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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-07-08 14:51:17] Rado : if they say buy it means short [2016-07-08 14:51:19] rapidtrades : not rly cos its always long [2016-07-08 14:51:55] rapidtrades : jung1: when's the last time it was short [2016-07-08 14:55:19] Rado : jung1: where do you see the short/long ratio? [2016-07-08 14:55:36] jung1 : Long / Short Margin Funding Ratios (shorts expressed in USD equivalent) [2016-07-08 14:55:41] jung1 : on the top [2016-07-08 14:55:57] Rado : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort [2016-07-08 14:56:25] Rado : looks long [2016-07-08 14:59:57] Rado : I didn't realize the rebalance of Sep happened [2016-07-08 15:00:19] Rado : I wish I bought way more yesterday when BTC was 615 [2016-07-08 15:03:31] jung1 : I wish I bought more at $15 and not trade them till now [2016-07-08 15:04:33] Rado : he he [2016-07-08 15:04:44] Rado : don't you have long term portfolio? [2016-07-08 15:05:00] Rado : I have some that are not on an exchange [2016-07-08 15:08:23] Rado : some nice buying on LSK [2016-07-08 15:08:40] Rado : still not much volume, but it might be a start of something [2016-07-08 15:15:54] jung1 : yeah I have some [2016-07-08 15:16:44] jung1 : till the end of year lisk could be worth 1/3 of eth price [2016-07-08 15:26:03] Rado : from your mouth to gods ears jung1 [2016-07-08 15:30:19] jung1 : my bets for '16 are bitcoin, lisk, monero and https://z.cash/ [2016-07-08 15:32:49] jung1 : but its pretty wired that they raised only 1mln for about 10% of all supply [2016-07-08 15:32:49] jung1 : https://z.cash/blog/funding.html [2016-07-08 15:39:11] jung1 : and hah dotcom is going to open megaupload 3.0 [2016-07-08 15:44:05] investor : Satosji we have a problem , we are goin down [2016-07-08 15:44:15] investor : satoshi* [2016-07-08 15:45:36] jung1 : not shure about that [2016-07-08 15:45:56] investor : jung1: how sure?? [2016-07-08 15:46:19] jung1 : 50/50 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2016-07-08 15:47:01] jung1 : ok [2016-07-08 15:47:11] jung1 : 51 to 49 that we are going up [2016-07-08 15:48:11] Rado : I am 70/30 bulish [2016-07-08 15:48:23] Rado : I don't see a reason for long term correction [2016-07-08 15:48:43] Rado : short term sure it might even test $480, but in a few months it will be way over current price [2016-07-08 15:48:53] jung1 : yeah [2016-07-08 15:49:19] jung1 : what wont kill you make you stronger and bitcoin already died like 150 times [2016-07-08 15:51:35] odieoh : What about osteoporosis? It doesn't kill you but it doesn't make you stronger. [2016-07-08 15:52:49] jung1 : good point [2016-07-08 15:54:19] Skitrx : or being in a fire for any amount of time [2016-07-08 15:54:23] Skitrx : surviving a high fall [2016-07-08 15:54:25] jung1 : Rado: do you run your bot on XBJ here? [2016-07-08 15:54:28] BitMEX_Sam : Losing limbs [2016-07-08 15:54:40] Rado : no jung1 [2016-07-08 15:54:51] Rado : cryptotrader doesn't have BitMEX [2016-07-08 15:55:01] Rado : I haven't worked on creating my own platform yet [2016-07-08 15:55:10] Rado : need to write all the API calls and everything [2016-07-08 15:55:15] Rado : will be doing it slowly [2016-07-08 15:55:45] justinlooking : i am so bullish it hurts, but then i was positive about brexit remain and germany for the euro's.... u lot should probably get short! [2016-07-08 15:57:28] Rado : At $400 Million a Year, Academic Argues Bitcoin Mining Worth the Cost [2016-07-08 15:57:35] Rado : http://www.coindesk.com/400-million-year-researcher-argues-bitcoin-mining-worth-cost/ [2016-07-08 16:01:16] jung1 : chuna buying hard [2016-07-08 16:01:27] jung1 : 20y up [2016-07-08 16:01:31] odieoh : @bitmex_sam how exactly is the TWAP calculated for the perpetual swaps? Is it the price of the orders that are actually executed vs the mark price? [2016-07-08 16:05:11] BitMEX_Sam : It's the mark price [2016-07-08 16:12:06] BitMEX_Wally : odieoh: More information here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#xbtusdpi-calculation [2016-07-08 16:15:41] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: when bitmex will be avaliable on some mobile apps like tabtrader? [2016-07-08 16:16:08] Rado : jung1: it's up to the developer of these apps to include BitMEX [2016-07-08 16:16:15] Rado : there is an API and anyone can use it [2016-07-08 16:16:40] Rado : I can create an iPhone app if I want to [2016-07-08 16:16:53] jung1 : but bitmex have more options than tabtrater have [2016-07-08 16:17:04] jung1 : android>ios [2016-07-08 16:17:31] Rado : It's not worth for BitMEX to spend money on creating native apps [2016-07-08 16:17:54] Rado : it's better for them if the UI is good and you can trade on mobile using the browser [2016-07-08 16:18:16] BitMEX_Wally : We make it as easy as possible to integrate with our API, so all these third-party apps can add BitMEX support easily [2016-07-08 16:18:19] Rado : that's what we do when building apps [2016-07-08 16:18:37] BitMEX_Wally : The best thing to do if you are a tab-trader user, is to email them and ask for them to support BitMEX [2016-07-08 16:18:46] jung1 : k [2016-07-08 16:22:57] 1QaZxSw2 : @BitMEX_Wally makes sense, let others write a vareity of apps. you just make a solid api [2016-07-08 16:25:44] jung1 : go china go [2016-07-08 16:42:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1500 @ 65802.0 [2016-07-08 16:45:37] jung1 : cheap coins [2016-07-08 16:55:55] blackwhite : bitmex, when will we have quotes xbj in usd? [2016-07-08 16:58:40] jung1 : wut [2016-07-08 16:58:55] jung1 : you want to trade bitcoin/yen in usd? [2016-07-08 16:58:58] jung1 : how [2016-07-08 16:59:00] jung1 : and why [2016-07-08 17:02:02] odieoh : maybe he just wants bitmex to do straight currency trading here. Forex [2016-07-08 17:10:00] BitMEX_Wally : We are going to add a USD view onto XBJ24H so you can enter orders and view everything in USD at a fixed JPY rate [2016-07-08 17:13:27] Rado : nice BitMEX_Wally [2016-07-08 17:13:31] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hello Wally, I think an interesting instrument (and innovative) could be a swap perpetual to btc-gold pair. [2016-07-08 17:13:38] Rado : please add more long term contracts [2016-07-08 17:13:59] Rado : we need monthly or quarterly [2016-07-08 17:14:06] Rado : and at least two of them [2016-07-08 17:14:16] Rado : not just one like we have with September now [2016-07-08 17:15:24] 1QaZxSw2 : Rado: swap is very long term [2016-07-08 17:15:38] Rado : but you pay funding [2016-07-08 17:15:53] Rado : on quarterly I can be long term long and not worry [2016-07-08 17:15:59] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, the funding sucks, but on a long term contract you would pay premium [2016-07-08 17:16:07] Rado : then I can use swap to manage risk [2016-07-08 17:16:17] Rado : I am fine with premium [2016-07-08 17:16:23] Rado : that's the point [2016-07-08 17:16:37] Rado : I can use both to manage my trading appropriately [2016-07-08 17:16:46] Rado : right now I can only be long or short swap [2016-07-08 17:16:48] Rado : that's it [2016-07-08 17:16:51] Rado : not very good [2016-07-08 17:16:59] 1QaZxSw2 : ah, so you would take opposing positions? [2016-07-08 17:17:08] Rado : yes [2016-07-08 17:17:22] 1QaZxSw2 : short swap, long futures [2016-07-08 17:17:26] rapidtrades : sept still overpriced imo...$150 [2016-07-08 17:17:28] justinlooking : i definitely prefer futures, but very hard to find MMs... [2016-07-08 17:17:30] odieoh : Is there going to be a December quanto BTC instrument? [2016-07-08 17:17:31] 1QaZxSw2 : eat the funding on the swap? [2016-07-08 17:17:35] Rado : I don't want to sell my long term futures even when BTC is overbought [2016-07-08 17:17:39] Rado : but I can short swap [2016-07-08 17:18:03] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, the swap ensures you dont have to keep exiting and re-entering [2016-07-08 17:18:08] odieoh : Rado do you hold long XBTU16 and short the perpetual swap? [2016-07-08 17:18:11] Rado : yep [2016-07-08 17:18:12] rapidtrades : nvm that was on mark, actual is around $125 [2016-07-08 17:18:15] 1QaZxSw2 : sort of like covered calls [2016-07-08 17:18:30] Rado : exactly 1QaZxSw2 [2016-07-08 17:18:37] rapidtrades : Rado: ur long sept and short swap??????????????? [2016-07-08 17:18:48] Rado : not right now rapidtrades [2016-07-08 17:18:55] Rado : I am only long Sep [2016-07-08 17:18:55] odieoh : I am [2016-07-08 17:19:03] rapidtrades : isn't that the opposite of a covered call [2016-07-08 17:19:05] Rado : but we are talking in theory why we need a long term contract [2016-07-08 17:19:31] rapidtrades : well not gonna happen [2016-07-08 17:19:39] rapidtrades : u don't know how bitmex works [2016-07-08 17:20:00] Rado : well if they want customers they need to listen to them [2016-07-08 17:20:13] Rado : otherwise there are other compnaies doing similar trading [2016-07-08 17:20:16] zanza : they do, customers just want mega leverage [2016-07-08 17:20:24] zanza : and continuous contract [2016-07-08 17:20:49] jung1 : so basicly4400 here we go [2016-07-08 17:21:08] odieoh : You can have both (as they currently do) [2016-07-08 17:21:21] Rado : zanza: that's only a couple of things that we want [2016-07-08 17:21:24] Rado : there is a lot more [2016-07-08 17:21:55] zanza : long term contracts all have very low volume [2016-07-08 17:22:04] QuantFocus : finex at 654 [2016-07-08 17:22:19] odieoh : Yeah. But they do have some volume [2016-07-08 17:22:19] Rado : I disagree zanza [2016-07-08 17:22:33] Rado : 24H volume 78 XBT [2016-07-08 17:22:49] Rado : that is good money [2016-07-08 17:23:08] Rado : and we assume that customer base will increase in the future [2016-07-08 17:23:25] Rado : open value is 523 XBT [2016-07-08 17:24:00] zanza : gigantic slippage for opening position [2016-07-08 17:24:12] odieoh : if you take market price [2016-07-08 17:24:25] odieoh : put in an order and wait; they often get filled eventually [2016-07-08 17:24:46] odieoh : kind of have to buy during a downswing [2016-07-08 17:24:54] Rado : zanza: let me put it to you this way. I invested 0.3 on the dip to 580 and made 2.5 BTC [2016-07-08 17:25:01] Rado : did you make that on the swap? [2016-07-08 17:25:06] Rado : a lot harder to do [2016-07-08 17:25:22] zanza : 25x leverage and investing should not be used in the same sentence [2016-07-08 17:25:26] Rado : I want to make money, don't know about you [2016-07-08 17:25:47] Rado : that's your narrow view [2016-07-08 17:26:55] blackwhite : > Rado: please add more long term contracts +1 [2016-07-08 17:27:33] zanza : they used to have more , they may discontinue the sept also [2016-07-08 17:27:41] rapidtrades : zanza: 25x is fine...regular futures have 50x [2016-07-08 17:28:06] rapidtrades : 10/1 would suffice for bitcoin due to the volatility [2016-07-08 17:28:20] blackwhite : 1QaZxSw2 : ya, the funding sucks +1 [2016-07-08 17:28:27] rapidtrades : i would be ok with lower lev if it means no clawbacks [2016-07-08 17:29:22] rapidtrades : also if i may go off on a lil tangent here....its not true that the reason u have to use clawbacks is anonymity [2016-07-08 17:29:53] justinlooking : who claims that? [2016-07-08 17:29:56] rapidtrades : because in normal markets in 90% of cases a broker will not come after u for negative balance [2016-07-08 17:30:15] rapidtrades : justinlooking: when they first started clawbacks that was the excuse used....we can't go after users etc etc [2016-07-08 17:30:42] rapidtrades : real reason is leverage is just too high for vol and they'll lose business if they lower it [2016-07-08 17:31:35] Rado : we just nee more people to use BitMEX [2016-07-08 17:31:41] Rado : but for most it's hard [2016-07-08 17:32:31] rapidtrades : pretty much unless ur trading millions or run a fund in the US ur not worth the hassle [2016-07-08 17:33:47] rapidtrades : too much bad press, it wouldn't be worth it even if they got some $$$ [2016-07-08 17:39:48] rapidtrades : they said this will be the most important NFP this year...guess what it did f*Ck all to change rate expectations [2016-07-08 17:40:04] 1QaZxSw2 : what is NFP [2016-07-08 17:40:21] rapidtrades : google it.... [2016-07-08 17:41:51] 1QaZxSw2 : non-farm payroll? [2016-07-08 17:41:52] justinlooking : nfp is so overrated [2016-07-08 17:42:03] Rado : agreed [2016-07-08 17:42:05] justinlooking : it's been shit since 2008 [2016-07-08 17:42:23] justinlooking : yes 1Q [2016-07-08 17:44:45] justinlooking : support: typo on app/preferences . s/placed to deep/placed too deep [2016-07-08 17:45:06] jung1 : finex hit 3 times 655 [2016-07-08 17:45:20] justinlooking : will break in 15 mins ;) [2016-07-08 17:45:35] justinlooking : and then sit at 671 for 4 hours [2016-07-08 17:46:06] jung1 : feel free bitcoin [2016-07-08 17:46:13] jung1 : do what he said [2016-07-08 17:46:46] Rado : lol [2016-07-08 17:47:06] Rado : usually when it doesn't break 3 times it goes down [2016-07-08 17:48:28] 1QaZxSw2 : if this does not sell off to 648, it should pop-up [2016-07-08 17:48:48] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess thats like saying it should go down or it will go up [2016-07-08 17:49:13] 1QaZxSw2 : but basically i think we are going to see relief from this chop [2016-07-08 17:51:22] Rado : :-) [2016-07-08 17:51:30] Rado : there is a third option 1QaZxSw2 [2016-07-08 17:51:47] Rado : it can stay in $5 range for a while [2016-07-08 17:52:40] 1QaZxSw2 : been long since about 625 http://imgur.com/4izVrWY [2016-07-08 17:52:42] jung1 : yup [2016-07-08 17:52:47] Rado : since the Euro fell against the dollar Kraken has been keeping constant record price in USD for BTC [2016-07-08 17:53:02] Rado : at $658 now [2016-07-08 17:53:38] jung1 : imo china is preparingg for 4400 attack [2016-07-08 17:53:41] 1QaZxSw2 : i've almost doubled my account, back to where i started before i got rekt on the big drop [2016-07-08 17:53:53] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny [2016-07-08 17:53:57] jung1 : 1QaZxSw2: gratz [2016-07-08 17:54:01] Rado : nice 1QaZxSw2 [2016-07-08 17:54:05] 1QaZxSw2 : thx [2016-07-08 17:54:09] Rado : don't forget to take profits or set stops [2016-07-08 17:54:17] 1QaZxSw2 : gotta keep stops when i step away yes [2016-07-08 17:54:27] 1QaZxSw2 : thats how i got roughy caressed before [2016-07-08 17:54:30] Rado : even if you are here is good to have stops [2016-07-08 17:54:51] 1QaZxSw2 : yes i got stops [2016-07-08 17:54:53] Rado : it's hard to take action manually because of human emotion [2016-07-08 17:55:40] Rado : here is one thing I don't get about DAO [2016-07-08 17:56:01] Rado : I understand that ETH price might stay up because they have a good prodyct [2016-07-08 17:56:03] Rado : product [2016-07-08 17:56:10] Rado : I don't get why DAO is holding [2016-07-08 17:56:13] jung1 : yeah [2016-07-08 17:56:14] jung1 : same [2016-07-08 17:56:29] Rado : everyone will loose their money, shouldn't DAO go to 0? [2016-07-08 17:56:44] Rado : what am I missing? [2016-07-08 17:56:49] jung1 : nothing [2016-07-08 17:57:01] jung1 : it have to be fake one [2016-07-08 17:57:34] Rado : I invested 50 ETH and don't really care if I lose them, but will gladly short the DAO if no one will be able to get any money back [2016-07-08 17:57:56] Rado : it was just lets see what this decentralized organization can do [2016-07-08 17:58:35] jung1 : I did not touch that [2016-07-08 17:59:16] migz : decentralized, and they are trying to control the lose. hypocrites. [2016-07-08 18:02:51] jung1 : but its good that it collapse [2016-07-08 18:02:57] jung1 : next one will be better [2016-07-08 18:04:48] 1QaZxSw2 : also people will invest moderately [2016-07-08 18:04:54] 1QaZxSw2 : $200m is too much sh!t [2016-07-08 18:05:37] jung1 : most of that coins was from new investors [2016-07-08 18:05:47] jung1 : from outside of bitcoin ecosystem [2016-07-08 18:05:48] 1QaZxSw2 : vitalik i what 19? thats too much responsibility for a teenager [2016-07-08 18:05:59] jung1 : lisk ceo is 24 [2016-07-08 18:06:05] jung1 : max kordek [2016-07-08 18:06:16] 1QaZxSw2 : shit i should start my own coin [2016-07-08 18:06:17] jung1 : adapt or die [2016-07-08 18:06:25] 1QaZxSw2 : am gonna call it titcoin [2016-07-08 18:06:27] jung1 : yeah now its good time for that [2016-07-08 18:06:36] jung1 : pornhub makes that [2016-07-08 18:06:39] jung1 : in '14 [2016-07-08 18:06:43] 1QaZxSw2 : even that is taken? [2016-07-08 18:07:00] jung1 : yeah and you get reward if you scan real tits [2016-07-08 18:07:30] 1QaZxSw2 : can i buy "swap" on that? [2016-07-08 18:07:34] jung1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatx83Gy8kE [2016-07-08 18:09:25] jung1 : but if you will run some nice dapp or new coin bu ICO [2016-07-08 18:09:33] jung1 : now is good time for that [2016-07-08 18:10:31] migz : sell a coin base on idea. You'll rake 100m usd. [2016-07-08 18:10:48] migz : if you focus on usefulness, you'lthe coin ends up cheap. lol [2016-07-08 18:11:00] jung1 : yeah [2016-07-08 18:11:12] migz : like factom, xmr, nxt. lol [2016-07-08 18:11:51] jung1 : its long term investments [2016-07-08 18:12:18] rapidtrades : now the japs are defending 100.50 [2016-07-08 18:12:28] jung1 : factom deals with governments [2016-07-08 18:12:41] jung1 : xmr is already +30% [2016-07-08 18:12:52] jung1 : even theymos recommend monero [2016-07-08 18:13:00] jung1 : its really good technology [2016-07-08 18:14:29] migz : yeah, but wont even reach 100m usd. O_O [2016-07-08 18:20:08] Kra : Theymos lol [2016-07-08 18:20:34] Kra : The biggest mob of btc world [2016-07-08 18:21:48] macios15 : dump incoming [2016-07-08 18:21:51] macios15 : huobi hacked [2016-07-08 18:22:15] jung1 : ? [2016-07-08 18:22:50] macios15 : jung1: troluje [2016-07-08 18:24:20] jung1 : ale jakis dump delikatny moze byc w suie [2016-07-08 18:25:25] Roevenger : macios15: source? [2016-07-08 18:25:55] Nac : In 1 and a half hours withdraws go thru? [2016-07-08 18:28:53] BitMEX_Greg : Nac: Hi Nac, withdrawals are processed each day at 13:00 UTC [2016-07-08 18:29:17] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#when-are-bitcoin-withdrawals-processed [2016-07-08 18:42:51] justinlooking : 2hrs for last 4 blocks, quick, to the FUD mobile! [2016-07-08 18:50:35] lockhedge : BitMEX is the 3rd largest BTC/USD market today. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets XBTUSD will probably become the largest market when DPE risk gets significantly lower [2016-07-08 18:51:51] pgpenc : WTF!!!! why isn't the trigger price included in the order history? [2016-07-08 18:56:05] jung1 : ]ALL HAIL BITMEX [2016-07-08 18:56:17] BitMEX_Wally : Not enough space for all the columns [2016-07-08 18:56:51] pgpenc : Your f'ing joking right? [2016-07-08 18:56:59] jung1 : 4400 here we go [2016-07-08 18:57:36] pgpenc : we need this info so that we can sanitise wrong trades!!!! [2016-07-08 18:58:42] BitMEX_Wally : Recently executed stop orders are in the Stops tab [2016-07-08 18:59:02] BitMEX_Wally : The stop price on your recently executed stop order was 651.50 [2016-07-08 18:59:15] Nac : BitMEX_Wally: so how long are my profits locked for? [2016-07-08 18:59:20] pgpenc : Had this weird order error the other day. Seemed to say that I couldn't open a market short at a trigger price since I didn't have any long positions opened. [2016-07-08 18:59:59] pgpenc : please don't tell me I need open long positions to open a market short at a tigger price? [2016-07-08 19:00:05] 1QaZxSw2 : are you sure you werent trying to set a stop [2016-07-08 19:00:24] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: You don't need a long position to open a short, nor do you need a long position to place a sell stop [2016-07-08 19:00:56] BitMEX_Wally : Nac: The swap contracts are rebalanced every day at 13:00 UTC and profits are unlocked then [2016-07-08 19:00:57] pgpenc : that's what I figured! [2016-07-08 19:01:20] 1QaZxSw2 : the UI is a bit different, now its a highlighted tab [2016-07-08 19:01:22] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: Let me check the logs [2016-07-08 19:01:41] Nac : BitMEX_Wally: so my withdraw at 13:00:01 won't go through? [2016-07-08 19:02:41] BitMEX_Wally : Nac: Sorry, I meant rebalance is at 12:00 UTC [2016-07-08 19:02:52] BitMEX_Wally : Then you can submit a withdraw request and they are processed at 13:00 UTC [2016-07-08 19:03:18] Nac : so if I missed 13:00utc by one second i gotta wait until tomorrow? [2016-07-08 19:04:13] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: I submitted a market short the other day and it failed to tigger. I figured it could NOT fail right? ... its a friggin market short!!!! [2016-07-08 19:04:39] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: You had "Close on Trigger" ticked [2016-07-08 19:05:00] BitMEX_Sam : Nac: Your request was submitted just minutes ago [2016-07-08 19:05:05] BitMEX_Wally : So when it activated it was rejected with the reason `Rejected: Order had execInst of Close and side of Sell but current position is 0` [2016-07-08 19:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : 13:00 UTC was 6 hours ago [2016-07-08 19:05:39] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: I feel such a wally! ;) [2016-07-08 19:05:50] BitMEX_Wally : pgpenc: I feel myself daily [2016-07-08 19:05:53] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2016-07-08 19:05:58] pgpenc : Should stop ticking boxes ;) [2016-07-08 19:07:15] pgpenc : BitMex_Wally: my wife does that to me daily, but it goes no further ;) [2016-07-08 19:12:35] jung1 : huobi 4380 [2016-07-08 19:14:17] justinlooking : it is time [2016-07-08 19:14:29] jung1 : for what [2016-07-08 19:14:47] Roevenger : another dimension [2016-07-08 19:15:08] pgpenc : ?? [2016-07-08 19:15:17] pgpenc : "?" [2016-07-08 19:20:40] jung1 : https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort [2016-07-08 19:20:47] jung1 : long live finex [2016-07-08 19:22:16] pgpenc : So classic Elliot waves from 1-4 [2016-07-08 19:23:03] pgpenc : Elliot wave 5 right after halving? [2016-07-08 19:24:12] jung1 : looks like [2016-07-08 19:31:42] jung1 : We’re thrilled to announce the start of our final testing stage before a full launch later this summer - Test Group C (TGC). TGC will be the first to test real world network conditions, and participants have a chance to get a portion of the rewards totaling 1,000,000 SJCX. Rewards will be distributed for telemetry reports, storing data, and transferring data on the network over the next few months. [2016-07-08 19:32:18] rapidtrades : booooooooooooo [2016-07-08 19:36:33] rapidtrades : did u know that the SNB is buying stocks like apple etc [2016-07-08 19:37:05] rapidtrades : also this LOL http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-05/swiss-national-bank-slammed-massive-valeant-loss-adds-another-900000-apple-shares-q3 [2016-07-08 19:37:34] rapidtrades : the SNB is clearly a value investor [2016-07-08 19:38:44] rapidtrades : remember when monpol was about restraining inflation? yeah me neither [2016-07-08 19:39:19] jung1 : you talk to yourself? [2016-07-08 19:40:02] rapidtrades : yes, frequently [2016-07-08 19:40:30] Rado : lol [2016-07-08 19:41:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 140 @ 0.01661 [2016-07-08 19:43:36] Rado : my ETH bot went long at 0.0165 [2016-07-08 19:43:40] Rado : scary [2016-07-08 19:43:58] jung1 : do you trust him? [2016-07-08 19:44:01] jesperf : you not knowing why it went long is even scarier [2016-07-08 19:44:16] Rado : I do know [2016-07-08 19:44:26] Rado : and I am very happy with it [2016-07-08 19:44:38] jesperf : so why is it scary? [2016-07-08 19:44:44] Rado : all I am saying is if I had to make the decision i would not go long [2016-07-08 19:44:52] Rado : that's why bot is better than me at trading [2016-07-08 19:44:55] jesperf : that's the scary part [2016-07-08 19:45:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 250 @ 0.01670 [2016-07-08 19:45:36] zanza : anyone see that SPX? [2016-07-08 19:45:43] Rado : going to get lunch [2016-07-08 19:45:46] Rado : see ya later [2016-07-08 19:45:59] jung1 : going to get drunk [2016-07-08 19:46:02] jung1 : see ya [2016-07-08 19:46:18] jesperf : I'm already drunk [2016-07-08 19:46:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2000 @ 0.01678 [2016-07-08 19:48:56] jung1 : jesperf: drunk trade? [2016-07-08 19:49:13] jesperf : jung1: not THAT drunk [2016-07-08 19:50:07] jung1 : so far [2016-07-08 20:13:04] migz : we breaking? [2016-07-08 20:13:32] migz : we goin up? =) [2016-07-08 20:20:14] nip : migz: yes [2016-07-08 20:24:49] ax : here we go [2016-07-08 20:24:54] ax : china dropping the ball [2016-07-08 20:26:32] justinlooking : yum yum cheapies [2016-07-08 20:26:35] nip : this is it [2016-07-08 20:29:53] ax : maybe 5-10$ higher till we drop [2016-07-08 20:30:05] migz : 666 the magic number. [2016-07-08 20:30:25] justinlooking : 671.36 [2016-07-08 20:30:25] migz : still holding strong from 615 :D [2016-07-08 20:30:32] migz : Noted. [2016-07-08 20:32:41] ax : how much % up? [2016-07-08 20:38:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 40 @ 657.25 [2016-07-08 20:40:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 51690 @ 657.50 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-07-08 20:48:35] migz : Buy that short =) [2016-07-08 20:48:48] migz : and profit in 48 hours. XD [2016-07-08 20:50:32] ax : still have another leg to go [2016-07-08 21:04:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 490 @ 658.62 [2016-07-08 21:10:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 106 @ 0.01681 [2016-07-08 21:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 190 @ 0.01687 [2016-07-08 21:12:12] rapidtrades : cmon guys, fomo [2016-07-08 21:12:19] rapidtrades : want to ditch my long at premium [2016-07-08 21:13:01] justinlooking : u want to buy the U16 rapid? [2016-07-08 21:13:16] rapidtrades : nah im cool tnx [2016-07-08 21:13:38] justinlooking : <3 [2016-07-08 21:16:39] RSFinance : @radidtrades Are you looking to sell at $670? [2016-07-08 21:17:02] RSFinance : @rapidtrades Are you looking to sell at $670? [2016-07-08 21:17:58] RSFinance : rapidtrades: Are you looking to sell at $670? [2016-07-08 21:18:11] RSFinance : third time is a charm [2016-07-08 21:18:33] rapidtrades : wtf is wrong with u [2016-07-08 21:20:37] RSFinance : rapidtrades: you want to ditch your long [2016-07-08 21:22:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.01714 [2016-07-08 21:23:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 42 @ 0.01732 [2016-07-08 21:24:03] rapidtrades : RSFinance: i want to ditch u... [2016-07-08 21:24:09] rapidtrades : .....off a f bridge [2016-07-08 21:25:41] zanza : countdown to fireworks [2016-07-08 21:26:16] rapidtrades : fireworks? we're not even back to where we were 2 days ago [2016-07-08 21:27:10] zanza : could see some big moves [2016-07-08 21:28:25] rapidtrades : u could also not see anything [2016-07-08 21:30:02] rapidtrades : Tusk called Britain's June 23 vote to leave the 28-nation bloc a "very sad thing" and said it was a "very serious mistake" of Britain's political elite to call such a vote [2016-07-08 21:30:23] rapidtrades : guys the problem was calling the vote...EU learning from its mistakes ^^^ [2016-07-08 21:30:28] RSFinance : It is going to be volatile but could be down as much as up. It should be profitable if you are hedging [2016-07-08 21:41:02] ax : erryone market selling [2016-07-08 21:42:07] BitMEX_Sam : Just a PSA: https://blog.bitmex.com/use-two-factor-authentication-and-dont-reuse-passwords/ [2016-07-08 21:42:08] RSFinance : yeah where are the bots to buy that up lol [2016-07-08 21:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : In that post is a description of a spam attack we've seen hit our servers and appears to be hitting a number of Bitcoin serivces [2016-07-08 21:54:42] Adura : Wonder what happens if you give them a fake successful login... [2016-07-08 22:03:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 200 @ 0.01720 [2016-07-08 22:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.01708 [2016-07-08 22:08:29] QuantFocus : seems a little overdue for a correction imo [2016-07-08 22:09:11] QuantFocus : despite the technicals looking pretty bullish [2016-07-08 22:18:01] rullwull : looks like one more dive by daily and 4h, still didn't test <600 [2016-07-08 22:18:35] rullwull : 1h looks up for tomorrow [2016-07-08 22:51:34] Klerni : It will try 750 I'm sure about it :-) [2016-07-08 22:53:15] ax : stir up the fomo to get your shorts filled :) [2016-07-08 22:55:16] rapidtrades : guys don't worry [2016-07-08 23:00:23] rapidtrades : the bankers didn't let 1 level get broken today [2016-07-08 23:00:30] rapidtrades : 1.10 on euro held, 100 on yen [2016-07-08 23:00:43] rapidtrades : even 111 on eur/yen kinda held.... [2016-07-08 23:00:57] rapidtrades : but the two above bounced to the pip [2016-07-08 23:01:11] rapidtrades : f*cking banksters man, legal mafia [2016-07-08 23:09:18] 1QaZxSw2 : been long since 625, been adding on. feel like a professional HODLer http://imgur.com/iDiNqCw [2016-07-08 23:09:41] 1QaZxSw2 : sold a bit at 655 [2016-07-08 23:09:59] rapidtrades : we're still not a finex levels [2016-07-08 23:10:01] rapidtrades : FOMO [2016-07-08 23:10:03] rapidtrades : FOMOOOOOOOO [2016-07-08 23:11:15] fineregex : first time i was rekt [2016-07-08 23:11:25] fineregex : and it didnt appear in the trollbox yet [2016-07-08 23:11:42] fineregex : :/ [2016-07-08 23:13:56] fineregex : unfair [2016-07-08 23:14:00] fineregex : :D [2016-07-08 23:14:58] 1QaZxSw2 : "First I was rekt, I was petrified" [2016-07-08 23:15:16] rapidtrades : :) [2016-07-08 23:16:18] Rado : he he [2016-07-08 23:20:37] fineregex : it was XBTU16 on leverage 25x, i needed to get rid of that [2016-07-08 23:21:17] fineregex : (the quadratic long future) [2016-07-08 23:21:43] Rado : fineregex: mark price hit over 815 [2016-07-08 23:21:53] Rado : what price did you short? [2016-07-08 23:22:26] fineregex : it was rekt at 811 [2016-07-08 23:31:38] Rado : by the way Sep price not increasing much [2016-07-08 23:32:06] fineregex : Your short position in the contract XBTU16 has reached its liquidation price of ≥ 811.71 and has been taken over by the trading engine. At the time of liquidation, the contract was marked at 811.76 and you were short 2010 contracts. [2016-07-08 23:32:12] fineregex : 26 minutes ago [2016-07-08 23:33:32] fineregex : there is a sell order all the time since hours 809.98 3510 contracts [2016-07-08 23:33:48] Rado : right [2016-07-08 23:33:51] fineregex : i wanted to buy it not to be rekt but was late by a second [2016-07-08 23:33:56] Rado : nothing at 811.76 [2016-07-08 23:34:20] Rado : was it there earlier? [2016-07-08 23:34:21] fineregex : why didnt the rekt cause any buy order? [2016-07-08 23:34:26] fineregex : yes all the time [2016-07-08 23:34:36] fineregex : same price [2016-07-08 23:37:31] fineregex : i guess trading engine is being too smart here [2016-07-08 23:44:46] odieoh : Fck we're doomed, finex peaked at 666.66 [2016-07-08 23:45:08] wotan : made a screenshot of it [2016-07-08 23:45:13] odieoh : me too lol [2016-07-08 23:45:16] wotan : hope we will go over it then push [2016-07-08 23:45:35] wotan : those thigns are interesting [2016-07-08 23:46:38] odieoh : Love to see 700 before the last 25 block [2016-07-08 23:48:01] wotan : yes push since yesterday looks nice [2016-07-08 23:48:08] wotan : but lets see [2016-07-08 23:49:36] wotan : 777 lets go there-) [2016-07-08 23:50:51] odieoh : ill drink to that [2016-07-08 23:52:55] Rado : how about 888? [2016-07-08 23:53:02] Rado : that will make new highs [2016-07-08 23:53:09] Rado : :-) [2016-07-08 23:53:24] wotan : good number too 777 was brexit number [2016-07-08 23:54:13] wotan : bitcoin halfing then stock and bank crashes silver gold up could be a push for btc too [2016-07-08 23:59:10] peasant_wizard : I'm getting Invalid Symbol on BTC Sep 12H [2016-07-09 00:01:52] odieoh : I'm thinking the Winklevoss ETF is going to be what pushes it back over 1000 [2016-07-09 00:12:34] QuantFocus : down we go [2016-07-09 00:12:59] QuantFocus : we need a little retrace [2016-07-09 00:13:48] zanza : how come we are way under spot ? [2016-07-09 00:18:54] ax : because finex is being held up by whale walls [2016-07-09 00:19:03] ax : and finex is pretty dead in volume [2016-07-09 00:19:25] Hawtdawg : why is my mark price and current price on the exchange so different right now? [2016-07-09 00:20:56] fineregex : odieoh: how often you see that number? [2016-07-09 00:26:44] odieoh : 777? [2016-07-09 00:29:35] 1QaZxSw2 : because traders here are optimistic/pessimistic compared to traders at kaiko [2016-07-09 01:16:47] ax : finex dumping into the walls [2016-07-09 01:28:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 100 @ 66515.0 [2016-07-09 01:40:46] subjective : 30 Sep is a lot higher here than okcoin [2016-07-09 02:23:29] NukeLaloosh : 14 hrs to halving... [2016-07-09 02:23:34] miramm1115 : subjective: short it more [2016-07-09 02:25:00] zanza : short interest is rising on Finex [2016-07-09 02:39:18] rapidtrades : zanza: any trades on oil/sp? [2016-07-09 02:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1736 @ 652.59 [2016-07-09 02:46:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2520 @ 650.99 [2016-07-09 02:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3251 @ 650.10 [2016-07-09 02:46:56] migz : hnnng! [2016-07-09 02:50:42] fineregex : subjective: it is different [2016-07-09 02:51:04] fineregex : subjective: quadratic , use the calculator [2016-07-09 02:52:10] rapidtrades : why have BTC lending rates piked at fine [2016-07-09 02:52:39] zanza : did the Halving already happen in Australia? [2016-07-09 02:52:44] rapidtrades : spiked at finex...stupid lag [2016-07-09 02:52:53] rapidtrades : zanza: shut up zanza [2016-07-09 02:54:23] rapidtrades : Reward-Drop ETA date: 09 Jul 2016 16:53:56 [2016-07-09 02:59:24] RSFinance : Do you have OCO orders? [2016-07-09 03:02:13] rapidtrades : there's no OCO yet...they plan to roll them out [2016-07-09 03:06:49] rapidtrades : eventually... [2016-07-09 03:17:51] Rado : Lol zanza [2016-07-09 03:21:22] Rado : Here is my thinking about the halving [2016-07-09 03:21:41] Rado : people are scared of not knowing what will happen [2016-07-09 03:22:08] Rado : if everything runs smooth after the halving BTC will shoot up [2016-07-09 03:22:37] Rado : nit because there is less coins, but because people will be buying in relieve [2016-07-09 03:28:04] migz : what does funding countdown means? [2016-07-09 03:28:07] migz : You get your profits? [2016-07-09 03:28:36] Rado : No [2016-07-09 03:28:58] Rado : one side pay the funding fee to the other side [2016-07-09 03:31:14] migz : I see. [2016-07-09 03:34:25] zanza : heres the dump boys [2016-07-09 03:34:52] zanza : im 100% sidelines [2016-07-09 07:45:46] donchard : who is using 2fa [2016-07-09 07:45:59] donchard : i dont understand how it works [2016-07-09 07:47:00] donchard : helo guys [2016-07-09 07:47:43] donchard : is like no one on trollbox today [2016-07-09 07:57:23] BTCDJS : donchard: i am [2016-07-09 07:57:45] BTCDJS : which 2fa are you talking about. AUTH or Cleff? [2016-07-09 07:58:17] donchard : google [2016-07-09 07:58:24] donchard : i have done it now [2016-07-09 07:58:37] donchard : what of if i miss my phone [2016-07-09 07:59:29] donchard : i loose my phone [2016-07-09 07:59:30] wotan : im here too [2016-07-09 07:59:31] BTCDJS : donchard: then you use the code it give after the code you missed [2016-07-09 07:59:52] wotan : holding long after halfing? [2016-07-09 08:00:06] donchard : okay the code bitmex gave me right [2016-07-09 08:00:15] donchard : i have to keep it safe [2016-07-09 08:00:30] donchard : but i cant verify by sms [2016-07-09 08:00:50] BTCDJS : oh yeah thats if you lose your phone. You will need to verify that its you. [2016-07-09 08:01:05] donchard : how [2016-07-09 08:01:09] BTCDJS : but cleff is better in that respect [2016-07-09 08:01:23] donchard : how does cleff work [2016-07-09 08:01:55] BTCDJS : you simply use you details that cliff holds to move your account over to your new phone