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[2016-06-21 13:16:07] mrp1nk : Rado: https://soundcloud.com/elux-1/bitfinex-pgil-potter-pgp-on-datacenter-outage
[2016-06-21 13:17:28] Rado : thanks mrp1nk
[2016-06-21 13:17:32] mrp1nk : np
[2016-06-21 13:17:43] mrp1nk : btw. they say that finex is about to come back
[2016-06-21 13:17:44] Rado : I can't believe they are not geographically located
[2016-06-21 13:17:45] fes1974 : updates on twitter
[2016-06-21 13:17:48] fes1974 : https://twitter.com/bitfinex
[2016-06-21 13:18:45] markimarki : when users come back to finex they sell
[2016-06-21 13:18:55] markimarki : or withdraw
[2016-06-21 13:19:04] subjective : china find support.
[2016-06-21 13:19:40] subjective : 15min RSI trend up
[2016-06-21 13:20:14] lockhedge : zanetackett 7 points 3 minutes ago Bitfinex update We believe that internal networking issues between our servers have been resolved, allowing us to reliably run the backend systems, including the trading engine. External connectivity issues remain, however, which may result intermittent unresponsiveness as our hosting provider continues to work on the problem. We will bring the system back up once again to allow people to cancel open orders for a period of 15 minutes before accepting new orders for matching.
[2016-06-21 13:20:46] Rado : where are they hosting
[2016-06-21 13:20:50] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Do ya think finex can handle a bank run>
[2016-06-21 13:20:52] elmorte : ?
[2016-06-21 13:20:53] Rado : they should fire the hosting provider fo rsure
[2016-06-21 13:20:56] Rado : for
[2016-06-21 13:21:01] subjective : 1 tweet can move the market.. welcome to 2016
[2016-06-21 13:25:08] Rado : I hope we are not going straight to $580 from here
[2016-06-21 13:25:36] markimarki : i move my cursor on the entry price and it changes why is that?
[2016-06-21 13:26:04] elmorte : doesn't it say @markimarki ?
[2016-06-21 13:26:16] Rado : no elmorte
[2016-06-21 13:26:21] Rado : this is the price afer rebalance
[2016-06-21 13:26:23] Rado : after
[2016-06-21 13:26:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 133844 @ 668.09 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-21 13:26:29] markimarki : ok
[2016-06-21 13:26:30] Rado : since profits are moved into your wallet
[2016-06-21 13:26:38] elmorte : Pretty sure there is a hover message that says what it is
[2016-06-21 13:26:41] BitMEX_Sam : It does explain what the number is when you hover
[2016-06-21 13:26:48] elmorte : I don't have an open position to check
[2016-06-21 13:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 11 @ 0.01869
[2016-06-21 13:29:37] germanjew : lol @ ethxbt REKT, I have completely forgotten that eth exists!
[2016-06-21 13:30:20] rapidtrades : anyone gotten this error ' transaction rejected by network, absurdly high fee'
[2016-06-21 13:31:11] subjective : man, so much tension
[2016-06-21 13:31:22] germanjew : @rapid yes, I have seen that.
[2016-06-21 13:31:30] rapidtrades : k so what do i do
[2016-06-21 13:32:00] germanjew : is that from bitmex or from playing around with bitcoin-core trying to create your own transactions?
[2016-06-21 13:32:12] markimarki : is there any info about the predicted result of the brexit poll?
[2016-06-21 13:32:47] rapidtrades : germanjew: its from my wallet
[2016-06-21 13:33:07] germanjew : that error message is from bitcoin-core and helps to prevent fat-finger fees.
[2016-06-21 13:33:25] rapidtrades : just using the default man
[2016-06-21 13:33:42] rapidtrades : it showed me 0.12 mbtc fee
[2016-06-21 13:33:45] rapidtrades : so idk whats up
[2016-06-21 13:33:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 667.29
[2016-06-21 13:33:49] germanjew : eish, sorry can't help you then, I don't know
[2016-06-21 13:34:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: help
[2016-06-21 13:34:13] lockhedge : markimarki: implied chance for staying: 76.36% betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
[2016-06-21 13:34:15] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: help
[2016-06-21 13:34:31] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: We don't offer support for bitcoin core
[2016-06-21 13:34:53] elmorte : I thought you had a node each?
[2016-06-21 13:35:00] markimarki : lockhedge: authorities in my country blocking this page
[2016-06-21 13:35:01] markimarki : :D
[2016-06-21 13:35:03] germanjew : lol
[2016-06-21 13:35:05] markimarki : but thanks
[2016-06-21 13:35:47] rapidtrades : it's electrum.........
[2016-06-21 13:35:52] markimarki : there is a good chance to stay so btc wil lower in price,,,,
[2016-06-21 13:36:01] germanjew : what Bitcoin Network Fee are you using?
[2016-06-21 13:36:13] rapidtrades : like i said i used the default 0.12
[2016-06-21 13:36:22] rapidtrades : ive now switched to manual
[2016-06-21 13:36:30] germanjew : geez, thats high!
[2016-06-21 13:36:35] rapidtrades : mbtc
[2016-06-21 13:37:17] germanjew : ah lol
[2016-06-21 13:37:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.01872
[2016-06-21 13:37:40] germanjew : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC, scroll down, they have suggested fees
[2016-06-21 13:37:50] rapidtrades : its 8 cents dude
[2016-06-21 13:38:18] Rado : hey rapidtrades
[2016-06-21 13:38:50] laisee : first world problem, rapidtrades ...
[2016-06-21 13:38:55] rapidtrades : i don't understand how fee can be high when it was 8 cents
[2016-06-21 13:40:10] Rado : which index are we using right now for spot?
[2016-06-21 13:40:28] Rado : oh still Kaiko
[2016-06-21 13:40:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Rado: Kaiko
[2016-06-21 13:40:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 25 @ 669.81
[2016-06-21 13:40:44] Rado : but Bitfinex was taken out of the index?
[2016-06-21 13:40:46] BitMEX_Arthur : The index is Bitstamp 50%, OK Coin 50%
[2016-06-21 13:40:54] Rado : thanks BitMEX_Arthur
[2016-06-21 13:40:57] BitMEX_Arthur : It was temporarily down-weighted
[2016-06-21 13:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 100 @ 668.33
[2016-06-21 13:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4500 @ 662.77
[2016-06-21 13:41:07] Rado : great
[2016-06-21 13:41:11] BitMEX_Arthur : It appears the might be back up in an hour or so judging by their last tweet
[2016-06-21 13:41:15] Rado : it's good to be able to adjust this on the fly
[2016-06-21 13:41:24] BitMEX_Arthur : So once they are stable we will notify every one and then add them back
[2016-06-21 13:41:29] Rado : was that build into the Kaiko code?
[2016-06-21 13:41:34] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-06-21 13:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2512 @ 658.71
[2016-06-21 13:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 28519 @ 662.00 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-21 13:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 659.82
[2016-06-21 13:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12752 @ 661.81
[2016-06-21 13:41:51] tscha : highway to hell :)
[2016-06-21 13:42:09] wurstgelee : i'm glad rapidtrades confirmed daily chart is looking great. only a dip oO
[2016-06-21 13:42:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 9000 @ 661.15
[2016-06-21 13:42:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 @ 656.46
[2016-06-21 13:42:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3261 @ 656.91
[2016-06-21 13:42:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 125 @ 657.35
[2016-06-21 13:42:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 656.48 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-21 13:42:18] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-06-21 13:42:24] Rado : I will not be supprised to see prices under $600
[2016-06-21 13:42:24] tscha : wurstgelee: should have been a warning :)
[2016-06-21 13:42:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 653.59
[2016-06-21 13:42:46] tscha : Cream-White-Ox is full short, well played
[2016-06-21 13:42:53] Rado : I will be a buyer there :-)
[2016-06-21 13:42:54] lockhedge : bitfinex orderbook moving, seems first ppl are able to cancel orders
[2016-06-21 13:43:10] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-21 13:43:14] markimarki : wtf????
[2016-06-21 13:43:15] ayy_lmao : this is great
[2016-06-21 13:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 656.40
[2016-06-21 13:44:45] rapidtrades : ok now getting transaction error DUST
[2016-06-21 13:45:02] Rado : where rapidtrades?
[2016-06-21 13:45:12] rapidtrades : nvm
[2016-06-21 13:45:24] BitMEX_Arthur : lockhedge: Can you load the bitfinex.com?
[2016-06-21 13:45:31] rapidtrades : f*ck it guess im getting rekted here then
[2016-06-21 13:45:36] BitMEX_Arthur : I'm still getting scheduled maintenance
[2016-06-21 13:45:45] Rado : me too BitMEX_Arthur
[2016-06-21 13:46:09] wurstgelee : 15:42 - tscha: wurstgelee: should have been a warning ? - tbh great opportunity. short since then ;)
[2016-06-21 13:46:20] wurstgelee : return of the counter indicator
[2016-06-21 13:46:23] wurstgelee : thinks just got easy
[2016-06-21 13:47:48] podizzle3k : longing the volatility index here
[2016-06-21 13:47:51] lockhedge : BitMEX_Arthur: no, got the orderbook data via api, tradeblock has it as well https://tradeblock.com/markets/bfnx/xbt-usd/5m/
[2016-06-21 13:47:54] Rado : Nitfinex showing yellow now on tradeblock
[2016-06-21 13:48:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 652.02
[2016-06-21 13:48:25] markimarki : bloooooooodd
[2016-06-21 13:48:25] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: volatility index is still a thing?
[2016-06-21 13:48:35] podizzle3k : sure
[2016-06-21 13:48:45] germanjew : can log in now
[2016-06-21 13:48:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 649.41
[2016-06-21 13:49:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10599 @ 647.83
[2016-06-21 13:49:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 39776 @ 646.66 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-21 13:49:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 410 @ 647.28
[2016-06-21 13:49:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 672 @ 644.01
[2016-06-21 13:49:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 644.48
[2016-06-21 13:49:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 644.18
[2016-06-21 13:49:57] lockhedge : "Bitfinex.com is up, trading will begin at 14:00 UTC. you can now cancel your orders." https://twitter.com/bitfinex
[2016-06-21 13:50:12] wurstgelee : closed short for now oO
[2016-06-21 13:50:15] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-21 13:50:56] gustavo7 : that wall on stamp
[2016-06-21 13:51:12] wurstgelee : which just got pulled?
[2016-06-21 13:51:14] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-06-21 13:51:26] gustavo7 : 166+111 about 277
[2016-06-21 13:51:33] lockhedge : mid price at finex is 659.89
[2016-06-21 13:52:37] justinlooking : ugh
[2016-06-21 13:54:46] germanjew : $60 diff between bitstamp and last trade on bitfinex
[2016-06-21 13:55:35] markimarki : it's totally oversold now
[2016-06-21 13:55:41] Rado : this might be a great opportunity to get long BTC spot
[2016-06-21 13:55:52] lockhedge : 654.17 (bitfinex mid price)
[2016-06-21 13:56:01] podizzle3k : youre not gonna wait for the bitfinex cascading margin calls?
[2016-06-21 13:56:07] justinlooking : ^^
[2016-06-21 13:56:50] podizzle3k : zanetackett says hes not gonna liquidate anyone until the market is stable
[2016-06-21 13:56:51] podizzle3k : lol wtf
[2016-06-21 13:57:02] BitMEX_Sam : How's that going to be possible?
[2016-06-21 13:57:05] germanjew : lol I hope kaiko only includes bitfinex once they are stable price wise
[2016-06-21 13:57:08] podizzle3k : good luck with that
[2016-06-21 13:57:13] germanjew : yeah I wonder too
[2016-06-21 13:57:25] podizzle3k : maybe bitfinex is planning a btc hard fork with rollbacks
[2016-06-21 13:57:34] justinlooking : lol
[2016-06-21 13:57:36] germanjew : lol
[2016-06-21 13:57:46] xzsd : admin, finex backing in 2minutes
[2016-06-21 13:58:05] xzsd : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/745251979417554944
[2016-06-21 13:58:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 400 @ 0.01882
[2016-06-21 13:59:02] podizzle3k : "We are pausing stops as well as liquidations until the market fills in to avoid a bunch of market orders being dumped on the exchange."
[2016-06-21 13:59:21] germanjew : how long is the pause though?
[2016-06-21 13:59:25] gustavo7 : they gonna wait for a V shape retrace
[2016-06-21 13:59:31] podizzle3k : until they have their shorts in i guess
[2016-06-21 13:59:36] germanjew : lol
[2016-06-21 13:59:44] podizzle3k : this is a clusterfuck
[2016-06-21 14:00:00] gustavo7 : unless the other markets keep it from happening
[2016-06-21 14:00:01] mrp1nk : be ready for the fuckery
[2016-06-21 14:00:06] mrp1nk : fuckeria
[2016-06-21 14:00:14] mrp1nk : fackery
[2016-06-21 14:00:17] laisee : A guided market ...
[2016-06-21 14:00:27] podizzle3k : ah i love a good fuckeria. the dancing, the music
[2016-06-21 14:00:53] laisee : Call the CFTC
[2016-06-21 14:00:55] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: ELI5, didn't they run their testnet on the new datacenter before they moved? I mean, if you test for a week and everything is fine, then I don't see how issues can arise once you move.
[2016-06-21 14:01:02] xzsd : STARTED
[2016-06-21 14:01:06] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: I really don't understand it either
[2016-06-21 14:01:11] mrp1nk : finex up
[2016-06-21 14:01:21] mrp1nk : free fall
[2016-06-21 14:01:23] podizzle3k : well that didnt seem very controlled
[2016-06-21 14:01:32] lockhedge : {"ask": 652.5, "source": "bfx-rest", "bid": 650.0, "mid": 651.25, "ts": 1466517665.572057}
[2016-06-21 14:01:33] germanjew : it's happening!
[2016-06-21 14:01:39] BitMEX_Sam : Lots of people still had bids in the 650-720 range
[2016-06-21 14:01:52] BitMEX_Sam : got instafilled. Looks like either canceling didn't work or they missed the notification
[2016-06-21 14:02:06] arbitrage001 : many will be pissed
[2016-06-21 14:02:12] laisee : Gotta love Bitcoin trading ... Never a dull moment
[2016-06-21 14:02:12] arbitrage001 : filled at 720
[2016-06-21 14:02:18] podizzle3k : yikes
[2016-06-21 14:02:28] chromaticcr1 : that was 4627BTC filled with free money
[2016-06-21 14:03:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah great sells there.
[2016-06-21 14:03:41] laisee : Box dumps on itself
[2016-06-21 14:04:57] MrRGnome : bounce incoming
[2016-06-21 14:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5 @ 650.76
[2016-06-21 14:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 650.71
[2016-06-21 14:05:16] gustavo7 : k i'm short 0.99x
[2016-06-21 14:05:47] jung1 : Damn why I closed my short after previous dump
[2016-06-21 14:06:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6400 @ 655.75
[2016-06-21 14:06:28] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 1000 @ 880.62
[2016-06-21 14:06:31] podizzle3k : now okcoin is down?
[2016-06-21 14:06:32] wurstgelee : lolz. y didnt i get a cpomplete fill @ ~641 ffs
[2016-06-21 14:06:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50 @ 662.37
[2016-06-21 14:06:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 661.93
[2016-06-21 14:07:01] xzsd : LMFAO /\
[2016-06-21 14:07:14] HowDoge : Newbie trader moment! I just had my first legitimately researched and executed trade :D
[2016-06-21 14:07:18] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: i u r using cryptowat.h....yeh
[2016-06-21 14:07:22] wurstgelee : *c
[2016-06-21 14:08:02] luckynuke : pullback woot woot
[2016-06-21 14:08:54] xzsd : backing to 750 in 12h ?! nice liquidateds will make XD
[2016-06-21 14:09:14] podizzle3k : here come the liquidations
[2016-06-21 14:09:27] asdfman : this crash did me good :)
[2016-06-21 14:09:51] Gekko : 750 - unchanged - good chance
[2016-06-21 14:09:54] Juba : this gap on eth..
[2016-06-21 14:09:59] asdfman : from ~0.6 to ~2.45
[2016-06-21 14:10:06] ayy_lmao : nice
[2016-06-21 14:10:23] asdfman : Straight to the baby-fund :P
[2016-06-21 14:10:35] podizzle3k : man and i thought it was goin back to 800
[2016-06-21 14:10:36] Juba : problems Bitmex need to fix, PNL calculation and GAP
[2016-06-21 14:10:40] podizzle3k : heh
[2016-06-21 14:10:41] BitMEX_Sam : GAP?
[2016-06-21 14:10:54] Juba : ye the gap between orders
[2016-06-21 14:10:59] podizzle3k : haha fix it!
[2016-06-21 14:11:03] Juba : fix it!
[2016-06-21 14:11:04] Juba : :D
[2016-06-21 14:11:05] BitMEX_Sam : That's liquidity, not a platform issue. Place orders
[2016-06-21 14:11:08] podizzle3k : make my orders profitable too plz
[2016-06-21 14:11:11] podizzle3k : fix those
[2016-06-21 14:11:14] Juba : ye bring on the liquidity
[2016-06-21 14:11:16] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: :whale:
[2016-06-21 14:12:38] rapidtrades : rektage narrowly avoided
[2016-06-21 14:13:32] tscha : great time to buy back in
[2016-06-21 14:13:39] tscha : don't quote me on that, famous last words
[2016-06-21 14:13:50] jung1 : so end of dump?
[2016-06-21 14:13:53] Juba : impossible to re-enter a position with that liquidty. might as well hodl and hope
[2016-06-21 14:14:01] mrp1nk : finex already going down again
[2016-06-21 14:14:08] Juba : there is REKT or REKT
[2016-06-21 14:14:11] Juba : choose
[2016-06-21 14:14:47] tscha : mrp1nk: finex is up $15 after re-entry 15 minutes ago
[2016-06-21 14:15:09] mrp1nk : i see that you're long hehe
[2016-06-21 14:15:31] j8 : thats $1 per minute
[2016-06-21 14:15:32] tscha : I don't think that the trollbox will influence the price
[2016-06-21 14:15:43] xzsd : jung1: 我想是這樣
[2016-06-21 14:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : We all know this trollbox moves global prices
[2016-06-21 14:15:48] Yumi : long on the bottom of such a wick is often good idea
[2016-06-21 14:15:58] xzsd : haha
[2016-06-21 14:16:09] mrp1nk : Yumi: yeah, sure
[2016-06-21 14:16:09] rapidtrades : then go long and stop yapping
[2016-06-21 14:17:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: when is finex coming back to index
[2016-06-21 14:18:18] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: No official word yet, we and Kaiko both are waiting for stability
[2016-06-21 14:18:22] BitMEX_Sam : Don't want another fake-out like earlier
[2016-06-21 14:18:30] rapidtrades : good point
[2016-06-21 14:18:37] subjective : BitMEX_Sam: how often does it credit withheld profit
[2016-06-21 14:18:59] BitMEX_Sam : Depends on the contract. XBTUSD rebalances daily at 12:00 UTC which means your withheld profit is moved
[2016-06-21 14:19:00] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: +1. at this point finex needs to be considered unreliable unless otherwise prooven
[2016-06-21 14:19:21] BitMEX_Sam : We also move up to 50% withheld profit into your margin balance at 0:00 UTC if the market is stable, but that is discretionary
[2016-06-21 14:20:00] xzsd : you guys believe that this decline is precisely made ​​behind the finex ? yes or no
[2016-06-21 14:20:15] men : yes
[2016-06-21 14:20:25] jung1 : no
[2016-06-21 14:20:31] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised if okc orchestrated this selling
[2016-06-21 14:20:41] rapidtrades : they were desperate to kill the rally
[2016-06-21 14:20:43] mrp1nk : xzsd: it's the best excuse
[2016-06-21 14:20:46] xzsd : rapidtrades: now i have to agree with u
[2016-06-21 14:20:51] men : rapidtrades: agree with you
[2016-06-21 14:21:07] jung1 : there was too much media attention
[2016-06-21 14:21:14] jung1 : bubble popped
[2016-06-21 14:21:25] rapidtrades : finex fault for being a shitty exchange but this selling didn't make any sense
[2016-06-21 14:21:32] rapidtrades : we all know finex is not gox
[2016-06-21 14:21:38] jung1 : panic
[2016-06-21 14:21:44] jung1 : thats all
[2016-06-21 14:21:55] ayy_lmao : rapid why doesnt this selling makes sense to you ?
[2016-06-21 14:22:00] ayy_lmao : bitcoin was way overbought
[2016-06-21 14:22:09] mbaril : ayy_lmao: because he lost money
[2016-06-21 14:22:19] rapidtrades : i lost profits yes
[2016-06-21 14:22:19] mbaril : and when he lost everyone else is stupid :p
[2016-06-21 14:22:28] xzsd : but why not the finex orchestrate just expecting panic sell
[2016-06-21 14:22:33] xzsd : ?
[2016-06-21 14:22:38] xzsd : its a lot to think about this
[2016-06-21 14:22:48] rapidtrades : cos they will lose a lot more business after this imo
[2016-06-21 14:23:05] rapidtrades : plus you'd have to get everyhting in on this
[2016-06-21 14:23:09] rapidtrades : tech ppl etc
[2016-06-21 14:23:17] rapidtrades : not easy to pull off like gox
[2016-06-21 14:23:25] rapidtrades : which was mostly one man shop
[2016-06-21 14:24:07] tscha : mtgox had zero security
[2016-06-21 14:24:12] Yumi : bfx was incompetence not inside job
[2016-06-21 14:24:16] xzsd : sure i agree
[2016-06-21 14:24:21] men : i think someone( super whales) have dumped bitcoin and placed a mega long on ethereum .. mega profit
[2016-06-21 14:24:30] tscha : half of the employees were playing online-games at mtgox
[2016-06-21 14:24:50] tscha : some ex-employee wrote about it once, hilarious
[2016-06-21 14:24:57] xzsd : lol
[2016-06-21 14:25:03] men : if anyone can manipulate ther market.. this is the right way
[2016-06-21 14:25:13] tscha : their market shit the bed and they were playing counterstrike
[2016-06-21 14:25:52] tscha : karpeles logging into "cold storage" with ssh from another computer :)
[2016-06-21 14:26:52] BitMEX_Sam : Well with the A/C turned up it does get pretty cold in there
[2016-06-21 14:27:54] podizzle3k : more like DEA logging into cold storage
[2016-06-21 14:28:41] jung1 : but today was that auction in australia
[2016-06-21 14:28:49] jung1 : maybe its canagaroo dump
[2016-06-21 14:28:59] men : lol
[2016-06-21 14:31:27] rapidtrades : 666.66 finex
[2016-06-21 14:31:28] tscha : for everyone interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fe92x/im_ashley_barr_aka_adam_turner_the_first_mtgox/
[2016-06-21 14:32:23] xzsd : finex broked again?
[2016-06-21 14:32:29] xzsd : a not
[2016-06-21 14:32:32] xzsd : w/w
[2016-06-21 14:32:46] subjective : mega rekt today, would've safe it if BFX come online 5mins earlier. lesson learned u can't predict the bottom
[2016-06-21 14:33:07] subjective : obviously 660 isn't low enough
[2016-06-21 14:33:17] rapidtrades : i was saved by $8 :)
[2016-06-21 14:33:30] rapidtrades : but my problem was faulty wallet :)
[2016-06-21 14:33:50] subjective : rapidtrades: lucky u, should've take it easy buying the way down..
[2016-06-21 14:34:22] rapidtrades : yeah i guess, both unlucky and lucky :)
[2016-06-21 14:34:22] subjective : rapidtrades: what was ur liq price? 630?
[2016-06-21 14:34:28] rapidtrades : 622 :)
[2016-06-21 14:35:10] subjective : insane 720 -> 630
[2016-06-21 14:35:18] jung1 : let it fall
[2016-06-21 14:35:36] rapidtrades : yeah that's a big loss for 1 day imo
[2016-06-21 14:35:42] subjective : setting a target for max 10% drop isn't enough..
[2016-06-21 14:35:53] jung1 : same
[2016-06-21 14:36:08] jung1 : I closed my short from 715 too early
[2016-06-21 14:36:14] jung1 : but profit is profit
[2016-06-21 14:36:22] subjective : where did u close?
[2016-06-21 14:36:26] rapidtrades : oh QQ i closed my short too early
[2016-06-21 14:36:33] jung1 : 687
[2016-06-21 14:36:34] rapidtrades : traitor
[2016-06-21 14:36:43] subjective : jung1: profit > rekt
[2016-06-21 14:36:48] podizzle3k : traitor?
[2016-06-21 14:36:50] podizzle3k : lol
[2016-06-21 14:36:55] jung1 : subjective: shure
[2016-06-21 14:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01815
[2016-06-21 14:37:10] Yumi : **traitor**
[2016-06-21 14:37:13] subjective : jung1: need to aim lower like 20% as buffer when major exchange goes down or DDOS in the future
[2016-06-21 14:37:45] podizzle3k : or just go with a trailing stop
[2016-06-21 14:38:09] rapidtrades : he bought on a pullback..what use would a trailing stop do.............
[2016-06-21 14:38:40] subjective : podizzle3k: that is need, it's like dynamic stop loss in those trading engines
[2016-06-21 14:39:01] subjective : neat*
[2016-06-21 14:39:30] podizzle3k : i was talking to jung
[2016-06-21 14:39:45] jung1 : Why there is a dump: 1. media attention 2. Finex down 3. Okc down 4.gdax laggy 5. australian auction 6. btc was overhyped
[2016-06-21 14:39:57] podizzle3k : and overbought
[2016-06-21 14:40:24] jung1 : and its not end imo
[2016-06-21 14:40:29] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-21 14:40:39] subjective : jung1: hopefully it resets the market towards halving
[2016-06-21 14:40:51] men : jung1: agree with you
[2016-06-21 14:41:32] rapidtrades : like i said yday, most ''traders'' in crypto should be required to take IQ test
[2016-06-21 14:41:54] rapidtrades : if u score below average, BAN
[2016-06-21 14:42:04] Yumi : but bad traders are good for profits
[2016-06-21 14:43:13] men : bitfinex
[2016-06-21 14:43:16] podizzle3k : EQ is way more important than IQ in trading
[2016-06-21 14:43:16] men : huge buys
[2016-06-21 14:43:32] Yumi : to get you filled at 650 somebody must sell there
[2016-06-21 14:43:40] rapidtrades : evtime finex pauses i get nervous now
[2016-06-21 14:43:42] men : 1000 btc buyed O.O
[2016-06-21 14:43:46] rapidtrades : I got PTSD
[2016-06-21 14:44:23] wurstgelee : 16:43 - podizzle3k: EQ is way more important than IQ in trading <-- having both doesnt harm ;)
[2016-06-21 14:44:47] xzsd : SEE THATS WALL SELL GOING DOWN
[2016-06-21 14:44:48] Bacon futures trader : lol, I love that guy that fat fingerd before we made that legg down
[2016-06-21 14:45:18] rapidtrades : that was above here
[2016-06-21 14:46:07] rapidtrades : 682 was lowest i believe
[2016-06-21 14:46:08] men : huob going up
[2016-06-21 14:46:22] podizzle3k : i think men is long
[2016-06-21 14:46:24] podizzle3k : just a guess
[2016-06-21 14:46:55] Gekko : All the US selling now likely done...no more stops left to hit unless the West coast of US wakes up and sells...
[2016-06-21 14:47:12] men : podizzle3k: no i've not open any position yet :D
[2016-06-21 14:47:14] rapidtrades : famous last words gekko
[2016-06-21 14:47:23] xzsd : HAHAH
[2016-06-21 14:47:36] podizzle3k : xzsd u ok bro
[2016-06-21 14:47:36] arbitrage001 : catching falling knife rarely end well
[2016-06-21 14:47:37] xzsd : finex waking up
[2016-06-21 14:47:53] xzsd : podizzle3k: my stomach no
[2016-06-21 14:48:06] Gekko : Day ends unchanged....
[2016-06-21 14:48:19] xzsd : where is the chinese guy jung1?
[2016-06-21 14:48:20] rapidtrades : u wish gekko
[2016-06-21 14:48:51] rapidtrades : 50% retracement is easy target tho
[2016-06-21 14:49:11] podizzle3k : back down now a bit
[2016-06-21 14:49:23] podizzle3k : dinnertime
[2016-06-21 14:49:31] rapidtrades : so to around 700 maybe
[2016-06-21 14:49:48] xzsd : https://twitter.com/hernzzzzzz/status/745250850763739137
[2016-06-21 14:49:49] xzsd : look that
[2016-06-21 14:50:20] xzsd : this whale maybe crying now, or just get a stomach f*cked
[2016-06-21 14:50:29] rapidtrades : what a cunt
[2016-06-21 14:50:42] podizzle3k : wowwww
[2016-06-21 14:50:51] podizzle3k : that was okcoin private account anyway
[2016-06-21 14:50:53] podizzle3k : no harm done
[2016-06-21 14:51:23] podizzle3k : #1-3 are all woodchipper
[2016-06-21 14:51:26] rapidtrades : srsly tho...do i have to buy all the way up?
[2016-06-21 14:51:47] mrp1nk : dafuq someone selling a lot of contracts here
[2016-06-21 14:53:22] BTCDJS : buying at 580. Wish me luck
[2016-06-21 14:53:39] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: hey, u missed all the action
[2016-06-21 14:53:52] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: finex action?
[2016-06-21 14:53:56] rapidtrades : ya
[2016-06-21 14:54:37] BTCDJS : ya been keeping tabs on things. Got an email off the MEX masters saying we aren't using them in index anymore
[2016-06-21 14:54:59] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-21 14:55:20] BTCDJS : how low you think we will go?
[2016-06-21 14:55:29] rapidtrades : cmon bullz buy to 700 i need to eat
[2016-06-21 14:55:32] BTCDJS : I hope no lower than a quick touch on 580
[2016-06-21 14:55:34] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: low is set
[2016-06-21 14:55:44] Tedy : rapidtrades: Nah
[2016-06-21 14:55:49] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-21 14:55:50] BTCDJS : you think this is it?
[2016-06-21 14:55:54] jung1 : BTCDJS: not going to happen
[2016-06-21 14:55:55] Tedy : we could be in parabolic curve pattern then we are going loooooow
[2016-06-21 14:56:21] BTCDJS : 580 is my lowest estimation
[2016-06-21 14:56:41] BTCDJS : but i don't want to be surprised by 560
[2016-06-21 14:56:48] BTCDJS : or lower
[2016-06-21 14:57:04] zanza : morning
[2016-06-21 14:57:06] zanza : what did I miss?
[2016-06-21 14:57:08] BTCDJS : could be 600 tho. so I'm watching out for that
[2016-06-21 14:57:22] rapidtrades : zanza: nothing happened today, pretty boring
[2016-06-21 14:58:00] BTCDJS : 666
[2016-06-21 14:58:11] Rado : how accurate as my chart
[2016-06-21 14:58:12] BTCDJS : we are all going to die
[2016-06-21 14:58:13] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/mnJpcZln-One-possible-scenario-for-BTC/
[2016-06-21 14:58:21] Rado : padding myself on the back lol
[2016-06-21 14:58:33] zanza : wow look at that BitMEX volume
[2016-06-21 14:58:40] zanza : 19k, that is a record
[2016-06-21 14:58:48] rapidtrades : its cool, nothing unusual
[2016-06-21 14:59:04] rapidtrades : just a normal day here in bitcoinlandia
[2016-06-21 14:59:16] BTCDJS : Rado: the 1 day chart is the best for bitcoin
[2016-06-21 14:59:35] zanza : wow they must be making about 15 BTC in fees daily here now
[2016-06-21 14:59:36] Rado : this was a 4h chart
[2016-06-21 14:59:48] BTCDJS : i know
[2016-06-21 14:59:50] rapidtrades : 15 btc? thats like 7k
[2016-06-21 14:59:57] rapidtrades : where does it all go?
[2016-06-21 15:00:04] BTCDJS : hookers and blow
[2016-06-21 15:00:08] zanza : time to lower taker fee to .0005 :)
[2016-06-21 15:00:12] Rado : not enough just to pay Wally's salary
[2016-06-21 15:00:29] rapidtrades : is wally's salary 210k per month?
[2016-06-21 15:00:29] zanza : I hear wally is top talent and demands 500k salary
[2016-06-21 15:00:38] Rado : lol
[2016-06-21 15:00:39] rapidtrades : per month?
[2016-06-21 15:00:44] zanza : lolol
[2016-06-21 15:00:46] Rado : rapidtrades: we are jocking
[2016-06-21 15:00:52] rapidtrades : no shit
[2016-06-21 15:01:33] zanza : I was telling people back in September to drop BitFinex
[2016-06-21 15:01:38] zanza : its obvious their team is clueless
[2016-06-21 15:01:44] rapidtrades : they're shit
[2016-06-21 15:01:57] arbitrage001 : finex tech team works at high level
[2016-06-21 15:02:06] arbitrage001 : dont think they have a good coder
[2016-06-21 15:02:16] zanza : its like mt gox was built on the trading card platform
[2016-06-21 15:02:32] rapidtrades : no standalone platform, amateur hour
[2016-06-21 15:02:34] zanza : they should have just bought out Bitmex last year :)
[2016-06-21 15:02:37] arbitrage001 : mt gox platform is total joke
[2016-06-21 15:02:41] zanza : honestly their best bet
[2016-06-21 15:02:46] arbitrage001 : yet most people use it
[2016-06-21 15:03:22] rapidtrades : maybe if bitmex gets big it can afford to license mt4 or smth
[2016-06-21 15:03:40] arbitrage001 : doubt it will get that big
[2016-06-21 15:03:44] NukeLaloosh : wow sept ask just came down $70
[2016-06-21 15:04:00] rapidtrades : idk ive heard its <100k and its mostly one time fee
[2016-06-21 15:04:11] BitMEX_Sam : We've been thinking about MT4
[2016-06-21 15:04:19] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-21 15:04:20] BitMEX_Sam : There are resellers that are cheaper than the 100k license fee
[2016-06-21 15:04:26] arbitrage001 : compliciance issue isnt one time fee
[2016-06-21 15:04:27] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: +1
[2016-06-21 15:04:35] BitMEX_Sam : It's really a matter of development time and demand
[2016-06-21 15:05:26] rapidtrades : meaning there's some integration to be done?
[2016-06-21 15:06:43] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: Will you correct the .XBTUSDPI Index Historical Values of the first 30 minutes?
[2016-06-21 15:06:57] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yes, it would require significant integration
[2016-06-21 15:07:22] blurrrrrp : Since the it has been wrongly calculated due to the incorrect index.
[2016-06-21 15:07:22] jung1 : fuck
[2016-06-21 15:07:24] jung1 : I lost 1 bitcoin
[2016-06-21 15:07:54] BitMEX_Sam : blurrrrrp: During that time it had to be based on premium only as BFX lending was effectively offline
[2016-06-21 15:07:54] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-06-21 15:08:44] blurrrrrp : Yes, but the Premium was calculated incorrectly since your index was incorrect. With the old Bitfinex price that was still higher.
[2016-06-21 15:09:00] zanza : Sam since you do not accept bank transfers, and are located overseas I don't see any reasons not to officially support US customers.
[2016-06-21 15:09:11] rapidtrades : loooool
[2016-06-21 15:09:16] blurrrrrp : So calculated premium is not correct. You can see the shift right after 30 mins. That was the correct market behaviour.
[2016-06-21 15:09:18] rapidtrades : zanza legal team
[2016-06-21 15:09:46] mrp1nk : zanza: implying us traders are not trading here too
[2016-06-21 15:10:15] zanza : ?
[2016-06-21 15:10:32] mrp1nk : i think there are ppl from the us trading here
[2016-06-21 15:10:36] zanza : Only reason OKC doesn't allow US customer is because they have banking ties
[2016-06-21 15:10:36] rapidtrades : he means US
[2016-06-21 15:10:38] rapidtrades : not us
[2016-06-21 15:10:47] arbitrage001 : mrp1nk: you?
[2016-06-21 15:10:51] mrp1nk : ups, yeah
[2016-06-21 15:10:58] rapidtrades : UPS
[2016-06-21 15:10:59] mrp1nk : arbitrage001: no, i'm a eurofag
[2016-06-21 15:11:24] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Not that simple, simply doing business with US customers would open us up
[2016-06-21 15:11:27] arbitrage001 : mrp1nk: like to visit euro in my life time
[2016-06-21 15:11:35] arbitrage001 : girls are hot there
[2016-06-21 15:11:41] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-21 15:11:57] mrp1nk : arbitrage001: hmm.. depends on your taste. from which continent are you coming?
[2016-06-21 15:12:04] arbitrage001 : asia
[2016-06-21 15:12:09] arbitrage001 : 3rd world hole
[2016-06-21 15:12:22] arbitrage001 : our prime minister is all over the news
[2016-06-21 15:12:26] arbitrage001 : Nazib
[2016-06-21 15:12:29] rapidtrades : anyone been to ukraine?
[2016-06-21 15:12:39] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: Can you answer my question?
[2016-06-21 15:12:40] jung1 : me
[2016-06-21 15:12:51] rapidtrades : jung1: what's it like
[2016-06-21 15:12:57] subjective : BitMEX_Sam: Any plan to use BFX as index again?
[2016-06-21 15:13:04] rapidtrades : did u go pre-war or post-war
[2016-06-21 15:13:06] BitMEX_Sam : blurrrrrp: What incorrect values are you seeing? From my reading it appears the premium overrode the BFX rate during that time
[2016-06-21 15:13:21] jung1 : rapidtrades: you can live there like king on weekend with best hotels, food and alcohol for like 130$
[2016-06-21 15:13:32] jung1 : nice girls
[2016-06-21 15:13:33] rapidtrades : 130 per day?
[2016-06-21 15:13:33] BitMEX_Sam : If the premium was negative or greater than the BFX rate it was used. So the most the BFX rate could have thrown off the PI is by 0.0488 %
[2016-06-21 15:13:41] jung1 : rapidtrades: per weekend
[2016-06-21 15:13:45] jung1 : with transport
[2016-06-21 15:13:49] mrp1nk : arbitrage001: indonesia?
[2016-06-21 15:13:53] rapidtrades : dude,,,that's expensive
[2016-06-21 15:13:58] arbitrage001 : mrp1nk: malaysia
[2016-06-21 15:14:08] blurrrrrp : BitMEX_Sam: But premium was calculated with the wron index, correct?
[2016-06-21 15:14:09] jung1 : but im talking about 5 stars hotels and moet
[2016-06-21 15:14:15] rapidtrades : ah cool
[2016-06-21 15:14:16] blurrrrrp : Since the index had the old price of Bitfinex.
[2016-06-21 15:14:27] blurrrrrp : And Bitfinex was 50% of the index price.
[2016-06-21 15:14:28] arbitrage001 : jung1: ulkrain girls are easy to pick up?