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[2016-07-03 08:25:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 800 @ 675.50
[2016-07-03 08:26:13] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-07-03 08:26:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40 @ 674.02
[2016-07-03 08:26:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 258 @ 673.36
[2016-07-03 08:26:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 673.95
[2016-07-03 08:27:07] jung1 : hello REKT
[2016-07-03 08:27:12] jung1 : my old friend
[2016-07-03 08:34:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14577 @ 672.25
[2016-07-03 08:34:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 671.61
[2016-07-03 08:34:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 671.04
[2016-07-03 08:34:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4400 @ 670.49
[2016-07-03 08:36:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 668.08
[2016-07-03 08:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8250 @ 664.94
[2016-07-03 08:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 24000 @ 664.81 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-03 08:37:46] jung1 : ouch
[2016-07-03 08:37:51] jung1 : 650 incomming
[2016-07-03 08:38:04] Mr Blue : Well I lost my ass again, time to get mad and send in more btc I guess
[2016-07-03 08:38:58] jung1 : take a break
[2016-07-03 08:39:00] jung1 : of trading
[2016-07-03 08:40:18] Mr Blue : Nah I play for my money back, one good trade should do it, and I can take more losses if need be to achieve that.
[2016-07-03 08:40:39] macios15 : halving-in price
[2016-07-03 08:41:12] Mr Blue : macios15: hopefully as I need a good point to get back in on now lol
[2016-07-03 08:46:01] Tetsuo : Mr Blue: never forget to go all - in 100x to make it back as quick as possible,
[2016-07-03 08:48:49] Mr Blue : Tetsuo: I've just been looking at that option instead of sending in more btc, even though I've just lost 2.4 btc over 2 days If I can do x100 on Yen, can buy back the amount I just lost and if we go 730+ I should gain my money back, but x100 is very risky, maybe I just send in another 2 btc, not sure yet, think I'll roll a joint and ponder my options
[2016-07-03 08:49:36] mike1000 : Mr Blue: what's your trading style?
[2016-07-03 08:50:00] Mr Blue : mike1000: crystal ball and a bag of cannabis lol
[2016-07-03 08:50:09] Mr Blue : mike1000: more of a day trader
[2016-07-03 08:53:17] mike1000 : any system? or just gambling
[2016-07-03 08:55:11] Mr Blue : mike1000: I have a system of watching the markets and guestimates, but it's all just gambling when you think about it, unless you have a secure arb trade, but that can soon change well waiting on a deposit.
[2016-07-03 08:56:16] jung1 : http://www.cabafx.com/trading-ebooks-collection/newpdf/ have fun guys
[2016-07-03 08:56:20] jung1 : and thank me later
[2016-07-03 08:57:06] laisee : jung1: which one has guaranteed system for winning?
[2016-07-03 08:57:06] mike1000 : should read them all to become profitable?
[2016-07-03 08:57:49] jung1 : laisee: buy and hold
[2016-07-03 08:57:52] jung1 : mike1000: yes
[2016-07-03 08:58:12] laisee : can't see that title ... how does it work?
[2016-07-03 08:59:14] jung1 : laisee: you buy bitcoin, print paper wallet and hold it in your hand until you die
[2016-07-03 08:59:37] Mr Blue : At the moment I'm bullish till $800 after block reward halving maybe $1000 and a Christmas boost $2000, but then back to $800 before big gains, unless we crash to shit of course... doesn't matter what trading lessons you read, unless you can control the market you can't be 100% sure of what direction it will go.
[2016-07-03 09:01:31] laisee : jung1: sounds good, except I don't get to spend all the profit$$$
[2016-07-03 09:02:50] rullwull : Mr Blue: 4h looks like a next big dive just started, i think this correction will be completed in one or two weeks and after that we can see new highs
[2016-07-03 09:03:51] Mr Blue : rullwull: ye I know, but I might just risk a x100 at 650 to insure I totally lost my ass here lol
[2016-07-03 09:04:53] rullwull : good luck)
[2016-07-03 09:05:12] Mr Blue : rullwull: what bottom are you think mate?
[2016-07-03 09:05:29] Mr Blue : Thinking*
[2016-07-03 09:06:02] BTCDJS : laisee: why not?
[2016-07-03 09:06:27] rullwull : if we cross 600, than the next fib level is 587
[2016-07-03 09:06:42] rapidtrades : likely we're not gonna see new highs this year, maybe ever
[2016-07-03 09:06:54] laisee : BTCDJS: if I Hodl BTC until death, where is the fun for me?
[2016-07-03 09:07:03] BTCDJS : laisee: ahh
[2016-07-03 09:07:08] rapidtrades : this halving was bitcoin's shot and it blew it
[2016-07-03 09:07:17] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: 1w chart is not bullish
[2016-07-03 09:07:24] rullwull : im not sure if we can go lower than last correction, but everything is possible
[2016-07-03 09:07:40] FLACK : i think we are now going to the moon
[2016-07-03 09:07:43] FLACK : this is a fake out
[2016-07-03 09:07:59] BTCDJS : but 1d is
[2016-07-03 09:08:00] rullwull : but we are still in up trend by weekly chart, this is correction
[2016-07-03 09:08:02] rapidtrades : fakeouts don't last 2 weeks bro
[2016-07-03 09:08:34] BTCDJS : why is bitmex giving us FLACK?
[2016-07-03 09:08:34] laisee : trend == friend, no?
[2016-07-03 09:08:35] rapidtrades : we topped on june 18th, u do the math
[2016-07-03 09:09:03] FLACK : :'-(
[2016-07-03 09:09:28] BTCDJS : FLACK: dont cry. Its a play on words
[2016-07-03 09:10:09] FLACK : :-)
[2016-07-03 09:13:57] Mr Blue : rullwull: we'll see but I don't think they'll want a negative direction before or just after block reward halving, 600 is possible though, anything is in an infinite universe, let me know when you think I should x100 yen mate
[2016-07-03 09:17:26] vbmithr : anything is in an infinite universe lol
[2016-07-03 09:17:30] vbmithr : "the price can go either way"
[2016-07-03 09:18:53] BTCDJS : vbmithr: very profound
[2016-07-03 09:18:54] mikeh : i still don't see how the halving will more than double the old base price in the $200s, ie. the min price miners would sell at
[2016-07-03 09:19:47] mikeh : seems more about the economy and currency devaluations
[2016-07-03 09:19:53] vbmithr : :)
[2016-07-03 09:20:23] mike1000 : bitmex newsletter told us below $600 will be unprofitable for miners
[2016-07-03 09:20:30] mike1000 : what do u think
[2016-07-03 09:23:41] mikeh : maybe right but the yuan hasn't devalued that much.. miners stated 200's like a year ago
[2016-07-03 09:24:06] mikeh : but i guess they all have their own costs
[2016-07-03 09:25:00] mikeh : we should still moon because everything else is turning to shit :)
[2016-07-03 09:25:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 69050.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-03 09:25:23] jung1 : ouch
[2016-07-03 09:25:50] Mr Blue : mike1000: well Bitcoin was trading at £150 for most of 2015 then halving speculation kicked in an went £300, seen as it's like £507 now I think miners will be fine lol, but this is an older unity to advance the under valued Bitcoin price to $2000 per coin
[2016-07-03 09:26:36] rapidtrades : 'undervalued'
[2016-07-03 09:27:01] Mr Blue : Why do I say it's undervalued? Well coinbase says they have 4 million customers, hopefully each of them can afford $4000 for their families futures
[2016-07-03 09:27:12] rapidtrades : anyone took that LTC/BTC trade? i haven't found a good way to wedge
[2016-07-03 09:27:36] rapidtrades : hedge*
[2016-07-03 09:29:32] Mr Blue : Opportunity***
[2016-07-03 09:30:59] macios15 : hot potato game
[2016-07-03 09:33:04] Mr Blue : macios15: yes but if 21 million people each want more than one, we soon run out of potato's and even average people can go $2000 a btc even if buying in 0.1 parts per wage day
[2016-07-03 09:34:19] rullwull : Mr Blue: XBJ is a very tricky instrument, i trade it only by 15 min charts or lower
[2016-07-03 09:35:13] rullwull : rapidtrades: i trade LTCBTC
[2016-07-03 09:43:51] Mr Blue : rullwull: cool
[2016-07-03 09:47:41] rullwull : Mr Blue: check the upcoming RPs on 15 charts, my bot calculates the next low RP from 10 till 11 am UTC and the next up RP is between 4-5pm UTC, but these are just estimations, can't give you any guarantees)
[2016-07-03 09:50:44] jung1 : rullwull: any chance to share your bot?
[2016-07-03 09:50:47] UcheAlex : Hi All...just joined....kindly fill me in....
[2016-07-03 09:52:10] Mr Blue : rullwull: thanks for trying to offer your help mate, don't worry about me though I'll make that loss back, made a small profit another place, doesn't offset that loss but shit happens lol
[2016-07-03 09:52:24] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: welcome to the party
[2016-07-03 09:54:12] UcheAlex : Am so glad to be among good fellas....thanks Mr.Blue...
[2016-07-03 09:56:31] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: no problem mate, good luck with your trading.
[2016-07-03 09:58:12] UcheAlex : Thanks mate.....
[2016-07-03 09:58:31] rullwull : jung1: sorry, no
[2016-07-03 09:59:40] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: you new to crypto or just this exchange?
[2016-07-03 10:02:01] UcheAlex : Both mate.....trying to get my head straight with this crypto stuff....need some lectures on it...
[2016-07-03 10:03:16] jung1 : UcheAlex: http://www.cabafx.com/trading-ebooks-collection/newpdf/
[2016-07-03 10:03:51] UcheAlex : Thanks mate...will look that up...
[2016-07-03 10:03:58] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: what you needing help with?
[2016-07-03 10:05:08] UcheAlex : let me start with crypto lessons...
[2016-07-03 10:07:23] jung1 : buy high, sell low
[2016-07-03 10:07:24] jung1 : stay classy
[2016-07-03 10:08:00] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: lol well not sure what you need to know, have you seen the what is Bitcoin video on YouTube? clearly you know something or you wouldn't be here, if you want be to tell you why Bitcoin and some other blockchain currencies are better than Fiat = government currency, I'm happy to have a rant lol
[2016-07-03 10:08:16] Mr Blue : jung1: lol +1
[2016-07-03 10:08:43] Mr Blue : jung1: but the other way round of course, damn I'm too stoned lol
[2016-07-03 10:09:37] UcheAlex : lol...i totally agree with you.....Mr. Blue + Jung1.....
[2016-07-03 10:09:57] jung1 : so its true that bitcoin is for criminals and narcos
[2016-07-03 10:10:04] wotan : just watch, read and learn it by yourself no book needed
[2016-07-03 10:10:32] UcheAlex : ok...Wotan....
[2016-07-03 10:11:17] jung1 : UcheAlex: start here http://www.babypips.com/
[2016-07-03 10:12:31] wotan : UcheAley you want to trad ebitcoin only or altcoins too?
[2016-07-03 10:14:29] UcheAlex : ..for now...Bitcoin....then progress. to others...
[2016-07-03 10:15:19] UcheAlex : Jung1....thanks for the link......seems i have alot to read....
[2016-07-03 10:15:28] wotan : good to read at bitcointalk then, do a account there have many topics
[2016-07-03 10:15:47] Mr Blue : UcheAlex: most the others are shit I wouldn't bother lol, unless risking a quick in and out trade.
[2016-07-03 10:15:56] Mr Blue : wotan: ye +1 to that
[2016-07-03 10:16:43] Mr Blue : And also I'll give a shout out to cryptocointalk.com and Bitcointalk.tk
[2016-07-03 10:16:52] wotan : i could tell you some coins that will soon go off imo but its not guaranteet like all in crypto haha
[2016-07-03 10:16:58] wotan : dont fall for pumps and dumps
[2016-07-03 10:17:42] Tedy. : Time to go full bull, we hitted good supprt line at this level
[2016-07-03 10:17:59] wotan : and buy yourself physical silver in the case all go down
[2016-07-03 10:18:17] wotan : tedy i think this are just hsakeouts for the weak hands right now
[2016-07-03 10:19:00] Tedy. : fakeouts? *
[2016-07-03 10:20:10] wotan : shakeouts
[2016-07-03 10:21:29] Tedy. : Ah understand, yeah could be
[2016-07-03 10:22:59] Tedy. : I think when we broke down from 694 we needed to go all the way down to the support line to get out all the longs so we could easyer move back up agjen now
[2016-07-03 10:24:09] wotan : yep agree but lets see will be an interesting week not just for btc and altcoins
[2016-07-03 10:24:15] wotan : for stock amrket gold silver too
[2016-07-03 10:24:18] wotan : market
[2016-07-03 10:33:36] Tedy. : Yeah that is true
[2016-07-03 10:36:29] Tetsuo : http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/01/chinese-miners-allegedly-planning-hard-fork-bitcoin/
[2016-07-03 10:36:46] Tetsuo : bad news is bad
[2016-07-03 10:50:36] zanza : the price spikes on that news
[2016-07-03 10:53:48] rullwull : why do you always connect the price move with the news, todays move down was clearly visible by TA
[2016-07-03 10:55:59] rullwull : this mining news was played a few days ago, repost in newsbtc doesn't affect the price at all
[2016-07-03 11:15:38] writlarge : newsbtc repost is 2 days old
[2016-07-03 11:30:14] zanza : we could see a LTC price dip after the halvening, everything may be overpriced in
[2016-07-03 11:31:02] zanza : the price was about 250, before the halvening rush also
[2016-07-03 11:33:23] rullwull : i was saying that this news defiantly can't affect todays price move
[2016-07-03 11:37:59] mike1000 : rullwull: how did you see it with TA? MACD? And what TA says now?
[2016-07-03 11:42:26] rullwull : mike1000: analyzing bots, several indicators and elliot waves, it shows 1h down, 4h down and weekly up
[2016-07-03 11:43:30] rullwull : i also trade by 15 min chart
[2016-07-03 11:45:43] rullwull : i calculate RPs for every timeframe and trade only by them
[2016-07-03 11:54:44] mike1000 : What is RP, resistance points?
[2016-07-03 11:55:39] rullwull : reversal points
[2016-07-03 11:55:47] mike1000 : Did you build analysis bots by yourself? What do they analyse?
[2016-07-03 11:58:12] rullwull : i build bots with the team, the most efficient algorithm is comparing previous patterns
[2016-07-03 12:01:37] mike1000 : Interesting, previous patterns for this pair only? for which time frame?
[2016-07-03 12:02:32] mike1000 : I haven't built trade bots but look to automate some things
[2016-07-03 12:07:56] Tedy. : rullwull: Are the bots open source?
[2016-07-03 12:34:33] rullwull : sorry guys, its not open source and i can't share it. keep in mind that my bot isn't fully automate, I need input some data manually like elliott waves calculation and the other it feeds automatically, anyway you can't 100% rely on bot, it helps a lot in combination with other indicators
[2016-07-03 12:51:59] Tedy. : rullwull: No worries I understand. coinpit have test net you could try it on to get it working best way possible
[2016-07-03 12:57:41] writlarge : is it no longer possible to open the chart in a different browser tab?
[2016-07-03 12:58:42] Tedy. : try use /app/trade/XBTUSD
[2016-07-03 12:58:56] rullwull : Tedy.: that one that i mentioned i found the most effective one after 5 years of testing different algorithms and also keep in mind my bots do not trade, only do analyzes
[2016-07-03 13:02:12] writlarge : found the button to open chart in new window, so never mind
[2016-07-03 13:03:05] Tedy. : Wow that is a long time, really interessting that the most proffitable is actually just previus patterens tho
[2016-07-03 13:03:51] rullwull : Tedy.: everything has a cycles and they always repeat
[2016-07-03 13:04:19] Tedy. : But what happens if we go over 1000 usd does that even matter?
[2016-07-03 13:07:53] rullwull : i wish the price goes over 1000, have many coins to dump on that price
[2016-07-03 13:09:23] Tedy. : Yeah but if it goes over does the bot have any price patteren to follow then ?
[2016-07-03 13:13:43] rullwull : its not just the price level, its similar % level, volumes, time and many other parameters, believe me everything repeats in our life, nothing new, even if the price will hits new highs there will be the same patterns as before during the climb
[2016-07-03 13:16:29] Tedy. : I belive so to, Do you have telegram btw?
[2016-07-03 13:26:26] Tedy. : I belive 682 can be breakout point up
[2016-07-03 13:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 500 @ 0.00647
[2016-07-03 14:55:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 669.12
[2016-07-03 14:55:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40 @ 669.11
[2016-07-03 14:55:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 668.32
[2016-07-03 14:56:38] macios15 : nice
[2016-07-03 14:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1750 @ 667.55
[2016-07-03 14:57:27] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-07-03 14:57:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 667.46 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-03 14:57:34] macios15 : INCOMING
[2016-07-03 14:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18050 @ 664.88
[2016-07-03 14:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 800 @ 665.23
[2016-07-03 14:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 129 @ 664.89
[2016-07-03 14:57:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 968 @ 663.59
[2016-07-03 14:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 663.12
[2016-07-03 14:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 662.99
[2016-07-03 14:58:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 900 @ 661.56
[2016-07-03 14:58:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 662.44
[2016-07-03 14:58:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 640 @ 661.14
[2016-07-03 14:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7 @ 660.73
[2016-07-03 14:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 750 @ 660.64
[2016-07-03 14:58:33] macios15 : holy fuck
[2016-07-03 14:58:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 850 @ 659.91
[2016-07-03 14:58:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 46264 @ 658.96 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-03 14:58:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 130000 @ 660.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-03 14:58:51] billz : woah
[2016-07-03 14:58:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4 @ 657.53 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-03 15:02:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3400 @ 656.21
[2016-07-03 15:02:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 656.08
[2016-07-03 15:02:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 656.18
[2016-07-03 15:03:20] writlarge : should be support around 640
[2016-07-03 15:03:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 652.34
[2016-07-03 15:03:41] macios15 : buaahahahahahahah
[2016-07-03 15:12:50] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-07-03 15:13:25] sq : rapidtrades: sup
[2016-07-03 15:14:42] Hawtdawg : T-REKT is killing everyone
[2016-07-03 15:22:57] RoftheN : wow the 130000
[2016-07-03 15:22:57] RoftheN : wow
[2016-07-03 15:24:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 83 @ 67639.0
[2016-07-03 15:24:24] nip : i can only imagine how much xbt that position lost
[2016-07-03 15:25:04] RoftheN : how much?
[2016-07-03 15:25:57] nip : no way to know unless the 130000 long speaks up
[2016-07-03 15:26:26] nip : anyway its definitely not a dip im buying
[2016-07-03 15:26:30] nip : support is a bit lower
[2016-07-03 15:26:45] nip : 630 on finex
[2016-07-03 15:27:29] RoftheN : wow
[2016-07-03 15:32:42] Rado : any reason for the drop?
[2016-07-03 15:32:54] Rado : other than normal technical action
[2016-07-03 15:33:13] macios15 : halving in price
[2016-07-03 15:33:18] RoftheN : Maybe the silkroad ex-secret service thief
[2016-07-03 15:33:31] RoftheN : http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/03/the-silk-road-saga-continues-shaun-bridges-may-have-stolen-more-bitcoins/
[2016-07-03 15:33:51] RoftheN : but less than a million shouldn't be that powerful
[2016-07-03 15:39:21] Rado : thanks guys
[2016-07-03 15:39:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 651.28
[2016-07-03 15:40:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 141404 @ 650.11 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-03 15:40:54] nip : wow.
[2016-07-03 15:40:58] nip : who was that?
[2016-07-03 15:41:28] macios15 : i hope we dont get dpe
[2016-07-03 15:41:44] nip : we wont
[2016-07-03 15:42:07] nip : you can tell because the liquidations all immediately filled and the dpe says 0%
[2016-07-03 15:42:43] Rado : yep
[2016-07-03 15:42:51] Rado : no open order
[2016-07-03 15:45:24] BitMEX_Sam : This is the active liquidation endpoint & doc: https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Liquidation/Liquidation_get
[2016-07-03 15:55:08] rapidtrades : back
[2016-07-03 16:03:50] Tedy. : Every time i go bull this happens
[2016-07-03 16:04:56] rapidtrades : break of 650 imminent on finex imo
[2016-07-03 16:07:38] justinlooking : gone bid $6 lol
[2016-07-03 16:07:45] justinlooking : u never disappoint :P
[2016-07-03 16:08:15] Tedy. : rapidtrades: so you think we will go lower?
[2016-07-03 16:08:30] rapidtrades : justinlooking: :)
[2016-07-03 16:17:13] ayy_lmao : lool bitcoin
[2016-07-03 16:22:59] nip : fineregex: happy with the u15 mark price now?
[2016-07-03 16:23:09] nip : im in the green now
[2016-07-03 16:39:41] rapidtrades : i'm happy with it but i would've preferred a lower rebalance price
[2016-07-03 16:41:04] nip : yeah. lots of locked up funds because of that
[2016-07-03 16:46:54] zanza : what just happened?
[2016-07-03 16:47:02] zanza : I was told there would be moon
[2016-07-03 16:48:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 648.77
[2016-07-03 16:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15200 @ 647.98
[2016-07-03 16:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 647.74
[2016-07-03 16:48:38] justinlooking : good shout rapid
[2016-07-03 16:49:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 646.05
[2016-07-03 16:49:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 24150 @ 66455.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-07-03 16:49:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10800 @ 645.32
[2016-07-03 16:49:17] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-07-03 16:49:23] RoftheN : interesting
[2016-07-03 16:49:41] RoftheN : Panic sell or buying more
[2016-07-03 16:50:25] justinlooking : i have 645 finex as 38.2 fib, so load up but tight stop
[2016-07-03 16:50:35] nip : the fibs dont lie
[2016-07-03 16:50:46] justinlooking : lol
[2016-07-03 16:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 40 @ 0.00646
[2016-07-03 16:53:07] rapidtrades : justinlooking: sup homie
[2016-07-03 16:53:26] MattyO : Help fund my new EP https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-fund-matty-o-s-new-ep-speed-of-sound--2#/
[2016-07-03 16:54:48] Tedy. : Double bottom bounce incomming?
[2016-07-03 16:54:58] rapidtrades : no
[2016-07-03 16:56:06] Roevenger : what 's the target for this down move?
[2016-07-03 16:58:57] sq : right here
[2016-07-03 16:59:45] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-07-03 17:09:22] nip : i said 630 but someone else called 640
[2016-07-03 17:09:48] nip : looks like were bouncing off 640
[2016-07-03 17:09:53] nip : time to buy
[2016-07-03 17:10:22] rapidtrades : if this doesn't bounce, a crash is coming
[2016-07-03 17:10:28] ayy_lmao : yeah
[2016-07-03 17:10:44] rapidtrades : i lean toward crash
[2016-07-03 17:14:00] rapidtrades : finex is being stupid again
[2016-07-03 17:15:06] Roevenger : how so
[2016-07-03 17:22:50] rapidtrades : eth not benefiting much from crash
[2016-07-03 17:41:46] zanza : looks like this was a finex dump
[2016-07-03 17:41:53] zanza : longs closing out ?
[2016-07-03 17:44:16] Tedy. : Anyone have a BTCUSD graph overlaying ETCBTC to see how they reackt to each other ?
[2016-07-03 17:58:20] Tedy. : Why cant have a stop and take proffit order at the same time ?
[2016-07-03 18:00:52] d_ : ETHUSD also looking like it'll head below 11.50 today
[2016-07-03 19:16:40] rapidtrades : fall u useless whore
[2016-07-03 19:30:29] rapidtrades : $665...cos why not
[2016-07-03 19:30:55] rapidtrades : who gives a shit, ur all just creating noise before the inevitable crash
[2016-07-03 19:31:35] Roevenger : why is it inevitable in your opinion?
[2016-07-03 19:32:45] macios15 : rapidtrades: u short?
[2016-07-03 19:46:03] 1QaZxSw2 : im going long here
[2016-07-03 19:46:17] 1QaZxSw2 : will probably get longer at 650
[2016-07-03 19:52:26] rapidtrades : macios15: not short just a failed arb...long leg didn't execute
[2016-07-03 19:53:39] rapidtrades : i'll prolly rebuy around 600-610
[2016-07-03 20:23:20] zanza : https://np.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/comments/4qvklw/fireed_just_before_32_with_750k/
[2016-07-03 20:28:29] Rado : nice read zanza
[2016-07-03 20:33:39] Rado : I have no idea where BTC is going from here
[2016-07-03 20:33:50] Rado : very uncertain times
[2016-07-03 20:34:14] Rado : we either need to break 700 or break 500
[2016-07-03 20:34:34] Rado : anything in between is undecided
[2016-07-03 20:36:12] zanza : yeah, there could be some big chaos on havling day
[2016-07-03 20:36:28] zanza : also Corexit seems to be uncertain
[2016-07-03 20:43:44] FLACK : BTC is gonna go to 700
[2016-07-03 20:45:23] Rado : FLACK: are you putting your money on that call?
[2016-07-03 20:46:03] FLACK : yes i have 15x on it
[2016-07-03 20:53:04] Rado : how much BTC on that 15x?
[2016-07-03 20:54:01] Roevenger : we are about to know when the stops start running :p
[2016-07-03 21:12:50] Rado : :-)
[2016-07-03 21:14:52] Rado : over 2000 BTC support on Bitfinex at $645
[2016-07-03 21:16:27] Tetsuo : support means nothing, only fools believe in the orderbook
[2016-07-03 21:17:14] migz : $600 soon.
[2016-07-03 21:18:51] Rado : Thanks for the insult Tetsuo
[2016-07-03 21:18:58] Rado : not that I believe in support
[2016-07-03 21:19:07] Tetsuo : u are welcome!
[2016-07-03 21:19:10] Rado : ETH seems a good buy on this BTC weakness
[2016-07-03 21:19:21] Tetsuo : i have to agree on that one though
[2016-07-03 22:39:00] rapidtrades : slightly pissed off right now...
[2016-07-03 22:41:20] sq : rapidtrades: y
[2016-07-03 22:42:11] rapidtrades : ^^^
[2016-07-03 23:51:51] rapidtrades : now china leading this dump...let's see if they can get the job done
[2016-07-04 00:01:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 390 @ 0.01772
[2016-07-04 01:13:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1600 @ 652.03
[2016-07-04 01:13:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 33 @ 651.81
[2016-07-04 01:14:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1600 @ 648.67
[2016-07-04 01:15:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 648.23
[2016-07-04 01:15:17] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-07-04 01:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12 @ 647.64
[2016-07-04 01:15:48] migz : See you at 600 :)
[2016-07-04 01:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 270 @ 646.02
[2016-07-04 01:16:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1200 @ 645.77
[2016-07-04 01:16:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 52213 @ 644.67 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-04 01:16:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 644.63 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-04 01:16:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9 @ 644.47
[2016-07-04 01:16:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 644.14
[2016-07-04 01:17:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 6600 @ 65820.0
[2016-07-04 01:17:54] rapidtrades : People’s Bank of China sets yuan reference rate at 6.6472 (vs. Friday at 6.6496)
[2016-07-04 01:19:12] Roevenger : good support, looks like a double bottom
[2016-07-04 01:20:32] rapidtrades : k
[2016-07-04 01:21:12] rapidtrades : not gonna hold even 15 mins
[2016-07-04 01:28:34] subjective : rapidtrades: so they reduced Yuan further
[2016-07-04 01:30:45] rapidtrades : no..its usd/cnh
[2016-07-04 01:40:49] rapidtrades : wel.....that was unexpected
[2016-07-04 01:41:57] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: Where are you getting your PBOC fixing data from?
[2016-07-04 01:42:10] BitMEX_Arthur : I get it from the PBOC website but that takes 15-20 minutes to update
[2016-07-04 02:06:06] Roevenger : rapidtrades: I called it man, double bottom no question
[2016-07-04 02:07:31] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: http://www.forexlive.com/
[2016-07-04 02:07:50] rapidtrades : Roevenger: it was a double bottom few hrs ago no? now its tripple
[2016-07-04 02:10:06] Roevenger : not in my opinion, those you're talking were too close, not enough time between them
[2016-07-04 02:10:58] migz : 12 hour chart says, another red to 4000 cny. hmmm
[2016-07-04 02:15:10] rapidtrades : meh...its gonna do down anyway, maybe it will take few days now
[2016-07-04 02:15:35] rapidtrades : i had a chance to execute my arb, got greedy
[2016-07-04 02:19:11] rapidtrades : gold above 1351
[2016-07-04 02:24:15] 1QaZxSw2 : buying the bottom has been good. holding some for home stretch http://imgur.com/Io6ETPs
[2016-07-04 02:27:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1721 @ 665.79
[2016-07-04 02:41:30] Rado : Very hard to trade when the price is yo yo like
[2016-07-04 03:03:15] newbie : how do we deposit USD?
[2016-07-04 03:03:26] Adura : You don't.
[2016-07-04 03:03:47] newbie : so the denominating currency is BTC?
[2016-07-04 03:12:42] BitMEX_Arthur : newbie: Yes you must deposit Bitcoin to trade
[2016-07-04 03:12:46] BitMEX_Arthur : and Profit and Loss is in Bitcoin as well
[2016-07-04 03:24:55] RoftheN : What happens if you just suddenly change your leverage?
[2016-07-04 03:33:26] BitMEX_Arthur : RoftheN: it changes how much margin you pledge towards the position
[2016-07-04 03:43:21] rapidtrades : 669....f*ck
[2016-07-04 03:44:03] rapidtrades : are we really still going up with 5 days to halvening?
[2016-07-04 03:44:19] Adura : Why shouldn't we?
[2016-07-04 03:44:20] rapidtrades : guess lots of dumb money started to come in
[2016-07-04 03:46:20] rapidtrades : finex higher then china
[2016-07-04 03:49:32] rapidtrades : $4 above china
[2016-07-04 03:54:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01756
[2016-07-04 03:55:25] mikeh : oo silver over $20
[2016-07-04 03:56:15] rapidtrades : dam
[2016-07-04 03:56:54] rapidtrades : 15% in 4 days
[2016-07-04 04:09:47] sq : why is silver rallying so hard vs gold?
[2016-07-04 04:14:17] Roevenger : finex is more bulish than china
[2016-07-04 04:43:37] 1QaZxSw2 : does wallet balance include withheld profit? how about unrealized pnl?
[2016-07-04 04:46:10] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/marginTermReference
[2016-07-04 04:52:55] 1QaZxSw2 : thanks, ceo
[2016-07-04 04:53:36] 1QaZxSw2 : you have all the info, well arranged. i guess im just too stupid to find it
[2016-07-04 05:18:01] Skylord : hi all
[2016-07-04 06:40:50] Rado : Sup
[2016-07-04 06:50:17] ayy_lmao : yah, gotta hand it to bitmex for the thorough documentation
[2016-07-04 07:08:36] rapidtrades : man can u believe this stupid rally
[2016-07-04 07:09:09] Rado : Buy the dips still works
[2016-07-04 07:09:27] Rado : I just shorted at 673, stop 679
[2016-07-04 07:09:44] rapidtrades : btc-e is not buying it...still at 556
[2016-07-04 07:10:09] Adura : Now that's a bargain!
[2016-07-04 07:10:25] Rado : You mean 658
[2016-07-04 07:10:32] rapidtrades : right
[2016-07-04 07:10:39] rapidtrades : 655
[2016-07-04 07:11:04] Rado : Btce is always 20 bellow
[2016-07-04 07:11:28] rapidtrades : no it isn't
[2016-07-04 07:11:48] Rado : Tes it is
[2016-07-04 07:11:59] Rado : Lol
[2016-07-04 07:14:06] Rado : Going to bed
[2016-07-04 07:14:16] Rado : See ya later
[2016-07-04 07:18:19] fineregex : "XBTUSD perpetual swap" and the futures at ok-coin should actually be cheaper than bitcoin
[2016-07-04 07:19:09] fineregex : at times that more people are long and "XBTU16" is traded at such a high premium
[2016-07-04 07:23:03] subjective : fineregex: because it's going down?
[2016-07-04 07:25:53] rapidtrades : he still hasn't figured out that okc and sept are not the same contract
[2016-07-04 07:26:09] fineregex : i did:D
[2016-07-04 07:28:01] Mr Blue : Morning traders, well I'm on the path to gaining my money back, had to go full on whale here to make x5 worth it, but I'm confidant within few days will have my 2.4 btc back so far 0.1 btc since last night, not the best but I'm trying not to be greedy anymore, trying to make $5000 + in one swing doesn't seem to want to work for a common stoner like me.
[2016-07-04 07:29:10] Tedy. : Did you ho 2.5BTC on 1 trade?
[2016-07-04 07:31:32] Mr Blue : Tedy.: No was like 3 unlucky trades, and actually was more like a 2.6 btc loss over few bad days, but was hoping for big wins lol got greedy.
[2016-07-04 07:32:15] Mr Blue : Slow and steady on x5 will win the race I believe
[2016-07-04 07:36:23] Mr Blue : Tedy.: The worst one was 9000 yen contracts on x50 got liquidated, like I said got greedy lol
[2016-07-04 07:38:07] Mr Blue : Then 4000 on x25 ? and the other loss was much smaller think was on a x10 XBT market.
[2016-07-04 07:42:58] Mr Blue : Thing is when my 9000 got liquidated, I'm sure the REKT bot only said 6000 and it didn't even say mega REKT, even though yen contacts are worth much more than XBT contacts, the 9000 had a value of around 64 BTC so was hoping for $50 x 64 lmao
[2016-07-04 07:43:28] Mr Blue : Or 63 I forget
[2016-07-04 07:44:01] Mr Blue : So guys are we braking $700 today or back down to $650????
[2016-07-04 07:44:25] fineregex : ok-coin is free of interest rates is it?
[2016-07-04 07:44:56] fineregex : i mean the futures leverage not spot margin trading
[2016-07-04 07:45:03] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-07-04 07:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 42 @ 0.01755
[2016-07-04 07:52:06] BitMEX_Wally : fineregex: Futures contracts trade at a premium to spot, this difference is called basis and is effectively an interest rate that is paid up front
[2016-07-04 07:53:47] fineregex : yes
[2016-07-04 08:05:27] rapidtrades : man forex market has turned into one untradable shit
[2016-07-04 08:09:25] fineregex : rapidtrades: how
[2016-07-04 08:16:57] fineregex : BitMEX_Wally: XBTU16. wondering how it is (not) a pyramid scheme
[2016-07-04 08:19:02] fineregex : Say someone started with $100 in april or 0.2 BTC at 25x leverage and the chance will happen to exit at $5000. Then he wins 45 BTC or $225000. But if he increases the position everytime it is rebalanced, then he could win even orders of magnitude more.
[2016-07-04 08:21:30] fineregex : Where does the money come from then?
[2016-07-04 08:21:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 420 @ 0.01724
[2016-07-04 08:24:03] fineregex : Now that i accidentally entered the large short XBTU16 i limited my risk at leverage 25x as well and it will be smart for everyone else who is short to do so too.
[2016-07-04 08:28:37] fineregex : Is anyone short in it?
[2016-07-04 08:29:21] miramm1115 : yep, ppl are short 60k
[2016-07-04 08:29:41] fineregex : where you see it?
[2016-07-04 08:29:56] miramm1115 : Open Interest: 61443 Contracts
[2016-07-04 08:33:11] fineregex : that means 61443 long & 61443 short?
[2016-07-04 08:33:26] miramm1115 : yep, longs=shorts
[2016-07-04 08:36:06] BitMEX_Wally : fineregex: Please look up the word pyramid scheme in a dictionary, and then ask me.
[2016-07-04 08:36:36] fineregex : if bitcoin breaks out to the moon, then what happens with XBTU16
[2016-07-04 08:37:23] BitMEX_Wally : The longs make money, the shorts lose money. It's all zero-sum
[2016-07-04 08:38:17] fineregex : but the theoretical amounts that the LONGs expect wont happend
[2016-07-04 08:39:50] BitMEX_Wally : What do you mean?
[2016-07-04 08:42:11] fineregex : imagine the real bitcoin breaks out to something $**** and longs and shorts in XBTU16 have in average the same leverage / margin cap
[2016-07-04 08:42:21] fineregex : then all shorts get liquidated
[2016-07-04 08:42:35] BitMEX_Wally : Then shorts get liquidated into the market, against sellers
[2016-07-04 08:42:37] BitMEX_Wally : So someone else is short
[2016-07-04 08:43:37] BitMEX_Wally : I imagine most of the people short XBTU16 are hedged with a long spot position
[2016-07-04 08:44:10] fineregex : you cant hedge against it
[2016-07-04 08:44:23] BitMEX_Wally : You can hedge the delta but not the short USD gamma
[2016-07-04 08:44:24] fineregex : because it is not linear but exponential
[2016-07-04 08:44:29] BitMEX_Wally : It's not exponential
[2016-07-04 08:44:31] BitMEX_Wally : It is quadratic
[2016-07-04 08:44:40] fineregex : what is it then
[2016-07-04 08:44:44] BitMEX_Wally : quadratic
[2016-07-04 08:44:44] fineregex : yes
[2016-07-04 08:44:46] Mr Blue : fineregex: you can always sell before the contact is over, I'm guessing will mean extra fee, but sept price will drop to spot or below in sept, premium is just for now and the months before hand, speculation it's normal in markets.
[2016-07-04 08:45:18] BitMEX_Wally : fineregex: Did you get my reply to your support ticket?
[2016-07-04 08:45:18] fineregex : quadratic = exponent: 2
[2016-07-04 08:45:22] fineregex : you cant hedge against it
[2016-07-04 08:45:36] fineregex : thus it is not a balanced market
[2016-07-04 08:45:38] BitMEX_Wally : x^2 is not exponential. 2^x is exponential
[2016-07-04 08:45:45] fineregex : ok
[2016-07-04 08:45:48] BitMEX_Wally : And you can hedge it, you just have to re-hedge your delta as the price moves
[2016-07-04 08:48:07] fineregex : you cant keep up with x² if it breaks out, the higher it is, less incentive for SHORTs
[2016-07-04 08:49:09] fineregex : then shorts must just give up and it drops to the price of bitcoin.
[2016-07-04 08:49:46] BitMEX_Wally : fineregex: Did you read my reply to your support ticket?
[2016-07-04 08:49:51] fineregex : yes
[2016-07-04 08:50:22] fineregex : and Long guys who already saw unrealized profit of $100000 unrealized profit will be forced liquidate as well
[2016-07-04 08:51:36] BitMEX_Wally : Every day XBTU16 decays closer to the spot price
[2016-07-04 08:52:31] BitMEX_Wally : Being long quanto is better than being short, which is why the shorts require a large premium to compensate them
[2016-07-04 08:52:42] BitMEX_Wally : You shorted at a $150 premium which is very good
[2016-07-04 08:53:15] BitMEX_Wally : The price would have to go above $1200 or below $550 for you to lose money on this (assuming you are hedged)
[2016-07-04 08:53:39] BitMEX_Wally : And that's assuming you don't re-hedge as the price moves
[2016-07-04 09:00:16] fineregex : yes
[2016-07-04 09:04:16] fineregex : just saying if bitcoin goes to the moon then this goes even more crazy and the total margin in the pool is not a lot. So voilatility could force liquidate everyone.
[2016-07-04 09:05:25] fineregex : half the way before bitcoin peaked
[2016-07-04 09:06:56] Tedy. : Mr Blue: dude you could to like 5000 x50 when you see breakouts
[2016-07-04 09:09:48] fineregex : BitMEX_Wally: So, fair basis rate calculation formular should be public, so you know exactly what you opt-in to
[2016-07-04 09:10:04] Mr Blue : Tedy.: Maybe I'd do it on x25 in yen market, but for now I'm in low risk mode lol, let me know if you see any good swings coming mate
[2016-07-04 09:22:22] Tedy. : Why yen marked?
[2016-07-04 09:24:07] Mr Blue : Tedy.: I like that one and the XBT, makes no difference really, if Bitcoin goes up they both go up.
[2016-07-04 09:24:40] Tedy. : Yea that is true
[2016-07-04 09:25:15] Tedy. : Think good buy could be around 664
[2016-07-04 09:26:00] Mr Blue : Tedy.: Ye I'll grab more at that level too
[2016-07-04 09:31:53] Tedy. : If you have telegram you can add le there and i can try and give you info when i see it
[2016-07-04 09:35:25] Mr Blue : Tedy.: Don't have it mate, just Wechat, Skype, Facebook, Twitter and few others, cba expanding
[2016-07-04 09:43:49] fineregex : is dow jones traded today? i though it would pause on july4
[2016-07-04 09:51:43] fineregex : so the real break is just 22 hours not 3 day
[2016-07-04 09:51:44] fineregex : http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/dow.php
[2016-07-04 10:47:07] Jovis : globex has a trading halt for 5 hours or so later today
[2016-07-04 10:58:49] fineregex : check my comment below: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/US30/3GdQVqom-US30/
[2016-07-04 11:11:58] rapidtrades : markets can s my D
[2016-07-04 11:17:53] NukeLaloosh : Jovis: have a link?
[2016-07-04 11:19:52] rapidtrades : what a min....negative funding means longs get paid?
[2016-07-04 11:31:30] Jovis : NukeLaloosh: e.g. http://www.cmegroup.com/tools-information/holiday-calendar/files/2016-4th-of-july-holiday-schedule.pdf
[2016-07-04 11:34:27] NukeLaloosh : i remember a trader friend taking me to the metals pits at the nymex—bananas. those are closed now i think
[2016-07-04 11:34:40] NukeLaloosh : Jovis: thanks
[2016-07-04 11:36:35] NukeLaloosh : i remember a guy jumping up and down, screaming at the top of his lungs, turning red...and that was just ordering coffee
[2016-07-04 12:09:00] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally, why did bitmex close my ltc long ?
[2016-07-04 12:10:40] BitMEX_Arthur : luckynuke: please submit a support ticket and someone will take a look
[2016-07-04 13:44:54] Rado : rapidtrades: are you here?
[2016-07-04 13:53:22] Tedy. : We are going up og we break 680 resistance
[2016-07-04 13:54:31] Rado : anyone using Quonie?
[2016-07-04 13:55:03] Tedy. : What is that?
[2016-07-04 13:56:36] Rado : exchange
[2016-07-04 14:11:00] laisee : sometimes
[2016-07-04 14:17:30] RoftheN : Yay money
[2016-07-04 14:28:07] BuzzLightYear : Rado: I used to trade at Quonie but not anymore. Liquidity is low except binary option. Would use market making provides liquidity for vanilla call and put. Currently the fee is too high.
[2016-07-04 14:28:46] BuzzLightYear : BTW binary option is complete gambling
[2016-07-04 14:28:53] Rado : I thought the fees are 0 right tnow
[2016-07-04 14:29:21] BuzzLightYear : Rado: Oh? i didn't know~ thanks. I will check it out.
[2016-07-04 14:29:57] Rado : Liquidity is the biggest problem for exchanges
[2016-07-04 14:30:53] BuzzLightYear : Rado: exactly. Quoine is probably the only exchange that provides vanilla call and put at the moment but liquidity sucks. I don't recommend.
[2016-07-04 14:31:08] Rado : thanks
[2016-07-04 14:31:25] BuzzLightYear : Rado: no problem ;)
[2016-07-04 14:32:08] BuzzLightYear : i would play bustabit rather than playing with binary option :P