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[2016-06-13 11:53:44] rapidtrades : i meant here too
[2016-06-13 11:54:01] rapidtrades : oh well..prepare ur aholes longers
[2016-06-13 11:54:26] BTCDJS : ok I've lowered my expectations 699
[2016-06-13 11:54:51] luckynuke : okcoin 708$
[2016-06-13 11:54:57] BTCDJS : one last little thrust before you come
[2016-06-13 11:55:03] luckynuke : wtf no woodchipper. Okcoin
[2016-06-13 11:55:09] luckynuke : lool
[2016-06-13 11:55:34] rapidtrades : u can't avoid the censor b1tch
[2016-06-13 11:55:48] luckynuke : o k c o i n
[2016-06-13 11:55:53] luckynuke : ahhh
[2016-06-13 11:56:10] rapidtrades : try the n-word
[2016-06-13 11:56:14] luckynuke : fuck the censor
[2016-06-13 11:56:16] BTCDJS : come on finex just a little bit more.
[2016-06-13 11:56:23] luckynuke : f u c k the censor
[2016-06-13 11:56:34] rapidtrades : lol nuke's mad
[2016-06-13 11:56:43] luckynuke : little bit maybe
[2016-06-13 11:56:45] BTCDJS : luckynuke: yeah try the n word
[2016-06-13 11:56:49] BTCDJS : its funny
[2016-06-13 11:56:55] luckynuke : what n word ?
[2016-06-13 11:57:12] rapidtrades : for black people
[2016-06-13 11:57:22] luckynuke : negro ?
[2016-06-13 11:57:26] rapidtrades : wtf man
[2016-06-13 11:57:31] luckynuke : :D
[2016-06-13 11:57:33] billz : nigga?
[2016-06-13 11:57:39] BTCDJS : :D
[2016-06-13 11:57:39] rapidtrades : that was just ugly @luckynuke
[2016-06-13 11:57:52] luckynuke : wow
[2016-06-13 11:57:53] luckynuke : dont cry
[2016-06-13 11:58:46] BTCDJS : yeah pretty disgusting. Change with the times man
[2016-06-13 11:59:03] Mr Blue : coinbase 706 okc 707
[2016-06-13 11:59:28] luckynuke : up with bitcoin. btc e 675, finex 693, china far above 715
[2016-06-13 12:00:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 803508 @ 698.01 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-13 12:00:18] tscha : wow
[2016-06-13 12:00:28] tscha : oh
[2016-06-13 12:00:35] tscha : just funding
[2016-06-13 12:01:02] stf28 : don't understand, were short, no 1% earned ?
[2016-06-13 12:01:05] lockhedge : mark price increased 0.77%
[2016-06-13 12:01:21] rapidtrades : stf28: check ur history
[2016-06-13 12:01:22] luckynuke : get rekt shorters
[2016-06-13 12:01:28] BTCDJS : so because of funding price went up?????
[2016-06-13 12:01:38] luckynuke : next target 900
[2016-06-13 12:01:47] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: Check your trade history for 'Funding': https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-13 12:02:41] stf28 : yeah funding -1.125% but after it made like 20orders at 0.75%, why ?
[2016-06-13 12:03:27] BTCDJS : luckynuke: don't be silly
[2016-06-13 12:03:46] BitMEX_Wally : The new funding rate is now 0.75% because the observed premium dropped
[2016-06-13 12:03:59] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-06-13 12:04:11] rapidtrades : cmon rally u b1tch
[2016-06-13 12:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : 0.7787%
[2016-06-13 12:04:13] stf28 : no no i'm talking about orders passed without any action of mine
[2016-06-13 12:04:23] stf28 : at every funding it does this
[2016-06-13 12:04:46] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: I am not sure what you are saying. Please explain what the issue is
[2016-06-13 12:04:47] rapidtrades : are u trading at fixed margin and get margin called?
[2016-06-13 12:04:52] rapidtrades : stf28:
[2016-06-13 12:05:09] stf28 : every day at the same time, during funding the system passes order for me, i don't want it
[2016-06-13 12:05:11] rapidtrades : mark price just jumped $8 dollars
[2016-06-13 12:05:19] rapidtrades : stf28: are ur orders closed now
[2016-06-13 12:05:30] stf28 : don't think i was called, no they close and reopen it
[2016-06-13 12:05:38] stf28 : everytime at my disadvantage
[2016-06-13 12:05:40] rapidtrades : weird
[2016-06-13 12:06:03] stf28 : i thought it was normal action since it does this everytime
[2016-06-13 12:06:06] rapidtrades : prolly just newb talk....support should clear it up
[2016-06-13 12:06:15] luckynuke : halving in 1 month. still time for growing :)
[2016-06-13 12:06:21] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-06-13 12:06:49] Yumi : hello support, my issue is I got rekt, fix please ;)
[2016-06-13 12:06:52] luckynuke : wat
[2016-06-13 12:07:00] stf28 : Yumi: yes exactly ^^
[2016-06-13 12:07:18] arbitrage001 : where can i view dpe in the account page?
[2016-06-13 12:07:18] luckynuke : https://www.weusecoins.com/why-bitcoin-growth-normal/
[2016-06-13 12:07:30] arbitrage001 : how it impact profit and loss
[2016-06-13 12:07:36] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: are you using a bot to trade, I see you submitting orders via the API
[2016-06-13 12:07:50] yerb : whats up with this wall
[2016-06-13 12:08:05] Yumi : rapidtrades: did you get answer about XBTU16 price marking?
[2016-06-13 12:08:09] yerb : liquidation?
[2016-06-13 12:08:09] rapidtrades : yerb: its the old liquidation
[2016-06-13 12:08:13] rapidtrades : Yumi: nope
[2016-06-13 12:08:15] stf28 : yes, but just recently @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-13 12:08:16] BTCDJS : yerb: its a better wall than trump could ever build
[2016-06-13 12:08:23] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: what is the oldest long ?
[2016-06-13 12:08:24] rapidtrades : they avoided my q twice now
[2016-06-13 12:08:26] yerb : hehe
[2016-06-13 12:08:27] chromaticcr1 : lol @BTCDJS
[2016-06-13 12:08:34] BitMEX_Wally : At 2016.06.13 11:59:49 you submitted an order to sell XBTUSD at 697.23 and then after funding the it was filled 2016.06.13 12:00:09
[2016-06-13 12:08:56] chromaticcr1 : you know what? This is great wall of china 2.0
[2016-06-13 12:08:57] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX is not placing orders for you. You are running a bot that is placing orders
[2016-06-13 12:09:09] stf28 : orders from my bot aren't supposed to pay 0.075 no?
[2016-06-13 12:09:18] rapidtrades : wat
[2016-06-13 12:09:52] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: Your bot will pay the 0.075% taker fee it if submits an aggressive order that trades against the order book immediately
[2016-06-13 12:10:18] BitMEX_Wally : Send `execInst: ParticipateDoNotInitiate` if you would like it to cancel orders that will pay the taker fee
[2016-06-13 12:10:21] stf28 : every funding it's the same, no orders from me, just the system rebuying my position at different price is that normal behavior?
[2016-06-13 12:10:31] BTCDJS : stf28: train your bot to make you regular cups of coffee.
[2016-06-13 12:10:33] stf28 : BitMEX_Wally: you can see my bot is trading only for 2 days
[2016-06-13 12:10:41] yerb : why isnt this wall placed lower?
[2016-06-13 12:11:13] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: You placed an order to sell Bitcoin at 696.42 when the bid price was 698.01 so it immediately traded and you paid the 0.075% taker fee
[2016-06-13 12:11:28] rapidtrades : idk guess arthur wants it finally cleared @yerb
[2016-06-13 12:11:29] Yumi : yerb: it got placed at mark price
[2016-06-13 12:11:38] rapidtrades : Yumi: nope
[2016-06-13 12:11:44] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: where can i see the dpe effect on the account page?
[2016-06-13 12:11:55] rapidtrades : its being aggressed
[2016-06-13 12:11:58] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so shooters are bona get REKT?
[2016-06-13 12:12:12] BTCDJS : shorters
[2016-06-13 12:12:20] rapidtrades : see they're moving it up
[2016-06-13 12:12:40] Yumi : but who is paying for that?
[2016-06-13 12:12:48] BitMEX_Wally : stf28: Please send an email to support@bitmex.com with logs explaining exactly what the problem is. As far as I can tell your system is submitting orders that are aggressing into the market
[2016-06-13 12:12:51] rapidtrades : arthur
[2016-06-13 12:13:12] Yumi : no honestly
[2016-06-13 12:13:17] yerb : shorting party is on :)
[2016-06-13 12:13:23] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-06-13 12:13:26] stf28 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, i don't usually write to btc xchanges support...
[2016-06-13 12:13:39] Bacon futures trader : 10/10 would not short
[2016-06-13 12:13:46] luckynuke : bitmex so bullish
[2016-06-13 12:13:59] yerb : hehe
[2016-06-13 12:14:05] yerb : its fugazzi
[2016-06-13 12:14:05] BitMEX_Wally : The short liquidation position received funding so it is being aggressed
[2016-06-13 12:14:11] mjmj83 : is it possible to create more accounts? Or subaccounts?
[2016-06-13 12:14:41] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: You can create as many accounts as you like. If you use gmail you can use `your.email+somerandomalias@gmail.com`
[2016-06-13 12:14:42] Yumi : shouldnt funding be used to reduce profit cuts from last 24 hours?
[2016-06-13 12:14:50] yerb : some idiot is placing buy orders in front of the wall
[2016-06-13 12:15:08] yerb : probably bot
[2016-06-13 12:15:10] BitMEX_Wally : Yumi: The liquidation order needs to be filled and any remaining margin will go into the insurance fund to reduce future DPE
[2016-06-13 12:15:11] mjmj83 : thanks!
[2016-06-13 12:15:44] luckynuke : china is staying faw above 700
[2016-06-13 12:16:06] BTCDJS : damn. Wish I stuck to my original short order of 710 :/
[2016-06-13 12:16:09] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: You can view the DPE history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-06-13 12:16:37] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: ok. but the effect on my pnl?
[2016-06-13 12:17:10] arbitrage001 : how was the loss distributed among traders
[2016-06-13 12:17:24] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: u got all of it
[2016-06-13 12:17:29] rapidtrades : sry try again
[2016-06-13 12:17:49] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: dont understand
[2016-06-13 12:18:06] Yumi : to beat the system you have to make sure you have negative profit at rebalance
[2016-06-13 12:18:07] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: DPE distrubution is luck-based
[2016-06-13 12:18:26] rapidtrades : it picks several accounts per random
[2016-06-13 12:18:29] BitMEX_Wally : The rate was 12.48% and so look at your CashRebalance here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet Just take the net rebalance you received and divide by 1-0.1248 to get the gross PNL
[2016-06-13 12:19:18] rapidtrades : cmon let's rally
[2016-06-13 12:19:23] arbitrage001 : Yumi: you mean if a trader pnl is negative during that time, he isnt affected?
[2016-06-13 12:19:51] Yumi : no profits, no cuts, easy game, easy life
[2016-06-13 12:20:11] rapidtrades : no profits, no tax
[2016-06-13 12:20:14] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: can you confirm what yumi stated is true?
[2016-06-13 12:20:15] rapidtrades : just ask amazon
[2016-06-13 12:20:20] BTCDJS : are we really going up?
[2016-06-13 12:20:30] BitMEX_Wally : The DPE rate applies equally to all net profits during that rebalance interval
[2016-06-13 12:20:30] rapidtrades : idk finex 695
[2016-06-13 12:20:38] Mr Blue : my profit seems down, got at 690 sold at 710, had just over 6000 so 10 BTC + x $20 should = $200 - fee's but only got 0.152 in withheld profit, still a nice trade but seems 0.1 BTC down lol
[2016-06-13 12:20:38] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: hope so
[2016-06-13 12:20:39] lockhedge : Yumi: best case scenario during dpe: no profit from trading, but profit from commissions and interest which are not subject to dpe
[2016-06-13 12:20:42] haxmb : someone hedging @ finex
[2016-06-13 12:20:56] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, commissions and funding are not subject to DPE
[2016-06-13 12:21:09] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: if there is no profit, then there is no cut due to dpe?
[2016-06-13 12:21:20] BitMEX_Wally : arbitrage001: Correct, only profits are adjusted, not losses
[2016-06-13 12:21:26] BTCDJS : its sleger
[2016-06-13 12:21:26] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: ok thank you
[2016-06-13 12:21:34] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: where
[2016-06-13 12:21:46] BTCDJS : hes pouring all his money in finex
[2016-06-13 12:21:53] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-06-13 12:22:05] BTCDJS : haxmb: someone hedging @ fine @rapidtrades
[2016-06-13 12:22:26] rapidtrades : guess 0.77% is not bad
[2016-06-13 12:23:04] BTCDJS : damn. looks like Im flogging a dead horse here
[2016-06-13 12:23:10] rapidtrades : i would prefer 1.1% tho
[2016-06-13 12:23:11] arbitrage001 : 0.77% for 8 hours
[2016-06-13 12:23:18] rapidtrades : yah
[2016-06-13 12:23:57] aethlios : arbitrage001: this order will keep next premium high
[2016-06-13 12:24:10] arbitrage001 : aethlios: what order
[2016-06-13 12:24:17] aethlios : arbitrage001: dpe order
[2016-06-13 12:24:18] Yumi : just get ride of liquidation before next pump
[2016-06-13 12:24:32] rapidtrades : nope keep it
[2016-06-13 12:24:33] stf28 : bfx lol
[2016-06-13 12:24:36] arbitrage001 : aethlios: it will go away if price correct just a little bit
[2016-06-13 12:25:35] Bacon futures trader : moon
[2016-06-13 12:26:38] aethlios : okcoin futures don't want to go higher, spread converged
[2016-06-13 12:26:53] rapidtrades : don't worry about it @aethlios
[2016-06-13 12:27:14] aethlios : rapidtrades: sell off is close, below 600 soon
[2016-06-13 12:27:38] arbitrage001 : aethlios: people are predicting 3000 usd
[2016-06-13 12:27:40] Mr Blue : itbit just joined the $700 club for all you guys who are still long, so itbit coinbase and okc all over 700.. but as I need to buy back in hoping for a drop lol
[2016-06-13 12:27:58] Blargwaffle : 900-1000 a week after halving.
[2016-06-13 12:28:52] lockhedge : is Bitcoin now always pumping after BitMEX's mark price jumps at funding/rebalance?
[2016-06-13 12:28:52] Yumi : 719?! guys, this premium is way too high, I just was on the phone with Arthur and he said if you wont get it in check with mark price there will be "premium tax" introduced - everyone who is long on swap will be taxed every hour 1% of total account value, as long until premium wont get down ;) ;)
[2016-06-13 12:29:01] laurenssteen : Blargwaffle: you're not allowed to say that here. Last time I said that, I was called a newbie ;)
[2016-06-13 12:29:17] BTCDJS : well fuck me we are actually going up
[2016-06-13 12:29:20] Blargwaffle : Things change.
[2016-06-13 12:29:21] Mr Blue : finex joined 700 club, I'm buying back in lol
[2016-06-13 12:31:07] elmorte : Shattered 700 on finex
[2016-06-13 12:31:26] yerb : anothe
[2016-06-13 12:32:22] yerb : im not spammin the chat, the website froze
[2016-06-13 12:32:38] Yumi : website is fine
[2016-06-13 12:32:52] Blargwaffle : I've seen website be odd, it's fine now.
[2016-06-13 12:33:21] yerb : sometimes website freezes
[2016-06-13 12:33:46] BitMEX_Wally : Yumi: Arthur said no such thing, he will come into this trollbox now to confirm
[2016-06-13 12:33:55] stf28 : 1% by hour ??
[2016-06-13 12:34:02] Yumi : lol
[2016-06-13 12:34:04] BTCDJS : bull trap?
[2016-06-13 12:34:16] Yumi : I put 2 winks in the end
[2016-06-13 12:34:22] Bacon futures trader : Someone fill my shorts
[2016-06-13 12:34:26] lockhedge : a few flash crashes around 12:00 UTC https://tradeblock.com/markets/huob/xbt-cny/1m/
[2016-06-13 12:34:55] lockhedge : that's 7-8% down each time
[2016-06-13 12:35:41] rapidtrades : lockhedge: don't worry about it
[2016-06-13 12:37:45] ButchPooch : Why do I have to wait 4 days for cash rebalance?
[2016-06-13 12:37:48] lockhedge : rapidtrades: it doesn't tell anything about the direction, just about liquidity and market quality
[2016-06-13 12:37:51] ButchPooch : And what does it mean?
[2016-06-13 12:37:56] elmorte : Bacon futures trader: fill your own shorts man, lol
[2016-06-13 12:38:27] BitMEX_Wally : ButchPooch: XBTUSD rebalances daily, the other contracts every Friday
[2016-06-13 12:38:44] Bitcoingirl : this bubble is so bubblely
[2016-06-13 12:38:49] ButchPooch : What does it mean? Will my balance be reduced?
[2016-06-13 12:39:08] rapidtrades : Bitcoingirl: <<<<scholar of the markets right here
[2016-06-13 12:39:10] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalance means that you will be able to withdraw your profit
[2016-06-13 12:39:28] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: when did you guys change the calc for the contract value
[2016-06-13 12:39:33] haxmb : for XBTUSD
[2016-06-13 12:39:36] elmorte : I'm close to being $150 below market other on my short
[2016-06-13 12:39:48] elmorte : Other = price
[2016-06-13 12:39:50] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: It has always been `-1 / price`
[2016-06-13 12:39:58] BitMEX_Wally : For XBTUSD
[2016-06-13 12:40:18] haxmb : erm
[2016-06-13 12:40:23] Bitcoingirl : BitMEX_Wally: maybe you need a market maker to arbitrage XBT and spot?
[2016-06-13 12:40:29] haxmb : 1 contract is worth $1 right?
[2016-06-13 12:40:35] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: Correct
[2016-06-13 12:40:44] elmorte : Bitcoingirl: that would imply one of those is accurate
[2016-06-13 12:40:46] rapidtrades : woooo $700 hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-06-13 12:40:58] BitMEX_Wally : So the value in Bitcoin is `-1 / price`
[2016-06-13 12:41:02] haxmb : ok cheers
[2016-06-13 12:41:04] ButchPooch : BitMEX_Wally: could you please link me where to learn what unrealised ROE, PNL are?
[2016-06-13 12:41:22] BitMEX_Wally : Unrealised PNL is the profit/loss between your entry price and the current mark price
[2016-06-13 12:41:44] BitMEX_Wally : ROE is return on equity which is your Unrealised PNL as a percentage multiplied by your leverage setting
[2016-06-13 12:41:58] elmorte : I can't tell when @BitMEX_Wally is trolling, he's too subtle
[2016-06-13 12:42:01] Blargwaffle : No DPE? huh...
[2016-06-13 12:42:27] ButchPooch : BitMEX_Wally: i don't get how could ROE be already 20% as soon as I open the position
[2016-06-13 12:42:34] elmorte : Poor sods paid for it at noon UTC @Blargwaffle
[2016-06-13 12:42:45] Blargwaffle : Dang, what was it?
[2016-06-13 12:42:51] BitMEX_Wally : If you are on 50x then that means the mark price is 0.4% above your entry price
[2016-06-13 12:43:01] elmorte : 11% last I logged in
[2016-06-13 12:43:05] Blargwaffle : Guh.
[2016-06-13 12:43:15] Bacon futures trader : I got a short that should be underwater but I'm having a positive pnl somehow
[2016-06-13 12:43:16] aethlios : ButchPooch: mark price below spot
[2016-06-13 12:43:16] elmorte : I'm sure there's a link to it
[2016-06-13 12:43:21] Yumi : ButchPooch: dont look at ROE, its useless confusing stat, focus on entry and exit price
[2016-06-13 12:43:32] aethlios : Bacon futures trader: mark price below spot
[2016-06-13 12:43:32] ButchPooch : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. And what abkut realozed PNL?
[2016-06-13 12:43:34] Bitcoingirl : wait
[2016-06-13 12:43:37] Bitcoingirl : my liquidation price is 717.96
[2016-06-13 12:43:44] elmorte : Oh snap
[2016-06-13 12:43:45] ButchPooch : Yumi: as I supposed, ty
[2016-06-13 12:43:59] elmorte : Bitcoingirl: check your leverage!
[2016-06-13 12:44:02] luckynuke : where are the rektmessages ?
[2016-06-13 12:44:07] Bitcoingirl : my leverage is 24.83x right now
[2016-06-13 12:44:16] elmorte : luckynuke: REKT got REKT
[2016-06-13 12:44:25] Bacon futures trader : aethlios: Feeling a bit retarded but what is mark price compared to spot price?
[2016-06-13 12:44:27] BitMEX_Wally : If you pay or earn fees/funding that goes into Realised PNL. If you close a position then the difference between entry and exit price goes into Realised PNL
[2016-06-13 12:44:29] elmorte : Bitcoingirl: are you on cross?
[2016-06-13 12:44:33] Bacon futures trader : ik what spot price is
[2016-06-13 12:44:39] Bitcoingirl : elmorte: what is cross?
[2016-06-13 12:44:40] Bitcoingirl : im on 35x
[2016-06-13 12:45:00] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: are there any possibilities to fund the margin on bitmex ?
[2016-06-13 12:45:03] elmorte : Type of margin, under the order controls...that colourful slider
[2016-06-13 12:45:09] BitMEX_Wally : luckynuke: Sure just short XBTUSD and you will earn it
[2016-06-13 12:45:10] aethlios : Bacon futures trader: mark price is the price the system calculates p&L, see open position table.
[2016-06-13 12:45:28] BitMEX_Wally : Cross margin means your entire account balance is used to fund the position, which keeps the liquidation price as far away as possible
[2016-06-13 12:45:44] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: no i want to lend my bitcoin
[2016-06-13 12:45:55] Bitcoingirl : @BitMEX_Wally Do I want to do that? Can I rely on DPE kicking in?
[2016-06-13 12:46:03] Bitcoingirl : Like would I lose less if I make DPE take the hit?
[2016-06-13 12:46:03] Bacon futures trader : Unrealised pnl is postive but realised pnl is negative
[2016-06-13 12:46:24] BitMEX_Wally : Bacon futures trader: Sounds like you paid fees to enter the position (taker fees) but the price is in your favour (unrealised PNL)
[2016-06-13 12:47:07] BitMEX_Wally : luckynuke: No-one is borrowing Bitcoin here, so there is no-one to lend it to
[2016-06-13 12:47:08] ButchPooch : What if withheld profit is negative?
[2016-06-13 12:47:14] Bitcoingirl : Will BitMEX take from my account balance, or only the margin amount?
[2016-06-13 12:47:14] BitMEX_Wally : ButchPooch: Not possible
[2016-06-13 12:47:30] aethlios : people read the documentation
[2016-06-13 12:47:31] Bacon futures trader : Alright thanks @BitMEX_Wally & @aethlios
[2016-06-13 12:47:35] ButchPooch : I see it as a red line in my balance
[2016-06-13 12:47:36] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: would be a nice option for more user
[2016-06-13 12:47:42] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoingirl: DPE only applies to profit made on the contract during that rebalance period
[2016-06-13 12:47:42] ButchPooch : Does it mean it will be deducted?
[2016-06-13 12:47:55] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: how far away are we from withdrawals?
[2016-06-13 12:48:05] BitMEX_Wally : 13 minutes
[2016-06-13 12:48:26] BTCDJS : thanks
[2016-06-13 12:48:37] elmorte : BTCDJS: Depends on your last hit
[2016-06-13 12:48:42] ButchPooch : BitMEX_Wally: withheld profit is a red line in my balance. Does it mean it will be deducted?
[2016-06-13 12:49:09] jesperf : BTCDJS: there is a countdown on the withdraw page
[2016-06-13 12:49:19] elmorte : ButchPooch: no, it's a profit
[2016-06-13 12:49:22] BitMEX_Wally : Withheld profit means you cannot withdraw or re-leverage it. It is held incase there is DPE on your profit
[2016-06-13 12:49:32] BitMEX_Wally : So withheld profit reduces your Available Balance
[2016-06-13 12:49:33] BTCDJS : elmorte: you're just a canny lad aren't you? Bless your cotton socks
[2016-06-13 12:49:36] ButchPooch : Thanks God
[2016-06-13 12:49:49] ButchPooch : Thank you for your help. Really appreciate that
[2016-06-13 12:50:10] BitMEX_Wally : You're welcome
[2016-06-13 12:50:18] BitMEX_Wally : We have the friendliest Trollbox in Bitcoin
[2016-06-13 12:50:34] tscha : msft bought LinkedIn
[2016-06-13 12:50:57] jesperf : everybody dance now
[2016-06-13 12:50:58] jesperf : ┏(-_-)┛┗(-_- )┓┗(-_-)┛┏(-_-)┓
[2016-06-13 12:51:05] luckynuke : BitMEX_Wally: lol
[2016-06-13 12:51:37] Bitcoingirl : alright im shorting even moer at 715
[2016-06-13 12:51:54] elmorte : Bitcoingirl: fixed your liquidation price issue?
[2016-06-13 12:51:57] haxmb : short short short short
[2016-06-13 12:52:00] billz : be careful, there's a big wall at 711
[2016-06-13 12:52:01] haxmb : waaah
[2016-06-13 12:52:31] Yumi : the wall in front of liquidation got removed
[2016-06-13 12:52:50] billz : ah nice
[2016-06-13 12:53:12] Mr Blue : if we pass 745 the sky is the limit, at least till people realise and move BTC to sell on the exchanges
[2016-06-13 12:53:14] mjmj83 : how does the CashRebalance of interest work? first it was 0.11162254 and now 0.09794696 XBT?
[2016-06-13 12:53:17] rapidtrades : cmon china push this shit up or down...need to eat
[2016-06-13 12:53:34] mjmj83 : it's still pending
[2016-06-13 12:53:40] elmorte : Damn rapid, I'll chip in for pizza
[2016-06-13 12:54:39] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: That is the next rebalance, we show your realised PNL from this session there
[2016-06-13 12:54:57] BitMEX_Wally : The timestamp is in the future
[2016-06-13 12:55:07] mjmj83 : ah, damn, you're right :)
[2016-06-13 12:55:41] Yumi : the word is they banned the guy who put wall in front of liquidation for competition with exchange, not a place for non team players, everyone's job is to get liquidation filled
[2016-06-13 12:56:46] Blargwaffle : Where?
[2016-06-13 12:56:56] Yumi : I short a bit, you short a bit and we get job done
[2016-06-13 12:56:58] mjmj83 : But where can I see the interest I have earned today? On today's cashrebalance I see -0.05%
[2016-06-13 12:57:04] billz : i'm currently regretting selling into the liquidation lol
[2016-06-13 12:57:08] billz : hopefully this hype train takes a dip below 700 again
[2016-06-13 12:57:10] mjmj83 : but I only did short
[2016-06-13 12:57:17] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: See 'Funding' in your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-13 12:57:22] elmorte : On trade history @mjmj83
[2016-06-13 12:57:23] BitMEX_Wally : The funding is paid after rebalance
[2016-06-13 12:57:35] rapidtrades : minus means u got paid
[2016-06-13 12:57:37] elmorte : I
[2016-06-13 12:57:50] elmorte : The last one is a beaut!
[2016-06-13 12:59:42] mjmj83 : Thanks guys. I have to look at Funding, correct?
[2016-06-13 12:59:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2016-06-13 12:59:52] mjmj83 : Funding will be 3 times a day and Rebalance daily?
[2016-06-13 13:00:02] BitMEX_Wally : Correct
[2016-06-13 13:00:07] mjmj83 : ok
[2016-06-13 13:00:39] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: very clever change the funding, will keep premium close to spot!!
[2016-06-13 13:01:08] Yumi : so they say
[2016-06-13 13:01:48] aethlios : with out the change the swap spot would be now 800
[2016-06-13 13:02:43] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-13 13:05:28] chromaticcr1 : i remembered like at the beginning of the year, we have had daily contract 50$ above spot
[2016-06-13 13:06:23] Yumi : it was a quanto future tho
[2016-06-13 13:06:35] lockhedge : chromaticcr1: November 2015
[2016-06-13 13:07:46] Mr Blue : £499 we're about to brake the £500 mark, go go Bitcoin !
[2016-06-13 13:09:16] jesperf : braking is bad
[2016-06-13 13:09:26] jesperf : there's no brake on this train
[2016-06-13 13:10:50] aethlios : I am calling a sell off and retrace to 520, get ready.
[2016-06-13 13:11:31] 3aum : how long does it take for withdrawals to hit the blockchain
[2016-06-13 13:11:54] Mr Blue : jesperf: haha wait up I'll board with you lol
[2016-06-13 13:12:04] jesperf : 3aum: come on, be patient. it says clearly that all withdrawals are processed manually
[2016-06-13 13:12:28] 3aum : sorry, i was just curious
[2016-06-13 13:12:41] jesperf : 3aum: they usually show up within the hour :)
[2016-06-13 13:13:06] 3aum : thanks
[2016-06-13 13:13:06] Yumi : I just make sure I dont have profits so I dont need to wait forever for withdrawal
[2016-06-13 13:13:07] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-06-13 13:13:11] rapidtrades : fellas
[2016-06-13 13:13:36] jesperf : rapidtrades: don't forget the gals now
[2016-06-13 13:13:49] haxmb : aethlios: -$180 ? :O
[2016-06-13 13:13:53] rapidtrades : mark is not a gal, that's offensive
[2016-06-13 13:14:16] Yumi : you saying its offensive is offensive
[2016-06-13 13:14:31] rapidtrades : STOP TRIGGERING ME
[2016-06-13 13:14:45] Bacon futures trader : Finex needs to get below 695
[2016-06-13 13:14:56] aethlios : haxmb: yes, but it is not a prediction to trade on it, just my experience with btc.
[2016-06-13 13:15:26] BitMEX_Wally : Withdrawals are being broadcast now
[2016-06-13 13:15:30] rapidtrades : if we hit 520 bubbles prolly done
[2016-06-13 13:16:13] aethlios : previous pump 220>500, retraced to 300. Now 430>710 retrace to 520. a low fib retrace.
[2016-06-13 13:16:46] rapidtrades : that pump happened in 3 days tho, that's why it crashed
[2016-06-13 13:16:52] jesperf : I can see my withdrawal now
[2016-06-13 13:16:58] Yumi : moon time, $1K easy, maybe new ATH
[2016-06-13 13:17:10] Mr Blue : that is one dirty mouth you got their man, I'm hoping we stay 700+ an moon lol
[2016-06-13 13:17:41] rapidtrades : there's no staying here...its up or down
[2016-06-13 13:18:03] rapidtrades : we're in parabolic mode now
[2016-06-13 13:18:54] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hi wally, maybe you could place a color to the order book for the orders that are liquidations, so we now which are.
[2016-06-13 13:19:16] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: ye if we pass 745 will moon today for sure
[2016-06-13 13:19:18] Yumi : why nobody points out how there is no liquidity in the order book
[2016-06-13 13:19:30] jesperf : anyone sold using paypal on localbitcoins? i know it's not completely safe but the guys with 1000+ positive ratings should be pretty ok, right?
[2016-06-13 13:19:51] rapidtrades : i wouldn't do it
[2016-06-13 13:19:59] kogroken : unless they rated themselves
[2016-06-13 13:20:08] Bacon futures trader : Why not use coinbase or finex?
[2016-06-13 13:20:22] Mr Blue : jesperf: I wouldn't do it, use circle.com its free to deposit fiat to your bank
[2016-06-13 13:20:25] kogroken : I guess localbitcoins has quite a high premium
[2016-06-13 13:20:43] rapidtrades : kogroken: that's for face to face tho
[2016-06-13 13:20:45] rapidtrades : i think
[2016-06-13 13:20:51] jesperf : I don't want the money in the bank, I want to spend it through paypal
[2016-06-13 13:21:05] rapidtrades : on what
[2016-06-13 13:21:13] Mr Blue : f paypal spend your Bitcoin instead
[2016-06-13 13:21:29] jesperf : vehicular parts
[2016-06-13 13:21:34] Mr Blue : jesperf: what was you looking to buy via paypal?
[2016-06-13 13:22:07] rapidtrades : jesperf: yea that's gonna be tough to buy with bTc
[2016-06-13 13:22:17] markimarki : 700 on bitfinex
[2016-06-13 13:22:21] Mr Blue : jesperf: have you searched for a bitcoin merchant?
[2016-06-13 13:22:28] rapidtrades : its not on ebay or amazon? @jesperf
[2016-06-13 13:22:29] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: how is it possible that there is currently no DPE estimated?
[2016-06-13 13:22:47] jesperf : could be on ebay
[2016-06-13 13:23:00] rapidtrades : buy ebay gift card with btc
[2016-06-13 13:23:09] jesperf : can i do that without a us ebay account?
[2016-06-13 13:23:31] jesperf : i'll investigate it though, thanks
[2016-06-13 13:23:41] rapidtrades : i don't know....u should check
[2016-06-13 13:23:44] ayy_lmao : who keeps moving the 240k order
[2016-06-13 13:24:20] Bacon futures trader : volume incoming
[2016-06-13 13:27:32] lockhedge : jesperf: you can top up your paypal account with bitwala https://bitwa.la/bitcoin-paypal
[2016-06-13 13:27:55] jesperf : "Bitcoin to PayPal is currently disabled. " :P
[2016-06-13 13:28:37] lockhedge : jesperf: oh sorry, just googled the link without opening it ^^
[2016-06-13 13:28:46] jesperf : but I'm guessing it's temporary because of the action going on right now
[2016-06-13 13:28:52] jesperf : but thanks, didn't know about it!
[2016-06-13 13:32:40] elmorte : jesperf: how much you selling for?
[2016-06-13 13:35:13] jesperf : elmorte: just 2 btc at current spot
[2016-06-13 13:35:41] Bacon futures trader : spot = XTB perpetual swap?
[2016-06-13 13:36:06] jesperf : no, market spot price
[2016-06-13 13:36:30] jesperf : around $700, a few dollars more or less is not important
[2016-06-13 13:37:59] rapidtrades : bullpark 700 amirite
[2016-06-13 13:39:04] BitMEX_Sam : Morning traders
[2016-06-13 13:39:39] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: morning mate
[2016-06-13 13:39:51] BTCDJS : afternoon
[2016-06-13 13:40:30] BitMEX_Sam : Indeed
[2016-06-13 13:40:33] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: Morning. You a Monday person?
[2016-06-13 13:40:40] BitMEX_Sam : Have to be :)
[2016-06-13 13:40:59] rapidtrades : stuck at the old J.O.B?
[2016-06-13 13:41:08] BTCDJS : we are definitely flogging a dead horse here
[2016-06-13 13:41:12] elmorte : Being adult sucks
[2016-06-13 13:41:14] BitMEX_Sam : Work's a grind, and then you die
[2016-06-13 13:41:22] elmorte : preach
[2016-06-13 13:41:41] BitMEX_Sam : Surprised to see yet another huge local high
[2016-06-13 13:41:51] BitMEX_Sam : China won't quit
[2016-06-13 13:41:59] jesperf : http://i.imgur.com/Z6RNdzd.jpg
[2016-06-13 13:42:05] rapidtrades : can't stop won't stop
[2016-06-13 13:42:09] rapidtrades : china
[2016-06-13 13:42:18] elmorte : jesperf: lol....brb vacuuming
[2016-06-13 13:42:29] rapidtrades : they will do to bitcoin what they do to their lungs
[2016-06-13 13:42:34] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Just got a new vacuum myself, I'm excited and not at all ashamed by that excitement
[2016-06-13 13:42:51] jesperf : middle bottom was me yesterday, watching my liquidation price
[2016-06-13 13:42:52] jesperf : :D
[2016-06-13 13:42:54] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: u should be very ashamed by that
[2016-06-13 13:43:03] BitMEX_Sam : I refuse
[2016-06-13 13:43:27] Yumi : I wasnt watching, did the wall above liq got sold into?
[2016-06-13 13:43:35] rapidtrades : pulled
[2016-06-13 13:44:03] elmorte : My friend got a fancy dyson one....you could do pullups on the ceiling with that thing
[2016-06-13 13:44:49] jesperf : i want a diesel powered vacuum cleaner
[2016-06-13 13:44:51] BTCDJS : this think is going to move when i have to pick the kid up from school isn't it? By Gog I think it bloody will and all
[2016-06-13 13:45:00] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, my opinion is that those things are 90% fancy plastic, 10% worthwhile technology
[2016-06-13 13:45:01] messiaen8844 : ETH slowly pushing up
[2016-06-13 13:45:05] messiaen8844 : now if BTC retraces...
[2016-06-13 13:45:30] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: why would u mentioned that shitcoin
[2016-06-13 13:45:46] rapidtrades : i ALMOST forgot it existed
[2016-06-13 13:45:46] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: it was also ~ US$450
[2016-06-13 13:45:59] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: You could almost buy a bitcoin with that money.
[2016-06-13 13:46:08] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: because it moves inversely to BTC?
[2016-06-13 13:46:12] messiaen8844 : yep rapid, best buys happen when people 'forget it'
[2016-06-13 13:46:26] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: if u so say
[2016-06-13 13:46:38] messiaen8844 : remember when BTC was dead?
[2016-06-13 13:46:49] elmorte : messiaen8844: yeah, like it was yesterday
[2016-06-13 13:47:30] messiaen8844 : or when ETH was a shitcoin with a broken foundation with no money for devs ?
[2016-06-13 13:47:43] rapidtrades : still is
[2016-06-13 13:47:48] elmorte : Ok, that one was a while ago
[2016-06-13 13:48:23] messiaen8844 : could be rapid, but people are still putting USD into it
[2016-06-13 13:51:03] rapidtrades : the more we go up, the more i want it to continue to go up
[2016-06-13 13:52:38] elmorte : rapidtrades: that's how a bubble works no?
[2016-06-13 13:53:29] messiaen8844 : I took pretty much all my profits at 650-680, not interesting in joining this until pullback comes, at least not on leverage
[2016-06-13 13:53:46] messiaen8844 : it feels like a trap
[2016-06-13 13:53:58] rapidtrades : weak hand :)
[2016-06-13 13:54:18] rapidtrades : u just dropped ur moon ticket
[2016-06-13 13:54:43] rapidtrades : or sold, that would be more appropriate
[2016-06-13 13:54:53] messiaen8844 : no, my stash will appreciate, it's not in fiat
[2016-06-13 13:55:00] rapidtrades : ah cool
[2016-06-13 13:55:19] laisee : the moon's a balloon ...
[2016-06-13 13:55:36] BTCDJS : relentless
[2016-06-13 13:55:43] elmorte : laisee: obligatory daily line :)
[2016-06-13 13:56:01] BTCDJS : elmorte: Like the R in my name right?
[2016-06-13 13:56:09] rapidtrades : did that LIQ fill
[2016-06-13 13:56:14] elmorte : You bet.
[2016-06-13 13:56:26] laisee : elmorte: can only afford one per day
[2016-06-13 13:56:33] rapidtrades : now there's another one, 200k at 709
[2016-06-13 13:56:47] elmorte : Hehehe...economy ain't what it used to be @laisee
[2016-06-13 13:57:05] elmorte : I thought you get like a sign on bonus or something @laisee
[2016-06-13 13:57:28] laisee : 10 free posts when you get liquidated
[2016-06-13 13:57:35] elmorte : 712 also there rapid
[2016-06-13 13:58:07] rapidtrades : elmorte: nope not a liq
[2016-06-13 13:58:24] Bitcoingirl : swap will converge to spot
[2016-06-13 13:58:29] Bitcoingirl : easy short
[2016-06-13 13:58:39] Bacon futures trader : This either is absorption or someone is dumping hard
[2016-06-13 13:59:05] rapidtrades : china's sleeping
[2016-06-13 14:00:01] laisee : its only 10pm
[2016-06-13 14:00:56] kogroken : laisee: When you spike to it, it will pop?
[2016-06-13 14:01:30] laisee : it may get pricked and explode, yes
[2016-06-13 14:02:18] BTCDJS : Wasn't the chinese banks only opening tomorrow? tue rather than mon?
[2016-06-13 14:03:01] elmorte : They were working today
[2016-06-13 14:03:06] rapidtrades : i don't know
[2016-06-13 14:03:24] elmorte : Plus interbank deposits work even during public holidays...
[2016-06-13 14:03:45] elmorte : So if you have an account in the same bank as the exchange, you shouldn't have an issue
[2016-06-13 14:04:13] rapidtrades : dam that's some high level shit
[2016-06-13 14:04:34] BTCDJS : better than UK banks
[2016-06-13 14:04:51] rapidtrades : but bitfinex said their banks closed until monday
[2016-06-13 14:04:58] laisee : whose buying XBTJ24H @ 77k
[2016-06-13 14:05:00] rapidtrades : taiwan
[2016-06-13 14:05:27] sq : whagt u guys think of the pump
[2016-06-13 14:05:30] sq : over?
[2016-06-13 14:05:45] BTCDJS : thats one thing about bitcoin. No need to wait for banks
[2016-06-13 14:06:05] laisee : sq: Bitcoin is dead, again
[2016-06-13 14:06:28] BTCDJS : sq: pump hasn't even started. This was just foreplay
[2016-06-13 14:06:39] sq : haha cool
[2016-06-13 14:07:33] elmorte : Yeah, finex is in Taiwan :(
[2016-06-13 14:07:44] vbmithr : awesofe place, taiwan
[2016-06-13 14:07:56] vbmithr : I think they were in HK
[2016-06-13 14:08:06] elmorte : Yeah, they switched
[2016-06-13 14:08:11] elmorte : I wish they still were
[2016-06-13 14:08:23] stf28 : pumps can continue as long as new money comes, and it can for long as bitcoin is making new highs more often
[2016-06-13 14:08:32] laisee : operations in HK, banking in TW
[2016-06-13 14:09:05] elmorte : stf28: Bernie Madoff stuff
[2016-06-13 14:09:07] lockhedge : Finex is a registered British Virgin IslandsI company with its principal place of business in HK and a bank in Taiwan
[2016-06-13 14:09:37] elmorte : Just for the record...I was referring to their bank acc since we were talking about banks
[2016-06-13 14:09:52] vbmithr : .XBTUSDPI: premium over kaiko bitmex?
[2016-06-13 14:10:00] rapidtrades : lockhedge: lol
[2016-06-13 14:12:02] BTCDJS : the suspense man. gees just DO IT!
[2016-06-13 14:12:45] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: im starving
[2016-06-13 14:13:56] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I've got to pick my kid up from school soon. Going to have a cup of tea and not look at the computer.
[2016-06-13 14:14:38] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: does mex have its bank account in HK or somewhere else? I heard its pretty hard for btc-companies to get bank accounts in HK
[2016-06-13 14:14:51] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: that's when they get u, when ur not looking