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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-07-07 13:56:21] boolander : Jj4real - this troll box is a wealth of knowledge - they will learned you quick - esp rapid [2016-07-07 13:57:10] jung1 : true that [2016-07-07 13:57:37] boolander : jungster has the deepest links to up and coming potential coinage [2016-07-07 13:57:53] jung1 : we are professionals here and bitmex pay us for support [2016-07-07 13:58:00] boolander : haha [2016-07-07 13:58:37] boolander : at a minimum, you can have a rational / logical conversation in this trollbox [2016-07-07 13:58:48] jung1 : there is also nice guy called REKTBOT and he is sitting here and staring at orderbox to post every liquidation here [2016-07-07 13:59:04] jung1 : boolander: *if you ignore rapid [2016-07-07 13:59:31] boolander : haha. bait! [2016-07-07 13:59:34] Jj4REAL : haha cheers [2016-07-07 14:00:45] johndoe : yah, i honestly thought REKT was a really bad-trading whale at first who kept posting everytime he lost a lot. hah. i'd always get ready to take the other side of his liquidated trade [2016-07-07 14:01:07] johndoe : wanted to know how he posted each loss with that formatting [2016-07-07 14:01:18] jung1 : btw its not a bad idea to write a bot that trade against rekt [2016-07-07 14:03:01] Jj4REAL : yeah taking a short at the liquidated long sell price seems like a nobrainer; cant quite see what risk is there if the marker goes against you [2016-07-07 14:03:16] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03 [2016-07-07 14:03:48] jung1 : but rekt is when price drop 10-15$ [2016-07-07 14:03:53] Jj4REAL : oh that; it does move [2016-07-07 14:04:09] NukeLaloosh : what happened to no more agressing?—whatever tf agressing means [2016-07-07 14:04:09] jung1 : when you go long right after rekt its quite possible to make profit [2016-07-07 14:04:42] NukeLaloosh : where is this money coming from? [2016-07-07 14:04:47] boolander : if momentum changes though and he gets filled, the mark is usually trading at a premium. so, shorting not so risk-free in that sense [2016-07-07 14:05:09] jung1 : trading is not free-risk [2016-07-07 14:05:28] Jj4REAL : how quick is half a mil going to fill round here if the price moves up 5%? [2016-07-07 14:05:48] rapidtrades : 1 min [2016-07-07 14:05:52] boolander : i'd be a buyer if that was the case [2016-07-07 14:06:03] zanza : whoa what happened to the price? [2016-07-07 14:06:30] Jj4REAL : is there some way to see the actual trade vol on the TV chart? [2016-07-07 14:07:21] jung1 : zanza: bitcoin is dead [2016-07-07 14:08:36] boolander : jungster shared this link awhile ago Jj4REAL - it's beta - but has a good base to play around with: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/price_volume/1h/USD/bitfinex?r=minute&t=lb&vu=curr [2016-07-07 14:10:48] Jj4REAL : but isnt that bitfinex? Im curious about the bitmex XBT voume, the candles on TV dont have a scale attached [2016-07-07 14:11:05] rapidtrades : finally some risk aversion back in the markets [2016-07-07 14:11:44] Jj4REAL : ooh there it goes [2016-07-07 14:11:48] boolander : that chart is flex for all crypto exchanges. the bitmex XBT charts are...meh. [2016-07-07 14:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 1 @ 760.99 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-07 14:15:35] jung1 : Hello REKT! [2016-07-07 14:16:15] NukeLaloosh : friendly reminder: no DPE on the XBJ! you don't even need to like sushi! or bukkake! [2016-07-07 14:17:50] Mr Blue : NukeLaloosh: cool +1 [2016-07-07 14:19:43] BitMEX_Wally : Funding rate on ETHXBT is 0.19% so longs will get paid. The offer is currently below mark price so good time to buy [2016-07-07 14:19:53] BitMEX_Wally : -0.19% [2016-07-07 14:20:35] boolander : Mmm bukaki [2016-07-07 14:21:12] Jj4REAL : haha yeah eth is cheap; sounds like /r/ethtrader talk [2016-07-07 14:23:21] boolander : cheap can get cheaper [2016-07-07 14:23:31] boolander : ETH is wounded [2016-07-07 14:23:42] boolander : tread lightly [2016-07-07 14:24:35] NukeLaloosh : btw, this continual moving of the LIQN/DPE order is fucking my upcoming long funding [2016-07-07 14:24:39] boolander : i have no exposure to it. have been long(before DAO debacle) and short at times. -0- at mo [2016-07-07 14:25:38] Jj4REAL : mm wounded bull [2016-07-07 14:25:56] boolander : trade it. don't marry it [2016-07-07 14:26:13] boolander : until more clarity/information [2016-07-07 14:26:14] rapidtrades : u know what they say...a 90% loss is 80% after losing half [2016-07-07 14:26:19] rapidtrades : or whatever... [2016-07-07 14:26:34] boolander : 70% of the time, i win every time! [2016-07-07 14:28:16] rapidtrades : if u buy smth when its 80% and it continues to go to 90% u lose half [2016-07-07 14:28:27] rapidtrades : 80% of its peak [2016-07-07 14:29:22] rapidtrades : there's a better way of saying it but im an idiot [2016-07-07 14:29:34] Jj4REAL : think ive lost 5/5 trades at eth/btc staying clear [2016-07-07 14:29:42] boolander : 100% of wall street doesn't get it rapid [2016-07-07 14:30:33] Jj4REAL : anyone seen the forecaster? [2016-07-07 14:32:59] boolander : nope. reading "superforeasting: the art and science of predicting" at moment. [2016-07-07 14:33:50] boolander : *superforecasting [2016-07-07 14:57:20] zanza : was that big dump China or Finex? [2016-07-07 14:59:16] rapidtrades : well finex went down more but micmix said 'okc turned on their dumpbot' [2016-07-07 15:02:38] rapidtrades : oil just crashed [2016-07-07 15:03:56] jung1 : 24h before halving there was 1/3price drop on litecoin [2016-07-07 15:04:16] rapidtrades : litecoin price crashed well before halving sir [2016-07-07 15:08:48] jung1 : konw that [2016-07-07 15:09:00] rapidtrades : i guess u could argue that bitcoin's drop to $550 was that crash [2016-07-07 15:09:14] jung1 : but its not immpossible to hit even 550 tommorow [2016-07-07 15:09:38] rapidtrades : litecoin slowly recovered after that crash tho....looks like halving made a floor in the price [2016-07-07 15:10:01] rapidtrades : if u look at monthly charts [2016-07-07 15:15:30] rapidtrades : when was dogecoin halving [2016-07-07 15:18:48] jung1 : necer [2016-07-07 15:18:57] jung1 : after 600k block there is no limit [2016-07-07 15:19:01] jung1 : never [2016-07-07 15:19:30] zanza : the price was always floating up slowly, then getting smacked down [2016-07-07 15:20:28] rapidtrades : jung1: i remember 1 halving [2016-07-07 15:21:27] jung1 : yeah [2016-07-07 15:22:08] jung1 : btw I was looking for something on my old email and I found instawallet registration mail [2016-07-07 15:22:18] jung1 : I lost over 70btc back in the days [2016-07-07 15:22:24] jung1 : [*] [2016-07-07 15:22:31] rapidtrades : brutal [2016-07-07 15:22:41] zanza : sorry bro [2016-07-07 15:22:47] rapidtrades : that was run by that scammer what his name [2016-07-07 15:22:56] rapidtrades : one of the first scammer in btc [2016-07-07 15:23:08] jung1 : dunno [2016-07-07 15:23:49] jung1 : what will not kill you make you stronger and it was liek 2013 [2016-07-07 15:24:17] rapidtrades : much weaker yuan only thing that can save bitcoin now [2016-07-07 15:25:53] jung1 : Im thinking of go long on monero during halving [2016-07-07 15:26:19] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr [2016-07-07 15:26:23] rapidtrades : when is it [2016-07-07 15:27:08] jung1 : during bitcoin halving [2016-07-07 15:27:23] jung1 : even theymos recommend it [2016-07-07 15:29:35] rapidtrades : what date [2016-07-07 15:34:20] rapidtrades : jung1: !!! [2016-07-07 15:34:35] jung1 : what [2016-07-07 15:34:35] jung1 : bitcoin halving is in saturday [2016-07-07 15:34:59] rapidtrades : what about monero [2016-07-07 15:37:09] zanza : monero halving is next week [2016-07-07 15:37:30] zanza : if theymos reccomends it, must be legit [2016-07-07 15:37:38] jung1 : #irony [2016-07-07 15:43:25] rapidtrades : dam btce is having none of this rally...626 [2016-07-07 15:44:27] zanza : btce is always behind [2016-07-07 15:44:53] blackwhite : hi bitmex [2016-07-07 15:45:14] blackwhite : In my transaction history I see some unknown "fee" today [2016-07-07 15:45:15] rapidtrades : is halving is next week already too late to get in imo [2016-07-07 15:45:26] blackwhite : 0.24 xbt. What is it about? [2016-07-07 15:45:33] rapidtrades : blackwhite: 'hookah&blow fund' ? [2016-07-07 15:45:46] BitMEX_Sam : blackwhite: That was the DPE from the last rebalance [2016-07-07 15:45:55] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory [2016-07-07 15:45:58] rapidtrades : yikes...im sry for ur loss [2016-07-07 15:46:25] blackwhite : so if I arbed then I lost this sum, right? [2016-07-07 15:47:32] rapidtrades : blackwhite: did u arb? [2016-07-07 15:47:37] blackwhite : Looks like xbt went down today [2016-07-07 15:48:00] blackwhite : kinda. i sold swap to hedge my coin [2016-07-07 15:48:11] rapidtrades : then u sold this sum [2016-07-07 15:48:15] rapidtrades : f*Ck [2016-07-07 15:48:22] rapidtrades : then u lost this sum [2016-07-07 15:48:38] blackwhite : some time ago this thing was profitable. i earned some fundings [2016-07-07 15:48:50] blackwhite : now it's loks like not ( [2016-07-07 15:49:06] blackwhite : how do i hedge my coins guys? [2016-07-07 15:49:13] rapidtrades : finex? 3/1? [2016-07-07 15:49:19] rapidtrades : costs like 2% per year [2016-07-07 15:50:15] rapidtrades : or if u want to take the counter-party risk, sell on finex lend it out at 12% [2016-07-07 15:50:27] rapidtrades : as USD [2016-07-07 15:50:41] blackwhite : oh good [2016-07-07 15:51:17] blackwhite : will they broke? ) [2016-07-07 15:51:30] zanza : there was DPE last night? i slept early [2016-07-07 15:52:11] blackwhite : comparing the "fee" to my profit, there was a huge one ((( [2016-07-07 15:52:32] blackwhite : adj rate shows as 28% [2016-07-07 15:52:54] rapidtrades : yeah it was around that [2016-07-07 15:53:33] rapidtrades : ur lucky it was on $40-50 not $150 :) [2016-07-07 15:53:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, there was a very very quick move overnight. [2016-07-07 15:54:07] zanza : at least you get funding rate if you were long :) [2016-07-07 15:54:22] rapidtrades : blackwhite: will finex go broke? prolly not but I wouldn't keep my money in there for 12% [2016-07-07 15:54:59] blackwhite : sure, if you can make it work for more profit [2016-07-07 15:55:11] blackwhite : but not everyone can [2016-07-07 15:56:15] blackwhite : so let's turn this sad "quick move" to a good thing? buy cheap and wait for 1000 [2016-07-07 15:56:40] blackwhite : or wait, it's not cheap enough [2016-07-07 15:56:57] Rado : hey rapidtrades [2016-07-07 15:57:19] zanza : cheap coinz [2016-07-07 15:57:20] Rado : any particular reason for the dump? [2016-07-07 15:57:28] blackwhite : i'm turning to gambling mood after being DPEd from flat [2016-07-07 15:57:48] blackwhite : (net flat) [2016-07-07 15:57:51] rapidtrades : Rado: smone sold a bunch [2016-07-07 15:58:10] Rado : is this 350k sell at 638.03 from liquidation? [2016-07-07 15:58:29] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: Yes [2016-07-07 15:58:30] rapidtrades : blackwhite: u can't make the loss up, sum is gone [2016-07-07 15:58:52] Rado : rapidtrades: if that's true it's a good buy now [2016-07-07 15:59:25] rapidtrades : man oil crashed almost 4% past hour and the stupid sp500 barely fell [2016-07-07 16:00:05] blackwhite : do you own some barrels rapid? [2016-07-07 16:00:21] blackwhite : brexit related? [2016-07-07 16:00:30] rapidtrades : no but im long yen and i need everything to fall apart [2016-07-07 16:00:44] blackwhite : long yen is wise i thinkk [2016-07-07 16:08:49] BuzzLightYear : wouldn't jap's yen fall??? [2016-07-07 16:09:07] esuvari : is this real? is no one really buying eth for more than 2 hours and a half? [2016-07-07 16:10:01] esuvari : oh sorry, not trading for 2,5 hours. not buying is even longer for 4,5 hours :D [2016-07-07 16:10:24] BitMEX_Wally : It's a good buy right now given the funding rate and the ask price [2016-07-07 16:13:51] 1QaZxSw2 : when was the last DPE? [2016-07-07 16:14:00] BuzzLightYear : Rado: it was 1.7 million 4 hrs ago. got eaten and now it's 0.35million [2016-07-07 16:14:13] Rado : cool [2016-07-07 16:14:20] 1QaZxSw2 : ya i think i lost some profit to it [2016-07-07 16:14:40] BuzzLightYear : Rado: wish i can buy all of that wall [2016-07-07 16:14:52] Rado : he he [2016-07-07 16:14:57] Rado : I can help [2016-07-07 16:15:12] BuzzLightYear : nom nom let's eat it [2016-07-07 16:15:34] jung1 : Rado: Hi! [2016-07-07 16:15:42] Rado : hey jung1 [2016-07-07 16:15:46] jung1 : check this https://naphex.rocks/jfx/#!/ [2016-07-07 16:16:58] Rado : cool [2016-07-07 16:17:25] Rado : I was thinking of building a site that will show all my bot and manual trades in real time [2016-07-07 16:17:40] BuzzLightYear : jung1: nice but fishy [2016-07-07 16:18:15] BuzzLightYear : Rado: why would you do that? i wouldn't expose my bot and trading history [2016-07-07 16:18:48] Rado : I could charge for that eventually BuzzLightYear [2016-07-07 16:20:55] BuzzLightYear : Rado: oh i see... [2016-07-07 16:20:58] rapidtrades : negative means longs get paid right [2016-07-07 16:21:06] Rado : yes [2016-07-07 16:21:11] BuzzLightYear : Rado: only if you can show off some good return [2016-07-07 16:21:12] Rado : but it's positive right now [2016-07-07 16:21:24] Rado : I can BuzzLightYear :-) [2016-07-07 16:21:56] BuzzLightYear : Rado: ;) [2016-07-07 16:27:52] Rado : Sep seems good now around 760 [2016-07-07 16:27:55] jung1 : $600 here we go [2016-07-07 16:29:13] Rado : not so fast jung1 [2016-07-07 16:29:32] Rado : if it was that easy I would be billioner by now [2016-07-07 16:29:49] jung1 : me too [2016-07-07 16:29:52] rapidtrades : like i said this morning...no support until 600-610 [2016-07-07 16:30:06] Rado : that doesn't mean it will go there rapidtrades [2016-07-07 16:30:19] rapidtrades : 70% it will go there [2016-07-07 16:30:55] Rado : what timeframe chart are you looking at? [2016-07-07 16:30:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4589 @ 633.52 [2016-07-07 16:31:13] rapidtrades : timeframe doesn't matter for levels [2016-07-07 16:31:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 632.62 [2016-07-07 16:31:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 385 @ 633.04 [2016-07-07 16:31:22] ax : here we gooo [2016-07-07 16:31:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3993 @ 632.39 [2016-07-07 16:31:25] Rado : so how do you know where support is? [2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : HODL HODL HODL! [2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1030 @ 629.58 [2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 186 @ 629.50 [2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 630.24 [2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 629.93 [2016-07-07 16:31:46] macios15 : this is gona be brutal [2016-07-07 16:31:47] rapidtrades : cos it was support on way down...then on way up [2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 629.40 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 629.28 [2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 53514 @ 629.36 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-07-07 16:32:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 909 @ 627.47 [2016-07-07 16:32:38] Rado : over 6% DPE now [2016-07-07 16:34:06] ax : is the liquidation wall moving down now? [2016-07-07 16:34:14] ax : oh there it is [2016-07-07 16:34:22] migz : 600 in sight? [2016-07-07 16:35:24] jung1 : told you [2016-07-07 16:35:58] rapidtrades : so [2016-07-07 16:36:16] jung1 : Rado: have you tried https://tradewave.net? [2016-07-07 16:37:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 34000 @ 627.03 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-07-07 16:37:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13993 @ 626.61 [2016-07-07 16:37:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 143 @ 626.36 [2016-07-07 16:37:45] rapidtrades : my GBP chart https://i.imgur.com/LKnUwoJ.jpg [2016-07-07 16:39:07] null : OMG DPE again [2016-07-07 16:39:44] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03, 634.77 [2016-07-07 16:39:51] rapidtrades : how are u shocked....the LIQ never filled @null [2016-07-07 16:39:59] NukeLaloosh : where's the money coming from??? [2016-07-07 16:40:16] rapidtrades : from rekted ppl [2016-07-07 16:40:33] migz : ha! Halving means half bitcoin price. lmao [2016-07-07 16:40:39] jung1 : yeah' [2016-07-07 16:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 108700 @ 624.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-07-07 16:48:57] migz : Oh boy. [2016-07-07 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 624.22 [2016-07-07 16:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 623.82 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-07 16:50:15] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03, 634.77, 632.30 [2016-07-07 16:50:51] rapidtrades : nice...its moving down [2016-07-07 16:51:06] NukeLaloosh : moving down with what money?? [2016-07-07 16:51:20] NukeLaloosh : well i guess dpe is up to 7% [2016-07-07 16:51:20] rapidtrades : i already told u [2016-07-07 16:51:21] migz : Jow did you know? [2016-07-07 16:51:36] BitMEX_Wally : When positions are liquidated the maintenance margin goes into the fund [2016-07-07 16:51:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10468 @ 623.33 [2016-07-07 16:51:50] BitMEX_Wally : This helps aggress current and future liquidations [2016-07-07 16:52:07] NukeLaloosh : make that 8% [2016-07-07 16:52:09] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hope ur not depleting sept fund for this? [2016-07-07 16:52:24] BuzzLightYear : is REKT a bot? [2016-07-07 16:52:26] NukeLaloosh : take your shorts to XBJ! [2016-07-07 16:52:40] rapidtrades : BuzzLightYear: not he's just a really ast typist [2016-07-07 16:52:45] rapidtrades : fast* [2016-07-07 16:52:49] rapidtrades : also asian [2016-07-07 16:52:57] jung1 : will we recover? [2016-07-07 16:53:11] rapidtrades : we'll see :) [2016-07-07 16:53:15] BuzzLightYear : rapidtrades: oh~ i see [2016-07-07 16:53:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36120 @ 622.22 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-07-07 16:53:48] Rado : Buzz he is jocking [2016-07-07 16:53:54] Rado : it is a bot [2016-07-07 16:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6 @ 621.43 [2016-07-07 16:54:19] mikeh : crazy considering we were moving up just before the dump [2016-07-07 16:54:45] BuzzLightYear : Rado: eh~ thanks ;-) [2016-07-07 16:56:06] jung1 : nice selling pressure on finex [2016-07-07 16:56:25] rapidtrades : what's so nice about it [2016-07-07 16:56:33] jung1 : Im short [2016-07-07 16:56:33] ax : can't believe I fell for the halvening bull talk, lost half my balance :/ glad im shorting now [2016-07-07 16:56:49] jung1 : you should listen bitmex trollbox [2016-07-07 16:57:09] jung1 : in 4yrs from now you will know what to do [2016-07-07 16:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1600 @ 619.26 [2016-07-07 16:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3430 @ 618.87 [2016-07-07 16:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 370 @ 617.34 [2016-07-07 16:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1288 @ 616.43 [2016-07-07 16:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 71997 @ 616.54 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-07-07 16:58:25] ax : how long can we go, how low can we go [2016-07-07 16:58:45] rapidtrades : we're nearing support now [2016-07-07 16:59:19] jung1 : imo we will be somewhere between $0 and ∞ [2016-07-07 16:59:46] ax : 11% dpe [2016-07-07 17:00:10] migz : 600 incoming. [2016-07-07 17:00:14] asdfman : sub 555 [2016-07-07 17:00:20] jung1 : told you! [2016-07-07 17:00:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1070 @ 613.31 [2016-07-07 17:00:31] asdfman : elliot wave smashing into shore [2016-07-07 17:00:46] rapidtrades : support now...let's see how long it holds [2016-07-07 17:00:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 612.35 [2016-07-07 17:01:34] asdfman : A and B finished [2016-07-07 17:01:41] asdfman : and now C incomming [2016-07-07 17:01:44] asdfman : so sub 555 [2016-07-07 17:01:48] macios15 : bounce now [2016-07-07 17:02:02] jung1 : IM keeping my short [2016-07-07 17:02:28] asdfman : 10x short on U16 [2016-07-07 17:02:49] asdfman : not much, but nice anyway [2016-07-07 17:03:09] Rado : Nice call on 610 rapidtrades [2016-07-07 17:03:58] mbaril : Wow nice rebound [2016-07-07 17:04:17] jung1 : not so fast [2016-07-07 17:04:31] mbaril : so now its a bull or bear market [2016-07-07 17:04:35] mbaril : sorry was away for 1 week :P [2016-07-07 17:04:49] Rado : lol jung1 [2016-07-07 17:04:51] jung1 : beull one [2016-07-07 17:04:53] Rado : it was fast [2016-07-07 17:08:42] justinlooking : i have fills that aren't showin gup in fills pane [2016-07-07 17:09:18] jung1 : finex want pump, china want dump [2016-07-07 17:09:33] justinlooking : been ovserving strange behaviour for couple of weeks now [2016-07-07 17:09:59] Rado : check with BitMEX support justinlooking [2016-07-07 17:10:27] Rado : rapidtrades: did you buy on this dip? [2016-07-07 17:10:29] justinlooking : i'm trying Rado! [2016-07-07 17:10:46] rapidtrades : Rado: not yet [2016-07-07 17:10:52] Rado : k [2016-07-07 17:11:06] rapidtrades : waiting to see if it holds [2016-07-07 17:11:12] jung1 : bounce? [2016-07-07 17:11:14] Rado : I got some Sep, but no swap yet [2016-07-07 17:11:36] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Could you give me an example fill that is not appearing? [2016-07-07 17:12:28] justinlooking : Wally: `2016-07-07 17:59:59 XBTUSD Trade Buy 1500 612.00` [2016-07-07 17:14:49] BitMEX_Wally : I see it in Recent Trades `612.00 1500 00:59:59 S` [2016-07-07 17:15:13] justinlooking : yeh i see in trade history, but not in "Fills" pane of orders thingybob [2016-07-07 17:16:37] lockhedge : justinlooking: you maybe had a short disconnect from websockets [2016-07-07 17:16:39] BitMEX_Wally : The fills tab is sorted by order submission time and only shows the last 100 orders [2016-07-07 17:16:43] tscha : interesting price movement the last days [2016-07-07 17:16:45] BitMEX_Wally : That order was submitted at 2016.07.03 17:04:51 UTC [2016-07-07 17:16:50] BitMEX_Wally : So it might have fallen off the bottom [2016-07-07 17:16:59] jung1 : tscha: you are long or short? [2016-07-07 17:17:09] justinlooking : oh right, surely fills should sort by fill time? [2016-07-07 17:17:14] tscha : jung1: flat [2016-07-07 17:17:52] justinlooking : sorting fills by order submission time is not useful :P [2016-07-07 17:18:05] migz : long! 3 green candles in 15min chart [2016-07-07 17:18:40] jung1 : lets wait for 627 [2016-07-07 17:19:15] Rado : maybe we will have a double bottom at $580 an dup from there [2016-07-07 17:19:28] Rado : in the next few days [2016-07-07 17:20:06] jung1 : I don't trust that chinese bastards [2016-07-07 17:20:23] jung1 : Rado: thats my bet [2016-07-07 17:20:33] jung1 : its possible to go under 600 [2016-07-07 17:20:37] jung1 : or even 550 [2016-07-07 17:20:38] migz : i dont like maybe. [2016-07-07 17:21:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 @ 622.40 [2016-07-07 17:21:27] Jj4REAL : rebound looks healthy vs the previous drop [2016-07-07 17:21:55] jung1 : migz: for shure we will be somewhere between $0 and ∞ [2016-07-07 17:22:23] Rado : rapidtrades: where did j8 go? [2016-07-07 17:22:28] lockhedge : tscha: seems that a lot of ppl fear a massive drop of the hashrate after halving. not justified imho, but could become a self fulfilling prophecy [2016-07-07 17:22:30] Rado : did he join sledger? [2016-07-07 17:22:39] justinlooking : holiday [2016-07-07 17:22:59] tscha : interesting [2016-07-07 17:23:03] Rado : holiday? [2016-07-07 17:23:05] Rado : what's that [2016-07-07 17:23:29] Rado : you are connected to the internet no matter where you are [2016-07-07 17:23:30] Rado : ;-) [2016-07-07 17:23:54] tscha : unfortunately I don't have time to follow the drama, but which you some interesting halving weeks, will eventually stop by from time to time [2016-07-07 17:24:02] tscha : which = wish [2016-07-07 17:24:07] migz : massive drop hashrate means massive drop in price as we will wait longer for block confirmation? [2016-07-07 17:24:37] johndoe : depends on what you mean by massive, but yah, that is the fear [2016-07-07 17:24:59] cekseh : Difficulty adjusts with hash power btw [2016-07-07 17:25:02] cekseh : In case anyone forgot [2016-07-07 17:25:06] johndoe : 1mb cap is going to cause a lot of problems [2016-07-07 17:25:10] cekseh : Meaning block time stays at 10m [2016-07-07 17:25:15] johndoe : yeah, cekseh, but that takes 2 weeks to update [2016-07-07 17:25:28] migz : Red candle 15min chart incoming. [2016-07-07 17:25:47] johndoe : so for the first two weeks, we could have some big issues - definitely a concern to be aware of [2016-07-07 17:26:05] johndoe : make sure you pay the right fees during those two weeks, cause they will probably be quite high [2016-07-07 17:26:11] Rado : there will be no issues [2016-07-07 17:26:22] johndoe : its unknowable, imo [2016-07-07 17:26:40] Rado : 4 years ago do you know the equipment used to mine [2016-07-07 17:26:53] Rado : it was way worse that what they have now [2016-07-07 17:26:55] johndoe : 4 years ago, we didnt have a 1mb cap limit that mattered [2016-07-07 17:27:12] jung1 : nice buy support [2016-07-07 17:27:17] Rado : there are already solutions for the 1 MB limit [2016-07-07 17:27:24] Rado : they just need to decide to implement them [2016-07-07 17:27:27] Rado : and they will if needed [2016-07-07 17:27:53] johndoe : the issues are for the first two weeks primarily [2016-07-07 17:28:15] johndoe : so no update in time to matter [2016-07-07 17:28:35] Rado : to tell you the truth I would not mind a drop so I can buy more [2016-07-07 17:28:49] johndoe : well im short right now, so i'd love more falling [2016-07-07 17:28:56] Rado : In the long run these prices will look so cheap people will be wondering why they didn't buy [2016-07-07 17:29:35] johndoe : yeah, i agree, in the long run [2016-07-07 17:29:50] zanza : DPeeeee [2016-07-07 17:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 900 @ 62476.0 [2016-07-07 17:30:46] ax : 62476.0 ? [2016-07-07 17:32:30] justinlooking : ax: XBT = yen [2016-07-07 17:32:34] justinlooking : *XBJ [2016-07-07 17:32:49] asdfman : Yen [2016-07-07 17:34:58] jung1 : looks like we are going to recover pretty fast [2016-07-07 17:35:05] jung1 : maybe not fast [2016-07-07 17:35:45] jung1 : and maybe not recover [2016-07-07 17:35:47] jung1 : :| [2016-07-07 17:37:31] justinlooking : lol [2016-07-07 17:48:18] macios15 : finex gona colapse and then bounce [2016-07-07 17:48:49] RoftheN : Why? [2016-07-07 17:49:18] macios15 : end of bouble? [2016-07-07 17:49:40] migz : Just collapse, like gox, no bounce. [2016-07-07 17:49:54] jung1 : another test of 610 [2016-07-07 17:53:32] Rado : bubble? [2016-07-07 17:53:37] Rado : this is no bubble [2016-07-07 17:54:02] Rado : if it goes to $4000 then you might say it's a bubble [2016-07-07 18:00:30] RoftheN : But people know about bubbles now, so it won't reach 4000 unless some very powerful people want it [2016-07-07 18:00:54] jung1 : yeah [2016-07-07 18:01:01] jung1 : plus there is a lot of lavarage [2016-07-07 18:01:04] jung1 : around [2016-07-07 18:02:18] zanza : DPE gett bigger! [2016-07-07 18:02:47] zanza : `630.00 806164 ` [2016-07-07 18:03:06] rapidtrades : they're literally buying every 10 pips on yen pairs....f aholes [2016-07-07 18:03:09] zanza : `630.00 806164` [2016-07-07 18:03:25] zanza : `630.00 806164` [2016-07-07 18:03:45] jung1 : so what [2016-07-07 18:03:47] rapidtrades : stop [2016-07-07 18:03:49] jung1 : we are going to 630? [2016-07-07 18:03:51] zanza : sis you see that oil crash Rapid? [2016-07-07 18:03:58] rapidtrades : zanza: yea [2016-07-07 18:04:02] zanza : im going knife hunting [2016-07-07 18:04:14] rapidtrades : gl [2016-07-07 18:04:37] rapidtrades : few months ago ppl were freaking about oil falling...guess it doesn;t f matter anymore [2016-07-07 18:04:43] rapidtrades : its one big buying party [2016-07-07 18:04:52] zanza : kyle bass is long oil [2016-07-07 18:05:00] rapidtrades : f him [2016-07-07 18:05:43] rapidtrades : taking a break [2016-07-07 18:06:40] rapidtrades : and f the BOJ [2016-07-07 18:10:36] jung1 : so what are you going to do during halving? [2016-07-07 18:14:07] justinlooking : bless bears [2016-07-07 18:15:26] blackwhite : where can i see next dpe? [2016-07-07 18:16:16] Rado : There is no next doe is there? [2016-07-07 18:16:24] Rado : dpe [2016-07-07 18:16:48] Rado : doesn't it get reset to 0 on rebalancing [2016-07-07 18:17:13] justinlooking : yes but doesn't fil liqs and if price moves against hte liq [2016-07-07 18:17:23] justinlooking : winrars get re-dpe'd [2016-07-07 18:19:27] Rado : Re-doe'd? [2016-07-07 18:19:42] Rado : if the profits are reduced DPE goes to 0 [2016-07-07 18:20:41] justinlooking : yes and that's because the profits are used to move liqs to the rebalance price [2016-07-07 18:21:09] justinlooking : but not to fill them, just make them more attractive (or in this case, less unattractive) [2016-07-07 18:21:09] Rado : right [2016-07-07 18:21:20] jung1 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-07/europes-bank-crisis-arrives-germany-%E2%82%AC29-billion-bremen-landesbank-verge-failure [2016-07-07 18:21:24] jung1 : could be funny tommorow [2016-07-07 18:22:08] Rado : so in 2 hr do we have DPE at 0? [2016-07-07 18:23:00] justinlooking : Rado: r u trolling? [2016-07-07 18:23:15] justinlooking : DPE is at rebalance (17hrs away) [2016-07-07 18:23:40] Rado : sorry 17 hr [2016-07-07 18:24:14] justinlooking : if nothing changes between now and then, yes profits will get 8% DPE, and there will be a 700k @ 618, but yes , estimated DPE will reset to zero again [2016-07-07 18:24:19] Rado : Long time until then [2016-07-07 18:24:41] Rado : thanks [2016-07-07 18:25:11] justinlooking : did Rektbot miss some Rekt? it was 350k a while ago, seems to have doubled but not announced [2016-07-07 18:27:33] BitMEX_Wally : It announced it [2016-07-07 18:28:10] BitMEX_Wally : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36120 @ 622.22 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-07-07 18:28:24] BitMEX_Wally : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 71997 @ 616.54 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-07-07 18:30:11] justinlooking : ah ok thanks, time to lay off the pipe a bit i think [2016-07-07 18:33:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 260 @ 62679.0 [2016-07-07 18:33:33] pgpenc : how much should I buy? [2016-07-07 18:33:42] migz : 60% of port =P [2016-07-07 18:34:11] rapidtrades : cmon man...new lows for sp500, new lows for oil, new lows for yuan...wtf Yen u shit [2016-07-07 18:35:10] migz : all aboard the gold and bitcoin train! [2016-07-07 18:35:25] pgpenc : bullish? [2016-07-07 18:41:57] migz : 30% chance bullish, still a gamble though. [2016-07-07 18:43:37] pgpenc : lol, figured so, ... but this will go to the moon, no? [2016-07-07 18:45:06] Skitrx : 30% chance? Where did you pull that from [2016-07-07 18:45:07] jung1 : if moon will be on the floor [2016-07-07 18:45:30] jung1 : Skitrx: 3/10 [2016-07-07 18:46:02] Skitrx : we need upward fomo [2016-07-07 18:49:42] migz : trollbox psychology. lmao [2016-07-07 19:00:14] justinlooking : must resist futball betting [2016-07-07 19:02:35] Rado : I am watching France - Germany right now [2016-07-07 19:04:03] ax : are liquidations based on the last traded price or on the mark price? [2016-07-07 19:04:16] BitMEX_Wally : ax: Liquidations are triggered bas on the mark price [2016-07-07 19:04:20] Tetsuo : Based on bullish stubborness [2016-07-07 19:08:13] pgpenc : ooh yes, we need some bullish stubbornness right now. Where did they go? [2016-07-07 19:12:52] pgpenc : jung1, have the house, car, and the cat on the trigger. But where do u think the floor will be? [2016-07-07 19:20:33] pgpenc : I think REKT got the bulls? la, la, la, la, la, ...! [2016-07-07 19:32:17] nip : another dpe? its only down like $15 [2016-07-07 19:33:09] cekseh : Finex and okc creeping opposite directions again =D [2016-07-07 19:34:31] pgpenc : what do dpe mean? Anything prefixed dp means duel prenetration right? [2016-07-07 19:35:29] pgpenc : f'ink autocorrect! [2016-07-07 19:37:39] justinlooking : it means stops are guaranteed but profit aren't :P [2016-07-07 19:40:38] pgpenc : DPE = (S)tops (A)re (G)guaranteed but (P)rofit (A)ren't = SAGP? :) [2016-07-07 19:41:27] pgpenc : Dynamic Profit Equalisation is what you mean? ;) [2016-07-07 19:41:47] elmorte : no, duel penetration was right [2016-07-07 19:41:55] pgpenc : lol! [2016-07-07 19:42:08] pgpenc : I thought so! ;) [2016-07-07 19:45:44] elmorte : Bitmex....you should really have like an alert: like **You are about to be logged out. Did you really mean to leave an open order you numbnuts?** [2016-07-07 19:47:09] pgpenc : what is an "open order", surely you place the order or you don't? [2016-07-07 19:47:59] elmorte : open order is exactly what it sounds like [2016-07-07 19:48:25] elmorte : An order that you placed...while you were logged in and monitoring the market... [2016-07-07 19:48:35] elmorte : And subsequently forgot all about it [2016-07-07 19:49:34] elmorte : Now I'm wondering whether to cover on spot market...while all I wanna do is finish my wine and watch the footy :( [2016-07-07 19:53:22] pgpenc : elmorte, that's just lazy dude! [2016-07-07 19:53:47] pgpenc : you know better ;) [2016-07-07 19:55:19] elmorte : I'm not denying that. Just that if they reduced the leverage to protect us from ourselves, this is a logical extension :) [2016-07-07 19:55:31] elmorte : in these volatile times [2016-07-07 19:56:45] pgpenc : It's a volitile market! U need spoon feeding baby? [2016-07-07 19:57:36] elmorte : no, I eat thru a straw [2016-07-07 20:00:41] pgpenc : You up much today in % terms? If so, I think your a "Master Trader" dispite your disabilities! :) [2016-07-07 20:01:40] ax : finex is ready for liftoff [2016-07-07 20:03:17] migz : mark price is base on finex or stamp? [2016-07-07 20:03:34] elmorte : kaiko bitmex [2016-07-07 20:03:39] elmorte : google it [2016-07-07 20:03:50] pgpenc : Dude neither! Do some reading! [2016-07-07 20:03:54] elmorte : and adjusted for funding [2016-07-07 20:05:24] migz : i see.. [2016-07-07 20:05:38] elmorte : ...dead ppl? [2016-07-07 20:07:44] ax : I see the devil. back to 666 [2016-07-07 20:08:49] elmorte : One can only pray.....with goat blood [2016-07-07 20:09:15] elmorte : Fuck, I finished my wine...y'all are about to get a whole less interesting :( [2016-07-07 20:13:44] RoftheN : so I should put all my money on a x50 long? [2016-07-07 20:14:27] elmorte : if you gotta ask, you ain't doing it right [2016-07-07 20:15:05] elmorte : shoot first, questions later [2016-07-07 20:15:35] migz : Do x35 =P [2016-07-07 20:16:37] justinlooking : finex fibs: https://i.imgur.com/S7mNC4x.png [2016-07-07 20:17:50] zanza : elmorte is a seasoned pro you can tell [2016-07-07 20:18:05] pgpenc : U celebrating elmorte? U Bull or bear right now? Or maybe too much with grape? [2016-07-07 20:18:43] rapidtrades : Hedge funder Brett Barna threw a wild “Wolf of Wall Street”-style Hamptons party — awash with Champagne, scores of bikini-clad women and costumed gun-toting midgets [2016-07-07 20:19:00] rapidtrades : https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/wall-street-hedge-funder-trashes-20m-hamptons-home-2016-07-07 [2016-07-07 20:21:26] elmorte : too much with grape? is there such a thing? [2016-07-07 20:21:48] pgpenc : Lol! Am [2016-07-07 20:22:00] pgpenc : on the cider myself [2016-07-07 20:22:21] elmorte : nice. I love it, but the calories are too much for me [2016-07-07 20:22:55] pgpenc : am only 190% up