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[2015-08-11 19:30:36] ssa3512 : I am loving the GUI
[2015-08-11 19:30:51] BitMEX_Sam : :) Liquidity is a constant battle but it gets better with time
[2015-08-11 19:30:54] BitMEX_Sam : Welcome
[2015-08-11 19:30:59] ssa3512 : thanks :)
[2015-08-11 19:31:07] ssa3512 : been playing on ETH
[2015-08-11 19:31:10] ssa3512 : already up 25%
[2015-08-11 19:31:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it's a good day for that
[2015-08-11 19:31:54] ssa3512 : no kidding. just playing the spread has been quite lucrative
[2015-08-11 19:34:22] ssa3512 : BitMEX_Sam: saw you filed for bitlicense
[2015-08-11 19:34:41] ssa3512 : Does that mean straight up USD/BTC trading in the future?
[2015-08-11 19:38:19] BitMEX_Sam : ssa3512: You may have misread that, we have not filed.
[2015-08-11 19:38:30] ssa3512 : oh
[2015-08-11 19:38:59] BitMEX_Sam : We don't plan to do fiat in the near future, but it is not ruled out for the end of the year
[2015-08-11 19:39:06] ssa3512 : I thought I saw a stack of paperwork on twitter
[2015-08-11 19:39:11] BitMEX_Sam : Not ours
[2015-08-11 19:42:17] ssa3512 : It's kinda bizarre. I'm staying with some family in NY this week and some of the sites I normally go to are blocking based on GeoIP
[2015-08-11 19:42:43] ssa3512 : woah your trollbox is rearranging words
[2015-08-11 19:44:03] BitMEX_Sam : Rearranging words?
[2015-08-11 19:44:40] BitMEX_Sam : There is an HTML sanitizer that runs on any input, it may have deleted any tags you might have put in
[2015-08-11 19:47:26] ssa3512 : Not sure, my message that had GeoIP in it showed in a different order than I submitted temporarily
[2015-08-11 19:47:44] ssa3512 : also arbitrary capitalization of thing
[2015-08-11 19:50:09] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry, capitalization of what?
[2015-08-11 19:50:15] BitMEX_Sam : Trying to figure out what you saw :)
[2015-08-11 19:52:04] ssa3512 : it seems like what I type goes into the chat box differently than what I type, then is processed through something and ends up correct
[2015-08-11 19:53:46] BitMEX_Sam : Not sure how that would be possible - could be a display issue on your end, I've seen Chrome do some wacky things with hardware acceleration in the last few releases
[2015-08-11 19:54:05] BitMEX_Sam : But chat messages hit the server first before they are returned to you, you don't see them half-processed
[2015-08-11 19:56:01] ssa3512 : I am in chrome with hw acceleration
[2015-08-11 19:56:09] ssa3512 : I'll turn it off and see what happens
[2015-08-11 19:59:41] ssa3512 : man people are pushing ether way up
[2015-08-11 20:18:18] 598X0T45 : which area do I go to, to enable 2FA
[2015-08-11 20:18:58] 598X0T45 : nvm got it
[2015-08-11 21:25:05] ssa3512 : BitMEX_Sam: limit orders soon I hope?
[2015-08-11 21:25:14] ssa3512 : or rather stop limit
[2015-08-11 21:46:28] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: i'm having the issue with the isolate margin button again. it's displaying as checked on the wrong row
[2015-08-11 21:46:58] j8 : fixes after a refresh but it's happened twice today
[2015-08-12 00:39:11] goat : 598X0T45: nice to see you here
[2015-08-12 00:39:17] goat : glad to see you finally made the switch
[2015-08-12 00:43:12] ksinvest : still 200 at 271.28 on XBU24H, never seen a market maker being so short-term bullish here
[2015-08-12 00:47:23] ksinvest : now it updated to 270.56, seems to be some VWAP based bug
[2015-08-12 01:08:58] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Thanks for the note, pushing an update now that prevents switching instruments when you hit isolate margin, pretty sure that was causing it combined with an unstable sort
[2015-08-12 01:12:48] billyboy402 : guys , i wa margin call eth at 4.155 , that cant be right ?
[2015-08-12 01:13:25] billyboy402 : i thought the market price wouldnt iof gone up so far
[2015-08-12 01:14:17] goat : billyboy402: do you mean LTC?
[2015-08-12 01:14:25] goat : its trading around that price
[2015-08-12 01:14:49] billyboy402 : nvm , i read it wrong
[2015-08-12 01:15:26] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, must have been XLT.
[2015-08-12 01:23:48] ssa3512 : I don't know what do do with the eth market right now
[2015-08-12 01:24:16] GAmma : when you find yourself saying 'I don't know what to do ...'
[2015-08-12 01:24:25] ssa3512 : short
[2015-08-12 01:24:26] GAmma : it means you should sit on your hands
[2015-08-12 01:24:29] ssa3512 : lol
[2015-08-12 01:24:55] ssa3512 : well, I have a position open right now. pretty much just sitting on it right now
[2015-08-12 01:25:02] GAmma : or turn off your PC get some sun
[2015-08-12 01:25:08] ssa3512 : no volume on kraken right now
[2015-08-12 01:26:07] ssa3512 : pretty much just popping between 0.00375 and 0.00395 for the last few hours
[2015-08-12 01:26:34] GAmma : I read that a lot of original investors are unable to access their coins in order to sell
[2015-08-12 01:26:45] ssa3512 : oh really?
[2015-08-12 01:26:50] GAmma : seems continued bearish ...
[2015-08-12 01:27:11] BitMEX_Sam : I heard that too. Market is getting strange
[2015-08-12 01:27:16] j8 : wow poloniex did over 3000 btc volume in eth today
[2015-08-12 01:27:23] ssa3512 : yeah I'm pretty bearish on eth
[2015-08-12 01:27:42] BitMEX_Sam : That's pretty incredible, their usual full-exchange volume is about 400-500 coins/day
[2015-08-12 01:27:57] ssa3512 : oh Sam
[2015-08-12 01:27:58] ssa3512 : two thing
[2015-08-12 01:28:05] ssa3512 : turning off HW accel fixed the chat thing
[2015-08-12 01:28:18] ssa3512 : and it was bittrex that I saw the bitlicense application for
[2015-08-12 01:28:35] BitMEX_Sam : That's good - just curious, are you on a mac?
[2015-08-12 01:28:43] ssa3512 : nope
[2015-08-12 01:28:44] ssa3512 : win 10
[2015-08-12 01:28:45] ssa3512 : er
[2015-08-12 01:28:46] ssa3512 : 8
[2015-08-12 01:28:48] BitMEX_Sam : Seems HW acceleration in Chrome has gotten worse in the last few releases
[2015-08-12 01:28:52] BitMEX_Sam : Ah okay. So maybe it's happening there too
[2015-08-12 01:29:03] ssa3512 : yes when I upgraded my desktop to win 10 the other day I had to kill it
[2015-08-12 01:29:09] BitMEX_Sam : I've been seeing white tabs, weird floating elements, all kinds of visual bugs in the last few weeks
[2015-08-12 01:29:10] ssa3512 : it was doing all sorts of weird shit
[2015-08-12 01:29:39] BitMEX_Sam : One of these days I'll finally switch to Firefox. Chrome is always a moving target
[2015-08-12 01:29:55] ssa3512 : It's funny, firefox seems to be making a comeback
[2015-08-12 01:29:58] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry to hear about Win10 - was hoping it'd be more like 7 than 8
[2015-08-12 01:30:08] ssa3512 : oh no 10 is great
[2015-08-12 01:30:15] ssa3512 : but the hw acceleration on chrome went nuts with it
[2015-08-12 01:30:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah FF is solid now. They've really upped their devtools game which is what I care about
[2015-08-12 01:30:20] BitMEX_Sam : Ah
[2015-08-12 01:30:40] BitMEX_Sam : It's terrible on battery too so I ought to just get off of it.
[2015-08-12 01:31:27] ssa3512 : what is terrible on battery? Chrome?
[2015-08-12 01:31:31] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah.
[2015-08-12 01:31:35] ssa3512 : ah
[2015-08-12 01:31:58] ssa3512 : are you in IRC?
[2015-08-12 01:32:10] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I always keep it open.
[2015-08-12 01:32:13] BitMEX_Sam : `STRML`
[2015-08-12 01:48:17] ksinvest : finally, 200 bot at spot price 269.12
[2015-08-12 01:50:44] ksinvest : 200 bot wanted to lose money but nobody traded with him, that's very sad
[2015-08-12 02:31:44] SnackyCoins : OOH LITECOIN, YEAA
[2015-08-12 03:50:02] krtek.net : GRD pattern on ethereum
[2015-08-12 03:50:08] krtek.net : (giant red dildo)
[2015-08-12 03:50:40] krtek.net : at least on poloniex :)
[2015-08-12 03:54:17] prospecta : hahaha what is that crazy eth fuck doing here
[2015-08-12 03:54:21] Apocalyptic : I believe there is a typo in https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT#advanced-considerations in the first line of the "Going short Bitcoin", it should read "will sell XBT contracts" instead of "will buy XBT contracts"
[2015-08-12 03:54:52] prospecta : 3k eth at 0.0396 you must be insane
[2015-08-12 03:55:01] prospecta : 0.00396
[2015-08-12 03:55:12] prospecta : its near 0.003 at polo hahaha
[2015-08-12 03:55:17] TrevinHofmann : pls don't sell
[2015-08-12 03:55:22] TrevinHofmann : let my deposit confirm D:
[2015-08-12 03:55:33] prospecta : i dumped all i could into it
[2015-08-12 03:55:38] prospecta : insane...just insane
[2015-08-12 03:55:51] TrevinHofmann : nvm, it's gone :(
[2015-08-12 03:56:04] prospecta : thats some serious mistake haha
[2015-08-12 03:56:16] TrevinHofmann : Was it pulled or sold through?
[2015-08-12 03:56:20] TrevinHofmann : I wasn't paying much attention
[2015-08-12 03:56:24] j8 : pulled
[2015-08-12 03:56:38] j8 : i got a few in
[2015-08-12 03:57:09] TrevinHofmann : Do you know if it was up for a while? I literally just opened up the window and was gone in 20 seconds.
[2015-08-12 03:57:33] j8 : like 2 or 3 minutes
[2015-08-12 03:57:48] j8 : i was just trying to free up some margin and it was gone
[2015-08-12 03:57:56] GAmma : lol
[2015-08-12 03:57:59] j8 : maybe 1 minute
[2015-08-12 03:58:02] GAmma : sorry dude
[2015-08-12 03:58:21] TrevinHofmann : Maybe instead of setting up bots to flip small margins, I should set one up to only take advantage of opportunities like that.
[2015-08-12 03:58:24] prospecta : maybe they were trying to start some margin calls not realising it dont work that way here
[2015-08-12 03:58:41] TrevinHofmann : Sit on the sidelines until one of the books are clearly way off and take full advantage.
[2015-08-12 03:59:12] TrevinHofmann : I remember when it did work that way here... Mark price = last trade price
[2015-08-12 03:59:16] j8 : maybe leave some distant orders to catch fat fingers too.
[2015-08-12 03:59:31] prospecta : well that was some easy profit
[2015-08-12 03:59:35] prospecta : closed the short already
[2015-08-12 04:00:06] j8 : i've been short all day and its been stressful as hell.
[2015-08-12 04:00:06] TrevinHofmann : j8: good point
[2015-08-12 04:00:49] j8 : just closing and reopening higher all day.
[2015-08-12 04:02:21] j8 : TrevinHofmann: did you see litecoin hit 13 dollars something the other day on `LTC7D`
[2015-08-12 04:02:47] TrevinHofmann : I didn't
[2015-08-12 04:03:22] TrevinHofmann : I made a killing with Namecoin when LTC had its strong rally.
[2015-08-12 04:03:24] BitMEX_Wally : The chart looks silly now with that high wick
[2015-08-12 04:03:36] TrevinHofmann : But lost most of it here via BTC and ETH :( Oh well
[2015-08-12 04:03:45] BitMEX_Wally : Apocalyptic: Thanks for pointing out the top, will fix
[2015-08-12 04:04:35] TrevinHofmann : Hmm. That XLT wick is barely even visible. 1px wide reddish gray on gray.
[2015-08-12 04:04:41] GAmma : the LTC trades to ~$13 ... were those reversed or were they good?
[2015-08-12 04:05:24] BitMEX_Wally : GAmma: All trades stand
[2015-08-12 04:06:24] j8 : that one-click ordering is a blessing and a curse
[2015-08-12 04:07:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah we looked into it, in this case it was a bot through the API
[2015-08-12 04:07:49] GAmma : wow, I luv bots ... lol
[2015-08-12 04:10:49] TrevinHofmann : Is it just me or has ETH been quite volatile.
[2015-08-12 04:11:06] GAmma : last 10 minutes yes
[2015-08-12 04:11:09] TrevinHofmann : Seems like it whips up or down 25% in an hour with low volume
[2015-08-12 04:11:46] prospecta : its ridiculous there are no reasonable asks of any quantity under 0.004
[2015-08-12 04:11:52] prospecta : wheres the market makers?
[2015-08-12 04:11:54] cengel : takes one line of code in bot to prevent mistakes like that
[2015-08-12 04:11:58] j8 : the tradeable supply is still really restricted compared to the market cap i think
[2015-08-12 04:18:30] TrevinHofmann : 10% bid/ask spread for ETH on kraken
[2015-08-12 04:22:40] GAmma : XBT7D only one offer
[2015-08-12 04:22:49] GAmma : perfect contract, no volume ...
[2015-08-12 04:22:58] ksinvest : <code>Gross Value: Infinity XBT</code> https://twitter.com/RobotFinance/status/631306909811896320
[2015-08-12 04:27:04] BitMEX_Wally : Hahaha nice try
[2015-08-12 04:27:16] BitMEX_Wally : I saw some withdrawal requests for a negative amount of XBT last night
[2015-08-12 04:29:07] GAmma : recently on some btc gambling sites
[2015-08-12 04:29:26] GAmma : people have been able to 'game' the site by placing negative bets
[2015-08-12 04:29:27] GAmma : lol
[2015-08-12 04:30:15] GAmma : run up big wins and then try to withdraw ...
[2015-08-12 04:30:37] cengel : how can that be possible unless the guy is running a whitelabel and is totally clueless
[2015-08-12 04:31:02] GAmma : flaws were found in the programming I guess
[2015-08-12 04:31:16] ksinvest : was an accident, my bot set his maximum bid price to 0 because he lost a connection i guess.
[2015-08-12 04:31:28] GAmma : lots of those sites run dozens of dumb gambling games, not all written perfectly
[2015-08-12 04:32:02] cengel : gamma, but youd think if they actually wrote it they would do those validity checks
[2015-08-12 04:32:18] cengel : im thinking someone just took a whitelabel and didn't set the conf properly
[2015-08-12 04:32:19] GAmma : you'd think , wouldn't you?
[2015-08-12 04:32:20] GAmma : lol
[2015-08-12 04:32:30] cengel : i mean, negative bets not being rejected. that's basic shit
[2015-08-12 04:32:50] GAmma : yeah, that website closed down.
[2015-08-12 04:33:00] GAmma : cryptopoker.eu I think ...
[2015-08-12 04:33:41] cengel : there was also that dice site that let people make bets pre-roll which would not deduct if lost. and some guy gamed it and cried on reddit because btc-e froze his funds as it was reported
[2015-08-12 04:34:17] GAmma : yeah, that is the hard part ... getting paid
[2015-08-12 04:34:39] cengel : i wouldnt run a site like that without manual withdrawal
[2015-08-12 04:34:53] cengel : one cheeky bastard can ruin months of house edge
[2015-08-12 04:34:56] GAmma : well, they do have manual withdrawal.
[2015-08-12 04:35:56] GAmma : what you find is that the hacker/troll runs up his big wins, and then tries to withdraw, simultaneously smearing the site online trying to their reputation for ransom
[2015-08-12 04:36:35] GAmma : cryptopoker.eu had manual withdrawal, and refused to pay. they just closed their site and later relaunched under another name
[2015-08-12 04:37:08] GAmma : even though you could argue that cryptopoker's fault for garbage code
[2015-08-12 04:38:59] GAmma : best option is to find the flaw, and then quietly bring it to the site owner, who generally will pay a bounty for the courtesy
[2015-08-12 04:40:08] cengel : http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-cso-goes-against-bug-bounties-and-security-researchers-2015-8
[2015-08-12 04:40:18] GAmma : so when Wally sees negative withdrawal requests, makes me think someone is trying their luck
[2015-08-12 04:40:18] cengel : not all siteowners are cool and will pay a bounty. so its good to have leverage over them if they refuse
[2015-08-12 04:40:44] cengel : not to extort but to incentivize
[2015-08-12 04:41:17] GAmma : anyway, its not my game. I just play some poker and follow some of the developments around new sites. (I'm not a programmer.)
[2015-08-12 04:42:39] cengel : oracle made a fool of themselves with that blogpost
[2015-08-12 04:43:16] ksinvest : cengel: while you can openly sell zero days to the highest bidder, you are in a legally problematic situation when reporting bugs to the owner.
[2015-08-12 04:46:58] ksinvest : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassenaar_Arrangement
[2015-08-12 04:48:30] GAmma : interesting, ty
[2015-08-12 04:52:46] BitMEX_Wally : We run a bug bounty programme on Crowdcurity https://cobalt.io/bitmex
[2015-08-12 05:04:07] ksinvest : BitMEX_Wally: nice :) guess researchers prefer bitcoin vs. paypal payments
[2015-08-12 05:12:00] cengel : @ksinvest when has anyone been prosecuted for selling a 0day that was reported/ignored by site owner?
[2015-08-12 05:12:36] cengel : in either case, one need not be specific. asking a general/hypoethetical of site owner enough to send the message
[2015-08-12 05:13:11] cengel : "Oh you don't offer bug bounties? Okay, good luck then." no specifics or reporting needed
[2015-08-12 05:15:32] cengel : i only have a couple minor CVEs registered but there are guys who make a living doing that stuff, they aren't dumb
[2015-08-12 05:21:27] ksinvest : cengel: true, but smart guys don't necessarily employ great lawyers. big zero day sellers do and they have other means of legal protection (gov agencies as clients).
[2015-08-12 05:23:08] ksinvest : big players are selling non-exclusive exploit to multiple gov agencies. this is much more profitable than report exclusively to the owner.
[2015-08-12 05:23:40] ksinvest : thanks to our "security" services...
[2015-08-12 05:28:39] cengel : okay but whats the big example then of a prosecution?
[2015-08-12 05:36:00] cengel : i could see how there may be some kind of extortion but havent heard of any case really
[2015-08-12 05:38:06] ksinvest : cengel: the 2013 amendment to the Wassenar agreement is not fully implemented/ratified in a lot of countries yet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/05/we-must-fight-proposed-us-wassenaar-implementation probaly there have not been any enforcements yet, but it definitely has already some "preventive" functions.
[2015-08-12 05:46:04] ksinvest : a lot of site owners will think of extortion, but for white hats that shouldn't be a legal problem, more laws and TOS that directly prevent you from searching/testing vulnerabilities
[2015-08-12 05:47:13] ksinvest : but it was never you who tested it, you always deal just with the information anyway...
[2015-08-12 05:49:31] cengel : hm, yea, but Oracle is a minority, most tech cos understand
[2015-08-12 05:56:37] ksinvest : right, they should just pay more for exclusive deals than multiple govs for non-exclusive ones
[2015-08-12 06:11:02] ksinvest : (and maybe we should vote for people who are not spending our tax money to keep web services insecure for all of us)
[2015-08-12 06:22:01] ksinvest : the Oracle guy is a) really just an idiot b) a privileged partner of a gov agency with the biggest budget for zero days trading
[2015-08-12 06:23:10] ksinvest : surprise http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/30/us-oracle-nsa-idUSBREA0T05U20140130
[2015-08-12 06:23:53] ksinvest : i wouldn't say he is an idiot
[2015-08-12 06:50:11] cengel : it's a woman who wrote the blogpost in question actually.
[2015-08-12 06:50:32] cengel : not to open a can of worms or anything
[2015-08-12 06:56:01] cengel : "Blogs.Oracle.Com - Mary Ann Davidson Blog"
[2015-08-12 07:03:55] ksinvest : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Davidson
[2015-08-12 07:04:58] ksinvest : "a product manager in Oracle's financial software business unit" as Chief Security Officer?
[2015-08-12 07:05:29] ksinvest : "attended the Severn School, a preparatory high school for the Naval Academy, graduating in 1976"
[2015-08-12 07:08:30] ksinvest : would still say more useful than just a useful idiot...
[2015-08-12 07:10:28] cengel : does she even code?
[2015-08-12 07:16:43] BitMEX_Wally : A lot of system administrators don't code
[2015-08-12 07:17:07] BitMEX_Wally : The problem here seems to be that Oracle sees security as a product rather than a process
[2015-08-12 07:17:30] BitMEX_Wally : "Sign this license agreement" we will give you a secure product
[2015-08-12 07:21:05] krach : is there a sandbox for people to test the products at?
[2015-08-12 07:21:52] BitMEX_Wally : krach: If you're talking about BitMEX, yes we have a testnet environment: http://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2015-08-12 07:22:45] krach : yes, thanks I forgot the url
[2015-08-12 07:23:38] BitMEX_Wally : You'll need to deposit some Testnet Bitcoin (which are worthless)
[2015-08-12 07:23:48] BitMEX_Wally : You can get some from a faucet: http://tpfaucet.appspot.com
[2015-08-12 07:26:21] krach : thx
[2015-08-12 08:34:57] j8 : very strange wick on kraken just now.
[2015-08-12 08:38:24] j8 : from .0037 to .0042 with nothing in between, looks like api weirdness
[2015-08-12 09:07:54] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Yeah, these are the trades we got from their API `0.0037 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0.0042 0.00367`
[2015-08-12 09:09:07] j8 : and only about 170 eth volume up there
[2015-08-12 09:38:17] gustavo7 : why does it pump anyway?
[2015-08-12 09:38:57] j8 : because it's new
[2015-08-12 10:18:04] pschepenaar : How do you close a poisition lol.
[2015-08-12 10:19:51] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are long go short
[2015-08-12 10:19:58] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are short go long
[2015-08-12 10:20:02] pschepenaar : but how to market sell?
[2015-08-12 10:20:14] pschepenaar : I'd like a panic sell button like on okcoin
[2015-08-12 10:22:18] BitMEX_Arthur : We don't allow market orders for the time being , only limit orders. If you want to panic sell or buy set a low or high limit to eat through the order book
[2015-08-12 10:23:35] pschepenaar : ack
[2015-08-12 10:39:40] pschepenaar : thanks
[2015-08-12 10:45:15] slavo : hi i'm new; where can i chose the amount of contract ? i can only buy/Sell 50 eth contracts?
[2015-08-12 10:46:21] BitMEX_Wally : slavo: Welcome to BitMEX
[2015-08-12 10:46:42] BitMEX_Wally : You can type the number of contracts you would like to buy/sell into the `Quantity` box
[2015-08-12 10:48:17] slavo : oh ok
[2015-08-12 10:48:20] slavo : brain not working sorry
[2015-08-12 10:48:51] slavo : thanks
[2015-08-12 10:49:50] BitMEX_Wally : With the `ETH7D` future each contract is worth 1 `ETH`
[2015-08-12 11:00:37] slavo : okok book is empty tho
[2015-08-12 11:00:47] slavo : not much success on that instrument it seems :)
[2015-08-12 11:01:07] slavo : i like how you manage your site btw; i just hate the look and feel
[2015-08-12 13:37:44] BitMEX_Sam : Hey @slavo, I do the UI here at BitMEX - I'm interested, what do you find uncomfortable about the site?
[2015-08-12 14:26:41] slavo : hi
[2015-08-12 14:27:06] slavo : too much distracting stuff / words and a bit gloomy
[2015-08-12 14:32:25] BitMEX_Sam : Are you on the dark theme or advanced layout? See the Options dropdown on the top right
[2015-08-12 14:39:08] stf28 : BitMEX_Sam: hi would be nice to allow closing the panels we don't need like announcements
[2015-08-12 14:39:31] BitMEX_Sam : stf28: I agree with that, an update will be coming hopefully this month that allows you to rearrange the panels
[2015-08-12 14:39:33] stf28 : or to configure which one i can see ^^
[2015-08-12 14:39:39] stf28 : oh nice !
[2015-08-12 14:39:45] BitMEX_Sam : I built this out a few months ago in preparation
[2015-08-12 14:39:46] BitMEX_Sam : https://strml.github.io/react-grid-layout/examples/0-showcase.html
[2015-08-12 14:39:57] BitMEX_Sam : Just haven't had the time to put it into BitMEX quite yet.
[2015-08-12 14:44:08] stf28 : i like the ui, it has its own style, pretty efficient imho
[2015-08-12 15:25:07] BitMEX_Sam : Just added a little experiment, there's a bar at the bottom of the order controls that tells you what percentage of your order would likely fill if you submitted now
[2015-08-12 15:25:16] BitMEX_Sam : Should hopefully help avoid fat fingers a bit
[2015-08-12 15:25:29] BitMEX_Sam : Let me know if you like it.
[2015-08-12 16:40:46] GAmma : I like the GUI a lot ... basic layout
[2015-08-12 16:41:46] GAmma : keep finding cool elements to it ..
[2015-08-12 16:55:49] gustavo7 : nice
[2015-08-12 17:10:13] lolcookie : volume is so slim :9
[2015-08-12 17:20:04] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: that's pretty handy for getting a quick sense of the orderbook that's off the screen.
[2015-08-12 17:22:38] j8 : btw, there's still a problem with the isolate checkbox and row sorting, happens when i add a position on a contract that wasn't there
[2015-08-12 17:23:18] j8 : the sorting should be by expiry, right?
[2015-08-12 17:30:11] splash : news on trading view?
[2015-08-12 17:41:17] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Could you give some more details - you're saying you have one position that's not isolated, and then you open a new position, and the checkbox moves?
[2015-08-12 17:42:28] j8 : that's right, well maybe the check box stays where it is but there's a different contract on that row now
[2015-08-12 17:42:50] BitMEX_Sam : Sort order is the same as instruments, which is generally series and then expiry. I'll see about making that more intuitive
[2015-08-12 17:43:46] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Thanks, I was just able to replicate it
[2015-08-12 17:44:59] j8 : cool, tricky things.
[2015-08-12 18:11:33] BitMEX_Sam : Interesting bug. React likes to reuse elements whenever possible to save on DOM manipulation costs. In some edge cases (like checkbox elements which have internal state) this can cause issues
[2015-08-12 18:11:45] BitMEX_Sam : I've cleared it up - update is deploying now, I'll push a notification when it's live
[2015-08-12 18:29:55] BitMEX_Sam : splash: TV has been listing us on and off today, looks like they're almost finished
[2015-08-12 18:30:05] BitMEX_Sam : Appears they're just sorting out some data collection & messaging issues
[2015-08-12 19:08:12] splash : BitMEX_Sam: thats great news. i really need my technical mumbo jumbo tools
[2015-08-12 19:09:49] splash : BitMEX_Sam: about react. yea, the virtual DOM in react for sure is all about reusing existing elements. as soon as one introduces JQuery or something, it's all messed up.
[2015-08-12 19:09:57] BitMEX_Sam : Get your lunar cycle tools ready
[2015-08-12 19:10:12] splash : BitMEX_Sam: have u looked into Redux?
[2015-08-12 19:10:20] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we don't use jquery, it's just that `key`s are a bit tricky at times. It gets a bit far into reuse territory
[2015-08-12 19:10:45] BitMEX_Sam : splash: Yep, talked to @gaearon quite a bit about it
[2015-08-12 19:11:14] BitMEX_Sam : It's nice. We don't have any need for it here - what we have works - but it's definitely going into my next OSS project
[2015-08-12 19:11:37] splash : sounds like a nice thing. im not going to use it until its finished though. also im not sure that the whole play, replay state thing always makes sense
[2015-08-12 19:12:02] splash : well.. some trades I make would be nice to replay and change while im at it ;)
[2015-08-12 19:12:09] BitMEX_Sam : I think it's awesome - would love to be able to time-travel debug
[2015-08-12 19:12:30] BitMEX_Sam : I built something out years ago at a previous job where we would snapshot the DOM every second and send the diffs up the pipe when a JS error occured
[2015-08-12 19:12:48] BitMEX_Sam : Then another process would render the pages, turn it into an animated gif (with mouse cursor) and attach it to a ticket with the error & stacktrace
[2015-08-12 19:12:54] splash : BitMEX_Sam: sounds like a neat feautre
[2015-08-12 19:12:59] BitMEX_Sam : With redux you could do one better and attach a working app to the ticket
[2015-08-12 19:13:16] splash : BitMEX_Sam: but how do u replay people inputting trades?
[2015-08-12 19:13:37] BitMEX_Sam : Well, to a certain degree in this app you wouldn't - you couldn't replay actions with side-effects
[2015-08-12 19:13:49] BitMEX_Sam : But if you had the motivation you could mock it up in a test env
[2015-08-12 19:14:02] splash : perhaps docker would come in handy
[2015-08-12 19:14:10] BitMEX_Sam : All hype imo
[2015-08-12 19:14:21] splash : :)
[2015-08-12 19:14:32] BitMEX_Sam : We've done some work with it... not much more useful than bash scripts, not much real isolation, lots of gotchas and bugs
[2015-08-12 19:14:48] BitMEX_Sam : I <3 vagrant but I don't think docker really needs to be a part of that
[2015-08-12 19:14:56] splash : some security issues to i read
[2015-08-12 19:14:57] BitMEX_Sam : like vagrant but docker doesn't really need to be a part of that.
[2015-08-12 19:15:30] splash : vagrant i dont know anything about
[2015-08-12 19:15:30] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. It gets really wonky with persistent data
[2015-08-12 19:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : Docker-compose is pretty nice all things considered. I think it'll be great some day, just not today
[2015-08-12 19:15:52] BitMEX_Sam : Vagrant is just headless VMs
[2015-08-12 19:15:55] splash : ah
[2015-08-12 19:16:21] BitMEX_Sam : So your company can put a Vagrantfile in a repo and all devs need to do is `vagrant up` to get a fully working dev configuration
[2015-08-12 19:17:42] splash : how long have u worked with web?
[2015-08-12 19:17:51] BitMEX_Sam : About 8yrs
[2015-08-12 19:18:25] BitMEX_Sam : Actually a little longer if you count some odd jobs before then.
[2015-08-12 19:22:03] centurygate : Any thoughts on the liquidity situation with ETH?
[2015-08-12 19:22:48] centurygate : I tried doing relative value arbitrage but the lack of counterparties to get even 100 depth at .0001 difference (which is a decent spread) is lacking so re-adjustments are difficult
[2015-08-12 19:23:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, there are some users MMing it and making decent &btc; off the spread
[2015-08-12 19:23:26] centurygate : I had to basically find a counterparty to lighten my hedge
[2015-08-12 19:23:32] BitMEX_Sam : But it doesn't appear anyone has been motivated to tighten the spread just yet
[2015-08-12 19:24:06] centurygate : well that works for arbing your BTC contract against OkCoin's I think if only because the low daily var in BTC relative to this nutty speculative contract creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of more volume
[2015-08-12 19:24:23] centurygate : so it's easier to in a sense, re-market orders from the more liquid BTC books, of which there are many
[2015-08-12 19:24:58] BitMEX_Sam : No doubt there is some opportunity in remarketing here
[2015-08-12 19:25:02] centurygate : but there is only really 1 book to arb ETH off, Polo, and the local contract doesn't move in step with it until it makes a 2 sigma move
[2015-08-12 19:25:13] centurygate : maybe I need more capital to cowboy this pair
[2015-08-12 19:25:27] centurygate : or maybe I need to wait until there are more OI before getting into leverage spreads
[2015-08-12 19:25:42] centurygate : like imagine taking a margin position at Polo with an ETH collateral, so it's like a quanto contract
[2015-08-12 19:26:08] centurygate : and thus leveraged, shorting with some leverage over here when there are .0002 or .0003 spreads (close to 10%)
[2015-08-12 19:26:23] centurygate : but in these early days... man too much volatility, not enough execution
[2015-08-12 19:26:37] centurygate : I think the solution is to allow ETH margining
[2015-08-12 19:26:40] centurygate : so there is no basis risk
[2015-08-12 19:27:06] centurygate : but that would require actually going through the trouble of integrating Frontier to your back-end, any comment on when that may be feasible?
[2015-08-12 19:27:46] splash : BitMEX_Sam: 8 years. wow long tie
[2015-08-12 19:28:03] BitMEX_Sam : Not something we have talked about yet - for now we think there is demand in the market for altcoin contracts margined in Bitcoin
[2015-08-12 19:28:09] centurygate : mathematically, if you do that MMs can have a stock of ETH and collateral calls are more manageable, that could accomplish the liquidity provision needed to track other prices as they move
[2015-08-12 19:28:11] BitMEX_Sam : We don't have any immediate plans to add any altcoin wallets
[2015-08-12 19:28:46] centurygate : I'm trying out a 50/50 collateral mix
[2015-08-12 19:28:53] centurygate : will let you know if that's more pliable
[2015-08-12 19:29:20] BitMEX_Sam : Would be happy to have you talk to Arthur about it, he's a much more technical trader than I am. If there's anything BitMEX can do to help you he would know how to make it happen.
[2015-08-12 19:30:06] centurygate : I spoke with you guys over some bubble tea back in December, and as it goes in start-ups and ventures, things took longer but I'm coming online and want to trade here now that your fee schedule is tigth and you've got a leverage boost over Ok
[2015-08-12 19:30:19] centurygate : arb all over, no more standing liquidity that is mis-priced
[2015-08-12 19:30:59] centurygate : I see a potential for this exchange to start growing up the curve of liquidity and with it, volume
[2015-08-12 19:31:53] BitMEX_Sam : Those are our priorities too - the exchange is reaching a point of maturity where I believe it's possible to start pushing in that direction
[2015-08-12 19:36:46] centurygate : If you want a longer-term view in a short paragraph: look at what Bitfinex has done with Tether and integrating multi-sig. You can support trading of derivatives that are on-blockchain as smart contracts and get a hybrid centralized-decentralized ledger. Then you can market contracts to trade on decentralized exchanges and have fee revenue baked into them - stay ahead of the transformation of the industry.
[2015-08-12 19:37:08] centurygate : I would argue it starts today by considering integrating Frontier and supporting ETH as a second form of collateral.
[2015-08-12 19:37:32] centurygate : because once integrated, and smart contracts on ETH become something with a parse-able balance that can interact with a user's account.
[2015-08-12 19:38:15] centurygate : but by allowing bitcoin to be colalteral, you have a foot in this huge liquidity pool - Ethereum contracts that are popular, standardized contracts become trade-able with hard BTC in cold storage as colalteral
[2015-08-12 19:40:26] centurygate : it's sort of meaningless to pontificate about all the wacky financial instruments one could host until your bread-and-butter contracts are as liquid as the OkCoin futures if not OkCoin spot. But I think that's achievable near-term. ETH liquidity really merits ETH as margin so people can short with impunity. It's convenient to go ahead and integrate that tech because it opens the door to a whole world of future relevance.
[2015-08-12 19:40:53] centurygate : 5 short paragraphs :)
[2015-08-12 19:41:26] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the feedback, we really appreciate someone who is thinking about the future of the industry. We'll talk about it more internally and here soon.
[2015-08-12 19:43:43] centurygate : Cheers
[2015-08-12 20:17:31] SnackyCoins : Love the white bar on the order buttons
[2015-08-12 20:21:22] BitMEX_Sam : :) Glad you like it. I was trying to figure out something unobtrusive that would help traders catch order input mistakes.
[2015-08-12 21:04:48] annica007 : is there a simple way to have the XBT to $ showing and ETH to XBT at the same time?
[2015-08-12 21:10:34] BitMEX_Sam : At this time, no. There is extra room in the ticker, I could put it there.
[2015-08-12 22:00:48] cengel : is there a way to automatically isolate margin for a limit order that gets filled?
[2015-08-12 22:01:20] cengel : nonprogrammatically
[2015-08-12 22:17:33] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, as in, no position open yet, but you want to be in fixed margin when it does
[2015-08-12 22:18:11] BitMEX_Sam : We do not yet have an option for that, I'll add an issue - we'll have to think about how to expose the option since a position is not yet open.
[2015-08-12 23:05:26] annica007 : do you offer a way to receive a data feed?
[2015-08-12 23:06:16] annica007 : for ETH
[2015-08-12 23:16:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you can get a live feed via websocket
[2015-08-12 23:16:56] BitMEX_Sam : The endpoint is `wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime/websocket?subscribe=trade:ETH7D`
[2015-08-12 23:17:25] BitMEX_Sam : You could also subscribe to `orderBook`, `quote`, `instrument`, etc. See https://www.bitmex.com/app/wsAPI#subscriptions
[2015-08-12 23:38:50] ksinvest : this 1000/1000/200 market maker on XBU24H always tries to push the price when it is short. bid now $0.06 above spot, why the hell is this bot doing it?
[2015-08-12 23:40:44] ksinvest : $0.29 above spot now, it just stays at 269.07. maybe really just a TWAP/VWAP bug
[2015-08-12 23:56:40] ksinvest : result: 200 bot burned money, inflated the price and spread
[2015-08-12 23:57:00] ksinvest : closed his short at 268.39, my bot closed his short at 266.60
[2015-08-13 03:59:20] cengel : @BitMEx_Sam yes, i assume it would be relatively simple at the very least to set an option to automatically isolate all opened speculative positions
[2015-08-13 04:00:00] cengel : maybe trickier for implementing into order controls or open orders
[2015-08-13 07:45:08] cengel : pretty big premium on XBTQ15 considering expiree in 2 weeks
[2015-08-13 09:49:31] btcedlo : HI a really newbie question to API. i know "trade?symbol=.BVOL" is for getting .BVOL index price. But what about the real trade done on that day?
[2015-08-13 09:50:25] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com:443/api/v1/trade/byDate?symbol=.BVOL&startTime=2015-08-01
[2015-08-13 09:50:36] BitMEX_Arthur : that gets al trades starting from Aug 1st
[2015-08-13 09:50:49] BitMEX_Arthur : you can check out the API Explorer and customise and try out API calls
[2015-08-13 09:58:07] btcedlo : thanks will try it out!!
[2015-08-13 10:06:46] BitMEX_Wally : btcedlo: `.BVOL` is the index, if you want to see trades have a look at `BVOL24H` or `BVOL7D`
[2015-08-13 10:08:04] BitMEX_Wally : Those futures settle on the `.BVOL24H` index and `.BVOL7D` index respectively each Friday
[2015-08-13 11:31:48] lolcookie : so how do you actually close positions
[2015-08-13 11:33:18] lolcookie : also between mobile and 1200px the trading chart looks terrible
[2015-08-13 11:34:27] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are long, sell. If you are short, buy.
[2015-08-13 11:35:39] lolcookie : and they will claim themselves
[2015-08-13 11:36:42] lolcookie : sorry im just used to finex
[2015-08-13 11:36:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes a buy and a sell cancel each other out on the same contract.
[2015-08-13 11:37:22] BitMEX_Arthur : I buy at 10, I sell at 11. I have a position of 0 and a profit of 1.
[2015-08-13 13:13:56] lolcookie : alright who is the nerd battling me in ETH futures
[2015-08-13 13:16:44] lolcookie : nevermind its a MM bot
[2015-08-13 13:17:17] BitMEX_Sam : MMs got moving on that contract quickly
[2015-08-13 13:17:28] BitMEX_Sam : Morning, btw. Well, depending on where you are
[2015-08-13 15:10:21] goat : Hola!
[2015-08-13 15:10:31] goat : It should be morning here, but its afternoon
[2015-08-13 15:10:43] goat : I have been operating as if im in college recently
[2015-08-13 15:10:55] goat : staying up until like 6-8am doing work/trading
[2015-08-13 15:11:01] BitMEX_Arthur : lol
[2015-08-13 15:11:13] goat : Yeah, its terrible
[2015-08-13 15:11:23] goat : and like 18+ hour days lol
[2015-08-13 15:11:30] BitMEX_Arthur : goat: Have you been trading Ether at all?
[2015-08-13 15:11:44] goat : i shorted a little bit with futures (here) out of the gate, thats it for now
[2015-08-13 15:11:58] goat : no reason to trade it imo, too many variables
[2015-08-13 15:12:19] goat : i have a friend who bought a LOT during the ipo and forgot his wallet password
[2015-08-13 15:12:32] BitMEX_Arthur : ouch
[2015-08-13 15:12:37] goat : im going to help him with this brute force python script
[2015-08-13 15:12:53] BitMEX_Arthur : he should sell some `ETH7D` to lock in his profit
[2015-08-13 15:13:01] goat : yeah i know man i have been telling him that
[2015-08-13 15:13:08] goat : i told him on day 1 to short the shit out of i t here
[2015-08-13 15:13:14] goat : then slowly sell some of his
[2015-08-13 15:14:09] goat : who knows, its just hilarious because he is actually one of the smartest people i know and works a decent position in the traditional finance world
[2015-08-13 15:14:19] goat : and everything he has ever done crypto has gone horribly wrong in a sense
[2015-08-13 15:14:44] goat : i told him to buy btc forever ago and he bot a ton of them below 100, then sold at exactly 200 figuring he more than doubled his money
[2015-08-13 15:14:53] goat : then called me when they were over 1k and said he wanted to kill himself lol
[2015-08-13 15:15:20] goat : then he bought a large amount of ether in the first presale and cant figure out his password lol
[2015-08-13 15:17:50] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: yo actually i wanted to ask you this bc you probably know
[2015-08-13 15:18:06] goat : whats the difference between CNY and CNY, one is onshore one is off?
[2015-08-13 15:18:12] BitMEX_Arthur : CNY is onshore
[2015-08-13 15:18:15] BitMEX_Arthur : CNH is offshore
[2015-08-13 15:18:35] BitMEX_Arthur : The PBOC sets the onshore fixing at 9:15am Beijing time daily
[2015-08-13 15:19:03] goat : Ok cool, and its restricted to a 2% trading band? correct?
[2015-08-13 15:19:11] BitMEX_Arthur : yes
[2015-08-13 15:19:16] goat : which is determined from that fixing rate daily?
[2015-08-13 15:19:33] BitMEX_Arthur : well it just changed it's more supply and demand focused
[2015-08-13 15:19:42] BitMEX_Arthur : basically the PBOC has given up proping up the CNY
[2015-08-13 15:20:00] BitMEX_Arthur : the market forces dictate that CNY should weaken, they have been keeping it strong for the last little while
[2015-08-13 15:20:15] BitMEX_Arthur : the thinking goes ,now that SDR decision has been delayed until next year
[2015-08-13 15:20:23] goat : yeah, i was reading the tweets yesterday
[2015-08-13 15:20:31] BitMEX_Arthur : PBOC can stop propping it up, and let it weaken
[2015-08-13 15:20:37] BitMEX_Arthur : solves a bunch of problems for them
[2015-08-13 15:20:39] goat : yeah, agreed
[2015-08-13 15:20:48] goat : im just trying to figure out the best strategy for trading this
[2015-08-13 15:21:07] goat : i would expect onshore to lead offshore
[2015-08-13 15:21:09] goat : but im charting it now
[2015-08-13 15:23:02] goat : if we really "see a 10% devaluation", were like 1/3 of the way there...
[2015-08-13 15:24:31] goat : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GHUlTQsF/
[2015-08-13 15:25:47] goat : thick red line is the fixed onshore rate
[2015-08-13 15:27:00] goat : And another question that i actually have had for years now, is it the same difference between RUR and RUB?
[2015-08-13 15:27:05] goat : onshore/offshore?
[2015-08-13 15:27:12] BitMEX_Arthur : no idea about Russia lol
[2015-08-13 15:27:15] BitMEX_Arthur : never traded that
[2015-08-13 15:27:22] BitMEX_Arthur : i did trade shit tons of CNY and CNH tho
[2015-08-13 15:27:23] goat : yeah i just always wondered that
[2015-08-13 15:27:32] goat : haha so my chart means nothing to do lol
[2015-08-13 15:27:34] goat : to you
[2015-08-13 15:27:51] BitMEX_Arthur : lol
[2015-08-13 15:30:24] goat : im writing my own shitlicense
[2015-08-13 15:30:27] goat : i bought shitlicense.com
[2015-08-13 15:32:04] goat : or i might github it and have the community help
[2015-08-13 15:34:55] chrisxbt : wow that eth pump
[2015-08-13 15:35:32] BitMEX_Arthur : can't stop, won't stop
[2015-08-13 15:36:14] chrisxbt : Have you considered adding polo to the index on friday?
[2015-08-13 15:36:28] BitMEX_Arthur : We are going to switch to polo on friday
[2015-08-13 15:37:32] BitMEX_Arthur : after settlement
[2015-08-13 15:40:37] goat : holy crap lol its stil going
[2015-08-13 15:41:43] goat : and almost at parity with XCP
[2015-08-13 15:42:27] goat : and there are 72m eth and 2m xcp
[2015-08-13 15:50:37] BitMEX_Arthur : Ether has infinite inflation
[2015-08-13 15:50:41] BitMEX_Arthur : going to be a fun alt to trade
[2015-08-13 15:50:50] BitMEX_Arthur : the trading volumes are very impressive
[2015-08-13 15:55:31] goat : yeah polo made over 8 btc in commissions today
[2015-08-13 15:58:23] goat : or probably double that actually
[2015-08-13 15:58:29] goat : bc they make commissions on both sides of the trade
[2015-08-13 15:58:43] BitMEX_Arthur : yep
[2015-08-13 16:01:46] lolcookie : wow 565
[2015-08-13 16:02:01] gustavo7 : now in full fomo mode
[2015-08-13 16:02:09] gustavo7 : eff meee
[2015-08-13 16:02:35] lolcookie : i did 484 ->550
[2015-08-13 16:03:10] lolcookie : this is my last exchange
[2015-08-13 16:03:31] lolcookie : bitcoin has slain me in the past
[2015-08-13 16:11:00] goat : wow serious eth pump on polo
[2015-08-13 16:11:13] goat : had a chance to buy a few futures at the top here, then market maker reset lol :(
[2015-08-13 16:11:17] BitMEX_Sam : Polo is 0.2% comms right?
[2015-08-13 16:11:33] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah
[2015-08-13 16:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : So yeah, about 16 XBT yest in comms, not bad
[2015-08-13 16:12:53] gustavo7 : typical altcoin p&d
[2015-08-13 16:20:23] gustavo7 : huh, now my old position closed with a canceled order?
[2015-08-13 16:23:15] gustavo7 : can some admin check my previous ETH7D position?
[2015-08-13 16:23:34] BitMEX_Sam : Sure, we'll take a look - what's the issue?
[2015-08-13 16:24:27] gustavo7 : well it vanished from "Open Positions" after i canceled my exit. It's not in "Closed Position" and there is no trace in "All Orders"
[2015-08-13 16:24:53] BitMEX_Sam : Check your email - you may have a notice
[2015-08-13 16:27:11] gustavo7 : ok is liqidated
[2015-08-13 16:27:50] gustavo7 : but where it hit 620+? which number actually liquidates fair price or last price?
[2015-08-13 16:28:24] gustavo7 : mark price?
[2015-08-13 16:35:03] lolcookie : 14 hours til okcoin settlement
[2015-08-13 16:35:57] gustavo7 : lol so MP was higher than FP, LP, Index... real nice, lucky me
[2015-08-13 16:37:33] lolcookie : were you the 150@609?
[2015-08-13 16:39:30] gustavo7 : nope much less volume s it's not that bad
[2015-08-13 16:56:12] BitMEX_Wally : gustavo7: Futures are liquidated based on the markPrice, which for `ETH7D` is the fairPrice, i.e. the last traded price on Kraken
[2015-08-13 16:56:58] BitMEX_Wally : The price on Kraken reached 0.00624 at 16:16 GMT
[2015-08-13 17:13:08] gustavo7 : ok then, i was recognizing what liqidation meant, i assumed when i isolate i get an actual order
[2015-08-13 17:13:20] gustavo7 : i should have just read
[2015-08-13 17:13:39] gustavo7 : but seriously when there will be stop orders? :)
[2015-08-13 17:13:58] cengel : it was supposed to be monday but now i think its Soon (TM)
[2015-08-13 17:16:06] gustavo7 : as always thanks wally
[2015-08-13 17:24:24] coinprophet : folks remove your sell orders
[2015-08-13 17:24:57] coinprophet : on ETH
[2015-08-13 17:25:12] GAmma : big sell wall there
[2015-08-13 17:25:21] GAmma : I'm short from much lower ... lol
[2015-08-13 17:27:39] coinprophet : ETH $100M market cap
[2015-08-13 17:27:45] goat : looks like eth is going to do a ltc pump and dump, gonna try to short the top again
[2015-08-13 17:27:58] goat : whenever that is, and its probably higher
[2015-08-13 17:28:57] coinprophet : 1600k btc support on polo
[2015-08-13 17:30:04] goat : yeah pump walls
[2015-08-13 18:33:22] coinprophet : .007!!!
[2015-08-13 19:32:56] BitMEX_Sam : Down we go
[2015-08-13 19:40:10] splash : yea
[2015-08-13 19:41:09] splash : do you have any plans for updating the profit loss calculator?