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[2016-06-23 12:22:45] BitMEX_Wally : It wasn't a market maker
[2016-06-23 12:22:53] aethlios : rapidtrades: MMs should be recuired to have adequate margin so not to use minimal margin to close positions. It looks to me this is a MM.
[2016-06-23 12:22:54] ayy_lmao : pleb confirmed
[2016-06-23 12:22:54] JohnBoeg : (Just so you know, this cost me way more, but I knew it was possible)
[2016-06-23 12:22:59] rapidtrades : if u can't restrain ur mm from DPE-ing us, maybe limit per account
[2016-06-23 12:23:03] BitMEX_Wally : We are going to add position limits to reduce this problem
[2016-06-23 12:23:13] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-06-23 12:23:28] JohnBoeg : @BitMEX_Wally : Won't people just open more accounts?
[2016-06-23 12:23:31] BitMEX_Wally : And if you want a higher limit then we reduce your leverage and increase your maintenance margin
[2016-06-23 12:23:43] BitMEX_Wally : JohnBoeg: That's fine, because then the position will be split up with different liquidation prices
[2016-06-23 12:24:02] JohnBoeg : BitMEX_Wally: Not necessarily
[2016-06-23 12:25:16] rapidtrades : if the limit is low, it will become tedious to manage 5-10 accounts
[2016-06-23 12:25:20] JohnBoeg : BitMEX_Wally: another option to consider is incremental liquidations
[2016-06-23 12:25:33] rapidtrades : ofc i don't run bots....that could be trivial for them to do wih API
[2016-06-23 12:25:35] JohnBoeg : rapidtrades: Yeah, probably gamblers anyway
[2016-06-23 12:26:03] Avalanche : So I better move to some other exchange, because I got screwed for 5btc, because I made a good call.
[2016-06-23 12:26:22] JohnBoeg : Not screwed, other exchanges have similar systems
[2016-06-23 12:26:31] john : if you dont need 50x leverage....sure better do on other exchange
[2016-06-23 12:26:35] rapidtrades : not spot exchanges no
[2016-06-23 12:26:56] BitMEX_Wally : If you are short you also earn funding
[2016-06-23 12:27:01] BitMEX_Wally : Funding: 0.5192% in 8 hours
[2016-06-23 12:27:07] rapidtrades : gee thanks
[2016-06-23 12:27:55] ayy_lmao : Avalanche: okcoin
[2016-06-23 12:28:14] rapidtrades : i would advise against okc, market seems very manipulated
[2016-06-23 12:28:37] john : so what is the problem with that?
[2016-06-23 12:29:08] john : as long as their index is honest and there are no clawbacks...
[2016-06-23 12:29:30] rapidtrades : there are no clawbacks because they manipulate the market
[2016-06-23 12:29:34] ayy_lmao : they dont have large clawbacks
[2016-06-23 12:29:47] rapidtrades : they seem to run bots to clear large liquidation orders
[2016-06-23 12:29:48] ayy_lmao : they liquidate you on market price last i remember
[2016-06-23 12:29:58] ayy_lmao : no such thing as a mark price there
[2016-06-23 12:29:59] rapidtrades : nope they also add small buffer
[2016-06-23 12:30:21] ayy_lmao : i didnt mean market order
[2016-06-23 12:30:28] rapidtrades : mark price can work in ur favor if ur long for example
[2016-06-23 12:30:51] john : mark price = manipulation
[2016-06-23 12:30:58] Avalanche : I see nothing going into my favor
[2016-06-23 12:30:59] mbaril : Avalanche: the DPE was around 28% its impossible you get 5 btc out of 10. Check your calculation
[2016-06-23 12:31:13] rapidtrades : support says it was 22%
[2016-06-23 12:31:18] Avalanche : mbaril: I'm just doing that
[2016-06-23 12:31:26] rapidtrades : still very high but not 50%
[2016-06-23 12:31:36] ayy_lmao : and u arent in any positions right?
[2016-06-23 12:31:45] john : lets pray for a big uptick....then all fine again
[2016-06-23 12:32:05] ayy_lmao : not trading until that liq is gone
[2016-06-23 12:32:19] gaoMex : 1215684?
[2016-06-23 12:32:20] rapidtrades : finex stopped going up when that liq showed up
[2016-06-23 12:32:27] gaoMex : Over 1 million?!
[2016-06-23 12:32:35] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-23 12:33:00] Avalanche : export to CSV is not working so it takes time
[2016-06-23 12:33:22] ayy_lmao : u shouldt have to do that to check the rebalance
[2016-06-23 12:33:33] rapidtrades : it should be a line item on ur trade hsotry
[2016-06-23 12:33:36] ayy_lmao : it should be on the very top
[2016-06-23 12:33:47] ayy_lmao : on 6-23
[2016-06-23 12:34:31] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: I'm looking at trade history
[2016-06-23 12:34:46] ayy_lmao : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-06-23 12:34:51] ayy_lmao : there right?
[2016-06-23 12:35:30] ayy_lmao : check the 6-23 row, it should have a fee column
[2016-06-23 12:35:37] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: yeah there is 3.69+ and Fee of 1.03
[2016-06-23 12:35:37] ayy_lmao : with the fee for rebalance
[2016-06-23 12:36:01] ayy_lmao : where does the 3.69 show up under
[2016-06-23 12:36:17] Avalanche : amount
[2016-06-23 12:36:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 591.37
[2016-06-23 12:36:53] ayy_lmao : your dpe was only 1 btc, not sure how the other 4 btc got taken
[2016-06-23 12:37:15] john : can somebody explain me why estimated DPE is still 0%...with the liquidation order out of sight?
[2016-06-23 12:37:29] ayy_lmao : mark price
[2016-06-23 12:37:36] ayy_lmao : still above liq
[2016-06-23 12:37:57] john : ahhhh ..manipulation....
[2016-06-23 12:38:08] john : well...yeah...makes sense....
[2016-06-23 12:43:15] bobo : is the insurance fund empty now? or is it used for the current 1.000.000 in liquidation?
[2016-06-23 12:43:44] macios15 : china dumps
[2016-06-23 12:45:13] bobo : wally, sam?
[2016-06-23 12:45:51] rapidtrades : i just switched to fixed margin....that amount is now locked and can not be withdrawn right?
[2016-06-23 12:46:07] luckynuke : doom
[2016-06-23 12:46:15] rapidtrades : don't want to get accidently LIQed with withdrawal
[2016-06-23 12:46:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25550 @ 587.56 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-23 12:46:54] arbitrage001 : oohh noooe
[2016-06-23 12:47:01] john : kijk...nu staan we al weer op DPE
[2016-06-23 12:47:07] arbitrage001 : another huge dpe for shorty
[2016-06-23 12:47:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 234700 @ 586.26 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-23 12:47:31] luckynuke : reeekt
[2016-06-23 12:48:12] subjective : going to be so many rekt with this adjustment..
[2016-06-23 12:48:25] subjective : wipe out most of my profits already now negative.
[2016-06-23 12:48:36] Skitrx : whats up with bitstamp?
[2016-06-23 12:48:47] rapidtrades : can i use lower fee then the recommended 0.0005
[2016-06-23 12:49:07] macios15 : bitstamp gox 2
[2016-06-23 12:49:15] ayy_lmao : stamp is 579
[2016-06-23 12:49:32] Skitrx : oh bitcoinwisdom api must be broke
[2016-06-23 12:49:46] ayy_lmao : https://cryptowat.ch/bitstamp/btcusd
[2016-06-23 12:53:27] btcccccc : Hello
[2016-06-23 12:53:27] macios15 : buy that 1,2mln and get rekt again like that 200k lamfo
[2016-06-23 12:53:55] Mm bot : heart beats with every green bar
[2016-06-23 12:54:06] arbitrage001 : high leverage is a problem
[2016-06-23 12:54:12] Avalanche : So I made a calculation, will need some explanation from bitmex
[2016-06-23 12:54:16] btcccccc : I have a question at the last rebalance a rather big fee was taken out of my account.
[2016-06-23 12:54:37] btcccccc : In the fee column something seems wrong.
[2016-06-23 12:54:49] john : thas was socialised loss from bankrupt parties of last 24h trading....
[2016-06-23 12:55:01] john : winners share those losses...i had also 7btc fee....
[2016-06-23 12:55:04] bobo : welcome to bitmex, welcome to hell
[2016-06-23 12:55:05] ayy_lmao : does it add up to 20% of your profit
[2016-06-23 12:55:08] macios15 : i think we slowly head 3000-3100
[2016-06-23 12:55:09] bobo : :)
[2016-06-23 12:55:11] ayy_lmao : if not then u might be right
[2016-06-23 12:55:17] btcccccc : ohh damn
[2016-06-23 12:55:24] btcccccc : thats a crazy amount
[2016-06-23 12:55:34] BitMEX_Wally : Please email support@bitmex.com if you have a question regarding your account
[2016-06-23 12:57:19] btcccccc : It seems more then 20% of the rebalance that I got
[2016-06-23 12:57:28] btcccccc : Is that correct?
[2016-06-23 12:57:34] BitMEX_Wally : btcccccc: The amount shown is after the fee has been taken
[2016-06-23 12:58:02] rapidtrades : lol brutal
[2016-06-23 12:58:37] btcccccc : thanks
[2016-06-23 12:58:39] Avalanche : I went short for 34810$ at 56.67XBT, covered that short for 52.52XBT and another went long for 18451$ for 30.48XBT covered that for 30.81XBT, so all in all 4.48XBT clean profit just for that, not to include Index profits
[2016-06-23 12:58:46] btcccccc : from now on water and dry bread for me
[2016-06-23 12:59:13] Avalanche : and at rebalance I got 3.69xbt profit
[2016-06-23 12:59:52] ayy_lmao : yah that makes sense
[2016-06-23 12:59:57] ayy_lmao : 20% fee for dpe
[2016-06-23 13:00:18] rapidtrades : finex time to leave china behind again
[2016-06-23 13:00:27] rapidtrades : they're dragging us down maaan...lietrally
[2016-06-23 13:00:47] ayy_lmao : bunch of crackheads
[2016-06-23 13:00:53] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: shouldnt it be the 4.48xbt + idnex profit for around 5xbt also ?
[2016-06-23 13:01:22] ayy_lmao : index profits? you mean funding?
[2016-06-23 13:01:34] macios15 : see you at $500
[2016-06-23 13:02:08] rapidtrades : yeah not gonna happen
[2016-06-23 13:02:09] bobo : rapidtrades: not literaly.. figuratively
[2016-06-23 13:02:11] xzsd : macios15: cya
[2016-06-23 13:02:13] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: I mean DPE
[2016-06-23 13:02:21] rapidtrades : c @bobo literally
[2016-06-23 13:02:24] bobo : i don't see any chinese guy hanging on your pants
[2016-06-23 13:02:31] bobo : show me a photo
[2016-06-23 13:02:36] rapidtrades : bobo don't be a dick
[2016-06-23 13:02:38] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: don't know what I mean to be honest
[2016-06-23 13:02:47] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-23 13:02:56] BitMEX_Wally : Avalanche: Your gross profit was 4.7303498 XBT including funding, but you don't pay DPE on funding profits
[2016-06-23 13:03:51] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: are withdrawals sent
[2016-06-23 13:04:26] subjective : when is June 24 BTC going to finish?
[2016-06-23 13:04:41] rapidtrades : tomorrow
[2016-06-23 13:04:47] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: They are being processed manually right now
[2016-06-23 13:04:59] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-06-23 13:05:16] Skitrx : 1.16m wow
[2016-06-23 13:09:31] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: when is next payout ?
[2016-06-23 13:12:20] arbitrage001 : positive funding means long will get interest?
[2016-06-23 13:13:26] ayy_lmao : shorts
[2016-06-23 13:14:46] luckynuke : how much are the interest for shorts ?
[2016-06-23 13:14:53] BitMEX_Wally : luckynuke: funding is paid out every 8 hours, profit is unlocked every 24 hours
[2016-06-23 13:15:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 85 @ 582.17
[2016-06-23 13:15:03] ayy_lmao : longs pay 0.5, shorts get 0.5
[2016-06-23 13:15:16] ayy_lmao : if you click on more details it tells you
[2016-06-23 13:15:41] luckynuke : thanks
[2016-06-23 13:15:54] BitMEX_Wally : Funding: 0.5192% in 7 hours
[2016-06-23 13:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 601 @ 579.70
[2016-06-23 13:16:15] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: short will get, right?
[2016-06-23 13:16:27] Avalanche : BitMEX_Wally: Ok, and about my situation, what's about DPE profits ?If I remember I was like 4.xxXBT in profit for that also
[2016-06-23 13:16:42] ayy_lmao : dpe isnt profit
[2016-06-23 13:16:55] ayy_lmao : thats a fee they take from you
[2016-06-23 13:17:10] Avalanche : hmm
[2016-06-23 13:17:13] mbaril : shit DPE to 16%
[2016-06-23 13:17:18] ayy_lmao : you must mean something else
[2016-06-23 13:17:37] xzsd : 16% of profit only fee?
[2016-06-23 13:17:44] ayy_lmao : yes
[2016-06-23 13:17:53] ayy_lmao : taken from profits you made since last rebalance
[2016-06-23 13:17:59] ayy_lmao : not your wallet
[2016-06-23 13:18:00] xzsd : i guess i should receive 16% of my loss too! hahaha
[2016-06-23 13:18:26] btcccccc : I see the fee of the next rebalance is starting to increase does this mean again today we will have DPE?
[2016-06-23 13:18:28] ayy_lmao : no, if you make 1 btc in profit and dpe is 20%, you will only get 0.8 btc
[2016-06-23 13:18:35] BitMEX_Wally : Avalanche: Your gross profit was 4.7303498 XBT and this was adjusted down by 22%
[2016-06-23 13:19:10] Avalanche : BitMEX_Wally: ok
[2016-06-23 13:19:33] xzsd : ayy_lmao: i understod, yu
[2016-06-23 13:19:37] xzsd : ty*
[2016-06-23 13:21:41] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Wally: How can only 24 btc is taken from the Insurance fund? And not 48?
[2016-06-23 13:22:39] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: so what's for witheld profit or DPE in wallet page represented as real profit
[2016-06-23 13:23:17] Avalanche : and not like DPE comision or something
[2016-06-23 13:23:40] ayy_lmao : dont know, only bitmex team can answer that
[2016-06-23 13:23:55] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: it's confusing
[2016-06-23 13:24:02] BitMEX_Wally : DPE is unrealised until rebalance
[2016-06-23 13:24:17] BitMEX_Wally : so we show your full profit and then withhold 100% of it
[2016-06-23 13:24:45] BitMEX_Wally : then after rebalance release 88% (if the ajustment was 22%)
[2016-06-23 13:25:05] JohnBoeg : 78
[2016-06-23 13:25:07] blurrrrrp : 78
[2016-06-23 13:25:08] xzsd : its DPE daily or just once
[2016-06-23 13:25:15] xzsd : 78?
[2016-06-23 13:25:17] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry 78
[2016-06-23 13:25:34] Avalanche : BitMEX_Wally: my DPE was like 4+ in profit, and after rebalance i got nothing and had to pay 22%
[2016-06-23 13:25:39] Avalanche : I don't get that part
[2016-06-23 13:26:07] ayy_lmao : do you mean withheld profit?
[2016-06-23 13:26:12] Avalanche : yes
[2016-06-23 13:26:15] ayy_lmao : oh
[2016-06-23 13:26:21] ayy_lmao : thats included in your wallet balance
[2016-06-23 13:26:46] ayy_lmao : withheld profit just shows how much of your wallet balance in unavailable
[2016-06-23 13:26:52] ayy_lmao : they arent too different profits
[2016-06-23 13:27:06] Avalanche : too confusing
[2016-06-23 13:27:49] ayy_lmao : if my wallet balance says 10 btc, and my withheld profit shows 5 btc, that means 5 btc of my wallet is not accessible until re balance
[2016-06-23 13:28:01] BitMEX_Wally : Avalanche: you paid 22% and the remaining 78% was paid into your wallet as a cash rebalance
[2016-06-23 13:28:01] ayy_lmao : it doesnt mean you have 15 btc if thats what you mean
[2016-06-23 13:28:31] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: @BitMEX_Wally ok
[2016-06-23 13:28:43] BitMEX_Wally : After rebalance your withheld profit went to 0
[2016-06-23 13:28:53] Avalanche : BitMEX_Wally: yes
[2016-06-23 13:31:30] Avalanche : so u make money from DPE just by holding your position until the next rebalance in every 8h
[2016-06-23 13:32:13] Avalanche : right now if you go long you will get 0.5%
[2016-06-23 13:32:15] Avalanche : right ?
[2016-06-23 13:32:16] ayy_lmao : from funding
[2016-06-23 13:32:21] ayy_lmao : doe and funding are different
[2016-06-23 13:32:24] ayy_lmao : dpe*
[2016-06-23 13:32:41] justinlooking : Avalanche: no positive funding rate pays shorts
[2016-06-23 13:32:51] ayy_lmao : dpe only happens when there is an unfilled liquidation on the orderbook, funding is the fee charged to borrow btc
[2016-06-23 13:33:01] ayy_lmao : you cant profit from dpe
[2016-06-23 13:33:09] rapidtrades : afaik DPE was there when u entered the trade
[2016-06-23 13:33:09] ayy_lmao : you can from funding
[2016-06-23 13:33:11] Avalanche : justinlooking: yes, my mistake
[2016-06-23 13:33:25] rapidtrades : so u bare some responsibilty here
[2016-06-23 13:33:35] rapidtrades : when did it hit? around 624 or smth
[2016-06-23 13:34:20] rapidtrades : then u entered long knowing DPE was there
[2016-06-23 13:34:45] rapidtrades : well not knowing but u should've known...its right there in %
[2016-06-23 13:35:19] rapidtrades : still 90% of the blame for this unfair system is with bitmex and other futures operators
[2016-06-23 13:35:32] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: tnx for you help
[2016-06-23 13:35:40] ayy_lmao : np
[2016-06-23 13:35:55] Avalanche : I still don't get it why keep it soo confusing
[2016-06-23 13:36:07] Avalanche : with so many variables
[2016-06-23 13:36:30] Avalanche : and techical terms
[2016-06-23 13:36:45] rapidtrades : its a derivative exchange....trade small until u learn how it works
[2016-06-23 13:37:03] rapidtrades : well not exchange but whatever its called
[2016-06-23 13:37:28] rapidtrades : Avalanche: use spot for ur big trades and trade small here until u get it....would be my advice
[2016-06-23 13:37:33] arbitrage001 : baby
[2016-06-23 13:37:37] arbitrage001 : dpdpe clear
[2016-06-23 13:37:44] arbitrage001 : trading time
[2016-06-23 13:37:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1025 @ 588.76
[2016-06-23 13:37:52] rapidtrades : woah..missed that
[2016-06-23 13:38:22] ayy_lmao : wow
[2016-06-23 13:38:24] rapidtrades : he took 800k in one slice
[2016-06-23 13:38:26] Avalanche : rapidtrades: yeah, I come from normal exchanges and FX
[2016-06-23 13:38:38] justinlooking : rapid think i saw him bid over by 1.1m then pulled as well,
[2016-06-23 13:38:47] justinlooking : proper limits
[2016-06-23 13:38:48] xzsd : was fake
[2016-06-23 13:39:08] aethlios : rapidtrades: I guess was the same person who had the dpe
[2016-06-23 13:39:55] rapidtrades : and his name was sleger!
[2016-06-23 13:40:18] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-06-23 13:40:42] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Wally if the buyer was the same person who had the dpe, then you should do something.
[2016-06-23 13:40:48] Avalanche : So just to make it clear, Unrealised PNL (ROE % ) do you ro can you make profits from that or ?
[2016-06-23 13:40:51] ayy_lmao : y
[2016-06-23 13:41:01] JohnBoeg : BitMEX_Wally: Wally if the buyer was the same person who had the dpe, then you should do something. This is true
[2016-06-23 13:41:09] ayy_lmao : why cant he send more bitcoin here to buy it
[2016-06-23 13:41:09] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-06-23 13:41:33] rapidtrades : cos we got DPed to bring the liq down and he then bought it up @ayy_lmao
[2016-06-23 13:41:39] j8 : do something? do what? its not against the rules
[2016-06-23 13:41:50] rapidtrades : he basically got a 1.2 mil position with no slippage
[2016-06-23 13:42:03] ayy_lmao : after he lost 50 btc
[2016-06-23 13:42:23] rapidtrades : u don't know if he lost anything
[2016-06-23 13:42:37] JohnBoeg : That's true, but he's abusing the liquidation system then.
[2016-06-23 13:42:47] rapidtrades : if its the same guy
[2016-06-23 13:42:48] JohnBoeg : Which SHOULD be against the rules :-)
[2016-06-23 13:42:52] elmorte : Charging shorts in this market is just cruel...
[2016-06-23 13:43:14] xzsd : punkman
[2016-06-23 13:43:18] ayy_lmao : how do you get liquidated and not lose your money?
[2016-06-23 13:43:36] rapidtrades : u do lose about 1.2% but thats tiny for a 1.2 mil order
[2016-06-23 13:43:48] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-06-23 13:43:49] rapidtrades : imagine how much slippage is that if u used the orderbook
[2016-06-23 13:43:50] JohnBoeg : And get to grab it back way under the price
[2016-06-23 13:43:53] aethlios : it is not "against" the rules but he had 40% of all open positions.
[2016-06-23 13:44:06] rapidtrades : right its not but maybe it should be
[2016-06-23 13:44:31] Avalanche : I loose all when I got liquidated
[2016-06-23 13:44:34] j8 : basically there's lots of possible abuses with such a low penalty for liquidation (0.5%), and it's made worse when the market is a few dollars away from the mark price
[2016-06-23 13:44:42] aethlios : rapidtrades: Has happened many times in the past. dpes are cleared with one or two large orders.
[2016-06-23 13:44:59] rapidtrades : its 1.2 but ok...still too small for 1.2 m order, thats YUGE
[2016-06-23 13:45:17] rapidtrades : 1.2%
[2016-06-23 13:45:24] ayy_lmao : guys when you get liquidated you lose it all, wut are you talking about
[2016-06-23 13:45:34] rapidtrades : dunno why u keep saying 0.5%, if u use the calc its closer to 1
[2016-06-23 13:45:48] justinlooking : ^^ rapid u just like whinging or what?
[2016-06-23 13:46:05] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: right but u cant' executed 1.2 m on the market without crashing prices $20-$50
[2016-06-23 13:46:21] Avalanche : ayy_lmao: I got liquidated on few spikes and lost whole position
[2016-06-23 13:46:22] ayy_lmao : he still lost his money
[2016-06-23 13:46:28] ayy_lmao : even if he bought it back
[2016-06-23 13:46:34] ayy_lmao : he lost the 50 btc
[2016-06-23 13:46:49] rapidtrades : but he would've lost MORE if he played it honest by closing on the book
[2016-06-23 13:46:52] j8 : rapidtrades: it's 0.5% plus fees and funding but only funding for the period you buy it in
[2016-06-23 13:46:52] ayy_lmao : now he just has another 50 btc position
[2016-06-23 13:47:00] rapidtrades : whats so f hard to understand
[2016-06-23 13:47:07] aethlios : ayy_lmao: you lose the margin for that order, not all the account.
[2016-06-23 13:47:19] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-06-23 13:47:21] ayy_lmao : depends if your on cross or fixed
[2016-06-23 13:47:42] rapidtrades : j8: use the calc
[2016-06-23 13:48:17] mbaril : DPE never go negatif
[2016-06-23 13:48:32] mbaril : So we lost if there is lon liquidation but we get nothing if there is short liquidation
[2016-06-23 13:49:05] aethlios : I propose I rule that you can't buy back your own dpe order. If your position is dpe'd you are out of that trade.
[2016-06-23 13:49:06] elmorte : mbaril: everyone in green gets a haircut
[2016-06-23 13:49:15] rapidtrades : now same or different guy has another long order....keep that in mind when opening shorts again
[2016-06-23 13:49:32] ayy_lmao : guys its called a liquidation order
[2016-06-23 13:49:46] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: :D :D :D
[2016-06-23 13:49:55] wurstgelee : i was curious when they will figure it out...
[2016-06-23 13:49:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-23 13:50:01] ayy_lmao : i no rite
[2016-06-23 13:50:03] rapidtrades : u can't effectively close 1 mil in this market, he will liquidate at some point if we go down
[2016-06-23 13:50:50] ayy_lmao : so you just dont like the fact that he was able to have such a large position
[2016-06-23 13:50:52] ayy_lmao : u want limits correct?
[2016-06-23 13:51:18] Avalanche : So i need to put 50btc so I can't get liqudated
[2016-06-23 13:51:31] Avalanche : that's what I get it now
[2016-06-23 13:52:07] Avalanche : that's funny
[2016-06-23 13:52:10] wurstgelee : no amount ofc btc can save u from losses. okcoin #1 holder tried ;)
[2016-06-23 13:52:37] wurstgelee : and i am not talking small fish 50btc here....
[2016-06-23 13:53:05] haxmb : aethlios: @JohnBoeg i agree on the if its the same person issue
[2016-06-23 13:53:34] justinlooking : sounds pointless to me, u can just use multiple accounts
[2016-06-23 13:54:30] j8 : just think, if that guy hadn't bought it it would still be there
[2016-06-23 13:54:42] ayy_lmao : he saved u guys from more dpe lol
[2016-06-23 13:55:45] sterky : tumbleweeds on FCT
[2016-06-23 13:56:50] macios15 : ayy_lmao: he still can get rekt now
[2016-06-23 13:56:59] haxmb : RE-REKT
[2016-06-23 13:56:59] haxmb : :D
[2016-06-23 13:57:02] ayy_lmao : sure
[2016-06-23 13:57:07] ayy_lmao : but that hasnt happned yet
[2016-06-23 13:57:11] rapidtrades : he will get rekt for sure
[2016-06-23 13:57:16] j8 : rapidtrades: btw i used the calculator and you're still wrong, or we're talking about different things
[2016-06-23 13:57:31] rapidtrades : idk man its always been closer to 1%
[2016-06-23 13:57:34] rapidtrades : ask support
[2016-06-23 13:58:03] rapidtrades : for example, with current prices a REKT will cost u around $6
[2016-06-23 13:58:06] j8 : for a 50x short you draw down 1.5% then get liquidated and lose 0.5%
[2016-06-23 13:58:08] rapidtrades : per bitcoin
[2016-06-23 13:58:11] ayy_lmao : dpe is always going to happen as long as people overleverage
[2016-06-23 13:58:22] ayy_lmao : or you put some limit on position size
[2016-06-23 13:58:29] ayy_lmao : so no point in arguing over it
[2016-06-23 13:58:35] xzsd : Bitcoin is not smooth jazz, bitcoin is punk rock! Volatility is not a problem, it's a feature. Satoshi Nakamoto is a genius and everything will be fine.
[2016-06-23 13:58:37] j8 : if you're long you also have to cover the funding which is ~0.5% now, so it would be closer to 1%
[2016-06-23 13:58:56] rapidtrades : it was 1% even before
[2016-06-23 13:59:11] rapidtrades : i got rekted once and got shaved 1%
[2016-06-23 13:59:14] j8 : on june and sept yes
[2016-06-23 13:59:23] j8 : on XBTUSD, no
[2016-06-23 13:59:24] rapidtrades : maybe a frequent rekter can confirm
[2016-06-23 13:59:29] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-23 14:00:11] rapidtrades : this bouncee was way too small
[2016-06-23 14:00:35] rapidtrades : we dropped 30% we were up what....less then 10?
[2016-06-23 14:02:26] rapidtrades : dare i say it.....
[2016-06-23 14:02:30] rapidtrades : this is the one true bounce?
[2016-06-23 14:04:20] xzsd : godd night China
[2016-06-23 14:04:58] rapidtrades : yesss china sleeping.....time to go finex
[2016-06-23 14:06:35] rullwull : who gets premium now longs or shorts?
[2016-06-23 14:06:45] songxf : why was I charged a huge fee for the rebalance?
[2016-06-23 14:06:53] songxf : on XBTUSD
[2016-06-23 14:07:00] rullwull : yes
[2016-06-23 14:07:14] BitMEX_Sam : songxf: You weren't charged a fee on rebalance
[2016-06-23 14:07:41] songxf : what was that then?
[2016-06-23 14:07:53] BitMEX_Sam : Are you referring to the Funding tx?
[2016-06-23 14:08:11] j8 : its DPE, it shows as a fee on the cash rebalance
[2016-06-23 14:08:21] BitMEX_Wally : The 'fee' column shows the amount of DPE that was taken from your profit
[2016-06-23 14:08:39] songxf : I see. DPE is quite big: what happend?
[2016-06-23 14:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : There was a very large liquidation on the way down yesterday
[2016-06-23 14:13:21] rapidtrades : mmm stamp dropped to $1.5? or was that quote error
[2016-06-23 14:13:40] ayy_lmao : not sure
[2016-06-23 14:34:12] bitrader : hi
[2016-06-23 14:34:32] bitrader : someone can help me pls ?
[2016-06-23 14:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : bitrader: Sure, what's the issue?
[2016-06-23 14:35:36] bitrader : i'm new user on bitmex
[2016-06-23 14:36:15] bitrader : and i want know what are spread to trade btc ?
[2016-06-23 14:36:28] BitMEX_Sam : You can see the currently trading XBT/USD market at https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD
[2016-06-23 14:36:43] BitMEX_Sam : Spready right now is $0.39.
[2016-06-23 14:36:45] BitMEX_Sam : Spread*
[2016-06-23 14:37:54] bitrader : ok
[2016-06-23 14:38:47] bitrader : i must be log to consult all fees ?
[2016-06-23 14:39:41] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-06-23 14:40:01] rapidtrades : cmon it have to bounce sometime...this is BS
[2016-06-23 14:41:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 580.98
[2016-06-23 14:41:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 23 @ 577.50
[2016-06-23 14:42:29] macios15 : wait for that 1m to liq
[2016-06-23 14:43:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 387 @ 576.29
[2016-06-23 14:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 575.46 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-23 14:44:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 574.43
[2016-06-23 14:44:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-06-23 14:44:48] rapidtrades : crazy
[2016-06-23 14:46:44] rapidtrades : i mean this is exactly the scenario i expected for halvening...pump followed by crash
[2016-06-23 14:46:58] rapidtrades : but selling seems so overdone short-term
[2016-06-23 14:48:15] bitrader : it's ok, thank i will process..
[2016-06-23 14:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 574.20
[2016-06-23 14:49:09] bitrader : yes i think also
[2016-06-23 14:50:04] bitrader : i have keep short pos (xbt) before halving
[2016-06-23 14:50:44] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: if u expected this scenario, y did u keep ur long open all the way down? :/
[2016-06-23 14:52:19] rapidtrades : don't be an idiot wurst
[2016-06-23 14:52:51] luckynuke : wurstgelee: hey wurst
[2016-06-23 14:53:26] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: u look like an idiot with saying short and acting long tbh
[2016-06-23 14:53:31] wurstgelee : luckynuke: gday ;)
[2016-06-23 14:53:53] bitrader : do a break to 3200 yuan
[2016-06-23 14:53:56] luckynuke : btw https://www.tradingview.com/x/NbFBpP8B/
[2016-06-23 14:54:12] bitrader : i dont know in usd
[2016-06-23 14:54:57] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: if i remember right u said 'taking a small long' sveral times yday so ur no better
[2016-06-23 14:55:08] rapidtrades : u just hide ur losses like a bitch
[2016-06-23 14:55:39] macios15 : china botom
[2016-06-23 14:55:41] wurstgelee : no, i close those longs either $10 higher, or stop loss $3 lower
[2016-06-23 14:55:48] wurstgelee : scalps, nothing else
[2016-06-23 14:55:56] wurstgelee : thats completely different from holding all the way down
[2016-06-23 14:57:53] luckynuke : lets see if 3700 to 3740 breaks, then short
[2016-06-23 14:59:34] macios15 : nice botom
[2016-06-23 15:00:33] wurstgelee : work done, long order in place, time to go home
[2016-06-23 15:00:35] wurstgelee : bbl
[2016-06-23 15:00:49] luckynuke : bb good luck
[2016-06-23 15:01:03] bitrader : BitMEX_Sam we can trade on MT4 ?
[2016-06-23 15:03:35] macios15 : that 800k guy gona be rekt soon lol
[2016-06-23 15:05:40] rapidtrades : 'work done time to go home'
[2016-06-23 15:05:58] rapidtrades : what a lil b1tch man...nine to fiver lecturing me on trading
[2016-06-23 15:06:39] luckynuke : there we go
[2016-06-23 15:08:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5400 @ 569.12
[2016-06-23 15:09:02] BitMEX_Sam : bitrader: We don't have MT4 support yet.
[2016-06-23 15:09:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 25 @ 705.14
[2016-06-23 15:09:35] bitrader : BitMEX_Sam ok maybe in futur :)
[2016-06-23 15:09:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it's on our list.
[2016-06-23 15:49:03] justinlooking : but but but halving
[2016-06-23 15:55:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2800 @ 567.63
[2016-06-23 15:56:13] luckynuke : bb bitcoin see you at 500
[2016-06-23 15:56:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 278145 @ 564.92 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-23 15:56:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 81532 @ 563.75 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-23 15:56:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6752 @ 564.52
[2016-06-23 15:56:51] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-06-23 15:56:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 10 @ 561.96
[2016-06-23 15:57:01] Skitrx : is REKT a bot?
[2016-06-23 15:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2000 @ 560.51
[2016-06-23 15:57:11] luckynuke : Skitrx: nope
[2016-06-23 15:57:21] luckynuke : Skitrx: chinese man
[2016-06-23 15:57:34] nip : REKT closes your position when you get close to liquidation
[2016-06-23 15:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1035328 @ 560.80 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-23 15:57:50] BitMEX_Sam : REKT is a bot that is hooked up to the liquidations feed.
[2016-06-23 15:57:55] nip : hes the one selling 366429 contracts right now
[2016-06-23 15:58:03] RoftheN : Wow that guy is rekt
[2016-06-23 15:58:17] macios15 : told u that guy gona get rekt
[2016-06-23 15:58:21] luckynuke : lol the dude with 1397707 contracts is back
[2016-06-23 15:58:54] luckynuke : rollercoaster wooohoooo
[2016-06-23 15:59:21] BitMEX_Sam : That's a pretty good buy considering spot.
[2016-06-23 16:00:21] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-06-23 16:00:25] ayy_lmao : loooooool
[2016-06-23 16:00:38] luckynuke : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for your tip
[2016-06-23 16:00:56] macios15 : finex dont withdraw coins
[2016-06-23 16:01:04] luckynuke : macios15: what
[2016-06-23 16:01:24] ayy_lmao : rekt for another 50 bc
[2016-06-23 16:01:28] ayy_lmao : btc
[2016-06-23 16:01:53] dorothy490 : great spot to buy guys!
[2016-06-23 16:02:13] dorothy490 : buy all teh bitcoins
[2016-06-23 16:02:48] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-06-23 16:02:59] ayy_lmao : did that liq order really just move up
[2016-06-23 16:03:08] luckynuke : come on bitcoin, leave me alone -.-
[2016-06-23 16:03:27] xzsd : again 1.2m
[2016-06-23 16:03:35] Avalanche : how did that liq order move ?
[2016-06-23 16:04:08] yerb : we damand you cap the orders of rektosaurus accounts
[2016-06-23 16:04:27] CaptainDean : it's a bot reporting liquidiation
[2016-06-23 16:04:33] yerb : this is irresponsible and we are paying for it
[2016-06-23 16:04:42] Avalanche : yerb: agree
[2016-06-23 16:04:43] nip : yeah sleger
[2016-06-23 16:04:49] nip : here comes more dpe
[2016-06-23 16:06:15] xzsd : lol
[2016-06-23 16:07:32] xzsd : 0.5m has gone
[2016-06-23 16:08:13] luckynuke : who is betting that muchfor shorting btc ?
[2016-06-23 16:08:17] luckynuke : banks maybe ?
[2016-06-23 16:09:03] xzsd : opportunite for re-entry maybe
[2016-06-23 16:09:12] yerb : bitmex cant even bounce :/
[2016-06-23 16:09:42] yerb : thanx you whale prick!
[2016-06-23 16:09:48] Yumi : oh thats a big discount
[2016-06-23 16:09:52] ayy_lmao : fucking lol
[2016-06-23 16:10:07] xzsd : nice shot
[2016-06-23 16:10:56] Avalanche : this is manipulation :)
[2016-06-23 16:11:08] xzsd : finex already $570
[2016-06-23 16:11:10] cekseh : All markets are manipulation =)
[2016-06-23 16:11:32] Avalanche : cekseh: to some extent yes
[2016-06-23 16:13:34] CaptainDean : this is ridiculous
[2016-06-23 16:14:04] justinlooking : u mean rekticulous
[2016-06-23 16:14:28] MrJ1m : dat rektosaurusrekt tho
[2016-06-23 16:14:28] rapidtrades : available balance 0 lol @me
[2016-06-23 16:15:05] ayy_lmao : did u rly
[2016-06-23 16:15:06] MrJ1m : once it is removed, easy 1-1.5% considering spot atm
[2016-06-23 16:15:11] yerb : and when we eat this wall, its gonna dump
[2016-06-23 16:15:19] MrJ1m : prolly
[2016-06-23 16:15:25] rapidtrades : yerb: is that how it works
[2016-06-23 16:15:29] Avalanche : yes, and you will miss the move
[2016-06-23 16:15:38] luckynuke : dat bot trap :D
[2016-06-23 16:15:41] rapidtrades : Avalanche: too bad i can't buy i gues
[2016-06-23 16:15:49] MrJ1m : but if spot retrace, its gonne be removed
[2016-06-23 16:15:52] xzsd : lol
[2016-06-23 16:15:59] xzsd : was 1.2m
[2016-06-23 16:16:00] MrJ1m : not happening i guess tho
[2016-06-23 16:16:01] Avalanche : rapidtrades: I bought 50k
[2016-06-23 16:16:01] MrJ1m : popcorn
[2016-06-23 16:16:07] xzsd : drained to 0.6m
[2016-06-23 16:16:17] xzsd : my coffe get cold
[2016-06-23 16:16:32] yerb : MrJ1m: not removed, just placed lo
[2016-06-23 16:16:33] Avalanche : I don't wonna put more, since it can rekt you anytime
[2016-06-23 16:16:39] MrJ1m : ye
[2016-06-23 16:16:49] MrJ1m : or if price go up then higher obv
[2016-06-23 16:16:51] MrJ1m : gotta be eaten
[2016-06-23 16:17:01] rapidtrades : Avalanche: 50k...dude u don't even know how the platform works yet
[2016-06-23 16:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 11749 @ 60805.0
[2016-06-23 16:17:33] Avalanche : it doesn't work, it's controlled by few whales at the moment
[2016-06-23 16:18:01] rapidtrades : well its ur money
[2016-06-23 16:18:40] dorothy490 : wow yen
[2016-06-23 16:18:52] igloo : how do you close positions=
[2016-06-23 16:19:12] dorothy490 : wait till margin call and deposit again thats how
[2016-06-23 16:19:32] mbaril : 675k again
[2016-06-23 16:19:39] mbaril : who is shorting like that
[2016-06-23 16:19:44] nip : sleger
[2016-06-23 16:19:47] mbaril : 1.2mil + 675k is almost 2 mil
[2016-06-23 16:19:47] elmorte : damn, just the interest payable on that thing is $3500...
[2016-06-23 16:19:48] luckynuke : mbaril: banks
[2016-06-23 16:19:49] rapidtrades : its a long iquidation
[2016-06-23 16:19:50] yerb : mbaril: its liquidation
[2016-06-23 16:19:53] esuvari : it's not a short, it's a long liq.
[2016-06-23 16:19:59] nip : its sleger
[2016-06-23 16:20:08] nip : AND its a liquidation :)
[2016-06-23 16:20:08] mbaril : how do you know its a long liquidation ?
[2016-06-23 16:20:18] yerb : sleger is depositing new money?
[2016-06-23 16:20:27] rapidtrades : they say if u say his name out-loud he will appear
[2016-06-23 16:20:28] justinlooking : mbaril: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-23 16:20:34] yerb : cap his account now!!