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[2016-06-19 10:52:34] Bacon futures trader : Is there a way to remove to ma from your chart?
[2016-06-19 10:52:46] Bacon futures trader : And not have to do it every time
[2016-06-19 11:02:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 757.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-19 11:03:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 143 @ 759.09
[2016-06-19 11:03:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 759.79
[2016-06-19 11:04:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 31066 @ 762.85 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-19 11:04:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 175 @ 0.01637
[2016-06-19 11:04:58] billz : looks like bitcoin wants 800
[2016-06-19 11:09:57] Bacon futures trader : Looks like there is no liquidity lol
[2016-06-19 11:17:27] rapidtrades : gooooo bitcoin u hobag
[2016-06-19 11:29:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 10 @ 0.01682
[2016-06-19 11:32:58] rapidtrades : wtf is going on
[2016-06-19 11:34:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 677502 @ 746.78 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-19 11:34:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 746.27
[2016-06-19 11:35:12] Tedy : 500k sell wall today :O
[2016-06-19 11:35:22] micmix : okc turned on the dump bot
[2016-06-19 11:35:42] rapidtrades : okc needs to be sued out of business
[2016-06-19 11:36:01] podizzle3k : weeeee
[2016-06-19 11:36:23] podizzle3k : hands up for the coaster!
[2016-06-19 11:36:50] Tedy : micmix: No it is only the 200% retrace from up
[2016-06-19 11:40:02] podizzle3k : its a rollercoaster where you get to see the rektosaurus at the bottom of the hill whats not to love
[2016-06-19 11:41:29] futuretrader : thta was a cray move
[2016-06-19 11:41:30] futuretrader : wtf
[2016-06-19 11:41:43] Tedy : Wonder if the 2M sell dude will be back today just dumping rigth before 14.00
[2016-06-19 11:41:55] futuretrader : bitmex is all manipulated
[2016-06-19 11:42:20] rapidtrades : i suspect that ''dude'' is the same ''dude'' dumping 1 mil contracts on okc
[2016-06-19 11:42:26] rapidtrades : i.e. okc
[2016-06-19 11:42:59] rapidtrades : crazy? sure...but its china
[2016-06-19 11:43:05] Tedy : could be
[2016-06-19 11:43:09] laisee : whales and minnows, plus a few sharks in the Bitcoin terraria
[2016-06-19 11:43:30] podizzle3k : considering the #1-10 top holders combined dont even have 500k contracts i seriously doubt 1 'dude' is dumping 1M
[2016-06-19 11:43:47] rapidtrades : yday he did
[2016-06-19 11:43:59] podizzle3k : maybe you need to reread what i just wrote
[2016-06-19 11:44:17] rapidtrades : maybe u need to realizse that okc is running a scam
[2016-06-19 11:44:54] podizzle3k : i dont trade at okcoin so im not really concerned with their business practices
[2016-06-19 11:45:54] podizzle3k : if youre talking about them manipulating the market with bots then i wouldnt call it a scam
[2016-06-19 11:45:58] rapidtrades : then don't quote numbers cause they don't mean anything
[2016-06-19 11:46:33] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: oh right....exchange running in house bots is NOT A SCAM and capping the price increase when those bots get caught on the wrong side
[2016-06-19 11:46:34] rapidtrades : got it
[2016-06-19 11:46:42] rapidtrades : OKC IS NOT A SCAM EVERYONE
[2016-06-19 11:46:49] rapidtrades : i was clearly wrong
[2016-06-19 11:46:58] podizzle3k : well thats not unusual
[2016-06-19 11:48:10] podizzle3k : im pretty sure that cap was put into place to minimize their socialized losses risk
[2016-06-19 11:48:12] rapidtrades : they're so full of shit too....they never put out offical press release cos they know it could be grounds for a lawsuit
[2016-06-19 11:48:16] Tedy : Hahaha this is just hilarious
[2016-06-19 11:48:23] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: even heard of lowing margin?
[2016-06-19 11:48:41] podizzle3k : ive never heard of the word lowing
[2016-06-19 11:48:43] podizzle3k : so no
[2016-06-19 11:49:02] rapidtrades : they could've done it the honest way with loweirng margin
[2016-06-19 11:49:09] jesperf : loving margin <3
[2016-06-19 11:49:12] rapidtrades : plus they never said what they're doing...so ur point is moot
[2016-06-19 11:49:39] rapidtrades : they just let out rumors...guys okc they have good intentions
[2016-06-19 11:49:41] rapidtrades : f em...
[2016-06-19 11:49:44] podizzle3k : never heard of loweirng either
[2016-06-19 11:49:54] rapidtrades : get f*cked, how about that
[2016-06-19 11:50:06] rapidtrades : ever heard of that?
[2016-06-19 11:50:09] podizzle3k : i sense some tears about to flow
[2016-06-19 11:50:14] podizzle3k : u gonna cry for us?
[2016-06-19 11:50:18] rapidtrades : b1tch
[2016-06-19 11:50:25] podizzle3k : cmon cry for me
[2016-06-19 11:51:10] podizzle3k : same thing from all people like you cant trade for shit so try to blame everyone but themselves
[2016-06-19 11:51:15] jesperf : *gets naked*
[2016-06-19 11:51:15] podizzle3k : theyre gonna sue the exchanges
[2016-06-19 11:51:26] podizzle3k : theyre gonna find the admins and take them down
[2016-06-19 11:53:20] rapidtrades : htey should...that b1tch voorhees should use his millions to sue everyone and clean up this space...instead he wastes it on stupid investments like dao
[2016-06-19 11:55:29] rapidtrades : noone takes this stuff srsly...the worst mark kerpeles got was some talking to for a few mins before he entered his office
[2016-06-19 11:55:38] rapidtrades : he lost half a billion....BILLION
[2016-06-19 11:56:00] Bacon futures trader : Bitcoin is above 775$ we are lagging lol
[2016-06-19 11:56:16] podizzle3k : $775? wheres that
[2016-06-19 11:56:45] Bacon futures trader : nvm, my bad
[2016-06-19 11:57:08] billz : Bacon futures trader: bit-delta freezes sometimes if that's what your on. Happened to me before
[2016-06-19 11:57:32] podizzle3k : in the meantime lets get that b1tch voorhees started on his lawsuit against a mainland chinese company
[2016-06-19 11:57:39] podizzle3k : lets get that ball rolling
[2016-06-19 11:57:49] podizzle3k : maybe he can supply us all with jetpacks to fly to the moon too
[2016-06-19 12:00:02] podizzle3k : rektosaurus has some bad luck that was pretty much the bottom of the dump
[2016-06-19 12:01:22] podizzle3k : within 50 cents
[2016-06-19 12:02:36] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: they're in HK dummy
[2016-06-19 12:03:38] rapidtrades : sept overbought....no selling at all during recent dump
[2016-06-19 12:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 4 @ 0.01656 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-19 13:14:40] laisee : rapidtrades: sleger has left the building?
[2016-06-19 13:16:03] subjective : ouch DAO under attack again, expect more movements guys
[2016-06-19 13:19:11] peachesgirl : Hi ! Is admin around?
[2016-06-19 13:20:38] peachesgirl : I made a request to withdraw and confirmed 4 minutes before 13 utc. Withdrawal hasnt come thru so i guess it was too close?!
[2016-06-19 13:23:53] peachesgirl : I have sent an email for cancelation.thks.
[2016-06-19 13:27:29] rapidtrades : subjective: u mean new attacks?
[2016-06-19 13:27:51] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: https://m.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true
[2016-06-19 13:28:00] rapidtrades : loool
[2016-06-19 13:31:01] rapidtrades : ''Please don't let concern trolls from btc land come and convince us that a fork is bad and should be avoided. That's the last thing we need. Ethereum is young, mistakes will be made. This isn't bitcoin.''
[2016-06-19 13:31:12] rapidtrades : u got that right cupcake
[2016-06-19 13:33:23] mrp1nk : only forkcoin is legit coin vitalijesus said
[2016-06-19 13:35:04] mrp1nk : i hope they fork eth to deth
[2016-06-19 13:35:51] rapidtrades : how do i run a eth mining node? i heard attacker gives 1 mil
[2016-06-19 13:37:39] rapidtrades : are we and bitfinex only places trading eth right now?
[2016-06-19 13:38:08] rapidtrades : i read polo stopped....or was that just deposits
[2016-06-19 13:43:22] Tedy : Think they are under Ddose
[2016-06-19 13:47:54] Adura : Double dose?
[2016-06-19 13:50:57] laisee : ddoddos
[2016-06-19 13:52:41] Adura : Here comes the Bitcoin.
[2016-06-19 14:16:26] Bacon futures trader : Squeeze it
[2016-06-19 14:19:40] Tedy : buuuuy
[2016-06-19 14:20:41] rapidtrades : damit i was just going out
[2016-06-19 14:20:59] rapidtrades : PAUSE RALLY
[2016-06-19 14:21:11] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-06-19 14:21:36] Tedy : you got seconde chance xD
[2016-06-19 14:21:42] laisee : 10$ poke.
[2016-06-19 14:23:41] Tedy : Now we are going
[2016-06-19 14:26:58] Bacon futures trader : lol, last trade was 5 minutes ago
[2016-06-19 14:27:09] Bacon futures trader : and orderbook is flashing like a christmastree
[2016-06-19 14:38:33] elmorte : Why are we so bearish?
[2016-06-19 14:38:50] Adura : Compared to when?
[2016-06-19 14:39:11] elmorte : Whenever there's a premium
[2016-06-19 14:39:30] Tedy : We are just lagging hard
[2016-06-19 14:43:15] aethlios : elmorte: okcoin futures also bearish, only 10 usd above finex the weekly, finex is bullish and 11 usd above stamp
[2016-06-19 14:45:05] elmorte : aethlios: that would do it, cheers. Downside of monitoring on mobile...
[2016-06-19 14:58:10] rapidtrades : ppl that base their deciisons on okcoin will have a rude awakening very soon
[2016-06-19 15:01:56] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: meaing?
[2016-06-19 15:02:00] arbitrage001 : price going up, down?
[2016-06-19 15:03:06] rapidtrades : okc is trying to keep prices down
[2016-06-19 15:03:17] arbitrage001 : how so
[2016-06-19 15:03:24] arbitrage001 : and for what reason
[2016-06-19 15:04:28] arbitrage001 : i see what you mean
[2016-06-19 15:04:36] arbitrage001 : price here seems to follow okc tick by tick
[2016-06-19 15:04:45] rapidtrades : ask them...there's a cap of $65 premium on quaterly futures
[2016-06-19 15:05:01] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: right cos bots are idiots
[2016-06-19 15:06:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 40 @ 0.01575
[2016-06-19 15:08:17] rapidtrades : that liq on sept has to be sleger's
[2016-06-19 15:08:37] rapidtrades : its over 50% of open interest
[2016-06-19 15:08:48] arbitrage001 : think he said he is long sept and short june
[2016-06-19 15:09:07] rapidtrades : i don't remember any of that
[2016-06-19 15:09:23] arbitrage001 : cuz i was opposite when he said that
[2016-06-19 15:09:30] rapidtrades : afaik he was perpetually short the longer-dated shit
[2016-06-19 15:09:51] arbitrage001 : was a good strategy
[2016-06-19 15:10:02] rapidtrades : until now..
[2016-06-19 15:10:14] arbitrage001 : can withstand bull market, but not raging bull
[2016-06-19 15:11:23] arbitrage001 : price went up like this only happen once every few years
[2016-06-19 15:11:30] arbitrage001 : and only on digital asset
[2016-06-19 15:12:07] arbitrage001 : 7 months ago, price was around 250?
[2016-06-19 15:13:39] rapidtrades : i've been adjusting by buying on the way up
[2016-06-19 15:14:02] arbitrage001 : profit much lately?
[2016-06-19 15:14:21] rapidtrades : profit? ofc not im short on those
[2016-06-19 15:14:52] rapidtrades : overall its still a small position altho it balooned 2x since the start of the rally
[2016-06-19 15:15:10] rapidtrades : quantos are f scary on the way up man
[2016-06-19 15:15:22] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-06-19 15:15:43] arbitrage001 : half of my profit of this year gone in 2 week
[2016-06-19 15:16:07] rapidtrades : my plan is to stop adding longs cos i don't think we're gonna stay much above 800 longterm
[2016-06-19 15:16:24] arbitrage001 : hard to tell
[2016-06-19 15:16:29] arbitrage001 : could go 1000+
[2016-06-19 15:16:32] arbitrage001 : or 3000
[2016-06-19 15:16:50] arbitrage001 : function of bitcoin works same regardless of price
[2016-06-19 15:17:07] rapidtrades : right but its small enough that i don't have to adjust it constantly...even 3k wouldn't damage me severely ...let me check
[2016-06-19 15:17:48] rapidtrades : no 3k would ruin me lol
[2016-06-19 15:17:56] rapidtrades : dunno what i was thinking
[2016-06-19 15:18:07] arbitrage001 : odd of hitting that high is small
[2016-06-19 15:18:30] arbitrage001 : but then no body think btc could reach 1000+
[2016-06-19 15:18:42] rapidtrades : actually with my long i would still be ok...altho it would suck to lose so much to a small position
[2016-06-19 15:19:04] rapidtrades : im over 90% net long atm
[2016-06-19 15:19:27] rapidtrades : or 80-90% around there
[2016-06-19 15:19:31] arbitrage001 : mostly neutral here
[2016-06-19 15:19:40] arbitrage001 : sucking of interest and funding
[2016-06-19 15:19:44] arbitrage001 : on
[2016-06-19 15:19:47] rapidtrades : do u adjust?
[2016-06-19 15:19:53] arbitrage001 : nope
[2016-06-19 15:20:05] arbitrage001 : like i said, neutral
[2016-06-19 15:20:06] rapidtrades : then how do u remain neutral
[2016-06-19 15:20:16] rapidtrades : no but ur short quantos right?
[2016-06-19 15:20:29] arbitrage001 : already close 2 weeks ago
[2016-06-19 15:20:36] rapidtrades : ahhhh
[2016-06-19 15:20:38] arbitrage001 : now licking my wound
[2016-06-19 15:20:42] rapidtrades : rekted?
[2016-06-19 15:20:58] arbitrage001 : convert to swap
[2016-06-19 15:21:42] rapidtrades : i shorted at 500 on sept, in retrospect a monumental mistake lol
[2016-06-19 15:21:57] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-06-19 15:22:04] arbitrage001 : should not have the loss run uncheck
[2016-06-19 15:22:19] arbitrage001 : mistake i do not intent to repeat
[2016-06-19 15:22:21] rapidtrades : i think i didn't want to have cny exposure at okc
[2016-06-19 15:22:32] rapidtrades : i used to trade there
[2016-06-19 15:22:48] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: have to keep quantos small
[2016-06-19 15:22:49] arbitrage001 : i still trade there
[2016-06-19 15:22:58] arbitrage001 : deposit and withdraw is fast at okc
[2016-06-19 15:23:10] arbitrage001 : dont see an issue
[2016-06-19 15:23:14] rapidtrades : not for me :) problems everytime
[2016-06-19 15:29:50] rapidtrades : bitmex is super laggy for me oday
[2016-06-19 15:30:02] rapidtrades : restart browser and back to hogging +500 mb
[2016-06-19 15:31:04] arbitrage001 : no wonder
[2016-06-19 15:31:17] arbitrage001 : i am slow also and wondering why
[2016-06-19 15:35:43] rapidtrades : now u know :)
[2016-06-19 15:43:44] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: do u trade for a living?
[2016-06-19 15:45:31] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: mostly
[2016-06-19 15:45:46] arbitrage001 : broker bitcoin
[2016-06-19 15:45:56] arbitrage001 : used to be huge profit
[2016-06-19 15:47:35] arbitrage001 : alt coin mining was good for a while also
[2016-06-19 15:50:59] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-06-19 15:51:13] rapidtrades : brokering physical sales?
[2016-06-19 15:51:23] arbitrage001 : localbitcoin
[2016-06-19 15:52:01] arbitrage001 : arbitrage technique also gives profit from time to time
[2016-06-19 15:52:06] rapidtrades : what's the premium like
[2016-06-19 15:52:19] arbitrage001 : 5-10%
[2016-06-19 15:52:25] rapidtrades : and how do u spot fake bills
[2016-06-19 15:52:32] arbitrage001 : i dont
[2016-06-19 15:52:42] arbitrage001 : didnt know banking regulation
[2016-06-19 15:52:54] arbitrage001 : so, bank account get shut down one by one
[2016-06-19 15:53:18] rapidtrades : oh ok...i thought u did it in person
[2016-06-19 15:54:00] arbitrage001 : i forsee good profit trading here also
[2016-06-19 15:54:01] rapidtrades : counterfeit bills are not issue with bank transfers :)
[2016-06-19 15:54:26] arbitrage001 : arbitrage is a lot easier with high leverage
[2016-06-19 15:54:51] rapidtrades : more dangerous too :)
[2016-06-19 15:55:17] arbitrage001 : and since bitmex is btc denominated
[2016-06-19 15:55:25] arbitrage001 : can also do intereste arbitrage
[2016-06-19 15:55:36] arbitrage001 : which isnt possible before
[2016-06-19 15:57:23] rapidtrades : right
[2016-06-19 16:02:25] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: which country do you reside?
[2016-06-19 16:02:33] macios15 : green dildo atack again
[2016-06-19 16:02:39] arbitrage001 : cost of living is extremely low where i am
[2016-06-19 16:03:36] rapidtrades : i travel around, i don't reside anywhere atm
[2016-06-19 16:03:52] arbitrage001 : living in hotel?
[2016-06-19 16:04:09] rapidtrades : no hotels are expensive for lonterm travel, apartments
[2016-06-19 16:04:43] arbitrage001 : didnt know you can rent apartment short term
[2016-06-19 16:04:52] arbitrage001 : normally, tenancy is one year here
[2016-06-19 16:05:01] rapidtrades : yeah of course :) it costs more but u can
[2016-06-19 16:05:07] rapidtrades : well in europe anyway
[2016-06-19 16:05:45] arbitrage001 : how is cost of living there
[2016-06-19 16:05:52] arbitrage001 : never being to europe before
[2016-06-19 16:06:11] rapidtrades : fairly low in eastern europe, high in the west
[2016-06-19 16:06:33] arbitrage001 : how much for apartment and food each month?
[2016-06-19 16:06:36] Rado : another dump starting?
[2016-06-19 16:06:45] Rado : rapidtrades: which country do you live in?
[2016-06-19 16:06:50] arbitrage001 : damn, dump was quick
[2016-06-19 16:07:01] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-06-19 16:07:13] elmorte : Where the crash at??
[2016-06-19 16:07:27] arbitrage001 : all over the world
[2016-06-19 16:07:33] arbitrage001 : simutanously on all exchanges
[2016-06-19 16:07:41] arbitrage001 : except finex
[2016-06-19 16:07:51] elmorte : Just closed my long, the fckin crash opened another one
[2016-06-19 16:07:57] elmorte : I wanna sleep ffs
[2016-06-19 16:07:59] rapidtrades : finex will lead us to bictory
[2016-06-19 16:08:09] zanza : any idea why the hash rate isn't increasing much past few weeks ?
[2016-06-19 16:08:28] Bacon futures trader : time to liquidate those longs
[2016-06-19 16:08:40] arbitrage001 : zanza: low profit, high risk
[2016-06-19 16:08:50] Rado : trading at the moment does not make much sense
[2016-06-19 16:08:53] arbitrage001 : zanza: most miners should figure out by now mining is a losing game
[2016-06-19 16:08:57] rapidtrades : liquidate now, cry soon after @Bacon futures trader
[2016-06-19 16:08:59] Rado : it takes a few buys to push the price up
[2016-06-19 16:09:05] Rado : but a lot of volume to push it down
[2016-06-19 16:09:18] rapidtrades : that's a bull market
[2016-06-19 16:09:26] rapidtrades : and okc is playing with FIRE
[2016-06-19 16:09:28] Bacon futures trader : lol sure
[2016-06-19 16:09:46] zanza : does OKC still limit orders premiumn ?
[2016-06-19 16:09:53] rapidtrades : sure does
[2016-06-19 16:10:22] Bacon futures trader : 5k cny is going to get shredded
[2016-06-19 16:10:49] zanza : did we just hit a triple top ?
[2016-06-19 16:11:01] rapidtrades : i would go long if that f*cker with the 2.6 million wasn't around
[2016-06-19 16:11:20] zanza : the DAO attacker ?
[2016-06-19 16:11:20] Rado : on which exchange rapidtrades?
[2016-06-19 16:11:23] Rado : OKC?
[2016-06-19 16:11:30] rapidtrades : here, he bought it 2 days ago
[2016-06-19 16:11:37] rapidtrades : sry sold
[2016-06-19 16:11:52] rapidtrades : or was it yday
[2016-06-19 16:12:01] Rado : at what price did he sell?
[2016-06-19 16:12:11] rapidtrades : 445-450
[2016-06-19 16:12:28] Rado : huh?
[2016-06-19 16:12:29] zanza : sleger?
[2016-06-19 16:12:38] rapidtrades : prolly
[2016-06-19 16:12:49] rapidtrades : Rado: lol sry 745
[2016-06-19 16:12:56] Rado : ok
[2016-06-19 16:12:58] rapidtrades : we gone up so fast!
[2016-06-19 16:13:03] Rado : yeah
[2016-06-19 16:13:03] rapidtrades : mind can't keep up
[2016-06-19 16:14:21] Mike : Think it'll get over 800?
[2016-06-19 16:14:31] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-19 16:14:46] rapidtrades : eventually :)
[2016-06-19 16:14:58] Bacon futures trader : I'm looking at a bigger range for now
[2016-06-19 16:16:41] rapidtrades : range would be cool too...i could lock in more gains
[2016-06-19 16:27:48] Rado : how do you lock in more gains rapidtrades
[2016-06-19 16:28:08] Rado : when in a range
[2016-06-19 16:31:33] elmorte : Buy low. He's aiming for the moon
[2016-06-19 16:32:48] arbitrage001 : price action looks very weak this week
[2016-06-19 16:33:02] arbitrage001 : every pump was followed by dump
[2016-06-19 16:33:21] Rado : as I said before usually choppy trading means short term top
[2016-06-19 16:33:27] Rado : I might be wrong of course
[2016-06-19 16:33:46] Rado : and we coul dshoot another $200 up
[2016-06-19 16:34:19] arbitrage001 : that willl shoot past 1000
[2016-06-19 16:35:32] Rado : https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/744473417026535424
[2016-06-19 16:35:38] Rado : ddos on Polo
[2016-06-19 16:35:56] Rado : well that was a while ago
[2016-06-19 16:36:03] Rado : they get a lot of ddos attacks
[2016-06-19 16:36:16] Rado : I guess alt coins are hated or something
[2016-06-19 16:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1373 @ 0.01564
[2016-06-19 16:38:12] Rado : later guys
[2016-06-19 16:38:24] arbitrage001 : late
[2016-06-19 16:38:28] arbitrage001 : later
[2016-06-19 17:06:42] men : http://ethermine.org/stats/votes
[2016-06-19 17:06:51] men : miner working for soft fork
[2016-06-19 17:07:08] men : eth will go to 0.005
[2016-06-19 17:07:16] men : * miner voting
[2016-06-19 17:14:52] rapidtrades : tnx for that link
[2016-06-19 17:14:58] rapidtrades : how's it looking right now
[2016-06-19 17:20:36] men : :)
[2016-06-19 17:31:59] mbaril : http://ethpool.org/stats/votes
[2016-06-19 17:32:07] mbaril : so far people are voting yes for soft fork
[2016-06-19 17:32:13] aethlios : anyone has an opinion about monero as a long term holding investment?? (not trading)
[2016-06-19 17:35:26] 1QaZxSw2 : is buying 1 contract like buying 1 btc?
[2016-06-19 17:39:57] rapidtrades : $1 on swap
[2016-06-19 17:40:31] 1QaZxSw2 : oh, i get it, you buy as many btc depending on cost of btc
[2016-06-19 17:40:57] rapidtrades : it says in order value
[2016-06-19 17:41:12] rapidtrades : how many btc u get
[2016-06-19 17:41:47] rapidtrades : example, if u buy 765 ur exposure will be 1 btc
[2016-06-19 17:44:17] Villa : how does one trade here
[2016-06-19 17:44:40] rapidtrades : Villa: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-06-19 17:45:38] rapidtrades : big wall at 768 on finex
[2016-06-19 17:52:18] rapidtrades : guys do u think we're getting etherium refugees?
[2016-06-19 17:53:12] Mike : hahahaha
[2016-06-19 18:01:19] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: trend line broken. Still long mate?
[2016-06-19 18:02:58] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-19 18:03:50] BTCDJS : k
[2016-06-19 18:04:11] rapidtrades : it's only broken on 4h
[2016-06-19 18:04:17] Adura : They're not eth refugees, they're eth economic migrants.
[2016-06-19 18:04:40] rapidtrades : and it didn't happen because of a fall, it happened with the passage of time...so very weak
[2016-06-19 18:05:50] BTCDJS : But the worry is that the more sideways it moves the less chance of another leg up
[2016-06-19 18:05:59] rapidtrades : disagree
[2016-06-19 18:06:47] rapidtrades : consolidations in uptrends usually break higher
[2016-06-19 18:07:11] rapidtrades : pennats, flags, triangles...whatever
[2016-06-19 18:07:21] BTCDJS : k
[2016-06-19 18:09:03] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/744582960574242816
[2016-06-19 18:09:16] rapidtrades : kingscrown: die of zika
[2016-06-19 18:09:38] rapidtrades : now he's just straight out spammin
[2016-06-19 18:27:46] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: You know that book you said was good? he talks about a "bucket shop". What is it?
[2016-06-19 18:28:04] BTCDJS : literal shop that sells buckets?
[2016-06-19 18:28:34] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: bucket shops are brokers which is your counter party
[2016-06-19 18:28:52] BTCDJS : thanks
[2016-06-19 18:28:54] arbitrage001 : meaning if you make profit, the shop is losing
[2016-06-19 18:29:07] arbitrage001 : and vice versa
[2016-06-19 18:29:28] BTCDJS : gotcha
[2016-06-19 18:29:54] arbitrage001 : not hard to figure out the shop will use all kind of trick to make you use money
[2016-06-19 18:30:06] arbitrage001 : such as giving you high leverage
[2016-06-19 18:30:14] arbitrage001 : and accurate quote
[2016-06-19 18:30:21] arbitrage001 : inaccurate quote
[2016-06-19 18:30:45] arbitrage001 : make you lose money i mean
[2016-06-19 18:31:21] zanza : change contract terms?
[2016-06-19 18:31:57] arbitrage001 : zanza: going to withhold the answer for now lol
[2016-06-19 18:32:26] zanza : :)
[2016-06-19 18:32:51] zanza : anyone worried about this BTC top ?
[2016-06-19 18:33:05] arbitrage001 : nope
[2016-06-19 18:33:16] arbitrage001 : was hoping it can go back to 450
[2016-06-19 18:33:23] arbitrage001 : or 150
[2016-06-19 18:33:38] zanza : i was looking for 600 entry
[2016-06-19 18:33:39] arbitrage001 : otherwise, buying long term is out for me
[2016-06-19 18:34:21] arbitrage001 : odd of losing big time is big, where odd of winning big time is small
[2016-06-19 19:02:44] 1QaZxSw2 : so im long 20k contracts
[2016-06-19 19:02:58] 1QaZxSw2 : what i see is that it only uses .77 btc margin
[2016-06-19 19:03:11] Adura : At what leverage x?
[2016-06-19 19:03:18] 1QaZxSw2 : 35x
[2016-06-19 19:03:36] Adura : Hmm, living dangerously.
[2016-06-19 19:03:47] 1QaZxSw2 : regardless, even if i make 10 points, i make .34 btc
[2016-06-19 19:03:52] 1QaZxSw2 : thats 50% not bad
[2016-06-19 19:04:16] 1QaZxSw2 : however, if i want to trade large, i would need to enter 200k contracts
[2016-06-19 19:04:25] 1QaZxSw2 : there is just no liquidity to enter that size
[2016-06-19 19:05:49] Bacon futures trader : buy low sell high
[2016-06-19 19:05:51] Bacon futures trader : ez
[2016-06-19 19:05:53] 1QaZxSw2 : im taking about entering under 2btc, which is not a significant amount
[2016-06-19 19:06:08] 1QaZxSw2 : that would require 200k contracts
[2016-06-19 19:06:34] 1QaZxSw2 : so basically, im wondering where the whales trade
[2016-06-19 19:06:56] 1QaZxSw2 : not that im a whale or shark, but this place seems to be people scalping small trades
[2016-06-19 19:07:25] Adura : There's a psychological fear of large numbers.
[2016-06-19 19:08:30] Mike : 1QaZxSw2: Leverage higher to make more.
[2016-06-19 19:09:31] 1QaZxSw2 : i get that its great for bitmex, lots of traders come in on small contracts
[2016-06-19 19:09:43] 1QaZxSw2 : and trade often, generating fees
[2016-06-19 19:09:49] BTCDJS : 1QaZxSw2: I would imagine the whales who trade bitcoin trade at 0kcoin and finex
[2016-06-19 19:10:12] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, i should try okco1n
[2016-06-19 19:10:24] 1QaZxSw2 : bitmex has a nice interface tho
[2016-06-19 19:10:32] BTCDJS : 1QaZxSw2: premium is capped to 65$ tho
[2016-06-19 19:10:38] BTCDJS : 0kcoin
[2016-06-19 19:11:28] 1QaZxSw2 : and okcoin does not have swap, correct?
[2016-06-19 19:11:52] BTCDJS : spot. and futures
[2016-06-19 19:12:27] 1QaZxSw2 : i think spot on margin is where you can trade larger. the futures market seems to be underdevleoped in terms of liquidity
[2016-06-19 19:13:04] BTCDJS : why did you not consider bitfinex?
[2016-06-19 19:13:28] 1QaZxSw2 : yes, they have spot on margin, right?
[2016-06-19 19:13:35] BTCDJS : yes
[2016-06-19 19:13:43] 1QaZxSw2 : i'll try there
[2016-06-19 19:14:04] 1QaZxSw2 : and is it true that okc has bots that will run your stops just to make money for themselves
[2016-06-19 19:14:35] BTCDJS : I've heard people say that a couple times in here
[2016-06-19 19:15:24] BTCDJS : i only like to trade here tho. I have accounts with those two but I never really gave it proper attention
[2016-06-19 19:19:40] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidity is chicken and egg in general but always improving
[2016-06-19 19:20:40] BitMEX_Sam : Large orders often get taken if they are in the book
[2016-06-19 19:20:49] rapidtrades : cmon do ur thing bitcoin
[2016-06-19 19:22:03] mrp1nk : in time
[2016-06-19 19:22:36] rapidtrades : it's time
[2016-06-19 19:28:10] mrp1nk : soon™
[2016-06-19 19:28:37] rapidtrades : NAO
[2016-06-19 19:29:19] rapidtrades : factom has no asks
[2016-06-19 19:36:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 26 @ 0.01600
[2016-06-19 19:39:38] BTCDJS : nah Im not convinced theres going to be another leg up
[2016-06-19 19:40:30] rapidtrades : k
[2016-06-19 19:41:06] BTCDJS : seen the 3d chart?
[2016-06-19 19:42:33] rapidtrades : wtf is a 3d chart
[2016-06-19 19:43:28] BTCDJS : there is a 3d chart on bitcoinwisdom.com
[2016-06-19 19:43:42] Bacon futures trader : lol, this shit is already hard enough
[2016-06-19 19:43:48] Bacon futures trader : I don't need a 3d chart lmao
[2016-06-19 19:43:58] rapidtrades : ^^^
[2016-06-19 19:44:07] zanza : 3 day
[2016-06-19 19:44:31] BTCDJS : yeah I mean its obvious innit? @zanza
[2016-06-19 19:44:42] rapidtrades : oh 3 day..u muppet
[2016-06-19 19:45:00] BTCDJS : duh
[2016-06-19 19:45:18] rapidtrades : what's wrong with it? should be more bullish then daily no
[2016-06-19 19:46:43] BTCDJS : thats the thing. It doesn't. looks like its turning around
[2016-06-19 19:49:02] 1QaZxSw2 : im exiting my longs flat
[2016-06-19 19:49:27] BTCDJS : but then again which three days is it? Are we on the first second or third day on that chart?
[2016-06-19 19:50:08] rapidtrades : decisions on 1 candle are seldom good idea
[2016-06-19 19:50:20] BTCDJS : we are on the 3rd day
[2016-06-19 19:52:15] BTCDJS : perhaps its only an indication that we are running out of steam I guess
[2016-06-19 19:52:29] rapidtrades : u got it
[2016-06-19 19:55:40] BTCDJS : if we touch 780-790 again and don't break through. Would you say its over then?
[2016-06-19 19:59:22] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-06-19 20:11:28] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: how much do u risk per trade
[2016-06-19 20:12:45] jung1 : http://ethpool.org/stats/votes miners voting about softfork of ethereum
[2016-06-19 20:12:57] rapidtrades : we know
[2016-06-19 20:13:39] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: 10% of my account
[2016-06-19 20:14:04] BTCDJS : sometimes a bit more
[2016-06-19 20:14:04] jung1 : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/744528738113642499 time to go short soon https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/744528738113642499
[2016-06-19 20:16:25] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: and are u making money
[2016-06-19 20:18:06] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I did well in the rally leading up to here. But I think what I should've done was stay in all the way up to here before exiting. Entering and exiting and entering again is my mistake. Overthinking and overtrading and doubt due to lack of experience. Last time I was here when I first met you I was only losing money. This time I am making money
[2016-06-19 20:20:19] BTCDJS : Ive withdrawn some of my funds that I made here. and Ive lost a bit with what I had left. But this has been an even better learning experience. Because last time I was gambling playing big sums without a plan
[2016-06-19 20:21:18] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-06-19 20:21:42] BTCDJS : getting better though. Just busy reading that book.
[2016-06-19 20:21:53] rapidtrades : well long-term ur not gonna make it with a risk of 10% per trade...but i assume at this stage its not a large sum of money for u
[2016-06-19 20:25:01] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I'm trading with what I would feel comfortable losing. But when I get it right a part of me regrets not putting in a lot more. But I shrug it off. Because when Im not emotional I am learning better. Ill start playing larger amounts when I feel the time is right for me to do so.
[2016-06-19 20:25:48] mrp1nk : jung1: hmm... you think this is the top indicator?
[2016-06-19 20:26:27] jung1 : shure + fork in one month from now
[2016-06-19 20:26:43] mrp1nk : i hope for one more leg up
[2016-06-19 20:28:01] jung1 : yeah but you know. If you hear from bartender that you should buy some stocks, you should sell them
[2016-06-19 20:28:34] mrp1nk : yeah, fully agree
[2016-06-19 20:32:16] rapidtrades : right, understand. keep ur risk low. That's the only way to make it in this business @BTCDJS
[2016-06-19 20:32:40] sq : if eth soft-fork, what happens to its price?
[2016-06-19 20:32:52] Adura : Gets fucked, you'd think.
[2016-06-19 20:33:43] rapidtrades : crash below 10 hopefully
[2016-06-19 20:33:55] jung1 : sq: soft fork is for improvement of protocol. should be some nice pump and dump
[2016-06-19 20:33:56] jung1 : imo
[2016-06-19 20:34:41] sq : if its for improvmeent, then y would it go lower?
[2016-06-19 20:35:46] rapidtrades : trust gone
[2016-06-19 20:35:51] jung1 : to kill all longs
[2016-06-19 20:36:23] BTCDJS : ETH is going to have a few forks before final product anyway. Its still in development. I don't know why this is such a big deal to people.
[2016-06-19 20:37:25] BTCDJS : but its good for trading i guess
[2016-06-19 20:37:42] jung1 : shure
[2016-06-19 20:37:51] jung1 : new money for ecosystem
[2016-06-19 20:37:59] rapidtrades : why is reversing transactions a big deal in a decentralized payment system ?
[2016-06-19 20:38:05] rapidtrades : are u asking why?
[2016-06-19 20:38:48] rapidtrades : we had bigger scams in bitcoin and never reversed
[2016-06-19 20:38:50] jung1 : https://twitter.com/muneeb/status/744620238638096386
[2016-06-19 20:39:10] rapidtrades : these f millennials need to suck it up or get out of the kitchen
[2016-06-19 20:39:16] justinlooking : it's not reversing the transactions
[2016-06-19 20:39:59] rapidtrades : yeah it is
[2016-06-19 20:40:07] justinlooking : source
[2016-06-19 20:40:17] rapidtrades : ur mom's vag
[2016-06-19 20:49:16] sq : rapidtrades: r u loing?
[2016-06-19 20:49:19] sq : btc
[2016-06-19 20:53:09] jung1 : im lending alts on polo
[2016-06-19 20:56:08] jung1 : http://i.imgur.com/QL8brp5.png
[2016-06-19 20:56:25] Adura : RIP transactions.
[2016-06-19 20:57:06] jung1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-06-19 20:58:01] justinlooking : again
[2016-06-19 20:58:06] Adura : For people that can't afford the transaction fees.
[2016-06-19 21:06:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 52 @ 0.01623
[2016-06-19 21:10:10] SatoshiFX : Hi, what exactly will happen with my contract BTXM16 on 24. july. I bought small position on 464 and I'm not sure if to sell it or leave to expire or buy bit more to make it a bit bigger or roll it to next month.
[2016-06-19 21:13:18] rapidtrades : hey guys its satoshi!
[2016-06-19 21:15:56] rapidtrades : i haven't seen support all day
[2016-06-19 21:16:24] rapidtrades : well smone was here this morning...but affter that, noone
[2016-06-19 21:20:39] BTCDJS : sam was here two hours ago
[2016-06-19 21:22:42] men : i think bitcoin is ready for another leg up ... :D
[2016-06-19 21:25:15] jung1 : SatoshiFX: there will be auto settlement
[2016-06-19 21:27:01] rapidtrades : what other exhcnages u follow guys
[2016-06-19 21:28:12] jung1 : finex and polo
[2016-06-19 21:28:32] rapidtrades : pol....for btcusd
[2016-06-19 21:28:33] rapidtrades : rly
[2016-06-19 21:28:43] jung1 : for eth
[2016-06-19 21:28:52] rapidtrades : NOONE AXED ABOUT ETH
[2016-06-19 21:28:56] jung1 : and I'm lending there
[2016-06-19 21:29:04] jung1 : you do
[2016-06-19 21:29:07] rapidtrades : good for u
[2016-06-19 21:40:34] jung1 : I feel green on btc charts in air
[2016-06-19 21:44:52] men : jung1: me too... i think its gonna to explode
[2016-06-19 21:45:11] SatoshiFX : jung1: so the settlement will be the difference between entry(or last rebalance?) and exit , minus exit commission?
[2016-06-19 21:45:46] jung1 : yes. by current price. Will be closed even on loss
[2016-06-19 21:46:12] justinlooking : sounds right
[2016-06-19 21:46:24] justinlooking : settlement price is 2h twap for futures
[2016-06-19 21:46:34] justinlooking : or m16 at least..
[2016-06-19 21:46:39] rapidtrades : SatoshiFX: if u close now, u get the bid price...if u wait a week u get the spot price
[2016-06-19 21:47:32] rapidtrades : u have to decide if $17 premium is worth it for the long exposure
[2016-06-19 21:49:43] ted : @rapidtrades where to learn more strategies that take account of the fee's and premiums on this site?
[2016-06-19 21:51:21] rapidtrades : Since the Mao era, China’s government has kept a secret file, called a dang’an, on almost everyone. A dang’an contains school reports, health records, work permits, personality assessments, and other information that might be considered confidential and private in other countries. It can determine whether a citizen is eligible for promotion or a coveted urban residency permit.
[2016-06-19 21:51:35] rapidtrades : what a swell country ^^^
[2016-06-19 21:51:43] justinlooking : umm support
[2016-06-19 21:52:06] justinlooking : got too many messages message on bot
[2016-06-19 21:52:08] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-06-19 21:52:14] rapidtrades : ah sry
[2016-06-19 21:52:40] justinlooking : and it's locked me out of frontend too
[2016-06-19 21:52:57] ted : hey china even going further, they going to monitor your online activity and any decent will negatively effect your credit rating
[2016-06-19 21:53:17] ted : and even worse... if your friends make any decent.. that will effect your credit rating too
[2016-06-19 21:53:25] ted : they currently building such a system
[2016-06-19 21:54:00] rapidtrades : “Except for those concerning national security, commercial secrets and privacy, other resources and data shall be made accessible to the public,” Premier Li said as part of his comments that 80 percent of China’s data is in the hands of the government
[2016-06-19 21:54:21] rapidtrades : more here, don't want to spam chat http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-19/phone-tracking-nude-selfie-ious-see-chinese-bare-all-for-credit
[2016-06-19 21:55:58] ted : well, hope maidsafe will work out