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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-08 12:08:39] Blargwaffle : There'd be a buy/sell market a roll market and a contingent market. [2016-06-08 12:08:49] Blargwaffle : Where the two latter are pretty similar. [2016-06-08 12:11:18] rapidtrades : aren't rolls for futures only? u can roll options afaik, u have to close/reopen? [2016-06-08 12:11:22] BitMEX_Wally : So you have 2 legs that you want to execute together, or not at all? [2016-06-08 12:11:30] Blargwaffle : Exactly. [2016-06-08 12:11:50] Blargwaffle : You can roll options to different strikes or dates. [2016-06-08 12:11:51] rapidtrades : all or nothing order [2016-06-08 12:12:19] BitMEX_Wally : If you have a hidden limit order we support an execInst of AllOrNone [2016-06-08 12:12:22] Blargwaffle : You could do partial fills on exact amounts or ratios. [2016-06-08 12:12:34] rapidtrades : Blargwaffle: by closing and re-opening you can roll yes [2016-06-08 12:13:02] Blargwaffle : Yes, technically, but I'm talking about a market where you can do that for one price. [2016-06-08 12:13:03] BitMEX_Wally : What about custom triggers? [2016-06-08 12:13:16] BitMEX_Wally : Like if the spot price goes above x then place an order to buy option at price y [2016-06-08 12:13:37] Blargwaffle : That seems more technical than I'm talking about, Wally. [2016-06-08 12:14:41] sleger : what he is talking about is trading A+B or A-B as one instrument and not two, like a spread [2016-06-08 12:14:45] Rasign : ggwp: you closed your short? really ? [2016-06-08 12:14:55] Blargwaffle : What sleger said. [2016-06-08 12:15:33] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah i know but I was asking if that's currently done in the options market..like on spy or whatever [2016-06-08 12:15:40] rapidtrades : cos i haven't encountered it [2016-06-08 12:15:41] Blargwaffle : Of course, you could still charge a fee for both legs. Options tend to have a per-ticket fee. [2016-06-08 12:18:32] BTCDJS : ggwp: welcome to the right side [2016-06-08 12:19:33] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's not long [2016-06-08 12:20:07] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: he just closed his short? [2016-06-08 12:20:43] rapidtrades : who knows, he never posted it here [2016-06-08 12:21:06] rapidtrades : he could've been raped on that push above 600 for all we know [2016-06-08 12:21:56] BTCDJS : i see [2016-06-08 12:39:44] ggwp : lol [2016-06-08 12:39:51] ggwp : nope [2016-06-08 12:40:02] ggwp : yes, I c [2016-06-08 12:40:05] ggwp : losed [2016-06-08 12:40:13] ggwp : not longing here though [2016-06-08 12:40:23] ggwp : might even reshort [2016-06-08 12:41:49] Rasign : ggwp: smart guys [2016-06-08 12:42:15] ggwp : wonder if sleger kept his [2016-06-08 12:42:36] ggwp : he seemed pretty confident about those low 500s [2016-06-08 12:46:32] BTCDJS : If I recall correctly. sleger said he opened a small short position. [2016-06-08 12:47:22] ggwp : yeah, at 590 or thereabouts [2016-06-08 12:48:22] BTCDJS : and if he closed at 570 he made the right decision [2016-06-08 12:48:59] ggwp : no, not necessarily [2016-06-08 12:49:15] ggwp : if my entry had been better I might have kept some open [2016-06-08 13:00:27] aethlios : swap spread to zero. When usd goes up, eur gold silver down, then pressure for yuan devaluation rises and btc pumps also china vs west spread rises. When usd down then opposite happens, because yuan is pegged to usd. [2016-06-08 13:01:06] aethlios : So we need to watch the FED carefully. [2016-06-08 13:16:29] rapidtrades : wtf....okc went down [2016-06-08 13:17:52] rapidtrades : back up [2016-06-08 13:34:52] sleger : all premiums went down so much so fast, weird [2016-06-08 13:37:07] rapidtrades : newb up is partially correct, it started when dollar crashed on friday [2016-06-08 13:37:15] Rasign : rapidtrades: ready to shit on your pant dude ? [2016-06-08 13:38:01] rapidtrades : u said smth b1tch? [2016-06-08 13:39:55] Rasign : rapidtrades: don't start to cry, you will have time to do this in the few days [2016-06-08 13:41:00] ggwp : this still looks like a short [2016-06-08 13:41:29] rapidtrades : well short then [2016-06-08 13:41:58] ggwp : at [2016-06-08 13:42:03] ggwp : least a scalp [2016-06-08 13:43:26] rapidtrades : are u short here? [2016-06-08 13:43:55] rapidtrades : so i can keep track of ur losses [2016-06-08 13:44:09] rapidtrades : u weasel [2016-06-08 13:44:10] ggwp : hehe [2016-06-08 13:44:33] rapidtrades : :) [2016-06-08 13:44:37] ggwp : I bet you participated in the VOX IC [2016-06-08 13:44:39] ggwp : O [2016-06-08 13:45:16] sleger : i bet jung1 did [2016-06-08 13:45:45] ggwp : ICO ma [2016-06-08 13:45:59] ggwp : *master? [2016-06-08 13:46:36] sleger : the rule is, if it's a new scam coin, stupid ico or whatever, most likely he went in [2016-06-08 13:46:49] rapidtrades : ...and made money [2016-06-08 13:47:02] sleger : on the chat yes [2016-06-08 13:47:06] ggwp : hahaha [2016-06-08 13:47:28] ggwp : Sollars were the shit [2016-06-08 13:47:35] sleger : he was claiming maid, factom, lisk are going to replace bitcoin [2016-06-08 13:47:40] ggwp : this black dude [2016-06-08 13:48:28] ggwp : https://medium.com/@sollarsandsense [2016-06-08 13:48:37] ggwp : ridiculo [2016-06-08 13:48:44] ggwp : *ridiculous [2016-06-08 13:49:21] rapidtrades : wtf is medium.com [2016-06-08 13:49:33] rapidtrades : is it like twitter for poor ppl [2016-06-08 13:49:59] ggwp : medium is cool [2016-06-08 13:50:23] ggwp : already in profit on my short [2016-06-08 13:50:31] ggwp : albeit a small one [2016-06-08 13:51:03] sleger : im short 200btc net ... [2016-06-08 13:51:24] ggwp : nice [2016-06-08 13:52:08] sleger : im wondering how many millions of dollars supermine would say it is... [2016-06-08 13:52:36] ggwp : :D [2016-06-08 13:53:53] ggwp : so your targeting the same range? [2016-06-08 13:54:01] ggwp : you're [2016-06-08 13:54:31] rapidtrades : sleger: where's ya stop fella [2016-06-08 13:54:46] sleger : what's a stop ? [2016-06-08 13:54:49] sleger : :D [2016-06-08 13:54:53] rapidtrades : exactly [2016-06-08 13:55:05] sleger : it's when my sentiment changes [2016-06-08 13:56:27] rapidtrades : we have a one man sentiment indicator OVER HERE [2016-06-08 14:29:15] Mr Blue : so we're now under the spot price here lol, ahh well I can wait lol [2016-06-08 14:29:57] ggwp : that says a lot [2016-06-08 14:30:21] Mr Blue : I know [2016-06-08 14:30:52] ggwp : I'm short [2016-06-08 14:30:55] ggwp : again [2016-06-08 14:34:05] Mr Blue : I've set sells at 581+ only 1200 contracts at 579, starting over but playing with only profits at the moment so I can go very long if need be [2016-06-08 14:37:27] Rasign : rapidtrades: you keep your long ?. [2016-06-08 14:38:57] Mr Blue : in fact seen as I've set sells, talk later guys got some other business to attend to. [2016-06-08 15:08:24] BTCDJS : Rasign: of course he's long. Only a fool would short. unless you're shorting the small drops. [2016-06-08 15:08:50] Rasign : Im long on eth. More the btc crash more im happy [2016-06-08 15:09:06] BTCDJS : oh ok [2016-06-08 15:09:07] ggwp : how long has rapid even been here? [2016-06-08 15:09:29] sleger : much more than you guys [2016-06-08 15:10:41] ggwp : early 2016? [2016-06-08 15:11:21] sleger : more [2016-06-08 15:11:58] rentchev : where do you see what date you joined? [2016-06-08 15:12:00] tscha : rapid was already there when I showed up and that was october 2015 [2016-06-08 15:12:20] ggwp : cool [2016-06-08 15:14:34] BTCDJS : i think he's been here since the dawn of time. I remember when the UI changed he commented about it. I got the impression he's been here since nearly the beginning of bitmex [2016-06-08 15:14:49] rentchev : another leg down starting? [2016-06-08 15:15:13] ggwp : yep [2016-06-08 15:15:27] ggwp : should get to 540 this time [2016-06-08 15:15:33] ggwp : reshorted [2016-06-08 15:15:46] rentchev : That was my target as well [2016-06-08 15:15:52] BTCDJS : nah. we are moving above and bellow 578 in a choppy fashion for a while before we go up [2016-06-08 15:15:53] rentchev : has support there [2016-06-08 15:16:09] rentchev : we shall see BTCDJS [2016-06-08 15:16:49] BTCDJS : rentchev: indeed [2016-06-08 15:19:03] ggwp : BTCDJS: ty [2016-06-08 15:19:11] ggwp : for the info [2016-06-08 15:22:08] j8 : first chat messages from rapidtrades are from nov 11 2015 [2016-06-08 15:22:35] tscha : j8: and "tschavatschigger"? [2016-06-08 15:22:54] tscha : maybe it was november and not october when I started [2016-06-08 15:23:00] BTCDJS : did he change his name? [2016-06-08 15:23:16] tscha : no, I did [2016-06-08 15:23:17] j8 : tscha: case sensitive? [2016-06-08 15:23:31] tscha : Tschavatschigger I think [2016-06-08 15:23:55] tscha : TschavaTschigger [2016-06-08 15:24:03] BTCDJS : so did I. And rapid probably did as well [2016-06-08 15:24:30] j8 : ah, `date | 2015.10.06T16:12:55.521 user | `TschavaTschigger` [2016-06-08 15:24:54] tscha : hum, I had the feeling rapid was already there when I started... either I am wrong or he did change his name [2016-06-08 15:25:20] sleger : if history is any sign, you were wrong [2016-06-08 15:32:37] rentchev : we need a break of 570 [2016-06-08 15:37:33] BTCDJS : rentchev:http://www.tradingview.com/x/xTpfeYqr [2016-06-08 15:37:59] j8 : tscha: it's possible he had earlier messages which were deleted. wouldn't be that surprising [2016-06-08 15:41:25] sleger : yeah he loved to insult everyone's mama back then [2016-06-08 15:42:30] j8 : some new people may be surprised to hear, he's matured a lot since then [2016-06-08 15:42:43] ggwp : it still seems like he likes to do that [2016-06-08 15:44:24] rentchev : lol [2016-06-08 15:44:31] BTCDJS : ggwp: he does it for a laugh. And its amusing [2016-06-08 15:44:37] rentchev : we need to find him a girlfriend [2016-06-08 15:45:15] sleger : rentchev: so we can hear about her in the news when they find her cut into pieces in his basement ? [2016-06-08 15:45:28] rentchev : lol [2016-06-08 15:48:15] ggwp : amusing? welll, maybe I haven't been around long enough [2016-06-08 15:48:31] ggwp : he needs to leave 4chan [2016-06-08 15:49:04] ggwp : or wherever he spends his days [2016-06-08 15:49:33] rentchev : $1 spread on Bitfinex to big [2016-06-08 15:50:28] BTCDJS : ggwp: I think he is british. His humour is similar to NE england humour. [2016-06-08 15:52:40] sleger : but he says "halvening" [2016-06-08 15:53:19] BTCDJS : playing with words [2016-06-08 15:53:42] BTCDJS : just like we do here in the north east [2016-06-08 15:53:48] elmorte : j8: lol [2016-06-08 15:54:01] elmorte : Damn, we've converged...is it Friday? [2016-06-08 15:56:00] ggwp : any music recommendations? [2016-06-08 15:56:27] BTCDJS : new or old? [2016-06-08 15:56:52] elmorte : No, still listening to the 90s [2016-06-08 15:56:53] ggwp : rather old [2016-06-08 15:57:12] ggwp : not into electronic stuff really [2016-06-08 15:57:43] BTCDJS : ggwp:https://youtu.be/YSuHrTfcikU [2016-06-08 15:57:55] elmorte : Although it's getting kinda awkward listening to gangsta rap with a toddler [2016-06-08 15:57:57] BTCDJS : I've taken a liking to this one recently after london [2016-06-08 15:58:33] ggwp : I think you posted that once here [2016-06-08 15:58:41] BTCDJS : yeah I did [2016-06-08 15:58:53] ggwp : pretty good [2016-06-08 16:00:09] BTCDJS : ?? was even better loud in the Elephants head when the whole pub sang along loudly to it [2016-06-08 16:00:38] ggwp : I bet [2016-06-08 16:01:51] ggwp : how about phone recommendations? [2016-06-08 16:01:59] ggwp : privacy centered [2016-06-08 16:02:04] BTCDJS : here we go fellas! 650 [2016-06-08 16:02:21] BTCDJS : ggwp: iphone [2016-06-08 16:02:28] ggwp : :DDD [2016-06-08 16:02:48] BTCDJS : ggwp: most secure phone there is [2016-06-08 16:02:57] ggwp : u srs? [2016-06-08 16:03:02] BTCDJS : yep [2016-06-08 16:03:46] BTCDJS : none of the apps can communicate with each other unless you allow it [2016-06-08 16:03:53] ggwp : I mean something more like this: https://www.silentcircle.com/products-and-solutions/devices/ [2016-06-08 16:04:10] ggwp : apple has a shitload of backdoors [2016-06-08 16:04:53] BTCDJS : ggwp: if you say so [2016-06-08 16:04:53] ggwp : don't really trust them a bunch tbh [2016-06-08 16:05:21] ggwp : but still better than google [2016-06-08 16:07:28] BTCDJS : ggwp: tutanota are in partnership with someone who are bringing out a phone that is meant to be very secure [2016-06-08 16:07:37] BTCDJS : let me see if I can find it [2016-06-08 16:08:33] BTCDJS : ggwp:https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/una-phone-zenith-crowdfunding [2016-06-08 16:08:45] ggwp : thanks [2016-06-08 16:08:53] ggwp : do you use tutanota? [2016-06-08 16:09:29] BTCDJS : ggwp: yes [2016-06-08 16:09:58] BTCDJS : very secure email service [2016-06-08 16:10:20] ggwp : do you have experience with any other ones? [2016-06-08 16:10:29] ggwp : (privacy centered email provs) [2016-06-08 16:10:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 9171 @ 0.00818 [2016-06-08 16:11:25] BTCDJS : no not really. Tutanota is the only privacy centred email provider I know of [2016-06-08 16:11:59] ggwp : they're gonna start accepting BTC soon afaik [2016-06-08 16:12:21] BTCDJS : ggwp: really? thats cool. But for what? [2016-06-08 16:12:38] ggwp : bigger mailbox size [2016-06-08 16:12:46] BTCDJS : cool [2016-06-08 16:12:59] ggwp : yep [2016-06-08 16:13:10] ggwp : protonmail is quite good [2016-06-08 16:13:32] ggwp : better UI imo [2016-06-08 16:14:06] BTCDJS : ill check em out [2016-06-08 16:14:15] ggwp : worth it [2016-06-08 16:16:13] justinlooking : that LTC liq was lumpy, ~30% of the open interest [2016-06-08 16:19:28] BitMEX_Wally : Got filled quick enough [2016-06-08 16:21:21] justinlooking : fo shizzle [2016-06-08 16:28:08] rapidtrades : justinlooking: how much was it? just got here [2016-06-08 16:28:22] justinlooking : over 9000 [2016-06-08 17:06:20] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Does PNL include funding? [2016-06-08 17:06:43] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Yes, funding affects realisedPnl [2016-06-08 17:06:57] elmorte : Cheers [2016-06-08 17:07:06] BitMEX_Wally : It's just like other trading fees in that respect [2016-06-08 17:07:24] elmorte : Yup, noted [2016-06-08 17:08:35] ggwp : is adding a pnl based on orderbook price on your to-do list? [2016-06-08 17:08:44] ggwp : in addition to the mark price one? [2016-06-08 17:09:34] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: [2016-06-08 17:36:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : hey guys, how do I activate charts? [2016-06-08 17:36:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am stuck with deposit address [2016-06-08 17:40:51] BitMEX_Wally : Ugly_Old_Goat: Switch to advanced mode [2016-06-08 17:41:01] BitMEX_Wally : Click your name in the top right [2016-06-08 17:41:31] ggwp : @BitMEX_Wally, could you answer my question? [2016-06-08 17:42:20] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: We are thinking about ways to show estimated execution price close orders [2016-06-08 17:45:19] sq : BitMEX_Wally: my advanced mode does not display my XBTM16 positions [2016-06-08 17:45:50] sq : oh sorry , it does [2016-06-08 17:53:02] rapidtrades : next leg up or down fellas? [2016-06-08 17:55:04] rentchev : that's the million $ question [2016-06-08 17:55:21] rentchev : I still think it needs to go lower before another new high [2016-06-08 17:56:14] rapidtrades : why do u think that fella [2016-06-08 18:00:35] BTCDJS : rapidtrades:http://www.tradingview.com/x/eb5LwUZd [2016-06-08 18:01:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: its going to tighten up a bit then boosh [2016-06-08 18:04:16] ggwp : rapid do you trade on trollbox advice? [2016-06-08 18:16:26] rentchev : ggwp: good point [2016-06-08 18:22:51] GingerDan : 'Due to the Dragon Boat Festival Holidays in Taiwan all banks will be closed on Thursday 9 June and Friday 10 June. No deposits or withdrawals by wire will be processed during these days. The banks will open again on Monday 13 June.' [2016-06-08 18:23:03] GingerDan : Reason to short? [2016-06-08 18:24:06] BTCDJS : GingerDan: interesting. Could be... [2016-06-08 18:24:50] BTCDJS : GingerDan: though the rest of the world still trading [2016-06-08 18:27:30] ggwp : volume is already dwindling [2016-06-08 18:36:11] GingerDan : Think I might put some stop orders in [2016-06-08 18:36:51] BTCDJS : GingerDan: I've made my position smaller based on that info [2016-06-08 18:52:43] sleger : but its full moon somewhere so maybe you should make it bigger as well ? [2016-06-08 18:53:25] BTCDJS : sleger: good idea [2016-06-08 18:56:51] wurstgelee : sleger: hahahaha [2016-06-08 18:57:13] wurstgelee : you are an asshole sometimes but you are funny. :D [2016-06-08 18:57:15] rapidtrades : ggwp: no i don't trade based on trollbox advice...u dummy [2016-06-08 18:57:40] wurstgelee : i know you take both as a compliment [2016-06-08 18:57:49] wurstgelee : so you are welcome ;) [2016-06-08 18:58:50] BTCDJS : wurstgelee: well he is a teacher at the same time. even if he doesn't mean to be. [2016-06-08 18:59:02] ggwp : then why do you ask so much and then pretend you were checking if the person's in a "good position"? [2016-06-08 19:01:31] rapidtrades : ggwp: that's only for u [2016-06-08 19:01:36] rapidtrades : weasel [2016-06-08 19:02:02] ggwp : smiled [2016-06-08 19:46:01] rapidtrades : ugh...premium's back [2016-06-08 19:50:46] wurstgelee : green dildos [2016-06-08 19:52:29] BTCDJS : six fiddy here we come [2016-06-08 20:06:30] ggwp : the hammering is about to start [2016-06-08 20:07:52] jung1 : all in lisk [2016-06-08 20:08:19] rapidtrades : 4real or figuratively? [2016-06-08 20:09:37] jung1 : 4real [2016-06-08 20:09:42] jung1 : maybe not all in [2016-06-08 20:09:58] jung1 : but imo there will be huge profit in next months [2016-06-08 20:10:40] rapidtrades : allin anything is not a good idea fella [2016-06-08 20:12:21] jung1 : yeah [2016-06-08 20:12:23] jung1 : I know [2016-06-08 20:12:39] jung1 : do not put all your eggs in one bucket [2016-06-08 20:12:43] jung1 : etc [2016-06-08 20:15:21] ggwp : lisk might become the "retail" equivalent to the "enterprise" ethereum [2016-06-08 20:17:26] rapidtrades : too bad etherium is shit [2016-06-08 20:24:47] ggwp : ignoramus [2016-06-08 20:24:58] ggwp : you can't even spell it [2016-06-08 20:25:26] rapidtrades : shiterium? [2016-06-08 20:31:50] ggwp : xDDDDDD [2016-06-08 20:31:58] ggwp : lololololol [2016-06-08 20:32:25] jung1 : why you think ethereum is shitty? [2016-06-08 20:43:57] Rasign : jung1: is name [2016-06-08 20:50:52] Rasign : who actually long btc ? [2016-06-08 20:51:21] ggwp : rapid supposedly is [2016-06-08 20:51:37] ggwp : lots of peeps have scaled out already [2016-06-08 20:51:46] ggwp : I'm short [2016-06-08 20:51:50] Rasign : tomorrow i will call him rapidrekt [2016-06-08 20:51:54] ggwp : pretty sure sleger is short [2016-06-08 20:52:00] ggwp : hehe [2016-06-08 20:53:53] Rasign : ok [2016-06-08 20:55:16] Rasign : ggwp: i think he looks fine for you [2016-06-08 20:55:30] ggwp : who [2016-06-08 20:55:35] ggwp : the market? [2016-06-08 20:55:39] Rasign : yep [2016-06-08 20:56:04] ggwp : :D [2016-06-08 20:56:09] jung1 : im short [2016-06-08 20:56:29] jung1 : lisk go up 4% since I say all in lisk [2016-06-08 20:56:43] jung1 : just sayin' [2016-06-08 20:57:06] ggwp : what is it now? [2016-06-08 20:57:09] ggwp : 8000 [2016-06-08 20:57:33] ggwp : 82 [2016-06-08 20:57:37] ggwp : dang [2016-06-08 20:57:50] ggwp : when bitcoin retraces so will lisk [2016-06-08 20:57:58] ggwp : imho [2016-06-08 20:58:17] jung1 : 0.001 in weekend [2016-06-08 20:59:03] ggwp : no thank you ;) [2016-06-08 20:59:08] ggwp : I need to buy back [2016-06-08 20:59:18] ggwp : only bought back part [2016-06-08 21:05:06] ggwp : 1150 ask @ 82 [2016-06-08 21:05:10] ggwp : finex [2016-06-08 21:19:16] jung1 : 83 [2016-06-08 21:23:34] jung1 : 84 [2016-06-08 21:53:54] BTCDJS : Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!! bye bye bears :D [2016-06-08 21:54:11] ggwp : not so fast [2016-06-08 21:54:14] BTCDJS : sic fiddy [2016-06-08 21:54:19] ggwp : gonna add to my short [2016-06-08 21:54:41] rentchev : I don't get why is LSK going up with BTC [2016-06-08 21:54:45] BTCDJS : ggwp: go for it mate. Hope you short the hell out of this [2016-06-08 21:54:45] rentchev : any idea ggwp? [2016-06-08 21:55:00] ggwp : eth inverse lisk positive [2016-06-08 21:55:08] ggwp : they're friends ;) [2016-06-08 21:55:34] ggwp : it wont get past 3900 [2016-06-08 21:55:44] ggwp : if it does I'm getting out [2016-06-08 21:56:00] ggwp : until then I'm averaging up [2016-06-08 21:56:09] rentchev : 0.000839? [2016-06-08 21:56:14] ggwp : no no [2016-06-08 21:56:16] BTCDJS : ggwp: whatever man do what you think is right [2016-06-08 21:56:19] ggwp : talking about btc [2016-06-08 21:56:23] rentchev : oh [2016-06-08 21:56:30] rentchev : 3900 CNY [2016-06-08 21:56:34] ggwp : yeah [2016-06-08 21:56:49] ggwp : lisk shouldn't moon yet [2016-06-08 21:56:56] ggwp : too early [2016-06-08 21:57:07] ggwp : needs a couple of weeks of accumulation [2016-06-08 21:57:11] ggwp : imho [2016-06-08 21:58:54] BTCDJS : ggwp: If I'm wrong about this:http://www.tradingview.com/x/lkfvG7m1 Ill bow down to the meanest bear of them all (you) [2016-06-08 21:59:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1150 @ 582.13 [2016-06-08 21:59:45] ggwp : hmmm [2016-06-08 21:59:55] ggwp : finex pumping [2016-06-08 22:00:02] ggwp : china dgaf [2016-06-08 22:00:30] ggwp : clear trap [2016-06-08 22:01:25] ggwp : selling moar [2016-06-08 22:02:44] sleger : i covered some of my short [2016-06-08 22:02:50] sleger : when i saw that 1k buy on finex [2016-06-08 22:03:07] ggwp : that's what they want you to do ;) [2016-06-08 22:04:16] BTCDJS : ggwp: pfffft [2016-06-08 22:04:39] ggwp : down from here [2016-06-08 22:04:58] BTCDJS : ggwp: I hope so. I want to get in cheaper [2016-06-08 22:05:03] ggwp : if it breaks 3880 my point is invalid [2016-06-08 22:05:11] ggwp : and I get rekt ;) [2016-06-08 22:05:25] ggwp : hard break [2016-06-08 22:07:20] ggwp : this is the best short entry you're gonna get in a while [2016-06-08 22:07:33] ggwp : remember these words [2016-06-08 22:08:38] BTCDJS : ggwp: I can't remember words I don't believe in. Sorry. but I do have a lower buy order in. I hope it comes down a bit. [2016-06-08 22:08:55] Tetsuo : buy now or cry later [2016-06-08 22:09:07] BTCDJS : and I hope it brings the premium down with it [2016-06-08 22:09:11] ggwp : I don't cry [2016-06-08 22:09:27] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: high five. Another genius on campus [2016-06-08 22:09:28] ggwp : ;_; [2016-06-08 22:09:42] ggwp : here we go! [2016-06-08 22:09:46] ggwp : landslide! [2016-06-08 22:10:13] ggwp : target 540 [2016-06-08 22:10:23] ggwp : going to sleep guys [2016-06-08 22:10:36] ggwp : good night [2016-06-08 22:10:37] Tetsuo : do you like to get rekt while sleeping? [2016-06-08 22:10:41] BTCDJS : ggwp: really? you're going to let your ego stand in the way of making money? [2016-06-08 22:10:59] ggwp : we'll see who'll make the money [2016-06-08 22:11:00] ggwp : ;) [2016-06-08 22:11:04] ggwp : good luck [2016-06-08 22:11:28] BTCDJS : ggwp: smiling. Sleep tight. [2016-06-08 22:11:39] ggwp : I sure will [2016-06-08 22:11:46] ggwp : thanks [2016-06-08 22:12:06] BTCDJS : ggwp: you mustn't have a position open if you can go to sleep so easily [2016-06-08 22:12:34] ggwp : it's only money [2016-06-08 22:12:41] ggwp : sleep > money [2016-06-08 22:12:45] BTCDJS : ggwp: oh a spiritual man [2016-06-08 22:13:01] ggwp : nah, just a realist [2016-06-08 22:13:16] ggwp : you can always make more money [2016-06-08 22:13:25] BTCDJS : ggwp: sure [2016-06-08 22:13:32] ggwp : even if you're a half-wit [2016-06-08 22:13:36] BTCDJS : if you know when to long or short [2016-06-08 22:13:40] ggwp : like most celebs [2016-06-08 22:14:12] BTCDJS : ggwp: you are the bravest man i know [2016-06-08 22:14:17] ggwp : but you can't make more time [2016-06-08 22:14:26] BTCDJS : being bearish in a bull market [2016-06-08 22:14:49] Rasign : Sleeping is waste of rime [2016-06-08 22:14:50] ggwp : :) [2016-06-08 22:14:56] ggwp : gn [2016-06-08 22:14:56] Rasign : Time [2016-06-08 22:14:59] ggwp : why? [2016-06-08 22:15:17] Rasign : Take some coke and lets make money with us [2016-06-08 22:15:50] BTCDJS : Rasign: give me some [2016-06-08 22:15:56] ggwp : I don't feel the need to watch paint dry [2016-06-08 22:16:07] ggwp : pretty confident [2016-06-08 22:16:10] Rasign : Côme in France [2016-06-08 22:16:15] ggwp : besides: alarms [2016-06-08 22:17:24] BTCDJS : Rasign: too far [2016-06-08 22:19:11] ggwp : what's with traders and drugs? [2016-06-08 22:19:22] ggwp : especially crypto traders [2016-06-08 22:19:47] BTCDJS : ggwp: don't know about traders and drugs. But Im a human who's partial [2016-06-08 22:19:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 32 @ 0.02476 [2016-06-08 22:19:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 6234 @ 0.02476 [2016-06-08 22:20:22] ggwp : hmmm [2016-06-08 22:20:40] ggwp : eth is a good buy here [2016-06-08 22:21:30] ggwp : alright, enough ranting ;) [2016-06-08 22:21:33] ggwp : good night [2016-06-08 22:21:43] sleger : ok i guess i can reenter what i cut of my short [2016-06-08 22:24:47] BTCDJS : Its possible we drop to 576.30 ish before we go up. Thats where Im buying in. [2016-06-08 22:25:51] jung1 : when it will be 1:1 rate? whats your bets? [2016-06-08 22:25:53] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_lsk [2016-06-08 22:27:36] BTCDJS : jung1: list is only up 14% [2016-06-08 22:27:46] BTCDJS : that link says 6000% [2016-06-08 22:28:44] jung1 : since yesterday [2016-06-08 22:28:58] jung1 : that market works not even 24h [2016-06-08 22:29:30] BTCDJS : jung1: for the record. Im in 50% on LISK [2016-06-08 22:29:55] jung1 : good bet [2016-06-08 22:29:59] BTCDJS : I hope so [2016-06-08 22:30:13] jung1 : $5 easy [2016-06-08 22:30:38] BTCDJS : Everyone seems to think having ethereum in java is good [2016-06-08 22:30:54] BTCDJS : who am I to argue [2016-06-08 22:31:24] BTCDJS : jung1: BTC rate? [2016-06-08 22:31:38] BTCDJS : I have sell order at 0.008 [2016-06-08 22:32:25] jung1 : well all that halving thing will be quite interesting to give altcoins rate in btc [2016-06-08 22:32:50] jung1 : imo lisk will follow ethereum chart [2016-06-08 22:32:58] jung1 : and tommorow waves go online [2016-06-08 22:33:25] BTCDJS : jung1: good luck [2016-06-08 22:33:56] micmix : BTCDJS: let's be real, no one here cares about the technology of lisk or etherium [2016-06-08 22:34:26] BTCDJS : micmix: I do [2016-06-08 22:34:40] BTCDJS : And so does microsoft [2016-06-08 22:35:01] BTCDJS : And great Dapps have been built on it already [2016-06-08 22:35:39] micmix : well I'm not sure you do because you said "etherium in java" but lisk uses javascript [2016-06-08 22:35:41] BTCDJS : I have invested in Augur. Which is also built on it. Should be nice return [2016-06-08 22:36:01] micmix : ^^^ that's what ppl care about 'return' [2016-06-08 22:36:30] BTCDJS : micmix: Lisk does the same as ethereum but is written in java. That is what I eant [2016-06-08 22:36:47] BTCDJS : meant [2016-06-08 22:38:12] micmix : BTCDJS: nope, it's not written in java. it uses javascript engine and javascript language to develop dapps, doesn't have anything to do with java [2016-06-08 22:39:24] BTCDJS : micmix: whatever dude. I can't be bothered to be pedantic. Thats basically what I'm saying. That is the appeal to people [2016-06-08 22:39:52] BitMEX_Sam : That's not really pedantic, they're completely different things [2016-06-08 22:40:31] BTCDJS : Not to someone who doesn't code. Its all the same thing to me [2016-06-08 22:41:17] BitMEX_Sam : Well, if you care about the technology it's very important - they address two very different crowds and have very different characteristics [2016-06-08 22:41:37] BitMEX_Sam : I happen to think using JS over Solidity will help with uptake but it depends very much on the contract API [2016-06-08 22:41:58] BitMEX_Sam : JS is not the best language for the job by any means, especially when it comes to crunching numbers, but the barrier to entry is very low. [2016-06-08 22:42:35] BitMEX_Sam : I don't agree with ETH's decision to invent their own PL. [2016-06-08 22:43:27] BTCDJS : I see. (sort of) So why are people so excited about lisk? [2016-06-08 22:43:56] micmix : there are also some differences in the way both blockchains are built, making lisk quite different from etherium [2016-06-08 22:44:53] micmix : and I assume we will see both developing new features rapidly [2016-06-08 22:46:50] micmix : as long as traders don't kill lisk expecting 100x return and not getting it :smile: [2016-06-08 22:47:42] sleger : "BTCDJS: jung1: for the record. Im in 50% on LISK" and 14 min later : "BTCDJS: I see. (sort of) So why are people so excited about lisk?" [2016-06-08 22:47:53] sleger : maybe do the homework before investing ? [2016-06-08 22:47:56] micmix : those pump&dump cycles are bad for the technology and people developing it [2016-06-08 22:49:56] mwalshe99 : micmix: used to say the same about btc :/ [2016-06-08 22:50:58] micmix : yeah, and pump to $1000 followed by the massive dump wasn't good for the ecosystem [2016-06-08 22:51:18] micmix : meanwhile down the street: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/sinkhole-rideau-street-downtown-ottawa-1.3621949 [2016-06-08 22:51:54] j8 : yikes [2016-06-08 22:52:11] micmix : check the first video, that's how Ottawa city deals with illegal parking :smile: [2016-06-08 23:16:03] jung1 : micmix: pump and dump cycles are very good for technology and people developing it [2016-06-08 23:16:21] jung1 : every pump brings ne people in [2016-06-08 23:16:42] jung1 : and holders have an opportunity to make money for further developing [2016-06-08 23:19:52] micmix : jung1: holders don't contribute anything to the development. new people hoping to get rich don't contribute anything either [2016-06-08 23:40:41] jung1 : yes they are. they give money for start of project in early days [2016-06-08 23:40:50] jung1 : btw this is why Im excited about lisk https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-adds-charles-hoskinson-steven-nerayoff-as-senior-advisors-to-facilitate-product-development-5a2260613699#.ckdvp752d [2016-06-08 23:41:14] jung1 : “We are extremely pleased to announce Charles Hoskinson and Steven Nerayoff as our senior advisors, which accelerates Lisk product growth by giving valuable input on the technology and startup methodology,” said Kordek. “Charles and Steven were two of the most prominent individuals responsible for the phenomenal success of Ethereum. [2016-06-09 00:50:33] zanza : nice pump jung1 [2016-06-09 00:52:20] jung1 : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.07524v1.pdf [2016-06-09 00:52:32] jung1 : Hijacking Bitcoin: Large-scale Network Attacks on Cryptocurrencies using BGP prefix hijacking [2016-06-09 01:42:20] rapidtrades : why is finex so low [2016-06-09 01:44:13] j8 : 577 is pretty high [2016-06-09 01:45:16] rapidtrades : its below everyone except btce [2016-06-09 01:46:28] jung1 : they know something [2016-06-09 01:48:08] rapidtrades : i highly doubt finex 'knows' anything [2016-06-09 01:48:24] rapidtrades : its the second fomoest exchange, after here [2016-06-09 01:55:29] j8 : yesterday it was at 561 for no reason. not much liquidity, people are leaving [2016-06-09 01:56:56] rentchev : people leaving Bitfinex? [2016-06-09 01:57:27] j8 : the orderbook depth is not what it used to be [2016-06-09 01:57:40] j8 : no reason to be alarmed [2016-06-09 02:00:36] micmix : j8: they changed fee structure last year, it's much harder to get to the 0% maker fee now, so many smaller MMs left [2016-06-09 02:01:01] j8 : yeah figures [2016-06-09 02:04:19] j8 : i stopped trading there because it was hard to maintain a good fee level when the volatility stops [2016-06-09 02:10:51] rapidtrades : its obnoxiously hard to get executed there, that's for sure [2016-06-09 02:13:34] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/yuan-midpoint-publication-was-wrong-and-has-been-withdrawn-20160609 [2016-06-09 02:13:37] rapidtrades : LOL [2016-06-09 02:14:46] jung1 : there is no such mistakes on that level of informations [2016-06-09 02:14:54] jung1 : someone made a lot of money [2016-06-09 02:16:17] arbitrage001 : j8: any feel on the price direction? [2016-06-09 02:16:30] arbitrage001 : since you mention order book has no depth [2016-06-09 02:16:46] arbitrage001 : that is indication of impeding huge price correction? [2016-06-09 02:16:59] rapidtrades : rates in 2 hrs? finex lending low liquidty [2016-06-09 02:17:22] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: shallow order book means the price right now has little meaning [2016-06-09 02:17:39] rapidtrades : lending market [2016-06-09 02:17:44] arbitrage001 : huge order can not get out without making price moves [2016-06-09 02:17:50] rapidtrades : LENDING [2016-06-09 02:18:41] arbitrage001 : frr rates has 6 millions usd for lend [2016-06-09 02:28:29] jung1 : lisk 85 [2016-06-09 02:31:25] merp : any mods avbailable? [2016-06-09 02:32:14] j8 : arbitrage001: i think we need to see what happens in the first few days after the new okc quarterly launches [2016-06-09 02:33:35] j8 : before that we can have some fakeouts probably [2016-06-09 02:35:26] BitMEX_Arthur : merp: How can I help [2016-06-09 02:40:56] j8 : and i don't trade off of orderbook depth, but either way i don't think it would take much to slice through 520, or 620 [2016-06-09 03:11:55] rentchev : BitMEX_Arthur: stops based on last price are so much better than mark price [2016-06-09 03:12:13] rentchev : The unrealized PNL should also be on last price [2016-06-09 03:12:20] rentchev : not mark price [2016-06-09 03:18:03] billyboy402 : can you open A long and short on the same poistion , or does it close the other one out ? [2016-06-09 03:26:43] BitMEX_Jinming : billyboy402: No, you can't have long and short positions for the same instrument at the same time. [2016-06-09 03:36:25] billyboy402 : thanks [2016-06-09 03:37:13] billyboy402 : has any one here manage to get any good software trading bots to work [2016-06-09 03:37:30] billyboy402 : hassonline doesnt have api set up , was looking at using some api trading [2016-06-09 04:40:08] merp : linming [2016-06-09 04:40:20] merp : I withdrew money yet it hasnt hit my accounts [2016-06-09 04:40:58] merp : neither here nor there [2016-06-09 04:43:00] BitMEX_Wally : Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC [2016-06-09 04:43:11] BitMEX_Wally : In 8 hours' time