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[2016-06-21 20:31:51] hey : or is that maybe some setting?
[2016-06-21 20:32:04] arbitrage001 : hey: i see full screen button
[2016-06-21 20:32:05] arbitrage001 : nothing else
[2016-06-21 20:32:16] splash : how do I turn my BTC into USD here on bitmex? is it possible?
[2016-06-21 20:32:47] arbitrage001 : splash: swap contract is synthetic USD
[2016-06-21 20:32:49] justinlooking : no splash
[2016-06-21 20:32:55] arbitrage001 : 1 contract = 1 usd
[2016-06-21 20:32:57] QuantFocus : arbitrage001: hmm
[2016-06-21 20:33:49] splash : the issue im having is that the value of my account goes down when btc loose value, so it's difficult for me to know how much i have left
[2016-06-21 20:34:38] arbitrage001 : splash: do some homework before you trade
[2016-06-21 20:35:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.01866
[2016-06-21 20:36:51] splash : arbitrage001: you're text on the screen
[2016-06-21 20:36:54] aethlios : btc above gold soon....
[2016-06-21 20:39:59] Moo : So is ETH still the future or... I though ETH was supposed to be dead.
[2016-06-21 20:40:12] Moo : thought*
[2016-06-21 20:42:52] hey : the more i read about ETH the more i like it, no ideas with re the price though
[2016-06-21 20:43:28] hey : but for sure it is not trivial to use correctly and should not be approached naively. just like money i guess.
[2016-06-21 20:46:16] aethlios : eth needs 150-180 mill usd per year to hold dollar price steady.
[2016-06-21 20:47:09] justinlooking : where is that from aethlios?
[2016-06-21 20:47:57] yerb : Tradingview DARK THEME for all you night owls https://userstyles.org/styles/118025/tradingview-com-dark-theme
[2016-06-21 20:49:07] justinlooking : xcalib -invert -alter ;)
[2016-06-21 20:59:31] aethlios : justinlooking: mining 15 mil. coins per year
[2016-06-21 21:01:32] rapidtrades : hey: hey
[2016-06-21 21:03:08] kogroken : yerb: Neat
[2016-06-21 21:03:23] hey : rapidtrades: yes
[2016-06-21 21:03:29] kogroken : I wonder if there is a dark theme for okc
[2016-06-21 21:04:57] yerb : kogroken: OKC has fullscreen black chart trading option, so no need
[2016-06-21 21:09:33] rapidtrades : is okc still forcing that $65 premium?
[2016-06-21 21:10:50] rapidtrades : guess no need to at $35
[2016-06-21 21:11:09] rapidtrades : f*cking cunts
[2016-06-21 21:11:45] QuantFocus : salty
[2016-06-21 21:12:07] hey : peanuts
[2016-06-21 21:20:39] Bacon futures trader : If your position hits your liq price
[2016-06-21 21:21:15] Bacon futures trader : does your loss exceed your margin in a normal situation?
[2016-06-21 21:21:48] QuantFocus : Depends on the size of your position relative to liquidity, would be my guess
[2016-06-21 21:22:00] QuantFocus : large traders, yes, smaller traders, no
[2016-06-21 21:23:19] BitMEX_Sam : Your loss is your assigned margin if you are liquidated
[2016-06-21 21:23:51] hey : BitMEX_Sam: any way too see the volume of a bar numerically (on the chart)
[2016-06-21 21:24:15] hey : ?
[2016-06-21 21:24:17] BitMEX_Sam : hey: It's a bit tricky. As far as I know, the best way is to scroll the chart so the bar touches the right axis
[2016-06-21 21:24:43] hey : ok thanks
[2016-06-21 21:25:04] hey : would you consider adding volume to the numeric OHLC display on the chart
[2016-06-21 21:26:04] hey : doh, it is there. found it now. :)
[2016-06-21 21:26:52] justinlooking : he:, a compromise is to right click a volume bar, and unmerge down
[2016-06-21 21:29:15] hey : justinlooking: one can expand the numeric chart overlay and get what looks like numeric volume per bar wheree the pointer hovers
[2016-06-21 22:06:53] tscha : justinlooking: whats ur % estimate on Brexit?
[2016-06-21 22:07:33] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: do you use this as bullish indicators mate? http://www.tradingview.com/x/4AA9P7A9
[2016-06-21 22:10:37] justinlooking : tscha: finger in air 15-20$
[2016-06-21 22:10:40] justinlooking : *%
[2016-06-21 22:13:41] jesperf : how do you guys deal with closing a long way too early?
[2016-06-21 22:18:32] jesperf : hindsight is 20/20 but damn.. oh well. I've liquidated my whole account before when I stubbornly believed I was right and everyone else was wrong. I guess taking some profits never is a bad idea
[2016-06-21 22:18:48] BTCDJS : jesperf: as long as you're in profit. Its entering a long too early you got to worry about
[2016-06-21 22:21:30] jesperf : too late is not so nice either :-)
[2016-06-21 22:21:43] Moo : you could sell half your long at whatever price you think it's going to, and set the rest up to close as a trail stop
[2016-06-21 22:24:53] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: i don't use divergence right now
[2016-06-21 22:25:26] rapidtrades : when i experimented with it, it showed some promise
[2016-06-21 22:25:39] rapidtrades : problem is too discretionary
[2016-06-21 22:26:19] rapidtrades : jesperf: u could try trailing stops instead of take profits
[2016-06-21 22:27:05] jesperf : yeah, i guess
[2016-06-21 22:27:23] jesperf : I think I'm mostly talking about the psychological part of missing out on profits
[2016-06-21 22:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 500 @ 68870.0
[2016-06-21 22:28:26] rapidtrades : jesperf: nothing can be done there
[2016-06-21 22:28:38] jesperf : just hookers and blow then
[2016-06-21 22:28:50] rapidtrades : if we keep going down i'll lose over 50% of my profits...its just part of the game
[2016-06-21 22:29:49] rapidtrades : u rage here in chat and move on
[2016-06-21 22:33:03] Moo : bitmex might want to print a retraction to the statement that the DAO attacker posted an open letter. That letter was not signed properly, and so is probably a hoax.
[2016-06-21 22:33:22] j8 : they won't
[2016-06-21 22:33:30] rapidtrades : bitmex doesn't do retractions
[2016-06-21 22:34:09] BitMEX_Sam : You're correct, it wasn't signed properly
[2016-06-21 22:34:14] BitMEX_Sam : I'll edit the post.
[2016-06-21 22:34:30] rapidtrades : damit
[2016-06-21 22:34:44] BTCDJS : its because you said that
[2016-06-21 22:35:02] rapidtrades : i know...f Sam man....
[2016-06-21 22:35:18] j8 : we said exactly what they needed to hear to do the right thing.
[2016-06-21 22:35:22] BitMEX_Sam : :D :gun:
[2016-06-21 22:35:57] rapidtrades : etheriums are a bunch of children, they'll never do the right thing
[2016-06-21 22:36:05] BTCDJS : Sam won't put an extra 0.3 XBT in my account.
[2016-06-21 22:36:13] BTCDJS : he never does
[2016-06-21 22:36:18] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-21 22:36:38] luckynuke : ohoh eth !
[2016-06-21 22:36:45] Moo : it only works if you're trying to goad him into doing the right thing. putting btc into your account would be a moral hazzard.
[2016-06-21 22:36:47] BTCDJS : waiting....
[2016-06-21 22:36:51] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: Okay transferring
[2016-06-21 22:37:20] BTCDJS : received thanks
[2016-06-21 22:37:23] BitMEX_Sam : *not transferring, sorry
[2016-06-21 22:37:27] kogroken : O_o
[2016-06-21 22:38:08] rapidtrades : guys let's fork, BTCDJS has a mortgage payment
[2016-06-21 22:38:30] BTCDJS : im ok with that
[2016-06-21 22:38:47] BTCDJS : Ill get the camera
[2016-06-21 22:39:32] BTCDJS : but no spooning afterwards
[2016-06-21 22:39:33] rapidtrades : i'm gonna email bitcoin developers asking for a new laaptop
[2016-06-21 22:40:04] rapidtrades : maybe we should do a major f8ck up like DAO, then we can ask for a bailout
[2016-06-21 22:40:24] rapidtrades : COLLECTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GUYS PLZ SEND TO MY ADDRESS
[2016-06-21 22:40:34] BTCDJS : I think you have to be good friends with the gaffer
[2016-06-21 22:41:20] luckynuke : BitMEX_Sam: haha these trolls ...
[2016-06-21 22:42:11] rapidtrades : sept still on the high side
[2016-06-21 22:42:12] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: any word on when bitfinex will be back in the index? the email said when trading resumes
[2016-06-21 22:42:52] rapidtrades : $200 premium compared to only $40 for okc
[2016-06-21 22:43:08] Moo : short one, long the other?
[2016-06-21 22:43:24] rapidtrades : since sleger left noone has the balls to sort the quantos
[2016-06-21 22:43:41] rapidtrades : short
[2016-06-21 22:45:18] Rado : I shirted June :)
[2016-06-21 22:45:30] Rado : shorted too
[2016-06-21 22:45:41] Rado : lol
[2016-06-21 22:45:53] rapidtrades : there's no premium left there
[2016-06-21 22:46:44] Rado : Not now, but it was $35
[2016-06-21 22:47:15] Rado : when is Dec quanto coming?
[2016-06-21 22:47:25] rapidtrades : friday
[2016-06-21 22:47:31] Rado : cool
[2016-06-21 22:47:36] rapidtrades : well we don't know
[2016-06-21 22:47:51] Rado : we also need 2-3 weekly
[2016-06-21 22:48:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: have u made a decision about the quantos?
[2016-06-21 22:48:13] Rado : BitMEX needs more users for that I guess
[2016-06-21 22:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.01872 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-21 22:49:35] Rado : Bots 286
[2016-06-21 22:49:46] Rado : is this API connections?
[2016-06-21 22:49:58] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-06-21 22:53:42] Rado : iPhone doesn't have TAB, so annoying
[2016-06-21 22:53:50] Defcronyke : fml
[2016-06-21 22:56:04] Defcronyke : I can't take another giant dump from this bullshit
[2016-06-21 22:59:51] markimarki : bearshit
[2016-06-21 23:00:28] Moo : trade smaller amounts until you are more confident
[2016-06-21 23:00:40] QuantFocus : ehhh...looking like a short term bottom is in
[2016-06-21 23:01:06] BitMEX_Sam : j8: See the announcements bar
[2016-06-21 23:01:26] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: I will confirm with the team re: the quantos
[2016-06-21 23:01:55] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: I haven't got the mark price trigger box ticked but the trailing stop wants to trigger on mark price anyway
[2016-06-21 23:02:05] j8 : i see
[2016-06-21 23:02:14] BitMEX_Sam : Was it ticked when you submitted it BTCDJS?
[2016-06-21 23:02:25] BTCDJS : Nope
[2016-06-21 23:02:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 9 @ 0.01918
[2016-06-21 23:02:42] BTCDJS : and I've also ticked it and untucked it twice to check
[2016-06-21 23:02:52] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I am not seeing that here
[2016-06-21 23:03:00] BitMEX_Sam : You're looking at the "Triggering Price" in the list?
[2016-06-21 23:03:33] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: Ive just ticked it and un ticked it again.
[2016-06-21 23:04:21] luckynuke : eth excitend
[2016-06-21 23:05:29] BTCDJS : I've chosen trailing stop. And bellow that the "Mark Price Trigger" box is not ticked. Though when I place the stop. The confirmation box says it will trigger on the offset value of the mark price
[2016-06-21 23:05:40] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: I don't see any actual submission
[2016-06-21 23:05:56] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: I didn't submit because of that
[2016-06-21 23:05:56] BitMEX_Sam : Ahhhh!
[2016-06-21 23:06:03] BitMEX_Sam : That's an issue with the confirmation dialog.
[2016-06-21 23:06:12] BitMEX_Sam : The order will submit correctly, but there is a bug in that dialog. I'll fix asap
[2016-06-21 23:06:21] BTCDJS : thanks
[2016-06-21 23:08:06] luckynuke : cheap eth
[2016-06-21 23:18:10] BTCDJS : well well well
[2016-06-21 23:18:18] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, what's that about?
[2016-06-21 23:18:28] BTCDJS : what?
[2016-06-21 23:22:27] BTCDJS : I'm going to bed. Heres my prediction while I'm away. 680. retrace back to 651. Then more up to at least 717. Goodnight
[2016-06-21 23:23:09] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: bye :)
[2016-06-21 23:24:05] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: If you refresh, trailing stop price output on the confirmation dialog is fixed
[2016-06-21 23:25:10] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: spotty dog. Cheers mate
[2016-06-21 23:25:18] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-06-21 23:26:50] luckynuke : BitMEX_Sam: where do you get the eth market price ?
[2016-06-21 23:27:04] BitMEX_Sam : luckynuke: You can see on the top line of the contract details when you have it selected
[2016-06-21 23:27:06] BitMEX_Sam : Poloniex
[2016-06-21 23:27:19] luckynuke : BitMEX_Sam: nice thanks
[2016-06-21 23:27:31] BitMEX_Sam : :+1::bitmex::+1:
[2016-06-21 23:27:37] luckynuke : no
[2016-06-21 23:27:38] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: add finex
[2016-06-21 23:27:56] BitMEX_Sam : We're reluctant to increase our finex exposure at this time
[2016-06-21 23:28:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 669.03
[2016-06-21 23:28:09] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-06-21 23:28:22] BitMEX_Sam : Poloniex may have connection issues 24/7 but they're generally slow, not down
[2016-06-21 23:28:35] rapidtrades : can't blame u tbh
[2016-06-21 23:28:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3900 @ 670.10
[2016-06-21 23:28:49] markimarki : china wkaes up
[2016-06-21 23:31:18] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: will you switch LTC index back to Bitfinex at 12 UTC?
[2016-06-21 23:31:27] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, that is the plan given no further issues
[2016-06-21 23:31:40] BitMEX_Sam : Ah apologies I didn't realize you wrote LTC
[2016-06-21 23:31:43] BitMEX_Sam : Let me check on that
[2016-06-21 23:32:06] rapidtrades : so im 12 hrs?
[2016-06-21 23:32:19] BitMEX_Sam : Roughly yes
[2016-06-21 23:37:33] Skuffone : why have charts gone from the site?
[2016-06-21 23:38:52] rapidtrades : i wish
[2016-06-21 23:40:34] BitMEX_Sam : Okay yes - plan is to also move LTC back to BFX at 12:00 if it continues to behave
[2016-06-21 23:41:19] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks Sam
[2016-06-21 23:41:54] BitMEX_Sam : I've amended the announcement to add LTCXBT.
[2016-06-21 23:42:18] Johnster : Guys: could I have 2 open positions in the same direction on a single product, and choose on what position I would like to add margin or not?
[2016-06-21 23:42:36] rapidtrades : no
[2016-06-21 23:42:40] BitMEX_Sam : Johnster: No, all positions are netted - you only have a single position in any contract
[2016-06-21 23:43:29] Johnster : Whould it be a big deal to add this to the system?
[2016-06-21 23:43:41] rapidtrades : x2
[2016-06-21 23:43:55] Johnster : In order to be able to run different strategies at the same time...
[2016-06-21 23:44:18] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it would be, this is a fundamental part of how the system operates
[2016-06-21 23:44:19] BitMEX_Arthur : Johnster: What strategy does that feature allow?
[2016-06-21 23:45:15] rapidtrades : trading 2 different strategies for example
[2016-06-21 23:45:34] micmix : you can always open another account
[2016-06-21 23:45:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 175 @ 0.01938
[2016-06-21 23:45:51] rapidtrades : yeah i guess opening a second account would do
[2016-06-21 23:46:08] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: What do you mean, we get this question a lot so I'm really curious to know what strategy this allows
[2016-06-21 23:46:11] Johnster : Arthur, can I PM you?
[2016-06-21 23:46:20] BitMEX_Arthur : arthur@bitmex.com
[2016-06-21 23:47:11] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: for example, one short-term one long-term strategy...or systems using different indicators etc
[2016-06-21 23:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.01954
[2016-06-21 23:47:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2038 @ 0.01958
[2016-06-21 23:47:49] Moo : lol eth
[2016-06-21 23:47:57] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2016-06-21 23:48:04] micmix : multiple accounts are better bc you can separate funds assigned to different strategies
[2016-06-21 23:48:08] Johnster : Email send
[2016-06-21 23:48:22] Moo : btc ded, long live eth
[2016-06-21 23:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 150 @ 0.01967
[2016-06-21 23:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.01966
[2016-06-21 23:48:55] rapidtrades : micmix: yeah i guess but it can get tedious if u have to manage 5 systems for example
[2016-06-21 23:49:03] rapidtrades : constnt logins etc
[2016-06-21 23:51:30] Johnster : As long swaps are not added to Tradingview, we must be able to Pine Code the chart as a script right? Anybody here that could do it?
[2016-06-21 23:52:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.02019
[2016-06-21 23:52:19] rapidtrades : holy shether
[2016-06-21 23:53:17] Moo : so many eth bears gonna get rekt
[2016-06-21 23:53:33] rapidtrades : eat me Mooooooooooooooo
[2016-06-21 23:53:45] Moo : Eth could be dead tomorrow, something like this would still have happened
[2016-06-21 23:53:53] Skuffone : Why does the PNL calc only work out 50x
[2016-06-21 23:54:11] Moo : as soon as the herd thinks it knows something, it gets proved wrong, at least enough to destroy their positions
[2016-06-21 23:54:12] Skuffone : what if i want 4x
[2016-06-21 23:54:39] rapidtrades : for PnL only the size is enough
[2016-06-21 23:55:54] luckynuke : so guys, no cheap eth there
[2016-06-21 23:58:32] Moo : if bear on eth, short here probably
[2016-06-21 23:59:00] Moo : DAO people getting their money back is not good for eth
[2016-06-21 23:59:06] Moo : only short term
[2016-06-21 23:59:21] luckynuke : BitMEX_Sam: if i go long on eth, i get paid 0.0071% of the amount of my contracts, is that right ?
[2016-06-21 23:59:37] QuantFocus : yes, for that period
[2016-06-22 00:00:04] Moo : please long eth here
[2016-06-22 00:00:22] luckynuke : QuantFocus: and the period is per day, right ?
[2016-06-22 00:00:41] QuantFocus : on eth, i believe so
[2016-06-22 00:01:15] BitMEX_Arthur : luckynuke: Yes
[2016-06-22 00:01:19] BitMEX_Arthur : At 12:00 UTC
[2016-06-22 00:01:26] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are still long by then
[2016-06-22 00:01:46] luckynuke : ok nice for reply
[2016-06-22 00:02:27] QuantFocus : i really hate eth. i'm not short, but i want to be
[2016-06-22 00:02:35] QuantFocus : just can't trust it
[2016-06-22 00:02:59] luckynuke : QuantFocus: tehe, just take the profit
[2016-06-22 00:03:34] luckynuke : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/ETHBTC/8qzo0y66-ETHBTC-Head-and-Shoulder-Pattern-Short/
[2016-06-22 00:03:38] Johnster : Any Pine Script Coders in here?
[2016-06-22 00:04:35] rapidtrades : that;s a dead cat bounce in eth imo
[2016-06-22 00:04:49] rapidtrades : it lost 50% in two days, had to bounce sometime
[2016-06-22 00:05:05] luckynuke : rapidtrades: these 50% had a reason lol
[2016-06-22 00:08:16] QuantFocus : right...
[2016-06-22 00:08:41] QuantFocus : it was overvalued to start with. i'm surprised it didn't drop 75%
[2016-06-22 00:09:06] QuantFocus : hard money backing it though
[2016-06-22 00:10:57] rapidtrades : hard money as in BTC?
[2016-06-22 00:17:36] Rado : Any ETH news?
[2016-06-22 00:18:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 9 @ 0.02046
[2016-06-22 00:21:24] Rado : http://ow.ly/riQ1301vbzL
[2016-06-22 00:22:26] rapidtrades : Rado: as in what? a new hack?
[2016-06-22 00:22:33] rapidtrades : or a new fork perhaps?
[2016-06-22 00:22:57] rapidtrades : maybe Vilaty Buttlicker needs some spending money
[2016-06-22 00:22:58] luckynuke : rapidtrades: hardfork would be a dump for eth
[2016-06-22 00:23:08] rapidtrades : could*
[2016-06-22 00:23:21] luckynuke : hardfork 99%
[2016-06-22 00:23:56] rapidtrades : nothing is 99% in trading nuke
[2016-06-22 00:25:12] luckynuke : nothing is 100%
[2016-06-22 00:25:29] luckynuke : cause 100% is everything
[2016-06-22 00:27:30] zanza : lot of flippers today
[2016-06-22 00:27:38] rapidtrades : zanza: hey
[2016-06-22 00:27:50] rapidtrades : idk pretty boring day
[2016-06-22 00:27:51] zanza : u still short on Sep futures?
[2016-06-22 00:27:57] rapidtrades : sure
[2016-06-22 00:28:08] zanza : how about forex
[2016-06-22 00:28:19] zanza : im short SPX and WTI
[2016-06-22 00:28:24] rapidtrades : ah ok
[2016-06-22 00:28:35] rapidtrades : i'll prolly long the sp500 soon
[2016-06-22 00:28:46] rapidtrades : waiting for a break of the high
[2016-06-22 00:29:23] zanza : EURUSD dipped today, I don't know why
[2016-06-22 00:29:29] zanza : BREXIT will likely faill
[2016-06-22 00:29:46] rapidtrades : Draghi mentioned more easing could be on the way
[2016-06-22 00:29:53] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: hard money ie institutional
[2016-06-22 00:30:34] rapidtrades : pffft
[2016-06-22 00:30:49] rapidtrades : zanza: oil is starting to look a bit weak tho
[2016-06-22 00:31:50] rapidtrades : could roll over soon...seems very overbought
[2016-06-22 00:35:19] zanza : ECB already negative right?
[2016-06-22 00:35:41] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-22 00:36:16] rapidtrades : they're buying junk corporate bonds now, no joke
[2016-06-22 00:36:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 20 @ 0.01994
[2016-06-22 00:36:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 11100 @ 671.46
[2016-06-22 00:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 384 @ 0.01987
[2016-06-22 00:37:06] rapidtrades : weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2016-06-22 00:40:17] rapidtrades : zanza: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-08/draghi-seen-buying-junk-debt-shows-ecb-will-do-whatever-it-takes
[2016-06-22 00:43:22] rapidtrades : cmon...$150 spread
[2016-06-22 00:43:31] rapidtrades : do i have to start mming this shit
[2016-06-22 00:48:20] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: That would be great if you added liquidity to XBTU16
[2016-06-22 00:50:32] rapidtrades : loool
[2016-06-22 00:50:49] rapidtrades : that wil be hard to do manually
[2016-06-22 00:51:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: did sleger pull his MM bots too?
[2016-06-22 00:54:12] micmix : rapidtrades: you can do it manually, just use large spread like $40
[2016-06-22 00:54:36] rapidtrades : yeah maybe....
[2016-06-22 00:54:52] rapidtrades : micmix: you're not doing it either?
[2016-06-22 00:55:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 676.25
[2016-06-22 00:55:28] micmix : rapidtrades: I have a bot on XBTU16 but it's doing directional trades, not MMing
[2016-06-22 00:55:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 499 @ 676.34
[2016-06-22 00:55:45] rapidtrades : micmix: short?
[2016-06-22 00:56:07] micmix : short with about $980 entry
[2016-06-22 00:56:20] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-06-22 00:56:49] hey : bfx +1 hour wddrwl delays
[2016-06-22 00:56:58] rapidtrades : hey: hey
[2016-06-22 00:57:12] hey : hey
[2016-06-22 00:57:29] rapidtrades : hey: hi
[2016-06-22 00:57:35] hey : whats up
[2016-06-22 00:57:42] rapidtrades : hey: hello
[2016-06-22 00:57:45] clipperhawk : ..
[2016-06-22 00:58:15] hey : whats up with eth? any news out?
[2016-06-22 00:58:27] rapidtrades : we don't know
[2016-06-22 00:58:31] rapidtrades : we need jung1
[2016-06-22 00:58:46] rapidtrades : jung1: wake up jew
[2016-06-22 01:00:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 56 @ 0.02077
[2016-06-22 01:00:30] boolander : Bitmex lads - not sure if you already discussed earlier. What is your ETA for getting comfortable with bitfinex stability to add back to index mark?
[2016-06-22 01:01:12] rapidtrades : boolander: in 11 hrs
[2016-06-22 01:01:26] boolander : ta
[2016-06-22 01:01:53] BitMEX_Arthur : boolander: 12:00 UTC today, we will release a formal announcement in a few hours
[2016-06-22 01:01:54] rapidtrades : if it doesn't crash in the meantime
[2016-06-22 01:02:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes but that all depends on BFX behaving until then
[2016-06-22 01:02:29] rapidtrades : this is such a sad state of affairs man
[2016-06-22 01:02:51] rapidtrades : does GDAX have leverage?
[2016-06-22 01:02:58] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: You guys as customers of BFX need to put pressure on them to improve
[2016-06-22 01:03:23] BitMEX_Arthur : GDAX doesn't have margin trading to my knowledge
[2016-06-22 01:03:53] rapidtrades : i think finex won't change until ppl start leaving
[2016-06-22 01:04:15] rapidtrades : i'm already not comfortable using margin trading with them in this envinroment
[2016-06-22 01:04:41] rapidtrades : so they're potentially losing 2/3 of my fees
[2016-06-22 01:05:14] Tulsene : hello
[2016-06-22 01:05:28] Tulsene : @BitMEX_Arthur will you add a quaterly on eth plz?
[2016-06-22 01:06:08] Tulsene : I really want to trade this kind of contracts
[2016-06-22 01:06:55] rapidtrades : also their fees are not competitive in the spot trading area...only stamp is worse
[2016-06-22 01:07:42] MrJ1m : someone talking about a 3M contract for eth?
[2016-06-22 01:08:12] Tulsene : you want some too?
[2016-06-22 01:08:13] MrJ1m : i'd like that
[2016-06-22 01:08:20] Tulsene : :+1:
[2016-06-22 01:08:50] Tulsene : how many user you want to open such contracts?
[2016-06-22 01:08:59] Davyd05 : Any support here>? request for some support on whalepool ts
[2016-06-22 01:09:08] Tulsene : because for it I can find at least 10 regular users
[2016-06-22 01:09:08] Davyd05 : Someone is having clef issues
[2016-06-22 01:09:09] MrJ1m : need market makers Tulsene
[2016-06-22 01:10:36] micmix : Tulsene: why you need quarterly? ETHXBT is perpetual, you can hold it for a quarter if you want
[2016-06-22 01:10:41] Tulsene : I'm a tiny market maker
[2016-06-22 01:10:58] BeautyBubble : I am here.
[2016-06-22 01:11:07] Tulsene : I don't like perpetual
[2016-06-22 01:11:13] MrJ1m : swap cost a lot tho
[2016-06-22 01:11:18] Tulsene : I prefer long term contract
[2016-06-22 01:11:19] MrJ1m : no good for LT hedging
[2016-06-22 01:11:27] Tulsene : atm I only can trade on XBTU16
[2016-06-22 01:11:33] yerb : any bitmex staff here?
[2016-06-22 01:11:39] rapidtrades : holy shit
[2016-06-22 01:11:44] MrJ1m : micmix would you hold for a quarter?
[2016-06-22 01:11:50] rapidtrades : where aer u ppl coming from
[2016-06-22 01:12:00] Tulsene : it's an invasion
[2016-06-22 01:12:03] MrJ1m : lel
[2016-06-22 01:12:36] MrJ1m : timezone are a scam
[2016-06-22 01:12:47] MrJ1m : no such thing where i come from
[2016-06-22 01:13:04] BitMEX_Arthur : Davyd05: What's up
[2016-06-22 01:13:20] yerb : yo arthur
[2016-06-22 01:13:33] Tulsene : ( MrJ1m come from moon, there is only one timezone here)
[2016-06-22 01:13:48] rapidtrades : BUILD A WALL
[2016-06-22 01:14:18] Tulsene : where @rapidtrades
[2016-06-22 01:14:21] Tulsene : ?
[2016-06-22 01:14:49] BitMEX_Arthur : I'm logged into ts.dbag.io pm me for anything you need
[2016-06-22 01:14:53] BitMEX_Arthur : yerb: Hi
[2016-06-22 01:15:04] yerb : ok cya there
[2016-06-22 01:15:49] Tulsene : can I come to ask you for some request too plz @BitMEX_Arthur?
[2016-06-22 01:20:55] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.5935 (vs. yesterday at 6.5656)
[2016-06-22 01:23:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : A negative funding rate... do my eyes deceive me?
[2016-06-22 01:25:21] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: XBTUSD longs will be paid 0.0681% in 3 hours
[2016-06-22 01:25:37] rapidtrades : sweet
[2016-06-22 01:26:10] rapidtrades : that's 46 cents per bitcoin
[2016-06-22 01:27:59] BitMEX_Arthur : Tulsene: It's probably faster for you to email me directly arthur@bitmex.com i'm much more responsive via email
[2016-06-22 01:28:29] Tulsene : ok I do that, let me a second
[2016-06-22 01:34:43] Tulsene : done
[2016-06-22 01:36:21] aethlios : nice 10.000 liquidity
[2016-06-22 01:38:12] viptrader : all in ETH short?
[2016-06-22 01:47:00] QuantFocus : viptrader: i threw a short in at .0209. looks ripe for 5-10% retrace
[2016-06-22 01:47:19] QuantFocus : not yolo though. cause, eth.
[2016-06-22 01:47:26] viptrader : full retrace, eth will go to 0.0055 soon
[2016-06-22 01:47:34] QuantFocus : i'd love that
[2016-06-22 01:53:27] BeautyBubble : Sam. I am here. Hoping it is okay if I am just a monitor. Not a moderator, just a monitor.
[2016-06-22 01:53:45] BeautyBubble : Let me know.
[2016-06-22 01:56:25] hey : bfx's payout slave must be busy. +2 hour delays now
[2016-06-22 01:57:59] hey : viptrader: .0055 or .055 ?
[2016-06-22 02:01:41] hey : eth up btc down, world spins around
[2016-06-22 02:45:24] mbaril : its calm.... too calm
[2016-06-22 02:49:29] hey : mbaril: which way you aiming?
[2016-06-22 02:49:38] hey : (if any)
[2016-06-22 02:49:57] mbaril : no specific way. its just really calm :p
[2016-06-22 02:50:09] hey : that time of day though
[2016-06-22 02:50:19] hey : where you at?
[2016-06-22 02:50:20] mbaril : should get some movement in 1h I guess
[2016-06-22 02:50:21] hey : im euro
[2016-06-22 02:50:30] mbaril : Im in Canada
[2016-06-22 02:50:36] mbaril : 22h50 right now for me
[2016-06-22 02:50:51] hey : closing in on five in the morning here
[2016-06-22 02:50:55] mbaril : slowly moving on cny
[2016-06-22 02:51:45] mbaril : guess we will try 4500 before 12h
[2016-06-22 02:51:51] mbaril : curious to see it
[2016-06-22 02:52:16] mbaril : we are a little bit low here but nothing to worry about I guess
[2016-06-22 02:53:19] mbaril : hey: wondering when we will see 700 again
[2016-06-22 02:53:54] hey : id say soon, i do nothing but long btc all day long
[2016-06-22 02:54:12] mbaril : :p
[2016-06-22 02:54:27] mbaril : I keep that save and keep it with small trade
[2016-06-22 02:54:49] hey : yeah no point in oversizing
[2016-06-22 02:55:06] hey : cuts both ways
[2016-06-22 02:55:32] mbaril : yeah Im more trading on the waves making some small gain on each up and down
[2016-06-22 02:56:18] mbaril : we are still 3$ lower than coin and finex
[2016-06-22 02:59:04] mbaril : smeeling the bear trap
[2016-06-22 03:01:52] hey : it's all noise, btc is done with down
[2016-06-22 03:02:28] mbaril : will see. This noise is funny. easy to make 50-100 $ every 1 or 2 hour just for fun
[2016-06-22 03:03:06] hey : well then you don't do it very small. keep that up and grow your size when in tune
[2016-06-22 03:04:38] mbaril : im making sure I cash out just in case of a flash crash or a spike
[2016-06-22 03:04:54] hey : for the manual stuff, it seems to me if one can keep it in check and ride the waves in a chilled out way all WILL be well
[2016-06-22 03:05:36] hey : yeah for sure, with any leveraged stuff you got to keep removing gains
[2016-06-22 03:07:48] hey : anyway, i tend to lose my shirt with any directional manual stuff, but i cant help it :)
[2016-06-22 03:08:16] hey : it just feels so good when it goes well
[2016-06-22 03:09:14] hey : mbaril: you do any api stuff
[2016-06-22 03:09:17] hey : ?
[2016-06-22 03:09:43] mbaril : nope
[2016-06-22 03:09:48] mbaril : im connected and ready
[2016-06-22 03:09:48] mbaril : :p
[2016-06-22 03:10:07] hey : :)
[2016-06-22 03:14:54] QuantFocus : any mods around?
[2016-06-22 03:15:02] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: @BitMEX_Arthur
[2016-06-22 03:18:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1977 @ 0.02108
[2016-06-22 03:20:03] elmorte : LOL @Bitmex_Sam
[2016-06-22 03:20:22] elmorte : Well played on the chat archive
[2016-06-22 03:21:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.02130
[2016-06-22 03:21:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.02140
[2016-06-22 03:23:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 22 @ 0.02160
[2016-06-22 03:24:33] elmorte : Eth bubbling again? Based on fn what?
[2016-06-22 03:25:34] mbaril : base on people want to bring it back up for I dont know why :p
[2016-06-22 03:27:31] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: Hello
[2016-06-22 03:27:42] QuantFocus : hey
[2016-06-22 03:27:54] QuantFocus : just wondering, where can we reconcile the funding rate against account balance?
[2016-06-22 03:28:24] QuantFocus : i see the funding action in trade history, but it doesn't have an account balance associated with it.
[2016-06-22 03:28:32] BitMEX_Wally : Trade History contains a Funding execution. The fee paid directly affects your realised PNL
[2016-06-22 03:28:43] BitMEX_Wally : so that realisedPNL is in the cash rebalance
[2016-06-22 03:29:01] QuantFocus : on wallet balances tab, right?
[2016-06-22 03:29:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-06-22 03:29:17] QuantFocus : ok, that's what i figured
[2016-06-22 03:29:30] QuantFocus : would be nice if there was a way to separate the rebalance from the funding on wallet balances
[2016-06-22 03:29:47] QuantFocus : since it's effectively netted out of the single figure, unless i'm not correct
[2016-06-22 03:30:19] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we are working on a full breakdown of wallet balance, including all funding and trades
[2016-06-22 03:30:33] QuantFocus : ah, right on
[2016-06-22 03:31:31] QuantFocus : cool, well thanks for the clarification
[2016-06-22 03:35:37] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: very nice wallet page update, open positions info very useful :+1:
[2016-06-22 03:37:39] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks, all credit to BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-22 03:38:00] micmix : thanks BitMEX_Sam! :+1:
[2016-06-22 03:39:37] elmorte : Nice, that oughta reduce the amount of support q's
[2016-06-22 03:41:40] elmorte : mbaril: Some big whales want to cash out perhaps
[2016-06-22 03:44:37] mbaril : dont think so.
[2016-06-22 03:44:44] mbaril : they did a lot of cash on the downtrend
[2016-06-22 03:55:27] Rado : I love bots
[2016-06-22 03:55:55] hey : how is the xbt mark currently calculated? it is below all of okc stamp bfx asnd keiko
[2016-06-22 03:56:01] Rado : my ETH/BTC bot went long At 0.0185
[2016-06-22 03:56:19] Rado : i would have never done this and still hold
[2016-06-22 03:56:52] Rado : there is a calculation formula for mark price
[2016-06-22 03:57:05] Rado : yiubcan read in the documentation
[2016-06-22 03:57:10] Rado : you can
[2016-06-22 03:57:23] Rado : only spot price uses the index
[2016-06-22 04:02:44] BitMEX_Wally : hey: the mark price is the Kaiko index plus the funding rate
[2016-06-22 04:03:40] hey : it says 656.42 right now while kaiko shows 661.7
[2016-06-22 04:04:03] hey : that's almost a full percentage point difference, where does that come from?
[2016-06-22 04:04:39] elmorte : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-22 04:04:49] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks @elmorte
[2016-06-22 04:06:02] hey : ok thx
[2016-06-22 04:09:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 55 @ 0.02311
[2016-06-22 04:09:46] ayy_lmao : ether ruining lives lmao
[2016-06-22 04:10:09] elmorte : Any news on the Oz auction?
[2016-06-22 04:10:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.02346
[2016-06-22 04:12:11] Tetsuo : ETH to da mooon
[2016-06-22 04:13:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1137 @ 0.02386
[2016-06-22 04:13:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1133 @ 0.02384
[2016-06-22 04:19:58] viptrader : FUCK FUCK FUCK
[2016-06-22 04:20:24] ted : any one going to buy some dao here, what if i can't sellit before it delists lol
[2016-06-22 04:20:33] ted : just got 96 of em...
[2016-06-22 04:21:02] viptrader : FUCKING ETHEREUM STUPID PANIC BUYERS
[2016-06-22 04:21:07] viptrader : I GOT LIQUADATED
[2016-06-22 04:21:08] hey : iim holding 48 for retirement
[2016-06-22 04:21:12] viptrader : LOST ALL MY BTC
[2016-06-22 04:21:17] viptrader : GOOD BYE BTC
[2016-06-22 04:21:29] hey : viptrader: you'll be back
[2016-06-22 04:21:36] ayy_lmao : you will be missed
[2016-06-22 04:21:49] viptrader : hey: LOST 1 BTC
[2016-06-22 04:21:53] ayy_lmao : why is dao so cheap here
[2016-06-22 04:22:01] ayy_lmao : free money no?
[2016-06-22 04:22:09] viptrader : THAT WAS EVERYTHING I HAD
[2016-06-22 04:22:12] viptrader : IM DIED NOW
[2016-06-22 04:22:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 5 @ 0.02280
[2016-06-22 04:22:42] ayy_lmao : oh its dao/eth
[2016-06-22 04:22:47] ayy_lmao : thought it was dao/btc
[2016-06-22 04:22:47] hey : viptrader: you'll earn it back
[2016-06-22 04:23:03] ayy_lmao : the fuck am i supposed to do with dao/eth
[2016-06-22 04:23:29] viptrader : hey: i cant!!
[2016-06-22 04:23:32] viptrader : cant buy btc here
[2016-06-22 04:23:36] ayy_lmao : eth pairing alienates so many people from trading
[2016-06-22 04:23:37] viptrader : in my country
[2016-06-22 04:23:49] hey : which country is that?
[2016-06-22 04:23:50] viptrader : i worked so hard to get that btc
[2016-06-22 04:23:54] viptrader : Palestine
[2016-06-22 04:24:14] Tetsuo : viptrader: you got short squeezed out of your BTC? go buy some ETH to make it back
[2016-06-22 04:24:30] hey : ok i feel for you, anyway you'll find yourself another btc and earn more. but it feels like shit to get wipeout, trust me i know
[2016-06-22 04:24:48] mbaril : viptrader: why did you invest all if you work hard to get that btc
[2016-06-22 04:25:13] ayy_lmao : viptrader, I'm no sure how you are feeling right now, but just remember, you can always make it back.
[2016-06-22 04:25:40] viptrader : mbaril: it was a damn mistake i was going to short with only 30%, i pressed the wrong botton
[2016-06-22 04:25:43] hey : viptrader: how did you earn that btc?
[2016-06-22 04:25:44] viptrader : silly me
[2016-06-22 04:25:56] mbaril : viptrader: you need to be careful when you trade
[2016-06-22 04:25:59] ayy_lmao : ouch
[2016-06-22 04:26:01] mbaril : at least you learn something