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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-17 03:48:05] rapidtrades : i assume lots of bots use their futures in calcs and shit so its having a knock-on effect in other futures like here [2016-06-17 03:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.02776 [2016-06-17 03:48:22] Rado : my bot is long ETH again [2016-06-17 03:48:32] Rado : what's with ETH bull run? [2016-06-17 03:49:24] mikeh : probably cos transaction limit hasn't been sorted yet [2016-06-17 03:50:07] mikeh : needs to be an alt for when everyone bails out of fiat [2016-06-17 03:50:33] rapidtrades : noone is gonna bail on fiat [2016-06-17 03:50:33] Rado : nah [2016-06-17 03:50:38] rapidtrades : u ppl are delusional [2016-06-17 03:50:41] Rado : there are a lot of other alt coins [2016-06-17 03:50:46] Rado : they are not going up like ETH [2016-06-17 03:51:37] messiaen8844 : ETH has been bullish for quite a while [2016-06-17 03:52:04] messiaen8844 : didn't lost it's supports [2016-06-17 03:52:08] messiaen8844 : and there was evident accumulation [2016-06-17 03:52:17] messiaen8844 : it will shoot high [2016-06-17 03:53:23] rapidtrades : still in range on daily [2016-06-17 03:54:16] rapidtrades : shitcoin rly should be down [2016-06-17 03:54:45] Rado : I think a $100 drop is coming on BTC [2016-06-17 03:54:55] rapidtrades : no shit [2016-06-17 03:55:05] rapidtrades : capt oobvious award [2016-06-17 03:55:18] Rado : lol [2016-06-17 03:57:49] NukeLaloosh : can i be rebalanced more than my margin on a position? [2016-06-17 03:58:16] Rado : so if I buy swap now I will pay the 0.95% funding? [2016-06-17 03:58:34] Yumi : yes [2016-06-17 03:58:49] rapidtrades : Rado: maybe :) [2016-06-17 03:58:58] rapidtrades : try it and find out [2016-06-17 03:59:26] Rado : no [2016-06-17 04:02:04] rapidtrades : so 1.1% in now fixed and we're looking at another 1.1% next if premium doesn't drop [2016-06-17 04:06:08] j8 : a little too good to be true, it will be hard to sustain for more than one session [2016-06-17 04:09:44] ayy_lmao : dat funding [2016-06-17 04:09:45] ayy_lmao : rekt [2016-06-17 04:12:15] ayy_lmao : worse than dpe lmao [2016-06-17 04:12:32] messiaen8844 : they should delist this XBJ24H shit from here [2016-06-17 04:12:43] messiaen8844 : until they do decent market making [2016-06-17 04:13:08] messiaen8844 : do anything and market maker removes everything from the book [2016-06-17 04:14:01] ayy_lmao : i forgot to close my order before the rebalance [2016-06-17 04:14:23] messiaen8844 : This fuckery is a bit too much [2016-06-17 04:14:51] rapidtrades : i mean at least it settles daily :) [2016-06-17 04:15:00] jet : I just signed up. this rebalance thing effectively halved my position. what is this? [2016-06-17 04:15:10] ayy_lmao : paid 0.2 btc in funding instead of probably 0.01-02 in fees just closing [2016-06-17 04:19:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 178 @ 779.79 [2016-06-17 04:19:54] NukeLaloosh : in 8 hours it's both a rebalance AND funding? [2016-06-17 04:20:46] rapidtrades : ye [2016-06-17 04:21:03] messiaen8844 : bullshit... [2016-06-17 04:21:55] messiaen8844 : yesterday had a winning trade but market maker didn't give me a way out and I had to wait for settlement when my gains were reduced, no way you can trade this [2016-06-17 04:21:59] messiaen8844 : v [2016-06-17 04:22:27] ayy_lmao : dont know what to do at this point [2016-06-17 04:23:49] ayy_lmao : u can get margin called on funding alone at this rate [2016-06-17 04:23:54] ayy_lmao : if u hold for enough funding rounds [2016-06-17 04:25:00] ayy_lmao : of course this only affects longs but fuck shorting a bull trend [2016-06-17 04:25:03] j8 : yep. the change in the rate is capped so you can't be liquidated just by one funding event [2016-06-17 04:25:36] jet : Opened a long. Opened at 775. Closed at 779. Made a loss of 100%.. wat [2016-06-17 04:25:52] rapidtrades : mexed [2016-06-17 04:25:59] ayy_lmao : lmao [2016-06-17 04:26:10] jet : good thing it was $3, not $30,000 [2016-06-17 04:26:22] j8 : jet: the price trades lower before the funding payment, because if you buy you have to pay funding [2016-06-17 04:27:09] NukeLaloosh : on rebalance, our Entry Price gets adjusted to Index, Price, which is last price at Kaiko. No more TWAP, yes? [2016-06-17 04:27:26] messiaen8844 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvTkddp1F0 [2016-06-17 04:27:30] jet : that's some twisted shit [2016-06-17 04:27:32] j8 : NukeLaloosh: right [2016-06-17 04:27:35] ayy_lmao : why dont they update the entry to reflect that [2016-06-17 04:27:36] ayy_lmao : it always show the entry before rebalance [2016-06-17 04:27:49] rapidtrades : funding was around $7 this time around so u paid that to the shorts @jet [2016-06-17 04:28:17] jet : so basically this place is useless if you want to hold [2016-06-17 04:28:25] rapidtrades : yes [2016-06-17 04:28:39] ayy_lmao : this is only useful if u want to short for now [2016-06-17 04:28:55] jet : funny how they advertise "low fees" and "no expiry" [2016-06-17 04:28:57] ayy_lmao : but every shorter has got mc for the past 15 days lol [2016-06-17 04:28:58] rapidtrades : u can still long here if u get in at the right time [2016-06-17 04:29:05] ayy_lmao : so choose ur poison [2016-06-17 04:29:15] rapidtrades : cos fees are only high if premium is high [2016-06-17 04:29:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 692 @ 778.54 [2016-06-17 04:29:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 777.39 [2016-06-17 04:29:23] jet : eh, I'll rather go back to a more transparent platform at 10x leverage then [2016-06-17 04:29:34] jet : thanks for the input guys, much appreciated [2016-06-17 04:29:37] ayy_lmao : u just have to close before rebalance to not get rekt on funding [2016-06-17 04:29:48] rapidtrades : but u have to manage the longs, not just holding [2016-06-17 04:29:50] ayy_lmao : but that defeats the whole purpose of a 'perpetual' contract [2016-06-17 04:30:02] jet : exactly [2016-06-17 04:30:53] jet : I wanna drop in money, check back three days later and not be mc'd even though I made a good call based on the actual price movements [2016-06-17 04:31:07] jet : so this is easily not for me [2016-06-17 04:31:09] j8 : it's a floating rate contract, that's how it works. same happens if you borrow at at the flash return rate on bitfinex [2016-06-17 04:31:20] j8 : it wouldn't be a big deal if rates were reasonable [2016-06-17 04:31:27] ayy_lmao : ^ [2016-06-17 04:31:31] jet : agreed [2016-06-17 04:31:45] j8 : they are high because people are willing to pay them [2016-06-17 04:32:03] jet : but yeah, I joined at a bad time right before rebalance, which I didn't know about [2016-06-17 04:32:13] jet : but my position was wiped out almost immediately, which is bs [2016-06-17 04:32:21] rapidtrades : hey at least here u can long here unlike okc [2016-06-17 04:32:35] jet : I can long 10x on simplefx [2016-06-17 04:32:46] rapidtrades : k [2016-06-17 04:32:58] jet : I'd like 50x, but eh, tradeoffs [2016-06-17 04:35:00] rapidtrades : leverage that high comes with calwbacks so [2016-06-17 04:35:16] messiaen8844 : jet: cryptofacilities also offer 50x [2016-06-17 04:35:48] jet : thanks messia, I might give it a shot [2016-06-17 04:35:57] elmorte : Y'all look good in purple [2016-06-17 04:36:15] jet : I'm outta here. good luck guys, make the best of the bullmarket [2016-06-17 04:37:02] rapidtrades : wtf we crashing [2016-06-17 04:37:34] jet : doesn't change the fact it's a bullmarket [2016-06-17 04:37:35] jet : yet [2016-06-17 04:39:51] rapidtrades : i'd rather have a crash now before friday settlement [2016-06-17 04:40:01] j8 : quarterly panicked and the rest followed [2016-06-17 04:40:34] Patriarch : What's happening on Friday? [2016-06-17 04:40:45] rapidtrades : i would panic too if I couldn't buy [2016-06-17 04:41:11] rapidtrades : Patriarch: all longer-dated futures get marked to a new price...rebalance basically [2016-06-17 04:41:18] j8 : well it's panic selling because you know no one else can buy. [2016-06-17 04:41:31] Patriarch : Ahhh [2016-06-17 04:41:32] rapidtrades : and that point is used to calculate any future DPE [2016-06-17 04:41:55] Patriarch : With the bull market as is, it's very reminiscent of previous bubbles [2016-06-17 04:42:04] Patriarch : Looks like it's still got a long way to go before the end of the bubble though [2016-06-17 04:42:07] rapidtrades : it would suck to get marked at +1000 on sept....down 400 this week alone [2016-06-17 04:42:41] j8 : that 6% DPE isn't pretty [2016-06-17 04:43:00] rapidtrades : it's gonna be much worse ont the way down [2016-06-17 04:44:03] j8 : yeah. i think i'm gonna take minimal positions on futures / swap after this week until the volatility calms down [2016-06-17 04:44:08] Patriarch : Do you anticipate the bear to begin soon? Given the fundamentals, there's too much support for a bull as yet, aye? [2016-06-17 04:45:50] rapidtrades : okc shenanigans worry me, could really sink this market temporarily [2016-06-17 04:46:17] elmorte : they lift that cap on quarterly? [2016-06-17 04:46:46] j8 : me too, it sucks that they can so easily put a stop to this rally [2016-06-17 04:46:56] rapidtrades : still at $65 premium so unlikely @elmorte [2016-06-17 04:46:58] j8 : elmorte: still there, people are selling under it though [2016-06-17 04:47:14] elmorte : :/ [2016-06-17 04:47:30] j8 : why hold it if it can't go up [2016-06-17 04:48:02] elmorte : that's really messed up... [2016-06-17 04:48:18] j8 : probably a lot of the market doesn't even know, and are still gauging sentiment off it [2016-06-17 04:50:25] rapidtrades : they have to be running some in house bots and they got stuck short during this rally [2016-06-17 04:50:25] j8 : we can't do another leg up before settlement because that would mean new highs and probably big liquidations, which won't fill if it's capped. [2016-06-17 04:50:44] sizzurp : is now the time to buy more' [2016-06-17 04:51:23] j8 : rapidtrades: that's the most likely explanation [2016-06-17 04:54:23] Mr.Coins : how is it that ETH has went up 3% yet my long from .02809 is in a 30% loss?? [2016-06-17 04:54:56] messiaen8844 : something fucked up ETH swaps, they now run with this huge premium [2016-06-17 04:55:14] Mr.Coins : oh so p/l is based off of index price? [2016-06-17 04:55:24] messiaen8844 : mark price [2016-06-17 04:56:14] Mr.Coins : i see, but can i sell my position for .02899 and still make a profit? [2016-06-17 04:56:22] Mr.Coins : or do i have to sell it at the mark price? [2016-06-17 04:56:41] Mr.Coins : i've never traded on here before lol its a bit different from other futures [2016-06-17 04:56:59] elmorte : Mr.Coins: use a limit order and set your price [2016-06-17 04:57:15] j8 : mark price is just for unrealised pnl (and margin calls) your realised pnl only depends on the price you trade at [2016-06-17 04:57:54] Mr.Coins : okay thanks guys [2016-06-17 04:58:05] elmorte : 2891 seems to be the highest bid atm, so that's what you'd get [2016-06-17 04:58:10] elmorte : 2897 now [2016-06-17 04:58:21] Mr.Coins : cool [2016-06-17 04:58:54] elmorte : And you can price somewhere in between the bid and ask if you don't want to pay the taker fee [2016-06-17 04:59:02] elmorte : and wait until someone fills your order [2016-06-17 05:00:07] messiaen8844 : people, beware of XBJ. You enter a position and then market maker removes all orders, it's an outright scam [2016-06-17 05:00:18] rapidtrades : on biitfinex, will the 'close' button next to my position close everything at market [2016-06-17 05:01:18] j8 : yeah, just don't press it twice [2016-06-17 05:02:13] NukeLaloosh : @j8: can the rebalance take more than the margin assigned to that position? [2016-06-17 05:02:55] j8 : rebalance doesn't take or give, it just moves unrealised pnl to realised [2016-06-17 05:03:03] j8 : do you mean funding? [2016-06-17 05:03:59] NukeLaloosh : no, i meant rebalance. Ok right, so it marks the position to Mark Price, which is the new Entry Price, keeps same Liquidation Price [2016-06-17 05:05:39] j8 : same liquidation price but if you realised some profit, you can remove that and have a closer liquidation price [2016-06-17 05:05:41] NukeLaloosh : but funding is separate, so total exposure could exceed original margin assigned. is that right? [2016-06-17 05:06:02] NukeLaloosh : roger that [2016-06-17 05:06:27] j8 : so two things happen at funding time. longs pay the rate for this session, and the mark price increases based on the rate for the next session [2016-06-17 05:07:16] j8 : so if the next rate is the same, you pay the funding and have an equal unrealised profit, since the mark price is higher [2016-06-17 05:08:14] NukeLaloosh : clear. thanks [2016-06-17 05:09:11] j8 : the rate is only allowed to increase by 0.375%, which is less than the maintenance margin 0.5%, so you can't be liquidated from a single funding event [2016-06-17 05:11:18] NukeLaloosh : what if you were < .875% margin [2016-06-17 05:11:31] NukeLaloosh : the .375% takes you below .5% [2016-06-17 05:11:56] j8 : if you're already close to being liquidated then yes. [2016-06-17 05:12:18] NukeLaloosh : thanks [2016-06-17 05:12:28] j8 : np [2016-06-17 05:12:56] elmorte : The BitMEX calculator rounds up the PNL % to nearest integer... [2016-06-17 05:13:27] elmorte : Any way to adjust that @Bitmex_Sam? [2016-06-17 05:14:44] hi : which countries you acepting to btc [2016-06-17 05:14:46] hi : ? [2016-06-17 05:15:22] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I'll fix that [2016-06-17 05:15:26] elmorte : hi: you should be OK [2016-06-17 05:15:30] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: cheers mate [2016-06-17 05:16:01] hi : which countries you'e acepting to trade in your platform? [2016-06-17 05:17:23] hi : BitMEX_Wally:which countries you'e acepting to trade in your platform? [2016-06-17 05:18:16] elmorte : hi: Unless you're in the USA, I wouldn't worry [2016-06-17 05:18:55] elmorte : or from the USA [2016-06-17 05:19:46] hi : no i'm in china but i don't understand from which contries we can deposited [2016-06-17 05:20:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 60 @ 769.12 [2016-06-17 05:21:12] laisee : hi: there is no fiat deposit, only Bitcoin [2016-06-17 05:21:41] BitMEX_Wally : hi: Sometimes we incorrectly detect Chinese users as US, if this happened to you please email support@bitmex.com [2016-06-17 05:23:46] BitMEX_Wally : messiaen8844: Liquidity on XBJ24H seems to have improved [2016-06-17 05:24:55] messiaen8844 : it's not about improving.. it's about having 0 liquidity and trapping you, you guys should remove this contract [2016-06-17 05:25:23] messiaen8844 : you can't have 100x doing that [2016-06-17 05:25:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12000 @ 767.58 [2016-06-17 05:26:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 146 @ 766.83 [2016-06-17 05:26:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 765.63 [2016-06-17 05:26:52] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: how come all the usernames are uniform now? CCP orders? [2016-06-17 05:27:17] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet: [2016-06-17 05:27:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8500 @ 764.57 [2016-06-17 05:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Not sure, I will ask Sam to fix [2016-06-17 05:27:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12000 @ 762.85 [2016-06-17 05:28:00] elmorte : Cheers..it's a bit livelier with color [2016-06-17 05:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 761.21 [2016-06-17 05:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 760.33 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-17 05:28:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 252895 @ 759.02 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-06-17 05:28:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 757.62 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-17 05:28:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20300 @ 757.76 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 05:28:44] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 757.17 [2016-06-17 05:28:44] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 520 @ 755.31 [2016-06-17 05:28:44] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 757.11 [2016-06-17 05:28:44] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1400 @ 757.17 [2016-06-17 05:28:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 245 @ 754.10 [2016-06-17 05:29:04] arbitrage001 : man [2016-06-17 05:29:14] arbitrage001 : is there going to be dpe [2016-06-17 05:29:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1200 @ 750.80 [2016-06-17 05:29:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 746.40 [2016-06-17 05:29:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3400 @ 747.29 [2016-06-17 05:29:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 746.50 [2016-06-17 05:30:11] elmorte : still no DPE... [2016-06-17 05:30:16] Rado : Rapidtrades told you it's coming [2016-06-17 05:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 155 @ 746.17 [2016-06-17 05:30:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 744.21 [2016-06-17 05:30:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2685 @ 783.99 [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5050 @ 741.71 [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 986 @ 741.53 [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 740.85 [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 742.33 [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 742.04 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 05:31:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 208 @ 741.89 [2016-06-17 05:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9995 @ 736.06 [2016-06-17 05:31:23] elmorte : ugh....here we go [2016-06-17 05:31:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 34125 @ 733.77 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 05:31:42] arbitrage001 : the margin call engine works too slow [2016-06-17 05:31:42] miramm1115 : thanks for clearing DPE on sept [2016-06-17 05:32:12] rapidtrades : burn in hell okc [2016-06-17 05:32:41] arbitrage001 : mark price is not aggressive enough to clear the book [2016-06-17 05:32:44] NukeLaloosh : ethusd melting down [2016-06-17 05:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 150 @ 76794.0 [2016-06-17 05:34:15] elmorte : whoever went long at 725, props [2016-06-17 05:34:25] rapidtrades : surprising we didn't crash sooner with okc shenanigans [2016-06-17 05:34:39] gustavo7 : okcoin? [2016-06-17 05:34:52] gustavo7 : ah filter still there [2016-06-17 05:35:51] elmorte : Got greedy, cancelled my profit taker :/ [2016-06-17 05:36:27] ayy_lmao : was too fast for me to execute an order down there [2016-06-17 05:36:52] 1QaZxSw2 : sorry guys i had to dump 100k contracts just to get DPE donw [2016-06-17 05:36:57] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-06-17 05:36:58] Rado : Elmorte this time the bounce might not be the same as recent days [2016-06-17 05:38:59] elmorte : Rado: I know...but 0.55btc in the bag woulda been nice [2016-06-17 05:39:22] Rado : True [2016-06-17 05:40:31] rapidtrades : indeed [2016-06-17 05:40:58] elmorte : there's always funding...:/ [2016-06-17 05:41:14] rapidtrades : /o [2016-06-17 05:41:30] elmorte : excuse me why I fill my coffee cup with man tears... [2016-06-17 05:41:43] elmorte : while gdmnit [2016-06-17 05:43:53] muf : Hello, anyone know bitmex using what exchange price as their market price? [2016-06-17 05:44:31] elmorte : It's under contract details under your order controls [2016-06-17 05:44:35] arbitrage001 : muf: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex [2016-06-17 05:44:45] aethlios : muf: kaiko index, an average of multiple exchanges [2016-06-17 05:45:02] odieoh : So in the trade history, funding with a negative number was paid to me, not from me, correct? [2016-06-17 05:45:12] rapidtrades : ya [2016-06-17 05:45:17] odieoh : thx [2016-06-17 05:45:39] arbitrage001 : looks like price stablize [2016-06-17 05:45:51] elmorte : arbitrage001: yup...for now. [2016-06-17 05:45:51] odieoh : And if you're long and you sell just before the funding hour, no funding fee? [2016-06-17 05:45:58] elmorte : wth was that about anyway? [2016-06-17 05:45:58] arbitrage001 : whale dump, price recover for another dump [2016-06-17 05:46:12] elmorte : arbitrage001: yeah, sold my BitX longs [2016-06-17 05:46:17] elmorte : before the news hit there... [2016-06-17 05:46:32] arbitrage001 : elmorte: malaysian are pretty slow [2016-06-17 05:46:38] Rado : What news [2016-06-17 05:46:46] elmorte : Rado: the crash... [2016-06-17 05:46:51] arbitrage001 : elmorte: and stupid ... [2016-06-17 05:46:59] elmorte : There a considerable lag to get to Malaysian exchange [2016-06-17 05:47:08] elmorte : so you can usually pre-empt it [2016-06-17 05:47:12] arbitrage001 : elmorte: you heard the news the other day [2016-06-17 05:47:20] arbitrage001 : 5 billions being scammed [2016-06-17 05:47:22] elmorte : I did that with last night's pump and just now with the dump [2016-06-17 05:47:29] arbitrage001 : people fall into ponzi [2016-06-17 05:47:33] arbitrage001 : in 6 months [2016-06-17 05:47:48] elmorte : No man, I've stayed away from news for a few days...depressing [2016-06-17 05:48:00] elmorte : ringgit? [2016-06-17 05:48:05] arbitrage001 : yes [2016-06-17 05:48:13] elmorte : let me google it [2016-06-17 05:48:20] arbitrage001 : you dont go out and talk to local? [2016-06-17 05:48:28] arbitrage001 : i am in the sales line [2016-06-17 05:48:43] arbitrage001 : keeping inviting me into all sort of ponzi [2016-06-17 05:49:19] 1QaZxSw2 : got rekt on the long, but i hope to make it back short. if im mistaken, now i'll be double penentratrd [2016-06-17 05:50:25] rapidtrades : 300k got dumped on okc quterly [2016-06-17 05:50:49] gartan : how long does CashRebalance take? [2016-06-17 05:50:49] micmix : and I don't think it's the end of it [2016-06-17 05:50:51] arbitrage001 : the price recovery was quick [2016-06-17 05:51:15] arbitrage001 : micmix: short it if you think correction not done [2016-06-17 05:51:17] elmorte : arbitrage001: of course I do...but it's so common now it's not even news. Can't find the 5b news, got link? [2016-06-17 05:51:28] Rado : Still down 30 [2016-06-17 05:51:32] prospecta : .nigger [2016-06-17 05:51:33] arbitrage001 : elmorte: no link, heard it on radio [2016-06-17 05:51:40] micmix : arbitrage001: I'm already short sept from yesterday [2016-06-17 05:52:06] Rado : He is short [2016-06-17 05:52:19] Rado : Lol [2016-06-17 05:52:20] rapidtrades : micmix: thank u for ur service [2016-06-17 05:54:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 743.80 [2016-06-17 05:54:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 744.21 [2016-06-17 05:55:27] gartan : does anyone know how long does CashRebalance takes? [2016-06-17 05:55:50] Rado : I will be a buyer at 640 hehe [2016-06-17 05:56:51] aethlios : dump them all..... and pray. [2016-06-17 05:56:59] Rado : Gartan which contract [2016-06-17 05:57:41] aethlios : 535 a good entry. [2016-06-17 05:57:58] arbitrage001 : aethlios: 450 for me [2016-06-17 05:58:15] Rado : Nah [2016-06-17 05:58:21] gartan : Rado: bitcoin 50x [2016-06-17 05:58:22] Rado : 580 [2016-06-17 05:58:35] macios15 : 900 cny for me [2016-06-17 05:59:05] aethlios : 565 is fib 0.38, don't be greedy to ask for lower. [2016-06-17 05:59:10] Rado : 12 hours I think [2016-06-17 05:59:33] Rado : Agreed aethlios [2016-06-17 05:59:39] arbitrage001 : aethlios: price went up too fast in less than a month [2016-06-17 06:00:07] arbitrage001 : anyway, i do not have problem sitting out [2016-06-17 06:00:15] aethlios : fib 0.235 is 515, so 515 to 565 are good entries, noone will accuse you of buying the top. [2016-06-17 06:00:41] Rado : June is an easy short [2016-06-17 06:00:59] arbitrage001 : do it then, redo [2016-06-17 06:01:13] Rado : I did [2016-06-17 06:02:43] rapidtrades : Rado: sept is juicer tho [2016-06-17 06:03:17] arbitrage001 : dangerous [2016-06-17 06:03:31] arbitrage001 : sept almost got dpe big time [2016-06-17 06:03:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 739.05 [2016-06-17 06:03:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 738.79 [2016-06-17 06:04:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 735.08 [2016-06-17 06:04:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40 @ 735.75 [2016-06-17 06:04:26] arbitrage001 : looks like swap is not out of danger zone [2016-06-17 06:04:32] arbitrage001 : yet [2016-06-17 06:04:47] 1QaZxSw2 : some support here [2016-06-17 06:05:50] Rado : Support is at 693, 580, 580 [2016-06-17 06:05:59] Rado : 640 [2016-06-17 06:06:37] 1QaZxSw2 : just reading the tape.... damn thing refuses to go below 730 [2016-06-17 06:06:54] 1QaZxSw2 : im hoping to enter long at 730, 725, 700 [2016-06-17 06:07:03] 1QaZxSw2 : for a quick bounce, nothing ambitious [2016-06-17 06:09:50] gustavo7 : yep, dump moar [2016-06-17 06:09:57] gustavo7 : pls [2016-06-17 06:10:26] 1QaZxSw2 : well there is the bounce, would have got +10 [2016-06-17 06:10:30] 1QaZxSw2 : if i had been filled [2016-06-17 06:17:05] aethlios : 1QaZxSw2: next bounch below 700, 681-685 [2016-06-17 06:18:23] aethlios : always have in mind pivot prices, 700 is a pivot price, buy below for an expected bounce above [2016-06-17 06:18:30] BTCDJS : looks like Im late to the party [2016-06-17 06:18:41] BTCDJS : or am I just in time? [2016-06-17 06:18:57] BTCDJS : How come everyone in the box is blue? [2016-06-17 06:18:58] Rado : In time for round 2 [2016-06-17 06:20:11] BTCDJS : Rado: i could kiss you but I've got bad breath and I want it to be special [2016-06-17 06:20:25] BTCDJS : cos you deserve it [2016-06-17 06:20:41] Rado : Why? [2016-06-17 06:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6290 @ 739.23 [2016-06-17 06:21:04] BTCDJS : cos you said I was in time for round two :D [2016-06-17 06:21:13] Rado : Lol [2016-06-17 06:21:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13201 @ 738.34 [2016-06-17 06:21:32] Rado : Starting as you can see [2016-06-17 06:21:39] BTCDJS : yup [2016-06-17 06:39:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 733.42 [2016-06-17 06:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 731.44 [2016-06-17 06:46:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 730.05 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-06-17 06:49:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 51 @ 729.40 [2016-06-17 06:49:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 728.60 [2016-06-17 06:49:48] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin: [2016-06-17 06:49:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13 @ 728.10 [2016-06-17 06:49:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40500 @ 728.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 06:49:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 728.40 [2016-06-17 06:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 725.62 [2016-06-17 06:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 725.58 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-06-17 06:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 725.50 [2016-06-17 06:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7256 @ 724.60 [2016-06-17 06:51:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 70 @ 724.32 [2016-06-17 06:51:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 130 @ 723.37 [2016-06-17 06:51:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1240 @ 723.01 [2016-06-17 06:51:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 721.62 [2016-06-17 06:51:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2474 @ 722.62 [2016-06-17 06:51:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 721.86 [2016-06-17 06:52:18] Bacon futures trader : lol cya longs [2016-06-17 06:53:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 180 @ 719.49 [2016-06-17 06:53:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1100 @ 718.45 [2016-06-17 06:53:10] BTCDJS : My heart Goes out to all the REKT people. Don't get too angry. Stay sane. [2016-06-17 06:53:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25000 @ 717.21 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 06:53:44] ayy_lmao : ye boi [2016-06-17 06:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2050 @ 715.26 [2016-06-17 06:53:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19 @ 716.19 [2016-06-17 06:53:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 190000 @ 714.35 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: [2016-06-17 06:53:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 9164 @ 941.72 [2016-06-17 06:53:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 322 @ 712.83 [2016-06-17 06:54:06] BTCDJS : Strong support coming up soon [2016-06-17 06:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 712.14 [2016-06-17 06:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1250 @ 712.32 [2016-06-17 06:54:40] micmix : now sept looks better [2016-06-17 06:56:35] BTCDJS : bounce off 660. sideways for a bit down to 580 [2016-06-17 06:57:58] NukeLaloosh : 6.6% premium on ethxbt [2016-06-17 07:07:12] rapidtrades : f okc man [2016-06-17 07:07:50] Bacon futures trader : buy the dip lol [2016-06-17 07:08:22] wurstgelee : haha=) [2016-06-17 07:08:31] Bacon futures trader : This is going to rubberband if we hold up [2016-06-17 07:08:35] wurstgelee : i eventually will once i have decided where it stops dumping [2016-06-17 07:08:41] wurstgelee : i woldnt call it a dip tho [2016-06-17 07:08:54] Bacon futures trader : Retest of previousbreakout zone [2016-06-17 07:08:56] migz : good short on eth :P [2016-06-17 07:09:10] migz : 1k available up for grams. [2016-06-17 07:09:12] NukeLaloosh : ridiculous!! [2016-06-17 07:09:15] migz : brab. lel [2016-06-17 07:09:31] NukeLaloosh : it's almost 8% ! [2016-06-17 07:10:03] NukeLaloosh : there it goes!! [2016-06-17 07:10:32] migz : Finally someone grab it. lol [2016-06-17 07:12:41] rapidtrades : bull or bear guys [2016-06-17 07:12:54] Bacon futures trader : How do I place a stop loss on a position? [2016-06-17 07:13:09] migz : probably bear weak ahead. [2016-06-17 07:16:25] aethlios : swap lovume very strong. 15k at 730 is 11 mil. [2016-06-17 07:20:37] rapidtrades : wtf happened [2016-06-17 07:21:03] rapidtrades : i blinked and we're $20 higher [2016-06-17 07:21:05] rapidtrades : like wtf [2016-06-17 07:22:22] Bacon futures trader : Time to liquidate those shorts [2016-06-17 07:22:39] migz : Maybe liquidate longs? all week? lmao [2016-06-17 07:22:51] muf : what shorts? [2016-06-17 07:23:40] rapidtrades : yeah u all liquidate each other [2016-06-17 07:26:46] rapidtrades : that was almost 10% dump [2016-06-17 07:27:08] rapidtrades : where is everyone? QQing in the corner? [2016-06-17 07:27:46] aethlios : we are here. [2016-06-17 07:35:36] Mr Blue : Omg guys I should of kept my 25000 short lol, ended up taking a small loss on it as was scared lol [2016-06-17 07:37:36] Mr Blue : I meant the short I has last night at 771 [2016-06-17 07:37:54] Mr Blue : Had* [2016-06-17 07:39:36] Bacon futures trader : Dang [2016-06-17 07:39:58] Bacon futures trader : Anyone can tell me how I place a stop loss on a position? [2016-06-17 07:40:33] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: If you are long, place a Stop Market order to Sell [2016-06-17 07:40:55] aethlios : wait 20 minutes for okcoin to expire and market action will resume [2016-06-17 07:41:02] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: what position you in?? [2016-06-17 07:41:25] Bacon futures trader : Thanks @BitMEX_Wally [2016-06-17 07:41:34] Bacon futures trader : I'm long [2016-06-17 07:41:57] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hello, we all have the same chat color [2016-06-17 07:42:02] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: I know that I meant entry price sorry [2016-06-17 07:42:12] Bacon futures trader : 719 avg [2016-06-17 07:42:30] BitMEX_Wally : I have a special :bitmex: logo [2016-06-17 07:42:44] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: then just sell now your in profit lol thought you was taking a loss [2016-06-17 07:43:32] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: I'd just set a limit order at 733 [2016-06-17 07:43:49] Bacon futures trader : Nope, not trying to scalp $10 [2016-06-17 07:44:52] men : are we going down? :( [2016-06-17 07:45:23] Mr Blue : Well more like $13 and if you had 30 btc worth it soon adds up 30 x 13 = $390 [2016-06-17 07:46:10] Bacon futures trader : Meh doesn't work in the long term imo [2016-06-17 07:46:26] Bacon futures trader : 1 Big loser equals many small pofits [2016-06-17 07:48:08] migz : good shrort on eth again :) [2016-06-17 07:48:20] justinlooking : hmmm [2016-06-17 07:48:26] Mr Blue : Possibly, but that's why we have leverage, to turn 3 btc in to 30, or w.e you like to play. [2016-06-17 07:48:54] migz : 270 ethm here 2880. lel [2016-06-17 07:50:59] Bacon futures trader : We need to regain 4900 cny and then trade back to 5000 cny value zone [2016-06-17 07:51:03] Mr Blue : Why you guys all got my colour you bloody copy cats [2016-06-17 07:51:26] Bacon futures trader : Moon if we squeeze above highs [2016-06-17 07:55:38] Mr Blue : Sell pressure at 800 seems too great, I think we'll be playing in the $700 sand pit till block reward halving [2016-06-17 07:56:29] BTCDJS : anyone holding DAO get out now [2016-06-17 07:57:08] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/743712374822100992 [2016-06-17 08:04:16] BitMEX_Wally : Anyone holding DAO with a split open. Not anyone holding DAO. [2016-06-17 08:04:48] BTCDJS : I believe I have been corrected [2016-06-17 08:05:07] BTCDJS : excuse me [2016-06-17 08:05:32] sq : BitMEX_Wally: is funding added to unrealised pnl? [2016-06-17 08:05:51] sq : or is it added straight into wallet balance, which is what i think? [2016-06-17 08:05:51] sq : tks [2016-06-17 08:05:56] migz : Yes correct, but it'll be used as FUD. [2016-06-17 08:05:58] BitMEX_Wally : sq: Funding goes straight into the wallet via realisedPnl [2016-06-17 08:06:10] sq : ic ok [2016-06-17 08:06:13] sq : cool [2016-06-17 08:08:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 10 @ 0.00859 [2016-06-17 08:08:18] billz : whoever was inflating the price of ETH just got rekted [2016-06-17 08:09:57] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/743716715326955520 [2016-06-17 08:10:09] aethlios : wait for brexit results, If Britain stays, then sell of happens so buy there. [2016-06-17 08:10:26] podizzle3k : RIP eth [2016-06-17 08:10:43] migz : Ouch [2016-06-17 08:11:03] podizzle3k : DAO #HACKING "The DAO is being attacked. It has been going on for 3-4 hours, it is draining ETH at a rapid rate. This is not a drill." [2016-06-17 08:11:15] NukeLaloosh : why is no one attacking this MM on ethxbt? [2016-06-17 08:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 49 @ 0.00830 [2016-06-17 08:12:23] aethlios : eth crashing now [2016-06-17 08:12:25] NukeLaloosh : 5% premium [2016-06-17 08:13:09] aethlios : people polo say dao hacked, dao -30% lol 150 mil. invested [2016-06-17 08:13:15] NukeLaloosh : arthur whats up here? no liquidity [2016-06-17 08:13:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 30 @ 0.00778 [2016-06-17 08:13:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 2 @ 0.00799 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-17 08:13:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 190 @ 0.00789 [2016-06-17 08:13:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 12 @ 0.00822 [2016-06-17 08:13:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 3 @ 0.00763 :punch: :whale: [2016-06-17 08:13:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `DAOETH`: Sell 29 @ 0.00755 [2016-06-17 08:13:50] men : dao is hacked [2016-06-17 08:14:07] men : wow it's real [2016-06-17 08:14:12] mjones : ETH longers doomed [2016-06-17 08:14:14] BitMEX_Arthur : NukeLaloosh: you are free to provide more I think Bitcoin has sucked up a lot of liquidity of a few market makers [2016-06-17 08:14:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 35 @ 0.001307 [2016-06-17 08:15:14] men : i was thinking it's a joke... dao hacked..... :( [2016-06-17 08:15:22] migz : so dao eth funds are hacked. yikes [2016-06-17 08:15:23] supermine : Somebody join https://thedao.slack.com/messages/general/ [2016-06-17 08:15:34] supermine : TheDAO needs help from the exchanges operators it seems [2016-06-17 08:15:50] men : now all the ethereum whales comes to bitcoin :D [2016-06-17 08:16:03] Mr Blue : aethlios: lol how do you hack a cryptocurrency?, you mean their crap exchange got hacked, but in reality DAO people or the exchange will of just robbed everybody. [2016-06-17 08:16:03] BitMEX_Arthur : So is DAO fucked? [2016-06-17 08:16:20] BitMEX_Arthur : yea how do you hack it? [2016-06-17 08:16:35] supermine : I am not down with the technicals [2016-06-17 08:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 161 @ 0.02340 [2016-06-17 08:16:43] supermine : but its eems Kraken did already stop trading the dao [2016-06-17 08:17:33] BitMEX_Arthur : Wow [2016-06-17 08:17:46] men : dao price on polo is getting lower and lower [2016-06-17 08:17:48] men : this is insane [2016-06-17 08:17:58] aethlios : dao problem means eth blockchain is also doomed?? eth goes to shit. [2016-06-17 08:18:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 29520 @ 0.02319 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-06-17 08:18:18] billz : YESS was waiting for this [2016-06-17 08:18:22] Mr Blue : Damn too late to short it lol [2016-06-17 08:18:26] billz : shorted that idiot too [2016-06-17 08:18:35] supermine : I am in the DAO with huge coin, please a rep of bitmex join channel / slack and discuss with community leaders what to do [2016-06-17 08:19:20] migz : Woah! [2016-06-17 08:19:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 40 @ 0.02297 [2016-06-17 08:19:33] j8 : not bitmex's problem as long as the DAOETH market can function [2016-06-17 08:19:35] migz : MEGA KILL [2016-06-17 08:19:38] billz : this will be bad if we break 0.022 [2016-06-17 08:20:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02271 [2016-06-17 08:20:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 240 @ 0.02268 [2016-06-17 08:20:22] migz : Who shorted at 2880? congrats :D [2016-06-17 08:20:40] micmix : I closed my short way too early