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[2016-06-20 14:00:51] Rado : or BTC
[2016-06-20 14:01:45] Speran49 : Can anyone explain to me why my only says +.09 but my raw shows -.016??
[2016-06-20 14:01:57] Tedy : BTC
[2016-06-20 14:02:07] Speran49 : My PNL*** not only
[2016-06-20 14:02:31] Tedy : Speran49: market price is different from the buy price you see hete
[2016-06-20 14:02:57] Speran49 : So did I make.money or lose money on the short? This is very strange
[2016-06-20 14:03:26] BitMEX_Wally : Speran49: The 'Realised PNL' shown in the Open Positions tab is cumulative. If you hover over it then it just shows the PNL in the last 24 hours
[2016-06-20 14:03:26] Speran49 : I open at 763 and close at 750 but still lose money?
[2016-06-20 14:03:47] arbitrage001 : party time
[2016-06-20 14:03:51] arbitrage001 : short short
[2016-06-20 14:05:21] Speran49 : I'm looking at the closed trade and it says realised PNL +.09 and RAW realised PNL -.016 so how did that happen? It seems I did lose money instead of making as I should have...
[2016-06-20 14:06:16] BitMEX_Wally : 0.09 XBT is over the lifetime of all your XBTUSD trading
[2016-06-20 14:07:22] Speran49 : Yes but on just this trade. Why did I lose money? I traded in the correct direction and closed at what should have been a profit
[2016-06-20 14:07:23] BitMEX_Wally : The -0.0146303 is from the last hour and half, i.e the PNL from the rebalance price of 743.51 to your exit price of 750.5. Plus the funding you received
[2016-06-20 14:08:07] Speran49 : Does this happen often?
[2016-06-20 14:08:17] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalancing happens every 24 hours
[2016-06-20 14:08:44] Speran49 : And so my loss is primarily caused by the rebalancing? If I'd sold below 743 I'd have made a profit?
[2016-06-20 14:08:58] BitMEX_Wally : The profit from your entry price 762.00 to the rebalance price of 743.51 plus the funding you received was included in yesterday's rebalance and has been paid into your wallet
[2016-06-20 14:09:34] Speran49 : Hmm is there anywhere I can see a detailed breakdown of all these transaction?
[2016-06-20 14:09:45] Speran49 : I see history but it is very general...
[2016-06-20 14:09:53] Rado : in trade history
[2016-06-20 14:09:56] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-06-20 14:10:09] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-20 14:13:10] Speran49 : Trades don't give any relation to total acct value. Wallet just seems to be going down randomly.
[2016-06-20 14:13:17] Speran49 : Anyway to better relate the two?
[2016-06-20 14:13:37] BitMEX_Wally : Speran49: We are working on exposing a trade history with PNL, in the mean time I can email it to you
[2016-06-20 14:13:58] BitMEX_Wally : Email me support@bitmex.com and I'll reply ASAP with the data
[2016-06-20 14:14:10] Speran49 : That would be great. I want to jsut see if I want from .06 to .11 to .1 finally
[2016-06-20 14:15:17] stf28 : hi there, happy to see i'm not the only one asking for more readable history :)
[2016-06-20 14:15:37] Speran49 : Email sent
[2016-06-20 14:16:24] stf28 : you guys have seen how it's on kraken? all trades, balance, available with detailed execution information, less easy to read than history here but with such products customers here should'nt be afraid of detailed information
[2016-06-20 14:17:00] Speran49 : I just want to see fees/cost + total wallet balance after every trade
[2016-06-20 14:17:06] Speran49 : That's all haha
[2016-06-20 14:20:39] Rado : no rekt going on right now
[2016-06-20 14:20:49] Rado : interesting
[2016-06-20 14:22:23] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: charts are not loading
[2016-06-20 14:22:26] Rado : is it only me?
[2016-06-20 14:23:13] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Yes, working fine here - go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences and click "Clear" at the very bottom
[2016-06-20 14:23:51] Rado : that worked
[2016-06-20 14:23:56] Rado : cleared my layout as well
[2016-06-20 14:24:00] Rado : :-)
[2016-06-20 14:24:53] BitMEX_Wally : Speran49: Sent
[2016-06-20 14:26:05] Bacon futures trader : Does adjusting leverage cost money?
[2016-06-20 14:26:47] BitMEX_Sam : Bacon futures trader: No, it only reassigns how margin is distributed
[2016-06-20 14:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20800 @ 739.93 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-20 14:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 739.32
[2016-06-20 14:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6930 @ 739.82
[2016-06-20 14:30:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 25 @ 763.20
[2016-06-20 14:30:39] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-06-20 14:30:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4500 @ 738.36
[2016-06-20 14:30:39] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 738.19
[2016-06-20 14:30:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 544 @ 737.22
[2016-06-20 14:31:27] justinlooking : btfd?
[2016-06-20 14:32:50] mrp1nk : nice discoiunt
[2016-06-20 14:32:57] mrp1nk : ups
[2016-06-20 14:33:00] mrp1nk : wrong messag
[2016-06-20 14:33:12] mrp1nk : i mean: btf!d
[2016-06-20 14:35:32] BTCDJS : Bull run cancelled huh? Clad I closed long
[2016-06-20 14:35:40] BTCDJS : glad
[2016-06-20 14:40:26] justinlooking : pretty weak sell off :/
[2016-06-20 14:47:19] BTCDJS : Maybe. If it drops bellow 710 it's over
[2016-06-20 14:49:48] elmorte : BTCDJS: one time I decided to get bullish...
[2016-06-20 14:50:59] BTCDJS : elmorte: too late to the party mate. Come back 600s
[2016-06-20 14:54:53] Rado : so painful to trade June
[2016-06-20 14:54:57] Rado : no liquidity
[2016-06-20 14:55:04] Rado : I was able to close my short
[2016-06-20 14:55:24] Rado : but better stick to swap
[2016-06-20 14:56:02] bobo : hey wally.. where is your server located?
[2016-06-20 14:56:15] bobo : country/city will do
[2016-06-20 14:56:25] justinlooking : bit more like it
[2016-06-20 14:56:29] macios15 : crash crash
[2016-06-20 14:56:38] justinlooking : bobo: think is amazon eu-west (ireland)
[2016-06-20 14:56:42] arbitrage001 : here we go again
[2016-06-20 14:56:56] arbitrage001 : glad the rekt is clear
[2016-06-20 14:59:56] bobo : justinlooking: thanks
[2016-06-20 15:00:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1002 @ 735.09
[2016-06-20 15:01:30] luckynuke : there they are
[2016-06-20 15:07:17] Rado : who is leading at th emoment
[2016-06-20 15:07:19] Rado : the
[2016-06-20 15:07:27] Rado : Bitfinex?
[2016-06-20 15:07:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7800 @ 733.64
[2016-06-20 15:07:47] aethlios : Rado: yes finex selling
[2016-06-20 15:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7 @ 733.02
[2016-06-20 15:08:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 732.09
[2016-06-20 15:08:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250000 @ 730.41 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-20 15:08:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 311 @ 730.76
[2016-06-20 15:09:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100014 @ 730.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-20 15:09:15] arbitrage001 : o no
[2016-06-20 15:09:22] rapidtrades : guys cmon...at least clear sept
[2016-06-20 15:09:23] arbitrage001 : bouce back !
[2016-06-20 15:09:26] justinlooking : ah shit
[2016-06-20 15:09:28] Tedy : Holy shit
[2016-06-20 15:09:36] rapidtrades : sept hasn't moved down $1
[2016-06-20 15:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 728.00
[2016-06-20 15:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 727.89
[2016-06-20 15:10:16] rapidtrades : seems a low volume dump no?
[2016-06-20 15:10:25] arbitrage001 : nope
[2016-06-20 15:10:27] rapidtrades : tiny liqs on okc futures
[2016-06-20 15:10:39] rapidtrades : ok one 5k just went thru
[2016-06-20 15:10:45] rapidtrades : but rest were <1k
[2016-06-20 15:10:54] arbitrage001 : did we clear the rekt?
[2016-06-20 15:10:59] justinlooking : yup
[2016-06-20 15:11:00] arbitrage001 : probably
[2016-06-20 15:11:07] arbitrage001 : ok now go down more
[2016-06-20 15:11:09] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-06-20 15:11:17] rapidtrades : guys....we fell over $40 yet sept is not moved
[2016-06-20 15:11:25] rapidtrades : can't tell u what to do but....
[2016-06-20 15:11:27] rapidtrades : ...
[2016-06-20 15:11:34] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: risk is still too high
[2016-06-20 15:11:47] rapidtrades : rimark is 952....
[2016-06-20 15:12:27] rapidtrades : don't make me sell into this myself...already have shorts in there
[2016-06-20 15:12:51] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: might as well if you are sure
[2016-06-20 15:12:58] arbitrage001 : 11% a month
[2016-06-20 15:13:20] rapidtrades : if slevver was here he would eat it whole
[2016-06-20 15:13:26] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-06-20 15:13:31] arbitrage001 : sad he is gone
[2016-06-20 15:13:36] arbitrage001 : he has the wallet
[2016-06-20 15:13:54] arbitrage001 : most here do not
[2016-06-20 15:14:05] rapidtrades : i can't clear a 48k liq myself...those contracts are btc
[2016-06-20 15:14:08] lockhedge : no open liquidation at XBTUSD https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation?count=100&start=0&reverse=false
[2016-06-20 15:14:27] arbitrage001 : wait till price hit below 700 to clear
[2016-06-20 15:14:29] stf28 : this isn't liquidation its closing contracts
[2016-06-20 15:14:31] arbitrage001 : even better
[2016-06-20 15:14:48] lockhedge : that is/was a normal limit order (or stop)
[2016-06-20 15:15:20] rapidtrades : im talking about sept
[2016-06-20 15:16:05] rapidtrades : guess it doesn't matter, i plan to hold till expiration anyway
[2016-06-20 15:16:30] rapidtrades : btc-e now at only $17 discount
[2016-06-20 15:19:45] stf28 : wow big iceberg
[2016-06-20 15:20:26] stf28 : this is contract closing
[2016-06-20 15:21:43] stf28 : 700k closed
[2016-06-20 15:21:47] rapidtrades : what ...
[2016-06-20 15:21:53] rapidtrades : that's the GUY
[2016-06-20 15:21:57] rapidtrades : THE F GUY
[2016-06-20 15:22:15] rapidtrades : the 2.6 mil chorter
[2016-06-20 15:22:26] mrp1nk : dat discount
[2016-06-20 15:22:39] mrp1nk : nice :-)
[2016-06-20 15:22:39] elmorte : which exch?
[2016-06-20 15:23:03] stf28 : rapidtrades: it was closed selling so it may have been a long
[2016-06-20 15:23:07] BitMEX_Sam : Here, nearly $5 discount on XBTUSD
[2016-06-20 15:23:37] mbaril : the 1.2 millions contract of this morning is closing
[2016-06-20 15:23:45] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: yeah... :?
[2016-06-20 15:23:48] elmorte : :/
[2016-06-20 15:24:21] stf28 : mbaril: what price did he opened?
[2016-06-20 15:24:37] elmorte : When is that auction in Australia?
[2016-06-20 15:24:54] mbaril : if my memory is good he short at 729
[2016-06-20 15:26:39] rapidtrades : man there's a LOT of buying everywhere
[2016-06-20 15:26:50] stf28 : of course we didn't break :)
[2016-06-20 15:26:54] rapidtrades : u can't knock this shit down
[2016-06-20 15:27:09] stf28 : not anymore i think
[2016-06-20 15:28:04] justinlooking : test
[2016-06-20 15:28:09] stf28 : overleveraged investors were all shaken out by last moves, if you look at 750-775 range noone can survive this ^^
[2016-06-20 15:29:53] justinlooking : stay strong elmorte
[2016-06-20 15:30:04] elmorte : justinlooking: hahaha
[2016-06-20 15:30:15] elmorte : f*ck me...
[2016-06-20 15:30:26] justinlooking : staring into abyss
[2016-06-20 15:31:08] zanza : triple top
[2016-06-20 15:33:01] jung1 : so 700 comming?
[2016-06-20 15:33:51] Rado : Almost a given at this point
[2016-06-20 15:34:11] Rado : first some dip buyers will take it back to broken support
[2016-06-20 15:35:22] elmorte : *phew*..ok, reduced my leverage by 2/3
[2016-06-20 15:35:29] Dulaobitcrazy : short btc gogogo
[2016-06-20 15:39:11] Dulaobitcrazy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NHsaxj6DRY
[2016-06-20 15:40:09] Bacon futures trader : fade it
[2016-06-20 15:41:35] rapidtrades : fade what
[2016-06-20 15:43:12] Dulaobitcrazy : GO SWAG
[2016-06-20 15:43:13] jung1 : ok lets open some shorts
[2016-06-20 15:43:20] rapidtrades : do sept
[2016-06-20 15:43:30] xzsd : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu638L-iVt8
[2016-06-20 15:44:14] Rado : 999.99 bid on Sept
[2016-06-20 15:44:35] Dulaobitcrazy : kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk xzsd
[2016-06-20 15:44:58] Dulaobitcrazy : is you crazy man??
[2016-06-20 15:45:35] Dulaobitcrazy : dao and eth are the better coins on market
[2016-06-20 15:45:49] xzsd : SURE man, keep holding this shitcoins
[2016-06-20 15:46:06] Rado : Will be easier to short Sep when we have a Dec contract
[2016-06-20 15:46:06] Dulaobitcrazy : _l_
[2016-06-20 15:46:08] elmorte : Dulaobitcrazy: I thought you were having a fit when you said "kkkkkkkkkkkkk"
[2016-06-20 15:46:20] elmorte : But now I'm sure you're having a fit
[2016-06-20 15:46:32] rapidtrades : he's a crazy eth bagholder
[2016-06-20 15:47:18] Rado : Lol
[2016-06-20 15:47:26] Dulaobitcrazy : i'm a crazy boy man
[2016-06-20 15:47:48] Dulaobitcrazy : i'm rich with eth and i go buy more
[2016-06-20 15:48:50] elmorte : DAO is where it's at man...it's a steal
[2016-06-20 15:49:14] xzsd : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZjmliqhZ-c
[2016-06-20 15:49:22] rapidtrades : elmorte: literally a steal
[2016-06-20 15:49:30] Dulaobitcrazy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3m9G4gADPQ
[2016-06-20 15:49:38] elmorte : yes, pun intended :p
[2016-06-20 15:49:41] rapidtrades : BAN LINK POSTERS
[2016-06-20 15:50:16] boolander : oh, look. it's a youtube-off
[2016-06-20 15:50:34] Dulaobitcrazy : where is the sense of humor??
[2016-06-20 15:50:52] Dulaobitcrazy : go trade
[2016-06-20 15:50:55] rapidtrades : your mom f*cked it out of me
[2016-06-20 15:51:37] Dulaobitcrazy : your mom like suck my balls dude
[2016-06-20 15:51:46] luckynuke : kek
[2016-06-20 15:52:13] rapidtrades : 3k for sale at 1000
[2016-06-20 15:52:22] rapidtrades : $260 premium
[2016-06-20 15:52:38] rapidtrades : for 3 months
[2016-06-20 15:52:55] elmorte : Unrealsed PNL on Sept is nuts...
[2016-06-20 15:53:25] elmorte : Mark just went up $40
[2016-06-20 15:53:41] rapidtrades : yeah that was stupid
[2016-06-20 15:53:45] rapidtrades : wtf bitmex
[2016-06-20 15:56:27] aethlios : opemed 5000 sept 1010, another 1020 for 5000 order
[2016-06-20 15:56:49] justinlooking : wtf?!
[2016-06-20 15:57:42] kogroken : They bumped the big liquidation up to 1020, then dropped it back to 942
[2016-06-20 15:57:53] kogroken : Someone is bored at work
[2016-06-20 15:58:06] rapidtrades : dam looks like it
[2016-06-20 15:58:32] rapidtrades : srsly bitmex stop doing shit like that
[2016-06-20 15:58:51] elmorte : Wally's on the piss again
[2016-06-20 15:58:56] kogroken : Mark price dropped to 950 again as well
[2016-06-20 15:59:01] elmorte : Damnit Wally!
[2016-06-20 15:59:25] rapidtrades : i would be pissed if that rekted me
[2016-06-20 15:59:26] lockhedge : the liquidations seems to move with the mark price which is an impact mid price, so i guess this was a robot not Wally
[2016-06-20 15:59:27] justinlooking : monkey business
[2016-06-20 15:59:29] kogroken : Not nice to shake it around $50 at a time
[2016-06-20 15:59:35] elmorte : It's like a fckin tennis match
[2016-06-20 15:59:59] elmorte : lockhedge: pics or it was Wally :p
[2016-06-20 16:00:04] jung1 : bts is going to 700
[2016-06-20 16:00:26] elmorte : from 546?
[2016-06-20 16:00:35] rapidtrades : well then sell sept u jew @jung1
[2016-06-20 16:00:53] j8 : that market's f'd, i would stay away.. 25x with a 6% spread
[2016-06-20 16:01:10] rapidtrades : point is to hold it for the sweet premium
[2016-06-20 16:01:40] elmorte : Ok, I'm out of XBTUSD...
[2016-06-20 16:01:44] aethlios : sept 1020 was nice because swap premium could become discount in a correction to 600, also we need time to fall to 600 and consolidate and again go up
[2016-06-20 16:03:29] rapidtrades : i preferred the liq at 780 tbh
[2016-06-20 16:03:44] rapidtrades : it was an easy sell in case we crash or there was some news....
[2016-06-20 16:03:52] rapidtrades : but no wally had to f*ck with it
[2016-06-20 16:05:46] Rado : Is mark affected by the trade price or just the index?
[2016-06-20 16:06:01] kogroken : Clearly not just the index
[2016-06-20 16:06:49] Rado : That's good
[2016-06-20 16:06:55] xzsd : is ENTRY price affect by closing 1/10 of position?
[2016-06-20 16:07:13] Rado : No
[2016-06-20 16:07:32] kogroken : Well. I'm not too comfortable with an exchange that changes the mark price +-$50 in 10 seconds
[2016-06-20 16:07:42] xzsd : When i close a half of my position, was showing 2 prices in Entry Price.
[2016-06-20 16:07:44] kogroken : (while index is unchanged)
[2016-06-20 16:08:45] rapidtrades : yeah that was bad
[2016-06-20 16:08:46] elmorte : xzsd: eh? Same contract?
[2016-06-20 16:08:57] BitMEX_Wally : When you hover over entry price it also explains the 2 numbers
[2016-06-20 16:09:04] elmorte : Oh...
[2016-06-20 16:09:06] BitMEX_Wally : One is the entry price, the other is the last rebalance price
[2016-06-20 16:09:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally how's it going...hope ur having a nice day. Why did you F*CK with september?
[2016-06-20 16:09:41] elmorte : heheh
[2016-06-20 16:09:47] xzsd : elmorte: yes. exemple: i have 1000XBTUSD SHORT in 800..... when the price comes to 750 i close 500XBTUSD, the lasts 500XBTUSD still in short in 800?!
[2016-06-20 16:09:51] kogroken : BitMEX_Wally: What's up with the XBTU16 mark price yo-yoing?
[2016-06-20 16:09:51] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: I have not touched XBTU16. But tell me, are you short, and if so what was your entry price?
[2016-06-20 16:10:01] rapidtrades : 502
[2016-06-20 16:10:06] rapidtrades : go nuts :)
[2016-06-20 16:10:12] BitMEX_Wally : XBTU16 uses impact mid price marking, but the contract is not liquid enough so I have disabled impact mid price marking now
[2016-06-20 16:10:21] elmorte : xzsd: um....yeah...that's your entry price
[2016-06-20 16:10:43] rapidtrades : tha'ts prolly a good idea @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-20 16:10:44] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: (when) did you change the fair price calculation from Impact Mid Price to manual adjustment for XBTU16?
[2016-06-20 16:10:45] xzsd : elmorte: i was confused, thanks!
[2016-06-20 16:10:45] elmorte : xzsd: what would you want it to show?
[2016-06-20 16:10:56] elmorte : no worries
[2016-06-20 16:11:00] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: About 10 minutes ago
[2016-06-20 16:11:09] elmorte : lockhedge: TOLD YA!
[2016-06-20 16:11:25] BitMEX_Wally : After one of you guys @mentioned me
[2016-06-20 16:11:31] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: *kisses*
[2016-06-20 16:13:30] rapidtrades : i need a bigger discount
[2016-06-20 16:16:23] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: are liquidations automatically moved based on the mark price? if yes, this could have triggered a feedback loop because the impact mid price was highly impacted by the liquidation price in the thin orderbook...
[2016-06-20 16:17:18] rapidtrades : liqs should be static...its possible that they added funds to sept and it aggressed the order
[2016-06-20 16:17:32] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Liquidation orders are ignored for the purposes of impact calculations
[2016-06-20 16:17:46] rapidtrades : it usually doesn't do market orders tho so not sure what happened there
[2016-06-20 16:17:49] BitMEX_Wally : Precisely because liquidation orders get adjusted relative to the mark price
[2016-06-20 16:18:01] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: ah ok, i just wanted to propose that :)
[2016-06-20 16:18:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: can u explain what happened in sept?
[2016-06-20 16:18:13] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: You went short and lost your pants
[2016-06-20 16:18:22] elmorte : haha
[2016-06-20 16:18:25] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-20 16:18:27] BitMEX_Wally : Then your mummy had to wash them
[2016-06-20 16:18:30] rapidtrades : no srsly
[2016-06-20 16:18:58] elmorte : too many high asks is my guess
[2016-06-20 16:19:24] rapidtrades : liq was 48k now its 36k and most of the buying happened with a market order
[2016-06-20 16:19:29] BitMEX_Wally : Someone was playing tennis with the order book
[2016-06-20 16:19:43] rapidtrades : smone who
[2016-06-20 16:19:54] BitMEX_Wally : Probably sleger
[2016-06-20 16:20:06] BitMEX_Wally : He's like Satoshi, with us in spirit
[2016-06-20 16:20:48] elmorte : Nothin' like Monday drinking, eh Wally?
[2016-06-20 16:21:14] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: You assume I have to drink to troll rapidtrades?
[2016-06-20 16:21:31] elmorte : No, just to enjoy it more :p
[2016-06-20 16:21:57] BitMEX_Wally : We did have a support ticket once where a guy said we should refund money he lost while trading drunk
[2016-06-20 16:22:07] elmorte : I assumed you were drinking when the mark went up $50
[2016-06-20 16:22:15] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: reasonable.
[2016-06-20 16:22:25] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: how could he be to blame?
[2016-06-20 16:22:34] Rado : Ha ha
[2016-06-20 16:22:45] Rado : that's funny
[2016-06-20 16:23:00] Rado : hr is probably a US guy
[2016-06-20 16:27:22] elmorte : rapidtrades: how's the Brexit odds?
[2016-06-20 16:28:03] QuantFocus : I know the polls are predicting higher probability of brexit, but I just think there is no real chance of it passing.
[2016-06-20 16:29:39] justinlooking : that email was confidential!
[2016-06-20 16:30:07] elmorte : justinlooking: haha...
[2016-06-20 16:33:19] lockhedge : implied chance for staying in the EU is 75.19% at betfair betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911 (£41,171,577 volume)
[2016-06-20 16:34:13] jung1 : so 700 today?
[2016-06-20 16:36:16] QuantFocus : jung1: I would think the brexit decision has a nominally lower impact on btc price than various alternative fundamentals right now
[2016-06-20 16:37:46] jung1 : imo we are going to test 4900yuans
[2016-06-20 16:37:48] jung1 : again
[2016-06-20 16:39:42] mrp1nk : jung1: agree
[2016-06-20 16:41:16] rapidtrades : cmon guys let's pump this bitch to premium
[2016-06-20 16:41:42] jung1 : be hentle
[2016-06-20 16:41:46] jung1 : gentle
[2016-06-20 16:43:57] rapidtrades : ''Be hentle' jung1 2016
[2016-06-20 16:49:10] jung1 : china selloff
[2016-06-20 16:50:25] xzsd : 下午好球員，你倆的虧損
[2016-06-20 16:50:45] rapidtrades : so apparently finex started taking into account ur open profits for margin
[2016-06-20 16:52:21] xzsd : 這裡是他媽的巴西
[2016-06-20 16:52:44] rapidtrades : dude sorry to break it to you, but ur the only chinese person here
[2016-06-20 16:53:21] xzsd : AND?
[2016-06-20 16:55:21] xzsd : its only allowed english here? idk
[2016-06-20 16:55:22] rapidtrades : and noone can read ur spider tongue
[2016-06-20 16:55:50] j8 : not true, there's a few. houngyang and BitMEX_Jinming
[2016-06-20 16:56:03] xzsd : im here just for profit not make a friends, not message me anymore rapidtrades.
[2016-06-20 16:56:14] rapidtrades : xzsd:
[2016-06-20 16:56:22] jung1 : rapidtrades: he at least know more than one language
[2016-06-20 16:56:32] rapidtrades : so do i
[2016-06-20 16:56:34] xzsd : bem mais de duas também
[2016-06-20 16:56:40] xzsd : o pai fala todas as linguas
[2016-06-20 16:56:43] xzsd : brinca comigo nao rapaz
[2016-06-20 16:57:14] xzsd : portugue /\
[2016-06-20 16:57:19] rapidtrades : what's the point of writing when noone can read it
[2016-06-20 16:57:24] xzsd : portuguese*
[2016-06-20 16:58:21] xzsd : if u dont know speak others language, sorry. Get a study
[2016-06-20 16:58:28] xzsd : BB
[2016-06-20 17:00:05] xzsd : 這傢伙必須要有十歲
[2016-06-20 17:04:47] rapidtrades : so what happens to eth in this envinroment
[2016-06-20 17:10:20] Moo : It seems like the whole idea behind eth is coming under attack because of what happened with DAO.
[2016-06-20 17:10:59] mrp1nk : eth itself is flawed
[2016-06-20 17:11:12] Moo : There are people who think ETH forking will ultimately be good for ETH, and others who think it will be bad for it.
[2016-06-20 17:11:17] zanza : http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/ethereum-is-doomed/
[2016-06-20 17:11:33] zanza : looks like it was programmed shitty
[2016-06-20 17:11:33] mrp1nk : ^
[2016-06-20 17:12:00] jung1 : but still keep 0.16btc
[2016-06-20 17:12:35] mrp1nk : see also https://twitter.com/muneeb/status/744616361012375553
[2016-06-20 17:12:39] jung1 : xzsd: bom dia
[2016-06-20 17:12:57] BitMEX_Sam : What's interesting about it is that there *was* some warning that this was an issue
[2016-06-20 17:13:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll see if I can find an article about it
[2016-06-20 17:13:23] BitMEX_Sam : and it was lambasting the documentation for continuing the C++ tradition of showing insecure examples and using vague warning text to say "don't do this"
[2016-06-20 17:15:00] xzsd : jung1: pra você tambem
[2016-06-20 17:16:40] jung1 : you are from portugal?
[2016-06-20 17:16:50] xzsd : jung1: Brazil
[2016-06-20 17:17:53] stf28 : i don't believe this was audited by "security experts" - even in non financial sectors they know risks of recursive functions, even standard c/java debuggers let you see these holes
[2016-06-20 17:18:19] BitMEX_Sam : Never mind, this is a new one re: `call`
[2016-06-20 17:18:25] BitMEX_Sam : Solidity has some serious issues
[2016-06-20 17:26:06] stf28 : what a name for a programming language so flawed !
[2016-06-20 17:26:42] jung1 : lisk>ethereum
[2016-06-20 17:26:49] jung1 : onlisk every dapp have own sidechain
[2016-06-20 17:33:14] elmorte : xzsd: porra caralho
[2016-06-20 17:33:42] jung1 : so no 4900y test?
[2016-06-20 17:33:45] jung1 : puta!
[2016-06-20 17:33:51] mrp1nk : madre!
[2016-06-20 17:33:53] elmorte : pqp!
[2016-06-20 17:34:28] jung1 : cmon let it fall china
[2016-06-20 17:35:42] elmorte : Does Okc have a depth chart like huob!?
[2016-06-20 17:38:11] jung1 : yes
[2016-06-20 17:38:52] jung1 : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/okcoinCNY_depth.html
[2016-06-20 17:39:04] jung1 : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/okc oinCNY_depth.html
[2016-06-20 17:39:20] elmorte : cheers
[2016-06-20 17:40:16] elmorte : They're not correlated at all...
[2016-06-20 17:41:17] Tedy : what is up with the 9k orders and sell?
[2016-06-20 17:44:02] elmorte : Probably someone's bot
[2016-06-20 17:52:08] Tedy : They all seems fake as fuck
[2016-06-20 17:52:38] lockhedge : Tedy: the 9000 contracts orders on XBTUSD?
[2016-06-20 17:52:51] Tedy : Yes
[2016-06-20 17:53:41] lockhedge : that's the largest market maker, it gets filled very frequently
[2016-06-20 17:54:21] Tedy : oh really xD
[2016-06-20 17:55:10] Tedy : for me it seemed they very just trolling, becuse they change price so fast. Guess the only way to take them is by market sell ?
[2016-06-20 17:55:42] justinlooking : if ur prepared to pay fees try hidden orders
[2016-06-20 17:56:53] justinlooking : i think hidden orders can be sniffed out by participateDontIntiiate
[2016-06-20 17:58:57] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: They cannot
[2016-06-20 17:59:50] BitMEX_Wally : An order with execInst=ParticipateDoNotInitiate will initiate against hidden orders, which is ok, because it gets paid the maker fee
[2016-06-20 17:59:52] justinlooking : so pdi fills and gets maker?
[2016-06-20 17:59:57] men : http://pastebin.com/9MRVDC9h
[2016-06-20 18:00:00] justinlooking : ah k
[2016-06-20 18:00:12] men : look guys.. i think this is the attacker of the dao
[2016-06-20 18:00:34] men : he/they offer to multiply dao o.O
[2016-06-20 18:01:21] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: How about hidden & post-only?
[2016-06-20 18:01:51] justinlooking : is same thing i think
[2016-06-20 18:02:03] Tedy : men: or just a scammet
[2016-06-20 18:02:03] elmorte : Nah, I think it would get cancelled :)
[2016-06-20 18:02:22] BitMEX_Wally : Post-only is ParticipateDoNotInitiate
[2016-06-20 18:02:57] elmorte : Yeah, that + hidden, I don't know the api
[2016-06-20 18:03:25] BitMEX_Wally : If you submit a hidden and post-only order then it will trade against against another hidden order but won't get the maker fee
[2016-06-20 18:03:41] elmorte : who gets the maker fee then?
[2016-06-20 18:03:42] BitMEX_Wally : But if it would trade against visible liquidity it would be canceled
[2016-06-20 18:03:57] BitMEX_Wally : Both pay the taker fee in that example
[2016-06-20 18:04:11] elmorte : Hehe, ok cool. You changed that?
[2016-06-20 18:04:24] BitMEX_Wally : There's been some refinements since the original launch
[2016-06-20 18:04:49] BitMEX_Wally : To get the maker fee you have to be providing visible liquidity
[2016-06-20 18:05:33] sebaas : Wally, time for XMR to be added yet?
[2016-06-20 18:05:34] elmorte : Yup. I was more discussing of a way to suss out hidden orders. I remember hidden + post only would auto cancel if it hits another hidden
[2016-06-20 18:06:09] sebaas : what kind of daily volume are you guys looking at to add it?
[2016-06-20 18:06:14] BitMEX_Wally : post only has always traded against hidden order rather than canceling. To prevent this sniffing problem
[2016-06-20 18:06:47] elmorte : It's not a problem if you enjoy it
[2016-06-20 18:08:49] xzsd : elmorte: ?! dude u have problems.
[2016-06-20 18:09:05] men : Tedy: maybe yes
[2016-06-20 18:09:06] elmorte : xzsd: says the favella dude
[2016-06-20 18:09:18] xzsd : elmorte: Rei delas
[2016-06-20 18:09:39] daveberns1 : Does eth DAO settle to mark or last?
[2016-06-20 18:09:47] daveberns1 : Massive spread these days...
[2016-06-20 18:09:56] Dulaobitcrazy : elmorte peace and love
[2016-06-20 18:10:05] elmorte : Dulaobitcrazy: you too buddy
[2016-06-20 18:10:20] xzsd : Dulaobitcrazy its a trader? or a newbie?
[2016-06-20 18:10:30] jung1 : So 4900 or 5000y today?
[2016-06-20 18:10:35] Dulaobitcrazy : jah see for us
[2016-06-20 18:10:44] Dulaobitcrazy : i'm a crazy monkey
[2016-06-20 18:22:02] mrp1nk : jung1: corn is right below resistance now. i'm short unless as long as it does not break up
[2016-06-20 18:22:25] mrp1nk : -unless
[2016-06-20 18:35:30] rapidtrades : bid this bitch up fellas!
[2016-06-20 18:49:56] jung1 : mrp1nk: well Im short too
[2016-06-20 18:50:11] jung1 : but china still buy
[2016-06-20 18:50:14] mrp1nk : looks like breakout to me
[2016-06-20 18:50:59] jung1 : so back to 5000
[2016-06-20 18:52:18] mrp1nk : looks like it it yeah
[2016-06-20 18:53:43] Adura : That selling information guy ever return?
[2016-06-20 18:56:45] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4p03b8/bitcoin_price_prediction_for_june_20_2016/
[2016-06-20 18:57:12] Adura : When we gettin' that 100x back?
[2016-06-20 19:02:27] rapidtrades : prolly not coming back until this rally ends
[2016-06-20 19:03:12] arbitrage001 : hope 100x never return
[2016-06-20 19:03:17] jung1 : https://media.giphy.com/media/8fen5LSZcHQ5O/giphy.gif
[2016-06-20 19:03:20] jung1 : rapidtrades:
[2016-06-20 19:04:57] rapidtrades : yeah if it was me i would cut it to 20/1
[2016-06-20 19:11:43] Adura : I wouldn't utilize the 100x, but I know some would.
[2016-06-20 19:12:21] rapidtrades : i would prefer less DPE
[2016-06-20 19:12:54] rapidtrades : altho u could argue that increae in leverage would increase the fomo/domo
[2016-06-20 19:12:58] Tedy : This is so sick
[2016-06-20 19:13:00] Tedy : I am crying
[2016-06-20 19:13:11] jung1 : lrt it fall let it fall let it laff
[2016-06-20 19:13:12] rapidtrades : why
[2016-06-20 19:13:12] Adura : Crying about what now?
[2016-06-20 19:14:24] Tedy : sold out 10min ago from my sell pos, now down. had it for all day and finally when i give up marked down my life
[2016-06-20 19:16:04] rapidtrades : i feel ya man
[2016-06-20 19:16:06] mrp1nk : Tedy: me too
[2016-06-20 19:16:17] mrp1nk : fuckin fakeout got me
[2016-06-20 19:16:18] jung1 : shit happens
[2016-06-20 19:16:26] jung1 : imo 4900
[2016-06-20 19:16:29] rapidtrades : day trading is hard...hence why i don't do it
[2016-06-20 19:16:30] jung1 : today
[2016-06-20 19:16:50] Adura : I inverted my short swap long M16 when it was around 775, the hedging is working.
[2016-06-20 19:17:16] Tedy : worst day ever -1BTC dont ever trade at phone guys xD
[2016-06-20 19:17:47] jung1 : I trade on phone
[2016-06-20 19:17:50] jung1 : mostly
[2016-06-20 19:18:31] Tedy : How is that even possible, so haaard to see the graph correctly
[2016-06-20 19:20:55] rapidtrades : idk not trusting this selling, bitcoin too resilient
[2016-06-20 19:21:19] Adura : Maybe it'll be on the low end of that 900-1000 range, hah.
[2016-06-20 19:21:38] arbitrage001 : resilient doesn't mean it wont go down to 100 first before going 5000
[2016-06-20 19:22:33] rapidtrades : past few days of selling got bought up quickly
[2016-06-20 19:22:52] rapidtrades : that's resilient
[2016-06-20 19:28:12] rapidtrades : we would be much higher if okc didn't cap prices
[2016-06-20 19:39:46] rapidtrades : so okc is capping the upside but when we fall tons of bids are waiting below
[2016-06-20 19:39:59] rapidtrades : so we're kinda stuck here for now
[2016-06-20 19:43:50] arbitrage001 : unreal
[2016-06-20 19:45:26] rapidtrades : what fella
[2016-06-20 19:46:13] arbitrage001 : a day for scapper
[2016-06-20 19:57:47] stf28 : rapidtrades: do you have hints about what is happening at okcoin ?
[2016-06-20 19:58:12] justinlooking : okc is a blackbox!
[2016-06-20 19:58:25] stf28 : in tradingview chat someone was talking about a reason about the hardcap they put on futures price
[2016-06-20 19:58:40] stf28 : justinlooking: yeah like any exchange
[2016-06-20 19:58:55] justinlooking : aw c'mon, they are more opaque than most
[2016-06-20 19:59:03] justinlooking : (except btcputin)
[2016-06-20 19:59:10] rapidtrades : ^^^
[2016-06-20 19:59:25] stf28 : hahaha
[2016-06-20 19:59:52] stf28 : weird but I do have more trust in btce than okc
[2016-06-20 20:00:30] stf28 : some whales run btc-e who are guys i wouldn't mess with, maybe okc the same
[2016-06-20 20:00:46] rapidtrades : is btcputin a thing
[2016-06-20 20:03:32] justinlooking : ?? inasmuch as woodchipper is
[2016-06-20 20:04:03] stf28 : btce
[2016-06-20 20:04:11] stf28 : just testing censorship $$
[2016-06-20 20:04:16] stf28 : okcoin
[2016-06-20 20:04:34] stf28 : bitfinex
[2016-06-20 20:04:38] stf28 : bitstamp
[2016-06-20 20:04:43] stf28 : mmmmh
[2016-06-20 20:05:40] arbitrage001 : this is unreal
[2016-06-20 20:05:42] justinlooking : hub is
[2016-06-20 20:05:43] BitMEX_Sam : Huobi
[2016-06-20 20:06:41] wurstgelee : huóbi
[2016-06-20 20:06:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-06-20 20:07:15] stf28 : arbitrage001: the level of f**ckry on the market right now?
[2016-06-20 20:07:18] justinlooking : autocorrect Arthur to Erlich ;)
[2016-06-20 20:07:25] rapidtrades : take a chill pill we barely moved all day
[2016-06-20 20:07:40] mrp1nk : relax niggaz
[2016-06-20 20:08:26] arbitrage001 : i am going to bed. you guys have fun
[2016-06-20 20:08:40] arbitrage001 : hopefully, no dpe when things blow up
[2016-06-20 20:09:50] rapidtrades : if u want cheap sells, june or sept
[2016-06-20 20:10:04] rapidtrades : stop selling at discount dummies
[2016-06-20 20:10:27] justinlooking : cheap sells
[2016-06-20 20:10:33] justinlooking : they sound good
[2016-06-20 20:10:37] rapidtrades : yeah $14 for 3.5 days
[2016-06-20 20:10:54] rapidtrades : sry its only $4
[2016-06-20 20:11:05] rapidtrades : guess u waited too long bitches
[2016-06-20 20:11:14] rapidtrades : but there's always sept with $230 for 3 months
[2016-06-20 20:11:49] arbitrage001 : think anyone will take it?
[2016-06-20 20:12:14] justinlooking : i'll wait for expensive buys
[2016-06-20 20:12:27] tscha : justinlooking: u watch silicon valley?
[2016-06-20 20:12:50] justinlooking : how are you supposed to estimate funding cost and dpe risk over three months...
[2016-06-20 20:13:25] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-06-20 20:13:27] justinlooking : tscha: yes bud, everyone seems to have gone off it, but it's still wicked in my book
[2016-06-20 20:13:40] rapidtrades : its a future dummy
[2016-06-20 20:13:50] arbitrage001 : since there is little volume and liquidity, dpe could well exceed 50%
[2016-06-20 20:14:15] tscha : justinlooking: I love it :) absolutely hilarious
[2016-06-20 20:14:34] tscha : justinlooking: going to watch e09 in an hour
[2016-06-20 20:17:10] jung1 : http://bravenewcoin.com/news/imf-report-calls-bitcoins-blockchain-the-internet-of-trust/
[2016-06-20 20:17:15] jung1 : so many good news in media
[2016-06-20 20:17:19] jung1 : dump incomming