380
[2016-07-08 19:14:17] justinlooking : it is time
[2016-07-08 19:14:29] jung1 : for what
[2016-07-08 19:14:47] Roevenger : another dimension
[2016-07-08 19:15:08] pgpenc : ??
[2016-07-08 19:15:17] pgpenc : "?"
[2016-07-08 19:20:40] jung1 : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort
[2016-07-08 19:20:47] jung1 : long live finex
[2016-07-08 19:22:16] pgpenc : So classic Elliot waves from 1-4
[2016-07-08 19:23:03] pgpenc : Elliot wave 5 right after halving?
[2016-07-08 19:24:12] jung1 : looks like
[2016-07-08 19:31:42] jung1 : We’re thrilled to announce the start of our final testing stage before a full launch later this summer - Test Group C (TGC). TGC will be the first to test real world network conditions, and participants have a chance to get a portion of the rewards totaling 1,000,000 SJCX. Rewards will be distributed for telemetry reports, storing data, and transferring data on the network over the next few months.
[2016-07-08 19:32:18] rapidtrades : booooooooooooo
[2016-07-08 19:36:33] rapidtrades : did u know that the SNB is buying stocks like apple etc
[2016-07-08 19:37:05] rapidtrades : also this LOL http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-05/swiss-national-bank-slammed-massive-valeant-loss-adds-another-900000-apple-shares-q3
[2016-07-08 19:37:34] rapidtrades : the SNB is clearly a value investor
[2016-07-08 19:38:44] rapidtrades : remember when monpol was about restraining inflation? yeah me neither
[2016-07-08 19:39:19] jung1 : you talk to yourself?
[2016-07-08 19:40:02] rapidtrades : yes, frequently
[2016-07-08 19:40:30] Rado : lol
[2016-07-08 19:41:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 140 @ 0.01661
[2016-07-08 19:43:36] Rado : my ETH bot went long at 0.0165
[2016-07-08 19:43:40] Rado : scary
[2016-07-08 19:43:58] jung1 : do you trust him?
[2016-07-08 19:44:01] jesperf : you not knowing why it went long is even scarier
[2016-07-08 19:44:16] Rado : I do know
[2016-07-08 19:44:26] Rado : and I am very happy with it
[2016-07-08 19:44:38] jesperf : so why is it scary?
[2016-07-08 19:44:44] Rado : all I am saying is if I had to make the decision i would not go long
[2016-07-08 19:44:52] Rado : that's why bot is better than me at trading
[2016-07-08 19:44:55] jesperf : that's the scary part
[2016-07-08 19:45:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 250 @ 0.01670
[2016-07-08 19:45:36] zanza : anyone see that SPX?
[2016-07-08 19:45:43] Rado : going to get lunch
[2016-07-08 19:45:46] Rado : see ya later
[2016-07-08 19:45:59] jung1 : going to get drunk
[2016-07-08 19:46:02] jung1 : see ya
[2016-07-08 19:46:18] jesperf : I'm already drunk
[2016-07-08 19:46:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2000 @ 0.01678
[2016-07-08 19:48:56] jung1 : jesperf: drunk trade?
[2016-07-08 19:49:13] jesperf : jung1: not THAT drunk
[2016-07-08 19:50:07] jung1 : so far
[2016-07-08 20:13:04] migz : we breaking?
[2016-07-08 20:13:32] migz : we goin up? =)
[2016-07-08 20:20:14] nip : migz: yes
[2016-07-08 20:24:49] ax : here we go
[2016-07-08 20:24:54] ax : china dropping the ball
[2016-07-08 20:26:32] justinlooking : yum yum cheapies
[2016-07-08 20:26:35] nip : this is it
[2016-07-08 20:29:53] ax : maybe 5-10$ higher till we drop
[2016-07-08 20:30:05] migz : 666 the magic number.
[2016-07-08 20:30:25] justinlooking : 671.36
[2016-07-08 20:30:25] migz : still holding strong from 615 :D
[2016-07-08 20:30:32] migz : Noted.
[2016-07-08 20:32:41] ax : how much % up?
[2016-07-08 20:38:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 40 @ 657.25
[2016-07-08 20:40:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 51690 @ 657.50 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-08 20:48:35] migz : Buy that short =)
[2016-07-08 20:48:48] migz : and profit in 48 hours. XD
[2016-07-08 20:50:32] ax : still have another leg to go
[2016-07-08 21:04:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 490 @ 658.62
[2016-07-08 21:10:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 106 @ 0.01681
[2016-07-08 21:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 190 @ 0.01687
[2016-07-08 21:12:12] rapidtrades : cmon guys, fomo
[2016-07-08 21:12:19] rapidtrades : want to ditch my long at premium
[2016-07-08 21:13:01] justinlooking : u want to buy the U16 rapid?
[2016-07-08 21:13:16] rapidtrades : nah im cool tnx
[2016-07-08 21:13:38] justinlooking : <3
[2016-07-08 21:16:39] RSFinance : @radidtrades Are you looking to sell at $670?
[2016-07-08 21:17:02] RSFinance : @rapidtrades Are you looking to sell at $670?
[2016-07-08 21:17:58] RSFinance : rapidtrades: Are you looking to sell at $670?
[2016-07-08 21:18:11] RSFinance : third time is a charm
[2016-07-08 21:18:33] rapidtrades : wtf is wrong with u
[2016-07-08 21:20:37] RSFinance : rapidtrades: you want to ditch your long
[2016-07-08 21:22:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.01714
[2016-07-08 21:23:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 42 @ 0.01732
[2016-07-08 21:24:03] rapidtrades : RSFinance: i want to ditch u...
[2016-07-08 21:24:09] rapidtrades : .....off a f bridge
[2016-07-08 21:25:41] zanza : countdown to fireworks
[2016-07-08 21:26:16] rapidtrades : fireworks? we're not even back to where we were 2 days ago
[2016-07-08 21:27:10] zanza : could see some big moves
[2016-07-08 21:28:25] rapidtrades : u could also not see anything
[2016-07-08 21:30:02] rapidtrades : Tusk called Britain's June 23 vote to leave the 28-nation bloc a "very sad thing" and said it was a "very serious mistake" of Britain's political elite to call such a vote
[2016-07-08 21:30:23] rapidtrades : guys the problem was calling the vote...EU learning from its mistakes ^^^
[2016-07-08 21:30:28] RSFinance : It is going to be volatile but could be down as much as up. It should be profitable if you are hedging
[2016-07-08 21:41:02] ax : erryone market selling
[2016-07-08 21:42:07] BitMEX_Sam : Just a PSA: https://blog.bitmex.com/use-two-factor-authentication-and-dont-reuse-passwords/
[2016-07-08 21:42:08] RSFinance : yeah where are the bots to buy that up lol
[2016-07-08 21:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : In that post is a description of a spam attack we've seen hit our servers and appears to be hitting a number of Bitcoin serivces
[2016-07-08 21:54:42] Adura : Wonder what happens if you give them a fake successful login...
[2016-07-08 22:03:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 200 @ 0.01720
[2016-07-08 22:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.01708
[2016-07-08 22:08:29] QuantFocus : seems a little overdue for a correction imo
[2016-07-08 22:09:11] QuantFocus : despite the technicals looking pretty bullish
[2016-07-08 22:18:01] rullwull : looks like one more dive by daily and 4h, still didn't test <600
[2016-07-08 22:18:35] rullwull : 1h looks up for tomorrow
[2016-07-08 22:51:34] Klerni : It will try 750 I'm sure about it :-)
[2016-07-08 22:53:15] ax : stir up the fomo to get your shorts filled :)
[2016-07-08 22:55:16] rapidtrades : guys don't worry
[2016-07-08 23:00:23] rapidtrades : the bankers didn't let 1 level get broken today
[2016-07-08 23:00:30] rapidtrades : 1.10 on euro held, 100 on yen
[2016-07-08 23:00:43] rapidtrades : even 111 on eur/yen kinda held....
[2016-07-08 23:00:57] rapidtrades : but the two above bounced to the pip
[2016-07-08 23:01:11] rapidtrades : f*cking banksters man, legal mafia
[2016-07-08 23:09:18] 1QaZxSw2 : been long since 625, been adding on. feel like a professional HODLer http://imgur.com/iDiNqCw
[2016-07-08 23:09:41] 1QaZxSw2 : sold a bit at 655
[2016-07-08 23:09:59] rapidtrades : we're still not a finex levels
[2016-07-08 23:10:01] rapidtrades : FOMO
[2016-07-08 23:10:03] rapidtrades : FOMOOOOOOOO
[2016-07-08 23:11:15] fineregex : first time i was rekt
[2016-07-08 23:11:25] fineregex : and it didnt appear in the trollbox yet
[2016-07-08 23:11:42] fineregex : :/
[2016-07-08 23:13:56] fineregex : unfair
[2016-07-08 23:14:00] fineregex : :D
[2016-07-08 23:14:58] 1QaZxSw2 : "First I was rekt, I was petrified"
[2016-07-08 23:15:16] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-07-08 23:16:18] Rado : he he
[2016-07-08 23:20:37] fineregex : it was XBTU16 on leverage 25x, i needed to get rid of that
[2016-07-08 23:21:17] fineregex : (the quadratic long future)
[2016-07-08 23:21:43] Rado : fineregex: mark price hit over 815
[2016-07-08 23:21:53] Rado : what price did you short?
[2016-07-08 23:22:26] fineregex : it was rekt at 811
[2016-07-08 23:31:38] Rado : by the way Sep price not increasing much
[2016-07-08 23:32:06] fineregex : Your short position in the contract XBTU16 has reached its liquidation price of ≥ 811.71 and has been taken over by the trading engine. At the time of liquidation, the contract was marked at 811.76 and you were short 2010 contracts.
[2016-07-08 23:32:12] fineregex : 26 minutes ago
[2016-07-08 23:33:32] fineregex : there is a sell order all the time since hours 809.98 3510 contracts
[2016-07-08 23:33:48] Rado : right
[2016-07-08 23:33:51] fineregex : i wanted to buy it not to be rekt but was late by a second
[2016-07-08 23:33:56] Rado : nothing at 811.76
[2016-07-08 23:34:20] Rado : was it there earlier?
[2016-07-08 23:34:21] fineregex : why didnt the rekt cause any buy order?
[2016-07-08 23:34:26] fineregex : yes all the time
[2016-07-08 23:34:36] fineregex : same price
[2016-07-08 23:37:31] fineregex : i guess trading engine is being too smart here
[2016-07-08 23:44:46] odieoh : Fck we're doomed, finex peaked at 666.66
[2016-07-08 23:45:08] wotan : made a screenshot of it
[2016-07-08 23:45:13] odieoh : me too lol
[2016-07-08 23:45:16] wotan : hope we will go over it then push
[2016-07-08 23:45:35] wotan : those thigns are interesting
[2016-07-08 23:46:38] odieoh : Love to see 700 before the last 25 block
[2016-07-08 23:48:01] wotan : yes push since yesterday looks nice
[2016-07-08 23:48:08] wotan : but lets see
[2016-07-08 23:49:36] wotan : 777 lets go there-)
[2016-07-08 23:50:51] odieoh : ill drink to that
[2016-07-08 23:52:55] Rado : how about 888?
[2016-07-08 23:53:02] Rado : that will make new highs
[2016-07-08 23:53:09] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-08 23:53:24] wotan : good number too 777 was brexit number
[2016-07-08 23:54:13] wotan : bitcoin halfing then stock and bank crashes silver gold up could be a push for btc too
[2016-07-08 23:59:10] peasant_wizard : I'm getting Invalid Symbol on BTC Sep 12H
[2016-07-09 00:01:52] odieoh : I'm thinking the Winklevoss ETF is going to be what pushes it back over 1000
[2016-07-09 00:12:34] QuantFocus : down we go
[2016-07-09 00:12:59] QuantFocus : we need a little retrace
[2016-07-09 00:13:48] zanza : how come we are way under spot ?
[2016-07-09 00:18:54] ax : because finex is being held up by whale walls
[2016-07-09 00:19:03] ax : and finex is pretty dead in volume
[2016-07-09 00:19:25] Hawtdawg : why is my mark price and current price on the exchange so different right now?
[2016-07-09 00:20:56] fineregex : odieoh: how often you see that number?
[2016-07-09 00:26:44] odieoh : 777?
[2016-07-09 00:29:35] 1QaZxSw2 : because traders here are optimistic/pessimistic compared to traders at kaiko
[2016-07-09 01:16:47] ax : finex dumping into the walls
[2016-07-09 01:28:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 100 @ 66515.0
[2016-07-09 01:40:46] subjective : 30 Sep is a lot higher here than okcoin
[2016-07-09 02:23:29] NukeLaloosh : 14 hrs to halving...
[2016-07-09 02:23:34] miramm1115 : subjective: short it more
[2016-07-09 02:25:00] zanza : short interest is rising on Finex
[2016-07-09 02:39:18] rapidtrades : zanza: any trades on oil/sp?
[2016-07-09 02:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1736 @ 652.59
[2016-07-09 02:46:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2520 @ 650.99
[2016-07-09 02:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3251 @ 650.10
[2016-07-09 02:46:56] migz : hnnng!
[2016-07-09 02:50:42] fineregex : subjective: it is different
[2016-07-09 02:51:04] fineregex : subjective: quadratic , use the calculator
[2016-07-09 02:52:10] rapidtrades : why have BTC lending rates piked at fine
[2016-07-09 02:52:39] zanza : did the Halving already happen in Australia?
[2016-07-09 02:52:44] rapidtrades : spiked at finex...stupid lag
[2016-07-09 02:52:53] rapidtrades : zanza: shut up zanza
[2016-07-09 02:54:23] rapidtrades : Reward-Drop ETA date: 09 Jul 2016 16:53:56
[2016-07-09 02:59:24] RSFinance : Do you have OCO orders?
[2016-07-09 03:02:13] rapidtrades : there's no OCO yet...they plan to roll them out
[2016-07-09 03:06:49] rapidtrades : eventually...
[2016-07-09 03:17:51] Rado : Lol zanza
[2016-07-09 03:21:22] Rado : Here is my thinking about the halving
[2016-07-09 03:21:41] Rado : people are scared of not knowing what will happen
[2016-07-09 03:22:08] Rado : if everything runs smooth after the halving BTC will shoot up
[2016-07-09 03:22:37] Rado : nit because there is less coins, but because people will be buying in relieve
[2016-07-09 03:28:04] migz : what does funding countdown means?
[2016-07-09 03:28:07] migz : You get your profits?
[2016-07-09 03:28:36] Rado : No
[2016-07-09 03:28:58] Rado : one side pay the funding fee to the other side
[2016-07-09 03:31:14] migz : I see.
[2016-07-09 03:34:25] zanza : heres the dump boys
[2016-07-09 03:34:52] zanza : im 100% sidelines
[2016-07-09 07:45:46] donchard : who is using 2fa
[2016-07-09 07:45:59] donchard : i dont understand how it works
[2016-07-09 07:47:00] donchard : helo guys
[2016-07-09 07:47:43] donchard : is like no one on trollbox today
[2016-07-09 07:57:23] BTCDJS : donchard: i am
[2016-07-09 07:57:45] BTCDJS : which 2fa are you talking about. AUTH or Cleff?
[2016-07-09 07:58:17] donchard : google
[2016-07-09 07:58:24] donchard : i have done it now
[2016-07-09 07:58:37] donchard : what of if i miss my phone
[2016-07-09 07:59:29] donchard : i loose my phone
[2016-07-09 07:59:30] wotan : im here too
[2016-07-09 07:59:31] BTCDJS : donchard: then you use the code it give after the code you missed
[2016-07-09 07:59:52] wotan : holding long after halfing?
[2016-07-09 08:00:06] donchard : okay the code bitmex gave me right
[2016-07-09 08:00:15] donchard : i have to keep it safe
[2016-07-09 08:00:30] donchard : but i cant verify by sms
[2016-07-09 08:00:50] BTCDJS : oh yeah thats if you lose your phone. You will need to verify that its you.
[2016-07-09 08:01:05] donchard : how
[2016-07-09 08:01:09] BTCDJS : but cleff is better in that respect
[2016-07-09 08:01:23] donchard : how does cleff work
[2016-07-09 08:01:55] BTCDJS : you simply use you details that cliff holds to move your account over to your new phone
[2016-07-09 08:02:13] donchard : okay but is it free
[2016-07-09 08:02:31] BTCDJS : yes
[2016-07-09 08:02:46] donchard : okay tnx
[2016-07-09 08:03:03] donchard : what your view on halving will bitcoin rise
[2016-07-09 08:03:29] BTCDJS : donchard: i think 600 is the new floor.
[2016-07-09 08:03:47] donchard : okay what is the celling
[2016-07-09 08:04:44] donchard : BTCDJS: which time is the halving coming up
[2016-07-09 08:04:49] BTCDJS : 900-1000 for now. then consolidation over christmas before new highs
[2016-07-09 08:05:03] donchard : okay
[2016-07-09 08:05:08] BTCDJS : 9hrs from now give or take
[2016-07-09 08:05:20] donchard : am already long thanks
[2016-07-09 08:29:21] wotan : so i will get my dpe after a week or never or it depends?
[2016-07-09 08:31:50] RoftheN : Why would christmas cause new highs?
[2016-07-09 08:40:05] BTCDJS : RoftheN: i didn't say christmas will cause new highs
[2016-07-09 08:40:38] BTCDJS : traders take profit and enjoy their holidays
[2016-07-09 08:49:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 649.37
[2016-07-09 08:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 648.86
[2016-07-09 08:56:18] macios15 : 520 in no time
[2016-07-09 09:02:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7814 @ 646.00
[2016-07-09 09:02:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 28500 @ 644.80 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-09 09:02:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3400 @ 645.07
[2016-07-09 09:02:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 31000 @ 645.17 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-09 09:59:03] BitMEX_Wally : donchard: If you are using Google Authenticator 2FA I recommend using the Authy app to store the codes, it has backup and recovery options.
[2016-07-09 10:05:48] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: still planning on reintroducing 100x?
[2016-07-09 10:06:15] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: XBJ24H is 100x
[2016-07-09 10:07:07] ggwp : yep, but will xbtusd be?
[2016-07-09 10:09:53] BitMEX_Wally : If the funding rates stay low then yes
[2016-07-09 10:10:32] BitMEX_Wally : The problem is that if the premium/funding goes above 1% then we can't have 100x because there would not be enough margin
[2016-07-09 10:12:54] ggwp : right... thanks. was the volume data top right hand corner delted off the products?
[2016-07-09 10:18:49] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally:
[2016-07-09 10:19:13] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Yes, but it is still visible under Contract Details in the sidebar
[2016-07-09 10:19:19] BitMEX_Wally : `24H Volume: 7,628.4346 XBT`
[2016-07-09 10:22:34] ggwp : ah, thanks
[2016-07-09 10:41:58] Johnster : You guys on TradingView yet? (XBTUSD)
[2016-07-09 10:45:41] GreedyGoblin : BitMEX_Wally: Instead of just introducing 100x for XBTUSD swap I would rather like to see one swap with max leverage of 5x and another high risk swap with 10x to 100x
[2016-07-09 10:45:53] GreedyGoblin : not a big fan of DPE
[2016-07-09 10:48:43] wotan : will i get my DPE back after a week or never or it depends on what?
[2016-07-09 10:49:13] GreedyGoblin : its gone
[2016-07-09 10:49:22] wotan : dpe is gone?
[2016-07-09 10:50:27] wotan : im confused from this dpe
[2016-07-09 10:57:10] BitMEX_Wally : There was an unfilled liquidation order that caused DPE for 1 rebalance period. Later that the order was filled and there was no more subsequent DPE
[2016-07-09 11:00:12] wotan : all i want to know what will happen to my witheld profit. can i calculate it as gone, or will it get refunded in a week (sorry my english is not the best to fully understand it)
[2016-07-09 11:08:54] fineregex : wotan: it is meant to be paid most of the time and just withheld to make sure, no?.
[2016-07-09 11:18:04] wotan : what? so i will get it back after time or not?
[2016-07-09 11:21:38] BitMEX_Arthur : No any profit taken due to DPE is not returned to you
[2016-07-09 11:26:37] wotan : ok thanks for answer
[2016-07-09 11:31:11] NukeLaloosh : 6 hrs to halving
[2016-07-09 11:49:57] macios15 : you could not even imagine the dump that is coming guys
[2016-07-09 12:04:41] Mrceaser : Please can somebody explain for instance how my wallet balance is lets say .0675 while my withdrawable balance is 0.176 I am in a long trade which I initially opened but the system is showing me a margin that is far above the margin I started with?
[2016-07-09 12:05:43] Mrceaser : In essence what could cause my margin to almost double on an open position?
[2016-07-09 12:29:33] turtlefight : Will it be the great dumpening?
[2016-07-09 12:29:59] turtlefight : 5h15 approx left until that stupid halvening
[2016-07-09 12:35:22] 79548453 : How come proposed funding rate goes further negative (xbtusd) when both sides not hitting impacting price, and finex usd lending rate is higher than btc?
[2016-07-09 12:56:18] fineregex : Mrceaser: all profits are added to the margin, i dont know why
[2016-07-09 12:56:58] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally, BitMEX_Arthur: XBTU16 basis needs an adjustment
[2016-07-09 12:57:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, your profit is added to the margin assigned to a position. If it weren't, the price could go in your favor, move a little bit back & you'd be liquidated.
[2016-07-09 12:57:30] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it miramm1115
[2016-07-09 12:58:30] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: yet it is not possible to remove any margin when profitable
[2016-07-09 12:58:42] fineregex : i mean manually
[2016-07-09 12:58:42] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it is.
[2016-07-09 12:58:47] BitMEX_Sam : Just reset your leverage.
[2016-07-09 12:59:10] Mrceaser : Problem is the system now opens a new position at a higher level than the stated entry price. if you are realising profits why not just close the position.
[2016-07-09 12:59:50] BitMEX_Sam : I doubt users would like it if we just closed their positions daily on a perpetual contract.
[2016-07-09 12:59:56] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: it will stay below 25x/maximum by as much as the unrealized profit
[2016-07-09 13:00:00] BitMEX_Sam : The PNL moving from unrealised to realised is just accounting. Your PNL is the same.
[2016-07-09 13:00:17] BitMEX_Sam : fineregex: No, it will not, move the slider back and forth and watch how much margin is assigned
[2016-07-09 13:01:18] Mrceaser : @BitMex_Sam so what happens if I close the current position at par with my entry price?
[2016-07-09 13:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : As in, your original entry price, or the rebalance price?
[2016-07-09 13:01:53] Mrceaser : despite the calculator showing me a negative unrealised PNL
[2016-07-09 13:02:12] BitMEX_Wally : If you entered at x, rebalanced at y, and exit at z then your pnl is z-x
[2016-07-09 13:02:12] Mrceaser : Original entry price
[2016-07-09 13:02:25] BitMEX_Wally : But you have y-x via the first rebalance, and then z-y when you close
[2016-07-09 13:02:28] BitMEX_Wally : SO it all adds up the same
[2016-07-09 13:04:20] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: i tried to go back 33x for the 30sep future when it had both huge unrealized realized and realized profit, but it didnt allow me to move the liquidation price any closer to lock in any profit