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[2016-06-21 04:59:03] 1QaZxSw2 : well, what if market had stayed down or gone further
[2016-06-21 04:59:20] 1QaZxSw2 : then even more people would be f___d and bitfinex would probably shut down
[2016-06-21 04:59:29] 1QaZxSw2 : this all worked out but it was mostly luck
[2016-06-21 04:59:31] jung1 : worth it
[2016-06-21 05:01:16] Johnster : How is the liquidity here guys? What is the spread like?
[2016-06-21 05:01:34] jung1 : depends
[2016-06-21 05:01:37] jung1 : but cant complain
[2016-06-21 05:01:46] Rado : Jung1 correction doesn't end in one day
[2016-06-21 05:01:56] jung1 : MM do good job here
[2016-06-21 05:01:58] Rado : if you are scalping is ok
[2016-06-21 05:01:58] micmix : Johnster: on XBTUSD liquidity is good, you can open 100k+ positions
[2016-06-21 05:02:26] Johnster : 100K represents how many BTC?
[2016-06-21 05:02:42] micmix : 100,000 US dollars
[2016-06-21 05:03:11] Johnster : Oh... you we're talking USD, I thought contracts...
[2016-06-21 05:03:30] Rado : Bioth
[2016-06-21 05:03:33] micmix : 1 contract is 1 USD
[2016-06-21 05:03:43] Johnster : 1 contract = 1 USD ... LOL
[2016-06-21 05:04:07] Johnster : Are we on tradingview yet?
[2016-06-21 05:04:15] micmix : spread was better when volatility was lower
[2016-06-21 05:04:40] Johnster : How did you guys roll through the BFX outage?
[2016-06-21 05:05:07] Johnster : Cross margin is 50x again?
[2016-06-21 05:06:19] jung1 : yes but contract is perpetual
[2016-06-21 05:06:33] jung1 : so you can open now and clos at 2k in 6 month from now
[2016-06-21 05:15:58] Rado : June lost all the premium
[2016-06-21 05:16:10] Rado : I covered to early
[2016-06-21 05:16:21] elmorte : Rado: I didnt short at all :*(
[2016-06-21 05:16:37] elmorte : Covered Sept too early though
[2016-06-21 05:16:39] Rado : :(
[2016-06-21 05:16:47] elmorte : But lucky it covered at all...
[2016-06-21 05:17:24] Rado : I was posting about June for a couple of days
[2016-06-21 05:17:33] Rado : 800 was too high
[2016-06-21 05:18:05] Rado : and there was a bearish divergence
[2016-06-21 05:18:13] jung1 : finex could push price up today
[2016-06-21 05:18:40] Rado : Nah
[2016-06-21 05:18:53] Rado : 720 max
[2016-06-21 05:22:56] jung1 : 720-740
[2016-06-21 05:33:05] wurstgelee : wow. that daily chart surely looked great :D :D :D
[2016-06-21 05:33:18] wurstgelee : @ rapidtrades ofc
[2016-06-21 05:37:14] jung1 : china on way back to 4800
[2016-06-21 05:39:02] elmorte : china depth charts pretty even
[2016-06-21 05:43:33] jung1 : or not : /
[2016-06-21 05:52:03] elmorte : on the bullish side if anything...am I reading it right?
[2016-06-21 05:52:22] elmorte : Okc and Huob! ones
[2016-06-21 05:53:16] jung1 : even finex is bullish https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort
[2016-06-21 06:16:07] jung1 : elmorte: you are long or still wait?
[2016-06-21 06:16:22] elmorte : wait
[2016-06-21 06:16:28] elmorte : ....
[2016-06-21 06:17:26] elmorte : what in the....we went up to 750 when finex opened???
[2016-06-21 06:18:11] jung1 : someone have fat fingers
[2016-06-21 06:18:15] j8 : yes. got some filled at 730
[2016-06-21 06:31:00] j8 : jung1: the stats on longs opened are way off because a lot of people had their loans closed and reopened during the downtime (for some reason)
[2016-06-21 06:35:21] jung1 : maybe too soon for recover
[2016-06-21 06:45:28] elmorte : my ticker widget just informed me that bitfinex price < 733 :)
[2016-06-21 06:47:06] jung1 : 705
[2016-06-21 06:48:03] jung1 : but we already hit strongest support line at 650
[2016-06-21 06:49:54] jung1 : finex 710
[2016-06-21 06:51:08] elmorte : China not moving yet...
[2016-06-21 06:51:57] jung1 : 20y
[2016-06-21 06:52:04] jung1 : its something
[2016-06-21 06:52:11] elmorte : I suppose
[2016-06-21 06:52:37] jung1 : finex 714
[2016-06-21 06:53:14] elmorte : What's up with our mark?
[2016-06-21 06:54:24] Bacon futures trader : Meanwhile at btce lol ..
[2016-06-21 06:55:17] elmorte : Just $30? They've had worse :)
[2016-06-21 06:57:09] jung1 : When auction at Australia ends?
[2016-06-21 07:06:02] elmorte : 48 hrs
[2016-06-21 07:06:18] elmorte : so in about 10 hrs I think
[2016-06-21 07:09:01] elmorte : 7hrs more like it
[2016-06-21 07:10:21] jung1 : so maybe finex want to win this auction and they try to dump price?
[2016-06-21 07:10:40] jung1 : :)
[2016-06-21 07:11:34] rapidtrades : btce $684
[2016-06-21 07:17:37] jung1 : even bearstamp 710
[2016-06-21 07:17:49] jung1 : up we go
[2016-06-21 07:43:05] rapidtrades : are ppl withdrawing from finex?
[2016-06-21 07:43:14] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: how sexy does the daily look now? :p
[2016-06-21 07:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 15 @ 0.01624
[2016-06-21 07:46:22] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: it looks fine
[2016-06-21 07:46:49] wurstgelee : at least u went from great to fine ;)
[2016-06-21 07:46:52] wurstgelee : it doesnt tho
[2016-06-21 07:46:55] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-06-21 07:48:07] rapidtrades : ur right...i see one small red candle and one medium sized red candle....time to PAnIcK
[2016-06-21 07:48:21] rapidtrades : SELL EVERYTHING
[2016-06-21 07:49:56] rapidtrades : sept still very overpriced
[2016-06-21 07:50:28] rapidtrades : spot fell $60 it fell $50 or smth
[2016-06-21 07:51:18] elmorte : rapidtrades: thanks for making me short Sept last night....cushioned the blow from the swap a bit
[2016-06-21 07:52:07] BigDeadPool : if I go 100x with 1 btc
[2016-06-21 07:52:10] elmorte : Wtf June....
[2016-06-21 07:52:16] BigDeadPool : what would be my
[2016-06-21 07:52:20] BigDeadPool : liq price ?
[2016-06-21 07:52:21] elmorte : It
[2016-06-21 07:52:23] elmorte : would
[2016-06-21 07:52:32] elmorte : be
[2016-06-21 07:52:33] BitMEX_Wally : BigDeadPool: 0.50% away from your entry price
[2016-06-21 07:52:37] elmorte : impossible
[2016-06-21 07:52:43] BitMEX_Wally : `XBJ24H` has 100x
[2016-06-21 07:52:51] elmorte : buzzkill :p
[2016-06-21 07:53:16] BigDeadPool : so how much margin is safe ?
[2016-06-21 07:53:33] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoin has moved 8% today
[2016-06-21 07:53:37] BitMEX_Wally : So try 10x to start
[2016-06-21 07:53:59] BigDeadPool : yup
[2016-06-21 07:54:18] BigDeadPool : it is good not be overleveraged
[2016-06-21 07:56:04] rapidtrades : should finex rly be trading on par with other exchanges after last night's fiasco
[2016-06-21 07:56:23] elmorte : it's all fair in war & crypto
[2016-06-21 07:57:05] rapidtrades : it's impossible for them to fix such a major issue in 8 hrs, they will go down again
[2016-06-21 07:57:18] elmorte : if it indeed was a major issue...
[2016-06-21 07:57:41] rapidtrades : yeah site was out for >8 hrs so yeah major
[2016-06-21 07:58:09] elmorte : site can be out for many reasons
[2016-06-21 07:58:16] elmorte : not necessarily technical
[2016-06-21 08:00:42] rapidtrades : it was technical
[2016-06-21 08:01:34] rapidtrades : that balance display bug is still there
[2016-06-21 08:02:02] BitMEX_Wally : They said `It's a networking issue within our datacenter`
[2016-06-21 08:04:34] elmorte : Y'all know what I'm subtly insinuating :p
[2016-06-21 08:06:31] elmorte : Closed my long....this is teetering on disaster...
[2016-06-21 08:09:07] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-21 08:09:41] rapidtrades : 1 red bar and everyone loses their shit
[2016-06-21 08:11:07] rapidtrades : hey my tradable balance in finex should be 3x my net balance right
[2016-06-21 08:11:22] rapidtrades : like exactly 3x right
[2016-06-21 08:13:44] j8 : no
[2016-06-21 08:13:58] rapidtrades : how much is it then
[2016-06-21 08:14:16] j8 : well it's 30% initial margin so 3.333x for one thing
[2016-06-21 08:14:24] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-21 08:15:36] j8 : but i think they do some funny things if you use btc as margin, it seems like less leverage
[2016-06-21 08:16:17] rapidtrades : no its the display bug
[2016-06-21 08:17:06] rapidtrades : i moved some coins to exchange and it added 2 btc in there while putting me at -1 btc in trading
[2016-06-21 08:17:21] j8 : thats another issue
[2016-06-21 08:17:58] rapidtrades : it's the same issue....cos the negative btc is whats' lowering my leverage
[2016-06-21 08:19:30] j8 : i dunno, everything is messed today. all the margin funding too
[2016-06-21 08:20:15] rapidtrades : great...cunts
[2016-06-21 08:20:53] j8 : okc is still worse
[2016-06-21 08:21:51] rapidtrades : it's a close call tbh
[2016-06-21 08:22:13] rapidtrades : one is manipulating the market, at the other u can't trade the mark
[2016-06-21 08:22:28] Adura : Bitfinex, more like shitfinex.
[2016-06-21 08:22:33] rapidtrades : et....lag still a problem here
[2016-06-21 08:23:14] jung1 : why price drop here?ere will be 4900 in moment on huobi th
[2016-06-21 08:24:58] j8 : who knows
[2016-06-21 08:29:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 74637.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-21 08:30:08] jung1 : [*]
[2016-06-21 08:41:53] jung1 : 4800
[2016-06-21 08:48:09] haxmb : shitfinex agreed
[2016-06-21 08:48:39] haxmb : very profitable though
[2016-06-21 08:48:58] haxmb : whoever just tried to buy $10 above it
[2016-06-21 08:56:31] asdfman : XBTUSD higher than XBTM16
[2016-06-21 09:04:42] BitMEX_Wally : Quanto risk premium :)
[2016-06-21 09:11:06] rapidtrades : ffs
[2016-06-21 09:11:31] rapidtrades : this site is dumb
[2016-06-21 09:13:27] micmix : finex websocket down for my bots
[2016-06-21 09:15:10] rapidtrades : yep site down
[2016-06-21 09:15:37] rapidtrades : this is a joke
[2016-06-21 09:15:46] micmix : connected again but something is not working right
[2016-06-21 09:15:52] rapidtrades : this whole space needs to be sued out of existence
[2016-06-21 09:17:16] rapidtrades : no trades in 6 mins its f*cked again
[2016-06-21 09:17:19] rapidtrades : this is unreal
[2016-06-21 09:17:34] rapidtrades : guess i called it earlier but f*ck....
[2016-06-21 09:22:49] Bacon futures trader : We will be taking down the trading engine momentarily. We are doing everything we can to get back up and running. Will continue updating.
[2016-06-21 09:22:56] Bacon futures trader : bitfinex down again confirmed
[2016-06-21 09:25:27] elmorte : That oughta inspire confidence...
[2016-06-21 09:26:57] elmorte : it's OK it was SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
[2016-06-21 09:29:24] Tetsuo : LMAO
[2016-06-21 09:30:19] keith : We are not confident in the network stability of our datacenter so we have elected to take trading down for the time being.
[2016-06-21 09:30:24] keith : fuck it
[2016-06-21 09:30:47] keith : fuuuuuuuuck
[2016-06-21 09:31:10] Bora : I'm not familiar with quanto
[2016-06-21 09:33:23] BitMEX_Wally : Bora: If you are long quanto and the price rises 10% then you get a 10% return in Bitcoin, but in dollar terms this is a 11% return. This is why the price is higher
[2016-06-21 09:35:04] leetsp33ch : the ltcbtc index should be moved to btc-e instead of finex
[2016-06-21 09:36:18] rapidtrades : ^^^
[2016-06-21 09:36:35] BitMEX_Wally : leetsp33ch: We will move it to Poloniex if Bitfinex remain down
[2016-06-21 09:36:50] keith : stupid finex
[2016-06-21 09:36:54] rapidtrades : cunts
[2016-06-21 09:37:50] leetsp33ch : poloniex barely has buy support, the price therefore could violently spike down on a 50btc dump
[2016-06-21 09:38:40] rapidtrades : i requested pass change 2 days ago so my finex funds are now locked for 5 days
[2016-06-21 09:38:42] rapidtrades : fml
[2016-06-21 09:38:44] rapidtrades : FML
[2016-06-21 09:39:39] rapidtrades : apparently there's no way to disable that...why? cos f*ck u that's why
[2016-06-21 09:40:55] leetsp33ch : regarding ltc: why don't u guys take the average of finex/btce/poloniex? one stops trading, the index price remains 'sane'
[2016-06-21 09:41:51] BitMEX_Wally : We'd rather use a third party index
[2016-06-21 09:52:28] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: Bitmex should create a special market "The Halving" that mature on on halving block number
[2016-06-21 10:02:02] elmorte : oooh....interesting
[2016-06-21 10:06:35] BitMEX_Wally : leetsp33ch: I am failing `.LTCXBT` over to Poloniex
[2016-06-21 10:12:29] leetsp33ch : poloniex has thin books - 100btc to .003
[2016-06-21 10:12:29] leetsp33ch : btc-e has 170btc to 0.007
[2016-06-21 10:13:00] leetsp33ch : polo has lower volume, if someone dumps ltc there all your customers will be screwed :D
[2016-06-21 10:13:57] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: since you work there, wtf is going on at finex?
[2016-06-21 10:18:06] Bora : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-06-21 10:20:04] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Over at Bitfinex we're having problems communicating with the datacenter team because we don't know the right terminology
[2016-06-21 10:20:29] elmorte : Give me their number, I'll call
[2016-06-21 10:20:35] rapidtrades : WAT
[2016-06-21 10:20:44] rapidtrades : THEY CAN NOT BE SRS
[2016-06-21 10:21:09] elmorte : rapidtrades: I know right, like they have humans in a datacenter
[2016-06-21 10:22:05] rapidtrades : did they actually say that
[2016-06-21 10:22:14] rapidtrades : we need to form a suing union
[2016-06-21 10:22:16] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah they have humans, but they tell us it's a network issue so we've phoned up our hosting provider who said ????
[2016-06-21 10:22:17] elmorte : FOr the earlier outage, yeah
[2016-06-21 10:22:36] BitMEX_Wally : Apparently we host our own servers
[2016-06-21 10:22:50] elmorte : Maybe ???? coz it was in Unicode...
[2016-06-21 10:24:33] subjective : WTF BFX down again?
[2016-06-21 10:24:54] BitMEX_Wally : https://bitfinex.statuspage.io
[2016-06-21 10:25:02] elmorte : Eth > 1700
[2016-06-21 10:25:04] elmorte : damn...
[2016-06-21 10:26:36] ayy_lmao : stamp 700
[2016-06-21 10:27:47] rapidtrades : this is a f disaster
[2016-06-21 10:29:09] elmorte : eth pumping...shit's upside down
[2016-06-21 10:30:11] macios15 : nice
[2016-06-21 10:30:16] rapidtrades : this is crypto in a nutshell....
[2016-06-21 10:30:16] ayy_lmao : whale just market sold lmao
[2016-06-21 10:30:24] ayy_lmao : to 682
[2016-06-21 10:30:48] elmorte : ayy_lmao: at where?
[2016-06-21 10:30:55] elmorte : Ohhh...
[2016-06-21 10:30:56] ayy_lmao : here
[2016-06-21 10:30:57] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-21 10:31:01] elmorte : Sorry, was looking at eth chart
[2016-06-21 10:31:07] ayy_lmao : oh sry xbt
[2016-06-21 10:31:10] jesperf : sometimes it's best just to kick back, pop a beer open and watch the madness
[2016-06-21 10:31:16] Bacon futures trader : lol, nice liquidriy
[2016-06-21 10:31:23] elmorte : man, should always have like a crazy opportunistic long and short open...
[2016-06-21 10:31:39] haxmb : cheers for that dum
[2016-06-21 10:31:39] haxmb : dump
[2016-06-21 10:31:54] haxmb : bought 695 and 6818)
[2016-06-21 10:31:57] haxmb : 681*
[2016-06-21 10:31:58] haxmb : 8)
[2016-06-21 10:32:02] ayy_lmao : nice
[2016-06-21 10:32:05] elmorte : over 50k contracts...
[2016-06-21 10:32:19] haxmb : 70 btc
[2016-06-21 10:32:21] haxmb : nothing big
[2016-06-21 10:32:31] elmorte : No, but I would like some
[2016-06-21 10:32:34] elmorte : pls
[2016-06-21 10:33:25] mrp1nk : wow
[2016-06-21 10:33:39] keith : Wally, can I confirm you have failed over the LTC to POLO?
[2016-06-21 10:33:49] mrp1nk : i closed my long 15 min. before bfx went up again and now i see this dumperino
[2016-06-21 10:33:53] keith : BitMEX_Wally:
[2016-06-21 10:34:02] BitMEX_Wally : keith: Yes
[2016-06-21 10:34:13] keith : BitMEX_Wally: cool thanks
[2016-06-21 10:34:21] mrp1nk : #jung1knew :-)
[2016-06-21 10:34:39] BitMEX_Wally : keith: You can check the `reference` and `referenceSymbol` fields on the `.LTCXBT` instrument
[2016-06-21 10:36:45] rapidtrades : peeps need to chill the f out
[2016-06-21 10:38:20] Bacon futures trader : I guess that guy that was bidding 714 got liquidated right there
[2016-06-21 10:38:44] subjective : This is whale action at it's best, DDOS + Dump
[2016-06-21 10:39:00] rapidtrades : subjective: there is no DDOS
[2016-06-21 10:39:16] Bacon futures trader : lol
[2016-06-21 10:39:43] subjective : rapidtrades: well, someone unplugged their network cable then
[2016-06-21 10:40:02] elmorte : subjective: haha, that's what I thought. Check your cables damnit
[2016-06-21 10:40:42] subjective : without BFX, how does Bitmex get Mark price
[2016-06-21 10:41:15] elmorte : They're supposed to fall over to Stamp
[2016-06-21 10:41:22] elmorte : but obv not at the moment
[2016-06-21 10:41:33] rapidtrades : hope not, stamp is a lil bitch
[2016-06-21 10:41:43] elmorte : nah, for real rapid
[2016-06-21 10:41:53] rapidtrades : 4real
[2016-06-21 10:42:08] elmorte : neva lie2u
[2016-06-21 10:42:50] subjective : Would be pissed to wake up to this, "I thought they were up?", "Bro, it went down again"
[2016-06-21 10:42:51] rapidtrades : get f*ucked by 2 elephants simultaneously elmorte
[2016-06-21 10:42:58] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-21 10:43:04] ayy_lmao : savage
[2016-06-21 10:43:11] elmorte : rapidtrades: you have two moms?
[2016-06-21 10:43:11] BitMEX_Wally : We are still using the Kaiko index which is 50% Bitfinex, 34% OKC, 16% Bitstamp
[2016-06-21 10:43:30] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: thx
[2016-06-21 10:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : If Bitfinex does not come back up then Kaiko will de-weight them to 0%
[2016-06-21 10:44:01] men : 692 coinbase
[2016-06-21 10:44:19] elmorte : now's the time to sell at BTC-E
[2016-06-21 10:44:30] men : 689 coinbase xD
[2016-06-21 10:44:50] subjective : BTC-E 672
[2016-06-21 10:45:08] elmorte : Yup, only ~17 discount...it will go to 30
[2016-06-21 10:45:20] elmorte : then you buy and send back
[2016-06-21 10:46:16] rapidtrades : china 724 ppl
[2016-06-21 10:46:26] rapidtrades : keep panicking
[2016-06-21 10:46:35] rapidtrades : remember yday?
[2016-06-21 10:46:50] gustavo7 : china don't count /srcsm
[2016-06-21 10:46:55] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: when u said the daily chart looks great? and i said it doesnt?
[2016-06-21 10:46:58] wurstgelee : yes, i remember that
[2016-06-21 10:47:03] subjective : Chinese must be piss, "Amercian, can't do network 美國不能做網絡"
[2016-06-21 10:47:10] elmorte : rapidtrades has selective memory :)
[2016-06-21 10:50:02] rapidtrades : elephants have excellent memory tho elmorte
[2016-06-21 10:51:07] rapidtrades : like i was saying, yday the fall on USD sites was bigger then the fall in okc quaterly
[2016-06-21 10:51:14] rapidtrades : let that shit sink in
[2016-06-21 10:52:44] elmorte : Never said your mom mated with her own kind...
[2016-06-21 10:52:51] rapidtrades : china doesn't care about ur min freakouts
[2016-06-21 10:54:18] elmorte : Bots are probably the most sensitive to price changes...now the Chinese had great coders but the rest probably has more resources to deploy the bots
[2016-06-21 10:54:23] elmorte : have*
[2016-06-21 10:54:45] elmorte : just pulled that way outta my ass...
[2016-06-21 10:55:06] rapidtrades : to let elephants n2 in, no doubt
[2016-06-21 10:55:18] elmorte : some of your mom's hair in there too...
[2016-06-21 10:55:32] elmorte : mustache hair
[2016-06-21 10:55:44] rapidtrades : is GDAX levereged
[2016-06-21 10:55:50] elmorte : I'm disgusting myself....truce?
[2016-06-21 10:57:41] subjective : down we go
[2016-06-21 10:58:51] elmorte : Bringing up yer mom makes me wanna vomit...
[2016-06-21 10:59:05] rapidtrades : $726 china,,,sure down we go
[2016-06-21 11:01:18] subjective : rapidtrades: yep, china has a nice rising wedge.
[2016-06-21 11:03:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19312 @ 704.48
[2016-06-21 11:03:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22 @ 704.44
[2016-06-21 11:04:21] subjective : stamp 692
[2016-06-21 11:05:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 629 @ 704.25
[2016-06-21 11:05:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9000 @ 703.58
[2016-06-21 11:08:01] subjective : rapidtrades: sure
[2016-06-21 11:08:10] ayy_lmao : 687 stamp
[2016-06-21 11:09:06] rapidtrades : china $725, barely moved
[2016-06-21 11:09:12] rapidtrades : keep freaking out
[2016-06-21 11:09:20] ayy_lmao : *profiting
[2016-06-21 11:10:15] subjective : ayy_lmao: nice, should've short.
[2016-06-21 11:10:37] ayy_lmao : i am?
[2016-06-21 11:11:00] ayy_lmao : oh, you mean yourself?
[2016-06-21 11:11:29] subjective : stamp 684, china not hot ether REKT coming
[2016-06-21 11:12:31] arbitrage001 : howdy
[2016-06-21 11:12:44] arbitrage001 : so, no dpe so far, good news
[2016-06-21 11:13:26] elmorte : arbitrage001: sup dude
[2016-06-21 11:13:32] arbitrage001 : elmorte: hey
[2016-06-21 11:13:49] blackwhite : If swap is at 692 and stamp at 684, does it mean next funding will be paying shorts 1.1%?
[2016-06-21 11:13:49] arbitrage001 : elmorte: are you in KL?
[2016-06-21 11:13:53] elmorte : yup
[2016-06-21 11:14:01] arbitrage001 : elmorte: know any hot girl?
[2016-06-21 11:14:09] arbitrage001 : looking for gilfriend
[2016-06-21 11:14:13] BitMEX_Wally : Predicted Funding: 0.1586% in 9 hours
[2016-06-21 11:14:17] elmorte : blackwhite: impossible, max is current + 0.375%
[2016-06-21 11:14:48] blackwhite : but it counts against stamp now, right? and then limits with current+max
[2016-06-21 11:14:49] elmorte : arbitrage001: hahaha....
[2016-06-21 11:15:06] arbitrage001 : elmorte: you married? or single
[2016-06-21 11:15:15] elmorte : married bud
[2016-06-21 11:15:17] arbitrage001 : where do you hang out mostly
[2016-06-21 11:15:30] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: You can see the Premium Index here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-21 11:15:31] arbitrage001 : i am still new to pub scene
[2016-06-21 11:15:33] elmorte : Used to be Zouk, then Changkat...then house parties...then house...
[2016-06-21 11:15:42] blackwhite : what are the plans for future marking? will it be single stamp or weighted with something
[2016-06-21 11:15:42] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-06-21 11:15:45] elmorte : pub scene, Plaza Damansara is good
[2016-06-21 11:15:47] arbitrage001 : zouk expensive?
[2016-06-21 11:15:54] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Kaiko will go to 50% OKC and 50% Bistamp
[2016-06-21 11:15:56] joshuaf15 : why bitcoin is going down? does it has correlation with ETH??
[2016-06-21 11:15:56] arbitrage001 : cuz i am a dirt poor person
[2016-06-21 11:16:01] elmorte : Old Zouk, haven't been to the new one
[2016-06-21 11:16:10] arbitrage001 : how much it cost usually
[2016-06-21 11:16:34] elmorte : Cover used to be around RM30-50, but if you know someone, you'll get on the guest list
[2016-06-21 11:16:38] elmorte : Beer prob around RM20
[2016-06-21 11:16:44] blackwhite : .XBTUSDPI can't be correct, it is negative now while premium is positive
[2016-06-21 11:16:45] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-06-21 11:16:51] elmorte : But I haven't been since they relocated
[2016-06-21 11:16:55] arbitrage001 : thought it is a lot expensive
[2016-06-21 11:17:00] elmorte : Pubs are more my jam now...
[2016-06-21 11:17:14] arbitrage001 : so i just go there and pick up girl?
[2016-06-21 11:17:21] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-06-21 11:17:28] elmorte : No, that's beach club...
[2016-06-21 11:17:28] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Why do you think the premium is positive? The bid is 691.25 and .XBT is 699.37. I'd call that a discount
[2016-06-21 11:17:42] elmorte : Bring RM400 :)
[2016-06-21 11:17:51] elmorte : She love ya long time :)
[2016-06-21 11:17:56] elmorte : or for the night at least
[2016-06-21 11:18:07] arbitrage001 : expensive
[2016-06-21 11:18:29] blackwhite : because stamp is not 699.37
[2016-06-21 11:18:34] elmorte : Can go upwards of RMB2000 in China...
[2016-06-21 11:18:44] joshuaf15 : look for xbx index price @684usd
[2016-06-21 11:18:48] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: The `.XBT` index from Kaiko is currently 700.10
[2016-06-21 11:18:48] elmorte : But yeah...that's kinda where you take your clients
[2016-06-21 11:18:58] arbitrage001 : cheaper to stay at home and watch porn
[2016-06-21 11:19:04] elmorte : Much cheaper
[2016-06-21 11:19:17] blackwhite : your email on canging swap was misleading then
[2016-06-21 11:21:15] elmorte : arbitrage001: changkat is probably the best place at the moment
[2016-06-21 11:21:27] arbitrage001 : elmorte: how so
[2016-06-21 11:21:27] elmorte : How old are you?
[2016-06-21 11:21:33] arbitrage001 : almost 40
[2016-06-21 11:21:36] elmorte : Most happening
[2016-06-21 11:21:49] elmorte : Try Havana bar then
[2016-06-21 11:21:52] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: How was the email misleading?
[2016-06-21 11:22:02] elmorte : But yeah...mahal
[2016-06-21 11:22:21] arbitrage001 : lots of young girls?
[2016-06-21 11:22:33] blackwhite : "If trading has not resumed for Bitcoin / USD on Bitfinex by 21 June 2016 04:30 UTC (approximately 1 hour from now), the underlying index for all BitMEX Bitcoin / USD products will become the Bitstamp Bitcoin / USD price. "
[2016-06-21 11:22:39] elmorte : When it's not a school nite
[2016-06-21 11:23:06] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Bitfinex resumed at 04:00 UTC so no change was made
[2016-06-21 11:23:23] arbitrage001 : finex still down
[2016-06-21 11:23:29] blackwhite : did it? I saw it only proposed to cancel orders...
[2016-06-21 11:23:34] elmorte : blackwhite: that was for the earlier outage....they went down again after that
[2016-06-21 11:23:38] arbitrage001 : glad i made withdraw, their system is a mess lol
[2016-06-21 11:23:48] elmorte : I didn't...but I might after this one
[2016-06-21 11:24:03] arbitrage001 : interest was 0.78 when i check my account
[2016-06-21 11:24:04] BitMEX_Wally : They were up from 04:00 UTC to 09:15 UTC
[2016-06-21 11:24:15] arbitrage001 : people going to complain when it is up again
[2016-06-21 11:24:18] blackwhite : damn. how can i figure it out when I'm nt finex official? I saw them down that's all and i expect stamp price here...
[2016-06-21 11:24:26] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: https://bitfinex.statuspage.io
[2016-06-21 11:24:40] BitMEX_Wally : We sent out a tweet saying that Bitfinex were up and no change was being made on BitMEX
[2016-06-21 11:24:43] blackwhite : you should have sent new email then saying there is no change
[2016-06-21 11:24:55] BitMEX_Wally : The email said "If"
[2016-06-21 11:25:00] subjective : another rising wedge on stamp, down or reverse?
[2016-06-21 11:25:20] arbitrage001 : have a feeling price going to drop to stamp price right after funding
[2016-06-21 11:25:51] blackwhite : and then it should say "finex is up, it's over"
[2016-06-21 11:26:16] blackwhite : how kaiko is calculated if finex is down?
[2016-06-21 11:26:22] Bacon futures trader : China still at 720$
[2016-06-21 11:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : They use the last traded price
[2016-06-21 11:26:32] Bacon futures trader : Just buy if we flash
[2016-06-21 11:27:10] BitMEX_Wally : If Bitfinex are not trading again by 12:30 UTC then Kaiko will switch the weights to 50% OKC and 50% Bitstamp.
[2016-06-21 11:27:17] BitMEX_Wally : We will send out an announcement shortly
[2016-06-21 11:28:05] asdfman : s o1h?
[2016-06-21 11:28:10] asdfman : so about 1h ?
[2016-06-21 11:28:17] blackwhite : "If" there appear for a minute and go down again, people like me will be fooled again?
[2016-06-21 11:28:36] blackwhite : Send more info.
[2016-06-21 11:28:38] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Not if you stay in the trollbox
[2016-06-21 11:28:43] subjective : blackwhite: u just wake up?
[2016-06-21 11:28:59] blackwhite : nope
[2016-06-21 11:30:00] subjective : avg price 701 > 699.. pretty happy about that
[2016-06-21 11:30:48] bobo : Wally, is the current index correct?
[2016-06-21 11:30:48] blackwhite : i trade for 2 hours today looking at stamp
[2016-06-21 11:32:06] blackwhite : small amount. but confusion still
[2016-06-21 11:32:41] subjective : @arbitrage001 why does it drop after funding?
[2016-06-21 11:33:17] bobo : but for now people with shorts are screwed because of this...
[2016-06-21 11:33:19] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: your PNL is determined by your entry and exit price, not the index
[2016-06-21 11:33:34] wurstgelee : liquidation is tho ;9
[2016-06-21 11:33:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-21 11:33:39] arbitrage001 : subjective: because that is the market price
[2016-06-21 11:33:51] messiaen8844 : once bitfinex is back, will it be weigthed again on the price?
[2016-06-21 11:33:57] markimarki : now the index for xbtusd markets are fixed?
[2016-06-21 11:34:09] men : gdax is down?
[2016-06-21 11:34:23] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-21 11:34:48] men : no its only huge lag
[2016-06-21 11:35:21] subjective : stamp is looking for another move shortly
[2016-06-21 11:35:36] bobo : why not remove bitfinex immediately once it's offline.. this is not crrect wally
[2016-06-21 11:35:53] markimarki : BitMEX_Wally: i mean bitfinex is down so it will be fixed for only bitstamp and okcoin
[2016-06-21 11:35:54] markimarki : ?
[2016-06-21 11:36:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 161684 @ 697.82 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-21 11:37:16] ayy_lmao : heh
[2016-06-21 11:37:22] arbitrage001 : now that will take a while to clear
[2016-06-21 11:37:25] elmorte : Well....it saved him from liqn this long...
[2016-06-21 11:38:02] BitMEX_Wally : markimarki: Kaiko are currently using the last traded price of Bitfinex as 50% of the index
[2016-06-21 11:38:18] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: so once its's updated. REKT
[2016-06-21 11:38:20] BitMEX_Wally : this will become 0% if they are still down at 12:30 UTC
[2016-06-21 11:38:39] markimarki : in an hour?
[2016-06-21 11:38:45] bobo : Why not RIGHT NOW?
[2016-06-21 11:38:51] ayy_lmao : stamp new lows
[2016-06-21 11:38:55] Pedro : china holding like its nothing
[2016-06-21 11:39:06] bobo : Why use an incorrect index from bitfinex.. ?
[2016-06-21 11:39:18] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-06-21 11:40:22] ayy_lmao : shoutout to the liq order
[2016-06-21 11:40:54] markimarki : that will lower the price
[2016-06-21 11:40:59] arbitrage001 : some whale
[2016-06-21 11:41:05] arbitrage001 : wish i have the capital to short just now
[2016-06-21 11:41:10] BitMEX_Wally : We are giving at least an hour's notice of any changes to the index
[2016-06-21 11:41:18] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: it will affect funding too...
[2016-06-21 11:41:25] NukeLaloosh : Pedro: which china you looking at?
[2016-06-21 11:41:39] Pedro : moving now
[2016-06-21 11:41:44] Pedro : it was steady
[2016-06-21 11:41:51] bobo : BitMEX_Wally: but how on earth can u use an incorrect indicator for the index..
[2016-06-21 11:41:51] ayy_lmao : damn it feels go to be a gansta
[2016-06-21 11:41:54] bobo : this is a joke wally
[2016-06-21 11:42:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 696.15
[2016-06-21 11:42:20] BitMEX_Wally : bobo: Contact Kaiko
[2016-06-21 11:42:27] markimarki : new lows
[2016-06-21 11:42:28] bobo : hahahah
[2016-06-21 11:42:44] ayy_lmao : ayy lmaaaoooo
[2016-06-21 11:43:01] bobo : not taking responsibility for using an incorret index.. very mature!
[2016-06-21 11:43:15] ayy_lmao : "quit panicking"
[2016-06-21 11:43:28] ayy_lmao : stamp REKT
[2016-06-21 11:43:30] ayy_lmao : 668
[2016-06-21 11:44:03] jesperf : welcome back to ETH, panickers
[2016-06-21 11:45:17] elmorte : lol, eth > 1800
[2016-06-21 11:45:27] markimarki : liquidation triggers on mark price?
[2016-06-21 11:47:24] BitMEX_Arthur : markimarki: Correct
[2016-06-21 11:47:47] subjective : BitMEX_Arthur: how long do we have for the index to update (0% BFX)?
[2016-06-21 11:48:58] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: any update from BFX?
[2016-06-21 11:50:43] germanjew : 40 minutes?
[2016-06-21 11:50:44] BitMEX_Arthur : subjective: about 40 minutes
[2016-06-21 11:50:52] BitMEX_Arthur : We have the same information as you regarding Bitfinex
[2016-06-21 11:51:03] BitMEX_Arthur : They haven't sent out a tweet in the last 2 hours
[2016-06-21 11:56:47] messiaen8844 : Arthur
[2016-06-21 11:56:55] messiaen8844 : once finex is back online, will you guys weight them again?
[2016-06-21 11:57:37] Bacon futures trader : lol, bitstamp is such a shit exchange
[2016-06-21 11:58:01] ayy_lmao : i no rite
[2016-06-21 11:58:33] BitMEX_Arthur : messiaen8844: Yes Kaiko will up-weight them again
[2016-06-21 12:00:23] markimarki : so normally in 30 minutes kaiko weights only okcoin and stamp that will lower the price with the panic and all than when they rewight finex too price will go up
[2016-06-21 12:00:31] wurstgelee : the mark price @ 690 IS ridiculous atm. no matter for what reason
[2016-06-21 12:01:14] ayy_lmao : was there dpe?
[2016-06-21 12:03:03] chromaticcr1 : instaREKT in 27 minutes
[2016-06-21 12:03:14] subjective : chromaticcr1: longest 27mins
[2016-06-21 12:03:32] ayy_lmao : my go
[2016-06-21 12:03:33] ayy_lmao : china
[2016-06-21 12:04:00] ayy_lmao : bitmex support here?
[2016-06-21 12:04:37] subjective : Bacon futures trader: china $720 anymore?
[2016-06-21 12:04:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 350 @ 0.00707
[2016-06-21 12:04:59] elmorte : China is 702
[2016-06-21 12:05:38] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: Hello
[2016-06-21 12:05:42] subjective : okcoin 666.8
[2016-06-21 12:06:05] luckynuke : 4600 breach
[2016-06-21 12:06:21] Avalanche : BitMEX_Arthur: Hello. One question about contract details and unrealised PNL
[2016-06-21 12:06:32] Avalanche : if I close my position
[2016-06-21 12:06:47] Avalanche : and I was in positive balance
[2016-06-21 12:06:56] Avalanche : will it add as profit at rebalance
[2016-06-21 12:06:58] subjective : 1 BTC confirmation will save my position. finger cross
[2016-06-21 12:07:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 406 @ 687.38
[2016-06-21 12:07:02] ayy_lmao : @Bitmex_Wally: I'm confused on the cash re balance for ETH/XBT on my account, says -0.4, haven't traded it today.
[2016-06-21 12:07:18] ayy_lmao : liq?
[2016-06-21 12:07:47] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: Check your trade history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-21 12:07:52] BitMEX_Wally : Either liquidation or funding
[2016-06-21 12:07:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 225 @ 691.94
[2016-06-21 12:08:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3779 @ 0.01916
[2016-06-21 12:09:30] elmorte : who insta liq on ETH?
[2016-06-21 12:09:36] elmorte : whoa
[2016-06-21 12:11:09] luckynuke : support 660 reached
[2016-06-21 12:11:45] elmorte : Oh that was a short on ETH...
[2016-06-21 12:12:39] ayy_lmao : rip liquidity
[2016-06-21 12:12:41] ayy_lmao : 15 spread
[2016-06-21 12:12:44] chromaticcr1 : wtf
[2016-06-21 12:12:47] ayy_lmao : 20
[2016-06-21 12:12:47] macios15 : 720 xD
[2016-06-21 12:12:51] donatan : what is that
[2016-06-21 12:12:55] donatan : !!
[2016-06-21 12:12:57] ayy_lmao : rip
[2016-06-21 12:13:01] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-06-21 12:13:03] bobo : yes, in 18 minutues everything will be better