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[2016-06-22 04:47:15] viptrader : rekt
[2016-06-22 04:47:19] viptrader : why not sold here
[2016-06-22 04:47:38] viptrader : search bitcoin in 5 months from now
[2016-06-22 04:47:41] QuantFocus : so eth just traded $20M USD in approximately 2 hours
[2016-06-22 04:47:45] viptrader : u will see scam
[2016-06-22 04:47:47] viptrader : in google
[2016-06-22 04:47:47] QuantFocus : that is absurd
[2016-06-22 04:48:52] ayy_lmao : damn
[2016-06-22 04:49:40] ayy_lmao : viptrader, why didnt u sell your bitcoin then lmao
[2016-06-22 04:50:22] ayy_lmao : the only person crying here is you
[2016-06-22 04:50:44] viptrader : ayy_lmao: you will all cry
[2016-06-22 04:50:57] viptrader : poloniex gonna close his doors
[2016-06-22 04:51:06] viptrader : everyone, everyone will lose
[2016-06-22 04:52:34] ayy_lmao : so scared
[2016-06-22 04:52:50] ayy_lmao : going to sell all my bitcorns
[2016-06-22 04:53:08] ayy_lmao : some dude in the trollbox told me its a scam
[2016-06-22 04:53:49] boolander : wonder what pearls of wisdom rapidtrades would have for young not so viptrader...
[2016-06-22 04:54:08] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-22 04:54:55] QuantFocus : viptrader: if you send me a couple btc, i can double it for you
[2016-06-22 04:55:04] QuantFocus : i'm really good at satoshi dice
[2016-06-22 04:56:21] ayy_lmao : viptrader: http://www.gamblersanonymous.org
[2016-06-22 04:56:42] boolander : ^^
[2016-06-22 04:56:53] QuantFocus : when the fun stops
[2016-06-22 04:57:49] viptrader : goodbye
[2016-06-22 04:57:58] QuantFocus : take care
[2016-06-22 04:57:59] viptrader : never telling anyone again to buy bitcoin
[2016-06-22 04:58:08] viptrader : gonna warn everyone it's a fucking scam
[2016-06-22 04:58:11] ayy_lmao : good luck
[2016-06-22 04:58:22] boolander : only short bitcoin bro
[2016-06-22 04:58:24] ayy_lmao : hope to see you back soon
[2016-06-22 04:58:33] viptrader : never
[2016-06-22 05:01:35] viptrader : so mad right now
[2016-06-22 05:01:44] viptrader : i think i still have 0.2 btc somewhere
[2016-06-22 05:01:50] viptrader : gonna go all in ETH short
[2016-06-22 05:01:57] viptrader : and leave it for 3 months
[2016-06-22 05:01:59] ayy_lmao : why
[2016-06-22 05:02:08] ayy_lmao : just withdraw it and use it to recover
[2016-06-22 05:02:09] viptrader : cause im rekt
[2016-06-22 05:03:02] boolander : sounds greedy
[2016-06-22 05:04:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 422 @ 654.20
[2016-06-22 05:05:04] QuantFocus : how is the xbt funding rate possibly .3%??
[2016-06-22 05:05:39] QuantFocus : we've essentially been trading at discount to mark.
[2016-06-22 05:05:53] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: .XBTUSDPI8H was 0.4528% and the change was capped at 0.75% of IM-MM
[2016-06-22 05:06:11] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, 75%
[2016-06-22 05:06:30] QuantFocus : I'm not entirely sure what that means
[2016-06-22 05:06:40] QuantFocus : still new here
[2016-06-22 05:06:53] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-06-22 05:07:16] BitMEX_Wally : We were trading at a premium to spot between 20:00 UTC and 04:00 UTC
[2016-06-22 05:07:19] BitMEX_Wally : So the funding rate is positive
[2016-06-22 05:08:53] BitMEX_Wally : The swap is still at a premium to spot right now
[2016-06-22 05:09:27] QuantFocus : very modestly though
[2016-06-22 05:10:27] QuantFocus : mark = 657.57... and what is funding based on again?
[2016-06-22 05:10:44] QuantFocus : i know it's trailing, but if we look at current price
[2016-06-22 05:11:09] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate is fixed for 8 hours
[2016-06-22 05:11:19] BitMEX_Wally : Based on the previous 8 hours
[2016-06-22 05:16:17] rapidtrades : eth can not be srs
[2016-06-22 05:17:02] hey : money talks
[2016-06-22 05:17:14] rapidtrades : hey: hey
[2016-06-22 05:17:24] hey : hey
[2016-06-22 05:17:38] rapidtrades : hey: hi
[2016-06-22 05:17:52] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: can you link me the funding rate calculation details please? I can't seem to find it here
[2016-06-22 05:18:05] QuantFocus : hey: hay
[2016-06-22 05:19:01] rapidtrades : paying this premium is such bullshit cos w never traded above finex all day
[2016-06-22 05:19:01] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding-rate
[2016-06-22 05:20:29] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, but i agree with @rapidtrades , as i don't feel we traded at a premium today
[2016-06-22 05:21:07] rapidtrades : i don' blame bitmex..its just a BS situation
[2016-06-22 05:21:24] BitMEX_Wally : Bitfinex will be re-joining the Kaiko index at 12:00 UTC
[2016-06-22 05:21:46] BitMEX_Wally : Mathematically XBTUSD has traded at a premium .XBT
[2016-06-22 05:22:47] rapidtrades : that's a $2 hit per bitcoin...
[2016-06-22 05:24:10] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: i need to read through this funding page, but i'm not saying you guys are misleading us
[2016-06-22 05:24:19] QuantFocus : just that, psychologically, it doesn't feel like we traded at a premium
[2016-06-22 05:24:25] BTCDJS : Called it!
[2016-06-22 05:24:30] rapidtrades : finex f*cking us over yet again
[2016-06-22 05:24:37] QuantFocus : BTCDJS: you really did
[2016-06-22 05:24:54] rapidtrades : he did not...step two is a bounce to $700+
[2016-06-22 05:25:03] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: and i'm sure that premium is weighted based on time traded at a premium, correct?
[2016-06-22 05:25:59] BTCDJS : Don't take this away from me.
[2016-06-22 05:25:59] rapidtrades : cmon how low can we go
[2016-06-22 05:26:29] BTCDJS : Dont you dare take this away from sucker
[2016-06-22 05:28:20] rapidtrades : we have to stabillize at some point right? $100 fall is a lot for btc
[2016-06-22 05:28:30] Rado : 580, but will not be straight down
[2016-06-22 05:28:51] rapidtrades : that was only 13% fall at those levels tho
[2016-06-22 05:29:11] QuantFocus : _only_
[2016-06-22 05:29:34] rapidtrades : actually 19.3% cos move was $150 from top to bottom
[2016-06-22 05:29:59] BTCDJS : I think this fall may be sufficient
[2016-06-22 05:30:00] rapidtrades : rally looks be on last legs here
[2016-06-22 05:30:39] Rado : Look at larger time frame
[2016-06-22 05:30:48] rapidtrades : if bitcoin can't even turn the 1h chat bullish, things look dire
[2016-06-22 05:30:56] Rado : It will take time to resume the uptrend
[2016-06-22 05:31:35] rapidtrades : we're already into a month long rally tho
[2016-06-22 05:31:44] QuantFocus : I think it actually looks good on the weekly
[2016-06-22 05:31:55] QuantFocus : last week was strongly negative, and resets tomorrow
[2016-06-22 05:31:59] rapidtrades : historically thats a loooong ass time for bitcoin to fight negative rate
[2016-06-22 05:32:40] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: is the 'Impact Bid/Ask Price' defined somewhere?
[2016-06-22 05:32:52] QuantFocus : oops, right below that
[2016-06-22 05:32:54] QuantFocus : sorry
[2016-06-22 05:33:50] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so you're saying to be really secure over the next bull run, we need to go lower again first?
[2016-06-22 05:34:33] rapidtrades : why do u see a next bull run? halvening is 2 weeks away
[2016-06-22 05:35:41] rapidtrades : I expect several months of suppressed prices after this
[2016-06-22 05:35:59] BTCDJS : So this is it? Price is ranging in 650 area?
[2016-06-22 05:36:26] rapidtrades : i will continue to trade based on charts but that's usually how halvings work....bull followed by bear
[2016-06-22 05:37:34] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: i primarily agree, but think we'll have a second bull before the year is over
[2016-06-22 05:38:31] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: why
[2016-06-22 05:39:05] QuantFocus : fundamentals and maturity
[2016-06-22 05:39:23] QuantFocus : bitcoin is more established than ever, despite the competition
[2016-06-22 05:39:34] QuantFocus : and the uncertainty around foundation and block size, etc
[2016-06-22 05:39:50] Rado : ETH impresive bounce
[2016-06-22 05:39:55] rapidtrades : yeah maybe the eth death in several weeks will give it a pump again
[2016-06-22 05:40:48] QuantFocus : mostly though, i feel like international adoption is genuinely picking up. for whatever motives, the buy side seems to be increasing
[2016-06-22 05:41:20] Rado : Inflation is the biggest driver
[2016-06-22 05:41:34] Rado : Fiat is becoming worthless
[2016-06-22 05:42:10] Rado : 500 sq ft studio sold here for $650k
[2016-06-22 05:43:07] rapidtrades : bulgaria?
[2016-06-22 05:44:11] QuantFocus : lol
[2016-06-22 05:44:29] QuantFocus : either NYC or UK
[2016-06-22 05:44:39] QuantFocus : ...or SF
[2016-06-22 05:44:54] rapidtrades : he said here and he's from there afaik
[2016-06-22 05:45:18] rapidtrades : maybe he's on vacation :)
[2016-06-22 05:45:27] Rado : Vancouver
[2016-06-22 05:45:55] QuantFocus : oh yea, well that's more of that China money for you
[2016-06-22 05:46:06] Rado : Yep
[2016-06-22 05:47:35] QuantFocus : Anyhow, too much wine for me
[2016-06-22 05:47:49] QuantFocus : need to get out of here before i do something irresponsible. cheers guys
[2016-06-22 05:48:18] rapidtrades : good plan :)
[2016-06-22 05:56:47] Rado : See ya Q
[2016-06-22 05:56:52] BTCDJS : 717 minimum here we come
[2016-06-22 05:57:04] BTCDJS : QuantFocus: later dude
[2016-06-22 05:57:19] Rado : 717?
[2016-06-22 05:57:26] Rado : Not so fast
[2016-06-22 05:57:46] rapidtrades : Rado: dude don't take this away from him
[2016-06-22 05:59:16] BTCDJS : Yeah radio. What type of person are you anyway?
[2016-06-22 05:59:23] billz : Rado: inverted h&s pattern, 4700 cny is possible i think
[2016-06-22 05:59:50] BTCDJS : The dream shattering kind. That's what
[2016-06-22 06:00:22] Rado : Sorry :-)
[2016-06-22 06:01:22] Rado : My bot is still long eth, but i shorted 0.0224
[2016-06-22 06:02:42] rapidtrades : anyone plans to stay up for referendum results
[2016-06-22 06:03:05] Rado : When is that?
[2016-06-22 06:03:16] rapidtrades : tommorow evening
[2016-06-22 06:03:26] rapidtrades : early friday to be exact
[2016-06-22 06:04:16] Rado : I will be up I think
[2016-06-22 06:04:45] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-06-22 06:04:56] BTCDJS : Apology accepted
[2016-06-22 06:06:12] rapidtrades : Japanese Mint Employee Stole 15Kg Gold Bar "To Cover FX Trading Losses"
[2016-06-22 06:06:27] Rado : Lol
[2016-06-22 06:06:29] zanza : gold and silver got hit pretty hard
[2016-06-22 06:06:40] Rado : Japanese trade a lot
[2016-06-22 06:09:12] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: any chance the pricing spreadsheet will get updated?
[2016-06-22 06:09:40] rapidtrades : sept should get more volume once june expires
[2016-06-22 06:10:23] Rado : Is j8 still trading?
[2016-06-22 06:10:41] rapidtrades : dunno seen him around tho
[2016-06-22 06:10:50] BTCDJS : Ha ha just remembered this video I saw. Chinese CEO spanking his employees for under performing at work.
[2016-06-22 06:11:05] rapidtrades : dispensing wisdom and shit
[2016-06-22 06:11:56] BTCDJS : He lined them up in a row on a stage and smacked them with a plank 4 times each
[2016-06-22 06:12:34] rapidtrades : watching it rught now
[2016-06-22 06:12:42] BTCDJS : thatll sort em out
[2016-06-22 06:13:39] rapidtrades : he did it in public too, that's whats so crazy about it
[2016-06-22 06:14:15] rapidtrades : if he left the women out ppl would laugh at the video
[2016-06-22 06:14:34] BTCDJS : If he tried to hit me I would knock him the f*ck out
[2016-06-22 06:15:20] rapidtrades : banks are tied with the goverment over there, that won't go well for u
[2016-06-22 06:15:33] rapidtrades : prolly why he got away with it
[2016-06-22 06:16:02] BTCDJS : gotta go to work now. Later...
[2016-06-22 06:16:16] rapidtrades : bye
[2016-06-22 06:16:27] Rado : Later
[2016-06-22 06:26:57] Rado : I should trade my own ideas
[2016-06-22 06:27:04] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/mnJpcZln-One-possible-scenario-for-BTC/
[2016-06-22 06:27:11] Rado : Click play
[2016-06-22 06:27:33] Rado : Timing and pric
[2016-06-22 06:27:40] Rado : Price
[2016-06-22 06:29:38] hey : ... size
[2016-06-22 06:36:40] Skuffone : if you hold a position for 5 days and the swap cost was .3% does that mean you pay .9%?
[2016-06-22 06:36:53] Skuffone : sorry 1.5%
[2016-06-22 06:36:56] Skuffone : ?
[2016-06-22 06:37:22] hey : on btc is paid or received every 8 hours
[2016-06-22 06:37:30] hey : IT is
[2016-06-22 06:37:53] hey : so yes .3% for 5 days is 1.5
[2016-06-22 06:38:01] Skuffone : that is farked
[2016-06-22 06:38:07] hey : .3% / 24 hours that is
[2016-06-22 06:38:34] hey : well, it cuts both ways. you can receive it as well and bitmex takes no cut
[2016-06-22 06:39:22] Skuffone : So i have to keep the same amount as my margin on the exchange?
[2016-06-22 06:40:06] hey : at least
[2016-06-22 06:40:26] rapidtrades : hey: no it's actually 4.5% if the rate stays
[2016-06-22 06:40:38] hey : yeah if it's like this true
[2016-06-22 06:40:41] rapidtrades : it's per 8h interval
[2016-06-22 06:41:03] hey : yeah wasnt clear on that
[2016-06-22 06:41:18] Skuffone : ok here is a question - if i want to trade a leveraged long position in BTC and get paid the win in BTC how do i do it?
[2016-06-22 06:41:47] hey : do you want to risk a limited amount or everything on your account?
[2016-06-22 06:42:16] hey : any wins/losses are in btc at bitmex
[2016-06-22 06:42:33] Skuffone : I can risk the whole account I'll just set it up like that with my max risk - yeah but i want a long term posiiton
[2016-06-22 06:43:26] hey : size your margin so it covers whatever advierse price movement you are willing to eat. once the margin is lost your position is gone.
[2016-06-22 06:43:46] hey : in other words, choose your position size carefully
[2016-06-22 06:43:54] Skuffone : yep but the swap costs are not acceptable
[2016-06-22 06:44:26] hey : im also new here, but i believe they are normally less
[2016-06-22 06:45:06] Skuffone : still i'm thinking about a 6month trade
[2016-06-22 06:45:07] hey : Skuffone: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-06-22 06:47:16] Skuffone : yeah but in my trade my margin is going to be 25%
[2016-06-22 06:52:13] Skuffone : Hey
[2016-06-22 06:52:15] Skuffone : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-06-22 06:52:24] Skuffone : Today, longs will pay 0.3069%
[2016-06-22 06:52:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 181 @ 0.02328
[2016-06-22 06:55:17] hey : in 6 hours they will pay that yes, they it will change
[2016-06-22 07:03:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.02352 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-22 07:21:44] gustavo7 : hi, i'm 1x short (hedged) XBTUSD. if i close my position, when will i be able to withdraw everything in my account? daily?
[2016-06-22 07:26:43] elmorte : Withdrawals are in 5.5 hrs, rebalance is in 4.5 hrs so you'll probably be able to withdraw everything at 13UTC
[2016-06-22 07:27:29] elmorte : Submit withdrawal request within an hour of rebalance
[2016-06-22 07:27:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 190 @ 0.02296
[2016-06-22 07:28:16] elmorte : Someone bought the peak?
[2016-06-22 07:34:44] elmorte : I'm totally puzzled by ETH and DAO
[2016-06-22 07:35:12] NukeLaloosh : elmorte: did you buy in?
[2016-06-22 07:39:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.02273
[2016-06-22 07:41:31] boolander : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p7mhc/update_on_the_white_hat_attack/
[2016-06-22 07:41:42] boolander : bad hacks vs good hacks
[2016-06-22 07:49:46] NukeLaloosh : good article. better to let the hackers fight it out instead of violating blockchain immutability. fight fire with fire
[2016-06-22 07:52:27] boolander : yeah, not sure i'd be rushing out to buy into a hack off though. especially on a 40% up day
[2016-06-22 07:56:15] NukeLaloosh : true. there are 1153M tokens per 7.32M ETH, so that should be a price of .0066 eth per dao. DAOETH priced at a 11% premium here
[2016-06-22 07:56:22] NukeLaloosh : to short here that is
[2016-06-22 08:01:13] xzsd : Morning guys
[2016-06-22 08:26:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.02229
[2016-06-22 08:40:49] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: sold it all 2 days ago...scalping the way to the bottom.
[2016-06-22 08:42:24] elmorte : I actually bought 60k DAO at 096 on top of my existing holding....sold at 105 after reading up on the issues within Ethereum
[2016-06-22 08:43:06] elmorte : It's gone up 60% since
[2016-06-22 08:51:43] xzsd : MARK PRICE dont getting price from finex?
[2016-06-22 08:53:21] tscha : not now, but will be included in 3 hours
[2016-06-22 08:53:28] tscha : check your mail
[2016-06-22 08:55:13] ayy_lmao : why is mark price so low on xbt.usd
[2016-06-22 08:55:25] ayy_lmao : is stamp and okcoin still 50%?
[2016-06-22 08:55:44] BitMEX_Arthur : ayy_lmao: Yes
[2016-06-22 08:55:50] BitMEX_Arthur : We haven't changed it since the announcement yesterday
[2016-06-22 08:57:10] xzsd : hmm
[2016-06-22 08:59:10] elmorte : Shouldn't Kaiko be more responsive to these changes? This is crypto, not FX
[2016-06-22 09:00:34] rapidtrades : what's that supposed to mean
[2016-06-22 09:01:12] elmorte : I read the bitmex index there...weight is calculated one a month
[2016-06-22 09:01:32] rapidtrades : so
[2016-06-22 09:01:48] elmorte : It means that if finex goes down, kaiko shouldn't wait 12 hrs to update the weights
[2016-06-22 09:02:24] rapidtrades : maybe u should mind ur own bisuness huh elmorte
[2016-06-22 09:02:52] wurstgelee : if no further outages of finex happen, mark price should go up more or less $10 at 12 utc
[2016-06-22 09:03:24] rapidtrades : oh yeah?
[2016-06-22 09:03:30] elmorte : rapidtrades: I don't have a bisuness pal
[2016-06-22 09:04:03] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: maybe ou should read ur emails
[2016-06-22 09:04:16] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: maybe u should learn MATHS
[2016-06-22 09:04:18] rapidtrades : u tool
[2016-06-22 09:04:42] wurstgelee : u seem salty. rekt again?
[2016-06-22 09:04:53] rapidtrades : finex is 50% so it will go up by $5 only plus the premium of $2 = 7
[2016-06-22 09:05:12] ayy_lmao : shots fired
[2016-06-22 09:05:13] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: i was never rekt, homie
[2016-06-22 09:05:24] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: *close to rekt
[2016-06-22 09:05:26] wurstgelee : better?
[2016-06-22 09:05:30] elmorte : ayy_lmao: all blanks
[2016-06-22 09:05:37] boolander : pew pew
[2016-06-22 09:05:41] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-06-22 09:05:41] rapidtrades : elmorte: yeah cos my wallet malfunctioned
[2016-06-22 09:05:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: your bullish call malfunctioned, thats y
[2016-06-22 09:06:27] rapidtrades : how did it malfunction? im up over $200 per bitcoin
[2016-06-22 09:07:35] wurstgelee : of which u would have way more
[2016-06-22 09:08:37] rapidtrades : what
[2016-06-22 09:10:16] rapidtrades : no actually if I listened to u and bailed on every weakness wouldn't have way more because I would've been out at $560, then $600 etc...
[2016-06-22 09:12:00] wurstgelee : lolz no. i left camp bulltard just 2 days ago (for now)
[2016-06-22 09:12:34] rapidtrades : u got lucky
[2016-06-22 09:13:54] rapidtrades : 2 days ago when u made the call we were trading $30-40 from the highs...if u did that all throughout this rally you would be out 3-4 times already
[2016-06-22 09:15:34] wurstgelee : but i didnt
[2016-06-22 09:16:37] wurstgelee : also i dont go "out" (=to fiat)
[2016-06-22 09:16:40] wurstgelee : i long or short
[2016-06-22 09:19:08] xzsd : im out just waiting to fish
[2016-06-22 09:34:04] haxmb : that funding rate :O
[2016-06-22 09:34:20] haxmb : 0.3% wtf
[2016-06-22 09:36:09] haxmb : oh well, jump in mark will be worth it
[2016-06-22 09:38:40] BitMEX_Wally : Just a reminder that on Friday 12:00 UTC all our swaps will be moving to an 8 hour funding period, and daily rebalance
[2016-06-22 09:39:19] BitMEX_Wally : And all swaps will have an 8 hour premium index which will be used to calculate the funding rate
[2016-06-22 09:40:32] BitMEX_Wally : If the interest rate from Bitfinex/Poloniex is within 0.05% of the premium index then interest rate is used as the funding rate.
[2016-06-22 09:41:00] BitMEX_Wally : Otherwise the funding rate is the interest rate capped/floored to be within 0.05% of the premium index
[2016-06-22 09:42:12] BitMEX_Wally : So if the premium index is -0.01% and the interest rate is 0.03% then the funding rate is 0.03%
[2016-06-22 09:42:50] BitMEX_Wally : If the premium index is -0.01% and the interest rate is 0.05% then the funding rate is capped at 0.04%
[2016-06-22 09:43:02] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: it's interesting how it's going to work with 1% spreads
[2016-06-22 09:43:43] BitMEX_Wally : If the interest rate is 0.10% and the premium index is 1% then the funding rate is 0.95%
[2016-06-22 09:43:57] BitMEX_Wally : So it gets slightly skewed down
[2016-06-22 09:45:39] micmix : I guess if the middle of the book tracks the mark price, spread doesn't really matter, it will get averaged out
[2016-06-22 09:45:57] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, the goal is for the mark price to be within the bid/offer
[2016-06-22 09:46:16] BitMEX_Wally : And for the bid/offer spread to be tight
[2016-06-22 09:46:20] BitMEX_Wally : And for liquidity to be amazing
[2016-06-22 09:46:28] BitMEX_Wally : And for Bitcoin to go to $2000
[2016-06-22 09:46:36] BitMEX_Wally : But one step at a time :)
[2016-06-22 09:46:53] hey : :)
[2016-06-22 09:47:01] boolander : thanks Wally
[2016-06-22 09:47:20] micmix : yep, and for Ben's salary to get to 10btc per hour :wink:
[2016-06-22 09:47:59] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: scratch all the early steps please, just do the $2000 btc step
[2016-06-22 09:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: Working on it
[2016-06-22 09:55:39] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-22 09:55:52] ayy_lmao : need a buy only market here
[2016-06-22 09:56:10] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-06-22 09:56:58] BitMEX_Wally : China has one of those
[2016-06-22 09:57:08] BitMEX_Wally : For stocks
[2016-06-22 09:57:37] BitMEX_Wally : Selling is not allowed, only buying
[2016-06-22 09:57:41] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-06-22 09:57:51] BitMEX_Wally : Which makes me wonder... who are they buying off?
[2016-06-22 09:58:11] hey : the issuer obviously
[2016-06-22 09:58:38] ayy_lmao : 2 spooky 4 m3
[2016-06-22 09:58:44] ayy_lmao : me
[2016-06-22 09:59:41] BitMEX_Wally : hey: That only happens during the IPO
[2016-06-22 09:59:57] BitMEX_Wally : http://on.ft.com/1MRYd4D
[2016-06-22 10:06:48] jesperf : ugh, paywalled
[2016-06-22 10:10:01] micmix : XBTJPY pump
[2016-06-22 10:16:46] rapidtrades : +1 for buys only here
[2016-06-22 10:19:20] janetyellen : how many you want me to buy?
[2016-06-22 10:20:06] janetyellen : my milkshake brings all the bitcoins to the bar.
[2016-06-22 10:20:18] rapidtrades : i could care less for an extra 1 contract
[2016-06-22 10:24:18] arbitrage001 : hello
[2016-06-22 10:24:26] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hi
[2016-06-22 10:24:29] arbitrage001 : any news on when finex price will be included
[2016-06-22 10:24:36] arbitrage001 : on the premium index
[2016-06-22 10:24:44] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hey
[2016-06-22 10:24:50] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: sup
[2016-06-22 10:25:09] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: hello
[2016-06-22 10:25:43] arbitrage001 : inaccurate index makes the price here hard to trade
[2016-06-22 10:38:01] BitMEX_Arthur : arbitrage001: we sent an email out a few hours ago. Bitfinex will be added back at 12 UTC today
[2016-06-22 10:38:15] BitMEX_Arthur : assuming they don't halt trading again
[2016-06-22 10:42:19] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Arthur: ok thank you
[2016-06-22 10:45:04] rapidtrades : this is bs....finex has been trading 10 dollars higher all day
[2016-06-22 10:45:16] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes
[2016-06-22 10:45:30] rapidtrades : god damit
[2016-06-22 10:45:31] arbitrage001 : buy here and sell on finex for 1.3% profit
[2016-06-22 10:45:52] arbitrage001 : assuming the premium becomes discount later
[2016-06-22 10:46:20] rapidtrades : i already did that few days ago at much lwoer premium
[2016-06-22 10:46:48] rapidtrades : so can't do shit now but get buttraped by fees
[2016-06-22 10:46:55] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-06-22 10:47:00] arbitrage001 : i have net 0 position
[2016-06-22 10:47:10] arbitrage001 : just in case finex goes down again
[2016-06-22 10:47:19] arbitrage001 : or premium here goes out of whack
[2016-06-22 10:47:29] RoftheN : How to long bitcoin?
[2016-06-22 10:48:01] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: buy bitcoin == long bitcoin
[2016-06-22 10:48:12] arbitrage001 : positive amount
[2016-06-22 10:48:37] boolander : exposure to bitcoin price fluctuations or an actual bitcoin?
[2016-06-22 10:48:54] rapidtrades : no actual bitcoins here
[2016-06-22 10:49:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 7 @ 0.02211
[2016-06-22 10:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 5 @ 0.02165
[2016-06-22 10:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 15 @ 0.02150
[2016-06-22 10:50:18] RoftheN : So if you long bitcoins here, no actual bitcoins will be bought?
[2016-06-22 10:50:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 125 @ 0.02130
[2016-06-22 10:50:42] rapidtrades : RoftheN: no
[2016-06-22 10:51:17] arbitrage001 : you can withdraw the profit. so it is partially "real"
[2016-06-22 10:51:20] boolander : this is a derivatives exchange where products offered "derive" their prices from the underlying
[2016-06-22 10:59:22] RoftheN : So if everyone here longs and BTC goes up, who pays the profit?
[2016-06-22 10:59:52] arbitrage001 : RoftheN: see the order book
[2016-06-22 10:59:56] arbitrage001 : not everyone is bull
[2016-06-22 11:00:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01990
[2016-06-22 11:00:14] RoftheN : I know not everyone is bull. But what IF that was the case
[2016-06-22 11:00:21] arbitrage001 : if everyone bet one direction, there will be no trading
[2016-06-22 11:00:33] arbitrage001 : no transaction i mean
[2016-06-22 11:00:38] RoftheN : Oh okay
[2016-06-22 11:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 152 @ 0.02056
[2016-06-22 11:04:40] Skitrx : DAO whitehat child just got hacked
[2016-06-22 11:06:18] RoftheN : no way
[2016-06-22 11:06:40] boolander : what a sh1t show
[2016-06-22 11:08:06] Skitrx : the donated ether into both splits and is now attacking both
[2016-06-22 11:08:32] Skitrx : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p9z93/it_seems_attacker_just_targeted_the_whitehatdaos/
[2016-06-22 11:08:52] boolander : hack-off it is
[2016-06-22 11:11:34] rapidtrades : lol what a joke ether has become
[2016-06-22 11:12:00] rapidtrades : is that fucking coinbase nigger worried that he favorited the shitcoin?
[2016-06-22 11:12:26] rapidtrades : doubtful such ppl never second-guess themselves
[2016-06-22 11:13:44] rapidtrades : they're so desperate to keep price up they're buying shitloads
[2016-06-22 11:14:09] boolander : “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
[2016-06-22 11:14:49] rapidtrades : bush was a wise man
[2016-06-22 11:17:09] NukeLaloosh : lol they removed the funding info from daohub.org
[2016-06-22 11:17:11] boolander : he was definitely misunderestimated at times
[2016-06-22 11:18:55] jesperf : no, i think he just misunderstood most things that happened around him
[2016-06-22 11:22:41] boolander : strategery
[2016-06-22 11:24:57] laisee : A man who was vastly misunderestimated ...
[2016-06-22 11:25:26] wurstgelee : nope. idiocracy
[2016-06-22 11:25:31] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-22 11:25:41] justinlooking : great film
[2016-06-22 11:26:00] laisee : its got .... Electrolytes
[2016-06-22 11:27:32] boolander : i like muh-nee
[2016-06-22 11:52:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 659.18
[2016-06-22 11:52:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 660.01
[2016-06-22 12:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 159 @ 0.02083
[2016-06-22 12:04:49] Defcronyke : well those bitfinex outages and subsequent market crash ate through all my profits from the previous several days :( I guess it could have been worse though
[2016-06-22 12:06:14] Defcronyke : that last outage was really bad timing for me
[2016-06-22 12:06:25] markimarki : for everyone
[2016-06-22 12:10:05] Avalanche : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi, the export to csv (trade history) is not working, just empty sheet
[2016-06-22 12:12:40] haxmb : hey, i dont see the weights of bitfinex updated on kaiko
[2016-06-22 12:12:43] haxmb : its still 0?
[2016-06-22 12:26:00] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: No it is not, Bitfinex is 50%, the Kaiko graph on their site is stale, if you subscribe to the REST or Websocket API the correct weights are there
[2016-06-22 12:26:16] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: We are asking them to update the graph
[2016-06-22 12:28:36] Johnster : Damned... the chit needs to be on Tradingview.
[2016-06-22 12:33:07] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: cheers
[2016-06-22 12:34:57] macios15 : c'mon bitcoin do sth funny
[2016-06-22 12:45:24] Skitrx : the markets gone full retard
[2016-06-22 12:47:30] boolander : never go full rih-tard
[2016-06-22 12:49:34] rapidtrades : bots are f nuts
[2016-06-22 12:49:45] rapidtrades : yday they followed finex and jacked up the fees
[2016-06-22 12:49:55] rapidtrades : cunts are now trading $10 below
[2016-06-22 12:49:57] rapidtrades : cunts
[2016-06-22 12:57:38] danilo : Good Morning,
[2016-06-22 12:57:55] danilo : I realized a retreat, but so far is with the pending status. Could someone tell me qto long does it take to be removed from the BTCs?
[2016-06-22 12:58:31] j8 : confirm it by e-mail
[2016-06-22 12:58:47] danilo : ok
[2016-06-22 12:59:05] danilo : I will check
[2016-06-22 13:00:12] BitMEX_Wally : danilo: Click on the link saying "Please confirm the transaction by going to: "
[2016-06-22 13:07:01] rapidtrades : can we put the selling on hold until tomorrow ktnx
[2016-06-22 13:13:48] BTCDJS : Bears are winning
[2016-06-22 13:20:29] rapidtrades : loool TSLA down 10% pre market
[2016-06-22 13:20:42] rapidtrades : HOW'S THAT DEAL WORKING OUT MUSK
[2016-06-22 13:21:16] boolander : non-gaaaaaaaap infinity
[2016-06-22 13:21:18] j8 : i heard cars will be obsolete with the hyperloop anyway
[2016-06-22 13:21:39] rapidtrades : right j8 i forgot about that
[2016-06-22 13:21:46] gustavo7 : tsla cheap? gimme
[2016-06-22 13:21:54] rapidtrades : go buy
[2016-06-22 13:22:08] boolander : numbers on a screen
[2016-06-22 13:22:15] rapidtrades : 197.52
[2016-06-22 13:22:39] boolander : -btc/+tlsa
[2016-06-22 13:23:38] rapidtrades : it takes 3 teslas to buy 1 btc now
[2016-06-22 13:23:54] danilo : Thank you for helping me. lacked the confirmation email. now it worked. thank you!
[2016-06-22 13:24:21] rapidtrades : https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-just-kicked-shareholders-222904240.html
[2016-06-22 13:25:09] xzsd : what is going on?
[2016-06-22 13:25:18] boolander : thank you gubmint subsidies
[2016-06-22 13:25:44] rapidtrades : Aside from the Musk family and an obvious commitment to environmental sustainability, the most important thing that these two companies have in common is cash burn. They do it a lot.
[2016-06-22 13:27:41] boolander : i believe it's called mal-investment in some circles
[2016-06-22 13:28:39] rapidtrades : from the comments: SURPRISE ! We're not a car company any more. Today, we're an energy company. Tomorrow, however, we'll be a comic book company. And next week, I think we'll manufacture death ray guns...
[2016-06-22 13:29:54] boolander : hobby level = 11
[2016-06-22 13:30:45] rapidtrades : u know once this company goes to 0 everyone will be like ''Oh of course it went bankrupt, it never made any money and spent like crazy'
[2016-06-22 13:31:06] rapidtrades : and they'll act like it was always meant to happen
[2016-06-22 13:31:26] boolander : but, it "felt" good that they were trying to do the "right" thing.
[2016-06-22 13:34:57] rapidtrades : HOLD THE LINE GOD DAMIT
[2016-06-22 13:35:48] Tetsuo : Die BTC die! , sell this fukker to the ground
[2016-06-22 13:36:08] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: truce until midnight?
[2016-06-22 13:36:43] Tetsuo : okay
[2016-06-22 13:37:02] rapidtrades : okc is gonna wish they never f*cked with the premium at the top of the rally
[2016-06-22 13:37:33] rapidtrades : once this rally dies so will the volume
[2016-06-22 13:38:07] boolander : when is midnight?
[2016-06-22 13:39:04] rapidtrades : idk in 9 hrs
[2016-06-22 13:39:24] rapidtrades : or 11 if we go by utc
[2016-06-22 13:39:36] boolander : utc is dead to me
[2016-06-22 13:39:50] rapidtrades : yeah i hate utc too
[2016-06-22 13:46:56] rapidtrades : shouldn't eth crash agian with the new hack? or it doesn't matter anymore
[2016-06-22 13:47:18] rapidtrades : we need a shitcoin expert in here
[2016-06-22 13:47:26] boolander : where is jung?
[2016-06-22 13:47:35] macios15 : dead
[2016-06-22 13:47:36] rapidtrades : jung1: hey
[2016-06-22 13:47:55] rapidtrades : macios15: wtf why would u say that
[2016-06-22 13:49:27] Rado : LSK is pumping
[2016-06-22 13:49:53] Tetsuo : ETH hacker got counter hacked and then counter hacked the counter hackers..
[2016-06-22 13:50:01] Rado : ETH is in a holding pattern until a decision is made
[2016-06-22 13:50:41] Rado : hacker seems mor knowable than the developers on DAO code
[2016-06-22 13:51:03] boolander : jung is still alive, right?
[2016-06-22 13:51:29] Tetsuo : it´s 3.pm and i just opened a fresh bottle of Jameson, drinkin it right out of the bottle, does this mean i have a problem?
[2016-06-22 13:52:04] Rado : No tetsuo
[2016-06-22 13:52:08] Tetsuo : thought so
[2016-06-22 13:52:10] rapidtrades : not if u buy some bitcoins
[2016-06-22 13:52:21] Rado : that is the normal behavior
[2016-06-22 13:52:25] boolander : you are in the right
[2016-06-22 13:52:34] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i would empty the whole bottle in once if i´d buy any BTC right now
[2016-06-22 13:53:09] boolander : bragging
[2016-06-22 13:53:13] Tetsuo : 5-10% lower and i probably step in
[2016-06-22 13:53:38] Rado : 640 will be retested
[2016-06-22 13:54:08] Rado : posibly new lows as well
[2016-06-22 13:54:27] Rado : i would love to buy dec contracts
[2016-06-22 13:57:25] Tetsuo : http://de.tinypic.com/r/33trtht/9
[2016-06-22 13:57:38] Tetsuo : lol, the captcha for this pic was " i need a bigger boat"
[2016-06-22 13:58:53] Rado : Cigarettes too?
[2016-06-22 13:59:10] Tetsuo : sure 30 pcs a day :-)
[2016-06-22 13:59:12] boolander : wine glass = straight up gangsta
[2016-06-22 14:02:42] elmorte : Tetsuo: pass the Jameson
[2016-06-22 14:03:27] elmorte : Is that a wine or cognac glass?
[2016-06-22 14:03:34] Tetsuo : here you go
[2016-06-22 14:03:42] Tetsuo : wine, that was from yesterday night
[2016-06-22 14:04:01] elmorte : Cheers. Yeah, I hate washing dishes too
[2016-06-22 14:04:17] Tetsuo : need to stay healty, so 10 bottles of wine per week because of the vitamines
[2016-06-22 14:04:59] boolander : if i'm in profit too, i just break glasses and buy new ones. makes cents.
[2016-06-22 14:05:08] Tetsuo : boolander: +1
[2016-06-22 14:05:11] jesperf : you should probably double that dosage judging by the cigarettes
[2016-06-22 14:05:56] elmorte : 30'cigarettes in EU? Isn't that like a entry salary's worth?
[2016-06-22 14:06:01] Tetsuo : jesperf: 500ml of booze per day and a bottle of wine just keeps me on the line right now!
[2016-06-22 14:07:27] jesperf : what could possibly go wrong!
[2016-06-22 14:08:03] Tetsuo : last week i tried to detox and only drank a bottle of valdo a day : http://www.joshlikeswine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/valdo.jpg
[2016-06-22 14:08:09] elmorte : He could run out
[2016-06-22 14:08:10] Tetsuo : it´s helathy, and tastes almos as good as champagen
[2016-06-22 14:08:22] RoftheN : if you drink wine for vitamins you could better just put vitamin pills in Vodka
[2016-06-22 14:08:33] elmorte : Mmm, Prosecco
[2016-06-22 14:08:53] jesperf : yeah fizzy tablets in vodka is great
[2016-06-22 14:08:55] Tetsuo : RoftheN: i´m normally puttin lime in my wodka
[2016-06-22 14:09:13] Tetsuo : makin the finest caipiroska
[2016-06-22 14:09:25] Tetsuo : enough vitamines for a day
[2016-06-22 14:10:26] boolander : vice club
[2016-06-22 14:13:04] Tetsuo : but i stopped with the caipirsoka, cause i´have diabetes, too much sugar
[2016-06-22 14:14:42] boolander : in murica they call it corn syrup. or commonly known as erryday diet
[2016-06-22 14:27:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 70524.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-22 14:42:24] markimarki : paprikáskrumpli anyone?
[2016-06-22 14:42:27] markimarki : anyone from hungary?
[2016-06-22 14:43:44] boolander : rapid gets angry if we talk about soccer
[2016-06-22 14:45:44] laisee : rapidtrades: is a brit?
[2016-06-22 14:49:41] boolander : (secretly) ronaldo is awesome, but a bit of a ponce.
[2016-06-22 14:58:11] rapidtrades : now at $10 gap with finex....get buying
[2016-06-22 14:59:20] Rado : longs still pay
[2016-06-22 14:59:31] Rado : doesn't make much sense
[2016-06-22 15:00:17] rapidtrades : doesn't pay if u can't do math
[2016-06-22 15:06:05] sam : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu638L-iVt8
[2016-06-22 15:06:34] rapidtrades : sam STOP
[2016-06-22 15:07:15] rapidtrades : still a $6-7 gap....get it while u can
[2016-06-22 15:08:34] sam : fuckin' hilarious
[2016-06-22 15:09:10] rapidtrades : would've been funnier if they super-imposed vitaly's pic ib hitler
[2016-06-22 15:09:15] rapidtrades : on*
[2016-06-22 15:09:53] Rado : lol