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[2016-06-25 00:29:14] rapidtrades : markets haven't had so many stupid stupid actors in long time...i blame QE
[2016-06-25 00:29:57] rapidtrades : too many morans made tons of money with 0 skill....we need another 08 type culling
[2016-06-25 00:31:32] rapidtrades : boolander: anyway how did ur day go lol
[2016-06-25 00:36:44] boolander : niice. gold & mining stocks traded up and took short-term profits was it. all bitcorn gains were pretty much pre-brexit and took my gross down and reduced leverage. see how the dust starts settling over the weekend. close eye on ZH for those "bankers work all weekend to fix their VAR after getting rekt" headlines. ;-)
[2016-06-25 00:59:55] songxf : BitMEX_Sam: Hey are you still here?
[2016-06-25 01:00:10] songxf : How do I get the current funding rate?
[2016-06-25 01:02:24] songxf : @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-25 01:02:39] chromaticcr1 : bottom left
[2016-06-25 01:03:19] chromaticcr1 : if it is positive, long pays, short receive. Vice versa for negative
[2016-06-25 01:03:22] songxf : Thx @chromaticcr1 but that number is different than https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-06-25 01:03:31] songxf : ( I am looking at XBTUSD)
[2016-06-25 01:03:58] chromaticcr1 : rate changes every 8 hours
[2016-06-25 01:06:29] songxf : Right - understand this. But the rate I am going to be charged in 3 hours is the rate published on funding history 5 hours ago
[2016-06-25 01:08:02] songxf : The rate published on funding history is -0.0763%, but bottom left says -0.0002%
[2016-06-25 01:08:13] songxf : confused
[2016-06-25 01:09:08] micmix : songxf: no, the rate published on funding history is the old one. in 3 hours you will be charged -0.0002% and it will appear on the funding history then
[2016-06-25 01:09:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 669.04
[2016-06-25 01:09:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 669.86
[2016-06-25 01:09:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 46574 @ 670.00 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:09:47] songxf : I see. Anyway to get the funding rate that I am going to be charged through API?
[2016-06-25 01:10:58] micmix : songxf: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD
[2016-06-25 01:11:12] micmix : "fundingRate":-0.00000199999999999994
[2016-06-25 01:11:19] songxf : got it - thx vm
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30474 @ 675.49 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12400 @ 675.12
[2016-06-25 01:12:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 674.90
[2016-06-25 01:13:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 465 @ 678.55
[2016-06-25 01:23:58] rapidtrades : what;s up with chat
[2016-06-25 01:24:24] rapidtrades : on desktop i can't expand it vertically and on mobile doesn't even show up
[2016-06-25 01:25:45] rapidtrades : u know there's movement when mex starts DPing u
[2016-06-25 01:26:06] QuantFocus : yea guys, stop getting rekt
[2016-06-25 01:26:14] QuantFocus : i'm on the right side of this one, so i don't want to pay that shit
[2016-06-25 01:26:33] rapidtrades : only 60k for now
[2016-06-25 01:26:37] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-06-25 01:29:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 38500 @ 681.31 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-25 01:30:05] rapidtrades : its ok only 100k for now....
[2016-06-25 01:35:17] rapidtrades : chat died
[2016-06-25 01:38:00] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/tony-robbins-asks-everyone-storm-across-bed-hot-coals-dozens-get-injured
[2016-06-25 01:38:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 687.75
[2016-06-25 01:38:55] rapidtrades : Pujan Patel from Dallas said thousands of people walked across the coals without a problem, and the people that burned their feet should have done a better job mentally preparing - "It was very easy, but there's always going to be 1 percent of people that are idiots"
[2016-06-25 01:38:57] mbaril : are we gonna see 700 today :)
[2016-06-25 01:39:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50000 @ 688.44 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-25 01:43:24] ayy_lmao : good day today
[2016-06-25 01:43:44] ayy_lmao : seems like only yesterday ppl were calling for 500
[2016-06-25 01:45:59] rapidtrades : that's because it was yesterday
[2016-06-25 01:46:20] ayy_lmao : that is the joke
[2016-06-25 01:46:27] ayy_lmao : ;)
[2016-06-25 01:49:58] rapidtrades : that bounce is not good
[2016-06-25 01:51:44] micmix : okc not participating in the pump, their pump bot is off
[2016-06-25 01:51:57] QuantFocus : ayy_lmao: good one
[2016-06-25 01:55:54] rapidtrades : second try....bounce or break 700?
[2016-06-25 01:57:28] mbaril : lets brake 700 and to the moon :P
[2016-06-25 01:57:43] rapidtrades : im going with a bounce
[2016-06-25 01:59:18] rapidtrades : there is no hype for this rally
[2016-06-25 01:59:35] rapidtrades : noone is here..everyone got killed on that crash
[2016-06-25 02:00:55] Adura_ : That noone guy gets around.
[2016-06-25 02:01:23] rapidtrades : yeah he got around to ur mom last night
[2016-06-25 02:01:36] Adura_ : My Mother is dead.
[2016-06-25 02:06:11] QuantFocus : awkward
[2016-06-25 02:06:37] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: :)
[2016-06-25 02:08:58] QuantFocus : how do you guys make those fancy symbols?
[2016-06-25 02:09:16] QuantFocus : like thumbs up and stuff
[2016-06-25 02:10:13] rapidtrades : unicode?
[2016-06-25 02:10:34] QuantFocus : is that what it is?
[2016-06-25 02:11:33] QuantFocus : '1F64C'
[2016-06-25 02:11:42] QuantFocus : 1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:12:06] QuantFocus : `1F64C`
[2016-06-25 02:12:12] QuantFocus : da fuck
[2016-06-25 02:13:49] rapidtrades : /1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:13:54] rapidtrades : /1F64C/
[2016-06-25 02:14:12] rapidtrades : \1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:14:23] QuantFocus : lol
[2016-06-25 02:14:24] rapidtrades : have no clue how it works
[2016-06-25 02:15:04] rapidtrades : U+1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:15:15] rapidtrades : \U+1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:15:30] QuantFocus : where's support at when you really need them?
[2016-06-25 02:16:28] BitMEX_Wally : :thumbsup:
[2016-06-25 02:16:33] BitMEX_Wally : `:thumbs:`
[2016-06-25 02:16:37] QuantFocus : now you're just taunting me
[2016-06-25 02:16:44] QuantFocus : :thumbs:
[2016-06-25 02:16:44] BitMEX_Wally : `:thumbsup:`
[2016-06-25 02:16:55] rapidtrades : :1F64C
[2016-06-25 02:16:57] BitMEX_Wally : Hah try `: thumbsup : ` without the spaces
[2016-06-25 02:16:59] rapidtrades : :1F64C:
[2016-06-25 02:17:07] QuantFocus : :thumbsup:
[2016-06-25 02:17:10] QuantFocus : nice!
[2016-06-25 02:17:10] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-06-25 02:17:18] BitMEX_Wally : :poop:
[2016-06-25 02:17:20] rapidtrades : :thumbs:
[2016-06-25 02:17:29] BitMEX_Wally : thumbsup, damn autocorrect
[2016-06-25 02:17:43] BitMEX_Wally : :bitmex:
[2016-06-25 02:17:51] QuantFocus : :bitmex:
[2016-06-25 02:17:54] rapidtrades : :thumbsdown:
[2016-06-25 02:17:57] QuantFocus : hahah
[2016-06-25 02:18:07] rapidtrades : :jew:
[2016-06-25 02:18:13] QuantFocus : :gentlycaress:
[2016-06-25 02:18:15] rapidtrades : :arrow:
[2016-06-25 02:18:24] rapidtrades : :U:
[2016-06-25 02:18:30] QuantFocus : ::D:
[2016-06-25 02:18:39] QuantFocus : :lol:
[2016-06-25 02:18:45] QuantFocus : is there a list of these?
[2016-06-25 02:18:47] rapidtrades : :no:
[2016-06-25 02:19:04] BitMEX_Wally : 
[2016-06-25 02:19:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hey any reason why chat doesn't show up on mobile anymroe
[2016-06-25 02:21:04] BitMEX_Wally : http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com
[2016-06-25 02:21:26] BitMEX_Wally : I'm on mobile
[2016-06-25 02:21:37] BitMEX_Wally : it's down the bottom in a Trollbox widget
[2016-06-25 02:22:55] ayy_lmao : fucking bearstamp ruining the fun
[2016-06-25 02:23:18] ayy_lmao : bearstamp is an old man who cant get it up
[2016-06-25 02:23:57] QuantFocus : :no_crossing:
[2016-06-25 02:23:58] QuantFocus : oops
[2016-06-25 02:23:59] nip : the question is will finex get bored waiting and give up
[2016-06-25 02:24:04] QuantFocus : :no_pedestrian:
[2016-06-25 02:24:16] QuantFocus : :no_pedestrians:
[2016-06-25 02:24:20] BitMEX_Wally : :no_pedestrians:
[2016-06-25 02:24:45] BitMEX_Wally : Bitstamp does not have leverage so that's why the price is flat
[2016-06-25 02:30:32] mbaril : 700 here we come!
[2016-06-25 02:31:01] QuantFocus : 711 local high
[2016-06-25 02:31:15] mbaril : Pretty sure we will brake it
[2016-06-25 02:32:05] QuantFocus : oh boy, can't wait to receive my .0002%
[2016-06-25 02:37:00] aethlios : you must be an athlete to keep trading btc around the clock.
[2016-06-25 02:39:10] QuantFocus : :shit:
[2016-06-25 02:42:14] subjective : How long is the profit withheld?
[2016-06-25 02:42:52] BitMEX_Arthur : subjective: until 12gmt
[2016-06-25 03:15:56] Rado : Sup girls
[2016-06-25 03:32:32] ten : :moneybag:
[2016-06-25 03:42:39] Mm bot : Rado: sup
[2016-06-25 03:42:57] Mm bot : where can i see exchange volumn over time?
[2016-06-25 03:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Stats/Stats_history
[2016-06-25 03:45:42] Zen Trader : What effect does margin trading have on the price vs spot trading are we sort of playing a zero sum game. I mean if I buy a bitcoin on spot markets does that work towards advancing my position pushing the price up while margin trading is working against my position by promising to close it within a certain timeframe
[2016-06-25 03:46:28] Zen Trader : Would we all actually be better off adopting a different strategy slightly longer timeframe and just buy to hold
[2016-06-25 03:50:10] sq : buy to hold works XD btc is going up!
[2016-06-25 03:52:01] Mm bot : Loving the HTTP response headers "x-powered-by: Profit".. Respect!
[2016-06-25 03:54:13] Mm bot : BitMEX_Wally: if I transfer from another bitmex account would that take a whole day as well?
[2016-06-25 04:00:37] BitMEX_Wally : Mm bot: Yes, but if you have a need for sub accounts we can support instant transfer between them
[2016-06-25 04:06:21] subjective : Cool, how do I enable the sub account?
[2016-06-25 04:10:33] BitMEX_Wally : Send an email to support with your needs/use case and we'll see if this is the right solution
[2016-06-25 04:15:12] jung1 : damn bitcoin
[2016-06-25 04:15:25] jung1 : morning guys
[2016-06-25 04:19:29] Mm bot : who gets the funding? holders of long?
[2016-06-25 04:21:07] QuantFocus : shorts
[2016-06-25 04:21:34] Mm bot : longs pays shorts?
[2016-06-25 04:23:06] sq : BitMEX_Wally: can i apply for a sub account? would be great to separate my strategies
[2016-06-25 04:23:10] sq : much appreciated
[2016-06-25 04:23:54] QuantFocus : Mm bot: when the funding rate is positive. shorts pay longs if it's negative
[2016-06-25 04:24:52] Mm bot : QuantFocus: ah,
[2016-06-25 04:25:59] jung1 : sq: just open new one with your reffereal
[2016-06-25 04:26:01] jung1 : or mine
[2016-06-25 04:26:17] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W
[2016-06-25 04:26:22] jung1 : there you go buddy
[2016-06-25 04:26:26] sq : yeah but i would like the instant transfer between accts
[2016-06-25 04:26:34] jung1 : cant happen
[2016-06-25 04:29:01] Mm bot : can i enter a referrer code after signup?
[2016-06-25 04:32:19] jung1 : no
[2016-06-25 04:32:27] jung1 : you have to sign up from this link
[2016-06-25 04:32:28] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W
[2016-06-25 04:32:31] jung1 : only way
[2016-06-25 04:33:04] QuantFocus : :thumbsup:
[2016-06-25 04:42:42] BitMEX_Wally : My apologies, I've just looked into the sub-accounts and they are only available as part of a broker integration, for example they are used by Quoine
[2016-06-25 04:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : There is no login or frontend support
[2016-06-25 04:49:53] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: ouch that would've be a great feature for traders to try different strategy and bots
[2016-06-25 04:53:03] subjective : Are you guys based in HK or EU?
[2016-06-25 04:53:50] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: Most of us are in Hong Kong
[2016-06-25 04:54:01] subjective : servers are in eu right?
[2016-06-25 04:54:14] subjective : I am trying to see which region to spin up the bots
[2016-06-25 05:06:04] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: about halving: whiych option do you support?
[2016-06-25 05:06:09] jung1 : as bitmex of course
[2016-06-25 05:10:34] subjective : ETH is so quite, miners are installing new geth nodes now
[2016-06-25 05:17:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 682.26 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-25 05:18:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Do you know what happened to the little marks under the limit order buttons that would show how much your order would be filled by the book?
[2016-06-25 05:28:06] jung1 : subjective: now could be good time to buy some eth
[2016-06-25 05:28:09] jung1 : all that dao problems
[2016-06-25 05:28:33] jung1 : but still eth stay strong
[2016-06-25 05:28:50] jung1 : even dont give a f about btc proce
[2016-06-25 05:29:03] jung1 : which is quite awesome
[2016-06-25 05:32:11] jung1 : http://static.pb.pl/filtered/7c/168828,151908,f_663_663.jpg ahh fuck. good that I have altcoins
[2016-06-25 06:07:54] jung1 : for all of you who use bots http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML+COMPARL+PE-582.443+01+DOC+PDF+V0%2F%2FEN&language=EN
[2016-06-25 06:19:19] 1QaZxSw2 : im getting roughly caressed here
[2016-06-25 06:19:44] sq : lol
[2016-06-25 06:20:00] QuantFocus : 1QaZxSw2: hahah
[2016-06-25 06:33:06] ayy_lmao : chopped up?
[2016-06-25 06:50:44] Rune : down?
[2016-06-25 07:01:57] jung1 : Rune: http://www.reactiongifs.com/classified-2/
[2016-06-25 07:55:23] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: here is a suggestion, could you add an option to preferences for plus/minus buttons to be set by our own custom values?
[2016-06-25 07:56:09] yerb : for example +/- .01 is useless to me, i would like my custom value to be there
[2016-06-25 07:56:52] yerb : and maybe have 6 buttons option
[2016-06-25 07:58:15] jung1 : +1
[2016-06-25 07:58:53] jung1 : or option that you can add % of current quantity
[2016-06-25 07:59:30] yerb : yeah, ability to set each button to % or point value
[2016-06-25 08:08:55] Skitrx : looks like we'll break 700 soon
[2016-06-25 08:09:53] jung1 : or 600
[2016-06-25 08:32:27] asdfman : you short again @jung1 ?
[2016-06-25 08:33:34] jung1 : I shorted that green dildo at 692
[2016-06-25 08:34:05] jung1 : but trades these days are quite hard to predict
[2016-06-25 08:38:07] asdfman : agree
[2016-06-25 08:38:37] asdfman : what timeframe you mean?
[2016-06-25 08:38:43] asdfman : the green one
[2016-06-25 08:39:24] asdfman : aah here
[2016-06-25 08:39:27] asdfman : sheet
[2016-06-25 08:39:29] asdfman : sorry man
[2016-06-25 08:40:06] asdfman : if you were short when the green dildo, ehm, came
[2016-06-25 08:42:31] jung1 : that one from $660 to 694
[2016-06-25 08:57:00] smagin07 : how is the market price calculated?
[2016-06-25 08:58:37] jung1 : by kaiko price index
[2016-06-25 08:58:39] jung1 : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-25 09:40:14] justinlooking : 4500
[2016-06-25 09:44:07] wotan : lets get that 4500 as a solid ground go btc
[2016-06-25 09:54:47] jung1 : 4000 better
[2016-06-25 09:56:58] wotan : jung1 i expect it to go more likely up at this stage then down but lets see
[2016-06-25 09:57:49] wotan : bitcoin halfing 14 days, brexit, world stock crash lets see how the new week will be
[2016-06-25 10:28:02] jung1 : imo real pump will be after halving
[2016-06-25 10:28:25] jung1 : when investors will see if everything is ok
[2016-06-25 10:29:37] mjmj83 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ouuab/trace_mayer_says_bitcoin_halving_to_bring_3000/
[2016-06-25 10:29:51] mjmj83 : Trace Mayer expect it to go to $2000-$3000 in 3 months of halving.. :)
[2016-06-25 10:30:25] jung1 : possible
[2016-06-25 10:30:39] mjmj83 : halving before also did something
[2016-06-25 10:30:55] mjmj83 : he explains it in the video from 20 minutes
[2016-06-25 10:31:26] mjmj83 : He also refers to the confiscation of 100.000 btc in SilkRoard.. that also increased the price..
[2016-06-25 10:31:38] mjmj83 : less btc in market, price goes up
[2016-06-25 10:33:19] tscha : justinlooking: hey, you still long?
[2016-06-25 10:36:18] tscha : mjmj83: trace mayer, lol.. biggest moron in the whole bitcoin community.. and that means a lot
[2016-06-25 10:36:56] jung1 : mjmj83: but now there are a lot of new users and whole ecosystem is much bigger
[2016-06-25 10:37:23] mjmj83 : jung1: true
[2016-06-25 10:37:35] jung1 : + all margin trading
[2016-06-25 10:37:39] mjmj83 : tscha: trace a moron? tell me
[2016-06-25 10:37:46] jung1 : plus all margin
[2016-06-25 10:37:59] jung1 : its could be not so easy to pump it high
[2016-06-25 10:38:27] mjmj83 : If you listened to Trace Mayer when bitcoin was $0.25 you've made some money....
[2016-06-25 10:38:45] tscha : he is no clue about economics and is a manipulate shill... Craig Wright #2
[2016-06-25 10:39:04] tscha : https://www.tracemayer.net/
[2016-06-25 10:39:29] mjmj83 : tscha: Yes I know you think he's a moron, but explain...
[2016-06-25 10:41:33] tscha : mjmj83: did you watch his interviews?
[2016-06-25 10:41:40] mjmj83 : tscha: Yes.
[2016-06-25 11:38:04] Skitrx : $700 + brexit + stock market down could trigger a decent breakout
[2016-06-25 11:43:22] jung1 : which way?
[2016-06-25 11:51:00] Skitrx : up
[2016-06-25 11:53:51] RoftheN : Don't forget the upcoming halving
[2016-06-25 11:53:58] RoftheN : only 2 weeks
[2016-06-25 11:59:53] Skitrx : yeah, so demand is there atleast
[2016-06-25 12:00:28] rapidtrades : the more i think about it the more im of the belief that almost all brexit crashes will retrace
[2016-06-25 12:01:25] rapidtrades : if u look at bank forecastss, uk growth will be hurt by 1%....does that really justify a 15% crash in the Pound?
[2016-06-25 12:01:44] Skitrx : that 1% could put is in a depression
[2016-06-25 12:02:29] Avalanche : guys, if my fee paid is in minus ( - ) I have received the moeney correct ?
[2016-06-25 12:02:46] rapidtrades : how does 1% cut in GDP put u in a depression u muppet
[2016-06-25 12:06:31] BitMEX_Wally : Avalanche: correct
[2016-06-25 12:06:34] Skitrx : err cause it was only at 0.5
[2016-06-25 12:06:36] Skitrx : u muppet
[2016-06-25 12:08:10] rapidtrades : do u even know what a depression is ya muppet
[2016-06-25 12:08:29] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: wally can we do smth about the lag? had to restart browser again
[2016-06-25 12:08:45] rapidtrades : maybe move the chart to its own page? bitmex/chart or whatever
[2016-06-25 12:08:59] Skitrx : a long term downturn in economic activity, i'm failing to see your arguement
[2016-06-25 12:09:05] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: What kind of lag? Updating the chart when switching instruments?
[2016-06-25 12:09:30] BitMEX_Wally : or that connection interrupted message when the WebSocket drops?
[2016-06-25 12:09:43] rapidtrades : the usual if u keep it on it will clog up more and more memory....we had this problem since day one butt gotten worse last 2 weeks
[2016-06-25 12:10:01] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, what browser version?
[2016-06-25 12:10:17] rapidtrades : or offer us a basic version without the chart
[2016-06-25 12:10:19] rapidtrades : ff
[2016-06-25 12:10:45] elmorte : Selling 1% below mark to avoid 0.1% funding....thank you kind stranger
[2016-06-25 12:11:17] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I've found that happens all the time
[2016-06-25 12:11:43] BitMEX_Wally : And market makers put their bids up after fundin.
[2016-06-25 12:11:57] elmorte : You're right, it's not new, just first time I took advantage of it
[2016-06-25 12:12:09] elmorte : :)
[2016-06-25 12:13:31] rapidtrades : dam i missed it
[2016-06-25 12:13:54] rapidtrades : too busy yapping my mouth as usual
[2016-06-25 12:14:38] rapidtrades : wait a min...it wasn't at 1% discount before the rebalance @elmorte
[2016-06-25 12:14:46] icocountdown : any admins here
[2016-06-25 12:14:59] elmorte : 15min candles...check the second last one
[2016-06-25 12:15:00] rapidtrades : we rallied after it and it was all over not just here
[2016-06-25 12:15:06] BitMEX_Wally : icocountdown: Hello
[2016-06-25 12:15:12] elmorte : as it plummets to 671
[2016-06-25 12:15:20] rapidtrades : elmorte: right but there was no 'discount'
[2016-06-25 12:15:29] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally
[2016-06-25 12:15:40] elmorte : Then how come the mark was at 678?
[2016-06-25 12:15:45] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: are you interested on promoting bitmex, i really like the site
[2016-06-25 12:15:56] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: i run http://icocountdown.com
[2016-06-25 12:16:07] rapidtrades : elmorte: my point is we rallied everywhere after 12
[2016-06-25 12:16:09] BitMEX_Wally : icocountdown: absolutely. We have an affiliate programme
[2016-06-25 12:16:26] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2016-06-25 12:16:37] icocountdown : BitMEX_Wally: what is the comission like
[2016-06-25 12:16:47] elmorte : my point 0.09 XBT....
[2016-06-25 12:16:51] elmorte : You can win, I don't care
[2016-06-25 12:17:24] rapidtrades : dude, looking at okc chart we opened the hour at 673
[2016-06-25 12:17:32] rapidtrades : we're now at 679
[2016-06-25 12:17:45] rapidtrades : so yeah ofc i win....there was a discount only in retrospect
[2016-06-25 12:17:53] elmorte : 671.00 4511 19:47:10
[2016-06-25 12:18:13] rapidtrades : ok fine...there was a $2 discount...that's 0.3% not 1% like u said
[2016-06-25 12:18:20] rapidtrades : closer to my zero then ur 1%
[2016-06-25 12:18:42] elmorte : 671/677?
[2016-06-25 12:19:21] rapidtrades : lowest low at okc was 673 then
[2016-06-25 12:19:26] rapidtrades : lemme check finex
[2016-06-25 12:19:47] elmorte : Check all of them then come back to bitmex :p
[2016-06-25 12:20:16] subjective : why did cash-rebalance withdraw 0.23 from my account the position is positive.
[2016-06-25 12:21:53] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: when you say positive, you mean unrealised PNL?
[2016-06-25 12:22:09] rapidtrades : ok a low of $678 finex
[2016-06-25 12:22:13] rapidtrades : lemme check stamp
[2016-06-25 12:22:27] elmorte : sure, I'll be here
[2016-06-25 12:22:37] subjective : yep, realised PL is loss from trades weeks ago
[2016-06-25 12:22:57] rapidtrades : stamp 674....so let's to the average...
[2016-06-25 12:23:13] subjective : does it mean i'd pay extra because of loss it has many weeks ago
[2016-06-25 12:23:14] BitMEX_Wally : The realised PNL shown is cumulative
[2016-06-25 12:23:46] subjective : so if I move my funds into a new account, i won't get cash rebalance to affect my current BTC amount..
[2016-06-25 12:23:49] BitMEX_Wally : but the PNL including funding in the last 24 hours was -0.23
[2016-06-25 12:24:02] BitMEX_Wally : moving funds makes no difference
[2016-06-25 12:24:12] BitMEX_Wally : PNL is PNL
[2016-06-25 12:24:23] subjective : ok
[2016-06-25 12:25:04] rapidtrades : index was 675.16
[2016-06-25 12:25:42] rapidtrades : so u got a $4 discount at best....which is 0.59%
[2016-06-25 12:26:29] rapidtrades : how much did u pay in funding
[2016-06-25 12:26:52] elmorte : So are you saying the chart here is wrong?
[2016-06-25 12:27:47] elmorte : Looks pretty fn accurate to me...
[2016-06-25 12:27:49] rapidtrades : im saying u didn't get a large discount like u think....the general market rallied after 12
[2016-06-25 12:28:25] elmorte : You can look at 1 min candles if you want...
[2016-06-25 12:28:54] rapidtrades : elmorte: rapidtrades: index was 675.16 .....lower low here was 671
[2016-06-25 12:29:01] rapidtrades : do the math
[2016-06-25 12:29:15] rapidtrades : around 0.5% after funding
[2016-06-25 12:29:28] elmorte : nope, 677+/- 0.03
[2016-06-25 12:29:41] rapidtrades : my brain hurts
[2016-06-25 12:29:51] elmorte : maybe even 677.11
[2016-06-25 12:29:57] elmorte : That's your fault...
[2016-06-25 12:30:05] elmorte : What timestamp are you looking at?
[2016-06-25 12:30:29] rapidtrades : dude....if u take the lowest low during that 11:45 candle...index was at 675...i just used the average from kaiko
[2016-06-25 12:30:41] rapidtrades : 50% finex, 28% okc and 22% stamp
[2016-06-25 12:30:58] rapidtrades : do it urself...take the lowest low at 11:45 gmt
[2016-06-25 12:31:00] elmorte : The index is right here on the chart
[2016-06-25 12:31:26] elmorte : 1145gmt was even higher, over 678
[2016-06-25 12:31:36] elmorte : 1147 was down a bit
[2016-06-25 12:31:37] rapidtrades : there is no index on my chart
[2016-06-25 12:32:24] rapidtrades : elmorte: yes 11:47 because that's when 671 printed here
[2016-06-25 12:32:38] elmorte : right click, reset chart
[2016-06-25 12:32:57] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-06-25 12:33:14] elmorte : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2016-06-25 12:33:18] rapidtrades : the index was never on the chat
[2016-06-25 12:33:21] elmorte : If you have a problem visualising shit...
[2016-06-25 12:33:28] elmorte : Booyakasha!
[2016-06-25 12:33:37] elmorte : Case closed
[2016-06-25 12:33:58] rapidtrades : is not case closed dummy cos we spike down at 11:47
[2016-06-25 12:34:00] RSFinance : What is the "Predicted Funding Rate"? Is it in the API anywhere?
[2016-06-25 12:34:09] rapidtrades : that's a 1min average
[2016-06-25 12:34:14] rapidtrades : doesn't consider the lows
[2016-06-25 12:34:26] rapidtrades : 671 if u got in there was a LOW during that candle
[2016-06-25 12:35:04] elmorte : obiviously, otherwise it wouldn't be on the chart
[2016-06-25 12:36:03] BitMEX_Wally : RSFinance: look at the indicativeFundingRate on the instrument table
[2016-06-25 12:36:34] BitMEX_Wally : it's just a cumulative TWAP of the samples since last rebalance
[2016-06-25 12:36:58] BitMEX_Wally : then adjusted by all the min/max rules
[2016-06-25 12:38:25] Rado : gm punks
[2016-06-25 12:38:52] rapidtrades : elmorte: sry about calling u dummy...ur 1% was closer then my 0%
[2016-06-25 12:39:13] Rado : Sep mark price went up even though the spot price did not change much
[2016-06-25 12:39:35] Rado : rapidtrades: what's going on man?
[2016-06-25 12:39:41] RSFinance : ok thanks
[2016-06-25 12:39:52] elmorte : ooh, backhanded apology...accepted
[2016-06-25 12:40:08] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: XBTU16 is currently set at a fixed 90% annualised basis
[2016-06-25 12:40:30] Rado : why is that BitMEX_Wally?
[2016-06-25 12:40:57] BitMEX_Wally : It's not liquid enough to enable automatic adjustment of the basis
[2016-06-25 12:41:07] BitMEX_Wally : people were playing tennis with the orderbook
[2016-06-25 12:41:08] Rado : got it
[2016-06-25 12:50:57] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: where is the 'indicative settle price' in that fair basis calculation?
[2016-06-25 12:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: on the instrument table
[2016-06-25 12:55:21] BitMEX_Wally : it's just the last price of the underlying index
[2016-06-25 13:02:37] NukeLaloosh : :sparkling_heart:
[2016-06-25 13:14:37] Rado : back to boring
[2016-06-25 13:16:02] tscha : think I'm going to close my long. no clue what is going to happen.
[2016-06-25 13:16:33] elmorte : It's an odd price level
[2016-06-25 13:19:35] ayy_lmao : liq price: 100000000.00 lmao
[2016-06-25 13:20:59] justinlooking : u need some bids to sell into tscha :P
[2016-06-25 13:21:36] elmorte : I wonder who came up with the arbitrary number and why :) would be just as easy to turn 8 sideways
[2016-06-25 13:24:47] ayy_lmao : i think we are very close to topping out 4 btc,
[2016-06-25 13:24:52] ayy_lmao : need more consolidation
[2016-06-25 13:26:32] justinlooking : _lmao: that does not suit me, please change ur opinion lol
[2016-06-25 13:26:48] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-25 13:27:24] tscha : justinlooking: are u still long?
[2016-06-25 13:27:54] ayy_lmao : i mean 720 is possible, but bitcoin will have to move up very soon for that
[2016-06-25 13:28:04] justinlooking : yes, and signfiicantly for me
[2016-06-25 13:28:44] ayy_lmao : you in profit?
[2016-06-25 13:29:44] tscha : justinlooking: me too
[2016-06-25 13:29:51] tscha : justinlooking: let's get out there together mate :)
[2016-06-25 13:29:58] justinlooking : lol r u mad!
[2016-06-25 13:30:27] justinlooking : ayy_lmao: most of them are, waiting for coinbase to up my weekly buy limit...
[2016-06-25 13:30:49] ayy_lmao : oh are u spot long?
[2016-06-25 13:30:59] Rado : justinlooking why Coinbase?
[2016-06-25 13:31:09] Rado : there are so many better exchanges
[2016-06-25 13:31:16] justinlooking : ofc offline hodl
[2016-06-25 13:31:53] ayy_lmao : oh well, then your safe
[2016-06-25 13:31:56] Rado : Is this a bot buying 1 contract a t a time?
[2016-06-25 13:32:06] tscha : If silly me had prepared properly for brexit night, I would have made a kraken account to buy BTCEUR.. bought while first pro-brexit results kept coming, but had only BTCUSD accounts
[2016-06-25 13:32:15] ayy_lmao : you're*
[2016-06-25 13:34:08] justinlooking : I still cannot believe leave won
[2016-06-25 13:34:35] ayy_lmao : if this bounce goes any higher this move will be larger than all the up legs from $400-780 pump
[2016-06-25 13:34:59] ayy_lmao : on 4-6hr
[2016-06-25 13:37:28] wurstgelee : counting on it
[2016-06-25 13:37:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-25 13:38:03] justinlooking : it's a red flag when everyone is same way round!
[2016-06-25 13:38:48] justinlooking : go gooalllll
[2016-06-25 13:38:51] wurstgelee : yeah. but its long if not sure for me atm
[2016-06-25 13:38:53] tscha : justinlooking: I'll keep my long
[2016-06-25 13:38:55] wurstgelee : works great
[2016-06-25 13:38:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-25 13:39:12] tscha : justinlooking: because of you <3 #rationaldecisionmaking
[2016-06-25 13:39:16] wurstgelee : relatively tight stop limit
[2016-06-25 13:39:27] luckynuke : up up and away
[2016-06-25 13:39:36] justinlooking : lol tscha, don't forget #SaturdayThings, could start getting interesting as aftrenoon/evening progresses
[2016-06-25 13:39:36] wurstgelee : stop hits 2 or 3 times usually, then we got up in 4th try
[2016-06-25 13:39:42] wurstgelee : good net profit
[2016-06-25 13:39:44] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-06-25 13:40:21] Rado : nice wurstgelee
[2016-06-25 13:40:25] Rado : that's the way to play it
[2016-06-25 13:42:45] wurstgelee : see? :)
[2016-06-25 13:45:12] wurstgelee : bad example it seems oO
[2016-06-25 13:45:15] luckynuke : wurstgelee: when do you think we will see the breakout ?
[2016-06-25 13:45:28] wurstgelee : i have no clue
[2016-06-25 13:45:30] wurstgelee : sometimes i guess
[2016-06-25 13:45:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-25 13:46:11] wurstgelee : if charts when the whales have mercy basically
[2016-06-25 13:46:18] wurstgelee : *-if charts
[2016-06-25 13:46:59] wurstgelee : could have replaced when with if tho
[2016-06-25 13:48:29] rapidtrades : up or down fellas?
[2016-06-25 13:48:35] justinlooking : ur mum
[2016-06-25 13:48:53] rapidtrades : NO U
[2016-06-25 13:48:56] justinlooking : haha
[2016-06-25 13:51:56] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: did u know i picture u as taz sometimes?
[2016-06-25 13:51:59] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-06-25 13:54:26] Rado : I just went long some
[2016-06-25 13:54:27] Rado : so up
[2016-06-25 13:54:29] Rado : lol
[2016-06-25 13:54:57] tscha : rapidtrades: are you long or short?
[2016-06-25 14:02:54] rapidtrades : i still have 30% of my original long
[2016-06-25 14:07:14] rapidtrades : i think a lot of the post-brexit move in CNY related
[2016-06-25 14:07:32] rapidtrades : usd/cnh went up 1.5% on Friday....biggest move since Janaury i think
[2016-06-25 14:08:10] Rado : CNY needs to devalue even more
[2016-06-25 14:08:48] rapidtrades : agree...this was a gift to the PBOC...i can't see them intervening down
[2016-06-25 14:09:36] rapidtrades : on related note...i had a long usd/cnh that got taken out at 6.58 right before brexit
[2016-06-25 14:09:57] rapidtrades : i planned to set a slippage limit order but platform took it as traling stop
[2016-06-25 14:10:06] rapidtrades : dunno if bug or just too tired
[2016-06-25 14:11:26] rapidtrades : i'll try to recreate the error on monday
[2016-06-25 14:14:11] BitMEX_Sam : Which platform?
[2016-06-25 14:14:38] rapidtrades : specific broker platform...coded in java i think
[2016-06-25 14:27:56] raykurzweil : What are your thoughts on BTC the next 48h?
[2016-06-25 14:28:19] raykurzweil : Have a long open 10x base 662 that I can't keep an eye on.
[2016-06-25 14:32:08] Rado : raykurzweil: that's why there are stops
[2016-06-25 14:32:44] Rado : I am telling you this is the #1 mistake inexperience traders make
[2016-06-25 14:33:04] Rado : when they get stopped out they think this is bad because they missed on profit
[2016-06-25 14:33:24] Rado : then they get killed when the asset doesn't go their way
[2016-06-25 14:33:33] RoftheN : How do I avoid that mistake?
[2016-06-25 14:33:50] Rado : use stop orders always
[2016-06-25 14:33:54] Rado : on every trade
[2016-06-25 14:33:57] Rado : no exceptions
[2016-06-25 14:34:17] Rado : of course you need to also enter at the right time and have position management
[2016-06-25 14:34:32] Rado : don't just buy or sell for the sake of trading
[2016-06-25 14:36:38] mbaril : Rado: I never use stop. Stop limit are trigger when you dont want to
[2016-06-25 14:36:55] mbaril : So far I did well but I never open a positions and leave.
[2016-06-25 14:37:01] mbaril : Im always there if I have a position
[2016-06-25 14:37:11] Rado : if you are scalping that might be fine
[2016-06-25 14:37:25] Rado : but it can get away from you if it moves fast
[2016-06-25 14:37:35] Rado : I am telling you I have been trading for 20 years now
[2016-06-25 14:38:16] Rado : you can't beat experience with any theories
[2016-06-25 14:38:56] Rado : if your stops are getting hit it's either you are putting them to close to your entry price or your entry was not good
[2016-06-25 14:39:13] Rado : in the long run you make a lot more than loose from stops
[2016-06-25 14:39:55] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: are you working fulltime on mex?
[2016-06-25 14:39:55] Rado : specially on leveraged markets like here
[2016-06-25 14:44:09] Rado : https://whaleclub.co/i/blL2q8
[2016-06-25 14:45:41] Rado : https://twitter.com/The_BitCoiner/status/746709925536141313/photo/1
[2016-06-25 14:58:34] rapidtrades : dam...i should start trading gold again
[2016-06-25 15:00:26] rapidtrades : Rado: 20 years? trading what
[2016-06-25 15:03:30] Rado : stocks and options
[2016-06-25 15:04:30] rapidtrades : options on what
[2016-06-25 15:05:26] Rado : stock options
[2016-06-25 15:06:23] Rado : I only trade crypto now
[2016-06-25 15:07:24] rapidtrades : y
[2016-06-25 15:09:22] Rado : I don't want to hold any fiat denominated assets
[2016-06-25 15:09:53] Rado : also have some physical gold and silver
[2016-06-25 15:10:30] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-25 15:13:28] rapidtrades : cmon shitter rally so i can sell yo ass again
[2016-06-25 15:13:37] rapidtrades : shether*
[2016-06-25 15:17:59] NukeLaloosh : how can i have a raw realized pnl since last rebalance if i haven't traded?
[2016-06-25 15:19:51] rapidtrades : NukeLaloosh: it shows the life of the contract
[2016-06-25 15:23:01] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Yes, have been for about 2 years
[2016-06-25 15:25:48] raykurzweil : Rado: Thanks a lot for your insight. I will place stops accordingly. I never used to trade with stops, until that one time when I lost 8000ETH on a margin trade that went beyond horrible. Never again.
[2016-06-25 15:26:16] raykurzweil : I still punch myself for that one from time to time.
[2016-06-25 15:39:38] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: nah, i'm talking about on the hover-over. it shows a small negative amount and I haven't closed a single contract
[2016-06-25 15:43:39] elmorte : raykurzweil: 8000 ETH? On margin? That couldn't have been long ago
[2016-06-25 15:46:36] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: you have any open positions?
[2016-06-25 15:50:28] NukeLaloosh : yes
[2016-06-25 15:52:50] NukeLaloosh : ah i found it, it's from funding. but that doesn't really explain why there is a small value in the sept
[2016-06-25 15:56:01] men : when the eth are splitted from the dao? i think there will be a huge dump
[2016-06-25 15:56:49] RoftheN : ETH split from DAO will take over a month, meanwhile they will be stuck
[2016-06-25 15:57:22] men : RoftheN: :D ok thanks
[2016-06-25 15:58:09] men : dwarfpool,nanopool and miningpoolhub have switched to geth 1.4.8
[2016-06-25 15:59:04] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: maybe a rebalance at mark?
[2016-06-25 16:04:35] rapidtrades : guys im bored
[2016-06-25 16:05:16] justinlooking : wal v nir
[2016-06-25 16:07:29] rapidtrades : finex jumpin
[2016-06-25 16:07:59] rapidtrades : longs pay right?
[2016-06-25 16:10:19] NukeLaloosh : elmorte: i don't see how that can be. "This is your raw realised PNL since the last rebalance. When not hovering, we show total PNL"
[2016-06-25 16:11:13] rapidtrades : take it easy nuke
[2016-06-25 16:11:44] NukeLaloosh : we're talking at least $0.40...
[2016-06-25 16:13:32] rapidtrades : finex dumpin
[2016-06-25 16:15:01] justinlooking : ? it's higher than it was 15 mins ago
[2016-06-25 16:15:12] rapidtrades : but loer then 5 mins ago
[2016-06-25 16:16:42] raykurzweil : elmorte: Was during the first rise from the low 0.00s to 0.0178. I naively longed about 16000ETH at the top. Bought into ETH at 40cents and started gambling. I'm a developer and knew very little about trading at the time.
[2016-06-25 16:18:00] elmorte : raykurzweil: could've ordered a nice pizza with it...