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[2016-06-09 15:38:11] arbitrage001 : technical mumbo jumbo
[2016-06-09 15:38:22] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: that's called a daily chart
[2016-06-09 15:38:28] ggwp : 1 Direction is going down
[2016-06-09 15:38:29] rapidtrades : not 1D
[2016-06-09 15:38:34] arbitrage001 : all i know is law of gravity
[2016-06-09 15:38:40] arbitrage001 : what goes up, must come down
[2016-06-09 15:38:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: potato potaato
[2016-06-09 15:38:57] rapidtrades : 1 Day Bolling band implies the indicator value
[2016-06-09 15:39:00] rapidtrades : NO
[2016-06-09 15:39:11] ggwp : rapid you pro
[2016-06-09 15:39:14] ggwp : tell him
[2016-06-09 15:39:16] BTCDJS : oh
[2016-06-09 15:39:23] arbitrage001 : what object doesn't obey law of gravity?
[2016-06-09 15:39:30] ggwp : your mom
[2016-06-09 15:39:36] ggwp : xDDD
[2016-06-09 15:39:42] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: incinerated jew?
[2016-06-09 15:40:03] rapidtrades : ok that was a bit much
[2016-06-09 15:40:28] rapidtrades : although its true
[2016-06-09 15:40:55] arbitrage001 : what is bitcoin intrinsic value
[2016-06-09 15:41:05] rapidtrades : 577
[2016-06-09 15:41:14] ggwp : 42
[2016-06-09 15:41:25] rapidtrades : and not a penny less!
[2016-06-09 15:41:54] BTCDJS : ggwp: no thats the answer to the meaning of life the universe and everything in it
[2016-06-09 15:42:14] ggwp : bitcoin is the meaning of life
[2016-06-09 15:42:36] BTCDJS : deep
[2016-06-09 15:43:13] ggwp : just like where we're headed
[2016-06-09 15:44:07] ggwp : cant even break 30 lel
[2016-06-09 15:44:13] j8 : rapidtrades: bitcoin hasn't spent 3 weeks outside the weekly bands since 2013, so yeah maybe something big is happening, but also a pullback wouldn't be surprising
[2016-06-09 15:45:23] ggwp : here we go again
[2016-06-09 15:45:25] sleger : a total meltdown as well
[2016-06-09 15:45:37] arbitrage001 : please melt!
[2016-06-09 15:45:48] BTCDJS : j8: you think 650 is possible?
[2016-06-09 15:46:01] j8 : anything is possible. what timeframe
[2016-06-09 15:46:08] sleger : whoever would say no is an idiot
[2016-06-09 15:46:11] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: even 1200 is possbile
[2016-06-09 15:46:17] arbitrage001 : but is it likely?
[2016-06-09 15:46:18] ggwp : 10k is possible
[2016-06-09 15:46:20] sleger : 9billion is possible
[2016-06-09 15:46:25] BTCDJS : j8: next few days
[2016-06-09 15:46:25] sleger : but wont happen
[2016-06-09 15:46:35] j8 : not likely
[2016-06-09 15:46:37] ggwp : 10k is feasable
[2016-06-09 15:46:52] lockhedge : trollbox indicator says: volatility gets lower, bored traders, nothing is happening
[2016-06-09 15:46:56] sleger : in next few days ? @ggwp
[2016-06-09 15:47:06] ggwp : tonight
[2016-06-09 15:47:17] justinlooking : how short are ya slege/
[2016-06-09 15:47:18] ggwp : granny yellen
[2016-06-09 15:47:19] justinlooking : *?
[2016-06-09 15:47:21] sleger : rapid would like it
[2016-06-09 15:47:31] sleger : a bit, around 100-150btc
[2016-06-09 15:47:34] ggwp : is gonna buy buy buy
[2016-06-09 15:48:02] ggwp : what happened to the 200?
[2016-06-09 15:48:21] sleger : i reduced yesterday with that 1k market buy on finexc
[2016-06-09 15:48:33] ggwp : ah
[2016-06-09 15:48:45] ggwp : I added then
[2016-06-09 15:48:52] ggwp : ;)
[2016-06-09 15:49:13] sleger : i covered everything and reentered an hour later but smaller
[2016-06-09 15:49:35] ggwp : playing it safe :D
[2016-06-09 15:56:02] ggwp : last call to flip it toplongers ;)
[2016-06-09 15:57:15] BTCDJS : ggwp: ok Im flipping.
[2016-06-09 16:00:19] ggwp : not gonna try to convince any more
[2016-06-09 16:00:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: sorry mate. Im defecting
[2016-06-09 16:00:49] BTCDJS : ggwp: stop being a wise guy
[2016-06-09 16:01:43] ggwp : hehe
[2016-06-09 16:01:47] BTCDJS : 1d chart says down to me.
[2016-06-09 16:01:49] sq : lol
[2016-06-09 16:01:53] ggwp : but I am
[2016-06-09 16:01:57] sq : yeah quite a bearish chart imho
[2016-06-09 16:02:15] j8 : next 24 hours are prime fakeout chopzone.
[2016-06-09 16:02:28] arbitrage001 : let's all jump on the bear badnwagon
[2016-06-09 16:02:35] arbitrage001 : bandwaagon
[2016-06-09 16:03:51] ggwp : no chop chop imo
[2016-06-09 16:07:04] BTCDJS : DAO and LSK are itching to move. I think BTC pump is on hold for a bit.
[2016-06-09 16:07:38] ggwp : +1
[2016-06-09 16:08:11] BTCDJS : at least Ill make some profit on liskin the meantime
[2016-06-09 16:08:25] BTCDJS : and Ill short BTC
[2016-06-09 16:09:16] Rasign : BTCDJS: ahaha you change your mind ?
[2016-06-09 16:09:27] BTCDJS : Rasign: yes did you miss the memo?
[2016-06-09 16:09:40] BTCDJS : I change when market changes
[2016-06-09 16:09:50] Rasign : 1hours ago : you said we long and we know exacly what we are doing
[2016-06-09 16:10:04] Rasign : i want to say
[2016-06-09 16:10:13] BTCDJS : Rasign: do me a favour please mate
[2016-06-09 16:10:26] Rasign : you are a sheep
[2016-06-09 16:10:50] Rasign : rename :"BTC sheep"
[2016-06-09 16:11:11] BTCDJS : Rasign: would you please do me a favour mate
[2016-06-09 16:11:17] Rasign : yes ?
[2016-06-09 16:11:23] Mr Blue : lol looks like its going back 580 to me, but what do I know ;-)
[2016-06-09 16:11:26] BTCDJS : shut the f*ck up
[2016-06-09 16:11:35] Rasign : oh dude
[2016-06-09 16:11:40] Rasign : that agressive
[2016-06-09 16:12:07] BTCDJS : two in one day lol
[2016-06-09 16:13:18] Rasign : Are you sure this time what you are doing ?
[2016-06-09 16:13:33] Rasign : do you change your draw ?
[2016-06-09 16:13:45] Rasign : he was looking very nice
[2016-06-09 16:14:02] BTCDJS : Rasign: we are going up to 580s then down.
[2016-06-09 16:14:27] ggwp : this is the short entry
[2016-06-09 16:14:34] ggwp : no 580s sorry
[2016-06-09 16:14:44] BTCDJS : Rasign: I look at charts mate. And I change when the time is right
[2016-06-09 16:14:54] Rasign : BTCDJS: you change too late
[2016-06-09 16:14:58] Rasign : you lost money
[2016-06-09 16:15:02] ggwp : as I said: 3850
[2016-06-09 16:15:10] ggwp : *3835
[2016-06-09 16:15:41] BTCDJS : Rasign: you are correct. A gold star for you.
[2016-06-09 16:15:50] Rasign : thx m8
[2016-06-09 16:15:58] fww : ggwp: what 3835 means?
[2016-06-09 16:15:59] BTCDJS : My ego doesn't stand in my way. Im am flexible
[2016-06-09 16:16:08] Rasign : like your position :D
[2016-06-09 16:16:09] ggwp : fww: yuan
[2016-06-09 16:16:25] fww : thanks :)
[2016-06-09 16:18:08] Rasign : BTCDJS: anyway if you want some coaching ask me :) i will help you next time
[2016-06-09 16:18:54] BTCDJS : Rasign: lol You mischievous little devil. I bet you're fun to go out on the drink with
[2016-06-09 16:19:31] Rasign : BTCDJS: thx m8
[2016-06-09 16:19:41] BTCDJS : Rasign: where do you live?
[2016-06-09 16:19:45] Rasign : France
[2016-06-09 16:19:54] BTCDJS : Rasign: oh yeah
[2016-06-09 16:20:03] Rasign : and you ?
[2016-06-09 16:20:52] BTCDJS : uk
[2016-06-09 16:21:59] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: you make Bitcoin music? I think Bitcoin baron is okay.
[2016-06-09 16:22:17] BTCDJS : huh
[2016-06-09 16:22:51] ggwp : he's asking if you're a BTC DJ
[2016-06-09 16:23:01] Mr Blue : lol yep
[2016-06-09 16:23:26] BTCDJS : Ha Ha
[2016-06-09 16:24:36] Rasign : BTCDJS: oh nice, i go to UK this summer
[2016-06-09 16:24:48] BTCDJS : where about?
[2016-06-09 16:24:57] Rasign : maybe we could take a beer together ahahaha
[2016-06-09 16:25:26] Rasign : i go to oxford improve my shitty english
[2016-06-09 16:26:23] ggwp : just don't become an Oxfraud
[2016-06-09 16:26:54] BTCDJS : sure if you're coming to the north east.
[2016-06-09 16:27:09] BTCDJS : gotta go. having dinner at in laws
[2016-06-09 16:27:32] Rasign : ggwp: ^^
[2016-06-09 16:27:49] ggwp : BTCDJS: good luck :D
[2016-06-09 17:26:13] sq : wow the volume is pretty low today w china on holiday
[2016-06-09 17:26:21] sq : i tot us hours might pick up
[2016-06-09 17:30:58] sleger : why did you tot ?
[2016-06-09 17:31:50] yerb : can someone explain funding fee
[2016-06-09 17:31:50] sq : expected a larger US trading presence than this
[2016-06-09 17:32:08] yerb : why do we have funding fee when we trade among eachother
[2016-06-09 17:32:49] yerb : its not like there is a swap market here
[2016-06-09 17:33:00] ggwp : why does bitmex even still carry a50?
[2016-06-09 17:33:20] ggwp : that's my question
[2016-06-09 17:34:03] ggwp : and why doesn't bitmex advertise itself more?
[2016-06-09 17:34:37] sleger : funding fee goes to the other trader not the exchange
[2016-06-09 17:35:13] yerb : but why, i dont like this fee structure, what is the purpose?
[2016-06-09 17:35:27] sleger : replicate margin trading
[2016-06-09 17:36:02] sleger : if you dont like it dont put a ring on it
[2016-06-09 17:36:31] aethlios : yerb: because the swap never settles, the short side needs a reason to let the long people use 20 leverage.
[2016-06-09 17:37:08] yerb : hmm, but short side uses leverage too, doesnt that equals it out?
[2016-06-09 17:37:36] yerb : *equalize
[2016-06-09 17:38:12] aethlios : yerb: dollar depreciates rapidly against btc. why someone to be short in btc??? If the long don't compensate him he kas no reason.
[2016-06-09 17:38:18] sleger : look at bitfinex, doesnt cost the same to short or long
[2016-06-09 17:38:31] sleger : aethlios: no that's not the reason
[2016-06-09 17:39:14] yerb : yeah and there is no funding providers, like finex
[2016-06-09 17:39:27] sleger : yes, the shorts
[2016-06-09 17:39:33] yerb : i guess i dont get it
[2016-06-09 17:39:36] aethlios : sleger: it's the same like holding rubles. or old drachma. if a currency depreciates 20% per year and you collect zero interest, then noone would hold it.
[2016-06-09 17:39:50] sleger : no
[2016-06-09 17:40:10] yerb : but we dont hold fiat here, we hold only BTC
[2016-06-09 17:40:18] ggwp : aethelios are you trolling perhaps?
[2016-06-09 17:40:19] j8 : USD lending rates are higher than BTC lending rates, futures are higher than spot. in order for the swap to track the spot price longs need to pay
[2016-06-09 17:40:24] yerb : it makes no sense to me
[2016-06-09 17:40:33] ggwp : just read the faq
[2016-06-09 17:40:55] aethlios : yerb: what did you have before holding btc?? maybe usd?? then you are short usd and long btc.
[2016-06-09 17:41:09] yerb : yeah
[2016-06-09 17:41:24] yerb : but what does that have to do with bitmex
[2016-06-09 17:41:35] aethlios : yerb: why you did the exchange from usd to btc??
[2016-06-09 17:41:35] lockhedge : yerb: if you short XBTUSD at 1x you have synthetic USD and earn interest
[2016-06-09 17:41:46] QuantFocus : Hey guys, any admin around?
[2016-06-09 17:41:51] ggwp : lol aethlios
[2016-06-09 17:43:40] aethlios : yerb: you did that because you expect btc to appreciate. If I go against you and short btc, basically I sell btc and hold usd, in order to do that I want an interest for the expected depreciation of usd against btc.
[2016-06-09 17:44:29] yerb : but, wtf, there is on USD here
[2016-06-09 17:44:31] sleger : no still wrong reason
[2016-06-09 17:44:43] sleger : lockhedge explained you as well as j8
[2016-06-09 17:44:47] ggwp : aethlios is doing some advanced trolling
[2016-06-09 17:44:57] sleger : no he just doesnt understand
[2016-06-09 17:45:05] yerb : uwe are just speculationg on the movement o the price, only BTC changes hands thats all
[2016-06-09 17:45:32] ggwp : btc only changes hands at settlement/rebalance
[2016-06-09 17:45:52] yerb : there is no USD
[2016-06-09 17:46:12] ggwp : what do we trade against then?
[2016-06-09 17:46:18] ggwp : btcusd
[2016-06-09 17:46:25] elmorte : There's a bband called 1D?
[2016-06-09 17:46:31] aethlios : yerb: lol, it's a pair, like eur/usd
[2016-06-09 17:46:33] yerb : against each other positioms
[2016-06-09 17:46:34] ggwp : the contracts are valued at 1 usd
[2016-06-09 17:46:42] ggwp : each
[2016-06-09 17:46:56] ggwp : ok, what are you asking again?
[2016-06-09 17:48:09] ggwp : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-06-09 17:48:13] ggwp : just read all this
[2016-06-09 17:48:47] ggwp : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-06-09 17:48:53] ggwp : or just this
[2016-06-09 17:49:02] QuantFocus : I think what @yerb is getting at is that there is no physical USD held on the exchange.
[2016-06-09 17:49:11] QuantFocus : Which is fine, as it is a synthetic USD position...
[2016-06-09 17:49:29] ggwp : yeah
[2016-06-09 17:50:25] j8 : yerb: if you could long bitcoin with no expiry with zero interest, it would be a better deal for longs than any other bitcoin market. so everyone would do it and there would be a big premium and no reason for it to decrease. but the point is for it to trade like spot, that includes funding costs
[2016-06-09 17:50:56] sleger : yes but there is no usd here only bitcoins
[2016-06-09 17:51:02] sleger : (just trolling as well)
[2016-06-09 17:51:02] elmorte : j8: cheers.
[2016-06-09 17:51:22] ggwp : j8: more or less yep
[2016-06-09 17:51:57] elmorte : Does that mean that in a falling market, funding fees would reverse?
[2016-06-09 17:52:35] elmorte : Can't really wrap my head around it
[2016-06-09 17:52:36] j8 : yes, but it's been a long time since we've seen btc lending rates higher than usd other than the odd spike maybe
[2016-06-09 17:52:41] yerb : lets say i dont want to collect fee, so the guy on the other side doesn't need to pay, wouldn't the market work the same in this case
[2016-06-09 17:53:02] ggwp : no option like that?
[2016-06-09 17:53:32] j8 : why wouldn't you want to collect fees
[2016-06-09 17:53:51] yerb : cuz the next day when i long i dont wanna pay
[2016-06-09 17:54:00] ggwp : anyone here trade on coinut before?
[2016-06-09 17:54:07] j8 : elmorte: the negative situation happens on ETHUSD sometimes
[2016-06-09 17:54:20] j8 : i mean ETHXBT
[2016-06-09 17:54:29] ggwp : the bitcoin options platform
[2016-06-09 17:54:45] elmorte : j8: ah, right.
[2016-06-09 17:55:23] elmorte : Yes, I went thru all the available contracts here few hoots ago, ethxbt had longs collecting
[2016-06-09 17:55:39] ggwp : Funding fees change based on market lending rates.
[2016-06-09 17:55:50] ggwp : just read the fees part
[2016-06-09 17:56:19] elmorte : I know how they're calculated, just wanted to figure out the logic behind it
[2016-06-09 17:56:27] elmorte : Or the principle
[2016-06-09 17:56:42] ggwp : basically what j8 said
[2016-06-09 17:56:53] elmorte : You know, man...fish...eat
[2016-06-09 18:36:48] rmateo : Hi
[2016-06-09 18:39:52] ggwp : hey
[2016-06-09 18:40:09] rmateo : where you from?
[2016-06-09 18:41:38] ggwp : Poland, how about you?
[2016-06-09 18:42:20] rmateo : Chile
[2016-06-09 18:42:39] ggwp : interesting, how is the situation there?
[2016-06-09 18:42:44] rmateo : Nice country is Poland
[2016-06-09 18:43:15] ggwp : yes; quite nice
[2016-06-09 18:43:42] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Poland rocks
[2016-06-09 18:44:05] rmateo : somebody from Latinoamerica here?
[2016-06-09 18:44:11] ggwp : :D, have you lived here?
[2016-06-09 18:44:23] Niatro : yes we are 2 from there
[2016-06-09 18:44:42] ggwp : @BitMEX_Sam or just toured it?
[2016-06-09 18:44:56] BitMEX_Sam : My wife is Polish and we go every year or two
[2016-06-09 18:45:10] rmateo : No...i visited poland last year
[2016-06-09 18:46:42] ggwp : very nice! I assume she's showed you around the country pretty well
[2016-06-09 18:47:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yep. Love it, lots to see and the roads are getting less murderous every year
[2016-06-09 18:48:17] Niatro : eeyy Sam, planing some new webminar?
[2016-06-09 18:49:05] BTCDJS : Well that's an interesting turn of events
[2016-06-09 18:50:03] ggwp : haha yeah... we're working on that - slowly but surely. But now with the ugly situation with the EU progress might slow a bit.
[2016-06-09 18:50:19] BTCDJS : ggwp: you are our team leader. The meanest bear in the gaff. Care to explain what's happening here chief?
[2016-06-09 18:50:19] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! Was wondering if there is a preferred method to contact you all about working with BitMEX?
[2016-06-09 18:50:54] BitMEX_Sam : QuantFocus: Via email is the best way, info@bitmex.com will reach all of us.
[2016-06-09 18:51:07] BitMEX_Sam : Niatro: Not yet, although one is certainly due for the Swaps.
[2016-06-09 18:51:11] ggwp : BTCDJS: bots pushing up the price before the next dump I suppose
[2016-06-09 18:51:22] ggwp : nothing to worry about imo
[2016-06-09 18:51:49] QuantFocus : @BitMEX_Sam: All right, great! Thanks ahead, I'll shoot an email out shortly.
[2016-06-09 18:52:04] BTCDJS : ggwp: ok cos you have a reputation to keep.
[2016-06-09 18:52:16] BitMEX_Sam : QuantFocus: :+1:
[2016-06-09 18:52:16] Niatro : waiting for swaps, some calculations I just can not understand deeply
[2016-06-09 18:52:37] ggwp : BTCDJS: hehe, yeah - just realised that.
[2016-06-09 18:52:59] ggwp : but I have vested interested so no need to worry
[2016-06-09 18:53:05] ggwp : *interest
[2016-06-09 18:53:07] BTCDJS : ggwp: yup it's all on you.
[2016-06-09 18:53:10] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-06-09 18:53:23] BTCDJS : nah it's happening as I said anyway
[2016-06-09 18:53:45] ggwp : hm?
[2016-06-09 18:54:45] BTCDJS : ggwp: don't hm me. You know what I said. We hit 580s first.
[2016-06-09 18:55:17] ggwp : haha, but you actually shorted where I said or were you pulling my leg?
[2016-06-09 18:56:11] BTCDJS : I'm shorting from 580s
[2016-06-09 18:56:31] BTCDJS : I'm not stupid
[2016-06-09 18:57:15] BTCDJS : 15m chart was bullish. But 1d chart is def not looking too bullish
[2016-06-09 18:57:30] ggwp : I doubt you'll get 580s
[2016-06-09 18:57:49] BTCDJS : 581 just happened
[2016-06-09 18:58:01] ggwp : here, yeah
[2016-06-09 18:58:05] ggwp : not on spot
[2016-06-09 18:58:17] BTCDJS : ggwp: I'm talking about here
[2016-06-09 18:58:24] ggwp : kk
[2016-06-09 18:58:26] BTCDJS : im trading here
[2016-06-09 20:53:38] wingman : short BTC now and make money
[2016-06-09 20:53:43] wingman : doom is coming
[2016-06-09 20:56:12] Rasign : Sheeps are wake up, we called it since 19990
[2016-06-09 20:56:30] Rasign : 1990
[2016-06-09 20:56:48] ggwp : +1
[2016-06-09 20:56:54] BTCDJS : Rasign: no we were in a bull market. Now its turning. don't flatter yourself
[2016-06-09 20:57:25] Rasign : I flatte myself
[2016-06-09 20:57:32] Rasign : cause i'm right
[2016-06-09 20:58:01] ggwp : did you squeeze your short in yet @BTCDJS
[2016-06-09 20:58:04] BTCDJS : Rasign: you could have been wrong. Today was the right time to make the call
[2016-06-09 20:58:13] BTCDJS : ggwp: yes
[2016-06-09 20:58:22] ggwp : it was pretty obvious 3 days ago
[2016-06-09 20:58:29] Rasign : yes dude
[2016-06-09 20:58:36] BTCDJS : ggwp: no it wasnt
[2016-06-09 20:58:39] ggwp : albeit risky
[2016-06-09 20:58:54] ggwp : I wanted to short when we first hit 593
[2016-06-09 20:59:01] Rasign : if you watched 1d chart
[2016-06-09 20:59:28] BTCDJS : Rasign: 1d chart wasn't conclusive yesterday . today it is
[2016-06-09 20:59:44] Rasign : it wasn't sure at 100 %
[2016-06-09 20:59:48] ggwp : it's never "conclusive"
[2016-06-09 20:59:50] Rasign : but 75 %
[2016-06-09 20:59:53] Rasign : sure
[2016-06-09 20:59:55] Mr Blue : bull market isnt over by a long shot, not even reached block reward halving yet, best shorters can hope for is a $30 drop in my opinion.
[2016-06-09 21:00:19] BTCDJS : You losers think you changed peoples mind. But people make up their own mind if they know what they are doing
[2016-06-09 21:00:32] ggwp : lol man
[2016-06-09 21:00:56] ggwp : you sound pissed
[2016-06-09 21:01:00] ggwp : why?
[2016-06-09 21:01:21] Rasign : BTCDJS: i think you should buy some balls at super market
[2016-06-09 21:01:23] ggwp : literally no reason to be mad
[2016-06-09 21:01:28] BTCDJS : Im not pissed. I just think you shouldn't grab credit for people thinking for themselves
[2016-06-09 21:01:51] ggwp : and how did I do that exactly?
[2016-06-09 21:01:52] Mr Blue : lol im currently short my self -5000 at 579.19
[2016-06-09 21:02:19] Rasign : gg MR.Blue
[2016-06-09 21:02:24] ggwp : besides, why would I want to think for you?
[2016-06-09 21:02:25] Mr Blue : but by no means would I say we're out of a bull market
[2016-06-09 21:02:50] BTCDJS : ggwp: Im just saying.
[2016-06-09 21:03:21] ggwp : have I insulted you in some unbeknownst way?
[2016-06-09 21:03:33] BTCDJS : ggwp: nope
[2016-06-09 21:04:31] BTCDJS : ggwp: You and me are sound mate. We have banter and even though you take a different position you are still cool
[2016-06-09 21:04:35] Mr Blue : Rasign: i'll take $2 profit on each if it drops, then probably be back in the positive with you mate
[2016-06-09 21:05:31] Rasign : do like me, x33 ether
[2016-06-09 21:05:41] Rasign : long
[2016-06-09 21:06:38] ggwp : BTCDJS: Good to hear :) but I still don't entirely get what you're aiming at w/ me "claiming credit"
[2016-06-09 21:06:54] ggwp : Rasign: ether might not rocket this time
[2016-06-09 21:07:02] ggwp : but it shouldn't fall either
[2016-06-09 21:07:12] BTCDJS : ggwp: not specifically aimed at you mate
[2016-06-09 21:07:16] ggwp : hype is slowly seceding
[2016-06-09 21:07:27] Rasign : ggwp: that what you think, not what i'm thinking
[2016-06-09 21:07:27] ggwp : BTCDJS: k
[2016-06-09 21:07:43] ggwp : Rasign: sure, just sharing my take
[2016-06-09 21:07:45] Rasign : people are sheep they will crash btc and buy this shitty eth
[2016-06-09 21:08:07] Rasign : they will see crash btc
[2016-06-09 21:09:17] Rasign : in fact i have already 150% profit on my position so ...
[2016-06-09 21:09:57] ggwp : very nice :)
[2016-06-09 21:10:11] Rasign : cool stuff but i want more
[2016-06-09 21:12:41] Mr Blue : why will people crash BTC for something with an infinite supply?? fiaterium lol o.j if you make profit good, but my opinion Bitcoin will always be the gold standard of crypto
[2016-06-09 21:13:19] Rasign : when i say crash
[2016-06-09 21:13:22] Rasign : he's a dump
[2016-06-09 21:13:27] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: BTC aint gonna crash mate. Just a correction
[2016-06-09 21:14:12] Mr Blue : Rasign: @BTCDJS well would be nice as I'm short lol, but not hoping for a big one my self
[2016-06-09 21:14:19] BTCDJS : but a little higher is possible before that happens
[2016-06-09 21:15:43] ggwp : lsk retracing as expected
[2016-06-09 21:16:16] ggwp : i doubt @jung1 will see his 100+ this weekend
[2016-06-09 21:17:42] BTCDJS : LSK will reach 0.001 while BTC is correcting
[2016-06-09 21:18:32] ggwp : we can bet on that
[2016-06-09 21:18:36] ggwp : if you want
[2016-06-09 21:34:48] Rasign : BTCDJS: lol
[2016-06-09 21:34:58] Rasign : he will not
[2016-06-09 21:55:52] rentchev : I thought BTCDJS was saying that BTC will not correct
[2016-06-09 21:55:57] rentchev : and it's going to $650
[2016-06-09 21:56:55] Rasign : lot of shit was saying this last day
[2016-06-09 21:58:14] BTCDJS : rentchev: do you stay the same when the market changes? or do you change with it?
[2016-06-09 22:00:13] Rasign : BTCDJS: i cahnge my mind but i don't forget to congrats the guy who call it and i suck his balls
[2016-06-09 22:00:47] BTCDJS : Rasign: you can suck my balls
[2016-06-09 22:01:06] Rasign : BTCDJS: you didn't call it ?
[2016-06-09 22:01:18] Rasign : you say 650
[2016-06-09 22:01:40] BTCDJS : Rasign: nothing is written in stone. we may still be wrong
[2016-06-09 22:01:57] micmix : you guys are switching positions couple times per day, you will just end up paying tons of fees and giving money to the bots long-term
[2016-06-09 22:02:06] BTCDJS : but I'm agreeing more that it is changing
[2016-06-09 22:02:34] Rasign : micmix: i didn't change my plan
[2016-06-09 22:02:52] BTCDJS : OMG I don't normally get sucked into this stupid shit. But you guys have pulled me right in.
[2016-06-09 22:03:40] BTCDJS : no
[2016-06-09 22:04:02] ggwp : rapidtrades get the f*ck in here, it's troll hour!
[2016-06-09 22:04:08] BTCDJS : I pulled myself in when I took part in this stupid bull VS bear crap
[2016-06-09 22:04:23] BTCDJS : lesson learned
[2016-06-09 22:04:48] ggwp : makes no sense whatsoever to take this seriously
[2016-06-09 22:05:01] ggwp : just have a good time while making/losing $
[2016-06-09 22:05:06] BTCDJS : well I am now
[2016-06-09 22:05:22] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-09 22:05:36] BTCDJS : taking it seriously I mean
[2016-06-09 22:05:43] ggwp : :(
[2016-06-09 22:05:58] BTCDJS : you fucking wankers got right under my skin
[2016-06-09 22:06:22] ggwp : you are fucking wankers?
[2016-06-09 22:06:33] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-09 22:06:53] ggwp : hehe
[2016-06-09 22:07:10] ggwp : thick skin is a life skill
[2016-06-09 22:09:31] micmix : ggwp: where is the dump you promised ppl yesterday?
[2016-06-09 22:11:08] ggwp : around the corner
[2016-06-09 22:11:15] ggwp : patience
[2016-06-09 22:11:19] ggwp : my god
[2016-06-09 22:12:18] micmix : {"id":158050,"date":"2016-06-09T08:18:51.392Z","user":"micmix","message":"rapidtrades: I don't think we'll see major moves until okc weekly closes on Thursday","html":"rapidtrades: I don't think we'll see major moves until okc weekly closes on Thursday\n","fromBot":false}
[2016-06-09 22:12:31] micmix : {"id":158055,"date":"2016-06-09T08:32:25.027Z","user":"ggwp","message":"dump day is around the corner","html":"dump day is around the corner\n","fromBot":false}
[2016-06-09 22:12:45] ggwp : yep
[2016-06-09 22:12:51] micmix : {"id":158060,"date":"2016-06-09T08:35:23.104Z","user":"ggwp","message":"woot","html":"woot\n","fromBot":false},{"id":158061,"date":"2016-06-09T08:35:26.101Z","user":"ggwp","message":"there we go","html":"there we go\n","fromBot":false}
[2016-06-09 22:13:00] ggwp : we're still on that page
[2016-06-09 22:13:18] ggwp : a little spam now and then never hurt anyone
[2016-06-09 22:13:21] micmix : {"id":158062,"date":"2016-06-09T08:41:21.305Z","user":"micmix","message":"nah, we will stay in range, bots need to eat too :smile:","html":"nah, we will stay in range, bots need to eat too ?\n","fromBot":false}
[2016-06-09 22:13:57] ggwp : you didn't even mention what range
[2016-06-09 22:16:26] micmix : 3-4% in bitcoin is just noise
[2016-06-09 22:17:01] micmix : anyway, you have my permission to go back to trolling :smile:
[2016-06-09 22:18:31] ggwp : daily close soon
[2016-06-09 22:18:42] ggwp : we might see a bit of chinese f*ckery
[2016-06-09 22:23:16] BTCDJS : Lol at fucking wankers
[2016-06-09 22:23:41] BTCDJS : thats pretty funny
[2016-06-09 22:36:47] ggwp : :D good night all
[2016-06-10 04:17:46] huangyong : 管理员,每8小时的利率计算,貌似不对呀
[2016-06-10 04:18:49] huangyong : 每8个小时的xbt利率应该是0.050%除以3,你们没有除以3吧
[2016-06-10 04:28:56] j8 : Funding: 0.0142% in 8 hours @huangyong
[2016-06-10 04:32:06] huangyong : j8: 是的
[2016-06-10 04:34:26] micmix : lisk: 1 btc 24h volume, dao: 1.2 btc. I thought ppl would trade much more, it's supposed to be hot
[2016-06-10 04:40:59] j8 : and poloniex doesn't have margin trading on either. i guess people don't really know about it
[2016-06-10 04:43:00] micmix : main MM posts really small quotes on both, that's probably part of the problem
[2016-06-10 04:44:28] j8 : and they can't short to hedge for now anyway
[2016-06-10 05:41:05] daoist : bulls are tired ? https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LSKBTC/k2nsm8Q4-LSK-QUICK-PREDICTION/
[2016-06-10 06:31:55] BTCDJS : ggwp: this is tightening up just like me and rapid were saying. Price moving above and bellow 578. Closed my short. im not convinced. So I'm just going to watch.
[2016-06-10 06:33:46] ggwp : #weakhands ;)
[2016-06-10 06:36:50] zanza : RIP Spam Users
[2016-06-10 06:41:49] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-06-10 06:42:05] BitMEX_Wally : They can still spam the order book, they'll just be hidden and pay the taker fee for the privilege
[2016-06-10 06:51:03] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: I like the way you guys think
[2016-06-10 06:53:45] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: trollbox spam?
[2016-06-10 06:53:46] xzsd : LETS PUMP LISK GUYS
[2016-06-10 06:53:48] xzsd : COME ON
[2016-06-10 06:54:08] xzsd : srry for capslock
[2016-06-10 06:54:54] micmix : ah, you were talking about 1 contract order spam
[2016-06-10 06:55:30] xzsd : GOGOG
[2016-06-10 06:57:38] wingman : too many scams, not enough money
[2016-06-10 06:58:57] ggwp : huh?
[2016-06-10 07:01:54] BitMEX_Wally : The trollbox is relatively spam fee
[2016-06-10 07:01:55] BitMEX_Wally : free
[2016-06-10 07:02:39] BitMEX_Wally : Someone once complained to support about a your mom joke
[2016-06-10 07:02:45] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: is it ok to have 2-4 small orders? sometimes I'm testing new algo with small sizes
[2016-06-10 07:03:16] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Yes, 4 small orders is fine
[2016-06-10 07:03:57] micmix : ok, I see 0.01xbt, my small orders are about 0.1xbt
[2016-06-10 07:04:11] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-06-10 07:05:03] micmix : complain to support about mom jokes? nice
[2016-06-10 07:05:40] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Can you guess who insulted his mother?
[2016-06-10 07:05:59] micmix : starts with rapid and ends with trades?
[2016-06-10 07:06:09] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2016-06-10 07:06:22] micmix : lol
[2016-06-10 07:06:58] micmix : well rapid even wanted to have sex with my dead mother
[2016-06-10 07:08:52] BitMEX_Wally : I guess he can't get better
[2016-06-10 07:11:31] micmix : he's not that bad, you can get used to him :smile:
[2016-06-10 07:12:15] ggwp : he's childish
[2016-06-10 07:16:49] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: are you still planning on coming back with the 100x?
[2016-06-10 07:18:37] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Yes, we are working on getting the premium down first
[2016-06-10 07:19:30] ggwp : awesome
[2016-06-10 07:32:49] BTCDJS : ggwp: you still short?
[2016-06-10 07:32:55] ggwp : yes
[2016-06-10 07:33:26] BTCDJS : ggwp: in a few minutes we will find out if that is a good or bad thing
[2016-06-10 07:34:26] ggwp : a little exit pump never hurt anyone
[2016-06-10 07:35:44] BTCDJS : ggwp: ok. Stick to your guns.
[2016-06-10 07:38:00] ggwp : https://s3.amazonaws.com/tradingview/snapshots/e/EFsuQ8Zg.png
[2016-06-10 07:38:05] ggwp : a chart from the old guard
[2016-06-10 07:44:50] BTCDJS : That's what you're going by? There's a difference. The circle on the left is drawn on an already bear market. The one on the right is in a bull market. Here I've got one for you too https://twitter.com/plumptoiletduck/status/740881329114517505
[2016-06-10 07:47:24] ggwp : it's not what I'm going by
[2016-06-10 07:47:35] ggwp : just an interesting idea
[2016-06-10 07:48:02] BTCDJS : not really. for reasons I've just stated
[2016-06-10 07:48:03] ggwp : fractals are fractals
[2016-06-10 07:48:25] BTCDJS : a tree is a tree
[2016-06-10 07:48:29] ggwp : bull/bear doesn't rly matter
[2016-06-10 07:49:48] ggwp : what kind of authority is "@plumptoiletduck"? Anyway, that's a run-of-the-mill idea there
[2016-06-10 07:50:02] ggwp : and those rarely pan out
[2016-06-10 07:50:18] ggwp : just like shorting the spx recently
[2016-06-10 07:50:22] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-10 07:50:41] ggwp : settlement in 10 mins
[2016-06-10 07:51:10] ggwp : expecting a dump
[2016-06-10 07:51:24] BTCDJS : ggwp: Look I agree with the fact that the 1d chart looks a bit bearish. caution is needed. it could go either way. but so far my original trade plan is playing out. Apart from that dump we had yesterday.
[2016-06-10 07:53:14] Rasign : i closed my eth long, boring market
[2016-06-10 07:53:23] Rasign : i come back with you on btc
[2016-06-10 07:53:31] ggwp : didn't I tell you ;)
[2016-06-10 07:53:38] Rasign : yes^^
[2016-06-10 07:53:56] Rasign : but not over just wait and see :D
[2016-06-10 07:54:15] ggwp : yeah, eth/fiat might do a big move soon
[2016-06-10 07:54:50] Rasign : i just couldn't sleep yesterday cause my fucking leverage, so i close it ^^
[2016-06-10 07:55:53] ggwp : made some good profit probably
[2016-06-10 07:56:02] Rasign : yes but loose a lot profit
[2016-06-10 07:56:10] Rasign : i don't like to loose huge profit
[2016-06-10 07:56:20] BTCDJS : http://www.tradingview.com/x/jcPXGZgi According to Mr bollinger himself. This is indicative of a movement in price going up
[2016-06-10 07:57:01] Rasign : BTCDJS: can you make your own decision or you try to find someone trade for you ?
[2016-06-10 07:57:18] Rasign : send me your money if you try to find a guys
[2016-06-10 08:01:37] BTCDJS : Rasign: you short?
[2016-06-10 08:01:56] Rasign : i'm trying to open a position ^^
[2016-06-10 08:02:15] BTCDJS : to long or short?
[2016-06-10 08:02:49] Rasign : short one i think
[2016-06-10 08:03:06] BTCDJS : good
[2016-06-10 08:03:25] Rasign : is my plan since few days
[2016-06-10 08:04:03] wurstgelee : u noticed its okc settlement time, right?
[2016-06-10 08:04:30] wurstgelee : new quarterlies as well this time
[2016-06-10 08:04:36] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: just leave it mate.
[2016-06-10 08:04:44] BTCDJS : hes shorting
[2016-06-10 08:06:26] Rasign : wurstgelee: yes and then ?
[2016-06-10 08:06:45] wurstgelee : nvm.... oO
[2016-06-10 08:06:51] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-06-10 08:07:03] Blargwaffle : Wally, Arthur, if you do introduce options you could drop the futures as the options could emulate them.
[2016-06-10 08:08:11] Rasign : a bounce never kill people and make you better short
[2016-06-10 08:09:17] BitMEX_Arthur : Blargwaffle: options is a serious undertaking
[2016-06-10 08:09:29] Blargwaffle : Indeed, hence the if.
[2016-06-10 08:09:52] BitMEX_Arthur : eventually we will get there I just don't know if there is enough demand yet to warrant the effort
[2016-06-10 08:10:24] ggwp : looking at the volume on coinut, doesn't look like there is
[2016-06-10 08:10:47] Blargwaffle : The effort to develop shouldn't change over time, just the effort to manage it live.
[2016-06-10 08:12:25] Blargwaffle : As for coinut, it has no foot in the door like Bitmex does with the swap.
[2016-06-10 08:18:00] BTCDJS : ALERT: Bitfinex volume just rose 929.0 BTC in the past 5 minutes #bitcoin
[2016-06-10 08:18:45] BTCDJS : NOTE: OKC Quarterlies has a BID order of 7740 Contracts in the book at 598.12 USD
[2016-06-10 08:21:35] lockhedge : BitMEX_Arthur: is the `.XBTUSDPI` index a lending rate based on the premium? https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI
[2016-06-10 08:21:48] micmix : yeah, will stay over $610 for now. it's not a lot actually, less than $20 premium
[2016-06-10 08:22:23] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-06-10 08:23:05] BitMEX_Arthur : lockhedge: yes
[2016-06-10 08:23:10] micmix : actually $25 premium
[2016-06-10 08:24:11] BitMEX_Arthur : we believe it will bring the swap in line with spot
[2016-06-10 08:24:24] BitMEX_Arthur : more testing is being done and we will announce how it will be used shortly
[2016-06-10 08:25:35] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: very interesting
[2016-06-10 08:26:59] micmix : IMHO will help MMs keep bigger short positions
[2016-06-10 08:29:39] Rasign : 2k btc shorting on quaterlies
[2016-06-10 08:30:14] ggwp : PONZI PUMP & DUMP LOLOLOL
[2016-06-10 08:30:24] Rasign : BTCDJS: do you ever try to tradre on coinut ?
[2016-06-10 08:30:26] ggwp : wuds habbenin guise
[2016-06-10 08:30:51] micmix : $25 premium on inverse futures is not a bad place to short
[2016-06-10 08:31:16] Rasign : micmix: if the market will go up it is
[2016-06-10 08:31:45] micmix : you have to hedge your position of course
[2016-06-10 08:31:59] Rasign : you have only x10 x20 on coinut
[2016-06-10 08:32:14] Rasign : but after with the cross margin you can stay a bit longer i think
[2016-06-10 08:34:33] ethexio : Pow
[2016-06-10 08:36:06] Rasign : BTCDJS: don't forget : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PObxnt7boys&index=12&list=PLBGlYBhqKB1kgw297vxx9F9mXJKzZj0Ph&shuffle=2868
[2016-06-10 08:36:15] Mr Blue : it will be pow pow when bitcoin hits $800 and what I assume you have = 0.012 lol