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[2016-06-22 17:17:48] wurstgelee : Moo: haha. imagine the twitter madness if those coins move....
[2016-06-22 17:17:49] wurstgelee : ;
[2016-06-22 17:17:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 17:18:04] Tetsuo : oaths have been invented to be broken, i´m sry rapid
[2016-06-22 17:18:25] Moo : he wouldn't even have to sell them. just set himself up with maximum shorts, move coins, profit
[2016-06-22 17:18:30] rapidtrades : and now you have Super Aids
[2016-06-22 17:18:34] wurstgelee : Moo: yep
[2016-06-22 17:18:36] rapidtrades : congratulations @Tetsuo
[2016-06-22 17:18:45] Tetsuo : :-(
[2016-06-22 17:18:46] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: HIV Aladeen?
[2016-06-22 17:19:19] Moo : just give me $5 please
[2016-06-22 17:19:23] Moo : end my pain
[2016-06-22 17:19:35] wurstgelee : Moo: still close to mc?
[2016-06-22 17:19:54] wurstgelee : situation should improve for u atm tho ;)
[2016-06-22 17:19:56] Moo : mark is now $1.50 away from entry
[2016-06-22 17:20:38] rapidtrades : we prolly set the low until friday settlement
[2016-06-22 17:20:48] Moo : I wouldn't be surprised
[2016-06-22 17:21:09] rapidtrades : its not looking good for the bulls longer-term tho
[2016-06-22 17:21:09] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i have to agree, last quarterlies from okc will also close at that point
[2016-06-22 17:21:20] Moo : but this dump was too predictable. btc dumps until one last unpredictable one.
[2016-06-22 17:21:25] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: i cant believe i am saying this, but i tend to agree ;)
[2016-06-22 17:21:26] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: what was that you meant about when we hit 650 mate?
[2016-06-22 17:22:10] rapidtrades : i nice swing low...like a V shaped recovery
[2016-06-22 17:22:21] Moo : as soon as we're all long and talking about how the bottom is in. that's when we'll get a new bottom
[2016-06-22 17:22:26] BTCDJS : ah
[2016-06-22 17:23:03] Tetsuo : end the end it might just have been another chinese halving pump and dump game, a small percentage in me however still believes that a new ATH comes in this year, however after the bottom we will get at least a nice mega bull trap
[2016-06-22 17:24:04] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: +1
[2016-06-22 17:24:18] Moo : this dump is only because everybody is expecting it
[2016-06-22 17:24:23] wurstgelee : tbh it doesnt really matter to me if we get a new ath or not. as long as we dont have boring sideways
[2016-06-22 17:24:50] Tetsuo : Moo: close your longs now, or your name will get added to the rekt list
[2016-06-22 17:25:22] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: more downleges u think?
[2016-06-22 17:25:25] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-06-22 17:25:53] Tetsuo : probably not now, but when everyone thinks he´s safe the chinks will drop it to a lower low before friday
[2016-06-22 17:26:14] wurstgelee : ah ok, yepp. ;)
[2016-06-22 17:26:52] rapidtrades : he's safe
[2016-06-22 17:27:19] arbitrage001 : don't forget trading is a zero sum game
[2016-06-22 17:27:27] rapidtrades : but if i had a danger of MC I would deposit more or cut my position
[2016-06-22 17:30:02] Moo : I'll deposit more after liquidation
[2016-06-22 17:30:03] null : on settlement, where can I see how much I lost to DPE?
[2016-06-22 17:30:17] Moo : so go ahead and liquidate me
[2016-06-22 17:30:47] aethlios : finex very strong and confident, 7 usd above okcoin weekly is a big thing, in the 800 territory it was 70 usd below. huge spread changes.
[2016-06-22 17:31:10] arbitrage001 : aethlios: finex above china is not a good sign
[2016-06-22 17:31:41] rapidtrades : it is when okc was shown to blatantly manipulate narkets
[2016-06-22 17:31:50] j8 : especially spot above futures.. you're reading that wrong
[2016-06-22 17:32:35] rapidtrades : futures on okc are worthless just shifting paper around
[2016-06-22 17:32:38] arbitrage001 : future market in backwardation mode?
[2016-06-22 17:33:00] rapidtrades : they could just 'sell'' millions and noone would be wiser
[2016-06-22 17:33:19] Moo : this will dump until you buy futures under spot, then boom
[2016-06-22 17:33:25] aethlios : @arbitrage001 from strong contango....
[2016-06-22 17:33:33] Moo : until you can* buy futures under spot
[2016-06-22 17:33:33] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: unless okc halt withdraw, they need to follow law of physic
[2016-06-22 17:33:50] rapidtrades : again futures don't matter but believe what u want
[2016-06-22 17:33:58] rapidtrades : ppl traded at gox until the last day
[2016-06-22 17:34:24] ayy_lmao : they could actually have more btc in orders than in actual existence, think about that
[2016-06-22 17:34:44] j8 : they matter to futures traders
[2016-06-22 17:35:13] arbitrage001 : j8: it is quite clear many here are just gambling
[2016-06-22 17:35:22] justinlooking : guilty
[2016-06-22 17:35:23] j8 : for sure
[2016-06-22 17:35:24] aethlios : I remember when we crashed 500 to 300 the same happened, okcoin futures to a discount.
[2016-06-22 17:36:17] aethlios : I will try to catch 5000 cheap 4.01 ltc in the next dump at finex.....
[2016-06-22 17:36:23] Moo : I'm here because the leverage lets me put small collateral up, but I can trade like a big boy, and I limit my loss to 1btc.
[2016-06-22 17:36:57] Moo : if I liquidate, I'll go off of it for a week or so, then put another 1btc in and begin again
[2016-06-22 17:37:16] rapidtrades : u need a cheaper hobby
[2016-06-22 17:37:26] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-06-22 17:37:33] Moo : if I lose 1btc a month, I'm fine
[2016-06-22 17:37:50] arbitrage001 : many part of the world, people work for less than 1 btc a month
[2016-06-22 17:38:02] Moo : I work for around 10btc a month
[2016-06-22 17:38:12] arbitrage001 : good for you then
[2016-06-22 17:38:32] arbitrage001 : you are european or american?
[2016-06-22 17:38:37] arbitrage001 : or japanese
[2016-06-22 17:39:04] Moo : sweedish
[2016-06-22 17:39:10] arbitrage001 : how nice
[2016-06-22 17:39:19] arbitrage001 : girls there are freaking hot
[2016-06-22 17:39:20] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-22 17:40:09] aethlios : dynamic arb is a profitable business in the bitcoin space.
[2016-06-22 17:41:12] arbitrage001 : doesnt look like it will work well here with dpe
[2016-06-22 17:41:27] arbitrage001 : 1 dpe to wipe out whole week of work
[2016-06-22 17:58:41] messiaen8844 : mex still usting more stamp tham finex
[2016-06-22 17:58:52] messiaen8844 : on kaiko
[2016-06-22 17:59:12] hey : no
[2016-06-22 17:59:29] hey : it changed back at 12.00 utc
[2016-06-22 17:59:39] Rado : I was working with Sweedish tourist when I was yang
[2016-06-22 17:59:46] messiaen8844 : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-22 17:59:58] Rado : girls are hot :-)
[2016-06-22 18:00:05] messiaen8844 : mark price much below regular kaiko
[2016-06-22 18:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19898 @ 622.62
[2016-06-22 18:01:33] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: seems correct to me
[2016-06-22 18:01:44] wurstgelee : yep, it is
[2016-06-22 18:02:04] wurstgelee : refresh maybe, i happened to experience a frozen mark price at times ;)
[2016-06-22 18:02:22] messiaen8844 : i mean, below https://www.kaiko.com/price-index/global
[2016-06-22 18:02:46] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: that index has more exchanges included i guess
[2016-06-22 18:02:51] wurstgelee : not only 3
[2016-06-22 18:03:29] wurstgelee : yep. see weight distribution
[2016-06-22 18:03:55] hey : messiaen8844: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-22 18:04:02] wurstgelee : china dominated index
[2016-06-22 18:04:42] Moo : this is it
[2016-06-22 18:04:49] Moo : i didn't close
[2016-06-22 18:04:56] Moo : and now my time is done
[2016-06-22 18:04:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 620.68
[2016-06-22 18:04:59] Tetsuo : good work , lel
[2016-06-22 18:05:19] arbitrage001 : Moo: that is your liquidation?
[2016-06-22 18:05:30] wurstgelee : 8050 iirc
[2016-06-22 18:05:52] arbitrage001 : easy to recover since you make 10btc a month
[2016-06-22 18:06:03] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-06-22 18:06:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 23523 @ 620.33 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-22 18:06:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 618.13
[2016-06-22 18:06:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11 @ 617.94
[2016-06-22 18:06:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 620.53
[2016-06-22 18:06:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9000 @ 617.19
[2016-06-22 18:06:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 75000 @ 617.15 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-22 18:06:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 617.21
[2016-06-22 18:06:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4500 @ 616.93
[2016-06-22 18:06:19] arbitrage001 : dpe going to be huge lol
[2016-06-22 18:06:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14050 @ 615.70
[2016-06-22 18:06:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4930 @ 615.58
[2016-06-22 18:06:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1660 @ 615.25
[2016-06-22 18:06:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13 @ 615.25
[2016-06-22 18:07:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 613.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-22 18:07:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 4000 @ 0.00634
[2016-06-22 18:07:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 612.94
[2016-06-22 18:07:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 612.68
[2016-06-22 18:07:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 612.60
[2016-06-22 18:07:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10616 @ 611.57
[2016-06-22 18:07:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 610.91
[2016-06-22 18:07:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2100 @ 610.98
[2016-06-22 18:07:41] Moo : alright well
[2016-06-22 18:07:52] Rado : Was this as a result of the index change?
[2016-06-22 18:07:55] Moo : enjoy the subsequent rally
[2016-06-22 18:07:58] QuantFocus : holy shit, DPE
[2016-06-22 18:08:04] Rado : or simply because BTC is dumping
[2016-06-22 18:08:08] Moo : which I knew was coming
[2016-06-22 18:08:11] Moo : which I banked on
[2016-06-22 18:08:18] Moo : but didn't bank on correctly
[2016-06-22 18:08:32] Moo : this is bs
[2016-06-22 18:08:42] Moo : down just enough to screw me over
[2016-06-22 18:08:48] arbitrage001 : Moo: have you consider you actually dont know anything
[2016-06-22 18:08:58] Moo : look at this
[2016-06-22 18:09:02] Moo : I knew this
[2016-06-22 18:09:05] Moo : was gonna happen
[2016-06-22 18:09:15] Moo : see you at 680
[2016-06-22 18:09:16] jesperf : more words
[2016-06-22 18:09:16] jesperf : er
[2016-06-22 18:09:18] jesperf : per
[2016-06-22 18:09:19] jesperf : line
[2016-06-22 18:09:21] jesperf : please
[2016-06-22 18:10:34] Moo : seriously you guys?
[2016-06-22 18:10:48] QuantFocus : i kinda hope not before rebalance
[2016-06-22 18:10:52] Moo : you have to rub it in by going above my entry price 5 mins after liquidating me?
[2016-06-22 18:11:16] arbitrage001 : Moo: this is worldwide price drop
[2016-06-22 18:11:23] arbitrage001 : not just bitmex out to get you
[2016-06-22 18:11:47] ayy_lmao : f*cked up shit you
[2016-06-22 18:11:50] ayy_lmao : yo
[2016-06-22 18:12:03] Tetsuo : if you go 50x during this time of a crash, short or long, you really are screaming to get rekt
[2016-06-22 18:13:31] Tetsuo : just the noise trades will do 2% jumps within a minute easily
[2016-06-22 18:13:54] Moo : on the chart, my liq price was never hit
[2016-06-22 18:14:13] Moo : liquidated me anyway
[2016-06-22 18:14:29] Rado : Moo liqudation is based on mark price
[2016-06-22 18:14:32] Rado : not real trades
[2016-06-22 18:15:05] Moo : I understand, chop chop or whatever, just really annoying. like just a little less leverage and I would have been fine
[2016-06-22 18:15:23] Rado : so what does 7.74% DPE means and when will be distributed
[2016-06-22 18:15:27] Rado : in 2 hours?
[2016-06-22 18:15:41] Rado : sorry to hear Moo
[2016-06-22 18:15:43] Rado : :(
[2016-06-22 18:15:45] wurstgelee : 7.74 of all profit get taken to socialise losses
[2016-06-22 18:15:46] Rado : it really sucks
[2016-06-22 18:15:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1350 @ 625.24
[2016-06-22 18:15:48] wurstgelee : and yes, 2h
[2016-06-22 18:16:02] Rado : thanks wurstgelee
[2016-06-22 18:16:22] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: only people with positive profit?
[2016-06-22 18:16:41] QuantFocus : i think recovery to 705 could begin pre-weekend trading
[2016-06-22 18:16:44] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-06-22 18:16:51] wurstgelee : u keep ur losses :)
[2016-06-22 18:17:04] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: and not more, right?
[2016-06-22 18:17:19] wurstgelee : nope, only profits of the last then 8 h in xbtusd
[2016-06-22 18:17:20] Tetsuo : socialized losses should only be taken from the ones who have lost, just like in the real world, kill the poor
[2016-06-22 18:17:28] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: lolz
[2016-06-22 18:17:32] Tetsuo : would be fair
[2016-06-22 18:17:43] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: so u didnt lose i guess ;)
[2016-06-22 18:18:05] Tetsuo : :-)
[2016-06-22 18:18:32] Tetsuo : who am i , jesus? i don´t like to share my bread
[2016-06-22 18:18:37] QuantFocus : 'hi'
[2016-06-22 18:19:15] wurstgelee : bread sharing is ok as long as i get to keep the wine
[2016-06-22 18:19:17] Tetsuo : smoke crack, worship satan, count the money you stole from stubborn bulls, repeat
[2016-06-22 18:19:47] Tetsuo : btw, i just bought 2 bottles of finest prosecco and a fine chardonnay 2014 wine
[2016-06-22 18:20:06] wurstgelee : i prefer red
[2016-06-22 18:20:13] wurstgelee : rioja mostl
[2016-06-22 18:20:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 18:20:19] wurstgelee : y
[2016-06-22 18:20:24] jung1 : so bitcoin is officially dead now?
[2016-06-22 18:20:30] wurstgelee : not yet
[2016-06-22 18:20:37] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i like the rioja ver much
[2016-06-22 18:20:52] wurstgelee : especially the tempranillos
[2016-06-22 18:21:24] wurstgelee : and rum. good shit.
[2016-06-22 18:21:44] QuantFocus : wurstgelee: las rochas is nice
[2016-06-22 18:21:45] Tetsuo : but tthe last 2 months i have been nostly drinking cabernet syrah, just to have help getting down the dry booze
[2016-06-22 18:22:03] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: effective drinking ;)
[2016-06-22 18:22:26] wurstgelee : try rum. i can fully recommend ron zacapa, systeme solera 23
[2016-06-22 18:22:35] wurstgelee : no need for extra drinks to get it down
[2016-06-22 18:22:38] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-06-22 18:22:59] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: i have been down the road with every booze you can imagine, however i always stayed from rum, don´t know why, never even bought a single bottle in my life
[2016-06-22 18:23:08] Tetsuo : which one would you recommend
[2016-06-22 18:23:13] Tetsuo : i drink only pure, so no mixed shit
[2016-06-22 18:23:14] wurstgelee : *sistema
[2016-06-22 18:23:26] wurstgelee : 20:22 - wurstgelee: try rum. i can fully recommend ron zacapa, systeme solera 23
[2016-06-22 18:23:29] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: :)
[2016-06-22 18:23:41] Tetsuo : thanks, i will try tomorrow
[2016-06-22 18:23:45] wurstgelee : and its spelled *sistema
[2016-06-22 18:24:01] wurstgelee : ~ 50 EUR
[2016-06-22 18:24:07] wurstgelee : not cheap but great
[2016-06-22 18:24:35] wurstgelee : awesome price/quality ratio
[2016-06-22 18:25:09] wurstgelee : also great for pure drinking
[2016-06-22 18:25:16] Tetsuo : yeah, problem is most of the times i empty a bottle in 36 hours, even if it´s 100$ whiskey. just tastes too good
[2016-06-22 18:25:16] wurstgelee : no need for ice. room temperature is good
[2016-06-22 18:25:17] Tetsuo : lel
[2016-06-22 18:25:20] Tetsuo : fuck ice
[2016-06-22 18:25:25] wurstgelee : even better
[2016-06-22 18:25:49] Tetsuo : i want one now! could one of those amazo dronmes bring one to me, like now
[2016-06-22 18:26:24] Tetsuo : can i pay with DOGE?
[2016-06-22 18:26:31] wurstgelee : prime takes one day
[2016-06-22 18:26:38] wurstgelee : :|
[2016-06-22 18:27:05] wurstgelee : or u need a good liquor store
[2016-06-22 18:27:33] Tetsuo : i hate real world interactions
[2016-06-22 18:27:39] wurstgelee : prime it is then
[2016-06-22 18:27:42] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-06-22 18:27:44] Tetsuo : hell yeah
[2016-06-22 18:27:49] hey : dump done?
[2016-06-22 18:28:00] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-06-22 18:28:07] wurstgelee : wouldnt count on it yet tho
[2016-06-22 18:28:41] Rado : it needs to at least test $600
[2016-06-22 18:28:47] Rado : $580 will be great entry
[2016-06-22 18:28:54] Rado : might never go there though
[2016-06-22 18:28:56] wurstgelee : problem is everybody waits for 580
[2016-06-22 18:28:58] Rado : hard to say
[2016-06-22 18:29:01] wurstgelee : so it prob wont come
[2016-06-22 18:29:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 18:29:04] Rado : yes
[2016-06-22 18:29:08] Rado : agrred on that
[2016-06-22 18:29:11] Rado : agreed
[2016-06-22 18:29:18] Rado : or it will blow trough it :-)
[2016-06-22 18:29:28] wurstgelee : that is an option of course :D
[2016-06-22 18:29:39] Rado : I am not sure if BREXIT will be imactful for BTC or not
[2016-06-22 18:30:09] Tetsuo : Rado: britain will probably stay in the EU, however BTC will rally, mega bull trap anyway
[2016-06-22 18:30:22] Tetsuo : and if brexit happens BTC will do the same
[2016-06-22 18:30:32] wurstgelee : ha. ;)
[2016-06-22 18:30:40] Rado : if BTC rally it will not be because they stayed
[2016-06-22 18:31:02] Rado : we shall see
[2016-06-22 18:31:08] Rado : interesting times for sure
[2016-06-22 18:31:18] Rado : calling a bottom ever min is not good
[2016-06-22 18:31:28] Rado : it will take days for BTC to bottom out
[2016-06-22 18:31:36] Tetsuo : Rado: i agree on that one
[2016-06-22 18:31:39] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-06-22 18:31:40] Tetsuo : no need to fomo now
[2016-06-22 18:31:52] wurstgelee : thats why its so funny when rapidtrades calls bottom 5 mins after a new low
[2016-06-22 18:32:03] Rado : lol
[2016-06-22 18:32:16] Rado : he wants to get on the next $200 increase
[2016-06-22 18:32:25] wurstgelee : i witnessed at least twice within an hour =)
[2016-06-22 18:33:07] Tetsuo : LTC/BTC really gut flushed down today, again, lulz
[2016-06-22 18:42:01] Tetsuo : probably goin so low, that everyone will get wiped ot, like 2-2,50$ LTC/USD
[2016-06-22 18:46:04] rapidtrades : welcome to trading Chinacoin
[2016-06-22 18:46:13] jung1 : IM suprised that tlc is still alive
[2016-06-22 18:46:16] rapidtrades : they mine it, they own the exchanges, they dump it
[2016-06-22 18:46:52] rapidtrades : if they don't want it to go up, guess what, you can't buy
[2016-06-22 18:47:58] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: follow the trend
[2016-06-22 18:48:12] Rado : I don't see a use of LTC
[2016-06-22 18:48:16] jung1 : follow your dreams
[2016-06-22 18:48:17] arbitrage001 : profit comes easier that way
[2016-06-22 18:48:22] rapidtrades : shut up u couldn't even keep an arb open
[2016-06-22 18:48:26] Rado : it was the first alt coin that's all
[2016-06-22 18:48:38] Rado : many better coins for different purposes now than LTC
[2016-06-22 18:49:55] Tetsuo : "the only reason why LTC is still big is CHINA, the only reason it will get pumped up more than any other altcoin is CHINA. the reason why ETH will never get big CHINA" Donald Trum 2016
[2016-06-22 18:50:00] rapidtrades : sry about that outburst...not ur fault :)
[2016-06-22 18:52:03] rapidtrades : its so frustrating the way this rally was killed...with paused with okc shenanigans then finished off with incompetence by finex
[2016-06-22 18:53:15] wurstgelee : no reason not to trade the bounce tho
[2016-06-22 18:55:10] Tetsuo : we probably need to go down to 500$ to wipe out those finex margin longs
[2016-06-22 18:55:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 18:55:31] Tetsuo : after that a rallye to a new ATh can start
[2016-06-22 18:56:01] Rune : 1,000,000 contract shot on btc never seen that before
[2016-06-22 18:56:16] wurstgelee : there were 1.7m a few days ago
[2016-06-22 18:56:19] wurstgelee : liquidation
[2016-06-22 18:56:36] justinlooking : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-22 18:57:02] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: you mean a few hours ago
[2016-06-22 18:57:03] wurstgelee : thanks =)
[2016-06-22 18:57:16] wurstgelee : see link above
[2016-06-22 18:57:31] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: there were 1.7 m a few hours ago?
[2016-06-22 18:57:38] wurstgelee : then we had that at least twice
[2016-06-22 18:57:39] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 18:58:17] Rado : DPE going down
[2016-06-22 19:00:31] tscha : justinlooking: you saw iceland - austria? :)
[2016-06-22 19:00:39] tscha : oh god we are so bad...
[2016-06-22 19:01:01] justinlooking : was watching hun v por
[2016-06-22 19:01:04] justinlooking : saw the last goal
[2016-06-22 19:01:15] zanza : WTF
[2016-06-22 19:01:21] zanza : is that a 1 mil liquidation ?
[2016-06-22 19:01:29] rapidtrades : no
[2016-06-22 19:01:34] Rune : ha
[2016-06-22 19:01:37] rapidtrades : its cool don't worry about it
[2016-06-22 19:01:43] Rune : 1 mil liq would be crazy
[2016-06-22 19:01:56] zanza : look at the orderbook
[2016-06-22 19:02:05] zanza : 1043218 at 633
[2016-06-22 19:02:07] tscha : justinlooking: I am glad we dropped out
[2016-06-22 19:02:12] tscha : this team doesn't deserve it
[2016-06-22 19:03:10] tscha : Alaba was probably the worst player in the whole tournament, last game against Portugal he had I think 55% successful passes
[2016-06-22 19:03:12] zanza : do you guys see that order?
[2016-06-22 19:03:15] zanza : `633.00 1043218 1089668`
[2016-06-22 19:03:19] Tetsuo : knock knock
[2016-06-22 19:03:24] zanza : aww they took out code?
[2016-06-22 19:03:26] tscha : players in the 5th league have better stats
[2016-06-22 19:03:38] wurstgelee : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-22 19:03:41] wurstgelee : it is a 1m liquidation
[2016-06-22 19:03:56] wurstgelee : and its whats causing the DPE
[2016-06-22 19:03:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 19:04:14] wurstgelee : move away from it -> higher dpe
[2016-06-22 19:04:23] zanza : ` "symbol":"XBTUSD","side":"Sell","price":632.9,"leavesQty":1019709} `
[2016-06-22 19:04:28] zanza : WTF lol
[2016-06-22 19:04:29] Tetsuo : so´if we drop to 500$ how high will DPE get?
[2016-06-22 19:04:37] zanza : close to 9000 Tetsuo
[2016-06-22 19:04:43] wurstgelee : dunno, someone do the math please
[2016-06-22 19:04:44] Tetsuo : fuck yeah
[2016-06-22 19:04:44] rapidtrades : 99%?
[2016-06-22 19:04:48] wurstgelee : but prob over 9000
[2016-06-22 19:04:51] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-06-22 19:04:52] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-06-22 19:04:58] zanza : :)
[2016-06-22 19:05:19] rapidtrades : at some [pont the sellers should stop selling i think
[2016-06-22 19:05:21] Rune : think bitcoin can fall below the 4000cny support?
[2016-06-22 19:05:26] zanza : was there a REKT announce for that big liquidation?
[2016-06-22 19:05:37] wurstgelee : Rune: sure no, can yes
[2016-06-22 19:05:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 19:06:01] Rune : I think if bitcoin drops past 4000 cny we are going to 460 USD what do you think?
[2016-06-22 19:06:11] wurstgelee : uh. no
[2016-06-22 19:06:24] Rune : the long term chat is gonna look like a reverse head and shoulders
[2016-06-22 19:06:32] Rune : is what I was thinking
[2016-06-22 19:07:17] Rado : did you guys see this bid on Bitfinex at 630
[2016-06-22 19:07:19] wurstgelee : maybe. personally i just dont think it will go that low
[2016-06-22 19:07:20] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 19:07:23] Johnster : Any pine script junkies in here?
[2016-06-22 19:07:42] wurstgelee : Rado: nope?
[2016-06-22 19:07:52] wurstgelee : oh
[2016-06-22 19:07:54] wurstgelee : 1k
[2016-06-22 19:08:06] Rado : 1121 BTC
[2016-06-22 19:08:07] Mike : Bitcoin is dead.
[2016-06-22 19:08:09] Mike : RIP
[2016-06-22 19:08:14] Rado : lol Mike
[2016-06-22 19:08:14] rapidtrades : frustrating as well man but that's the game we playing
[2016-06-22 19:08:30] rapidtrades : moveon.org
[2016-06-22 19:08:31] Mike : Liquidated 3 times on long positions over the past 2 days LOL
[2016-06-22 19:08:38] Tedy : When you got liqudatet dont that mean you are selling ?
[2016-06-22 19:08:46] Rado : Mike you were late to go long
[2016-06-22 19:08:53] Mike : Ikr...
[2016-06-22 19:08:55] Mike : Oh well
[2016-06-22 19:08:57] Rado : the last 3 days the trend was down so you should have been short
[2016-06-22 19:09:15] Mike : I was trying to call the bottom.. Learnt never to try to call the bottom.
[2016-06-22 19:09:21] Rado : actually the trend is still down
[2016-06-22 19:09:30] wurstgelee : Tedy: the opposite of ur position. so if u were long, liquidation is a sell order
[2016-06-22 19:09:31] rapidtrades : in retrospect that's easy to say :)
[2016-06-22 19:09:34] Rado : I make the same mistake too often
[2016-06-22 19:09:40] Rado : try to catch a top or a bottom
[2016-06-22 19:09:47] Rado : so much easier to trade with the trend
[2016-06-22 19:09:52] Tedy : wurstgelee: Where can I find this order then ?
[2016-06-22 19:09:56] Mike : Yeah, oh well. I'm a small timer, I've only lost like 300$
[2016-06-22 19:09:57] rapidtrades : the trend is still up ffs
[2016-06-22 19:10:08] wurstgelee : Tedy: nowhere if its already executed
[2016-06-22 19:10:09] Rado : rapidtrades: up only on daily
[2016-06-22 19:10:16] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-06-22 19:10:18] Rado : not on any other smaller timeframe
[2016-06-22 19:10:26] Rune : we dropped 3 steps
[2016-06-22 19:10:34] Tedy : Rado: But it is not possible to look what price it was executed on ?
[2016-06-22 19:10:50] rapidtrades : we are close to ending on daily too tho....one more day of red will prolly kill it
[2016-06-22 19:11:25] Rado : rapidtrades: sometimes it dips under and then reverses violently
[2016-06-22 19:11:40] wurstgelee : Tedy: u should have received an email with that info
[2016-06-22 19:11:47] Rado : so it could dump to $560 and then go up fast to $680
[2016-06-22 19:11:47] rapidtrades : we'll see @Rado
[2016-06-22 19:11:59] Rado : yeah a lot of possibilities
[2016-06-22 19:12:26] wurstgelee : after all its buttcorn
[2016-06-22 19:12:35] wurstgelee : almost anything possible
[2016-06-22 19:12:42] Mike : Thats the problem, so many possibilities!
[2016-06-22 19:13:08] wurstgelee : more variables than other markets, more risk, bigger gains, greater losses
[2016-06-22 19:13:11] wurstgelee : #bitcoin
[2016-06-22 19:13:18] Mike : ^^ (Y)
[2016-06-22 19:13:35] wurstgelee : more fun as well tho
[2016-06-22 19:13:35] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 19:24:03] asdfman : 1,2k wall in almost one bite
[2016-06-22 19:27:20] Tetsuo : no onme will save the sorry asses of the stubborn marginers on finex, they might have to shut down their bucket shop, if china goes below 500$, after that rallye 2013 style :-D
[2016-06-22 19:27:41] Tetsuo : it´s not like there haven´t been enough warning signs
[2016-06-22 19:29:07] aethlios : big day tomorrow.
[2016-06-22 19:29:15] arbitrage001 : Tetsuo: finex is bucket shop?
[2016-06-22 19:30:22] aethlios : finex is just fine, only from margin fees 15% of daily interest that they receive they make millions.
[2016-06-22 19:30:45] Tetsuo : finex is run by crooks usin crooks methods, for a few years now, probably broke already. china will take their main competitor out if they have the chance too
[2016-06-22 19:31:22] arbitrage001 : what crook method?
[2016-06-22 19:31:32] arbitrage001 : i have some btc on finex, should i be worry?
[2016-06-22 19:31:38] Tetsuo : withdraw em
[2016-06-22 19:31:44] Tetsuo : vetter safe than sorry
[2016-06-22 19:31:45] aethlios : Tetsuo: everyone says the same for all exchanges. If we listen to you people we shouldn't trade btc at all.
[2016-06-22 19:32:01] Tetsuo : aethlios: never saifd anything about stamp or btc-e
[2016-06-22 19:34:53] aethlios : Tetsuo: Not you but others do, they say about okcoin futures, in tradingview they say bitmex is broke, bitstamp was hacked, polo 2 years ago was hacked. bitfinex most stable exchange from the start and never hacked.
[2016-06-22 19:35:15] Tetsuo : theri database and code is so fucked up, i tried to give them hints about their fucked up code, that they can fix it, i demanded only 50BTC for it. a week later someone else exploited it , and it flashcrashed to 100$, i still have the emails, arrogance and stupidty is a b ad
[2016-06-22 19:35:36] Tetsuo : mixture
[2016-06-22 19:36:09] Tetsuo : they didn´t care when i told them that they had a serious problem
[2016-06-22 19:37:04] Tetsuo : aethlios: Gox also never admitted that they hd been hacked, they just continued with BTCs made out of air, until too many ppl tried to withdraw
[2016-06-22 19:37:18] aethlios : Tetsuo: I say to everybody. Don't trust any exchange, so I use 4 most high volume exchanges (Bitmex, bitfinex, polo, okcoin futures) so I keep trading and don't risk more than 30% of my funds. Also If profitable I withdraw 50% of gains out of crypto each month. That's the way to minimize counterparty risk and keep trading.
[2016-06-22 19:37:38] Tetsuo : aethlios: sounds reasonable to me!
[2016-06-22 19:38:04] mrp1nk : Tetsuo: nice call btw.
[2016-06-22 19:38:28] Tetsuo : mrp1nk: thx
[2016-06-22 19:39:18] rapidtrades : $200 premium on sept ppl...its only $25 on okc
[2016-06-22 19:39:21] rapidtrades : do the f math
[2016-06-22 19:39:46] aethlios : Tetsuo: Gox stopped making fiat withdrawals many months before stop making btc withdrawals. Any reasonable trader would have left, also their 200 spread was a red flat (you see the cheese but no the trap) so people bought 800 btc to stamp to sell 1000 to gox.
[2016-06-22 19:39:52] mrp1nk : are you ok rapid?
[2016-06-22 19:39:57] rapidtrades : this shit was trading at $50 premium before the rally
[2016-06-22 19:42:54] aethlios : rapidtrades: go long sept okoin and short swap to receive interest in new uptrend and also gain the spread, move btc to cover margin, easily can leverage 2x
[2016-06-22 19:43:52] rapidtrades : stopped trading at okc week ago
[2016-06-22 19:44:39] rapidtrades : no point trading at fake prices
[2016-06-22 19:45:09] mrp1nk : Tetsuo: doesn't sound good with finex. i'm also reading that they stopped responding to support ticket because of non working stops....
[2016-06-22 19:46:02] rapidtrades : are withdrawals still going ok
[2016-06-22 19:46:38] mrp1nk : on finex?
[2016-06-22 19:47:24] mrp1nk : dunno tbh, i'm not trading there
[2016-06-22 19:47:41] BitMEX_Sam : It's sad to see how many technical problems exchanges keep having
[2016-06-22 19:48:01] BitMEX_Sam : With the money that some of them are making, they could easily afford to hire the right people
[2016-06-22 19:48:30] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: bitmex could do better than finex if do it right
[2016-06-22 19:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : We're a different type of market though, we don't have any plans to offer spot trading in the near future
[2016-06-22 19:49:27] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4pc74a/cant_withdrawal_from_bitfinex/
[2016-06-22 19:51:44] MarketQ : I cant beleive people are buying up ETH after such a big hack of their star project. ETH may not have been hacked but if ETH contracts can be this buggy and remain unknown till its too late it creates an enormous barrier to entry for any contract
[2016-06-22 19:52:07] rapidtrades : it's always been a manipulated market
[2016-06-22 19:52:12] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : When do we get the DPE.. every 8 hours or 24 hours after rebalance?
[2016-06-22 19:52:22] MarketQ : Now I have very little faith in contracts and dont have the money or time to review each ones code
[2016-06-22 19:52:24] rapidtrades : they did an IPO. this is how thy're spending ur monies
[2016-06-22 19:53:17] MarketQ : I dont have ETH I just beleive so strongly in Bitcoin. I trade on Bitmex so that I can keep the vast majority of my funds in cold storage. you dig.
[2016-06-22 19:53:29] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-06-22 19:53:48] rapidtrades : not a bad idea although that exposes u to DPE more
[2016-06-22 19:54:35] MarketQ : DPE?
[2016-06-22 19:54:43] rapidtrades : clawback
[2016-06-22 19:54:51] MarketQ : ah
[2016-06-22 19:55:11] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Does anyone know? When do we get the DPE.. every 8 hours or 24 hours after rebalance?
[2016-06-22 19:55:15] MarketQ : sure I just feel good cold storage is best.
[2016-06-22 19:55:21] rapidtrades : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: 24h
[2016-06-22 19:55:36] MarketQ : i cant really get goxxed this way
[2016-06-22 19:55:46] Tetsuo : ]therealbricky 21hours ago Had a withdrawal go missing a few hours ago (showing as 'Completed' on btfx, but not on the blockchain). Just me?
[2016-06-22 19:56:10] MarketQ : Do you think something is up at BFX
[2016-06-22 19:56:11] rapidtrades : true but say we crash 50% from here...DPE will be enormous and even a short won't protect u
[2016-06-22 19:56:47] BitMEX_Sam : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: It's 24h
[2016-06-22 19:56:51] rapidtrades : is smth up? sure they're idiots that's what's up
[2016-06-22 19:56:59] BitMEX_Sam : See the "Rebalance" time at the top right. 16hrs from now.
[2016-06-22 19:57:06] MarketQ : Like honestly no good reason for this dump and its pretty low so my spidy senses is telling me here is a good place to buy
[2016-06-22 19:58:11] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : BitMEX_Sam: thanks!
[2016-06-22 19:59:32] rapidtrades : MarketQ: major confidence hit with okc halting buying at the top of the rally and finex going under
[2016-06-22 19:59:48] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : And if DPE is 4%, you will loose 4% of your profits? Or will BitMex first take BTC from the system profit / pool?
[2016-06-22 20:00:00] rapidtrades : ppl not trusting exchanges and i dont blame em tbh
[2016-06-22 20:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 621.02
[2016-06-22 20:05:14] zanza : pool LOL
[2016-06-22 20:05:59] MarketQ : Why would you trust others with your money ? What has anyone gained from day trading Bitcoin vs the potential insane rise such a solid economic model that Bitcoin could provide, tomorrow, not after some magical Dapps been built. Dont forget the Primary main objective. The primary main objective is to defeat the evil power and the only way to know the evil power is to collect them all. So get to it. [Southpark reference]
[2016-06-22 20:07:14] MarketQ : So keep most of your Bitcoin in Cold storage and use this wonderful site to trade with leverage so you are not exposed to hacks.
[2016-06-22 20:07:57] wurstgelee : we can all read this, right?
[2016-06-22 20:08:00] zanza : why do so many people play bitcoin dice? :)
[2016-06-22 20:08:11] Tetsuo : money, greed, jesus
[2016-06-22 20:08:14] MarketQ : Gambling is a very real problem.
[2016-06-22 20:08:36] zanza : anything over a small amont of levrage is basically gambling
[2016-06-22 20:08:46] MarketQ : Have any of you heard of Pochinko slots. Its a mix of an arcade and a Casino thats very popular in Japan
[2016-06-22 20:08:48] zanza : arguably any leverage is gambling
[2016-06-22 20:09:47] Tetsuo : the abscence of even the slightest notable bounce is a bit worrysome
[2016-06-22 20:09:57] rapidtrades : no shit
[2016-06-22 20:10:06] wurstgelee : yeah
[2016-06-22 20:10:11] MarketQ : Allot of gambling has to do with stimulating the release of Dopamine in the brain. See Dopamine isnt released when something good happens its released in anticipation of something good happening.
[2016-06-22 20:10:18] wurstgelee : well, everybody scared i guess
[2016-06-22 20:10:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 20:10:50] Tetsuo : fomo buyers still holdin, will sell into my 450-520$ bids :_D
[2016-06-22 20:10:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 616.18
[2016-06-22 20:11:17] wurstgelee : so we either get a new low or it bounces off 4k again...
[2016-06-22 20:11:25] wurstgelee : we'll know soon ;)
[2016-06-22 20:12:13] MarketQ : You know its sick due to the low exchange rate between CAD and USD Bitcoin hit 1000 in Canada last week
[2016-06-22 20:12:54] MarketQ : Were any of you there when it was at 1000 USD and CAD and USD were at par. Canada got a taste of the good old days.
[2016-06-22 20:13:29] zanza : 4k coming fast
[2016-06-22 20:13:50] zanza : I think people blew their load early for halvening
[2016-06-22 20:14:07] wurstgelee : i never thought it will pump right through halvening date tbh
[2016-06-22 20:14:25] wurstgelee : there has to be some blood in between to sustain the pump
[2016-06-22 20:14:27] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 20:15:05] zanza : Coinbase and Paypal partnership is big news actually
[2016-06-22 20:15:10] hey : MarketQ: i remember bitcoin trading at par with the gold ounce. gox was siightly above
[2016-06-22 20:15:23] asdfman : zanza: wheres that?
[2016-06-22 20:15:30] hey : it was the peak day, think stamp was att 1160 at gox att 1220. gold was at 1200
[2016-06-22 20:15:36] asdfman : wishfull or actuall?
[2016-06-22 20:15:49] zanza : for 1 weeek? :)
[2016-06-22 20:15:51] aethlios : weak hands, margin longs will get liquidated first from whales and then the new up trend will begin.
[2016-06-22 20:15:55] zanza : http://qz.com/713528/paypal-is-warming-up-to-bitcoin/\
[2016-06-22 20:16:34] rapidtrades : there won't be a new uptrend ppl...f*ck ur delusional
[2016-06-22 20:16:55] wurstgelee : all in long bc he said so
[2016-06-22 20:16:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-22 20:17:22] rapidtrades : still long but won't be by tommorow like i said earlier
[2016-06-22 20:17:39] aethlios : rapidtrades: don't you remember 500 to 300?? same thing 790 to 610 (or 575 to margin call any longs above 600)
[2016-06-22 20:18:13] wurstgelee : aethlios: :) !
[2016-06-22 20:18:18] hey : not many margined longs left to liq out
[2016-06-22 20:18:37] Tetsuo : hey: on finex , sure there are
[2016-06-22 20:18:59] aethlios : hey: many will go short in the bottom from fear and will get liquidated first in the reversal.
[2016-06-22 20:19:04] gustavo7 : phew 2 cents from stop
[2016-06-22 20:19:07] rapidtrades : finex is perpetually long, doesn't mean anything
[2016-06-22 20:19:19] asdfman : zanza: nice
[2016-06-22 20:19:46] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: dude, it never was over 40m in any time of the history even when we were @ over 800$
[2016-06-22 20:20:11] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-22 20:20:17] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Anyone up to date about PayPal accepting Bitcoin in the future?
[2016-06-22 20:20:36] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: why you won't be long by tomorrow?
[2016-06-22 20:20:36] rapidtrades : yeah im up to date
[2016-06-22 20:20:42] rapidtrades : it aint happening