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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-21 04:15:33] elmorte : rapidtrades: i pinged you [2016-06-21 04:16:05] elmorte : 11:54 - elmorte: @rapidtrades [2016-06-21 04:16:15] elmorte : more than enough time to get off your mom's titty :p [2016-06-21 04:16:49] santacruz : BitMEX_Wally: How fast profit adjustment is recalculated? [2016-06-21 04:17:12] 1QaZxSw2 : finex going back offline [2016-06-21 04:17:17] 1QaZxSw2 : sell...sell...sell [2016-06-21 04:17:48] elmorte : 1QaZxSw2: wtf? [2016-06-21 04:18:05] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, but they promise to come back up soon [2016-06-21 04:18:31] elmorte : 1QaZxSw2: lol [2016-06-21 04:18:35] 1QaZxSw2 : honestly no one knows wtf is going on, probably even bitfinex [2016-06-21 04:19:32] 1QaZxSw2 : ok, finex is back [2016-06-21 04:20:24] BitMEX_Sam : santacruz: It is realtime [2016-06-21 04:22:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 706.31 [2016-06-21 04:22:35] janos666 : Bitcojn, really? [2016-06-21 04:22:44] QuantFocus : haha [2016-06-21 04:22:51] QuantFocus : i'm sure they were releasing announcement quickly. [2016-06-21 04:22:58] QuantFocus : missed the proofread there. [2016-06-21 04:24:10] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, apologies, Arthur sent that from his phone and missed the letter. In any case the intention is clear; we will remain on Kaiko which is 50% BFX. [2016-06-21 04:25:21] rapidtrades : finex is still f*cked...i moved some btc from tradong to exchange and now it shows -1 trading +2 exchange [2016-06-21 04:25:47] BitMEX_Sam : I'm hearing reports of intermittent issues but it appears to still be trading decently. [2016-06-21 04:25:55] 1QaZxSw2 : they doubled everyones deposits i think to avoid margin calls [2016-06-21 04:26:07] rapidtrades : lol? [2016-06-21 04:26:14] 1QaZxSw2 : not really sure wahts going on [2016-06-21 04:27:42] rapidtrades : ppl should be required to pass IQ test before trading crypto [2016-06-21 04:27:55] rapidtrades : today was ridiculous [2016-06-21 04:28:01] 1QaZxSw2 : but then there would be no volume? [2016-06-21 04:28:19] mbaril : its not because you didnt made money that other people are stupid @rapidtrades [2016-06-21 04:28:24] miramm1115 : rapidtrades: ppl should be required to know what they are doing before building bitcoin exchanges [2016-06-21 04:29:03] QuantFocus : miramm1115: but then we wouldn't have mtgox [2016-06-21 04:29:17] QuantFocus : and that's just a world i don't want to live in [2016-06-21 04:29:40] QuantFocus : no karpeles frappacino threads on reddit... [2016-06-21 04:29:45] rapidtrades : mbaril: ur the perfect example of why we need such a test [2016-06-21 04:30:00] mbaril : rapidtrades: are you mad bro [2016-06-21 04:38:33] Rado : Do we get even lower from here? [2016-06-21 04:38:52] 1QaZxSw2 : well, theres got to be some proft taking by anyone who called the low [2016-06-21 04:39:10] arbitrage001 : 1QaZxSw2: someone with 20/20 hindsight? [2016-06-21 04:39:39] Rado : Also people that got scared and want out [2016-06-21 04:40:19] 1QaZxSw2 : is it selling or not? [2016-06-21 04:42:13] QuantFocus : well, the funding rate is positive for longs atm [2016-06-21 04:42:21] QuantFocus : so i got that goin for me, which is nice [2016-06-21 04:44:09] Rado : Hopefully you have a stop as well [2016-06-21 04:44:23] huangyong : BitMEX_Sam: 管理员,已成交记录里面,现在有挂单张数和xbt数量,对于部分成交的,能不能显示一下成交了多少 [2016-06-21 04:44:58] Rado : Exactly huangyong [2016-06-21 04:45:11] huangyong : 现在我挂个单子,部分成交了,我都不知道到底成交了多少个币,特别是我之前有仓位的情况,算半天才知道 [2016-06-21 04:45:31] huangyong : Rado: what? [2016-06-21 04:46:14] Rado : Wanted to know if you know English [2016-06-21 04:46:20] Rado : NOw I do [2016-06-21 04:47:21] jung1 : dafaq happen to okc? [2016-06-21 04:48:27] jung1 : finex is ok now? [2016-06-21 04:48:43] huangyong : jung1: yes,is ok [2016-06-21 04:49:15] huangyong : Rado: I can use google translate [2016-06-21 04:49:25] jung1 : what china thinks of finex? @huangyong [2016-06-21 04:50:14] jung1 : finex offcially have 4% global btc volume and couse of them price dropped by 12% [2016-06-21 04:50:33] huangyong : @jung1 is nice,The only problem, the lever is too small [2016-06-21 04:51:14] jung1 : Coinbase planning GDAX maintenance today: 9:00pm - 9:30pm PDT, Tuesday, June 21st https://coinbase.statuspage.io/incidents/33gh2ddq75pq [2016-06-21 04:51:31] 1QaZxSw2 : wtf did they announce it just now? [2016-06-21 04:52:08] huangyong : jung1: The other is the fees are too expensive [2016-06-21 04:52:52] jung1 : yes [2016-06-21 04:54:21] jung1 : ah fuck it [2016-06-21 04:54:23] jung1 : Im going long [2016-06-21 04:55:39] 1QaZxSw2 : dude wait for a pullback. this could sell off [2016-06-21 04:55:52] 1QaZxSw2 : at least scale your poz in [2016-06-21 04:56:14] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny [2016-06-21 04:56:22] jung1 : huobi hit floor 3 times [2016-06-21 04:56:31] j8 : that link is not gonna work :) [2016-06-21 04:56:34] jung1 : finex is up [2016-06-21 04:56:40] jung1 : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/hu obi/btccny [2016-06-21 04:56:57] jung1 : 7am in europe [2016-06-21 04:57:39] jung1 : we can go back to 730-40 [2016-06-21 04:58:12] jung1 : The single smartest thing Bitfinex did (whether on purpose or by happenstance) was to stay down until the other exchanges exhausted all the sell pressure and rebounded. I think that, more than any other factor, is what averted disaster. Everyone (myself included) wanted them to come right back up after they went down the second time, but that would have likely continued the margin call cascade down hundreds of dollars. By waiting until the rest of the market equalized (and higher than their last posted price of $700, to boot), they averted further disaster. We'll be a bit froggish for a while from here on out, but with sell pressure mostly petered out by this point I think we'll manage to stay above $700 moving forward. [2016-06-21 04:59:03] 1QaZxSw2 : well, what if market had stayed down or gone further [2016-06-21 04:59:20] 1QaZxSw2 : then even more people would be f___d and bitfinex would probably shut down [2016-06-21 04:59:29] 1QaZxSw2 : this all worked out but it was mostly luck [2016-06-21 04:59:31] jung1 : worth it [2016-06-21 05:01:16] Johnster : How is the liquidity here guys? What is the spread like? [2016-06-21 05:01:34] jung1 : depends [2016-06-21 05:01:37] jung1 : but cant complain [2016-06-21 05:01:46] Rado : Jung1 correction doesn't end in one day [2016-06-21 05:01:56] jung1 : MM do good job here [2016-06-21 05:01:58] Rado : if you are scalping is ok [2016-06-21 05:01:58] micmix : Johnster: on XBTUSD liquidity is good, you can open 100k+ positions [2016-06-21 05:02:26] Johnster : 100K represents how many BTC? [2016-06-21 05:02:42] micmix : 100,000 US dollars [2016-06-21 05:03:11] Johnster : Oh... you we're talking USD, I thought contracts... [2016-06-21 05:03:30] Rado : Bioth [2016-06-21 05:03:33] micmix : 1 contract is 1 USD [2016-06-21 05:03:43] Johnster : 1 contract = 1 USD ... LOL [2016-06-21 05:04:07] Johnster : Are we on tradingview yet? [2016-06-21 05:04:15] micmix : spread was better when volatility was lower [2016-06-21 05:04:40] Johnster : How did you guys roll through the BFX outage? [2016-06-21 05:05:07] Johnster : Cross margin is 50x again? [2016-06-21 05:06:19] jung1 : yes but contract is perpetual [2016-06-21 05:06:33] jung1 : so you can open now and clos at 2k in 6 month from now [2016-06-21 05:15:58] Rado : June lost all the premium [2016-06-21 05:16:10] Rado : I covered to early [2016-06-21 05:16:21] elmorte : Rado: I didnt short at all :*( [2016-06-21 05:16:37] elmorte : Covered Sept too early though [2016-06-21 05:16:39] Rado : :( [2016-06-21 05:16:47] elmorte : But lucky it covered at all... [2016-06-21 05:17:24] Rado : I was posting about June for a couple of days [2016-06-21 05:17:33] Rado : 800 was too high [2016-06-21 05:18:05] Rado : and there was a bearish divergence [2016-06-21 05:18:13] jung1 : finex could push price up today [2016-06-21 05:18:40] Rado : Nah [2016-06-21 05:18:53] Rado : 720 max [2016-06-21 05:22:56] jung1 : 720-740 [2016-06-21 05:33:05] wurstgelee : wow. that daily chart surely looked great :D :D :D [2016-06-21 05:33:18] wurstgelee : @ rapidtrades ofc [2016-06-21 05:37:14] jung1 : china on way back to 4800 [2016-06-21 05:39:02] elmorte : china depth charts pretty even [2016-06-21 05:43:33] jung1 : or not : / [2016-06-21 05:52:03] elmorte : on the bullish side if anything...am I reading it right? [2016-06-21 05:52:22] elmorte : Okc and Huob! ones [2016-06-21 05:53:16] jung1 : even finex is bullish https://bfxdata.com/sentiment/longshort [2016-06-21 06:16:07] jung1 : elmorte: you are long or still wait? [2016-06-21 06:16:22] elmorte : wait [2016-06-21 06:16:28] elmorte : .... [2016-06-21 06:17:26] elmorte : what in the....we went up to 750 when finex opened??? [2016-06-21 06:18:11] jung1 : someone have fat fingers [2016-06-21 06:18:15] j8 : yes. got some filled at 730 [2016-06-21 06:31:00] j8 : jung1: the stats on longs opened are way off because a lot of people had their loans closed and reopened during the downtime (for some reason) [2016-06-21 06:35:21] jung1 : maybe too soon for recover [2016-06-21 06:45:28] elmorte : my ticker widget just informed me that bitfinex price < 733 :) [2016-06-21 06:47:06] jung1 : 705 [2016-06-21 06:48:03] jung1 : but we already hit strongest support line at 650 [2016-06-21 06:49:54] jung1 : finex 710 [2016-06-21 06:51:08] elmorte : China not moving yet... [2016-06-21 06:51:57] jung1 : 20y [2016-06-21 06:52:04] jung1 : its something [2016-06-21 06:52:11] elmorte : I suppose [2016-06-21 06:52:37] jung1 : finex 714 [2016-06-21 06:53:14] elmorte : What's up with our mark? [2016-06-21 06:54:24] Bacon futures trader : Meanwhile at btce lol .. [2016-06-21 06:55:17] elmorte : Just $30? They've had worse :) [2016-06-21 06:57:09] jung1 : When auction at Australia ends? [2016-06-21 07:06:02] elmorte : 48 hrs [2016-06-21 07:06:18] elmorte : so in about 10 hrs I think [2016-06-21 07:09:01] elmorte : 7hrs more like it [2016-06-21 07:10:21] jung1 : so maybe finex want to win this auction and they try to dump price? [2016-06-21 07:10:40] jung1 : :) [2016-06-21 07:11:34] rapidtrades : btce $684 [2016-06-21 07:17:37] jung1 : even bearstamp 710 [2016-06-21 07:17:49] jung1 : up we go [2016-06-21 07:43:05] rapidtrades : are ppl withdrawing from finex? [2016-06-21 07:43:14] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: how sexy does the daily look now? :p [2016-06-21 07:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 15 @ 0.01624 [2016-06-21 07:46:22] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: it looks fine [2016-06-21 07:46:49] wurstgelee : at least u went from great to fine ;) [2016-06-21 07:46:52] wurstgelee : it doesnt tho [2016-06-21 07:46:55] wurstgelee : :D [2016-06-21 07:48:07] rapidtrades : ur right...i see one small red candle and one medium sized red candle....time to PAnIcK [2016-06-21 07:48:21] rapidtrades : SELL EVERYTHING [2016-06-21 07:49:56] rapidtrades : sept still very overpriced [2016-06-21 07:50:28] rapidtrades : spot fell $60 it fell $50 or smth [2016-06-21 07:51:18] elmorte : rapidtrades: thanks for making me short Sept last night....cushioned the blow from the swap a bit [2016-06-21 07:52:07] BigDeadPool : if I go 100x with 1 btc [2016-06-21 07:52:10] elmorte : Wtf June.... [2016-06-21 07:52:16] BigDeadPool : what would be my [2016-06-21 07:52:20] BigDeadPool : liq price ? [2016-06-21 07:52:21] elmorte : It [2016-06-21 07:52:23] elmorte : would [2016-06-21 07:52:32] elmorte : be [2016-06-21 07:52:33] BitMEX_Wally : BigDeadPool: 0.50% away from your entry price [2016-06-21 07:52:37] elmorte : impossible [2016-06-21 07:52:43] BitMEX_Wally : `XBJ24H` has 100x [2016-06-21 07:52:51] elmorte : buzzkill :p [2016-06-21 07:53:16] BigDeadPool : so how much margin is safe ? [2016-06-21 07:53:33] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoin has moved 8% today [2016-06-21 07:53:37] BitMEX_Wally : So try 10x to start [2016-06-21 07:53:59] BigDeadPool : yup [2016-06-21 07:54:18] BigDeadPool : it is good not be overleveraged [2016-06-21 07:56:04] rapidtrades : should finex rly be trading on par with other exchanges after last night's fiasco [2016-06-21 07:56:23] elmorte : it's all fair in war & crypto [2016-06-21 07:57:05] rapidtrades : it's impossible for them to fix such a major issue in 8 hrs, they will go down again [2016-06-21 07:57:18] elmorte : if it indeed was a major issue... [2016-06-21 07:57:41] rapidtrades : yeah site was out for >8 hrs so yeah major [2016-06-21 07:58:09] elmorte : site can be out for many reasons [2016-06-21 07:58:16] elmorte : not necessarily technical [2016-06-21 08:00:42] rapidtrades : it was technical [2016-06-21 08:01:34] rapidtrades : that balance display bug is still there [2016-06-21 08:02:02] BitMEX_Wally : They said `It's a networking issue within our datacenter` [2016-06-21 08:04:34] elmorte : Y'all know what I'm subtly insinuating :p [2016-06-21 08:06:31] elmorte : Closed my long....this is teetering on disaster... [2016-06-21 08:09:07] rapidtrades : lol [2016-06-21 08:09:41] rapidtrades : 1 red bar and everyone loses their shit [2016-06-21 08:11:07] rapidtrades : hey my tradable balance in finex should be 3x my net balance right [2016-06-21 08:11:22] rapidtrades : like exactly 3x right [2016-06-21 08:13:44] j8 : no [2016-06-21 08:13:58] rapidtrades : how much is it then [2016-06-21 08:14:16] j8 : well it's 30% initial margin so 3.333x for one thing [2016-06-21 08:14:24] rapidtrades : k [2016-06-21 08:15:36] j8 : but i think they do some funny things if you use btc as margin, it seems like less leverage [2016-06-21 08:16:17] rapidtrades : no its the display bug [2016-06-21 08:17:06] rapidtrades : i moved some coins to exchange and it added 2 btc in there while putting me at -1 btc in trading [2016-06-21 08:17:21] j8 : thats another issue [2016-06-21 08:17:58] rapidtrades : it's the same issue....cos the negative btc is whats' lowering my leverage [2016-06-21 08:19:30] j8 : i dunno, everything is messed today. all the margin funding too [2016-06-21 08:20:15] rapidtrades : great...cunts [2016-06-21 08:20:53] j8 : okc is still worse [2016-06-21 08:21:51] rapidtrades : it's a close call tbh [2016-06-21 08:22:13] rapidtrades : one is manipulating the market, at the other u can't trade the mark [2016-06-21 08:22:28] Adura : Bitfinex, more like shitfinex. [2016-06-21 08:22:33] rapidtrades : et....lag still a problem here [2016-06-21 08:23:14] jung1 : why price drop here?ere will be 4900 in moment on huobi th [2016-06-21 08:24:58] j8 : who knows [2016-06-21 08:29:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 1 @ 74637.0 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-21 08:30:08] jung1 : [*] [2016-06-21 08:41:53] jung1 : 4800 [2016-06-21 08:48:09] haxmb : shitfinex agreed [2016-06-21 08:48:39] haxmb : very profitable though [2016-06-21 08:48:58] haxmb : whoever just tried to buy $10 above it [2016-06-21 08:56:31] asdfman : XBTUSD higher than XBTM16 [2016-06-21 09:04:42] BitMEX_Wally : Quanto risk premium :) [2016-06-21 09:11:06] rapidtrades : ffs [2016-06-21 09:11:31] rapidtrades : this site is dumb [2016-06-21 09:13:27] micmix : finex websocket down for my bots [2016-06-21 09:15:10] rapidtrades : yep site down [2016-06-21 09:15:37] rapidtrades : this is a joke [2016-06-21 09:15:46] micmix : connected again but something is not working right [2016-06-21 09:15:52] rapidtrades : this whole space needs to be sued out of existence [2016-06-21 09:17:16] rapidtrades : no trades in 6 mins its f*cked again [2016-06-21 09:17:19] rapidtrades : this is unreal [2016-06-21 09:17:34] rapidtrades : guess i called it earlier but f*ck.... [2016-06-21 09:22:49] Bacon futures trader : We will be taking down the trading engine momentarily. We are doing everything we can to get back up and running. Will continue updating. [2016-06-21 09:22:56] Bacon futures trader : bitfinex down again confirmed [2016-06-21 09:25:27] elmorte : That oughta inspire confidence... [2016-06-21 09:26:57] elmorte : it's OK it was SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE [2016-06-21 09:29:24] Tetsuo : LMAO [2016-06-21 09:30:19] keith : We are not confident in the network stability of our datacenter so we have elected to take trading down for the time being. [2016-06-21 09:30:24] keith : fuck it [2016-06-21 09:30:47] keith : fuuuuuuuuck [2016-06-21 09:31:10] Bora : I'm not familiar with quanto [2016-06-21 09:33:23] BitMEX_Wally : Bora: If you are long quanto and the price rises 10% then you get a 10% return in Bitcoin, but in dollar terms this is a 11% return. This is why the price is higher [2016-06-21 09:35:04] leetsp33ch : the ltcbtc index should be moved to btc-e instead of finex [2016-06-21 09:36:18] rapidtrades : ^^^ [2016-06-21 09:36:35] BitMEX_Wally : leetsp33ch: We will move it to Poloniex if Bitfinex remain down [2016-06-21 09:36:50] keith : stupid finex [2016-06-21 09:36:54] rapidtrades : cunts [2016-06-21 09:37:50] leetsp33ch : poloniex barely has buy support, the price therefore could violently spike down on a 50btc dump [2016-06-21 09:38:40] rapidtrades : i requested pass change 2 days ago so my finex funds are now locked for 5 days [2016-06-21 09:38:42] rapidtrades : fml [2016-06-21 09:38:44] rapidtrades : FML [2016-06-21 09:39:39] rapidtrades : apparently there's no way to disable that...why? cos f*ck u that's why [2016-06-21 09:40:55] leetsp33ch : regarding ltc: why don't u guys take the average of finex/btce/poloniex? one stops trading, the index price remains 'sane' [2016-06-21 09:41:51] BitMEX_Wally : We'd rather use a third party index [2016-06-21 09:52:28] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: Bitmex should create a special market "The Halving" that mature on on halving block number [2016-06-21 10:02:02] elmorte : oooh....interesting [2016-06-21 10:06:35] BitMEX_Wally : leetsp33ch: I am failing `.LTCXBT` over to Poloniex [2016-06-21 10:12:29] leetsp33ch : poloniex has thin books - 100btc to .003 [2016-06-21 10:12:29] leetsp33ch : btc-e has 170btc to 0.007 [2016-06-21 10:13:00] leetsp33ch : polo has lower volume, if someone dumps ltc there all your customers will be screwed :D [2016-06-21 10:13:57] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: since you work there, wtf is going on at finex? [2016-06-21 10:18:06] Bora : BitMEX_Wally: thanks [2016-06-21 10:20:04] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Over at Bitfinex we're having problems communicating with the datacenter team because we don't know the right terminology [2016-06-21 10:20:29] elmorte : Give me their number, I'll call [2016-06-21 10:20:35] rapidtrades : WAT [2016-06-21 10:20:44] rapidtrades : THEY CAN NOT BE SRS [2016-06-21 10:21:09] elmorte : rapidtrades: I know right, like they have humans in a datacenter [2016-06-21 10:22:05] rapidtrades : did they actually say that [2016-06-21 10:22:14] rapidtrades : we need to form a suing union [2016-06-21 10:22:16] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah they have humans, but they tell us it's a network issue so we've phoned up our hosting provider who said ???? [2016-06-21 10:22:17] elmorte : FOr the earlier outage, yeah [2016-06-21 10:22:36] BitMEX_Wally : Apparently we host our own servers [2016-06-21 10:22:50] elmorte : Maybe ???? coz it was in Unicode... [2016-06-21 10:24:33] subjective : WTF BFX down again? [2016-06-21 10:24:54] BitMEX_Wally : https://bitfinex.statuspage.io [2016-06-21 10:25:02] elmorte : Eth > 1700 [2016-06-21 10:25:04] elmorte : damn... [2016-06-21 10:26:36] ayy_lmao : stamp 700 [2016-06-21 10:27:47] rapidtrades : this is a f disaster [2016-06-21 10:29:09] elmorte : eth pumping...shit's upside down [2016-06-21 10:30:11] macios15 : nice [2016-06-21 10:30:16] rapidtrades : this is crypto in a nutshell.... [2016-06-21 10:30:16] ayy_lmao : whale just market sold lmao [2016-06-21 10:30:24] ayy_lmao : to 682 [2016-06-21 10:30:48] elmorte : ayy_lmao: at where? [2016-06-21 10:30:55] elmorte : Ohhh... [2016-06-21 10:30:56] ayy_lmao : here [2016-06-21 10:30:57] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-21 10:31:01] elmorte : Sorry, was looking at eth chart [2016-06-21 10:31:07] ayy_lmao : oh sry xbt [2016-06-21 10:31:10] jesperf : sometimes it's best just to kick back, pop a beer open and watch the madness [2016-06-21 10:31:16] Bacon futures trader : lol, nice liquidriy [2016-06-21 10:31:23] elmorte : man, should always have like a crazy opportunistic long and short open... [2016-06-21 10:31:39] haxmb : cheers for that dum [2016-06-21 10:31:39] haxmb : dump [2016-06-21 10:31:54] haxmb : bought 695 and 6818) [2016-06-21 10:31:57] haxmb : 681* [2016-06-21 10:31:58] haxmb : 8) [2016-06-21 10:32:02] ayy_lmao : nice [2016-06-21 10:32:05] elmorte : over 50k contracts... [2016-06-21 10:32:19] haxmb : 70 btc [2016-06-21 10:32:21] haxmb : nothing big [2016-06-21 10:32:31] elmorte : No, but I would like some [2016-06-21 10:32:34] elmorte : pls [2016-06-21 10:33:25] mrp1nk : wow [2016-06-21 10:33:39] keith : Wally, can I confirm you have failed over the LTC to POLO? [2016-06-21 10:33:49] mrp1nk : i closed my long 15 min. before bfx went up again and now i see this dumperino [2016-06-21 10:33:53] keith : BitMEX_Wally: [2016-06-21 10:34:02] BitMEX_Wally : keith: Yes [2016-06-21 10:34:13] keith : BitMEX_Wally: cool thanks [2016-06-21 10:34:21] mrp1nk : #jung1knew :-) [2016-06-21 10:34:39] BitMEX_Wally : keith: You can check the `reference` and `referenceSymbol` fields on the `.LTCXBT` instrument [2016-06-21 10:36:45] rapidtrades : peeps need to chill the f out [2016-06-21 10:38:20] Bacon futures trader : I guess that guy that was bidding 714 got liquidated right there [2016-06-21 10:38:44] subjective : This is whale action at it's best, DDOS + Dump [2016-06-21 10:39:00] rapidtrades : subjective: there is no DDOS [2016-06-21 10:39:16] Bacon futures trader : lol [2016-06-21 10:39:43] subjective : rapidtrades: well, someone unplugged their network cable then [2016-06-21 10:40:02] elmorte : subjective: haha, that's what I thought. Check your cables damnit [2016-06-21 10:40:42] subjective : without BFX, how does Bitmex get Mark price [2016-06-21 10:41:15] elmorte : They're supposed to fall over to Stamp [2016-06-21 10:41:22] elmorte : but obv not at the moment [2016-06-21 10:41:33] rapidtrades : hope not, stamp is a lil bitch [2016-06-21 10:41:43] elmorte : nah, for real rapid [2016-06-21 10:41:53] rapidtrades : 4real [2016-06-21 10:42:08] elmorte : neva lie2u [2016-06-21 10:42:50] subjective : Would be pissed to wake up to this, "I thought they were up?", "Bro, it went down again" [2016-06-21 10:42:51] rapidtrades : get f*ucked by 2 elephants simultaneously elmorte [2016-06-21 10:42:58] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-21 10:43:04] ayy_lmao : savage [2016-06-21 10:43:11] elmorte : rapidtrades: you have two moms? [2016-06-21 10:43:11] BitMEX_Wally : We are still using the Kaiko index which is 50% Bitfinex, 34% OKC, 16% Bitstamp [2016-06-21 10:43:30] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: thx [2016-06-21 10:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : If Bitfinex does not come back up then Kaiko will de-weight them to 0% [2016-06-21 10:44:01] men : 692 coinbase [2016-06-21 10:44:19] elmorte : now's the time to sell at BTC-E [2016-06-21 10:44:30] men : 689 coinbase xD [2016-06-21 10:44:50] subjective : BTC-E 672 [2016-06-21 10:45:08] elmorte : Yup, only ~17 discount...it will go to 30 [2016-06-21 10:45:20] elmorte : then you buy and send back [2016-06-21 10:46:16] rapidtrades : china 724 ppl [2016-06-21 10:46:26] rapidtrades : keep panicking [2016-06-21 10:46:35] rapidtrades : remember yday? [2016-06-21 10:46:50] gustavo7 : china don't count /srcsm [2016-06-21 10:46:55] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: when u said the daily chart looks great? and i said it doesnt? [2016-06-21 10:46:58] wurstgelee : yes, i remember that [2016-06-21 10:47:03] subjective : Chinese must be piss, "Amercian, can't do network 美國不能做網絡" [2016-06-21 10:47:10] elmorte : rapidtrades has selective memory :) [2016-06-21 10:50:02] rapidtrades : elephants have excellent memory tho elmorte [2016-06-21 10:51:07] rapidtrades : like i was saying, yday the fall on USD sites was bigger then the fall in okc quaterly [2016-06-21 10:51:14] rapidtrades : let that shit sink in [2016-06-21 10:52:44] elmorte : Never said your mom mated with her own kind... [2016-06-21 10:52:51] rapidtrades : china doesn't care about ur min freakouts [2016-06-21 10:54:18] elmorte : Bots are probably the most sensitive to price changes...now the Chinese had great coders but the rest probably has more resources to deploy the bots [2016-06-21 10:54:23] elmorte : have* [2016-06-21 10:54:45] elmorte : just pulled that way outta my ass... [2016-06-21 10:55:06] rapidtrades : to let elephants n2 in, no doubt [2016-06-21 10:55:18] elmorte : some of your mom's hair in there too... [2016-06-21 10:55:32] elmorte : mustache hair [2016-06-21 10:55:44] rapidtrades : is GDAX levereged [2016-06-21 10:55:50] elmorte : I'm disgusting myself....truce? [2016-06-21 10:57:41] subjective : down we go [2016-06-21 10:58:51] elmorte : Bringing up yer mom makes me wanna vomit... [2016-06-21 10:59:05] rapidtrades : $726 china,,,sure down we go [2016-06-21 11:01:18] subjective : rapidtrades: yep, china has a nice rising wedge. [2016-06-21 11:03:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19312 @ 704.48 [2016-06-21 11:03:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22 @ 704.44 [2016-06-21 11:04:21] subjective : stamp 692 [2016-06-21 11:05:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 629 @ 704.25 [2016-06-21 11:05:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9000 @ 703.58 [2016-06-21 11:08:01] subjective : rapidtrades: sure [2016-06-21 11:08:10] ayy_lmao : 687 stamp [2016-06-21 11:09:06] rapidtrades : china $725, barely moved [2016-06-21 11:09:12] rapidtrades : keep freaking out [2016-06-21 11:09:20] ayy_lmao : *profiting [2016-06-21 11:10:15] subjective : ayy_lmao: nice, should've short. [2016-06-21 11:10:37] ayy_lmao : i am? [2016-06-21 11:11:00] ayy_lmao : oh, you mean yourself? [2016-06-21 11:11:29] subjective : stamp 684, china not hot ether REKT coming [2016-06-21 11:12:31] arbitrage001 : howdy [2016-06-21 11:12:44] arbitrage001 : so, no dpe so far, good news [2016-06-21 11:13:26] elmorte : arbitrage001: sup dude [2016-06-21 11:13:32] arbitrage001 : elmorte: hey [2016-06-21 11:13:49] blackwhite : If swap is at 692 and stamp at 684, does it mean next funding will be paying shorts 1.1%? [2016-06-21 11:13:49] arbitrage001 : elmorte: are you in KL? [2016-06-21 11:13:53] elmorte : yup [2016-06-21 11:14:01] arbitrage001 : elmorte: know any hot girl? [2016-06-21 11:14:09] arbitrage001 : looking for gilfriend [2016-06-21 11:14:13] BitMEX_Wally : Predicted Funding: 0.1586% in 9 hours [2016-06-21 11:14:17] elmorte : blackwhite: impossible, max is current + 0.375% [2016-06-21 11:14:48] blackwhite : but it counts against stamp now, right? and then limits with current+max [2016-06-21 11:14:49] elmorte : arbitrage001: hahaha.... [2016-06-21 11:15:06] arbitrage001 : elmorte: you married? or single [2016-06-21 11:15:15] elmorte : married bud [2016-06-21 11:15:17] arbitrage001 : where do you hang out mostly [2016-06-21 11:15:30] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: You can see the Premium Index here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI [2016-06-21 11:15:31] arbitrage001 : i am still new to pub scene [2016-06-21 11:15:33] elmorte : Used to be Zouk, then Changkat...then house parties...then house... [2016-06-21 11:15:42] blackwhite : what are the plans for future marking? will it be single stamp or weighted with something [2016-06-21 11:15:42] arbitrage001 : i see [2016-06-21 11:15:45] elmorte : pub scene, Plaza Damansara is good [2016-06-21 11:15:47] arbitrage001 : zouk expensive? [2016-06-21 11:15:54] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Kaiko will go to 50% OKC and 50% Bistamp [2016-06-21 11:15:56] joshuaf15 : why bitcoin is going down? does it has correlation with ETH?? [2016-06-21 11:15:56] arbitrage001 : cuz i am a dirt poor person [2016-06-21 11:16:01] elmorte : Old Zouk, haven't been to the new one [2016-06-21 11:16:10] arbitrage001 : how much it cost usually [2016-06-21 11:16:34] elmorte : Cover used to be around RM30-50, but if you know someone, you'll get on the guest list [2016-06-21 11:16:38] elmorte : Beer prob around RM20 [2016-06-21 11:16:44] blackwhite : .XBTUSDPI can't be correct, it is negative now while premium is positive [2016-06-21 11:16:45] arbitrage001 : i see [2016-06-21 11:16:51] elmorte : But I haven't been since they relocated [2016-06-21 11:16:55] arbitrage001 : thought it is a lot expensive [2016-06-21 11:17:00] elmorte : Pubs are more my jam now... [2016-06-21 11:17:14] arbitrage001 : so i just go there and pick up girl? [2016-06-21 11:17:21] arbitrage001 : lol [2016-06-21 11:17:28] elmorte : No, that's beach club... [2016-06-21 11:17:28] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Why do you think the premium is positive? The bid is 691.25 and .XBT is 699.37. I'd call that a discount [2016-06-21 11:17:42] elmorte : Bring RM400 :) [2016-06-21 11:17:51] elmorte : She love ya long time :) [2016-06-21 11:17:56] elmorte : or for the night at least [2016-06-21 11:18:07] arbitrage001 : expensive [2016-06-21 11:18:29] blackwhite : because stamp is not 699.37 [2016-06-21 11:18:34] elmorte : Can go upwards of RMB2000 in China... [2016-06-21 11:18:44] joshuaf15 : look for xbx index price @684usd [2016-06-21 11:18:48] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: The `.XBT` index from Kaiko is currently 700.10 [2016-06-21 11:18:48] elmorte : But yeah...that's kinda where you take your clients [2016-06-21 11:18:58] arbitrage001 : cheaper to stay at home and watch porn [2016-06-21 11:19:04] elmorte : Much cheaper [2016-06-21 11:19:17] blackwhite : your email on canging swap was misleading then [2016-06-21 11:21:15] elmorte : arbitrage001: changkat is probably the best place at the moment [2016-06-21 11:21:27] arbitrage001 : elmorte: how so [2016-06-21 11:21:27] elmorte : How old are you? [2016-06-21 11:21:33] arbitrage001 : almost 40 [2016-06-21 11:21:36] elmorte : Most happening [2016-06-21 11:21:49] elmorte : Try Havana bar then [2016-06-21 11:21:52] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: How was the email misleading? [2016-06-21 11:22:02] elmorte : But yeah...mahal [2016-06-21 11:22:21] arbitrage001 : lots of young girls? [2016-06-21 11:22:33] blackwhite : "If trading has not resumed for Bitcoin / USD on Bitfinex by 21 June 2016 04:30 UTC (approximately 1 hour from now), the underlying index for all BitMEX Bitcoin / USD products will become the Bitstamp Bitcoin / USD price. " [2016-06-21 11:22:39] elmorte : When it's not a school nite [2016-06-21 11:23:06] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Bitfinex resumed at 04:00 UTC so no change was made [2016-06-21 11:23:23] arbitrage001 : finex still down [2016-06-21 11:23:29] blackwhite : did it? I saw it only proposed to cancel orders... [2016-06-21 11:23:34] elmorte : blackwhite: that was for the earlier outage....they went down again after that [2016-06-21 11:23:38] arbitrage001 : glad i made withdraw, their system is a mess lol [2016-06-21 11:23:48] elmorte : I didn't...but I might after this one [2016-06-21 11:24:03] arbitrage001 : interest was 0.78 when i check my account [2016-06-21 11:24:04] BitMEX_Wally : They were up from 04:00 UTC to 09:15 UTC [2016-06-21 11:24:15] arbitrage001 : people going to complain when it is up again [2016-06-21 11:24:18] blackwhite : damn. how can i figure it out when I'm nt finex official? I saw them down that's all and i expect stamp price here... [2016-06-21 11:24:26] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: https://bitfinex.statuspage.io [2016-06-21 11:24:40] BitMEX_Wally : We sent out a tweet saying that Bitfinex were up and no change was being made on BitMEX [2016-06-21 11:24:43] blackwhite : you should have sent new email then saying there is no change [2016-06-21 11:24:55] BitMEX_Wally : The email said "If" [2016-06-21 11:25:00] subjective : another rising wedge on stamp, down or reverse? [2016-06-21 11:25:20] arbitrage001 : have a feeling price going to drop to stamp price right after funding [2016-06-21 11:25:51] blackwhite : and then it should say "finex is up, it's over" [2016-06-21 11:26:16] blackwhite : how kaiko is calculated if finex is down? [2016-06-21 11:26:22] Bacon futures trader : China still at 720$ [2016-06-21 11:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : They use the last traded price [2016-06-21 11:26:32] Bacon futures trader : Just buy if we flash [2016-06-21 11:27:10] BitMEX_Wally : If Bitfinex are not trading again by 12:30 UTC then Kaiko will switch the weights to 50% OKC and 50% Bitstamp. [2016-06-21 11:27:17] BitMEX_Wally : We will send out an announcement shortly [2016-06-21 11:28:05] asdfman : s o1h? [2016-06-21 11:28:10] asdfman : so about 1h ? [2016-06-21 11:28:17] blackwhite : "If" there appear for a minute and go down again, people like me will be fooled again? [2016-06-21 11:28:36] blackwhite : Send more info. [2016-06-21 11:28:38] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: Not if you stay in the trollbox [2016-06-21 11:28:43] subjective : blackwhite: u just wake up? [2016-06-21 11:28:59] blackwhite : nope [2016-06-21 11:30:00] subjective : avg price 701 > 699.. pretty happy about that [2016-06-21 11:30:48] bobo : Wally, is the current index correct? [2016-06-21 11:30:48] blackwhite : i trade for 2 hours today looking at stamp [2016-06-21 11:32:06] blackwhite : small amount. but confusion still [2016-06-21 11:32:41] subjective : @arbitrage001 why does it drop after funding? [2016-06-21 11:33:17] bobo : but for now people with shorts are screwed because of this... [2016-06-21 11:33:19] BitMEX_Wally : blackwhite: your PNL is determined by your entry and exit price, not the index [2016-06-21 11:33:34] wurstgelee : liquidation is tho ;9 [2016-06-21 11:33:38] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-06-21 11:33:39] arbitrage001 : subjective: because that is the market price [2016-06-21 11:33:51] messiaen8844 : once bitfinex is back, will it be weigthed again on the price? [2016-06-21 11:33:57] markimarki : now the index for xbtusd markets are fixed? [2016-06-21 11:34:09] men : gdax is down? [2016-06-21 11:34:23] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex [2016-06-21 11:34:48] men : no its only huge lag [2016-06-21 11:35:21] subjective : stamp is looking for another move shortly [2016-06-21 11:35:36] bobo : why not remove bitfinex immediately once it's offline.. this is not crrect wally [2016-06-21 11:35:53] markimarki : BitMEX_Wally: i mean bitfinex is down so it will be fixed for only bitstamp and okcoin [2016-06-21 11:35:54] markimarki : ? [2016-06-21 11:36:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 161684 @ 697.82 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-06-21 11:37:16] ayy_lmao : heh [2016-06-21 11:37:22] arbitrage001 : now that will take a while to clear [2016-06-21 11:37:25] elmorte : Well....it saved him from liqn this long... [2016-06-21 11:38:02] BitMEX_Wally : markimarki: Kaiko are currently using the last traded price of Bitfinex as 50% of the index [2016-06-21 11:38:18] subjective : BitMEX_Wally: so once its's updated. REKT [2016-06-21 11:38:20] BitMEX_Wally : this will become 0% if they are still down at 12:30 UTC [2016-06-21 11:38:39] markimarki : in an hour? [2016-06-21 11:38:45] bobo : Why not RIGHT NOW? [2016-06-21 11:38:51] ayy_lmao : stamp new lows [2016-06-21 11:38:55] Pedro : china holding like its nothing [2016-06-21 11:39:06] bobo : Why use an incorrect index from bitfinex.. ? [2016-06-21 11:39:18] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2016-06-21 11:40:22] ayy_lmao : shoutout to the liq order [2016-06-21 11:40:54] markimarki : that will lower the price [2016-06-21 11:40:59] arbitrage001 : some whale [2016-06-21 11:41:05] arbitrage001 : wish i have the capital to short just now [2016-06-21 11:41:10] BitMEX_Wally : We are giving at least an hour's notice of any changes to the index [2016-06-21 11:41:18] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: it will affect funding too...