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[2016-06-13 04:03:40] j8 : the "cost" is the margin requirement at max leverage, look at the Position Value in XBT
[2016-06-13 04:05:43] Mr Blue : j8: so if cross made me leverage and it cost me 0.1 btc that means I only stand to lose 0.1 BTC if liquidated?
[2016-06-13 04:06:27] Yumi : BitMEX_Sam: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBJ24H says Each contract is worth 1e-7 XBT per 1 JPY price
[2016-06-13 04:06:45] j8 : no, the other options 1x, to 100x isolate your margin like that. cross will put your whole balance at risk
[2016-06-13 04:07:32] j8 : but, if you buy less than 1x it's mathematically impossible to lose your whole balance.
[2016-06-13 04:07:52] Mr Blue : j8: I see thanks for the info on that mate, hopefully we won't see a dump till next yen spot report, I'm correct in thinking its updated every 24h with that asset??
[2016-06-13 04:09:05] Yumi : Mr Blue: its being continuously marked
[2016-06-13 04:09:51] Mr Blue : Yumi: sh** lol was waiting for todays Bitcoin gains to be added
[2016-06-13 04:10:11] Yumi : it also expires daily
[2016-06-13 04:10:16] micmix : j8: how long have you been on naps instead of solid 6+ hours of sleep? I find that it greatly affects my productivity when I do that for more than a few days in a row
[2016-06-13 04:10:16] Yumi : in 8 hours from now
[2016-06-13 04:10:17] Mr Blue : never mind, I'm still bullish the yen will drop in value against the Bitcoin
[2016-06-13 04:11:53] Yumi : the 1 contract spammers -.-
[2016-06-13 04:12:36] j8 : micmix: since $584 or so
[2016-06-13 04:13:29] micmix : j8: nice, that's how you measure time in bitcoin land :wink:
[2016-06-13 04:14:02] j8 : actually, that might have been my last nap :O
[2016-06-13 04:14:27] j8 : and yes i'm getting delusional
[2016-06-13 04:14:41] j8 : time to stop
[2016-06-13 04:15:07] micmix : I had alarm on okc pump bot but I had to disable it bc they were turning it on and off all weekend
[2016-06-13 04:15:18] Yumi : thats the thing about btc market, it never stops
[2016-06-13 04:16:03] j8 : the amazing thing is i basically took all of last week off trading and nothing happened
[2016-06-13 04:16:05] Mr Blue : okay guys riddle me this, If I paid 72667 for 751 contacts and sold 751 contacts at 72747 how can I of lost 0.02 BTC instead of gaining profit??
[2016-06-13 04:16:44] Yumi : I guess fees
[2016-06-13 04:16:50] micmix : it's 0.11% gain, fees are higher
[2016-06-13 04:17:25] micmix : you probably paid 0.075% taker fee twice
[2016-06-13 04:18:05] micmix : if you take both times you need at least 0.15% price difference
[2016-06-13 04:18:14] Mr Blue : okay no poroblem guys I wanted out of that cross situation anyways
[2016-06-13 04:18:30] Yumi : easy riddles today Mr Blue
[2016-06-13 04:18:50] zanza : 1.25% interest wow
[2016-06-13 04:18:58] Mr Blue : Yumi: try find you a better one later mate ;-)
[2016-06-13 04:19:31] mikeh : did you sell at market?
[2016-06-13 04:20:28] Mr Blue : mikeh: ye
[2016-06-13 04:20:28] mikeh : seems they pay you to use limit orders if the fee page is right
[2016-06-13 04:20:52] Yumi : I remember someone saying in chat that they log in and all positions gone and account empty, it turned out they logged wrong account
[2016-06-13 04:21:23] Mr Blue : mikeh: ye smaller fee
[2016-06-13 04:22:06] Mr Blue : Yumi: lol that's funny, I was going to ask if more than one account is allowed here, incase I want to play both sides, if not will just have to be okc
[2016-06-13 04:22:15] micmix : I'll have to adjust my algo to account for those wild swings from premium to discount
[2016-06-13 04:22:37] zanza : mr blue you can just use isolation position
[2016-06-13 04:22:42] zanza : its the same as having 2 accounts
[2016-06-13 04:23:14] Yumi : I think he wants to be long X contracts on one account and short Y contracts same time
[2016-06-13 04:23:17] Mr Blue : zanza: nice, I'll look in to that one mate, showing my noob colours here lol
[2016-06-13 04:23:31] Mr Blue : Yumi: ye that's what I wanted
[2016-06-13 04:23:41] Yumi : but it doesnt make sense when you think about it
[2016-06-13 04:24:03] zanza : yeah no reason to lol
[2016-06-13 04:24:04] Mr Blue : Yumi: maybe 1 BTC x35 long one account other short x35
[2016-06-13 04:25:07] Mr Blue : or short x10 even
[2016-06-13 04:25:08] Yumi : anyway I believe as long you arent trading with yourself multiple accounts arent problem
[2016-06-13 04:25:26] Yumi : but if you wash trade, probably ban
[2016-06-13 04:25:35] micmix : Mr Blue: it's easier to manage with two account but in reality it doesn't make sense. you're paying double fees
[2016-06-13 04:26:55] Mr Blue : Yumi: cool, I'll ask admin at some point just incase as I probably could trade against my self if the mood took me lol
[2016-06-13 04:27:11] Yumi : yes best open ticket
[2016-06-13 04:27:23] Yumi : you will get official answer
[2016-06-13 04:29:20] Yumi : but think about if you really need 2 accs, it doesnt really make sense to be both short and long same time
[2016-06-13 04:29:23] Mr Blue : micmix: yes but it limits my risk + would be fee's in any event, if not I can use another leverage exchange for shorting at same time as long, its not really a problem, but Id like two accounts here lol
[2016-06-13 04:31:25] Mr Blue : Yumi: it does if I hold and end up profiting on both or mitigating loss on one, something I've been thinking about, but ye I'll probably fail at it lol
[2016-06-13 04:31:37] micmix : Mr Blue: if you're both short and long at the same time on the same contract, it's same as being net long/short the difference. you can add/remove margin manually as you want and manage your risk
[2016-06-13 04:32:10] micmix : different contracts or different exchanges I can understand
[2016-06-13 04:33:31] micmix : but it's up to you of course, whatever makes it easier
[2016-06-13 04:34:28] BitMEX_Wally : You can have 2 accounts if you like, but there is no point being long and short the same contract at once. You just end up paying more fees and having more DPE exposure, when you can achieve the same net PNL by just reducing your existing position
[2016-06-13 04:34:36] Mr Blue : micmix: so I can go long and short at the same time with XBT/USD ? not seen the option yet, as if I'm short and I buy it just lowers my short or takes me in the +
[2016-06-13 04:35:41] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: okay thanks for the info mate, I might not make another account was just an idea, but nice to know its allowed
[2016-06-13 04:42:18] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: if i made a second account i could realize a bunch of profit and still keep my positions, and get half the profit unlocked without waiting until friday... is that legit?
[2016-06-13 04:42:57] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: it would be a treat if the people that refer users also get 10% discount on trading fee's lol
[2016-06-13 04:43:18] Mr Blue : j8: now now mate he already said it's allowed lol
[2016-06-13 04:44:08] Mr Blue : j8: besides you prob already have 3 accounts ;-)
[2016-06-13 04:44:09] j8 : just making sure, it sounds like there are some things you're not supposed to do with multiple accounts
[2016-06-13 04:44:23] j8 : i don't actually. just this one and one for testnet
[2016-06-13 04:44:52] Mr Blue : j8: well that's not the j5 I used to know if your the same person lol
[2016-06-13 04:45:01] j8 : lol
[2016-06-13 04:45:15] j8 : j5? imposter
[2016-06-13 04:45:21] Mr Blue : lmao
[2016-06-13 04:46:02] j8 : no secretly i'm also rapidtrades, and sleger. its a brutal case of multiple personality disorder.
[2016-06-13 04:46:17] Yumi : lol
[2016-06-13 04:46:54] Mr Blue : j8: :-)
[2016-06-13 04:47:03] Yumi : j8: I think its obvious you are not allowed to trade against yourself
[2016-06-13 04:47:07] Mr Blue : brb guys 420 time, happy trading
[2016-06-13 04:48:05] j8 : seems like the sort of thing there would be a rule against. you could do a lot of manipulation that way
[2016-06-13 04:50:00] Yumi : you can see a lot of wash trading on okc when they trade thousands of btc back and forth at same price
[2016-06-13 04:51:49] j8 : i just want to unlock some margin, it sucks to have to close a good position because your account is mostly withheld profit and rebalance is 5 days away
[2016-06-13 04:52:07] Yumi : well I know the pain
[2016-06-13 04:53:32] micmix : j8: well two accounts can help, you can sell part of your position to another account and get some realized PNL unlocked
[2016-06-13 04:54:05] j8 : that's what i was thinking, just don't want to be accused of being a wash trading market manipulator
[2016-06-13 04:54:10] Yumi : thats what he said he was thinking about
[2016-06-13 04:54:23] micmix : oh sorry, didn't see that.
[2016-06-13 04:55:01] micmix : aren't we all wash trading market manipulators just selling the same coins to each other? :wink:
[2016-06-13 04:55:53] j8 : no kidding. i trade bitcoin. what do you trade them for? mostly other bitcoins
[2016-06-13 04:56:25] Yumi : seems 1.1250% funding per 8 hrs is not enough
[2016-06-13 04:56:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 698.37
[2016-06-13 04:57:05] j8 : look at that liquidation at the front of the book, its a beautiful thing
[2016-06-13 04:57:20] Mr Blue : wash trading is like when I used to give ORB 20 BTC of daily volume when was just buying and selling to my self, to make market look more active, if that's illegal I don't give a F
[2016-06-13 04:58:29] Mr Blue : most the big exchanges wash loads daily in my opinion to make them self look more active
[2016-06-13 05:01:51] sizzurp : how do i het charts
[2016-06-13 05:01:58] sizzurp : get
[2016-06-13 05:03:23] Yumi : isnt there a chart on your screen?
[2016-06-13 05:03:54] sizzurp : it just showed up
[2016-06-13 05:04:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 14000 @ 699.72
[2016-06-13 05:04:02] sizzurp : thx nig presh
[2016-06-13 05:04:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 @ 700.14
[2016-06-13 05:04:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 18433 @ 700.64
[2016-06-13 05:05:04] sizzurp : how long do deposits take on this site
[2016-06-13 05:05:14] Yumi : 1 confirmation
[2016-06-13 05:05:27] sizzurp : swet
[2016-06-13 05:05:29] Mr Blue : sizzurp: I find this one great for early warning about direction http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ green candals on most I'm all good, red starts to show its going down lol
[2016-06-13 05:06:29] sizzurp : i like that
[2016-06-13 05:06:31] sizzurp : thx
[2016-06-13 05:07:02] Mr Blue : np
[2016-06-13 05:09:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 697.58
[2016-06-13 05:09:52] sizzurp : you short or long rn
[2016-06-13 05:10:09] Mr Blue : how did somebody possibly get liquidated on a long? guess they was doing x50
[2016-06-13 05:10:57] Mr Blue : sizzurp: at the moment I'm not in position though I wish I had been lol, if I was to say I'd tell you to go long at x10
[2016-06-13 05:11:08] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: have we reached the absolute cap on funding?
[2016-06-13 05:11:24] Yumi : bitmex taking taking a page out of okcoin book liquidating shorts and longs same time
[2016-06-13 05:11:32] sizzurp : whatchu waitin for
[2016-06-13 05:11:39] Mr Blue : sizzurp: take profits at $11 extra on each Bitcoin
[2016-06-13 05:12:07] sizzurp : bet
[2016-06-13 05:12:52] Yumi : elmorte: its a cap, yes but who can guarantee it wont be change.. ;)
[2016-06-13 05:13:14] sizzurp : charts have froze
[2016-06-13 05:13:18] Mr Blue : sizzurp: hmmm not sure tbh I always like to get in on a dip, but as I see us going $800 within the next two weeks, maybe I should jump in lol
[2016-06-13 05:14:11] sizzurp : the time is now for everything
[2016-06-13 05:14:24] Mr Blue : sizzurp: but please don't trade on my advice, go with your own gut sir
[2016-06-13 05:14:35] Mr Blue : sizzurp: +1
[2016-06-13 05:14:44] sizzurp : LMAO
[2016-06-13 05:15:00] Yumi : btw who noticed they changed cap from 1.125% daily to 1.125% per 8 hours
[2016-06-13 05:15:51] Mr Blue : sizzurp: most the exchanges are at 685, to me that says wait for a dip, but it's not been working so far today lol
[2016-06-13 05:16:01] Yumi : cap stayed same but somehow you pay more, magic ^^
[2016-06-13 05:16:45] sizzurp : why do closes pend how long does that take
[2016-06-13 05:17:12] sizzurp : Mr Blue: you tha man with the plan
[2016-06-13 05:18:56] Mr Blue : sizzurp: I think it depends on the contract, Bitcoin perpetual swap doesn't close, the Yen market is every 24h or something
[2016-06-13 05:19:13] Mr Blue : sizzurp: I try lol
[2016-06-13 05:20:06] sizzurp : so you cant close an active order without canceling it?
[2016-06-13 05:20:33] Yumi : sizzurp: what do you mean?
[2016-06-13 05:20:35] sizzurp : nvm i got it
[2016-06-13 05:20:38] Mr Blue : sizzurp: yes you just sell to the market or add a limit order
[2016-06-13 05:20:46] sizzurp : it just took a min to register
[2016-06-13 05:21:30] sizzurp : hopefully i wont slump waitin for this dip
[2016-06-13 05:21:53] Yumi : the exchange is very fast, if interface is lagging for you maybe try different internet browser
[2016-06-13 05:24:42] sizzurp : im in the us and have to use vpn to trade here
[2016-06-13 05:24:54] Yumi : well shh about that then
[2016-06-13 05:25:24] Mr Blue : sizzurp: guessing your in the big apple lol, shhhhhh
[2016-06-13 05:25:30] Yumi : Im sure you misspoke and meant you are in uk
[2016-06-13 05:26:00] sizzurp : exactly but off the books sunshine state not NY
[2016-06-13 05:26:06] sizzurp : LOL
[2016-06-13 05:26:31] Mr Blue : sizzurp: then why you hiding? exchange would only kick out new yorkers
[2016-06-13 05:26:50] sizzurp : huh
[2016-06-13 05:26:55] Mr Blue : if they didn't pay the fee to new york state at least lol
[2016-06-13 05:26:59] sizzurp : \\o
[2016-06-13 05:27:01] sizzurp : o//
[2016-06-13 05:27:06] sizzurp : \o/
[2016-06-13 05:27:11] Yumi : no, you arent allowed to open account if you are from anywhere in US
[2016-06-13 05:27:17] sizzurp : party i guess
[2016-06-13 05:27:34] Mr Blue : Yumi: why not?? seems very limiting to the exchange
[2016-06-13 05:27:35] sizzurp : welp
[2016-06-13 05:27:54] sizzurp : eth been moving nicely lately
[2016-06-13 05:29:36] Yumi : because they dont wanna deal with US regulators crap that think that they have jurisdiction over whole world
[2016-06-13 05:29:57] Mr Blue : we're not even trading fiat here seems silly, I'd be interested to know the company reason for locking out all them possible customers.
[2016-06-13 05:30:55] Yumi : well they cant comment on that
[2016-06-13 05:32:59] Yumi : big hidden order at 697
[2016-06-13 05:33:39] Mr Blue : Yumi: possibly, but If I was the owner I'd think f American rules, and deal with that side after the customers are already here, its the internet if your not a US company, why should you vet your customers based on a US policy
[2016-06-13 05:34:35] Yumi : I dont think you bullshit US does
[2016-06-13 05:36:37] Yumi : lets say you arent US citizen, you never even been to US, they ask another country to arrest you and extradite you to US because you allegedly broke some US law
[2016-06-13 05:37:19] Mr Blue : Yumi: ye well your country shouldn't roll over like a dog, if they do move lol
[2016-06-13 05:37:25] sizzurp : Yumi: big hidden order?
[2016-06-13 05:37:57] Yumi : yea you see buys at 697 and its not shown
[2016-06-13 05:38:04] ScottJ : didn't know there were hidden orders...
[2016-06-13 05:38:39] sizzurp : whats this mean
[2016-06-13 05:38:43] Yumi : in order options there is "post-only" and "hidden"
[2016-06-13 05:38:57] Yumi : means its not being shown in order book
[2016-06-13 05:40:12] sizzurp : is that bad
[2016-06-13 05:40:15] Yumi : the 1528 MM bot kept buying up that order
[2016-06-13 05:40:47] Yumi : its usual feature on exchanges
[2016-06-13 05:40:49] Yumi : nothing shady
[2016-06-13 05:41:41] Yumi : if you do hidden order you have to pay taker fee
[2016-06-13 05:42:51] Yumi : you see MM bot keep buying it
[2016-06-13 05:43:22] Yumi : bot is earning maker fee and hidden order pays taker fee
[2016-06-13 05:43:54] Mr Blue : The UK didn't even hand over the NASA hacker/cracker to the US, so don't see why they'd had over a company owner that just allows people to swap tokens lol, but guess it's different in each country, and ye if the global elites come after you it's a different story, but small case? I don't see it, not with the amount of exchanges already doing it.. anyways I rant too much lol
[2016-06-13 05:48:52] Mr Blue : also the same could be said about any country, they all have rules lol, just the US thinks it runs the world/internet, that's why we need to merge the blockchain with the TOR browser, give people reward for hosting nodes as that's where TOR failed, so a new version that gives Bitcoin reward, or tokens that can be used to unlock domain names or sold for BTC to people that want a domain, but arn't hosting a node to get reward on dare I say the FreeNet or Skynet, because we can't allow them to call it the darknet
[2016-06-13 05:51:27] rapidtrades : THIS IS SPARTTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-06-13 05:51:34] Yumi : idd
[2016-06-13 05:51:47] Mr Blue : or keep buying domains off ICANN, when they was once free lol
[2016-06-13 05:52:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 2975 @ 719.47
[2016-06-13 05:53:17] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: lol you had some good trades today mate
[2016-06-13 05:55:02] rapidtrades : 1.12% in 6 hrs...sweet
[2016-06-13 05:55:44] Yumi : well we are making new highs so I guess longs dont mind
[2016-06-13 05:55:52] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: 1.12% profit per BTC position? grats mate
[2016-06-13 05:56:05] Yumi : he means funding
[2016-06-13 05:56:08] ayy_lmao : l o l
[2016-06-13 05:56:14] Mr Blue : ahh taking piss lol
[2016-06-13 05:56:30] rapidtrades : not rly...im short the swap
[2016-06-13 05:57:53] sabbybibi : REKT: how do you tell when it's a liquidated short? are you just guessing or is there some definite indicator i'm not seeing?
[2016-06-13 05:58:14] rekt101 : REKT just knows @sabbybibi
[2016-06-13 05:58:16] rapidtrades : sabbybibi: he's been banned for chatting
[2016-06-13 05:58:26] rapidtrades : from chat*
[2016-06-13 05:59:23] rapidtrades : do we have any idea what % will be after rebalance
[2016-06-13 05:59:35] rapidtrades : 1.1% again?
[2016-06-13 05:59:50] rapidtrades : premium stayed fairly constant right
[2016-06-13 06:00:10] rapidtrades : plus interest rates
[2016-06-13 06:00:10] Yumi : maybe less unless we pump now and premium rises
[2016-06-13 06:00:32] Yumi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-13 06:01:24] zanza : rekt bot is banned?
[2016-06-13 06:02:00] rapidtrades : yeah he was being an ahole earlier
[2016-06-13 06:02:11] zanza : isn;'t it just a bot?
[2016-06-13 06:02:57] Yumi : implying bots cant be aholes
[2016-06-13 06:03:11] Mr Blue : no idea how spot price has gone so crazy, exchanges are under it, maybe it can see the future lol
[2016-06-13 06:03:39] Yumi : Mr Blue: you mean mark price or index price?
[2016-06-13 06:04:00] Mr Blue : finex 592 Bitstamp 585 no idea how that gets 696 spot lol
[2016-06-13 06:04:18] Mr Blue : sorry 692 and 685
[2016-06-13 06:04:52] Yumi : okc is at 709
[2016-06-13 06:05:07] Mr Blue : clearly tempting shorters to do what they do best and short lol, so ye I think % will go down
[2016-06-13 06:05:17] BitMEX_Wally : http://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-13 06:06:03] rapidtrades : REKT got banned for expressing semitic statements earlier
[2016-06-13 06:06:20] Yumi : BitMEX_Wally: how come funding rate cap went stealthy from 1.125% per day to 1.125% per 8 hours?
[2016-06-13 06:06:25] rapidtrades : sad he stooped that low but hey its rekt...we know him
[2016-06-13 06:06:36] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: on ETHXBT, has the weekly rebalancing been eliminated?
[2016-06-13 06:07:40] Mr Blue : Yumi: ye sorry didn't factor that one in, makes sense now
[2016-06-13 06:08:32] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: thanks wally, I trust you guys just looked wierd, and I bet at least some others was thinking the same lol
[2016-06-13 06:08:40] elmorte : rapidtrades: even bots lose their cool
[2016-06-13 06:09:00] elmorte : maybe @micmix turned off the a/c
[2016-06-13 06:09:40] Mr Blue : damn okc, how dare they race ahead before I buy in lol
[2016-06-13 06:10:07] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: can the abs funding cap be found anywhere in the docs? I've only seen it in the chat archive
[2016-06-13 06:10:18] sabbybibi : BitMEX_Wally: hmmmm curiouser and curiouser... that kaiko price page has a price (713) above everything, even above okcoin!
[2016-06-13 06:10:36] sabbybibi : (but their explanation page says "we take a weighted average" hahaha)
[2016-06-13 06:11:02] Yumi : elmorte: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-06-13 06:11:11] Mr Blue : sabbybibi: haha maybe they add localbitcoins or circle
[2016-06-13 06:11:15] Yumi : "The Funding Rate is capped at 75% of the Initial Margin - Maintenance Margin. If the Initial Margin is 2% and the Maintenance Margin is 1%, the maximum daily Funding Rate is 0.75%. The Funding Rate may not change by more than 75% of the Maintenance Margin between periods. In this example, the Funding Rate cannot go up or down between periods by more than 0.75%."
[2016-06-13 06:12:01] rapidtrades : LIQ is now at 665
[2016-06-13 06:12:11] rapidtrades : all 700k of it
[2016-06-13 06:12:21] sabbybibi : (i typed o k c o i n and it came out as "the woodchipper" - i obvs have a lot to learn about how this chat interface works)
[2016-06-13 06:12:42] sabbybibi : o k c o i n okcoin o k c o i n okcoin o k c o i n
[2016-06-13 06:12:48] elmorte : Yumi: Thanks mate
[2016-06-13 06:12:50] sabbybibi : yep it happens every time!
[2016-06-13 06:12:59] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 11920 @ 862.37
[2016-06-13 06:13:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2895 @ 708.37
[2016-06-13 06:13:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 48624 @ 708.69 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-13 06:13:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2200 @ 708.52
[2016-06-13 06:13:08] Yumi : sabbybibi: thats for funzies
[2016-06-13 06:13:08] Mr Blue : sabbybibi: they love to chip wood over at that place lol
[2016-06-13 06:13:12] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-06-13 06:13:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 26800 @ 711.36 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-13 06:13:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2470 @ 708.98
[2016-06-13 06:13:19] elmorte : [2016-06-13 06:12:42] sabbybibi : o k c o i n okcoin o k c o i n okcoin o k c o i n
[2016-06-13 06:13:24] elmorte : Looks fine to me @sabbybibi
[2016-06-13 06:14:05] elmorte : lol...that was stupid to assume c/p from the archive would avoid the censor
[2016-06-13 06:14:20] Yumi : lol ^^ :)
[2016-06-13 06:14:31] elmorte : _facepalm_
[2016-06-13 06:16:24] Mr Blue : and this is why I shouldn't wait for a dip when market is pumping lol faceslap to my self
[2016-06-13 06:16:40] rapidtrades : will this okc/fine gap never close? $20 now
[2016-06-13 06:16:44] aethlios : 1h 6 minutes for a block
[2016-06-13 06:17:39] Yumi : rapidtrades: another rhetorical question will this LIQ ever get filled
[2016-06-13 06:18:24] rapidtrades : arbers should hve monies now. on finex...fill tht shit
[2016-06-13 06:18:33] Yumi : Mr Blue: there is dip
[2016-06-13 06:18:39] sabbybibi : elmorte: (no i mean i type o k c o i n without the spaces and it, uh, gets woodchipped)
[2016-06-13 06:18:52] sabbybibi : (typing it with spaces is just to be able to talk meta)
[2016-06-13 06:18:59] Yumi : sabbybibi: its made for fun
[2016-06-13 06:19:03] sizzurp : buy??;
[2016-06-13 06:19:08] sq : meltdown
[2016-06-13 06:19:19] sabbybibi : Yumi: i'll get used to it lol
[2016-06-13 06:19:40] Yumi : sabbybibi: yea you will, as everyone
[2016-06-13 06:19:48] elmorte : sabbybibi: I was joking because when you click on the archive it shows what you actually typed: https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive
[2016-06-13 06:20:12] rapidtrades : nigger
[2016-06-13 06:20:14] elmorte : So I c/p to mess about with you...but ^
[2016-06-13 06:20:39] rapidtrades : ups
[2016-06-13 06:21:07] Mr Blue : sizzurp: i did at 693
[2016-06-13 06:21:31] sizzurp : got at 696 my man
[2016-06-13 06:21:32] sabbybibi : elmorte: oh yeah you're right! so lots of subtle jokes will not make it through to the archive i suppose! oh well :D
[2016-06-13 06:21:45] Mr Blue : Yumi: thanks I'm in on it at 693
[2016-06-13 06:22:20] Mr Blue : sizzurp: buy more if you can, lower your entry
[2016-06-13 06:22:30] aethlios : abandom ship
[2016-06-13 06:22:49] sizzurp : good call
[2016-06-13 06:23:01] Mr Blue : still showing green candals to me
[2016-06-13 06:23:29] sizzurp : lower lower lower pls
[2016-06-13 06:23:41] sizzurp : all this hype makin entries impposable
[2016-06-13 06:23:47] sizzurp : impossible
[2016-06-13 06:23:59] BTCDJS : If you guys don't behave, Im going to stop this market, turn around and go home
[2016-06-13 06:25:47] Mr Blue : this could be last time we see under 700 for some time or it could go to 650, we'll see lol
[2016-06-13 06:26:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 697.39
[2016-06-13 06:26:23] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: or it could be something else
[2016-06-13 06:26:38] aethlios : told you
[2016-06-13 06:26:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1008 @ 694.56
[2016-06-13 06:26:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 694.40
[2016-06-13 06:26:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 240 @ 693.27
[2016-06-13 06:27:06] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: yep always that one lol
[2016-06-13 06:27:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 194 @ 690.37
[2016-06-13 06:27:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 689.39
[2016-06-13 06:27:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 687.30
[2016-06-13 06:27:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 10 @ 72735.00000
[2016-06-13 06:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100000 @ 682.91 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-13 06:28:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 683.52
[2016-06-13 06:28:31] sizzurp : looks like 650 on the way
[2016-06-13 06:28:38] Mr Blue : i'm cool only on x5 so can't get liquidated untill price drops 586
[2016-06-13 06:28:56] vbmithr : 100K
[2016-06-13 06:28:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 450 @ 681.76
[2016-06-13 06:28:58] vbmithr : oh whow
[2016-06-13 06:29:04] sq : LoL
[2016-06-13 06:29:07] vbmithr : seriously
[2016-06-13 06:29:08] ayy_lmao : damn noobs
[2016-06-13 06:29:14] rapidtrades : calm down plox
[2016-06-13 06:29:14] ayy_lmao : ruining the for the rest of us
[2016-06-13 06:29:17] sq : thats all folks rofl
[2016-06-13 06:29:20] sizzurp : how do you know what price you get liquidated
[2016-06-13 06:29:34] Mr Blue : if that happens I send in more BTC lol
[2016-06-13 06:29:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 72301.00000 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-13 06:29:42] ayy_lmao : liq price on your order?
[2016-06-13 06:29:44] aethlios : sizzurp: liq price on open positions table
[2016-06-13 06:30:02] rapidtrades : PL0X calm down!
[2016-06-13 06:30:18] aethlios : rekt them all and rekt them high!!!
[2016-06-13 06:30:24] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: PL0X?
[2016-06-13 06:30:25] Mr Blue : sizzurp: on the left under sell market
[2016-06-13 06:30:25] ayy_lmao : shoutout to the 673
[2016-06-13 06:30:29] ayy_lmao : for the easy close
[2016-06-13 06:30:53] Yumi : it was liq
[2016-06-13 06:30:59] ayy_lmao : yup
[2016-06-13 06:31:20] Mr Blue : can't believe so many longs got cleaned out Lmao, what was they all doing x50 greedy pigs
[2016-06-13 06:31:41] ayy_lmao : i almost got rekt but switched before the dump
[2016-06-13 06:31:56] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: 50x costs less
[2016-06-13 06:32:53] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: it should do with that high risk lol, but no risk no reward I know
[2016-06-13 06:33:19] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: Yeah not for gamblers
[2016-06-13 06:33:41] Yumi : if the difference from mark price to order book is bigger than maintenance margin its cheaper to just get liquidated
[2016-06-13 06:33:55] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: how many longs were there
[2016-06-13 06:34:34] billz : almost got scared for a second there lol
[2016-06-13 06:35:08] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I only got 1470 contacts, at x5, i'll double down if need be
[2016-06-13 06:36:27] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: if you mean getting Rekt not sure scroll up mate
[2016-06-13 06:37:07] Yumi : there were 2 big hidden orders at 697 and 700
[2016-06-13 06:37:11] Yumi : somebody knew ^^
[2016-06-13 06:37:48] Yumi : MM bot bought lots of it
[2016-06-13 06:38:30] aethlios : this goes below 600.
[2016-06-13 06:40:18] Mr Blue : really guys? don't make me have to send in more funds lol, guess I'll wait no point lowering my entery unless we hit 650
[2016-06-13 06:40:37] aethlios : Mr Blue: you bought the top.
[2016-06-13 06:41:15] Mr Blue : aethlios: nah 693 I'm confident will pass 700 later today
[2016-06-13 06:41:25] Yumi : china dumped less than usd exchanges so premium even increased
[2016-06-13 06:41:48] Yumi : should be other way, right
[2016-06-13 06:43:44] Mr Blue : would of been nice to of shorted the 700, but if last few days have shown me anything, its that shorting doesn't agree with me lol
[2016-06-13 06:45:00] aethlios : last pump to 500 then crashed to 300 in 1 day.
[2016-06-13 06:45:41] Mr Blue : you sound like ggwp reborn from the ashes of defeat lol
[2016-06-13 06:51:10] sizzurp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN7BizdkdPs
[2016-06-13 06:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 71911.00000 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-13 06:54:06] Mr Blue : ahhh damn,, f it sending in more funds,, keep price where it is ladies
[2016-06-13 07:02:21] sizzurp : still waiting on my confirmation
[2016-06-13 07:02:47] Mr Blue : you dirtly girls couldn't of waited 20 mins for me :-(
[2016-06-13 07:03:47] huangyong : 管理员，快出来下，bitcoin/yen（xbj） 是比特币的合约吗？100倍杠杆？这个开多单的话，要手续费吗？
[2016-06-13 07:04:13] Mr Blue : just looking at finex order books, and sell side looks like a ghost town
[2016-06-13 07:04:58] BitMEX_Jinming : huangyong: 是比特币／日元的期货合约
[2016-06-13 07:05:11] Mr Blue : sizzurp: shouldn't be too long mate, 20 mins half hour tops
[2016-06-13 07:05:46] BitMEX_Jinming : huangyong: 最高是100倍杠杆。开多单不需要funding，只是普通的的交易费。
[2016-06-13 07:05:58] Mr Blue : haha nice you keep price under spot till my funds arrive ladies
[2016-06-13 07:06:57] huangyong : BitMEX_Jinming: 这个一天一交割吗？ 我能不能一直持有不交割呢，有办法移仓吗？
[2016-06-13 07:07:39] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: do u understand how much 1.1% is?
[2016-06-13 07:08:11] BitMEX_Jinming : huangyong: 对，它是日交割的合约。目前没有办法移仓。必须手动开第二天的仓位。
[2016-06-13 07:08:16] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: ye it's 1.1% lol
[2016-06-13 07:08:32] Mr Blue : brb guys quick shit lol
[2016-06-13 07:14:23] jesperf : TMI
[2016-06-13 07:14:27] rapidtrades : i'll get a heart attack from all this action and non-sleep
[2016-06-13 07:17:26] Mr Blue : yay my funds just arrived
[2016-06-13 07:17:55] vbmithr : Now we trade below spot
[2016-06-13 07:17:56] vbmithr : interesting
[2016-06-13 07:18:06] rapidtrades : is it rly
[2016-06-13 07:18:49] Yumi : vbmithr: in 5 hours you are gonna get 1.125% of your short
[2016-06-13 07:19:09] vbmithr : nice short term interest :))
[2016-06-13 07:21:20] Mr Blue : jesperf: :-)
[2016-06-13 07:22:14] Mr Blue : anyways got my entry price down from 693 to 688
[2016-06-13 07:22:24] Mr Blue : not that anybody cares lol
[2016-06-13 07:23:48] Mr Blue : woodchipper big buys at 697
[2016-06-13 07:24:25] ayy_lmao : lol @ this mark price
[2016-06-13 07:24:29] ayy_lmao : "Fair price"
[2016-06-13 07:25:23] Mr Blue : ayy_lmao: its fair just a combo of finex, bitstamp, and okc I believe, maybe even coinbase
[2016-06-13 07:25:42] ayy_lmao : none of those are at 694
[2016-06-13 07:25:43] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-13 07:25:53] Mr Blue : okx back at 703
[2016-06-13 07:26:09] ayy_lmao : whats the point of pricing source then
[2016-06-13 07:26:10] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-13 07:26:17] Mr Blue : okc
[2016-06-13 07:27:14] Mr Blue : ayy_lmao: I'm noob here mate, but I'm sure others can give you a better understanding, sometimes things look funny to me, so far I was always wrong lol
[2016-06-13 07:28:16] rapidtrades : cmon arbers do ur thing
[2016-06-13 07:28:20] BTCDJS : too expensive to long then its too expensive to short.
[2016-06-13 07:28:25] Mr Blue : $2 under spot is the worst I've seen it though
[2016-06-13 07:28:26] BTCDJS : whats the point
[2016-06-13 07:28:53] Mr Blue : no point in shorting, we;''re going to brake 700
[2016-06-13 07:29:00] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: oh its gonna get much worse
[2016-06-13 07:29:21] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: oh really?
[2016-06-13 07:29:37] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I hope not lol
[2016-06-13 07:30:45] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: look at finex order book and you tell me http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitfinexUSD.html
[2016-06-13 07:32:33] Mr Blue : market depth
[2016-06-13 07:34:23] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: whats OKcoins market depth
[2016-06-13 07:35:14] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: woodchipper is at 701 at the moment, don't think we need to worry about them
[2016-06-13 07:37:14] Mr Blue : now 702
[2016-06-13 07:37:27] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: I don't know like. Im sitting this one out.
[2016-06-13 07:38:07] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: but ye market depth on woodchipper doesn't look great lol, well you got the last one so it's my turn for profits lol
[2016-06-13 07:38:47] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: this is going to turn around IMO. Be careful
[2016-06-13 07:39:37] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: i think we can reach 800 before any signifigant turn around
[2016-06-13 07:40:20] Mr Blue : but I've been wrong before lol, you just enjoy sitting back and watching ;-)
[2016-06-13 07:41:45] elmorte : Kaiko is at 685....why are we at 691 here??
[2016-06-13 07:42:28] rapidtrades : elmorte: there's a special kaiko for us
[2016-06-13 07:42:28] ayy_lmao : dont ask questions
[2016-06-13 07:42:32] ayy_lmao : just accept it
[2016-06-13 07:42:35] rapidtrades : nice and shiny
[2016-06-13 07:42:47] Mr Blue : elmorte: don't play me like that man I'm long at the moment lol can be 00 for all I care
[2016-06-13 07:43:03] Mr Blue : 700
[2016-06-13 07:43:04] elmorte : Mr Blue: long spot :p
[2016-06-13 07:43:12] rapidtrades : elmorte: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-13 07:43:15] elmorte : Then you don't have to sweat it
[2016-06-13 07:43:29] elmorte : rapidtrades: Thanks....**sigh**
[2016-06-13 07:43:40] Mr Blue : true lol, you short?
[2016-06-13 07:43:58] elmorte : Only here. but fully covered on finex
[2016-06-13 07:44:18] elmorte : I wanna close it but it's impossible with bitmex kaiko at such a premium
[2016-06-13 07:44:20] Mr Blue : elmorte: cool
[2016-06-13 07:44:34] elmorte : I mean impossible without losing $$
[2016-06-13 07:44:38] Mr Blue : elmorte: about you been covered long as well*
[2016-06-13 07:45:53] Mr Blue : elmorte: I don't no what to say mate, I'm long so telling you to take a loss would be sneaky lol, maybe buy more if possible to higher the entry on short?
[2016-06-13 07:46:11] rapidtrades : wtf don't do that
[2016-06-13 07:46:15] Mr Blue : sell more*
[2016-06-13 07:46:18] elmorte : Hehe...
[2016-06-13 07:46:27] rapidtrades : don't do that either
[2016-06-13 07:46:35] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: thats a clever plan rapid. stay out of it
[2016-06-13 07:46:36] elmorte : Just leave it be rapid?
[2016-06-13 07:47:09] rapidtrades : elmorte: idk what was ur plan going in
[2016-06-13 07:47:22] Mr Blue : well anyways I don't want to get the blame, so trade how you like I'm sure your coveredon finex
[2016-06-13 07:47:40] elmorte : rapidtrades: https://blog.bitmex.com/earning-interest-income-on-xbtusd-with-minimised-risk/
[2016-06-13 07:47:59] elmorte : And it just so happened I had 10k USD on finex collecting dust...
[2016-06-13 07:48:05] rapidtrades : ah so ur hedge elsewhere?
[2016-06-13 07:48:33] elmorte : Yup....long 10k spot at finex, short 10k here
[2016-06-13 07:48:46] elmorte : USD
[2016-06-13 07:48:56] rapidtrades : i have a similar trade on but fairly low leverage
[2016-06-13 07:49:04] elmorte : mine's 1.15x
[2016-06-13 07:49:13] rapidtrades : should be ok then
[2016-06-13 07:49:36] rapidtrades : be careful about clawbacks tho....they're calculated every day
[2016-06-13 07:50:33] rapidtrades : at the rebalance price....so u could still get f*cked if ur in profit for that day
[2016-06-13 07:50:34] elmorte : spot at finex should be cool, no? Not margin
[2016-06-13 07:50:52] elmorte : Oh here? Yeah. already 1.7XBT down...
[2016-06-13 07:51:13] elmorte : But if I sell 10k worth of BTC on finex, it more than evens out
[2016-06-13 07:51:56] rapidtrades : right but ur losses in 4 hrs nets out to zero...so from that point on if u make a profit u can still get clawback, even tho uve lost 1.7 btc so far
[2016-06-13 07:52:10] elmorte : clawback at bitmex?
[2016-06-13 07:52:18] rapidtrades : each day is seperate for clawbacks or DPE
[2016-06-13 07:52:41] rapidtrades : yeah dpe, clawback same shit diff name
[2016-06-13 07:52:42] elmorte : Oh true, I didn't think about the rebalance putting me in a "profit"
[2016-06-13 07:53:05] rapidtrades : that could be a major risk with current volatility
[2016-06-13 07:53:31] elmorte : not just a hat rack, are ya rapid? :) Cheers
[2016-06-13 07:53:57] ayy_lmao : new 4hr candle incoming
[2016-06-13 07:54:07] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: oh no
[2016-06-13 07:54:34] elmorte : That's why I was hoping to close just now....since market was below index....didn't realize finex index and kaiko index could differ so much
[2016-06-13 07:55:08] rapidtrades : yeah trying to do the same at some point :)
[2016-06-13 07:55:10] elmorte : Just coz of Okc apparently
[2016-06-13 07:55:13] ayy_lmao : closing into the orderbook wont be affected by kaiko price tho
[2016-06-13 07:55:15] ayy_lmao : just ur liq
[2016-06-13 07:55:42] elmorte : ayy_lmao: I'm trying to short at finex at a price higher than market here
[2016-06-13 07:55:59] elmorte : So when I saw the index here higher than market, it got my hopes up...
[2016-06-13 07:56:40] elmorte : Like right now...
[2016-06-13 07:57:05] ayy_lmao : i see
[2016-06-13 07:57:45] elmorte : I have about $3 dpread to play with since I longed at 568 at finex and shorted at 571 here
[2016-06-13 07:57:51] elmorte : spread*
[2016-06-13 07:58:12] elmorte : well, more like ~$2 after fees
[2016-06-13 07:59:25] ayy_lmao : why are u longing btc with btc to hedge your real btc?
[2016-06-13 08:00:03] ayy_lmao : arent you just losing in fees
[2016-06-13 08:00:18] rapidtrades : he captured $3 like he said ^
[2016-06-13 08:00:38] ayy_lmao : oh wasnt paying attention i guess
[2016-06-13 08:00:48] zanza : so sleger must be making a lot of money here
[2016-06-13 08:00:56] zanza : if a small mark difference was $10k to him
[2016-06-13 08:01:01] rapidtrades : sleger's gone
[2016-06-13 08:01:11] zanza : imagine the jump from 570-670
[2016-06-13 08:01:29] zanza : gone to where?
[2016-06-13 08:01:44] rapidtrades : prolly quit the exchange
[2016-06-13 08:02:09] zanza : there aren't too many great alternatives
[2016-06-13 08:02:21] zanza : and it seems like he was made about, not making 100K instead of 90k
[2016-06-13 08:02:26] zanza : mad about*
[2016-06-13 08:02:29] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-13 08:02:43] rapidtrades : we don't know how hedged he was
[2016-06-13 08:02:44] ayy_lmao : he wouldnt have been able to make the 100k elsewhere
[2016-06-13 08:03:04] zanza : he will be back :)
[2016-06-13 08:03:06] rapidtrades : also he got 20% DPE on that
[2016-06-13 08:03:09] zanza : they always come back
[2016-06-13 08:03:20] zanza : even OKC has clawback right
[2016-06-13 08:03:24] ayy_lmao : 20x long would have made less
[2016-06-13 08:03:31] rapidtrades : zanza: not 20% tho
[2016-06-13 08:04:23] ayy_lmao : unless he is just using the leverage to not have to store alot of btc on exchanges
[2016-06-13 08:04:40] micmix : look at those asks on sept, crazy prices
[2016-06-13 08:05:11] rapidtrades : wtf $200 spread?
[2016-06-13 08:05:37] micmix : MMs maxed out the delta
[2016-06-13 08:05:46] zanza : i kove the long dated contracts, however they are just too low volume
[2016-06-13 08:05:56] zanza : to be useful
[2016-06-13 08:07:05] micmix : sleger would short sept with his big stack :-)
[2016-06-13 08:08:08] zanza : what about habibi ?
[2016-06-13 08:08:17] zanza : sleger, lot of old names
[2016-06-13 08:08:24] rapidtrades : sept mark is still done manually right?
[2016-06-13 08:08:26] micmix : haven't seen habibi for a while
[2016-06-13 08:08:42] micmix : rapidtrades: I think it's switches to manual when liquidity is low
[2016-06-13 08:09:10] rapidtrades : theres only 2k to 1300
[2016-06-13 08:09:30] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-06-13 08:10:42] rapidtrades : support is sept on manual?
[2016-06-13 08:13:04] rapidtrades : is noone supporting us today?
[2016-06-13 08:14:04] BitMEX_Wally : Hello
[2016-06-13 08:14:14] rapidtrades : hi wally
[2016-06-13 08:18:56] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: morning sir
[2016-06-13 08:19:36] BitMEX_Wally : All XBT futures contracts have impact mid price marking
[2016-06-13 08:20:16] BitMEX_Wally : But the spread is too wide on XBTU16 for it to adjust
[2016-06-13 08:20:46] rapidtrades : there are only 2k on the ask sid
[2016-06-13 08:21:01] rapidtrades : until 1977
[2016-06-13 08:21:41] elmorte : ayy_lmao: Re: your earlier question. Another reason was that I wasn't too sure about the price movement, wasn't in a gambling mood. So I hedged it to collect the funding fees, hoping to setlle when the premium reverses to discount
[2016-06-13 08:22:55] rapidtrades : what does ''impact'' mid price marking mean @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-13 08:25:12] chromaticcr1 : depth (0.1BTC*max inital lev)weighted midmarket price @rapidtrades
[2016-06-13 08:25:42] rapidtrades : whatever, that doesn't mean anything to me
[2016-06-13 08:26:09] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: haha probably means the market evolves, depending on how best to screw the biggest fish in the pond lol or mitigate loss for the exchange, people must be thinking price is going high for sept to be 1300.
[2016-06-13 08:27:29] Mr Blue : o.j :-)