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[2016-07-07 13:12:00] BuzzLightYear : nom nom the walls get eaten
[2016-07-07 13:12:13] BuzzLightYear : gosh that's smart move
[2016-07-07 13:12:18] boolander : nom nom nom
[2016-07-07 13:13:15] rapidtrades : Jj4REAL: the liquidations are done by limits instead of getting dumped on the market yes
[2016-07-07 13:13:20] rapidtrades : that's part of the problem
[2016-07-07 13:13:59] boolander : optically yeah. freaks people out
[2016-07-07 13:14:11] Jj4REAL : but thats fucking massive right? like over 2 days total volume? Its hard to see how much is actually traded here
[2016-07-07 13:14:32] Jj4REAL : haaha wtf "gently caressing"?
[2016-07-07 13:15:07] johndoe : f-word censor?
[2016-07-07 13:15:12] boolander : that's probably one of the best censorships i've ever seen
[2016-07-07 13:15:14] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah we're a bunch of prudes
[2016-07-07 13:15:18] Jj4REAL : oooh i see
[2016-07-07 13:15:18] boolander : it's poifect
[2016-07-07 13:15:29] BitMEX_Sam : :D :gun:
[2016-07-07 13:16:07] johndoe : was pretty surprised when my o-k-c-o-i-n was censored into "the woodchipper"
[2016-07-07 13:16:27] johndoe : but i've seen the meme
[2016-07-07 13:17:05] Jj4REAL : so I guess the liquidation order will move up if the market rebounds right?
[2016-07-07 13:17:27] rapidtrades : nope it stays right there or moves down (rarely)
[2016-07-07 13:18:14] rapidtrades : if u keep moving it higher it may never fill :)
[2016-07-07 13:18:40] Jj4REAL : so in 8 hours or whenever settlment is what happens to it?
[2016-07-07 13:19:21] rapidtrades : in 23 hours it will move to the market price after delivering another DPE
[2016-07-07 13:19:57] boolander : hence, the .01c chiseler is doing nobody any good deed.
[2016-07-07 13:20:23] boolander : but, i digress. each to his own
[2016-07-07 13:20:33] Jj4REAL : i really need to reread how this product works :)
[2016-07-07 13:20:41] boolander : no you don't
[2016-07-07 13:20:43] boolander : jump in
[2016-07-07 13:20:46] rapidtrades : isn't it better to just close the LIQS instead of taking them to market price.... @BitMEX_Sam @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-07-07 13:20:50] boolander : live n learn ;-)
[2016-07-07 13:21:12] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: We aggress beyond market price
[2016-07-07 13:21:21] rapidtrades : ah i see
[2016-07-07 13:21:24] boolander : Wall-E
[2016-07-07 13:21:41] rapidtrades : still isn't it better to just close em and avoid risk of rolling DPEs
[2016-07-07 13:22:36] rapidtrades : at rebalance i mean
[2016-07-07 13:23:01] rapidtrades : it will also stop shitheads for liquidating their orders only to buy them up cheaper later
[2016-07-07 13:23:01] BitMEX_Wally : If we had aggressed that 1.7m order into the market we would probably have gone all the way down to $600 and had a 80% DPE rate
[2016-07-07 13:23:37] rapidtrades : no....at rebalance the DPE is applied and that means the order has 0% DPE at current market price right
[2016-07-07 13:23:42] Jj4REAL : well i had my short to cover at 600 so woulda been better off for me
[2016-07-07 13:23:46] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: there is a huge fee on my cash rebalance, that should not be there, i wonder whats going on
[2016-07-07 13:23:53] rapidtrades : so why not close it then at 0 loss for the exchange instead of leeaving it open
[2016-07-07 13:24:01] BitMEX_Wally : yerb: That fee is the DPE
[2016-07-07 13:24:22] boolander : but, covering yer short at 600 and giving back 80% profits would suk
[2016-07-07 13:24:31] yerb : wtf happened again, that 1.5 mil liquidation?
[2016-07-07 13:24:33] rapidtrades : close it = removing it from the book without a counterparty
[2016-07-07 13:24:40] BitMEX_Wally : yerb: 28% DPE
[2016-07-07 13:24:55] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-07-07 13:25:17] rapidtrades : i'm prolly missing smth with that idea..anyone tell me if im wrong
[2016-07-07 13:25:46] johndoe : so if BTC rallies on the exchanges anytime soon to like $650+, the wall will inevitably break and everyone will be happy? Shorters will be happy because they can get out at this low price, and buyers because they can get in at this artificially low price.
[2016-07-07 13:25:48] NukeLaloosh : that is essentially my question from earlier re transparency
[2016-07-07 13:26:02] rapidtrades : johndoe: yes, if
[2016-07-07 13:26:12] Jj4REAL : it seems like it would be kinda safe to go 25X short here and cover at the liquidation price if the next move goes up?
[2016-07-07 13:26:20] boolander : you probably need to do some kind of VWAP from liquidation time to rebalance and distribute accordingly based on position sizes/leverage
[2016-07-07 13:26:37] boolander : #timestamp liquidation
[2016-07-07 13:26:44] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: damnit, there must be something we can do about irresponsible trading like that, why dont you implement higher margin requirements above 300k positions?
[2016-07-07 13:28:47] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: We are talking about that internally right now
[2016-07-07 13:28:49] yerb : some kind of progressive margin requirement above certain position sizes
[2016-07-07 13:28:57] rapidtrades : that's a start but its easily avoidable by bad actors
[2016-07-07 13:29:40] rapidtrades : once u do that u have to also monitor account for suspicious behavior like similar trades and LIQ at similar times
[2016-07-07 13:29:46] yerb : we shouldn't suffer because of idiots who trade like that
[2016-07-07 13:30:08] Jj4REAL : is there a maintenence margin like at finex?
[2016-07-07 13:30:26] rapidtrades : on the flip side, idiots like that is why we get massive premiums/discounts here from time to time :)
[2016-07-07 13:30:40] boolander : ^^
[2016-07-07 13:30:43] boolander : wild wild west
[2016-07-07 13:30:49] boolander : wild wild east
[2016-07-07 13:30:49] yerb : yeah, but here go my sweet profits :(
[2016-07-07 13:30:54] NukeLaloosh : there is no solution to the problem of non-existent margin unable to cover a massive hole. the only amelioration is a larger insurance fund, or lower margin, but those each have limits and costs
[2016-07-07 13:30:59] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, maintenance margin is 0.5% on XBTUSD - see contract specifications
[2016-07-07 13:33:48] boolander : yerb - i lose sweet profits 40% of the time
[2016-07-07 13:34:21] Jj4REAL : hmm I see the problem :)
[2016-07-07 13:34:37] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: When do you guys think you implement some changes?
[2016-07-07 13:35:14] BitMEX_Sam : Will be some development time although we're part of the way there. If we change risk limits we will give plenty of notice.
[2016-07-07 13:36:18] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: I don't care about the notice, I want it ASAP. lol
[2016-07-07 13:36:42] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: Could it be a matter of days?
[2016-07-07 13:36:55] BitMEX_Sam : Not likely, these things require testing
[2016-07-07 13:38:01] blurrrrrp : I see. GL.
[2016-07-07 13:38:47] yerb : boolander: you loose profits due to DPE or your bad trading?
[2016-07-07 13:39:02] boolander : was just trying to make u feel good
[2016-07-07 13:39:03] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Sam: any quick guidance/equation you can give us to calculate DPE against current mark/spot?
[2016-07-07 13:39:18] jung1 : http://arcade.city/ decentralized uber
[2016-07-07 13:39:20] jung1 : awesome!
[2016-07-07 13:39:24] BitMEX_Sam : DPE is based on liquidations, you can't calculate it based on current pricing
[2016-07-07 13:39:28] boolander : only lose when i try and trade on holiday on my mobile
[2016-07-07 13:39:33] BitMEX_Sam : We show a live rate on the left.
[2016-07-07 13:39:49] NukeLaloosh : it shows 0%
[2016-07-07 13:40:26] NukeLaloosh : ...with a 445k liqn order $2 outside market
[2016-07-07 13:40:26] rapidtrades : 400k is not as bad as 1.5 mil :)
[2016-07-07 13:41:32] boolander : yeah, kudos getting that down to manageable with one rapid rip
[2016-07-07 13:42:46] boolander : calling my DB banker right now about a HELOC to takeout this balance of 400k...
[2016-07-07 13:43:25] johndoe : lol
[2016-07-07 13:43:28] NukeLaloosh : boolander: +2
[2016-07-07 13:43:42] Jj4REAL : so is the current profit adjustment visible somewhere?
[2016-07-07 13:44:08] BitMEX_Sam : Jj4REAL: Yes, it's the green 0% on the left by the current price
[2016-07-07 13:44:30] Jj4REAL : sweet thanks
[2016-07-07 13:45:28] Jj4REAL : I really like this trading engine btw; its so much nicer than BFX
[2016-07-07 13:47:43] rapidtrades : its certainly faster that's for sure
[2016-07-07 13:49:37] johndoe : yeah it is a lot faster. also nice to have chat :) - especially because bitmex people are here to help and listen
[2016-07-07 13:50:57] Jj4REAL : Its fucking sexy :)
[2016-07-07 13:54:04] jung1 : check this
[2016-07-07 13:54:06] jung1 : https://naphex.rocks/jfx/#!/
[2016-07-07 13:54:11] jung1 : I know that you like me
[2016-07-07 13:56:21] boolander : Jj4real - this troll box is a wealth of knowledge - they will learned you quick - esp rapid
[2016-07-07 13:57:10] jung1 : true that
[2016-07-07 13:57:37] boolander : jungster has the deepest links to up and coming potential coinage
[2016-07-07 13:57:53] jung1 : we are professionals here and bitmex pay us for support
[2016-07-07 13:58:00] boolander : haha
[2016-07-07 13:58:37] boolander : at a minimum, you can have a rational / logical conversation in this trollbox
[2016-07-07 13:58:48] jung1 : there is also nice guy called REKTBOT and he is sitting here and staring at orderbox to post every liquidation here
[2016-07-07 13:59:04] jung1 : boolander: *if you ignore rapid
[2016-07-07 13:59:31] boolander : haha. bait!
[2016-07-07 13:59:34] Jj4REAL : haha cheers
[2016-07-07 14:00:45] johndoe : yah, i honestly thought REKT was a really bad-trading whale at first who kept posting everytime he lost a lot. hah. i'd always get ready to take the other side of his liquidated trade
[2016-07-07 14:01:07] johndoe : wanted to know how he posted each loss with that formatting
[2016-07-07 14:01:18] jung1 : btw its not a bad idea to write a bot that trade against rekt
[2016-07-07 14:03:01] Jj4REAL : yeah taking a short at the liquidated long sell price seems like a nobrainer; cant quite see what risk is there if the marker goes against you
[2016-07-07 14:03:16] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03
[2016-07-07 14:03:48] jung1 : but rekt is when price drop 10-15$
[2016-07-07 14:03:53] Jj4REAL : oh that; it does move
[2016-07-07 14:04:09] NukeLaloosh : what happened to no more agressing?—whatever tf agressing means
[2016-07-07 14:04:09] jung1 : when you go long right after rekt its quite possible to make profit
[2016-07-07 14:04:42] NukeLaloosh : where is this money coming from?
[2016-07-07 14:04:47] boolander : if momentum changes though and he gets filled, the mark is usually trading at a premium. so, shorting not so risk-free in that sense
[2016-07-07 14:05:09] jung1 : trading is not free-risk
[2016-07-07 14:05:28] Jj4REAL : how quick is half a mil going to fill round here if the price moves up 5%?
[2016-07-07 14:05:48] rapidtrades : 1 min
[2016-07-07 14:05:52] boolander : i'd be a buyer if that was the case
[2016-07-07 14:06:03] zanza : whoa what happened to the price?
[2016-07-07 14:06:30] Jj4REAL : is there some way to see the actual trade vol on the TV chart?
[2016-07-07 14:07:21] jung1 : zanza: bitcoin is dead
[2016-07-07 14:08:36] boolander : jungster shared this link awhile ago Jj4REAL - it's beta - but has a good base to play around with: http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/price_volume/1h/USD/bitfinex?r=minute&t=lb&vu=curr
[2016-07-07 14:10:48] Jj4REAL : but isnt that bitfinex? Im curious about the bitmex XBT voume, the candles on TV dont have a scale attached
[2016-07-07 14:11:05] rapidtrades : finally some risk aversion back in the markets
[2016-07-07 14:11:44] Jj4REAL : ooh there it goes
[2016-07-07 14:11:48] boolander : that chart is flex for all crypto exchanges. the bitmex XBT charts are...meh.
[2016-07-07 14:12:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 1 @ 760.99 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-07 14:15:35] jung1 : Hello REKT!
[2016-07-07 14:16:15] NukeLaloosh : friendly reminder: no DPE on the XBJ! you don't even need to like sushi! or bukkake!
[2016-07-07 14:17:50] Mr Blue : NukeLaloosh: cool +1
[2016-07-07 14:19:43] BitMEX_Wally : Funding rate on ETHXBT is 0.19% so longs will get paid. The offer is currently below mark price so good time to buy
[2016-07-07 14:19:53] BitMEX_Wally : -0.19%
[2016-07-07 14:20:35] boolander : Mmm bukaki
[2016-07-07 14:21:12] Jj4REAL : haha yeah eth is cheap; sounds like /r/ethtrader talk
[2016-07-07 14:23:21] boolander : cheap can get cheaper
[2016-07-07 14:23:31] boolander : ETH is wounded
[2016-07-07 14:23:42] boolander : tread lightly
[2016-07-07 14:24:35] NukeLaloosh : btw, this continual moving of the LIQN/DPE order is fucking my upcoming long funding
[2016-07-07 14:24:39] boolander : i have no exposure to it. have been long(before DAO debacle) and short at times. -0- at mo
[2016-07-07 14:25:38] Jj4REAL : mm wounded bull
[2016-07-07 14:25:56] boolander : trade it. don't marry it
[2016-07-07 14:26:13] boolander : until more clarity/information
[2016-07-07 14:26:14] rapidtrades : u know what they say...a 90% loss is 80% after losing half
[2016-07-07 14:26:19] rapidtrades : or whatever...
[2016-07-07 14:26:34] boolander : 70% of the time, i win every time!
[2016-07-07 14:28:16] rapidtrades : if u buy smth when its 80% and it continues to go to 90% u lose half
[2016-07-07 14:28:27] rapidtrades : 80% of its peak
[2016-07-07 14:29:22] rapidtrades : there's a better way of saying it but im an idiot
[2016-07-07 14:29:34] Jj4REAL : think ive lost 5/5 trades at eth/btc staying clear
[2016-07-07 14:29:42] boolander : 100% of wall street doesn't get it rapid
[2016-07-07 14:30:33] Jj4REAL : anyone seen the forecaster?
[2016-07-07 14:32:59] boolander : nope. reading "superforeasting: the art and science of predicting" at moment.
[2016-07-07 14:33:50] boolander : *superforecasting
[2016-07-07 14:57:20] zanza : was that big dump China or Finex?
[2016-07-07 14:59:16] rapidtrades : well finex went down more but micmix said 'okc turned on their dumpbot'
[2016-07-07 15:02:38] rapidtrades : oil just crashed
[2016-07-07 15:03:56] jung1 : 24h before halving there was 1/3price drop on litecoin
[2016-07-07 15:04:16] rapidtrades : litecoin price crashed well before halving sir
[2016-07-07 15:08:48] jung1 : konw that
[2016-07-07 15:09:00] rapidtrades : i guess u could argue that bitcoin's drop to $550 was that crash
[2016-07-07 15:09:14] jung1 : but its not immpossible to hit even 550 tommorow
[2016-07-07 15:09:38] rapidtrades : litecoin slowly recovered after that crash tho....looks like halving made a floor in the price
[2016-07-07 15:10:01] rapidtrades : if u look at monthly charts
[2016-07-07 15:15:30] rapidtrades : when was dogecoin halving
[2016-07-07 15:18:48] jung1 : necer
[2016-07-07 15:18:57] jung1 : after 600k block there is no limit
[2016-07-07 15:19:01] jung1 : never
[2016-07-07 15:19:30] zanza : the price was always floating up slowly, then getting smacked down
[2016-07-07 15:20:28] rapidtrades : jung1: i remember 1 halving
[2016-07-07 15:21:27] jung1 : yeah
[2016-07-07 15:22:08] jung1 : btw I was looking for something on my old email and I found instawallet registration mail
[2016-07-07 15:22:18] jung1 : I lost over 70btc back in the days
[2016-07-07 15:22:24] jung1 : [*]
[2016-07-07 15:22:31] rapidtrades : brutal
[2016-07-07 15:22:41] zanza : sorry bro
[2016-07-07 15:22:47] rapidtrades : that was run by that scammer what his name
[2016-07-07 15:22:56] rapidtrades : one of the first scammer in btc
[2016-07-07 15:23:08] jung1 : dunno
[2016-07-07 15:23:49] jung1 : what will not kill you make you stronger and it was liek 2013
[2016-07-07 15:24:17] rapidtrades : much weaker yuan only thing that can save bitcoin now
[2016-07-07 15:25:53] jung1 : Im thinking of go long on monero during halving
[2016-07-07 15:26:19] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
[2016-07-07 15:26:23] rapidtrades : when is it
[2016-07-07 15:27:08] jung1 : during bitcoin halving
[2016-07-07 15:27:23] jung1 : even theymos recommend it
[2016-07-07 15:29:35] rapidtrades : what date
[2016-07-07 15:34:20] rapidtrades : jung1: !!!
[2016-07-07 15:34:35] jung1 : what
[2016-07-07 15:34:35] jung1 : bitcoin halving is in saturday
[2016-07-07 15:34:59] rapidtrades : what about monero
[2016-07-07 15:37:09] zanza : monero halving is next week
[2016-07-07 15:37:30] zanza : if theymos reccomends it, must be legit
[2016-07-07 15:37:38] jung1 : #irony
[2016-07-07 15:43:25] rapidtrades : dam btce is having none of this rally...626
[2016-07-07 15:44:27] zanza : btce is always behind
[2016-07-07 15:44:53] blackwhite : hi bitmex
[2016-07-07 15:45:14] blackwhite : In my transaction history I see some unknown "fee" today
[2016-07-07 15:45:15] rapidtrades : is halving is next week already too late to get in imo
[2016-07-07 15:45:26] blackwhite : 0.24 xbt. What is it about?
[2016-07-07 15:45:33] rapidtrades : blackwhite: 'hookah&blow fund' ?
[2016-07-07 15:45:46] BitMEX_Sam : blackwhite: That was the DPE from the last rebalance
[2016-07-07 15:45:55] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-07-07 15:45:58] rapidtrades : yikes...im sry for ur loss
[2016-07-07 15:46:25] blackwhite : so if I arbed then I lost this sum, right?
[2016-07-07 15:47:32] rapidtrades : blackwhite: did u arb?
[2016-07-07 15:47:37] blackwhite : Looks like xbt went down today
[2016-07-07 15:48:00] blackwhite : kinda. i sold swap to hedge my coin
[2016-07-07 15:48:11] rapidtrades : then u sold this sum
[2016-07-07 15:48:15] rapidtrades : f*Ck
[2016-07-07 15:48:22] rapidtrades : then u lost this sum
[2016-07-07 15:48:38] blackwhite : some time ago this thing was profitable. i earned some fundings
[2016-07-07 15:48:50] blackwhite : now it's loks like not (
[2016-07-07 15:49:06] blackwhite : how do i hedge my coins guys?
[2016-07-07 15:49:13] rapidtrades : finex? 3/1?
[2016-07-07 15:49:19] rapidtrades : costs like 2% per year
[2016-07-07 15:50:15] rapidtrades : or if u want to take the counter-party risk, sell on finex lend it out at 12%
[2016-07-07 15:50:27] rapidtrades : as USD
[2016-07-07 15:50:41] blackwhite : oh good
[2016-07-07 15:51:17] blackwhite : will they broke? )
[2016-07-07 15:51:30] zanza : there was DPE last night? i slept early
[2016-07-07 15:52:11] blackwhite : comparing the "fee" to my profit, there was a huge one (((
[2016-07-07 15:52:32] blackwhite : adj rate shows as 28%
[2016-07-07 15:52:54] rapidtrades : yeah it was around that
[2016-07-07 15:53:33] rapidtrades : ur lucky it was on $40-50 not $150 :)
[2016-07-07 15:53:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, there was a very very quick move overnight.
[2016-07-07 15:54:07] zanza : at least you get funding rate if you were long :)
[2016-07-07 15:54:22] rapidtrades : blackwhite: will finex go broke? prolly not but I wouldn't keep my money in there for 12%
[2016-07-07 15:54:59] blackwhite : sure, if you can make it work for more profit
[2016-07-07 15:55:11] blackwhite : but not everyone can
[2016-07-07 15:56:15] blackwhite : so let's turn this sad "quick move" to a good thing? buy cheap and wait for 1000
[2016-07-07 15:56:40] blackwhite : or wait, it's not cheap enough
[2016-07-07 15:56:57] Rado : hey rapidtrades
[2016-07-07 15:57:19] zanza : cheap coinz
[2016-07-07 15:57:20] Rado : any particular reason for the dump?
[2016-07-07 15:57:28] blackwhite : i'm turning to gambling mood after being DPEd from flat
[2016-07-07 15:57:48] blackwhite : (net flat)
[2016-07-07 15:57:51] rapidtrades : Rado: smone sold a bunch
[2016-07-07 15:58:10] Rado : is this 350k sell at 638.03 from liquidation?
[2016-07-07 15:58:29] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: Yes
[2016-07-07 15:58:30] rapidtrades : blackwhite: u can't make the loss up, sum is gone
[2016-07-07 15:58:52] Rado : rapidtrades: if that's true it's a good buy now
[2016-07-07 15:59:25] rapidtrades : man oil crashed almost 4% past hour and the stupid sp500 barely fell
[2016-07-07 16:00:05] blackwhite : do you own some barrels rapid?
[2016-07-07 16:00:21] blackwhite : brexit related?
[2016-07-07 16:00:30] rapidtrades : no but im long yen and i need everything to fall apart
[2016-07-07 16:00:44] blackwhite : long yen is wise i thinkk
[2016-07-07 16:08:49] BuzzLightYear : wouldn't jap's yen fall???
[2016-07-07 16:09:07] esuvari : is this real? is no one really buying eth for more than 2 hours and a half?
[2016-07-07 16:10:01] esuvari : oh sorry, not trading for 2,5 hours. not buying is even longer for 4,5 hours :D
[2016-07-07 16:10:24] BitMEX_Wally : It's a good buy right now given the funding rate and the ask price
[2016-07-07 16:13:51] 1QaZxSw2 : when was the last DPE?
[2016-07-07 16:14:00] BuzzLightYear : Rado: it was 1.7 million 4 hrs ago. got eaten and now it's 0.35million
[2016-07-07 16:14:13] Rado : cool
[2016-07-07 16:14:20] 1QaZxSw2 : ya i think i lost some profit to it
[2016-07-07 16:14:40] BuzzLightYear : Rado: wish i can buy all of that wall
[2016-07-07 16:14:52] Rado : he he
[2016-07-07 16:14:57] Rado : I can help
[2016-07-07 16:15:12] BuzzLightYear : nom nom let's eat it
[2016-07-07 16:15:34] jung1 : Rado: Hi!
[2016-07-07 16:15:42] Rado : hey jung1
[2016-07-07 16:15:46] jung1 : check this https://naphex.rocks/jfx/#!/
[2016-07-07 16:16:58] Rado : cool
[2016-07-07 16:17:25] Rado : I was thinking of building a site that will show all my bot and manual trades in real time
[2016-07-07 16:17:40] BuzzLightYear : jung1: nice but fishy
[2016-07-07 16:18:15] BuzzLightYear : Rado: why would you do that? i wouldn't expose my bot and trading history
[2016-07-07 16:18:48] Rado : I could charge for that eventually BuzzLightYear
[2016-07-07 16:20:55] BuzzLightYear : Rado: oh i see...
[2016-07-07 16:20:58] rapidtrades : negative means longs get paid right
[2016-07-07 16:21:06] Rado : yes
[2016-07-07 16:21:11] BuzzLightYear : Rado: only if you can show off some good return
[2016-07-07 16:21:12] Rado : but it's positive right now
[2016-07-07 16:21:24] Rado : I can BuzzLightYear :-)
[2016-07-07 16:21:56] BuzzLightYear : Rado: ;)
[2016-07-07 16:27:52] Rado : Sep seems good now around 760
[2016-07-07 16:27:55] jung1 : $600 here we go
[2016-07-07 16:29:13] Rado : not so fast jung1
[2016-07-07 16:29:32] Rado : if it was that easy I would be billioner by now
[2016-07-07 16:29:49] jung1 : me too
[2016-07-07 16:29:52] rapidtrades : like i said this morning...no support until 600-610
[2016-07-07 16:30:06] Rado : that doesn't mean it will go there rapidtrades
[2016-07-07 16:30:19] rapidtrades : 70% it will go there
[2016-07-07 16:30:55] Rado : what timeframe chart are you looking at?
[2016-07-07 16:30:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4589 @ 633.52
[2016-07-07 16:31:13] rapidtrades : timeframe doesn't matter for levels
[2016-07-07 16:31:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 632.62
[2016-07-07 16:31:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 385 @ 633.04
[2016-07-07 16:31:22] ax : here we gooo
[2016-07-07 16:31:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3993 @ 632.39
[2016-07-07 16:31:25] Rado : so how do you know where support is?
[2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1030 @ 629.58
[2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 186 @ 629.50
[2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 630.24
[2016-07-07 16:31:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 629.93
[2016-07-07 16:31:46] macios15 : this is gona be brutal
[2016-07-07 16:31:47] rapidtrades : cos it was support on way down...then on way up
[2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 629.40 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 629.28
[2016-07-07 16:31:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 53514 @ 629.36 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-07 16:32:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 909 @ 627.47
[2016-07-07 16:32:38] Rado : over 6% DPE now
[2016-07-07 16:34:06] ax : is the liquidation wall moving down now?
[2016-07-07 16:34:14] ax : oh there it is
[2016-07-07 16:34:22] migz : 600 in sight?
[2016-07-07 16:35:24] jung1 : told you
[2016-07-07 16:35:58] rapidtrades : so
[2016-07-07 16:36:16] jung1 : Rado: have you tried https://tradewave.net?
[2016-07-07 16:37:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 34000 @ 627.03 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-07 16:37:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13993 @ 626.61
[2016-07-07 16:37:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 143 @ 626.36
[2016-07-07 16:37:45] rapidtrades : my GBP chart https://i.imgur.com/LKnUwoJ.jpg
[2016-07-07 16:39:07] null : OMG DPE again
[2016-07-07 16:39:44] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03, 634.77
[2016-07-07 16:39:51] rapidtrades : how are u shocked....the LIQ never filled @null
[2016-07-07 16:39:59] NukeLaloosh : where's the money coming from???
[2016-07-07 16:40:16] rapidtrades : from rekted ppl
[2016-07-07 16:40:33] migz : ha! Halving means half bitcoin price. lmao
[2016-07-07 16:40:39] jung1 : yeah'
[2016-07-07 16:47:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 108700 @ 624.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-07 16:48:57] migz : Oh boy.
[2016-07-07 16:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 624.22
[2016-07-07 16:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 623.82 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-07 16:50:15] NukeLaloosh : LIQN ORDER PRICE HISTORY: 645.05, 644.55 --(rebalance price) 643.69, 641.34, 639.07, 638.03, 634.77, 632.30
[2016-07-07 16:50:51] rapidtrades : nice...its moving down
[2016-07-07 16:51:06] NukeLaloosh : moving down with what money??
[2016-07-07 16:51:20] NukeLaloosh : well i guess dpe is up to 7%
[2016-07-07 16:51:20] rapidtrades : i already told u
[2016-07-07 16:51:21] migz : Jow did you know?
[2016-07-07 16:51:36] BitMEX_Wally : When positions are liquidated the maintenance margin goes into the fund
[2016-07-07 16:51:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10468 @ 623.33
[2016-07-07 16:51:50] BitMEX_Wally : This helps aggress current and future liquidations
[2016-07-07 16:52:07] NukeLaloosh : make that 8%
[2016-07-07 16:52:09] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hope ur not depleting sept fund for this?
[2016-07-07 16:52:24] BuzzLightYear : is REKT a bot?
[2016-07-07 16:52:26] NukeLaloosh : take your shorts to XBJ!
[2016-07-07 16:52:40] rapidtrades : BuzzLightYear: not he's just a really ast typist
[2016-07-07 16:52:45] rapidtrades : fast*
[2016-07-07 16:52:49] rapidtrades : also asian
[2016-07-07 16:52:57] jung1 : will we recover?
[2016-07-07 16:53:11] rapidtrades : we'll see :)
[2016-07-07 16:53:15] BuzzLightYear : rapidtrades: oh~ i see
[2016-07-07 16:53:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36120 @ 622.22 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-07 16:53:48] Rado : Buzz he is jocking
[2016-07-07 16:53:54] Rado : it is a bot
[2016-07-07 16:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6 @ 621.43
[2016-07-07 16:54:19] mikeh : crazy considering we were moving up just before the dump
[2016-07-07 16:54:45] BuzzLightYear : Rado: eh~ thanks ;-)
[2016-07-07 16:56:06] jung1 : nice selling pressure on finex
[2016-07-07 16:56:25] rapidtrades : what's so nice about it
[2016-07-07 16:56:33] jung1 : Im short
[2016-07-07 16:56:33] ax : can't believe I fell for the halvening bull talk, lost half my balance :/ glad im shorting now
[2016-07-07 16:56:49] jung1 : you should listen bitmex trollbox
[2016-07-07 16:57:09] jung1 : in 4yrs from now you will know what to do
[2016-07-07 16:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1600 @ 619.26
[2016-07-07 16:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3430 @ 618.87
[2016-07-07 16:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 370 @ 617.34
[2016-07-07 16:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1288 @ 616.43
[2016-07-07 16:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 71997 @ 616.54 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-07 16:58:25] ax : how long can we go, how low can we go
[2016-07-07 16:58:45] rapidtrades : we're nearing support now
[2016-07-07 16:59:19] jung1 : imo we will be somewhere between $0 and ∞
[2016-07-07 16:59:46] ax : 11% dpe
[2016-07-07 17:00:10] migz : 600 incoming.
[2016-07-07 17:00:14] asdfman : sub 555
[2016-07-07 17:00:20] jung1 : told you!
[2016-07-07 17:00:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1070 @ 613.31
[2016-07-07 17:00:31] asdfman : elliot wave smashing into shore
[2016-07-07 17:00:46] rapidtrades : support now...let's see how long it holds
[2016-07-07 17:00:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 612.35
[2016-07-07 17:01:34] asdfman : A and B finished
[2016-07-07 17:01:41] asdfman : and now C incomming
[2016-07-07 17:01:44] asdfman : so sub 555
[2016-07-07 17:01:48] macios15 : bounce now
[2016-07-07 17:02:02] jung1 : IM keeping my short
[2016-07-07 17:02:28] asdfman : 10x short on U16
[2016-07-07 17:02:49] asdfman : not much, but nice anyway
[2016-07-07 17:03:09] Rado : Nice call on 610 rapidtrades
[2016-07-07 17:03:58] mbaril : Wow nice rebound
[2016-07-07 17:04:17] jung1 : not so fast
[2016-07-07 17:04:31] mbaril : so now its a bull or bear market
[2016-07-07 17:04:35] mbaril : sorry was away for 1 week :P
[2016-07-07 17:04:49] Rado : lol jung1
[2016-07-07 17:04:51] jung1 : beull one
[2016-07-07 17:04:53] Rado : it was fast
[2016-07-07 17:08:42] justinlooking : i have fills that aren't showin gup in fills pane
[2016-07-07 17:09:18] jung1 : finex want pump, china want dump
[2016-07-07 17:09:33] justinlooking : been ovserving strange behaviour for couple of weeks now
[2016-07-07 17:09:59] Rado : check with BitMEX support justinlooking
[2016-07-07 17:10:27] Rado : rapidtrades: did you buy on this dip?
[2016-07-07 17:10:29] justinlooking : i'm trying Rado!
[2016-07-07 17:10:46] rapidtrades : Rado: not yet
[2016-07-07 17:10:52] Rado : k
[2016-07-07 17:11:06] rapidtrades : waiting to see if it holds
[2016-07-07 17:11:12] jung1 : bounce?
[2016-07-07 17:11:14] Rado : I got some Sep, but no swap yet
[2016-07-07 17:11:36] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Could you give me an example fill that is not appearing?
[2016-07-07 17:12:28] justinlooking : Wally: `2016-07-07 17:59:59 XBTUSD Trade Buy 1500 612.00`
[2016-07-07 17:14:49] BitMEX_Wally : I see it in Recent Trades `612.00 1500 00:59:59 S`
[2016-07-07 17:15:13] justinlooking : yeh i see in trade history, but not in "Fills" pane of orders thingybob
[2016-07-07 17:16:37] lockhedge : justinlooking: you maybe had a short disconnect from websockets
[2016-07-07 17:16:39] BitMEX_Wally : The fills tab is sorted by order submission time and only shows the last 100 orders
[2016-07-07 17:16:43] tscha : interesting price movement the last days
[2016-07-07 17:16:45] BitMEX_Wally : That order was submitted at 2016.07.03 17:04:51 UTC
[2016-07-07 17:16:50] BitMEX_Wally : So it might have fallen off the bottom
[2016-07-07 17:16:59] jung1 : tscha: you are long or short?
[2016-07-07 17:17:09] justinlooking : oh right, surely fills should sort by fill time?
[2016-07-07 17:17:14] tscha : jung1: flat
[2016-07-07 17:17:52] justinlooking : sorting fills by order submission time is not useful :P
[2016-07-07 17:18:05] migz : long! 3 green candles in 15min chart
[2016-07-07 17:18:40] jung1 : lets wait for 627
[2016-07-07 17:19:15] Rado : maybe we will have a double bottom at $580 an dup from there
[2016-07-07 17:19:28] Rado : in the next few days
[2016-07-07 17:20:06] jung1 : I don't trust that chinese bastards
[2016-07-07 17:20:23] jung1 : Rado: thats my bet
[2016-07-07 17:20:33] jung1 : its possible to go under 600
[2016-07-07 17:20:37] jung1 : or even 550
[2016-07-07 17:20:38] migz : i dont like maybe.
[2016-07-07 17:21:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 @ 622.40
[2016-07-07 17:21:27] Jj4REAL : rebound looks healthy vs the previous drop
[2016-07-07 17:21:55] jung1 : migz: for shure we will be somewhere between $0 and ∞
[2016-07-07 17:22:23] Rado : rapidtrades: where did j8 go?
[2016-07-07 17:22:28] lockhedge : tscha: seems that a lot of ppl fear a massive drop of the hashrate after halving. not justified imho, but could become a self fulfilling prophecy
[2016-07-07 17:22:30] Rado : did he join sledger?
[2016-07-07 17:22:39] justinlooking : holiday
[2016-07-07 17:22:59] tscha : interesting
[2016-07-07 17:23:03] Rado : holiday?
[2016-07-07 17:23:05] Rado : what's that
[2016-07-07 17:23:29] Rado : you are connected to the internet no matter where you are
[2016-07-07 17:23:30] Rado : ;-)
[2016-07-07 17:23:54] tscha : unfortunately I don't have time to follow the drama, but which you some interesting halving weeks, will eventually stop by from time to time
[2016-07-07 17:24:02] tscha : which = wish
[2016-07-07 17:24:07] migz : massive drop hashrate means massive drop in price as we will wait longer for block confirmation?
[2016-07-07 17:24:37] johndoe : depends on what you mean by massive, but yah, that is the fear
[2016-07-07 17:24:59] cekseh : Difficulty adjusts with hash power btw
[2016-07-07 17:25:02] cekseh : In case anyone forgot
[2016-07-07 17:25:06] johndoe : 1mb cap is going to cause a lot of problems
[2016-07-07 17:25:10] cekseh : Meaning block time stays at 10m
[2016-07-07 17:25:15] johndoe : yeah, cekseh, but that takes 2 weeks to update
[2016-07-07 17:25:28] migz : Red candle 15min chart incoming.
[2016-07-07 17:25:47] johndoe : so for the first two weeks, we could have some big issues - definitely a concern to be aware of
[2016-07-07 17:26:05] johndoe : make sure you pay the right fees during those two weeks, cause they will probably be quite high
[2016-07-07 17:26:11] Rado : there will be no issues
[2016-07-07 17:26:22] johndoe : its unknowable, imo
[2016-07-07 17:26:40] Rado : 4 years ago do you know the equipment used to mine
[2016-07-07 17:26:53] Rado : it was way worse that what they have now
[2016-07-07 17:26:55] johndoe : 4 years ago, we didnt have a 1mb cap limit that mattered
[2016-07-07 17:27:12] jung1 : nice buy support
[2016-07-07 17:27:17] Rado : there are already solutions for the 1 MB limit
[2016-07-07 17:27:24] Rado : they just need to decide to implement them
[2016-07-07 17:27:27] Rado : and they will if needed
[2016-07-07 17:27:53] johndoe : the issues are for the first two weeks primarily
[2016-07-07 17:28:15] johndoe : so no update in time to matter
[2016-07-07 17:28:35] Rado : to tell you the truth I would not mind a drop so I can buy more
[2016-07-07 17:28:49] johndoe : well im short right now, so i'd love more falling
[2016-07-07 17:28:56] Rado : In the long run these prices will look so cheap people will be wondering why they didn't buy
[2016-07-07 17:29:35] johndoe : yeah, i agree, in the long run
[2016-07-07 17:29:50] zanza : DPeeeee
[2016-07-07 17:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 900 @ 62476.0
[2016-07-07 17:30:46] ax : 62476.0 ?
[2016-07-07 17:32:30] justinlooking : ax: XBT = yen
[2016-07-07 17:32:34] justinlooking : *XBJ
[2016-07-07 17:32:49] asdfman : Yen
[2016-07-07 17:34:58] jung1 : looks like we are going to recover pretty fast
[2016-07-07 17:35:05] jung1 : maybe not fast
[2016-07-07 17:35:45] jung1 : and maybe not recover
[2016-07-07 17:35:47] jung1 : :|
[2016-07-07 17:37:31] justinlooking : lol
[2016-07-07 17:48:18] macios15 : finex gona colapse and then bounce
[2016-07-07 17:48:49] RoftheN : Why?
[2016-07-07 17:49:18] macios15 : end of bouble?
[2016-07-07 17:49:40] migz : Just collapse, like gox, no bounce.
[2016-07-07 17:49:54] jung1 : another test of 610
[2016-07-07 17:53:32] Rado : bubble?
[2016-07-07 17:53:37] Rado : this is no bubble
[2016-07-07 17:54:02] Rado : if it goes to $4000 then you might say it's a bubble
[2016-07-07 18:00:30] RoftheN : But people know about bubbles now, so it won't reach 4000 unless some very powerful people want it
[2016-07-07 18:00:54] jung1 : yeah
[2016-07-07 18:01:01] jung1 : plus there is a lot of lavarage
[2016-07-07 18:01:04] jung1 : around
[2016-07-07 18:02:18] zanza : DPE gett bigger!
[2016-07-07 18:02:47] zanza : `630.00 806164 `
[2016-07-07 18:03:06] rapidtrades : they're literally buying every 10 pips on yen pairs....f aholes
[2016-07-07 18:03:09] zanza : `630.00 806164`
[2016-07-07 18:03:25] zanza : `630.00 806164`
[2016-07-07 18:03:45] jung1 : so what
[2016-07-07 18:03:47] rapidtrades : stop
[2016-07-07 18:03:49] jung1 : we are going to 630?
[2016-07-07 18:03:51] zanza : sis you see that oil crash Rapid?
[2016-07-07 18:03:58] rapidtrades : zanza: yea
[2016-07-07 18:04:02] zanza : im going knife hunting
[2016-07-07 18:04:14] rapidtrades : gl
[2016-07-07 18:04:37] rapidtrades : few months ago ppl were freaking about oil falling...guess it doesn;t f matter anymore
[2016-07-07 18:04:43] rapidtrades : its one big buying party
[2016-07-07 18:04:52] zanza : kyle bass is long oil