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[2016-06-30 12:15:16] Mr Blue : This isn't fair market trading
[2016-06-30 12:15:44] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: I am not sure I understand what you mean. XBJ24H settles every day at 12:00 UTC. At settlement all open orders are canceled, and all positions are closed
[2016-06-30 12:18:08] BitMEX_Wally : You had a buy order for 5000 contracts that was open from 11:57:23 UTC until 12:00:00 UTC exactly. It was never filled
[2016-06-30 12:18:28] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: well I'll put a support email in, and head to the forums, but seen as all data was cleared I have no prove, but I'm not stupid I seen what I seen, what happened to my three orders above the bots, one a buy for 5000 at 60000 the orders was placed, filled then changed lol, if was a mistake fair enough, but seems dirty market manipulation, why sell to me lol
[2016-06-30 12:18:51] BitMEX_Wally : No data has been cleared, the history is there
[2016-06-30 12:19:52] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: never filled, so the pop-up was of it cosing? Sorry I only made the orders 10 mins ago... not seen this 24h close your orders thing happen before?
[2016-06-30 12:20:03] BitMEX_Wally : Looking at the Recent Trades (XBJ24H) there were no trades between 11:48:49 and 12:00:00
[2016-06-30 12:20:07] Mr Blue : Closing
[2016-06-30 12:20:21] BitMEX_Wally : You get a popup when orders are canceled
[2016-06-30 12:20:47] hey : is there some popup history / notification history available?
[2016-06-30 12:21:10] NukeLaloosh : thanks Wally. So when the liq order is put on the book, in the case of a liq'd long, the sell is at a lower price than the liq price. does that difference between liq price and the sell order represent 0.5% ?
[2016-06-30 12:21:41] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: it's just my orders was the top three, seemed like I was sold to then never got the contacts, if true I'm really sorry for jumping the gun mate, but would of been nice profit so was mad lol
[2016-06-30 12:24:00] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: No problem, we run a fair market and do not let anyone front run orders
[2016-06-30 12:24:01] hey : could it have been the cancellation popups that tripped you, Mr Blue?
[2016-06-30 12:24:28] BitMEX_Wally : hey: There is not a history of notifications but there is a full history of all trades, orders, executions, etc available
[2016-06-30 12:24:39] hey : k thx
[2016-06-30 12:24:55] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: Correct
[2016-06-30 12:25:31] Mr Blue : hey: it could of been, yet at the same time 50 I was short disappeared, so clearly some of the three orders I placed low got sold to, I thought all but never got the contacts lol
[2016-06-30 12:26:31] hey : sounds to me like to short pos going away while the orders get cancelled at the same time, all due to expiry but i haven't experienced one myself so cannot say for sure.
[2016-06-30 12:26:59] rullwull : BitMEX_Wally: would be good to have notifications history as well
[2016-06-30 12:27:06] hey : +1
[2016-06-30 12:27:27] Mr Blue : hey: I wasn't thinking about any 24h thing, I'll keep a close eye on that in the future lol
[2016-06-30 12:27:47] hey : we're all learning
[2016-06-30 12:28:17] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: okay thanks for the support
[2016-06-30 12:28:41] Mr Blue : Sorry guys.... my bad lol
[2016-06-30 12:49:27] rapidtrades : dam bitcoin
[2016-06-30 12:49:51] rapidtrades : who knew it had it in him
[2016-06-30 12:57:34] ayy_lmao : rip this dude walling
[2016-06-30 12:57:36] ayy_lmao : get rekt
[2016-06-30 13:02:06] ayy_lmao : this dude walling so ahrd
[2016-06-30 13:02:35] macios15 : who?
[2016-06-30 13:03:17] sq : stay long guys
[2016-06-30 13:04:00] ayy_lmao : this guy on the sell side
[2016-06-30 13:04:02] ayy_lmao : xbt
[2016-06-30 13:13:07] RSFinance : Do you not have stop orders to open positions?
[2016-06-30 13:13:44] RSFinance : It let me put in the order and then when it was triggered it was rejected.
[2016-06-30 13:17:26] RSFinance : "Rejected: Order had execInst of Close and side of Sell but current position is -xxx"
[2016-06-30 13:17:54] cekseh : Did you have the box ticked that says "close on trigger"
[2016-06-30 13:17:58] cekseh : That would do it
[2016-06-30 13:18:15] kogroken : It's one devious box that
[2016-06-30 13:18:20] RSFinance : oh I do see that box
[2016-06-30 13:18:36] cekseh : Read the balloon tip on that one
[2016-06-30 13:18:40] cekseh : Kinda important
[2016-06-30 13:19:09] kogroken : The balloon should spell out more clearly that it actually causes all other orders to be canceled.
[2016-06-30 13:19:32] kogroken : It's certainly nothing one would expect to be on by default, yet it is ticked by default I believe.
[2016-06-30 13:19:48] kogroken : At least it was when they added it
[2016-06-30 13:20:22] cekseh : It does fairly plainly say that it cancels your other xbt orders
[2016-06-30 13:21:20] cekseh : uhhg I need caffeine
[2016-06-30 13:21:31] cekseh : zombie mode
[2016-06-30 13:22:43] kogroken : It does. It's just counter intuitive, who uses a single stop loss order?
[2016-06-30 13:22:59] kogroken : It will close your other stop loss orders as well, it seems.
[2016-06-30 13:24:42] RSFinance : yeah it shouldn't be on by default
[2016-06-30 13:32:12] kasman5 : i think more upside incoming
[2016-06-30 13:37:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5 @ 670.05
[2016-06-30 13:40:06] justinlooking : first rekt for 4 hours and it's a 5 lot
[2016-06-30 13:42:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 671.60
[2016-06-30 13:45:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7 @ 673.23
[2016-06-30 13:45:59] macios15 : china gov to buy bitcoin!
[2016-06-30 13:46:58] mbaril : go go go :) rekt more
[2016-06-30 13:47:12] kasman5 : see if we break 4500
[2016-06-30 13:47:15] kasman5 : cny
[2016-06-30 13:47:59] zanza : Corexit rally?
[2016-06-30 13:51:08] mbaril : its over ? come on we can do more than that
[2016-06-30 13:54:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 68799.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-30 13:59:02] BitMEX_Greg : Seems like some consolidation here
[2016-06-30 14:01:01] mbaril : BitMEX_Greg: hey hey Greg first time I see you :)
[2016-06-30 14:05:58] BitMEX_Greg : mbaril: Heya, been a bit busy recently. Hows it going
[2016-06-30 14:08:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.002029
[2016-06-30 14:08:44] mbaril : BitMEX_Greg: Going well. Having fun here. Nice place to trade. You are doing a great job.
[2016-06-30 14:11:49] BitMEX_Greg : Great to hear it, let me know if you have any questions
[2016-06-30 14:12:24] subjective : Why is ETH mark price lower than Polo?
[2016-06-30 14:13:32] d_ : Could be lag. Polo's site is lagging like crazy
[2016-06-30 14:15:21] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: the mark price includes the funding rate which is currently negative for ETHXBT
[2016-06-30 14:15:24] d_ : Actually, I take that back. On the ticker bar up top, it seems accurate. But mark price is much lower
[2016-06-30 14:16:12] subjective : Well, this is 0.00008 power than spot price.. going to have a lot of unhappy souls tonight
[2016-06-30 14:17:22] subjective : It means u get marked 5% lower than current spot..
[2016-06-30 14:17:47] BitMEX_Wally : 0.01849/ 0.01841 (Spot vs mark)
[2016-06-30 14:18:15] BitMEX_Wally : less than 0.5% lower
[2016-06-30 14:18:34] subjective : you are right, i missed a digit
[2016-06-30 14:20:01] BitMEX_Wally : the mark price decays towards the spot price, so in 3 hours it will be 0.25% below, and in 6 hours 0% below
[2016-06-30 14:20:56] d_ : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks for that clarification. Makes much more sense now than from when I read it in the docs.
[2016-06-30 14:21:22] macios15 : dump time
[2016-06-30 14:22:51] Tetsuo : pump failed
[2016-06-30 14:28:02] BitMEX_Greg : subjective: You can see the funding rate under the contract details tab
[2016-06-30 14:28:15] mbaril : that was a huge dump
[2016-06-30 14:28:34] Tedy. : So randome
[2016-06-30 14:28:44] Rune : did someone just dump to 650?
[2016-06-30 14:28:50] Rune : wtf
[2016-06-30 14:29:08] Rune : accident?
[2016-06-30 14:29:34] macios15 : jep
[2016-06-30 14:29:34] mbaril : yeah
[2016-06-30 14:29:35] Hawtdawg : Pretty surprised it rebounded so fast
[2016-06-30 14:29:38] macios15 : free money lol
[2016-06-30 14:29:50] Tedy. : and my pos sucked -.-
[2016-06-30 14:29:51] RoftheN : Lol wtf
[2016-06-30 14:29:52] mbaril : Well it was a missclick for sure. Who will dump to 650 for no reason
[2016-06-30 14:29:56] RoftheN : I wish I had some orders
[2016-06-30 14:30:04] Rune : I seen a btc-e accident dump to 100 USD when the price was like 700
[2016-06-30 14:30:13] mbaril : loll OMG
[2016-06-30 14:30:13] Rune : crazy
[2016-06-30 14:30:22] Tedy. : stop loss maybe ? and went wrong
[2016-06-30 14:30:23] Hawtdawg : @Rune I remember that
[2016-06-30 14:30:26] XBTXBTXBT : I market closed a 200k usd long accidently ROFL
[2016-06-30 14:30:33] XBTXBTXBT : lost like 3 btc
[2016-06-30 14:30:44] Rune : wow
[2016-06-30 14:30:57] macios15 : XBTXBTXBT: thx
[2016-06-30 14:31:08] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: this dump ?
[2016-06-30 14:31:14] XBTXBTXBT : yup
[2016-06-30 14:31:20] Tedy. : I feel sad for you
[2016-06-30 14:31:39] Tedy. : You were going to set price and clicked wrong i guess ?
[2016-06-30 14:31:43] Rune : maybe he can afford it
[2016-06-30 14:31:47] XBTXBTXBT : Yeah really not that big of a deal
[2016-06-30 14:32:02] RoftheN : 200000 usd not big of a deal, you sound rich
[2016-06-30 14:32:20] Rune : he only lost 3 bitcoins
[2016-06-30 14:32:31] XBTXBTXBT : This is a leveraged based website 200k usd is 5k usd
[2016-06-30 14:32:31] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: Haha maybe you just have a bigger stack then the rest of us xD
[2016-06-30 14:32:33] Rune : 200000 contracts sold into market
[2016-06-30 14:32:41] Tedy. : or maybe he is in good proffit and just wanted out
[2016-06-30 14:32:59] mbaril : XBTXBTXBT: you can do that whenever you want :P
[2016-06-30 14:33:08] XBTXBTXBT : I made a total of 15 btc dont feel bad fellas it was just 3
[2016-06-30 14:33:12] Rune : I wish I got some of that
[2016-06-30 14:33:57] Tedy. : XBTXBTXBT: Haha cool, gz dude ^^
[2016-06-30 14:35:21] mbaril : XBTXBTXBT: you are buying back you 200k
[2016-06-30 14:35:39] XBTXBTXBT : ofc not
[2016-06-30 14:35:52] Tedy. : That would just be stupid
[2016-06-30 14:36:01] Rune : lol
[2016-06-30 14:36:04] mbaril : ok because there is soem buy :P
[2016-06-30 14:36:07] Rune : sell low buy high
[2016-06-30 14:36:09] XBTXBTXBT : i mean i was closing for a reason i just clicked market
[2016-06-30 14:36:25] Tedy. : Are you on traidingview ? @XBTXBTXBT
[2016-06-30 14:36:30] XBTXBTXBT : no
[2016-06-30 14:37:06] huangyong : 。。
[2016-06-30 14:37:07] Tedy. : Would have been cool to see the grafs you were making tho
[2016-06-30 14:39:44] Rune : it's pretty simple
[2016-06-30 14:41:59] XBTXBTXBT : wonder if the markets gonna start getting irrational
[2016-06-30 14:45:03] Rune : apparently china is gonna miners are gonna fork
[2016-06-30 14:45:09] Rune : to 2mb limit
[2016-06-30 14:45:23] Rune : price should dive
[2016-06-30 14:45:34] cekseh : Are people actually taking that seriously?
[2016-06-30 14:45:40] cekseh : Facinating
[2016-06-30 14:46:18] mbaril : Im curious to see if all china miners go to 2mb what will happen
[2016-06-30 14:47:18] Blargwaffle : Core dump, huh? Impressive.
[2016-06-30 14:47:22] RoftheN : Why price d
[2016-06-30 14:47:30] RoftheN : What's wrong with 2 MB?
[2016-06-30 14:47:44] Rune : noting is wrong with it
[2016-06-30 14:47:49] RoftheN : Then why is core so against it?
[2016-06-30 14:47:57] Rune : but any time there is anything to do with a fork ppl sell
[2016-06-30 14:49:12] mbaril : 2mb is wrong because it will be harder for everyone to operate a node
[2016-06-30 14:49:35] cekseh : There's an entity called blockstream that has a bunch of devs in it's pocket, and it runs counter to their business model to increase
[2016-06-30 14:50:12] mbaril : Just to be clear im not for or against the 2 mb just saying the fact
[2016-06-30 14:50:20] cekseh : Making bitcoin more accessible fucks with their potential profits
[2016-06-30 14:50:36] mbaril : cekseh: I do not agree with you
[2016-06-30 14:50:48] Rune : mbaril: not really
[2016-06-30 14:50:49] mbaril : Bitcoin is suppoce to be decentralised. We already have a mining that become centralised
[2016-06-30 14:50:53] cekseh : mbaril is also sort of correct, but it isn't the insurmountable barrier he seems to think it is
[2016-06-30 14:51:07] mbaril : now if the block are getting to big, no one will be able to have a nodes
[2016-06-30 14:51:10] cekseh : Technically it will take more resources though
[2016-06-30 14:51:12] mbaril : and so centralisation of the node
[2016-06-30 14:51:20] Rune : not every 2mb block will be full right away
[2016-06-30 14:51:25] mbaril : I agree
[2016-06-30 14:51:29] mbaril : but it could be
[2016-06-30 14:51:34] Rune : it wont be
[2016-06-30 14:51:43] mbaril : like I said, im not for or against the 2mb im just saying some fact
[2016-06-30 14:51:44] mbaril : ;)
[2016-06-30 14:52:06] mbaril : There is also the problem of transmission
[2016-06-30 14:52:10] Blargwaffle : I'm for lower fees and a smaller mempool.
[2016-06-30 14:52:15] mbaril : we already have some problem of transmission with 1mb block
[2016-06-30 14:52:16] Rune : harddrives are cheaper now
[2016-06-30 14:52:39] mbaril : its not hte hardrive the problem but the bandwith
[2016-06-30 14:52:57] Rune : dial up?
[2016-06-30 14:53:35] mbaril : ??
[2016-06-30 14:53:39] mbaril : what do you mean
[2016-06-30 14:53:55] mbaril : the problem is the speed of propagation of the block around the world
[2016-06-30 14:54:19] mbaril : I was at scaling bitcoin and blue matt explained very well the problem of propagation
[2016-06-30 14:55:01] d_ : also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds
[2016-06-30 14:55:22] d_ : check out china at a whopping avg. 3.7 Mb/s
[2016-06-30 14:57:56] RoftheN : Top 5, not bad
[2016-06-30 14:58:06] mbaril : the problem is not internet speed guys
[2016-06-30 14:58:15] mbaril : you need to understand how blockchain work
[2016-06-30 14:58:43] mbaril : the propagation is important to eliminate orphan block. and to make sure we do not create bad branch
[2016-06-30 14:59:59] mbaril : anyway 1mb or 2mb we need to get higher fee. because if not miners will stop secure the chain
[2016-06-30 15:00:19] Rune : with 2mb we will have more transactions
[2016-06-30 15:00:19] mbaril : fees is suppoce to replace block rewards
[2016-06-30 15:00:23] d_ : But doesn't internet bandwidth play a role in block propagation?
[2016-06-30 15:00:26] Rune : so there will be more fees paid
[2016-06-30 15:00:29] mbaril : more transaction at less fee
[2016-06-30 15:00:47] Rune : for a short time
[2016-06-30 15:00:54] RoftheN : So how do we up the transaction fees?
[2016-06-30 15:00:58] mbaril : d_: yes it play a role but so far internet speed is not the main problem in block propagation
[2016-06-30 15:00:58] cekseh : more transaction at less fee is great
[2016-06-30 15:01:11] mbaril : cekseh: you are thinking only for yourself
[2016-06-30 15:01:12] cekseh : If you want more fees we should just reduce blocksize to 100kb
[2016-06-30 15:01:19] mbaril : miners are the one that secure the network
[2016-06-30 15:01:24] RoftheN : We should just up the transaction fees after 2 halvings, when it actually matters
[2016-06-30 15:01:26] d_ : The way I currently understand it, the problem is that the big miners in China are at a disadvantage because they receive new blocks slowly.
[2016-06-30 15:01:40] mbaril : d_: false
[2016-06-30 15:01:52] mbaril : since they got more than 75% of the mining power they get block faster
[2016-06-30 15:01:55] Rune : after we upgrade the block size then fill up a 2 mb block evantually they will be getting way more in fees
[2016-06-30 15:02:00] mbaril : rest of the world get block slowly
[2016-06-30 15:02:09] d_ : oo. well let me read up on what you guys are saying and catch up on the issue
[2016-06-30 15:02:31] mbaril : Rune: so when 2mb is full we will go to 4mb and so on ?
[2016-06-30 15:02:53] mbaril : we need to find a solution, a real one. instead of just fighting between more space or more fees
[2016-06-30 15:03:17] cekseh : Good enough for now*
[2016-06-30 15:03:24] Rune : yes as the internet scales we will scale bitcoin
[2016-06-30 15:03:28] cekseh : situations change, reevaluation will be needed bro
[2016-06-30 15:03:36] cekseh : You can't make a choice now that will hold forever
[2016-06-30 15:03:54] mbaril : cekseh: yes I do agree with that but goign to 2 mb is only a temporary solution
[2016-06-30 15:04:03] rapidtrades : in case anyone missed it, usd/cnh spiked to 6.70 today before the PBOC sold a crapton into it
[2016-06-30 15:04:09] mbaril : And I prefer to work to find a better solution. segwit is a good start
[2016-06-30 15:04:41] mbaril : we need to review the code and make it clean
[2016-06-30 15:04:48] mbaril : anyway :P nice discussion guys
[2016-06-30 15:05:02] cekseh : 2mb buys bitcoin a (relatively) significant portion of time to find and refine those solutions
[2016-06-30 15:05:15] Rune : 2 mb wont be full for years
[2016-06-30 15:05:22] cekseh : With practically zero negative effect
[2016-06-30 15:05:30] cekseh : Despite the naysayers
[2016-06-30 15:05:34] Rune : and in 4-5 years the internet will be more robust
[2016-06-30 15:06:25] Rune : https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/29/google-backed-undersea-cable-between-us-and-japan-goes-online-tonight/
[2016-06-30 15:06:27] cekseh : And if you think bitcoin will last it's valuation will go up, so long as people think it is useful
[2016-06-30 15:06:36] cekseh : Rune I just read that.... =D
[2016-06-30 15:06:52] cekseh : Big addition to our "series of tubes"
[2016-06-30 15:07:11] Rune : as technology allows we can slowly upgrade the blocksize
[2016-06-30 15:07:24] Rune : 2 mb is possible now so lets do it now
[2016-06-30 15:09:01] BitMEX_Sam : This is a great thing imo
[2016-06-30 15:09:05] cekseh : And nobody is advocating increasing blocksize indefinitely, it is a goodenoughfornow solution though, that only has such negative response for the same reason that people get offended when you question their religion
[2016-06-30 15:09:21] mbaril : we will see what will happen with terminator plan :P
[2016-06-30 15:09:23] cekseh : Close minded predispositions, and the inability to accept there may be another way
[2016-06-30 15:09:38] cekseh : Terminator plan is a farce
[2016-06-30 15:09:55] cekseh : (imo)
[2016-06-30 15:10:08] mbaril : cekseh: ;)
[2016-06-30 15:11:38] laisee : Terminator will be back
[2016-06-30 15:15:45] STRML : IRC bouncer is back up
[2016-06-30 15:15:53] Hawtdawg : The Reddit thread that made the terminator announcement has been deleted as FUD
[2016-06-30 15:16:18] Adura_ : On the censored subreddit.
[2016-06-30 15:16:48] Hawtdawg : https://redd.it/4qleza
[2016-06-30 15:18:06] Rado : nice $30 advance for BTC
[2016-06-30 15:19:14] Hawtdawg : Interesting how BTC is somewhat immune to news these days. Everyone is so used to "the sky s falling"
[2016-06-30 15:19:57] Rado : BTC is a real free market
[2016-06-30 15:20:11] Rado : so it responds based on demand and supply
[2016-06-30 15:20:15] Rado : not like stock market
[2016-06-30 15:21:20] cekseh : Lol
[2016-06-30 15:21:42] cekseh : You will find a lot of people that disagree that bitcoin is immune to news
[2016-06-30 15:22:02] Rune : bitcoin lives on news
[2016-06-30 15:22:20] cekseh : Bitcoiners in particular have a tendancy to do great mental gymnastics to find patterns and cause/effect for bitcoin movement
[2016-06-30 15:22:21] Rune : I guess less so recently
[2016-06-30 15:22:26] cekseh : Other than people just trying to make money
[2016-06-30 15:22:56] cekseh : A guy in china farted, thats why price dumped 10$
[2016-06-30 15:23:43] cekseh : My dog started barking before price went up this morning, and my dog just started barking again
[2016-06-30 15:23:50] cekseh : Thus price is about to jump. Go long.
[2016-06-30 15:28:59] Mr Blue : I'm about to have a big Mac, last time I had one price dropped $9 lmao... ye I'm stuck short ?
[2016-06-30 15:29:41] Hawtdawg : Big Mac sounds delish
[2016-06-30 15:29:50] cekseh : +1, fomoing short
[2016-06-30 15:30:30] Mr Blue : Hawtdawg: well I have that to look forward to at least lol, brb guys
[2016-06-30 15:31:20] Rado : Mr Blue: how come you are shorting?
[2016-06-30 15:31:28] Rado : I thought you were a BTC bull
[2016-06-30 15:31:40] cekseh : Big Mac indicator, keep up.
[2016-06-30 15:33:29] Mr Blue : Rado: because I get greedy and try catch both directions lol, next time I'm long as thinking $800 before block halving maybe more
[2016-06-30 15:34:20] Rado : you can still catch both sides, but don't short when BTC is down :-)
[2016-06-30 15:34:41] Mr Blue : I don't ?
[2016-06-30 15:37:29] Rado : cool
[2016-06-30 15:37:35] Rado : where is mr rapidtrades?
[2016-06-30 15:41:30] Mr Blue : Rado: not sure but he's prob long
[2016-06-30 15:50:23] Rado : he he
[2016-06-30 15:50:28] Rado : he is always long
[2016-06-30 15:50:38] Rado : I have some Sept contracts
[2016-06-30 16:09:02] rapidtrades : whos long
[2016-06-30 16:09:51] mbaril : I need a small retract before going long
[2016-06-30 16:15:13] rapidtrades : carney sank the pound lower....what a
[2016-06-30 16:15:18] rapidtrades : twat
[2016-06-30 16:15:45] rapidtrades : GUYS OUR CURRENCY IS DOWN 10% WHAT DO WE DO...OH I KNOW MORE EASING
[2016-06-30 16:15:52] rapidtrades : what a f moron man
[2016-06-30 16:16:26] rapidtrades : that's all these ppl can do now...one trick pnies
[2016-06-30 16:16:30] rapidtrades : ponies*
[2016-06-30 16:18:46] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-06-30 16:18:57] Mr Blue : Lmao you know just how to brighten up a shorters day, if I was long I'd agreed, but for now I'm going to slap my face in the mirror
[2016-06-30 16:19:07] rapidtrades : PBOC: Herro our economeh is troubles, do we fixeh it? NO DEVALUE
[2016-06-30 16:20:49] RoftheN : I should buy GBP, who knows I might go to the UK again for a cheap holiday
[2016-06-30 16:23:01] rapidtrades : also bloomberg reports that the ECB may have to loosen QE buying rules
[2016-06-30 16:23:30] rapidtrades : apparently buying junk corporate bonds isn't loose enough
[2016-06-30 16:34:22] tscha : what about this Chinese mining agreement? are they really going to switch?
[2016-06-30 16:41:27] elmorte : That would be pretty epic
[2016-06-30 16:47:43] Rado : rapidtrades: did you trade this dump on the pound?
[2016-06-30 16:49:53] blurrrrrp : tscha: Where did you read about that?
[2016-06-30 16:50:00] tscha : blurrrrrp: /r/btc
[2016-06-30 16:50:04] ayy_lmao : time to margin call some plebs
[2016-06-30 16:51:29] ayy_lmao : huehuehue
[2016-06-30 17:02:57] Rado : premium is back
[2016-06-30 17:03:03] Rado : +$5
[2016-06-30 17:03:27] luckynuke : whaaat picked 800 almost :o
[2016-06-30 17:16:15] wotan : brexit was long planed i have proof
[2016-06-30 17:16:30] wotan : it was planed on the exact date
[2016-06-30 17:18:27] macios15 : sell time
[2016-06-30 17:20:02] fineregex : wotan: because of GBP 1,5001 + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union#/media/File:UK_EU_referendum_polling.svg ?
[2016-06-30 17:20:30] fineregex : guys why dow 18000, 17000, 18000, what's the joke?
[2016-06-30 17:20:40] fineregex : *DOW
[2016-06-30 17:20:41] wotan : fingerex its big planed event
[2016-06-30 17:21:06] wotan : on 29 september 2008 dow had biggest fall in points with 777
[2016-06-30 17:21:40] wotan : 7 years 7 months 7 weeks 7 days later brexit results kick in and stock crash (24, juni 2016)
[2016-06-30 17:21:53] wotan : do the math its exact date
[2016-06-30 17:22:08] wotan : cameron first said 2017 exit then he changed iot to this date
[2016-06-30 17:22:25] wotan : that sinside info i give you here:)
[2016-06-30 17:22:36] fineregex : wasnt like "before/until 2017"?
[2016-06-30 17:23:13] fineregex : i read the 'inside info it already^^
[2016-06-30 17:23:21] wotan : what matters is that they choose exact this date
[2016-06-30 17:23:46] fineregex : must be good, when cocacola and macdonalds (=DOW) are worth fewer $ ? ^^
[2016-06-30 17:23:48] wotan : hehe ncie then your informed good too
[2016-06-30 17:24:31] wotan : silve rnew daily high wow
[2016-06-30 17:24:42] wotan : 18,54 dollar
[2016-06-30 17:25:36] wotan : right now im watching deutshce bank and other banks closely db for example is tradet at all time low
[2016-06-30 17:26:50] BitMEX_Greg : wotan: Did you see that Deutsche failed the Fed stress test?
[2016-06-30 17:30:07] wotan : yes Bitmex_Greg
[2016-06-30 17:31:18] wotan : andf they hold alot of derivates those derivates worldwide are a ticking bomb imo
[2016-06-30 17:33:01] BitMEX_Greg : Yep, they are in for quite a bit of pain if sh*t starts to break out
[2016-06-30 17:37:02] tscha : deutsche failing the stress test is business as usual
[2016-06-30 17:37:28] wotan : very interesting will be how bitcoin will be when things start to shake more
[2016-06-30 17:37:41] tscha : it's part of their corporate identity
[2016-06-30 17:38:30] wotan : tscha so you say all is good or you say its normal that all is bad?
[2016-06-30 17:38:51] tscha : it's normal that all is bad
[2016-06-30 17:40:08] wotan : :) i know what you mean yes
[2016-06-30 17:41:51] wotan : since bexit i have the feeling they want to do more chaos, something is in the air, and most ppl are far away to be prepared for it
[2016-06-30 18:09:04] Tedy. : Interessting to see if we are still going to follow the green line now
[2016-06-30 18:09:13] Tedy. : Would expect a pump very soon then
[2016-06-30 18:14:04] macios15 : 0 volume at okcoin
[2016-06-30 18:22:21] fineregex : yay, going to get +0.5678% ETH
[2016-06-30 18:23:08] fineregex : more than my bitcoin long costs, even it is bigger
[2016-06-30 18:26:04] Mr Blue : Sure buddy
[2016-06-30 18:36:36] fineregex : yayayay
[2016-06-30 19:01:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6500 @ 667.40
[2016-06-30 19:06:58] justinlooking : go polski!
[2016-06-30 19:12:04] tscha : justinlooking: I'm for poland too
[2016-06-30 19:19:08] justinlooking : tscha: my shitcoin profits are covering my sportbetting losses! proper degenerate gambling here...
[2016-06-30 19:19:26] tscha : justinlooking: hahaha :)
[2016-06-30 19:34:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 32001 @ 666.13 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-30 19:36:43] Mr Blue : Boooom
[2016-06-30 19:37:40] fineregex : how is that possible?
[2016-06-30 19:38:14] fineregex : they bought at 670? initial margin 100?
[2016-06-30 19:38:36] fineregex : *leverage
[2016-06-30 19:40:15] Mr Blue : fineregex: must of been x50 leverage at 676 entry
[2016-06-30 19:40:28] fineregex : why?
[2016-06-30 19:40:44] fineregex : you guys dont use cross leverage?
[2016-06-30 19:42:08] Mr Blue : fineregex: because on x50 you only get like $10 before liquidation, it dropped buy than that and they didn't buy more to lower entry so must of got liquidated
[2016-06-30 19:42:13] ayy_lmao : some people just like getting rekt
[2016-06-30 19:42:39] Mr Blue : fineregex: some people use cross, I personally like x10
[2016-06-30 19:43:23] Mr Blue : Or x15 ? been using x50 on Yen market sometimes
[2016-06-30 19:45:15] Mr Blue : Dropped more than*
[2016-06-30 19:49:14] fineregex : is it possible to make 3 orders in one second?
[2016-06-30 19:49:24] fineregex : i just manage 2
[2016-06-30 19:49:51] ayy_lmao : funding fees will be the death of me
[2016-06-30 19:50:11] fineregex : buy ethereum
[2016-06-30 19:50:27] fineregex : so you get 0.567%
[2016-06-30 19:50:33] ayy_lmao : noooooo
[2016-06-30 19:50:54] ayy_lmao : lol @ that eth fee
[2016-06-30 19:51:09] ayy_lmao : you got a decent entry?
[2016-06-30 19:51:37] fineregex : yes
[2016-06-30 19:51:41] fineregex : i sold my ethereum meant to held for it
[2016-06-30 19:52:20] fineregex : so i dont care entry price was 0.0195
[2016-06-30 19:53:12] fineregex : because sale price at poloniex was 0.0196 or so
[2016-06-30 19:53:37] Mr Blue : It's lower than that, so you sold at a loss? Or when it peaked at 0.02 this morning
[2016-06-30 19:55:37] fineregex : i sold and bought at once
[2016-06-30 19:55:45] fineregex : mainly
[2016-06-30 19:55:48] fineregex : just for the interest rate
[2016-06-30 19:57:31] fineregex : yet such should be done & undone automatically since interest rate can change soon :D
[2016-06-30 19:58:08] Mr Blue : fineregex: erm okay buddy, as long as your having fun that's the main thing, but I wouldn't go past x2 if I was trying a trade with Eth, been spanked before with that one
[2016-06-30 19:59:14] Mr Blue : fineregex: you long or short Bitcoin?
[2016-06-30 20:00:52] ayy_lmao : 0.3 btc in funding lol
[2016-06-30 20:01:47] Mr Blue : ayy_lmao: harsh what you got like a million contacts?
[2016-06-30 20:03:54] fineregex : the rate is 0.3% :(
[2016-06-30 20:05:26] ayy_lmao : prob gonna switch to okc soon, hard to do large size here without getting chipped by funding
[2016-06-30 20:06:38] RoftheN : Why is the funding so high today
[2016-06-30 20:06:53] ayy_lmao : demand for longs is high
[2016-06-30 20:06:58] d_ : It's ridiculously high -_-
[2016-06-30 20:07:34] ayy_lmao : one time is was 1% lol
[2016-06-30 20:07:38] ayy_lmao : it*
[2016-06-30 20:09:08] ayy_lmao : i wouldn't mind paying 0.3 btc every 24 hours, but 0.9 btc per day + fees is harsh
[2016-06-30 20:09:50] d_ : OKC has better rates?
[2016-06-30 20:10:02] ayy_lmao : there is no funding there
[2016-06-30 20:10:13] d_ : Oh.
[2016-06-30 20:10:17] ayy_lmao : you just have to deal with settlements every week or 3 months
[2016-06-30 20:13:43] d_ : Hmm. I really like this exchange. But there are def. a couple of things I could do without. The 8 hr interest is one, and it is brutal. I'll likely start researching other exchanges soon, but I have a feeling there will be other aspects that suck. Aside from the 8 hr interest charges, 1/day withdrawals, and daily rebalancing, I'm pretty happy with this exchange. And the mods that frequent this chat are pretty responsive and helpful.
[2016-06-30 20:14:31] ayy_lmao : DPE + funding + fees = rekt
[2016-06-30 20:15:02] d_ : lol. One feature I like about this place is the rekt bot
[2016-06-30 20:15:30] jung1 : yeah its cool
[2016-06-30 20:15:37] ayy_lmao : x50 is the only draw here, but i rarely go over 20x
[2016-06-30 20:15:42] jung1 : always good to watch how people loose nomey
[2016-06-30 20:16:53] Mr Blue : ayy_lmao: yen market has been good to me, and has x100 who wouldn't think yen is going down against btc lol
[2016-06-30 20:18:27] Mr Blue : Only problem is first time I shorted thinking I was shorting yen lol but turns out you must buy in order to short Yen
[2016-06-30 20:19:41] jung1 : Mr Blue: you still shorting yen?
[2016-06-30 20:20:31] Mr Blue : jung1: ye I'm +400 contacts at 68977.1
[2016-06-30 20:22:23] Mr Blue : Also got out of my btc short then profited with a quick long, now just waiting to buy in again
[2016-06-30 20:22:58] sq : Mr Blue: stay long man
[2016-06-30 20:23:33] Mr Blue : sq: will do mate block reward halving month tomorrow
[2016-06-30 20:23:41] sq : yeh
[2016-06-30 20:25:08] jung1 : imo real pump will be after haling
[2016-06-30 20:25:53] Mr Blue : jung1: ye but we might see 850 before the halving ?
[2016-06-30 20:26:08] jung1 : or 550 again
[2016-06-30 20:27:30] Mr Blue : jung1: possibly but I think big fish can wait for $1000 after all the buying they've done in my imagination lol
[2016-06-30 20:27:45] jung1 : http://imgur.com/BLbBZlZ
[2016-06-30 20:27:48] jung1 : thats my bet
[2016-06-30 20:28:41] Mr Blue : jung1: 760 would be fine by me now I'm long lol
[2016-06-30 20:30:02] Mr Blue : Would be good for the Chinese to get out of 4000 Yuan they don't like the number 4 I believe
[2016-06-30 20:30:36] Mr Blue : So ye 5000+ would be nice lol
[2016-06-30 20:36:46] jung1 : or 3000
[2016-06-30 20:37:26] Mr Blue : jung1: that wouldn't be nice for me lol
[2016-06-30 20:57:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 41 @ 68590.0
[2016-06-30 20:57:53] jung1 : Mr Blue: cny here seems corelated with bitcoin price
[2016-06-30 20:57:56] jung1 : as I can see
[2016-06-30 20:58:28] Tetsuo : BTC lower and lower - into the deep tracts of hell! No support only a massive 45 million big margin long credit bubble going on@finex. This will end bad. Even the halving hype and brexit can´t save BTC from the inevitable crash
[2016-06-30 20:59:34] jung1 : Tetsuo: cant complain
[2016-06-30 20:59:38] jung1 : until I can short here
[2016-06-30 20:59:47] justinlooking : that's the last time i'm buying multi-corners, long at 25, settled at 122. fukin ouch
[2016-06-30 20:59:47] Tetsuo : :-)
[2016-06-30 20:59:49] Tetsuo : :-D
[2016-06-30 20:59:54] justinlooking : *12
[2016-06-30 21:00:52] jung1 : this year should be ready also dnbcoin
[2016-06-30 21:01:04] jung1 : and its not drum and bass money
[2016-06-30 21:01:23] jung1 : http://www.coindesk.com/dutch-central-bank-to-create-dnbcoin-prototype/
[2016-06-30 21:01:32] jung1 : this will kill bitcoin
[2016-06-30 21:01:56] jung1 : or at least make gobitcoin to mainstream impossible
[2016-06-30 21:03:30] nip : my factums just keep going up ** :) **
[2016-06-30 21:03:50] nip : wish i could say the same for eth
[2016-06-30 21:04:48] jung1 : eth is still overpump by dao
[2016-06-30 21:08:10] jung1 : how cool it would be if after another financial crisis DOGE would be world currency
[2016-06-30 21:10:34] justinlooking : such wow
[2016-06-30 21:21:12] sq : where is a gd place to keep track of bitcoin news? coindesk?
[2016-06-30 21:24:35] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: what was going on with the API at 12 UTC? I was getting response '400 mark' but the orders were still placed?
[2016-06-30 21:26:02] BitMEX_Sam : "400 mark"?
[2016-06-30 21:26:12] BitMEX_Sam : Was it exactly at 12:00 UTC?
[2016-06-30 21:26:52] micmix : 2016-06-30T11:51:55.602Z BitMEX: API returned '400 mark'
[2016-06-30 21:27:13] micmix : '400 mark' was the whole HTTP reply
[2016-06-30 21:27:35] micmix : 2016-06-30T12:04:49.823Z BitMEX: API returned 400 s
[2016-06-30 21:27:43] micmix : '400 s' another
[2016-06-30 21:27:51] BitMEX_Sam : Hang on.
[2016-06-30 21:28:24] micmix : it was going on from 2016-06-30T11:51:55.602Z to 2016-06-30T12:05:33.994Z
[2016-06-30 21:29:06] BitMEX_Sam : How many of these did you receive?
[2016-06-30 21:29:47] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see the error. Just a few minutes, investigating
[2016-06-30 21:30:06] micmix : hundreds
[2016-06-30 21:31:58] micmix : that cost me couple of coins on both accounts
[2016-06-30 21:34:41] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Investigating this, going to get in touch with Wally
[2016-06-30 21:35:09] turtlefight : jung1: i also believe there could be a bigger dump ahead
[2016-06-30 21:35:18] turtlefight : but its not easy to play it
[2016-06-30 21:35:41] turtlefight : the markets can stay longer irrational than you can stay solvent^^
[2016-06-30 21:40:13] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I'll send you an email when we have an explanation. I'm reading two disruptions, one 11:52:01Z to 11:54:13Z, another 12:04:56Z to 12:05:42Z
[2016-06-30 21:40:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 376 @ 69293.0
[2016-06-30 21:42:07] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: this account had the worth of it
[2016-06-30 22:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.01874
[2016-06-30 22:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1 @ 0.01870 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-30 23:06:07] justinlooking : 700 next
[2016-06-30 23:06:16] ayy_lmao : good
[2016-06-30 23:06:30] ayy_lmao : i didnt pay that 0.2% fee funding for nothing
[2016-06-30 23:06:37] lockhedge : great charts to see Bitcoin OTC demand in emerging markets https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/VEF
[2016-06-30 23:06:38] justinlooking : lol
[2016-06-30 23:07:26] lockhedge : https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins
[2016-06-30 23:09:34] zanza : Is Corexit happening?
[2016-06-30 23:23:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Is there an API call to get the next predicted funding rate?
[2016-06-30 23:24:59] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: If you get the instrument from `/api/v1/instrument`, it's the field `indicativeFundingRate`
[2016-06-30 23:29:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Thanks @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-30 23:43:18] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Funding rate is negative for shorts, just wondering why I'm being charged funding rate?
[2016-06-30 23:44:27] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: last funding rate was -0.24xxx or something. I was charged I think.
[2016-06-30 23:46:10] BitMEX_Arthur : dharmabum: Which product are you referring to?
[2016-06-30 23:46:34] dharmabum : XBTUSD
[2016-06-30 23:46:39] dharmabum : BitMEX_Arthur: XBTUSD
[2016-06-30 23:56:46] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-06-30 23:57:09] BitMEX_Arthur : The last funding rate was +0.1988% at 04:00 UTC July 1
[2016-06-30 23:57:17] BitMEX_Arthur : meaning that longs paid shorts
[2016-06-30 23:57:33] BitMEX_Sam : You received funding, you were not charged it
[2016-06-30 23:57:46] BitMEX_Sam : A negative fee is a credit.
[2016-06-30 23:58:24] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks both of you for checking.
[2016-06-30 23:59:02] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: I'm looking at my transaction history. Is the funding the "Fee" or "Amount" column?
[2016-06-30 23:59:43] d_ : BitMEX_Sam: Negative funding rate is shorts paying longs, right? Referring to ETHXBT, in particular.
[2016-07-01 00:00:06] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Are the last 3 CashRebalances correct? They all cover the current short position.
[2016-07-01 00:00:37] BitMEX_Sam : dharmabum: It's the fee column on the trade history.
[2016-07-01 00:01:12] BitMEX_Sam : d_: Yes, negative funding means shorts pay longs
[2016-07-01 00:01:22] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Hmm. My Fee column shows zeros all the way fown forever.
[2016-07-01 00:01:25] d_ : ty
[2016-07-01 00:01:37] BitMEX_Sam : Trade history dharmabum
[2016-07-01 00:01:39] BitMEX_Sam : Not Wallet History
[2016-07-01 00:01:42] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Wow, above you say "A negative fee is a credit."
[2016-07-01 00:01:47] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-07-01 00:01:53] BitMEX_Sam : dharmabum: Those are two separate things I'm referring to
[2016-07-01 00:01:55] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: Will check!
[2016-07-01 00:03:06] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: So "Fee Paid" is positive for me if the figure is negative :-) ?
[2016-07-01 00:04:30] BitMEX_Sam : It's the amount paid
[2016-07-01 00:04:34] BitMEX_Sam : If you paid a negative amount, you received money
[2016-07-01 00:04:54] subjective : When I hold XBTUSD and eTHXBT
[2016-07-01 00:05:02] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: I must be conflating things. In the wallet Transaction History I'm getting nailed on CashRebalance. Could you be so kind as to summarise why I'm confused about this? Thank you!
[2016-07-01 00:05:29] BitMEX_Sam : If you're seeing debits that means that your trades during that period lost money
[2016-07-01 00:06:05] dharmabum : BitMEX_Sam: For a single open position? I have a current hedge in place that is bleeding currency, correct?
[2016-07-01 00:06:15] subjective : if I have two position XBT and ETH with same value of contract, do they cancel each others funding because one is positive and other negative.?
[2016-07-01 00:06:41] BitMEX_Arthur : dharmabum: Give me a minute I'm looking at your account
[2016-07-01 00:07:08] BitMEX_Greg : subjective: It depends on the funding amount on each product. Normally XBTUSD funding will not be the same as the ETHXBT funding
[2016-07-01 00:07:59] dharmabum : BitMEX_Arthur: Thanks Arthur. Basically I have a BTC hedge in place. My current understanding is that the CashRebalances are realised profit/loss on current position.
[2016-07-01 00:08:44] subjective : BitMEX_Greg: let's say 1btc with at 5x for each position. BTC funding at 0.025% ETH at -0.49%
[2016-07-01 00:10:22] BitMEX_Arthur : dharmabum: You are short XBTUSD, you have a negative cash rebalance because the market is rising so you are losing money on that position
[2016-07-01 00:10:51] subjective : BitMEX_Greg: looks like it cancel each other out
[2016-07-01 00:12:07] subjective : BitMEX_Greg: actually receive some funding on the ETH position, if funding rate is mostly negative correlate with 2 coins. Then holding both reduce funding fees
[2016-07-01 00:12:11] BitMEX_Arthur : However, because you are short you are receiving funding because at the last funding time the rate was +0.1988% meaning as a short holder you received a funding payment
[2016-07-01 00:12:25] BitMEX_Arthur : dharmabum: does that make sense?
[2016-07-01 00:12:41] Zen Trader : rektt
[2016-07-01 00:13:29] BitMEX_Greg : subjective: We don't net the funding, we reserve the position level at the current moment
[2016-07-01 00:14:29] dharmabum : BitMEX_Arthur: I think so. I just need to work out if I'm correctly hedged. If I am, the hedge losses should be perfectly balanced against the appreciation of the equivalent amount of XBTUSD (when the hedge was entered). Is my understanding right?
[2016-07-01 00:15:06] dharmabum : BitMEX_Arthur: Actually, given the hedge is short XBTUSD, it should actually make a very small amount as long as funding is negative.