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[2016-06-16 09:53:37] dharmabum : if holding BTC, one is long. setting stops implies stopping to another currency, no?
[2016-06-16 09:54:04] kogroken : I wouldn't place stops to enter positions when I'm sleeping, although I guess that could be made to work, but I'd prefer some more advanced bot in that case that could set up stop losses for the opened positions.
[2016-06-16 09:54:38] dharmabum : kogroken: how would you go flat overnight? to USD for example...
[2016-06-16 09:55:15] kogroken : dharmabum: If I sleep with a position open, I usually have a stoploss. I'm sleeping with plain BTC all the time :P
[2016-06-16 09:55:31] kogroken : I meant stoplosses for leveraged positions.
[2016-06-16 09:55:42] dharmabum : kogroken: heh heh. OK yeah, many ppl are at the moment lol.
[2016-06-16 09:55:53] dharmabum : kogroken: gotcha. yep
[2016-06-16 09:56:25] kogroken : I have found it useful to try to maximize BTC instead of USD.
[2016-06-16 09:56:52] dharmabum : kogroken: it is something of a roller-coaster.
[2016-06-16 09:57:23] kogroken : (Of course the end goal is to try to maximize value, so if BTC starts to look broken and down I'd go to fiat or elsewhere)
[2016-06-16 09:57:51] kogroken : Yeah, volatility is high when we are in bubble territory.
[2016-06-16 10:02:39] dharmabum : kogroken: hey, thanks for your thoughts.
[2016-06-16 10:03:08] kogroken : you are welcome, for what they are worth.
[2016-06-16 10:03:12] dharmabum : kogroken: what if BTC starts to look broken while you sleep :-)
[2016-06-16 10:03:46] dharmabum : kogroken: I appreciate peoples' perspectives…
[2016-06-16 10:03:56] aethlios : Tim Draper in profit.....
[2016-06-16 10:04:13] dharmabum : aethlios: well in the money.
[2016-06-16 10:04:36] kogroken : I was thinking of fundamental issues. I'm expecting to have enough time to exit in a day or so, if I keep up with the news (there's always some risk that it will just crash overnight as well thou)
[2016-06-16 10:05:23] dharmabum : kogroken: where would you go to fiat? okcoin?
[2016-06-16 10:05:43] dharmabum : haha. okcoin < økcøin
[2016-06-16 10:06:03] dharmabum : lol. somebody has a sense of humor.
[2016-06-16 10:06:36] dharmabum : poloniex
[2016-06-16 10:06:37] kogroken : dharmabum: If I want to buy some fiat and transfer it out I'd probably do it at some of the more reputable exchanges.
[2016-06-16 10:06:58] kogroken : Oh, it autoconverts okcoin? :P
[2016-06-16 10:07:01] dharmabum : kogroken: what about USDT?
[2016-06-16 10:07:16] dharmabum : kogroken: yes, autoconverts. wonder what else does?
[2016-06-16 10:07:16] elmorte : I don 't get the reference...does woodchipper mean something else as well?
[2016-06-16 10:07:37] dharmabum : Fargo?
[2016-06-16 10:08:31] kogroken : dharmabum: Is USDT the tether thing?
[2016-06-16 10:08:46] kogroken : I guess it could be used for arbitrage.
[2016-06-16 10:08:56] dharmabum : kogroken: yes, but I'm wondering where it is best traded.
[2016-06-16 10:09:36] dharmabum : poloniex, but liquidity terrible.
[2016-06-16 10:09:50] kogroken : Dunno, I don't expect that it has very high liquidity.
[2016-06-16 10:12:43] dharmabum : bitfinex a partner but no trading
[2016-06-16 10:14:07] dharmabum : kogroken: poloniex offering USDT/BTC @733 :(
[2016-06-16 10:14:31] dharmabum : US$3 spread.
[2016-06-16 10:17:33] kogroken : I'm comfortable holding BTC, but if you really wanted to keep USD on an exchange then bitfinex is an option
[2016-06-16 10:17:58] dharmabum : kogroken: thx!
[2016-06-16 10:18:02] dharmabum : goodnight all.
[2016-06-16 10:18:21] kogroken : night
[2016-06-16 10:26:08] jung1 : protip: tommorow waves will be on bittrex and polo
[2016-06-16 10:37:47] wurstgelee : jung1: i bought some yesterday at yobit
[2016-06-16 10:37:50] wurstgelee : worth a gamble imo ;)
[2016-06-16 10:38:40] elmorte : you bought actual ones or IOUs?
[2016-06-16 10:39:00] jung1 : iou
[2016-06-16 10:39:04] jung1 : it start tommorow
[2016-06-16 10:39:21] elmorte : ahhh...then prob not worth the gamble
[2016-06-16 10:39:27] elmorte : I missed out on the ICO
[2016-06-16 10:39:57] jung1 : I bought some
[2016-06-16 10:40:04] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.0
[2016-06-16 10:40:50] jung1 : I invested same money in lisk, waves
[2016-06-16 10:42:42] elmorte : lucky you...
[2016-06-16 10:42:42] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477055.0 wings looks promissing also
[2016-06-16 10:43:52] elmorte : Wings closed already....I still haven't gotten my money back from The DAO so I'm not keen on any eth tokens
[2016-06-16 10:46:39] jung1 : I did not touch dao
[2016-06-16 10:46:57] elmorte : you said
[2016-06-16 10:47:34] elmorte : I was carried by the lisk momentum :) Plus eth was just sitting there...
[2016-06-16 10:48:38] elmorte : is that 1500 eth to run a node thing confirmed yet?
[2016-06-16 10:49:10] jung1 : thats the plan
[2016-06-16 10:49:18] jung1 : but dont know its official
[2016-06-16 10:50:17] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512202.0 waves clone. now you have to only make nice graphic, fresh idea and good text to collect money in ico
[2016-06-16 10:50:22] futuretrader : how do remove indicators
[2016-06-16 10:50:25] jung1 : maybe we will make one?
[2016-06-16 10:50:51] jung1 : futuretrader: click on them
[2016-06-16 10:51:45] futuretrader : jung1: it just maximizes it
[2016-06-16 10:51:58] jung1 : click on name
[2016-06-16 10:52:08] jung1 : same as ju turn on them
[2016-06-16 10:52:30] jung1 : or click right and 'hide"
[2016-06-16 10:52:31] futuretrader : i did it just made more
[2016-06-16 10:53:29] jung1 : or click right and 'reset chart'
[2016-06-16 10:56:14] futuretrader : not working
[2016-06-16 10:56:36] elmorte : is your computer plugged in?
[2016-06-16 10:57:34] jung1 : switch monitor
[2016-06-16 11:01:01] men : are waves coming to polo today?
[2016-06-16 11:01:59] jung1 : tommorow
[2016-06-16 11:03:05] jung1 : https://wp.stakepool.com/2016/06/16/waves-is-launching-on-bittrex-poloniex-tomorrow-this-is-what-you-need-to-know-bitcoin-wavesplatform/
[2016-06-16 11:03:21] men : jung1: thank you very much :D
[2016-06-16 11:03:37] jung1 : np
[2016-06-16 11:03:47] jung1 : 36855 satoshi was ico price per 1 waves
[2016-06-16 11:03:53] jung1 : could be fun
[2016-06-16 11:13:59] men : jung1: yeah so much funny :D :D
[2016-06-16 11:15:07] lockhedge : agreement on EU financial transaction tax reached
[2016-06-16 11:15:50] jung1 : tl;dr?
[2016-06-16 11:16:01] luckynuke : hey lads
[2016-06-16 11:16:12] jung1 : its official
[2016-06-16 11:16:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 90000 @ 743.26 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-16 11:16:30] jung1 : netherlands change their name to etherlands
[2016-06-16 11:17:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1290 @ 744.11
[2016-06-16 11:19:09] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: I want to close my position before funding. Entry price was 742.4 and if I sell at 744, I will profit right? The price on unrealised pnl is based on mark price?
[2016-06-16 11:19:16] luckynuke : EPIC rekt !
[2016-06-16 11:19:34] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: yes
[2016-06-16 11:19:53] BTCDJS : as long as you exit above the entry price
[2016-06-16 11:20:01] BTCDJS : long
[2016-06-16 11:20:13] BTCDJS : but do not use close market
[2016-06-16 11:20:44] laurenssteen : Just to be sure because i've never closed a position with a lower mark price but a higher sell
[2016-06-16 11:22:12] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: if you set a limit order to sell at 748 now. The order will be filled by the order book. by someone moving against you. so anyone in red
[2016-06-16 11:22:18] rapidtrades : finally a great month both in forex and crypto
[2016-06-16 11:22:31] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: but this is going higher
[2016-06-16 11:23:14] rapidtrades : ok it's an good forex month not grrat
[2016-06-16 11:24:37] jung1 : rapidtrades: what do you think, how forex will react on brexit?
[2016-06-16 11:24:48] rapidtrades : awesome
[2016-06-16 11:25:12] rapidtrades : vote is so thin it will have great volatility either way
[2016-06-16 11:25:31] jung1 : its 24th of june right?
[2016-06-16 11:25:44] rapidtrades : 23rd
[2016-06-16 11:25:55] rapidtrades : in 1 week
[2016-06-16 11:26:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3550 @ 747.44
[2016-06-16 11:28:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 750.22
[2016-06-16 11:28:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 728 @ 750.14
[2016-06-16 11:29:15] wurstgelee : isnt it bautiful? :D
[2016-06-16 11:29:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 3500 @ 78741.00000
[2016-06-16 11:29:21] wurstgelee : *beautiful
[2016-06-16 11:29:30] futuretrader : sell side on bitcoin so weak
[2016-06-16 11:29:42] jung1 : bitcoin was better at $400
[2016-06-16 11:30:04] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: think we will see 810 in bitmex? Or am I being too optimistic?
[2016-06-16 11:30:14] futuretrader : there will be a fall in bitcoin but question is when
[2016-06-16 11:30:33] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: don't want to sell right now, but the funding is extremely high
[2016-06-16 11:30:40] Blargwaffle : When China's debt crisis is over.
[2016-06-16 11:30:59] rapidtrades : June 17th at 14:30 UTC (7:30 PST, 10:30 EST, 22:30 HKT) we will be making infrastructure upgrades that require us to pause all site operations for the duration of the upgrade (~60 minutes).
[2016-06-16 11:31:07] ayy_lmao : if i close my position in profit after re- balancing, will i have access to those funds to trade, or do i need to close it before
[2016-06-16 11:31:08] rapidtrades : ^^^ they can not be srs
[2016-06-16 11:31:21] rapidtrades : finex is the dumbest crypto exchngaes iswear
[2016-06-16 11:32:13] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: yeah its a bitch. but IMO this is the last leg up. so Its probably worth it to stick it out
[2016-06-16 11:32:25] j8 : yeah, so the index will be half frozen.. that's gonna be brutal
[2016-06-16 11:33:29] rapidtrades : no doubt they're gonna rollout some stupid lil change
[2016-06-16 11:33:38] Blargwaffle : 火币
[2016-06-16 11:33:40] rapidtrades : that will make their shitty site laaag even more
[2016-06-16 11:33:44] rapidtrades : useless cunts
[2016-06-16 11:34:19] Blargwaffle : Fire Credits? Burning money...
[2016-06-16 11:35:29] rapidtrades : burn those monies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-06-16 11:35:33] rapidtrades : burn emmmmmm
[2016-06-16 11:35:51] Blargwaffle : Maybe huobi should be the incinerator.
[2016-06-16 11:36:06] rapidtrades : complete site is so laggy its not usable for me right now
[2016-06-16 11:36:13] rapidtrades : this always happens whenever there's a move
[2016-06-16 11:36:19] rapidtrades : useless f exchange
[2016-06-16 11:38:42] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: ok
[2016-06-16 11:38:55] billz : dat dip doe
[2016-06-16 11:39:09] lockhedge : is there an issue with kaiko (index, mark price is updating very slowly)? @BitMEX
[2016-06-16 11:39:29] BTCDJS : daaaaayyyyyyaaaaaam
[2016-06-16 11:39:50] billz : regardless of funding rate, might be worth it to buy in here
[2016-06-16 11:40:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 745.29
[2016-06-16 11:40:27] billz : i'll wait though
[2016-06-16 11:40:44] BTCDJS : is this the dump?
[2016-06-16 11:40:49] BTCDJS : WTF
[2016-06-16 11:41:56] rapidtrades : why is the kaiko index lagging so much
[2016-06-16 11:42:14] rapidtrades : move the f down u pos
[2016-06-16 11:43:11] rapidtrades : srsly index should be $10 lower why not
[2016-06-16 11:43:16] billz : it says 743 on the site too, maybe because okcoin didn't dump
[2016-06-16 11:43:23] rapidtrades : 728
[2016-06-16 11:43:48] rapidtrades : finex 728
[2016-06-16 11:43:56] rapidtrades : fix ur stupid index
[2016-06-16 11:43:57] billz : oh wait nah
[2016-06-16 11:44:04] billz : it's at 737
[2016-06-16 11:44:18] rapidtrades : i was told there's only a 5s lag
[2016-06-16 11:44:22] rapidtrades : is this not accurate
[2016-06-16 11:44:28] lockhedge : non-frozen index here https://robotfinance.org/bix/beta/
[2016-06-16 11:44:52] rapidtrades : dude i have okc and finex open, i don't need the index to see that smth is wrong
[2016-06-16 11:45:10] rapidtrades : support ur index is wrong
[2016-06-16 11:45:34] rapidtrades : move the f index and wrecks some longs god damit
[2016-06-16 11:45:35] billz : yeah someone hurry and fix this before funding rate kicks in
[2016-06-16 11:45:37] laurenssteen : WTF that stupid index
[2016-06-16 11:45:40] aethlios : XBT spot doesn't update
[2016-06-16 11:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 736.24
[2016-06-16 11:46:56] rapidtrades : finally
[2016-06-16 11:47:04] BTCDJS : WTF is going on here?
[2016-06-16 11:47:06] rapidtrades : only 1k tho
[2016-06-16 11:47:09] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-16 11:47:16] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: they just updated the index
[2016-06-16 11:47:18] donatan : why was is showing wrong market price
[2016-06-16 11:47:25] billz : word now it can lag lower lol
[2016-06-16 11:47:28] donatan : in open positions and in chart?
[2016-06-16 11:47:46] rapidtrades : no clue
[2016-06-16 11:47:52] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ok
[2016-06-16 11:50:07] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so this is an artificial dump?
[2016-06-16 11:51:35] rapidtrades : looks like a real dump to me
[2016-06-16 11:51:36] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-16 11:51:43] donatan : bitmex are you here?
[2016-06-16 11:51:51] Blargwaffle : The site is still here.
[2016-06-16 11:51:53] donatan : anyone ?
[2016-06-16 11:51:57] donatan : anyone from bitmex
[2016-06-16 11:52:17] BTCDJS : Ah FFS
[2016-06-16 11:52:21] laurenssteen : how much is the actual mark price right now?
[2016-06-16 11:52:35] BTCDJS : 732
[2016-06-16 11:52:47] rapidtrades : 732 should be accurate
[2016-06-16 11:53:00] rapidtrades : it will jump in 8 mins tho due to new fee
[2016-06-16 11:53:07] donatan : if I click close at market price will it start taking it from the book or will it close the whole thing by market price?
[2016-06-16 11:53:18] rapidtrades : orderbook
[2016-06-16 11:53:26] donatan : so the market price is useless
[2016-06-16 11:53:34] donatan : and lies
[2016-06-16 11:53:38] ayy_lmao : not really
[2016-06-16 11:53:39] rapidtrades : the mark price is only there for liquidation
[2016-06-16 11:53:59] donatan : i see, but the caprions on the chart,
[2016-06-16 11:54:06] donatan : it also is based on marketprice
[2016-06-16 11:54:07] rapidtrades : in 7 mins u'll get the mark price ...are u short or long
[2016-06-16 11:54:10] donatan : which is not true
[2016-06-16 11:54:28] donatan : it says prifit/loss but its not true profit
[2016-06-16 11:54:42] rapidtrades : u got that right sparky
[2016-06-16 11:54:44] ayy_lmao : well thats with all exchanges
[2016-06-16 11:54:47] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: longs with negative pal don't pay funding
[2016-06-16 11:54:52] ayy_lmao : there is always slippage
[2016-06-16 11:54:52] BTCDJS : PNL
[2016-06-16 11:55:01] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: that's not true
[2016-06-16 11:55:08] donatan : maybe it is but why wont it calculate based on book
[2016-06-16 11:55:11] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: thats what wally told me
[2016-06-16 11:55:18] rapidtrades : they don't pay DPE, every long pay the fee
[2016-06-16 11:55:31] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: as long you are long you have to pay the funding normally
[2016-06-16 11:55:45] Blargwaffle : Every position participates in funding.
[2016-06-16 11:55:53] Blargwaffle : Profitable positions participate in DPE.
[2016-06-16 11:55:57] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: why did he tell me that?
[2016-06-16 11:55:58] BitMEX_Wally : Correct
[2016-06-16 11:56:01] ayy_lmao : oh, u will need to use the calculator for your true pnl
[2016-06-16 11:56:14] ayy_lmao : still waiting on a accurate pnl feature here
[2016-06-16 11:56:16] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-06-16 11:56:33] BitMEX_Wally : I have added marginBalance and fee (DPE) to the wallet history
[2016-06-16 11:56:46] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: people with negative PNL still pay the funding fee?
[2016-06-16 11:56:52] rapidtrades : cool tnx @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-16 11:56:55] BitMEX_Wally : So that pending CashRebalance includes all your PNL minus DPE
[2016-06-16 11:57:12] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: Anyone who is long pays a positive funding fee, it is included in the maintenance margin
[2016-06-16 11:57:27] BTCDJS : damnit
[2016-06-16 11:57:48] BitMEX_Wally : But after funding the price will rise, so you'll get it back as unrealised profit
[2016-06-16 11:58:03] laurenssteen : BitMEX_Wally: why is the funding fee that much higher then let's say 15 days ago
[2016-06-16 11:58:22] BitMEX_Wally : Because more retail demand going long on the swap
[2016-06-16 11:58:30] rapidtrades : they're adding the premium in now @laurenssteen
[2016-06-16 11:58:33] BitMEX_Wally : Probably something to do with the price of Bitcoin going up 20%
[2016-06-16 11:59:06] laurenssteen : BitMEX_Wally: how is it calculated
[2016-06-16 11:59:36] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#premium-index
[2016-06-16 11:59:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: i believe ur index is f again
[2016-06-16 11:59:56] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Which index `.XBT`?
[2016-06-16 12:00:04] Blargwaffle : It looks ok...
[2016-06-16 12:00:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 516586 @ 731.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-16 12:00:25] ayy_lmao : l o l
[2016-06-16 12:00:43] BitMEX_Wally : That's the same liquidation order
[2016-06-16 12:00:47] BitMEX_Wally : It gets resubmitted after the rebalance
[2016-06-16 12:00:59] ayy_lmao : yah so how do we fix dpe
[2016-06-16 12:01:06] BTCDJS : WTF?
[2016-06-16 12:01:16] rapidtrades : prices go down, only way to fix dpe
[2016-06-16 12:01:19] ayy_lmao : oh price moved fast
[2016-06-16 12:01:23] ayy_lmao : i see it
[2016-06-16 12:01:26] BTCDJS : thats an expensive funding fee
[2016-06-16 12:01:31] Blargwaffle : DPE should fix itself over time.
[2016-06-16 12:01:38] Blargwaffle : Unless there's some sharp spot movement.
[2016-06-16 12:02:01] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalance brings the liquidation order up to the spot price
[2016-06-16 12:02:50] ayy_lmao : k
[2016-06-16 12:04:17] bdo : dunno
[2016-06-16 12:04:28] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: were you badly affected?
[2016-06-16 12:04:39] bdo : but luckily we get long before that was triggered
[2016-06-16 12:05:07] BitMEX_Wally : There was no DPE
[2016-06-16 12:05:17] bdo : wrong chat
[2016-06-16 12:05:37] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: had a pos of 50k so yup
[2016-06-16 12:05:43] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-16 12:06:02] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: That stupid little dump
[2016-06-16 12:06:38] BTCDJS : Im still holding.
[2016-06-16 12:07:07] laurenssteen : BTCDJS: me2
[2016-06-16 12:07:19] BTCDJS : laurenssteen: fingers crossed
[2016-06-16 12:08:11] yerb : who sold into the wall?
[2016-06-16 12:08:31] laurenssteen : no way I'm paying that next f fund
[2016-06-16 12:08:37] ayy_lmao : gat damn
[2016-06-16 12:08:39] rapidtrades : ppl with money @yerb
[2016-06-16 12:08:40] ayy_lmao : 0.8
[2016-06-16 12:10:22] BTCDJS : all or nothing 800
[2016-06-16 12:10:29] Mr Blue : Any guestimates for today?? 755 or 705??
[2016-06-16 12:10:56] Bacon futures trader : 5000 cny is the sweetspot
[2016-06-16 12:11:07] rapidtrades : we never got there tho
[2016-06-16 12:11:09] rapidtrades : 4950
[2016-06-16 12:11:17] Bacon futures trader : not yet
[2016-06-16 12:11:32] rapidtrades : its possible that we dont get there :)
[2016-06-16 12:11:39] Bacon futures trader : That is correct
[2016-06-16 12:11:52] Bacon futures trader : But trend is still up so plan on buying the dip
[2016-06-16 12:11:53] rapidtrades : tnx ur validation means smth to me
[2016-06-16 12:11:57] rapidtrades : not a lot, but smth
[2016-06-16 12:12:03] BTCDJS : shut up you two. we are getting there
[2016-06-16 12:12:08] Bacon futures trader : lmao
[2016-06-16 12:12:27] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: have u opened other accounts elsewhere?
[2016-06-16 12:12:34] Mr Blue : To us Brits we just moved past £500 at 520 now so a drop down to 500 isn't impossible
[2016-06-16 12:12:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yes
[2016-06-16 12:12:43] Mr Blue : Bacon futures trader: cool
[2016-06-16 12:13:05] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: cool
[2016-06-16 12:13:21] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: but i prefer here
[2016-06-16 12:17:03] Mr Blue : Shorted 1000 at 741
[2016-06-16 12:17:32] billz : This is looking similar to what happened in 4700 cny area with the big dip to 4590, retrace and then bigger dip to 4480
[2016-06-16 12:19:36] yerb : liquidation wall moving higher, wtf
[2016-06-16 12:20:15] Mr Blue : yerb: good it gets to 741 I'll start shorting more on it lol
[2016-06-16 12:20:17] BTCDJS : yerb: you paid the fee out of you maintenance margin
[2016-06-16 12:20:19] yerb : this is bullshit, we would go lower if it wasnt so high
[2016-06-16 12:23:21] rapidtrades : calm down pl0x
[2016-06-16 12:28:10] rapidtrades : rally done for today imo....maybe we'll get smth around okc settlement
[2016-06-16 12:33:15] Mr Blue : It looks like it's over when you consider sell pressure is now greater on fiñex then buy pressure all way down to $500, but I've seen it turn around in the blink of an eye, however I'm to be a little risky and short from 740+ got a little $1000 short in already, entry 741
[2016-06-16 12:33:44] Mr Blue : I'm going to be a little risky*
[2016-06-16 12:38:22] Mr Blue : Not -2000 at 740.61, haha I should try short higher than first time, idiot
[2016-06-16 12:38:42] Mr Blue : Now -2000*
[2016-06-16 12:52:08] Mr Blue : Now -6000 average entry 740.20... but I think I'll leave it at that, so I can double up if it goes 750
[2016-06-16 12:57:01] podizzle3k : sup trollbox
[2016-06-16 12:57:22] podizzle3k : 08:20 - yerb: this is bullshit, we would go lower if it wasnt so high
[2016-06-16 12:57:26] podizzle3k : haha wtf
[2016-06-16 12:58:11] podizzle3k : reminds me of the shitcoin holders "if everyone would stop selling the price wouldn't go down!"
[2016-06-16 12:59:11] justinlooking : podizzle3k: tbf he was talking about the 400k liq that kept moving up
[2016-06-16 12:59:32] podizzle3k : looks like it cleared up
[2016-06-16 12:59:46] justinlooking : yeh, about 300k at 439
[2016-06-16 12:59:57] justinlooking : *739
[2016-06-16 12:59:59] podizzle3k : wow it dipped all the way to 439
[2016-06-16 13:00:08] podizzle3k : aww u beat me
[2016-06-16 13:00:14] justinlooking : soz, old habbits
[2016-06-16 13:00:47] podizzle3k : yeah i know what you mean
[2016-06-16 13:01:02] podizzle3k : i was so confused yesterday i was saying the price was 6650 cny
[2016-06-16 13:01:51] podizzle3k : i guess the xbt index is about $3 higher than finex surprisingly
[2016-06-16 13:07:01] men : another leg up? :D
[2016-06-16 13:10:21] NukeLaloosh : question: `Funding Basis`is used to adjust spot to `mark price` only with XBTUSD?
[2016-06-16 13:12:25] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: how come I never get ref fee's? Are you guys trying to say I'm cheating? Because I've not even set up a second account yet lol, they're some of my Facebook friends from one post I did so far to help the site.
[2016-06-16 13:12:53] podizzle3k : men i dont think it counts as another leg up if the price just took a leg down
[2016-06-16 13:14:05] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: its great if u btfd tho
[2016-06-16 13:14:09] wurstgelee : doesnt matter if leg or not
[2016-06-16 13:14:10] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-06-16 13:15:35] podizzle3k : i like turtles
[2016-06-16 13:15:58] wurstgelee : i prefer beef tbh
[2016-06-16 13:18:17] podizzle3k : you just offended all our hindu users
[2016-06-16 13:18:34] wurstgelee : sok
[2016-06-16 13:19:16] Mr Blue : podizzle3k: sure because eating wild cow is much better than a domesticated, somebody should tell the buf is wild beef lol
[2016-06-16 13:19:28] Mr Blue : Tell them*
[2016-06-16 13:20:19] wurstgelee : damn u rebalancing
[2016-06-16 13:20:51] wurstgelee : every time same thing. almost heart attack because upnl suddenly way smaller
[2016-06-16 13:20:55] podizzle3k : haha
[2016-06-16 13:21:34] podizzle3k : go hover your mouse over entry price and console yourself
[2016-06-16 13:21:35] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: yes only XBTUSD for now has Funding Premium
[2016-06-16 13:21:36] wurstgelee : went from 310% to now 60%
[2016-06-16 13:21:43] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: yes, that helps
[2016-06-16 13:21:46] wurstgelee : a lot :D
[2016-06-16 13:22:27] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Please ask your friends how much they have traded and if you believe your Affiliate Status page is incorrect then email support with a copy of your friends' trades and we will investigate
[2016-06-16 13:23:00] podizzle3k : eth bidder is playing with fire knowing that funding premium is coming
[2016-06-16 13:23:13] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: I'm asking not about premium, but about position marking
[2016-06-16 13:23:21] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: well I don't no what friends signed up, but it's 3 of the 6 crypto friends I shared post with for sure
[2016-06-16 13:23:27] NukeLaloosh : Position Marking Swap contracts will be marked at the mark price. The mark price determines unrealised PNL and the liquidation price. Funding Basis = Funding Rate * (Hours Until Funding Timestamp / Funding Period) Mark Price = Spot Price * (1 + Funding Basis)
[2016-06-16 13:24:03] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: All swaps are marked to the Funding Basis
[2016-06-16 13:24:59] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I will ask in general what people have made when next on fb, but doesn't exactly inspire confindence as I know they most of traded something or why sign up, and I got nothing
[2016-06-16 13:25:14] Mr Blue : They must of*
[2016-06-16 13:26:08] BitMEX_Wally : You get at least 10% of any commissions your referrals have paid
[2016-06-16 13:27:09] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: ye and some of my friends are more whale than me, but can't prove what they've traded, still 0 seems off
[2016-06-16 13:27:47] BitMEX_Wally : Does it say "You have referred 0 users"?
[2016-06-16 13:28:13] BitMEX_Wally : if so please email support a list of their email addresses and I will tell you if they signed up and what affiliate link they used
[2016-06-16 13:28:16] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: no says I have 3 had them about 4 or 5 days
[2016-06-16 13:29:04] Mr Blue : Maybe longer, I have the memory of a stoner lol
[2016-06-16 13:30:24] BitMEX_Wally : They may have signed up but not deposited, or maybe only traded with getting taker fees
[2016-06-16 13:30:42] BitMEX_Wally : email support@bitmex.com and we will investigate
[2016-06-16 13:30:54] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I'm not going to start begging my friends about who signed up and what they've traded, just 0 seems low
[2016-06-16 13:34:50] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: never mind just forget it, if you like check my 3 refs, but should of already known if they'd been spending.. maybe they didn't spend anything but surely after 5 days one of them should of done lol, I don't care about the fee's just letting you know it doesn't make me want to invite more.
[2016-06-16 13:36:55] rapidtrades : I singed up under a ref and never got the rebate as well
[2016-06-16 13:37:40] rapidtrades : i meant the fee discount or whatever...i've been paying 0.075% since day 1
[2016-06-16 13:38:21] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: haha was it your own ref? I've been thinking about that one if I get around to making a second account
[2016-06-16 13:39:27] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: haha you've been here years must be few BTC your owned if true
[2016-06-16 13:43:14] Mr Blue : Anyways, rant over but I'm not happy with the ref system for sure
[2016-06-16 13:44:01] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: if you can't talk about my refs in chat and check it out for me though, just send me an email.
[2016-06-16 13:51:22] Mr Blue : I assume the exchange would rather me have 50 refs than 3 if not their loss, but I'm not a mug lol
[2016-06-16 13:52:23] wurstgelee : Mr Blue: i would assume that your refs dont trade rather than assuming that the ref system is broken
[2016-06-16 13:52:48] wurstgelee : or are u 100% sure they do?
[2016-06-16 13:53:17] elmorte : rapidtrades: dudeee...lol...when I asked since when have the fees been -0.225/0.675, you asnwered "since forever"
[2016-06-16 13:53:27] Mr Blue : No I don't no they traded here, but I know they have Bitcoin and know they signed up
[2016-06-16 13:55:51] elmorte : HOLY F*CK! That deep order warning just saved my ass...almost long'ed till $69k...
[2016-06-16 13:56:06] Mr Blue : wurstgelee: your possibly correct, but added more competition to the exchange if I'm not getting reward doesn't make sense, I'll still help out now and then when I make a profit.. but I won't be trying to get 50 refs like other exchanges if looked like I'm getting taken up the bum
[2016-06-16 13:56:17] elmorte : Well...not that it would actually go that deep
[2016-06-16 13:56:49] Mr Blue : If it looks*
[2016-06-16 13:57:31] Mr Blue : Guys who here is Jay Orbitcoin friend on Facebook??
[2016-06-16 13:58:19] zanza : i think bitmex should just give Mr Blue 2 BTC for his 3 friends ref
[2016-06-16 13:59:05] Mr Blue : zanza: it's not about the money, it's principle , it prob only 20,000 Satoshi
[2016-06-16 13:59:05] BTCDJS : zanza: only 2? I got 5
[2016-06-16 13:59:39] Mr Blue : Lol
[2016-06-16 14:01:32] elmorte : zanza: socialist!
[2016-06-16 14:39:07] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: the next funding rate is .8204% or .8326%?
[2016-06-16 14:47:16] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-06-16 14:47:24] BitMEX_Wally : `Funding Rate 0.8204%`
[2016-06-16 14:48:58] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate increase is capped at 0.375% so it could not be 0.8326%
[2016-06-16 14:49:18] NukeLaloosh : ah, that was my question. thanks
[2016-06-16 14:52:57] NukeLaloosh : Mark Price = Spot Price * (1 + Funding Basis)––using 742.19 for spot and 5 hrs to go, I get 746.15 for mark price
[2016-06-16 14:53:14] NukeLaloosh : mark is showing 742.45
[2016-06-16 14:58:06] BitMEX_Wally : `738.77*1+0.008204*5/8 = 742.56`
[2016-06-16 14:59:02] NukeLaloosh : i pulled spot from https://www.kaiko.com/
[2016-06-16 14:59:25] BitMEX_Wally : http://kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-16 15:00:56] BitMEX_Wally : We publish `XBT Spot` in the ticker bar and under the Contract Details widget
[2016-06-16 15:01:12] BitMEX_Wally : Currently showing ` 738.42 / 742.19 `
[2016-06-16 15:01:45] rapidtrades : another sharp reversal in usd/cnh back over 6.60
[2016-06-16 15:02:17] Blargwaffle : US finally caught up.
[2016-06-16 15:02:18] NukeLaloosh : yeah, that's about $4 difference. thanks
[2016-06-16 15:02:36] rapidtrades : its mayhem out there folks
[2016-06-16 15:02:46] rapidtrades : bears are out hunting and they take no prisoners :)
[2016-06-16 15:03:07] luckynuke : next run to 5000cny
[2016-06-16 15:04:04] luckynuke : bulls are heavy armed
[2016-06-16 15:04:04] rapidtrades : stocks down, oil down, yen dollar up
[2016-06-16 15:04:11] rapidtrades : smells like 2008
[2016-06-16 15:04:49] luckynuke : trump says the next crash is comming this year
[2016-06-16 15:05:08] rapidtrades : yeah he's gonna cause it
[2016-06-16 15:05:24] Blargwaffle : Hah, Trump can't even say coming right.
[2016-06-16 15:05:33] luckynuke : can´t stump the trump
[2016-06-16 15:05:52] rapidtrades : Trump: My crash will be YUUUUUGE!
[2016-06-16 15:06:00] luckynuke : lol
[2016-06-16 15:06:04] luckynuke : rapid where are you from
[2016-06-16 15:06:09] BTCDJS : luckynuke: trumps a douchebag
[2016-06-16 15:06:21] rapidtrades : Judea, u?
[2016-06-16 15:06:26] luckynuke : germany
[2016-06-16 15:06:34] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-06-16 15:07:32] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you're not from judea
[2016-06-16 15:07:54] luckynuke : of course he isn´t
[2016-06-16 15:08:17] BTCDJS : he is from the north east of england
[2016-06-16 15:08:28] luckynuke : hah gaaay
[2016-06-16 15:09:04] BTCDJS : luckynuke: your name is gay
[2016-06-16 15:09:21] luckynuke : says the one with the condom in his ass
[2016-06-16 15:09:50] BTCDJS : luckynuke: im not gay. My boyfriend is
[2016-06-16 15:10:05] luckynuke : i knew it
[2016-06-16 15:10:15] luckynuke : rapidtrades is your boyfriend right ?
[2016-06-16 15:10:33] BTCDJS : luckynuke: no he is my homo
[2016-06-16 15:10:38] BTCDJS : I mean homie
[2016-06-16 15:10:43] luckynuke : haha
[2016-06-16 15:10:46] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-06-16 15:21:32] luckynuke : china at 750$
[2016-06-16 15:21:38] BTCDJS : luckynuke: you ever stick a finger up your sheriffs badge while you're spanking the monkey?
[2016-06-16 15:21:56] BTCDJS : you can tell me
[2016-06-16 15:22:04] BTCDJS : Ill keep it secret
[2016-06-16 15:22:18] migz : triple green on huobi chart 12hr
[2016-06-16 15:22:18] luckynuke : what is a sheriffs badge ?
[2016-06-16 15:22:29] migz : huobi* lels
[2016-06-16 15:22:42] luckynuke : huobi
[2016-06-16 15:23:24] BTCDJS : luckynuke: take your pants off and point your bayside to mirror and widen you but cheeks. Tell me that doesn't look like a sheriffs badge
[2016-06-16 15:23:32] sizzurp : shoulda been on that drop dammit
[2016-06-16 15:23:38] BTCDJS : luckynuke: ill wait
[2016-06-16 15:23:59] luckynuke : BTCDJS: don´t know what a sheriffsbadge is
[2016-06-16 15:24:09] luckynuke : and i think i dont want to know that
[2016-06-16 15:25:14] BTCDJS : luckynuke: i think you already know. Its where your farts come out from
[2016-06-16 15:25:24] luckynuke : ah ok
[2016-06-16 15:25:36] luckynuke : the vanillafarts hm
[2016-06-16 15:28:09] sizzurp : crossing fingers for more drops
[2016-06-16 15:28:40] luckynuke : pump to 5000cny then dump
[2016-06-16 15:30:11] rapidtrades : did smone say pump
[2016-06-16 15:30:19] luckynuke : PUMP IT
[2016-06-16 15:30:37] luckynuke : nobody said pump
[2016-06-16 15:31:26] j8 : now three people said pump
[2016-06-16 15:31:28] j8 : i mean four
[2016-06-16 15:31:56] BTCDJS : no-one here said pump
[2016-06-16 15:32:39] rapidtrades : 5
[2016-06-16 15:32:43] luckynuke : who said pump ?
[2016-06-16 15:32:58] BTCDJS : you
[2016-06-16 15:33:03] luckynuke : noo
[2016-06-16 15:33:21] BTCDJS : 16:28 - luckynuke: pump to 5000cny then
[2016-06-16 15:33:31] BTCDJS : must be someone else then
[2016-06-16 15:33:50] Mr Blue : Nice drop just the p, I've been making good money shorting today, though I don't normally recommend it lol
[2016-06-16 15:34:24] rapidtrades : wtf..where's my premium
[2016-06-16 15:34:34] BTCDJS : I'm going to fomo short on the actual dump
[2016-06-16 15:34:56] BTCDJS : pooof gone
[2016-06-16 15:35:39] luckynuke : BTCDJS: that wasnt me
[2016-06-16 15:35:50] luckynuke : dumper get rek
[2016-06-16 15:36:02] rapidtrades : not worth it to take profit with 0.8% fee coming
[2016-06-16 15:36:38] BTCDJS : damn the rent is too high
[2016-06-16 15:37:01] BTCDJS : dont longs pay the fee?
[2016-06-16 15:37:13] rapidtrades : next one will be 0.8 again
[2016-06-16 15:37:26] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yea im s
[2016-06-16 15:37:26] zanza : someone ate that XBTU16 ?
[2016-06-16 15:37:35] CaptainDean : long pay, short get the fees (part of it)
[2016-06-16 15:37:43] BTCDJS : boom
[2016-06-16 15:37:48] rapidtrades : short get all of it
[2016-06-16 15:37:49] j8 : zanza: only part, it's still there at 957.73
[2016-06-16 15:38:01] CaptainDean : ok thanks you rapidtrades
[2016-06-16 15:38:02] zanza : oh, its hidden
[2016-06-16 15:38:07] BTCDJS : well when the right time comes. Im shorting
[2016-06-16 15:39:03] rapidtrades : at current prices, 0.8% is $6 discount
[2016-06-16 15:39:10] rapidtrades : better start dumping longers
[2016-06-16 15:40:12] CaptainDean : it's only in 4 hours ?
[2016-06-16 15:40:16] j8 : no, it's $6 premium in the mark price
[2016-06-16 15:40:49] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: yes
[2016-06-16 15:41:23] j8 : if the rate is staying the same it should trade at the spot price at funding time
[2016-06-16 15:41:38] rapidtrades : j8 plz
[2016-06-16 15:41:46] rapidtrades : keep ur crazy math to urself
[2016-06-16 15:42:01] j8 : discount is when the rate is decreasing
[2016-06-16 15:42:09] rapidtrades : omfg
[2016-06-16 15:42:22] rapidtrades : guys give me a gun
[2016-06-16 15:42:33] rapidtrades : have to end my misery
[2016-06-16 15:42:43] j8 : i could go on...
[2016-06-16 15:43:01] rapidtrades : no need
[2016-06-16 15:44:12] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: if it helps I'm now going long till 750
[2016-06-16 15:45:07] gustavo7 : ATH was >800 <1200 in a matter of three days, can it happen again?
[2016-06-16 15:45:15] rapidtrades : doesn't matter to me, i'll either get it as price gain or fee
[2016-06-16 15:45:23] rapidtrades : gustavo7: yes
[2016-06-16 15:45:31] Mr Blue : Only one exchange holding spot back here and that's okc so good time to by maybe
[2016-06-16 15:45:34] rapidtrades : not likely but it can sure
[2016-06-16 15:47:38] gustavo7 : long term screams short but there should be the one long candle to mark the top
[2016-06-16 15:48:46] BTCDJS : gustavo7: some might say we past the top at 715 Finex
[2016-06-16 15:49:26] QuantFocus : The fundamentals for this rally are incredibly different from 2013
[2016-06-16 15:49:39] gustavo7 : BTCDJS: you mean the top we just topped? nah way to clear higher high
[2016-06-16 15:50:04] gustavo7 : how many more BTC are in existence since then
[2016-06-16 15:50:49] BTCDJS : we can just raise the celling the way they do with debt
[2016-06-16 15:51:01] QuantFocus : Quite a few. But...we're about to get the inflation reduction, plus significantly higher demand
[2016-06-16 15:51:39] QuantFocus : and a global macro environment, that for some crazy reason, is pushing assets into BTC as 'safe haven'
[2016-06-16 15:52:56] BTCDJS : QuantFocus: thats sounds weird to me. To think people are actually putting their money into this volatile thing as a safe haven
[2016-06-16 15:52:58] QuantFocus : A few extra billion would create a massive rally. Meanwhile, projections for trillions in capital looking for an outlet are out there
[2016-06-16 15:53:44] QuantFocus : BTCDJS: it's counterintuitive, i agree
[2016-06-16 15:54:05] gustavo7 : safe haven lol, i did that when the euro tanked but then i needed money at the worst time, even gold would've been better
[2016-06-16 15:54:13] BTCDJS : its crazy. but it just might work
[2016-06-16 15:54:16] QuantFocus : BTCDJS: however, corruption and uncertainty in currency controls (i.e. yuan), just might make btc more secure
[2016-06-16 15:54:48] BTCDJS : gustavo7: but you are one person
[2016-06-16 15:55:05] Mr Blue : gustavo7: how come? Not hard to cash out to your bank for free via services like circle.com
[2016-06-16 15:55:44] Mr Blue : Or get a Bitcoin bank card... hold money in Bitcoin and it only converts as you withdraw from the bank machine
[2016-06-16 15:55:48] gustavo7 : Mr Blue: i was able to cash out, just not at a good price ;)
[2016-06-16 15:56:06] Mr Blue : gustavo7: ahh my mistake mate sorry
[2016-06-16 15:56:18] QuantFocus : We still have grexit and brexit concerns as well
[2016-06-16 15:56:32] QuantFocus : Potentially huge destablizers in fiat
[2016-06-16 15:56:33] BTCDJS : nah