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[2016-06-11 23:02:03] ggwp : there we go
[2016-06-11 23:02:07] ggwp : done
[2016-06-11 23:02:12] ggwp : can sleep now
[2016-06-11 23:02:19] ggwp : good night
[2016-06-11 23:02:23] BTCDJS : ggwp: oh no
[2016-06-11 23:02:25] luckynuke : finex high 5
[2016-06-11 23:02:35] rapidtrades : ggwp: suck iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[2016-06-11 23:02:35] BTCDJS : I know we were having banter mate
[2016-06-11 23:02:37] luckynuke : 596
[2016-06-11 23:02:46] rapidtrades : HOW DOES THAT FEEL
[2016-06-11 23:02:48] ggwp : rapidtrades: eat a dick
[2016-06-11 23:02:50] BTCDJS : but Im sorry that happened to you
[2016-06-11 23:02:57] ggwp : no worries
[2016-06-11 23:03:00] ggwp : play money
[2016-06-11 23:03:05] ggwp : the ride was fun
[2016-06-11 23:03:06] rapidtrades : f*ck him, he was being a baby past 5 days
[2016-06-11 23:03:14] rapidtrades : glad we got busted
[2016-06-11 23:03:24] rapidtrades : *he
[2016-06-11 23:03:43] ctpact : 600!! omg
[2016-06-11 23:03:45] luckynuke : The final countdown... dadadadaaa dadadadadaaaa dadadaaada dadadadaaadaaa
[2016-06-11 23:04:11] ggwp : reshorted here
[2016-06-11 23:04:28] rapidtrades : RIP ggwp
[2016-06-11 23:04:32] BTCDJS : ggwp: shut the f*ck up
[2016-06-11 23:04:33] luckynuke : nooo dontdo that
[2016-06-11 23:04:39] BTCDJS : no you did not
[2016-06-11 23:04:40] ctpact : 620 on the table for sure
[2016-06-11 23:04:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1999 @ 593.53
[2016-06-11 23:04:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 11400 @ 593.45
[2016-06-11 23:04:53] luckynuke : yes next resistance is 620
[2016-06-11 23:04:56] ggwp : I do this for the adrenaline :D
[2016-06-11 23:04:59] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's dumb enough to do that
[2016-06-11 23:05:13] ggwp : it's fun
[2016-06-11 23:05:15] luckynuke : duuude earn money :o
[2016-06-11 23:05:27] sleger : i doubt we see 600 no2
[2016-06-11 23:05:28] luckynuke : how much money is fun for you ?
[2016-06-11 23:05:29] sleger : now
[2016-06-11 23:05:38] rapidtrades : sleger: lol?
[2016-06-11 23:06:11] rapidtrades : 600 within 15 mins
[2016-06-11 23:06:17] rapidtrades : finex
[2016-06-11 23:06:35] ggwp : the more you talk the more I short
[2016-06-11 23:06:46] rapidtrades : gooood
[2016-06-11 23:07:08] BTCDJS : ggwp: don't be stupid
[2016-06-11 23:07:21] ggwp : I'm having fun m8
[2016-06-11 23:07:35] luckynuke : ggwp just play, but take the 620$ resistance serious
[2016-06-11 23:07:59] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: rekting is how most ppl learn...best u can do is not repeat their mistakes :)
[2016-06-11 23:08:06] ggwp : won't even break 600
[2016-06-11 23:08:19] sleger : rapidtrades: not lol
[2016-06-11 23:08:22] ggwp : too bad I got liquidated at the top
[2016-06-11 23:08:36] BTCDJS : ggwp: 603.98
[2016-06-11 23:08:46] ggwp : talking about spot
[2016-06-11 23:09:10] rapidtrades : ok if it breaks 600 on finex by :23 mins past the hour, both sleger and ggwp banned from chat for the next 6 hrs....or me
[2016-06-11 23:09:20] rapidtrades : if it doesnt
[2016-06-11 23:09:26] rapidtrades : deal?
[2016-06-11 23:09:35] luckynuke : no deal, fag
[2016-06-11 23:09:41] sleger : rapidtrades: ok
[2016-06-11 23:09:49] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-11 23:10:17] sleger : i just covered my long from the 0kcoin settlement now at 597 on finex
[2016-06-11 23:10:44] rapidtrades : flat again or what
[2016-06-11 23:10:49] rapidtrades : net
[2016-06-11 23:10:53] sleger : flat now, waiting to enter short
[2016-06-11 23:10:59] rapidtrades : ok cool
[2016-06-11 23:11:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 595.22
[2016-06-11 23:11:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 595.48 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-11 23:11:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 596.00
[2016-06-11 23:11:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 596.00
[2016-06-11 23:11:45] luckynuke : booom finex 599
[2016-06-11 23:11:59] ctpact : omg boom
[2016-06-11 23:12:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 596.37 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-11 23:12:46] luckynuke : to mooon
[2016-06-11 23:14:11] sleger : rapidtrades: regret that bet now ?
[2016-06-11 23:14:48] luckynuke : just a little retrace
[2016-06-11 23:15:30] sleger : 7 min left
[2016-06-11 23:15:34] rapidtrades : sleger: nope, at least its making this fun
[2016-06-11 23:15:38] miramm1115 : main okc bot in pump mode, I wouldn't short yet
[2016-06-11 23:15:41] luckynuke : realise your short positions til it´s too late boooys
[2016-06-11 23:15:53] miramm1115 : okc btc/cny
[2016-06-11 23:19:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 29 @ 597.63
[2016-06-11 23:19:47] GingerDan : how long do you think it will take for bulls to eat up 1150 BTC? because thats what needs to happen to break 600
[2016-06-11 23:20:09] luckynuke : finex 599,78
[2016-06-11 23:20:11] sleger : i think i have 75% chance losing now
[2016-06-11 23:20:34] luckynuke : Euro and China above 600
[2016-06-11 23:20:36] luckynuke : $
[2016-06-11 23:20:56] sleger : now 50%
[2016-06-11 23:21:31] sleger : 85% now
[2016-06-11 23:21:35] sleger : of winning
[2016-06-11 23:22:27] sleger : it's 23
[2016-06-11 23:22:43] sleger : see you in 6 hours rapid
[2016-06-11 23:22:59] luckynuke : not yet
[2016-06-11 23:23:06] sleger : by 23
[2016-06-11 23:23:11] luckynuke : yet
[2016-06-11 23:23:14] rapidtrades : goodbye chat lol
[2016-06-11 23:23:16] ggwp : rapid rekt
[2016-06-11 23:23:24] ggwp : bye bye
[2016-06-11 23:23:30] luckynuke : Epic rekt
[2016-06-11 23:23:47] sleger : hey now lets all make fun of rapid since he cant respond
[2016-06-11 23:24:16] luckynuke : is rapid all the time online ?
[2016-06-11 23:24:23] luckynuke : the whole day ?
[2016-06-11 23:25:25] ggwp : downtime soon
[2016-06-11 23:26:05] sleger : yes he doesnt trade he only comes here to bug everyone
[2016-06-11 23:26:43] ggwp : sleger: +1
[2016-06-11 23:26:46] sleger : right now i can hear typing on his keyboard (cause he has a very old clicky keyboard on his 386 laptop) and then deleting all cause he cant press enter
[2016-06-11 23:26:53] ggwp : called him on that twice
[2016-06-11 23:31:45] micmix : okc bot still pumping, it's not over
[2016-06-11 23:32:44] sleger : its because china has to reach 4000
[2016-06-11 23:34:47] micmix : their bot usually pumps much more than 100 cny but with 4000 psychological barrier I'm not sure how it will go this time
[2016-06-11 23:35:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2341 @ 598.20
[2016-06-11 23:36:28] BTCDJS : I closed at 605 fellas. Its late and I don't have the stones. But at least I didn't get REKT. I made profit like a boss
[2016-06-11 23:36:41] Rasign : BTCDJS: wp
[2016-06-11 23:36:47] wurstgelee : lol no, $15 premium on swaps doesnt seem too much
[2016-06-11 23:37:02] wurstgelee : nvm, that was junes
[2016-06-11 23:37:06] wurstgelee : swap only has 10
[2016-06-11 23:37:09] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-06-11 23:38:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4800 @ 598.91
[2016-06-11 23:38:15] sleger : now we brake 600 @rapidtrades
[2016-06-11 23:38:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 @ 599.05
[2016-06-11 23:38:49] billz : 4000 cny reached on okcoin
[2016-06-11 23:38:50] sleger : voila
[2016-06-11 23:38:52] BTCDJS : Damn
[2016-06-11 23:38:59] BTCDJS : Wish I held on now
[2016-06-11 23:39:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 140000 @ 600.89 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-11 23:39:07] BTCDJS : sleger: you're banned
[2016-06-11 23:39:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 280 @ 601.39
[2016-06-11 23:39:22] billz : ouch
[2016-06-11 23:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 23000 @ 601.91 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-11 23:39:39] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: +1 mate, I got destroyed, but managed to get out before liqudation so sould get nice amount back at rebalancing
[2016-06-11 23:40:10] micmix : well you guys should listen to ggwp more :smile:
[2016-06-11 23:40:15] BTCDJS : I think this is going to 650 maybe
[2016-06-11 23:40:18] wurstgelee : now swaps are more expensive than junes
[2016-06-11 23:40:20] ggwp : micmix: +1
[2016-06-11 23:40:26] BTCDJS : micmix: lol
[2016-06-11 23:40:30] ggwp : I got what was coming though
[2016-06-11 23:40:30] micmix : fore more mega rekts
[2016-06-11 23:40:36] BTCDJS : yeah and get REKT
[2016-06-11 23:40:50] ggwp : shit happens
[2016-06-11 23:40:51] BTCDJS : ggwp: yeah you did
[2016-06-11 23:40:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7000 @ 603.53
[2016-06-11 23:41:02] ggwp : no hard feelings on my side
[2016-06-11 23:41:10] Mr Blue : wow I got out like two minutes before price went over 600 and I'd been liquidated
[2016-06-11 23:41:30] BTCDJS : shouldve got your facts straight instead of just claiming it was obvious
[2016-06-11 23:41:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 2 @ 622.76 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-11 23:41:35] sleger : BTCDJS: why ?
[2016-06-11 23:41:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 698278 @ 605.59 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-11 23:41:46] wurstgelee : holy shit
[2016-06-11 23:41:46] BTCDJS : sleger: why what
[2016-06-11 23:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.02333
[2016-06-11 23:41:55] sleger : BTCDJS: sleger: you're banned
[2016-06-11 23:41:56] ggwp : dang
[2016-06-11 23:42:10] BTCDJS : sleger: you made a deal with rapid right?
[2016-06-11 23:42:19] BTCDJS : 600+
[2016-06-11 23:42:19] sleger : BTCDJS: yes, can you remind us what it was ?
[2016-06-11 23:42:30] rentchev : wow
[2016-06-11 23:42:35] rentchev : what a REKT
[2016-06-11 23:42:36] micmix : BTCDJS: deal was time-limited, and rapid lost
[2016-06-11 23:42:48] Mr Blue : wish I didn't have to wait till rebalance, maybe I'd kick my self in the nuts again an short lol
[2016-06-11 23:42:51] micmix : by like 5 minutes
[2016-06-11 23:42:54] BTCDJS : Oh time limited
[2016-06-11 23:43:00] sleger : micmix: much more than 5
[2016-06-11 23:43:01] BTCDJS : missed that
[2016-06-11 23:43:03] rentchev : to bad I only got 2000 of XBTU16
[2016-06-11 23:43:13] sleger : 38 - sleger: now we brake 600 @rapidtrades
[2016-06-11 23:43:15] micmix : sleger: maybe more, I didn't pay attention
[2016-06-11 23:43:18] sleger : 15 min
[2016-06-11 23:43:29] sleger : and i called it at 599.5 30s before
[2016-06-11 23:43:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 130000 @ 608.27 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-11 23:44:02] billz : loving this rektage
[2016-06-11 23:44:02] billz : screw you bitcoin bears
[2016-06-11 23:44:12] sleger : insurance fund gonna take a hit
[2016-06-11 23:44:27] sleger : because of deficient marking price
[2016-06-11 23:44:27] Mr Blue : what I don't get is I was + 0.15 BTC before I started buying back my short, with total balance of 0.7 something, didn't think buying back would effect the 0.15
[2016-06-11 23:45:37] Mr Blue : just thought Id get less of the 0.55 back
[2016-06-11 23:46:04] Mr Blue : anyways wait till rebalancing I guess lol
[2016-06-11 23:46:13] GingerDan : 130,000 Sheeeiiiit
[2016-06-11 23:48:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6000 @ 608.77
[2016-06-11 23:48:18] ricmi : 130 k 4 btc at this prices
[2016-06-11 23:48:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 608.86 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-11 23:48:23] sleger : GingerDan: 130k ? Liquidated short on XBTUSD: Buy 698278 @ 605.59 REKTosaurus
[2016-06-11 23:48:45] j8 : REKT needs a new word for that one
[2016-06-11 23:48:47] rentchev : there was another one 130k sleger
[2016-06-11 23:48:57] sleger : yes but 130k is smaller than 698l
[2016-06-11 23:49:02] rentchev : of course
[2016-06-11 23:49:04] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-11 23:49:08] rentchev : he didn't see th ebig one
[2016-06-11 23:49:13] sleger : so why say oh shiieett
[2016-06-11 23:49:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 610.08
[2016-06-11 23:49:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2756 @ 611.11
[2016-06-11 23:49:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 18500 @ 610.80
[2016-06-11 23:49:24] sleger : and thats why i was pointing it out
[2016-06-11 23:49:49] micmix : insurance fund half of what it was
[2016-06-11 23:50:00] sleger : dpe showing now
[2016-06-11 23:50:06] sleger : stupid marking system
[2016-06-11 23:50:06] Yumi : Its over 1M contracts
[2016-06-11 23:50:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1335 @ 611.84
[2016-06-11 23:50:26] ctpact : go go
[2016-06-11 23:50:35] BTCDJS : god damnit
[2016-06-11 23:50:45] BTCDJS : wish I didn't bottle it
[2016-06-11 23:51:30] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: could be worse mate, you could be me, been a bad day only fiat gains no extra BTC, infact BTC loss lol
[2016-06-11 23:51:57] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: I know but still.
[2016-06-11 23:52:31] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: my plan was 637. should've stuck to the plan
[2016-06-11 23:52:39] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: true extra $15 on each BTC would of done you nicely sir, but could be worse just saying ;-)
[2016-06-11 23:53:05] rentchev : sold XBTU16 at 723
[2016-06-11 23:53:15] rentchev : joy
[2016-06-11 23:53:49] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: next target will be 700 but resistance at 625 on finex, so I think I'm going to bed to cry about my BTC losses, and be back with vengance tomorrow lol
[2016-06-11 23:54:15] rentchev : Mr Blue I thought you were long?
[2016-06-11 23:54:38] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: when we hit the ceiling. Im shorting the hell out of BTC. question is. where is the ceiling?
[2016-06-11 23:54:50] rentchev : BTCDJS: lol
[2016-06-11 23:55:01] rentchev : the million $ question
[2016-06-11 23:55:09] rentchev : there is no ceiling
[2016-06-11 23:55:19] rentchev : there is more overbought and less overbought
[2016-06-11 23:55:27] Mr Blue : rentchev: long story mate, but last night at 580 I decided I was going to put a -10000 short in at 586, woke up at 585 decided profit wasn't good enough, then got stuck all day till I raped my self lol
[2016-06-11 23:55:33] rentchev : right now is overbought on many timeframes
[2016-06-11 23:55:42] rentchev : 30 min, 1h, 2h
[2016-06-11 23:56:10] rentchev : Mr Blue: sorry to hear
[2016-06-11 23:56:13] viptrader : lsk at 735
[2016-06-11 23:56:18] viptrader : 768 here
[2016-06-11 23:56:29] rentchev : LSK support is 725
[2016-06-11 23:56:34] rentchev : might be a good buy here
[2016-06-11 23:56:57] Mr Blue : rentchev: its no problem sh happens, I still gain with Bitcoin going up, but a loss is a loss must admit to it lol
[2016-06-11 23:57:34] rentchev : I know it hurts
[2016-06-11 23:57:44] viptrader : short it
[2016-06-11 23:57:47] viptrader : LSK
[2016-06-11 23:57:49] rentchev : I will tell you what happened with me a month ago some time
[2016-06-11 23:58:07] Mr Blue : rentchev: cool, look forward to it
[2016-06-11 23:58:15] rentchev : shorted at 622 average
[2016-06-11 23:59:27] yerb : can mark price liquidate your position even if you are way up in profit according to the book?
[2016-06-11 23:59:36] sleger : sure
[2016-06-11 23:59:50] yerb : fck that damnit!!!!
[2016-06-12 00:00:00] sleger : yes its a retarded system
[2016-06-12 00:00:12] sleger : told them many times
[2016-06-12 00:00:48] yerb : where are BitMEX people right now i wanna fuggin haras them about it
[2016-06-12 00:00:57] Mr Blue : it saved my life lol, or at least I think it did, some how down money that wasn't on the line lol, but hopefully I get back at rebalance
[2016-06-12 00:01:46] GingerDan : If a $15 premium liquidated you, you are waaaay over leveraged
[2016-06-12 00:02:10] yerb : it didnt but its fuggin retarded
[2016-06-12 00:02:21] yerb : i was trading half of my acc tho
[2016-06-12 00:02:46] Mr Blue : mark was 598 my liquidation price was 600, got out just in time but payed 606 for the 10000 back, when they originally cost 586
[2016-06-12 00:05:12] Mr Blue : so say $20 x 18 = $360 loss, had total balance of just over 0.7 so not expecting too much back, but should be getting something lol
[2016-06-12 00:06:36] Mr Blue : just hoping I didn't mess my self up more, as would of still had the 0.15 if got liquidated, so if I get more than that back its a bonus lol
[2016-06-12 00:06:58] Mr Blue : if not fml
[2016-06-12 00:07:08] j8 : so you exited short around 598 and re-entered at 606?
[2016-06-12 00:07:52] Mr Blue : no I exited at 606 and got in at 586, was -10,000
[2016-06-12 00:08:52] Mr Blue : sorry wrong way round but you get it
[2016-06-12 00:09:22] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: lay off the smoke dude
[2016-06-12 00:10:11] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: lmao, its possible.. still I know my loss should of only been 360
[2016-06-12 00:10:42] Mr Blue : + fees
[2016-06-12 00:12:50] GingerDan : Is the rebalance 12.00 GMT each day?
[2016-06-12 00:12:57] Mr Blue : I think I raped my self trying to do a fast one on the liquidation man lol, we'll see
[2016-06-12 00:13:35] Mr Blue : GingerDan: ye should be unless every 8h, so might be one at 4am
[2016-06-12 00:13:45] aethlios : only 220k usd at bitfinex. next rate funding will be high
[2016-06-12 00:14:50] sleger : bitmex predicting a mean reversion to 608 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/liquidation
[2016-06-12 00:15:11] yerb : we got price action party with Pizpie as the voice of bitcoin in whalepool.io teamspeak
[2016-06-12 00:15:13] j8 : i predict a mean reversion of the insurance fund, to 0
[2016-06-12 00:15:26] sleger : j8: too easy
[2016-06-12 00:15:41] yerb : come join us https://whalepool.io/connect/teamspeak
[2016-06-12 00:15:42] Mr Blue : j8: lol ye bed exchange has been hit hard
[2016-06-12 00:15:49] Mr Blue : bet*
[2016-06-12 00:15:52] j8 : too bad we dont have insurance fund futures
[2016-06-12 00:17:17] Mr Blue : exchange should of done a $15 premium few hours back, maybe would of trapped more bears shorting
[2016-06-12 00:17:45] Mr Blue : we all new it was going past 600, was just a matter of time lol
[2016-06-12 00:18:07] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: then you should've longed mate
[2016-06-12 00:18:50] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: I know that, but it was a night before desision that went wrong lol, I got greedy and paid the price
[2016-06-12 00:19:07] BTCDJS : fair enough
[2016-06-12 00:19:10] sleger : so tonight the 2 guys who joined a week ago and started occupying 80% of the trollbox, one saying moon the other one down, both got rekt ?
[2016-06-12 00:19:36] BTCDJS : sleger: yup
[2016-06-12 00:19:54] sleger : i win a bet with myself then, 2nd one tonight
[2016-06-12 00:19:57] j8 : how did the moon guy get rekt. and who was that
[2016-06-12 00:20:06] sleger : mr blue was this man
[2016-06-12 00:20:13] Mr Blue : well I didn't get liquidated and never lost money gere, but yes been Rekt today lol of past profits
[2016-06-12 00:20:34] BTCDJS : wheres the frenchman? he was quite loud about doom as well
[2016-06-12 00:21:30] BTCDJS : #sheep man
[2016-06-12 00:21:37] Mr Blue : profits are profits, but my prodictions was still correct, however I didn't expect a push like this till monday, so I was off lol
[2016-06-12 00:22:12] micmix : sleger: supermine was on the board with 320% until yesterday, he's not there anymore
[2016-06-12 00:22:33] sleger : 320% of 0.6million $ is pretty good
[2016-06-12 00:23:04] rentchev : micmix: how do you know there are no names?
[2016-06-12 00:24:11] rentchev : Anyone know how many total BTC was the loss on that REKT?
[2016-06-12 00:24:11] j8 : Daisy-Coconut-Shaker 12067.60% nice one
[2016-06-12 00:24:24] rentchev : nice indeed
[2016-06-12 00:24:55] BTCDJS : yeah he's some boy
[2016-06-12 00:25:06] yerb : Tradingview DARK THEME https://userstyles.org/styles/118025/tradingview-com-dark-theme
[2016-06-12 00:26:49] j8 : although, they're not on the top notional list so they've made less than 17.241 XBT
[2016-06-12 00:27:21] rentchev : j8 what number are you? :-)
[2016-06-12 00:27:27] rentchev : I am sure you are in there
[2016-06-12 00:27:42] j8 : if i wanted that to be public i would make it public
[2016-06-12 00:28:01] rentchev : I wasn't expecting an answer
[2016-06-12 00:28:34] j8 : i'm somewhere in there :) hows that
[2016-06-12 00:28:51] rentchev : perfect
[2016-06-12 00:28:55] sleger : i suspect for most people towards the top it doesnt mean much anyways
[2016-06-12 00:29:03] rentchev : of course
[2016-06-12 00:29:05] sleger : as they most likely all have positions cross exchanges as well
[2016-06-12 00:29:48] j8 : yup
[2016-06-12 00:31:02] rentchev : hey micmix is in there
[2016-06-12 00:31:09] rentchev : 282.72%
[2016-06-12 00:32:03] rentchev : j8: the guy that made 541 XBT, what do you think was their initial account size?
[2016-06-12 00:32:19] rentchev : just a guess
[2016-06-12 00:32:36] sleger : but not on top part, we should all give him money to invest and he can keep 20% of profits ;)
[2016-06-12 00:33:10] rentchev : I would agree to that
[2016-06-12 00:33:23] sleger : but you keep 100% of losses
[2016-06-12 00:33:28] j8 : tough to say, they haven't been active as long as the leaderboard's been up. possibly an old mega MM account? i dunno if it's realistic to make that much as MM
[2016-06-12 00:33:35] rentchev : I can invest 5 BTC in his fund
[2016-06-12 00:33:38] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-12 00:33:41] BTCDJS : ok sleger now we know its you
[2016-06-12 00:34:06] rentchev : that makes sense j8
[2016-06-12 00:34:07] sleger : j8: dont think its a MM
[2016-06-12 00:34:17] j8 : rentchev: also keep in mind the ROE calculation is way off
[2016-06-12 00:35:18] j8 : sleger: someone that made a killing on XBT24H last october maybe
[2016-06-12 00:35:19] Mr Blue : guys my rebalancing thing says -0.7 that's gay I should of saved the 0.15 and let my self be liquidated, not sure how it worked out.
[2016-06-12 00:35:21] rentchev : what do you mean j8
[2016-06-12 00:36:19] rentchev : Mr Blue: did you have other positions?
[2016-06-12 00:36:30] Mr Blue : rentchev: no
[2016-06-12 00:37:02] rentchev : $10 premium now on XBTUSD
[2016-06-12 00:37:04] j8 : on the top 25 by ROE, the way they calculate ROE is whack.. basically if you withdraw your profits and then later deposit them, it counts as a higher initial equity and your ROE goes down. so even though they're not on the list they might have much higher ROE
[2016-06-12 00:37:30] rentchev : I see
[2016-06-12 00:38:06] rentchev : it would make sense to calculate based on deposit and withdrawal as well
[2016-06-12 00:38:18] Mars! : What is the unit of size on order book ?
[2016-06-12 00:38:20] rentchev : since they know all transactions
[2016-06-12 00:38:20] Mr Blue : rentchev: its a long story I won't go over it again tonight mate, will just check over trading logs tomorrow or something
[2016-06-12 00:38:57] rentchev : ok Mr Blue
[2016-06-12 00:39:09] rentchev : Mars!: unit size is 1 contract
[2016-06-12 00:39:17] rentchev : each contract has different value
[2016-06-12 00:39:28] rentchev : for example XBTUSD has a value of 1 USD
[2016-06-12 00:40:01] rentchev : XBTU16 on the other hand - 1 contract = 0.0073 XBT
[2016-06-12 00:40:12] rentchev : you can see all this in the bottom left
[2016-06-12 00:46:41] rentchev : 585-590 turned support now
[2016-06-12 00:47:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 614.32
[2016-06-12 00:47:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5724 @ 614.20
[2016-06-12 00:47:18] Mars! : rentchev: thanks, clear that.
[2016-06-12 00:47:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 23247 @ 614.53 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-12 00:47:48] rentchev : Mars!: np
[2016-06-12 00:47:58] Moo : holy cow
[2016-06-12 00:49:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 550 @ 641.03
[2016-06-12 00:49:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7915 @ 618.85
[2016-06-12 00:49:17] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-06-12 00:49:28] billz : god i feel like i sold too early at 625
[2016-06-12 00:49:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15 @ 619.29
[2016-06-12 00:49:39] rentchev : lol REKT
[2016-06-12 00:49:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21 @ 619.97
[2016-06-12 00:50:27] Moo : this is so much money entering the market
[2016-06-12 00:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 18291 @ 621.91
[2016-06-12 00:50:55] rentchev : 621?
[2016-06-12 00:50:56] Moo : where is it gonna stop?
[2016-06-12 00:51:04] rentchev : price is 638 now
[2016-06-12 00:51:10] Moo : everybody joking about 1000... might not be a joke
[2016-06-12 00:51:20] BTCDJS : 650 is the top I'm sure of it
[2016-06-12 00:51:37] rentchev : BTCDJS: top for what timeframe?
[2016-06-12 00:51:40] rentchev : for today?
[2016-06-12 00:51:41] rentchev : lol
[2016-06-12 00:51:44] BTCDJS : for now anyway
[2016-06-12 00:51:56] BTCDJS : rentchev: yes
[2016-06-12 00:51:58] Mr Blue : I think spot will rest at 625 or lower before push, but could be wrong
[2016-06-12 00:52:37] micmix : sleger: you're welcome to invest in micmix hedge fund :wink:
[2016-06-12 00:54:07] rentchev : he he
[2016-06-12 00:54:42] rentchev : micmix: we will give you access by API
[2016-06-12 00:54:52] rentchev : 5 BTC good?
[2016-06-12 00:57:33] dharmabum : here we go again
[2016-06-12 00:58:01] Moo : is this like... a government trying to get into btc?
[2016-06-12 00:58:50] Mr Blue : Moo: would be nice
[2016-06-12 00:59:06] rentchev : Moo: that's nothing
[2016-06-12 00:59:14] dharmabum : besst way to hedge BTC against price drop vs USD?
[2016-06-12 00:59:16] rentchev : this is actually not much money going in at the moment
[2016-06-12 00:59:25] rentchev : wait when $ billions try to get in
[2016-06-12 00:59:27] micmix : but seriously this is a dev/test account, I only deposited 4 coins to this account to test new algos
[2016-06-12 00:59:32] rentchev : it will be crazy
[2016-06-12 01:00:31] Moo : when I told my friends "this is the last $500 coin you will see", I should have longed
[2016-06-12 01:00:36] Moo : i just sat it out until now
[2016-06-12 01:00:45] Moo : with my few coins
[2016-06-12 01:00:56] sleger : put your money where your mouth is or shut up
[2016-06-12 01:05:01] j8 : no big liquidations yet on june or sept. i can't wait!
[2016-06-12 01:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30 @ 623.69
[2016-06-12 01:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 623.48
[2016-06-12 01:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 80000 @ 623.64 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-12 01:05:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 232 @ 752.50
[2016-06-12 01:05:22] Mr Blue : rentchev: ye but we could always get some 100,000 BTC dumping idiot, hopefully coins would reach stronger hands, but its a possiblity
[2016-06-12 01:05:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1400 @ 624.55
[2016-06-12 01:05:55] BTCVIX : we got pizpie price calling on TS -- ts.whaleclub.io
[2016-06-12 01:07:33] Mr Blue : if governments got involved, would all be eaten for sure
[2016-06-12 01:07:38] micmix : j8: june had very low premium for a while, probably no big players shorting the premium to rekt
[2016-06-12 01:08:11] micmix : my bot almost closed the june long by now
[2016-06-12 01:08:19] j8 : 400k in shorts have impressive resolve
[2016-06-12 01:08:42] dharmabum : j8: heh. absolutely.
[2016-06-12 01:09:07] sleger : 13% dpe well done bitmex
[2016-06-12 01:09:26] j8 : i've been waiting for a chance to close long on june, just haven't had the liquidity when the price is right
[2016-06-12 01:10:25] micmix : yeah, hard to do without a bot
[2016-06-12 01:11:18] micmix : have to wait for a big liquidation
[2016-06-12 01:14:06] j8 : i use a bot, problem is i still feel the market is undervaluing june. will probably just hold to expiry
[2016-06-12 01:14:47] sleger : 3% premium for <2 weeks is not bad
[2016-06-12 01:15:10] j8 : with okc at 2.25%, it's pretty bad
[2016-06-12 01:15:36] sleger : oh you mean june here sorry
[2016-06-12 01:16:00] sleger : im short 100k contracts, i will keep until expiry as well
[2016-06-12 01:16:46] j8 : implied vol is well below the 30 day historical vol
[2016-06-12 01:17:43] micmix : I will close all of it today but maybe holding to expiry would be better. Premium was jumping up and down lately.
[2016-06-12 01:21:18] sam : finally a big loooong green dick shoved down ggwp's throat
[2016-06-12 01:21:34] sam : his spam was getting bloody irritating
[2016-06-12 01:23:58] billz : rip bears
[2016-06-12 01:24:05] ayy_lmao : y chat so savage
[2016-06-12 01:32:03] billz : cause this is so hype
[2016-06-12 01:33:02] CrazyEarner : oh lord another exchange and a troll box heaven forbid :P
[2016-06-12 01:33:35] j8 : it's been way more trolly lately
[2016-06-12 01:33:42] miramm1115 : DPE clearing up a bit
[2016-06-12 01:33:52] miramm1115 : oops, wrong account again
[2016-06-12 01:33:54] j8 : even wally trolls a bit
[2016-06-12 01:35:09] CrazyEarner : Does this site allow you to sell for USD and cashout or no fiat options?
[2016-06-12 01:35:26] micmix : quality of bitmex chat is inversely correlated with bitcoin price
[2016-06-12 01:35:47] j8 : no fiat @CrazyEarner
[2016-06-12 01:35:55] Mr Blue : CrazyEarner: welcome, no just BTC here, but nice leverage options.
[2016-06-12 01:37:15] CrazyEarner : how does that work on here the leverage just buy and leave alone n let it do its thing
[2016-06-12 01:38:09] Mr Blue : CrazyEarner: no you move it up and down, try start with x5 see how you go
[2016-06-12 01:38:46] Mr Blue : CrazyEarner: its on the left hand side the bar with x1 x2 x5 and so on
[2016-06-12 01:38:53] CrazyEarner : I know how to trade jsut not on this type platfom lol
[2016-06-12 01:39:18] Mr Blue : cool
[2016-06-12 01:39:24] j8 : CrazyEarner: lots of reading to do, start here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-06-12 01:42:12] CrazyEarner : ok cool last one how does one depost eTH here or is it just purly BTC only
[2016-06-12 01:43:19] billz : btc only, read that page he linked
[2016-06-12 01:46:26] CrazyEarner : REading now so tihkn i get it all profit bTC based on ETH prices and so forth and contracts and futures etc
[2016-06-12 01:48:02] j8 : yes. it's simple that way, especially for ETHXBT, it's pretty much exactly like trading eth spot
[2016-06-12 01:48:44] j8 : except the way funding costs work is a bit different.
[2016-06-12 01:57:10] micmix : j8: do you have data on max premium on swap today?
[2016-06-12 01:57:50] j8 : not logged, but the highest i remember seeing it was a little over 2%
[2016-06-12 01:58:16] micmix : thanks, I really should start logging that
[2016-06-12 01:58:38] CrazyEarner : is this irc chat intergrated with web chat ?
[2016-06-12 01:58:50] j8 : micmix: but wait, theres https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-12 01:59:02] micmix : oh yeah, cool
[2016-06-12 01:59:03] CrazyEarner : looks like it is i see me on chat and irc :) nice little feature
[2016-06-12 02:00:26] j8 : was 3.1184% over spot on a spike apparently
[2016-06-12 02:01:40] micmix : {"symbol":".XBTUSDPI","timestamp":"2016-06-12T00:50:00.000Z","price":0.031184}
[2016-06-12 02:02:06] micmix : yep, found it too
[2016-06-12 02:07:23] j8 : `XBTUSD` peaked at 640, index was 621.41
[2016-06-12 02:09:21] j8 : or somewhere between 618.43 at 00:49:00 and 621.41 at 00:50:00
[2016-06-12 02:15:49] BitMEX_Wally : You can see the historical XBTUSD vs .XBT premium here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-12 02:16:12] asdfman : What am I looking at?
[2016-06-12 02:16:30] BitMEX_Wally : The premium of XBTUSD over .XBT
[2016-06-12 02:16:39] BitMEX_Wally : Expressed as a percentage
[2016-06-12 02:16:52] BitMEX_Wally : So it is currently 0.8607%
[2016-06-12 02:17:18] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: is it mid price or last traded?
[2016-06-12 02:17:30] asdfman : .XBT being what? I know I should have RTFM, but.. is that low?
[2016-06-12 02:17:59] BitMEX_Wally : fundingRate+(impactBidPrice above fairPrice)%indicativeSettlePrice
[2016-06-12 02:18:19] BitMEX_Wally : (or impactAskPrice below fairPrice) if discount
[2016-06-12 02:18:26] j8 : i see
[2016-06-12 02:18:34] asdfman : sure
[2016-06-12 02:19:05] BitMEX_Wally : So if the funding rate is 0.30% and XBTUSD impact bid price is trading 0.10% above the fair price then the total premium is 0.40%
[2016-06-12 02:20:25] asdfman : more longers push rate up?
[2016-06-12 02:20:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-06-12 02:20:49] BitMEX_Wally : `.XBT` is the underlying price of Bitcoin on Bitfinex, Bitstamp, OKC
[2016-06-12 02:20:51] asdfman : not just more volume?
[2016-06-12 02:21:01] asdfman : ok
[2016-06-12 02:21:06] BitMEX_Wally : People are currently bidding the XBTUSD swap up 6 dollars above the Bitcoin price
[2016-06-12 02:21:42] rentchev : premium was $12 at one point earlier
[2016-06-12 02:22:16] BitMEX_Wally : We are going to use this premium index set the funding rate, which will help bring the premium down and avoid DPE
[2016-06-12 02:23:21] asdfman : how does your orderbook @ stamp look?
[2016-06-12 02:23:32] rapidtrades : I did half my time and got out for good behavior
[2016-06-12 02:23:51] rapidtrades : true story
[2016-06-12 02:24:10] rapidtrades : there were lot of RekTed ppl in there man...
[2016-06-12 02:24:23] BitMEX_Wally : Any changes to the funding rate will take a little while, because it cannot increase by more than 75% of maintenance margin (i.e. 0.375%) at a time
[2016-06-12 02:24:45] sleger : rapidtrades: go back out
[2016-06-12 02:24:51] sleger : see you tomorrow
[2016-06-12 02:25:01] rapidtrades : ....u srs? we're at 621 lol
[2016-06-12 02:25:16] rapidtrades : how about go with the spirit of the deal lol
[2016-06-12 02:25:20] asdfman : here its spread is 606-607 @ stamp. whut?
[2016-06-12 02:25:38] asdfman : is it retarded? :/
[2016-06-12 02:26:50] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: interested to see how that works out. something definitely needs to be done. my first thought is the lag in the funding rate could be a problem.
[2016-06-12 02:27:13] BitMEX_Wally : j8: It's only an 8 hour lag
[2016-06-12 02:28:17] CrazyEarner : lol lag sounding like another gox lol
[2016-06-12 02:29:13] asdfman : could jump quite ffffast
[2016-06-12 02:29:26] Blargwaffle : You're comparing bitmex to gox?
[2016-06-12 02:29:49] j8 : which is pretty good, although it's more than enough time for all the premiums to turn to discounts while the price crashes. it's a start anyway
[2016-06-12 02:30:29] sleger : i bet that in 3 months people come to their senses and mark the swap to market just like xbtusd was
[2016-06-12 02:30:35] CrazyEarner : no just stating like when gox use to have lag and people talking bout 8 hour lag reminds me of gox trading days when massive lag on trades lol
[2016-06-12 02:32:02] Blargwaffle : Ahkay.
[2016-06-12 02:32:53] j8 : that's a very different thing.
[2016-06-12 02:33:46] asdfman : how will one be affected if one goes 50x long 100k and the price rockets right after? the rates will eat the contracts, yeh?
[2016-06-12 02:34:17] asdfman : eat into, over time
[2016-06-12 02:36:57] asdfman : I mean, is .XBTUSDPI the cost of having a contract?
[2016-06-12 02:37:16] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: do you log impact mid price? I would like to run some analysis if it's available
[2016-06-12 02:37:47] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: We publish it on the instrument table but there's no history
[2016-06-12 02:38:00] j8 : if the price goes up you made a lot of money. the price has to go up on average more than the interest rate, but that's usually around 0.05% a day (price needs to go up 31 cents a day on average). maybe rates will spike to 0.5% a day, which would hurt if it lasted for a while @asdfman
[2016-06-12 02:38:05] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: ok, I'll start logging myself
[2016-06-12 02:39:15] asdfman : j8: thanks. and "a while" being many 8h cycles, I guess?
[2016-06-12 02:40:08] BitMEX_Wally : The swap will reach an equilibrium with the fundingRate
[2016-06-12 02:40:35] BitMEX_Wally : If the premium is 1% then the funding rate going up by 0.3% might collapse the premium
[2016-06-12 02:40:53] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hope so
[2016-06-12 02:40:57] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. it will encourage more shorts to come into the market
[2016-06-12 02:41:16] sq : BitMEX_Wally: when r u guys incorporating the new funding rate, ie includes premium
[2016-06-12 02:41:22] j8 : well, say it's 0.5% for two days, you pay 1% on your position notional, which is a lot. but the reason it's that high is because everyone wants to be long, because the price is going up. the price probably went up a lot more than 1% in that two days, so you're still way in the green @asdfman
[2016-06-12 02:42:09] BitMEX_Wally : sq: We will send out an announcement soon. The new fundingRate will be set at 12:00 UTC and charged at 20:00 UTC
[2016-06-12 02:42:25] BitMEX_Wally : So you have 16 hours' notice
[2016-06-12 02:42:36] sleger : yeah cause 20-12=16?
[2016-06-12 02:42:41] sq : ok so the shorters will new receive the premium?
[2016-06-12 02:43:04] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: It is currently 02:42 UTC
[2016-06-12 02:43:22] asdfman : aha. I think I got it. so basically, @j8 , it might also end up eating everything if held long enough? like compare it with the rate of BTC-creation.
[2016-06-12 02:43:32] sleger : 12-2=16 or 20-2=16 ?
[2016-06-12 02:44:14] BitMEX_Wally : Fine, you have at least 16 hours notice, i.e. 17 hours and 16 minutes
[2016-06-12 02:44:45] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: an announcement for what
[2016-06-12 02:44:55] BitMEX_Wally : The announcement email will come out at 04:00 UTC
[2016-06-12 02:44:59] sq : BitMEX_Wally: will u be paying out the full premium once everyday?
[2016-06-12 02:45:03] rapidtrades : what's it about
[2016-06-12 02:45:09] j8 : yeah, even when the market's not super bullish, funding costs could be say 10% annualised. if it was a 10x leveraged long, that would eat your entire equity in a year. assuming the price didn't go up
[2016-06-12 02:45:16] sleger : and it starts tomorrow, wow that's short notice
[2016-06-12 02:45:26] rapidtrades : what starts tomorrow
[2016-06-12 02:45:33] rapidtrades : WHAT'S GOING ON
[2016-06-12 02:45:40] sleger : you're banned get out
[2016-06-12 02:45:49] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: We're talking about your mom
[2016-06-12 02:46:01] sq : lol
[2016-06-12 02:46:17] sleger : lol