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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-06-07 20:25:23] BTCDJS : mwalshe99: Its quite easy to do in a bull market to be fair. Or even a bear market... [2016-06-07 20:33:22] rapidtrades : guys [2016-06-07 20:33:32] rapidtrades : up or down? [2016-06-07 20:33:42] BTCDJS : Up!!! [2016-06-07 20:34:15] ggwp : wow [2016-06-07 20:35:04] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: Up is correct! You're a f*cking genius sir [2016-06-07 20:35:32] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I learned from the best [2016-06-07 20:35:46] rapidtrades : he means me everyone :) [2016-06-07 20:36:04] BTCDJS : :) [2016-06-07 20:36:58] BTCDJS : selling at 620 bitmex price [2016-06-07 20:37:01] mwalshe99 : if the price could climb back to 574 so i can close my losing position that would be great [2016-06-07 20:38:38] justinlooking : u flipped ur short yet sleger? [2016-06-07 20:40:16] mwalshe99 : okc really needs to break 3818 or this might get real ugly real quick [2016-06-07 20:44:47] BTCDJS : the 1D bollinger band is saying to me the bull run still has some way to go. Am I wrong? Has anyone else noticed? @rapidtrades [2016-06-07 20:44:54] ggwp : sell walls poppuing up on finex [2016-06-07 20:45:09] ggwp : *po [2016-06-07 20:45:14] ggwp : pping [2016-06-07 20:57:54] jesperf : easy on the dom perignon there ggwp [2016-06-07 20:59:23] ggwp : only egri bikaver [2016-06-07 20:59:28] ggwp : jesperf: [2016-06-07 20:59:50] ggwp : made me smile though [2016-06-07 21:00:01] jesperf : :) [2016-06-07 21:01:18] Mr Blue : Like I said was a bear trap, but I still lost my ass lol had 53,000 at 587.62 lost 0.6 BTC as feared it would touch 560 so sold early and still 28000 left to shift [2016-06-07 21:04:18] ggwp : damn [2016-06-07 21:06:22] Mr Blue : ggwp: could of been worse had to send in more to try lower my entry price, had 5 BTC on the line, if I didn't buy more an lower it I'd of been liquidated, it was that close mate [2016-06-07 21:06:58] Mr Blue : My original entry was 591 lol [2016-06-07 21:07:37] Mr Blue : So if I didn't lower if I'd of prob been cleaned out at 564 [2016-06-07 21:09:07] Mr Blue : Current liquidation price is 560 and that still had be flapping why I sold much at a ten dollar loss when it because possible again [2016-06-07 21:09:31] Mr Blue : Became* [2016-06-07 21:10:10] foxie : hi guys [2016-06-07 21:10:17] jung1 : hi [2016-06-07 21:10:30] Mr Blue : Currently I'm still 1.3 BTC in profit from what I deposited, but really has been a set back of a day for me so far lol [2016-06-07 21:10:35] Mr Blue : foxie: hi [2016-06-07 21:10:58] foxie : would one of you mind walking me through briefly how to trade lisk long n short here please [2016-06-07 21:11:17] BTCDJS : foxie: hey foxie. How sly are you? [2016-06-07 21:11:37] foxie : yeah good ta. you? [2016-06-07 21:11:53] jung1 : same as any other contract. You do not deposit any lisk here. Just trade bitcoins based on polo lisk price [2016-06-07 21:12:14] BTCDJS : foxie: you from the uk? [2016-06-07 21:12:30] foxie : originaly [2016-06-07 21:12:38] Mr Blue : ggwp: bet you made few BTC on that crash mate [2016-06-07 21:12:46] BTCDJS : just cos you said ta [2016-06-07 21:12:57] foxie : lol [2016-06-07 21:13:32] Mr Blue : ggwp: bet you made few BTC on that drop mate [2016-06-07 21:13:33] foxie : i dont get how long the contracts last? [2016-06-07 21:14:19] foxie : is there a simple basic formula to get my head round this once and for all [2016-06-07 21:14:49] Mr Blue : Lag [2016-06-07 21:15:13] foxie : so you short if you think price is going to drop ie lisk price [2016-06-07 21:15:15] BTCDJS : foxie: list is a perpetual swap. You hold until you close [2016-06-07 21:15:26] BTCDJS : LISK [2016-06-07 21:15:39] BTCDJS : yup [2016-06-07 21:16:19] foxie : then what wait for it to close or close when you think the optimal time is [2016-06-07 21:16:35] BTCDJS : foxie: I don't want to tell you how to suck eggs. but I wouldn't trade LISK on margin yet [2016-06-07 21:17:08] BTCDJS : foxie: alts don't move when bitcoin is in a bull run [2016-06-07 21:17:40] foxie : ok i see so wanna be trading bitcoin n gauge the movement [2016-06-07 21:18:01] BTCDJS : foxie: you new to trading? [2016-06-07 21:18:25] rapidtrades : what can't go down must go up [2016-06-07 21:19:14] foxie : yeah - ok with simple trading but just want to get my head round margins long n short - any good tutorials ? [2016-06-07 21:20:26] ggwp : rapidtrades: keep telling yourself that all the way down, rapidrekt [2016-06-07 21:20:42] ggwp : Mr Blue: I haven't closed yet [2016-06-07 21:21:00] ggwp : Mr Blue: sfyl, but you're still in profit so + [2016-06-07 21:21:31] BTCDJS : foxie: well its the same principal. But when you're wrong. you lose what you put in. Just make sure you buy as low as you can. [2016-06-07 21:21:33] ggwp : the liquidity and spread on eth is terrible [2016-06-07 21:21:51] ggwp : foxie: maybe babypips? [2016-06-07 21:21:57] BTCDJS : foxie: do you know how to set a limit order? [2016-06-07 21:22:09] ggwp : or just https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq [2016-06-07 21:22:17] ggwp : read all this and you should be set to go [2016-06-07 21:22:39] ggwp : and ask away here is you have any questions [2016-06-07 21:22:47] ggwp : the staff are grade a [2016-06-07 21:22:56] foxie : ok thanks [2016-06-07 21:23:09] ggwp : np [2016-06-07 21:24:53] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: choppy for a bit then up mate. I feel sorry for the bears. [2016-06-07 21:25:39] Mr Blue : ggwp: true but it will be like I've worked 6 days for only 1 BTC profit here, taking a cut hurts lol [2016-06-07 21:26:14] ggwp : bears already took some profit, so even if you're right - no need to feel sorry @ BTCDJS [2016-06-07 21:26:29] foxie : BTCDJS: sort of but not crystal clear [2016-06-07 21:26:57] BTCDJS : ggwp: on that little dump? scraps in a bull market. [2016-06-07 21:28:47] BTCDJS : foxie: well if you have an idea where price is going to move then set a limit buy or sell order rather than market. and the same when you close. never market close. it will eat all your profit. [2016-06-07 21:29:14] ggwp : Mr Blue: I feel ya, we have way different trading styles afaics I prefer catching the big moves, almost stress-free and while enjoying myself doing something else, while you scalp ;) [2016-06-07 21:29:56] foxie : right ok just having another read through of the faq [2016-06-07 21:30:04] foxie : cheers [2016-06-07 21:30:48] BTCDJS : foxie: np [2016-06-07 21:32:56] Mr Blue : ggwp: haha I do try catch the big moves as well, just wasn't my day today mate, as when I woke up at 591 the markets looked bullish and I thought 610 on here today, 600 spot, anyways no point crying over spilt milk, I'll try join you for the next big one ? [2016-06-07 21:34:11] ggwp : +1 [2016-06-07 21:34:14] ggwp : :) [2016-06-07 21:34:19] ggwp : :D [2016-06-07 21:35:20] Mr Blue : I might crawl back to doing x5's like a baby, because I surely crapped my nappy today [2016-06-07 21:35:28] Mr Blue : Lol [2016-06-07 21:38:45] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: im a roofer. I made a weeks wage on top of my weeks wage in one trade last weekend while I was on the piss. I only had to play with 0.1btc. I made £80 worth of btc this weekend while on the piss. Point is. you don't have to play big money. You're not going to get rich over night. [2016-06-07 21:40:30] ggwp : Mr Blue: hehehe, good to take a break for a while, revenge trading is evil [2016-06-07 21:40:57] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: true, but I only got in for over 50k because I had to buy more as it was dropping lol, though I admit I got greedy an had 30k at 591 before it started dropping for some unknown reason lol [2016-06-07 21:43:03] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: the reason is not unknown. Market doesn't give a fuck about you. It goes up and it goes down. Only trade if you are absolutely certain of the direction its moving. [2016-06-07 21:43:25] ggwp : you never can be absolutely sure [2016-06-07 21:43:32] ggwp : there is always inherent risk [2016-06-07 21:43:33] BTCDJS : ggwp: correct [2016-06-07 21:43:42] Mr Blue : ggwp: true my mind's just not in sync with the markets tonight though [2016-06-07 21:43:48] BTCDJS : but you know what i mean [2016-06-07 21:43:52] ggwp : yeah [2016-06-07 21:44:26] ggwp : I never stop repeating this but: cut losers, run winners [2016-06-07 21:44:50] ggwp : and keep a trading journal [2016-06-07 21:45:02] ggwp : even if you don't have dementia [2016-06-07 21:45:05] ggwp : ;) [2016-06-07 21:45:30] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: the reason was greed but I'll try limit my self to 10k buys from now on lol [2016-06-07 21:46:01] ggwp : Mr Blue: I hope you're flat now? [2016-06-07 21:46:05] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: its a marathon. not a sprint [2016-06-07 21:46:30] Mr Blue : ggwp: lol no got 25000 left now [2016-06-07 21:46:49] ggwp : sells staring in china [2016-06-07 21:46:54] ggwp : starting [2016-06-07 21:48:14] ggwp : imo this ain't bottom, sorry to stress you out mate [2016-06-07 21:48:15] Mr Blue : 22000 now but I can't really keep selling at this price or will lose more than a BTC lol [2016-06-07 21:48:30] ggwp : just stick to your plan [2016-06-07 21:48:54] ggwp : it's turned on me many times when I went out at a loss [2016-06-07 21:48:58] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: if I can earn 100 BTC a year I'd be happy, so ye I'll slow down my risk taking lol [2016-06-07 21:49:04] ggwp : turned back in my favor I mean [2016-06-07 21:50:20] Mr Blue : ggwp: ye been hoping what I have left I might profit on, but 590 seems unlikely tonight, an position is 587.62 [2016-06-07 21:50:40] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: wow thats ambitious. good luck. I used to plan how much profit I wanted. Now I just trade in the moment and make what I get [2016-06-07 21:51:24] Mr Blue : Well wouldn't be a profit, but less of a loss if I can sell this half closer to what I paid [2016-06-07 21:51:45] ggwp : mhm [2016-06-07 21:52:13] ggwp : or you can send more margin [2016-06-07 21:52:23] ggwp : and wait out the storm [2016-06-07 21:52:38] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: my best profit from one dump was 23 BTC [2016-06-07 21:53:28] Mr Blue : ggwp: I could buy more to lower it now I've sold some yes, but still in a state of shock to read the markets properly lol [2016-06-07 21:54:11] ggwp : I mean you could send more maintenance margin to lower your liq price [2016-06-07 21:54:29] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: Well. how many more times did you accomplish round that figure? did you keep it? or did you lose some of it later? [2016-06-07 21:54:40] ggwp : I wouldn't double down on a losing position unless you're super confident [2016-06-07 21:54:43] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: was buying MEC at 1000 to 1200 Satoshi, woke up one morning it was over 40,000 Satoshi, dumped the sh*t out of it lol [2016-06-07 21:55:31] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: lady luck was good to you that time [2016-06-07 21:57:27] hashman : new market close button on open positions tab - seems to not fully close position [2016-06-07 21:57:29] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: ye was a good one [2016-06-07 21:57:54] ggwp : any hot new ICOs worth mentioning? [2016-06-07 21:58:15] ggwp : guys [2016-06-07 21:59:21] BTCDJS : hashman: because it has to fill your order at the price you set from the opposite side. . [2016-06-07 21:59:47] BTCDJS : you're buying what others are selling and visa versa [2016-06-07 21:59:53] hashman : but its a "market" order? [2016-06-07 22:00:05] BTCDJS : did you market close? [2016-06-07 22:00:18] hashman : "close" button is a limit order [2016-06-07 22:00:23] hashman : yeah i pressed market [2016-06-07 22:00:31] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: If there's not enough margin in the account to fill at market it won't complete. [2016-06-07 22:00:44] hashman : don't think that's my issue [2016-06-07 22:00:51] hashman : anyways no big deal [2016-06-07 22:01:33] BTCDJS : hashman: did you see what @BitMEX_Sam said? [2016-06-07 22:01:55] hashman : yeah I believe I have more than enough margin avaialble [2016-06-07 22:02:16] hashman : after it only closed part of the position, pressed the button again, and it closed the rest [2016-06-07 22:02:37] BTCDJS : oh well there you go [2016-06-07 22:03:15] hashman : was wondering why though because the confirm dialog box showed the full amount of contracts to be sold, but after I confirmed it didn't sell them all... [2016-06-07 22:14:01] ggwp : big sells starting on finex [2016-06-07 22:16:26] BTCDJS : ggwp: we are going to bounce above and bellow 578 line for a bit before we go up. [2016-06-07 22:16:48] BTCDJS : thats bitmex price [2016-06-07 22:18:00] ggwp : hopium = bad [2016-06-07 22:18:27] BTCDJS : ggwp: hopium? [2016-06-07 22:18:33] ggwp : but I hope you don't lose money [2016-06-07 22:19:28] Mr Blue : Thank God for coinbase and American money that's all I can say, currency holding the line at 580, was also the exchange that first reversed the dump with a little help from bitstamp, if not I'd of been raped by a Chinese panda bear for sure [2016-06-07 22:19:51] ggwp : coinbase dropped to 470 [2016-06-07 22:20:02] BTCDJS : thanks. same to you @ggwp [2016-06-07 22:20:02] ggwp : did you see that? [2016-06-07 22:20:11] ggwp : BTCDJS: tnks [2016-06-07 22:20:41] ggwp : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd [2016-06-07 22:20:56] ggwp : funny shit [2016-06-07 22:21:25] Mr Blue : ggwp: if it did still better than 564 lol, ye was watching it dropped with the others but not as fast, and started the reversal trend [2016-06-07 22:22:32] ggwp : :D [2016-06-07 22:22:38] ggwp : I'm out for today guys [2016-06-07 22:22:46] ggwp : unless my alarms wake me [2016-06-07 22:22:49] ggwp : gn [2016-06-07 22:22:56] Mr Blue : ggwp: the mate [2016-06-07 22:23:03] Mr Blue : ggwp: the [2016-06-07 22:23:19] BTCDJS : ggwp: later [2016-06-07 22:23:21] Mr Blue : ggwp: good night [2016-06-07 22:23:32] BTCDJS : yeah me too [2016-06-07 22:24:37] mwalshe99 : tbh what makes you think this will go up? [2016-06-07 22:24:59] mwalshe99 : im generally worried. theres allot of new traders about who automaticly assume this is going to moon without any sort of pullback [2016-06-07 22:25:06] mwalshe99 : we could easily retest the 3400 zone [2016-06-07 22:25:22] mwalshe99 : as someone who is long from 587 i'm actually quite worried [2016-06-07 22:27:22] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: me?? I'm also long 587 was long 591 but lowered it, then took a loss after worrying about the dump, I'm now back down to x10 so not as worried about liquidation, we should at least test 590 again [2016-06-07 22:27:56] Mr Blue : I was worried though, x25 had me out at $560 lol [2016-06-07 22:29:21] mwalshe99 : owch [2016-06-07 22:29:24] mwalshe99 : thats close [2016-06-07 22:29:40] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: it was $3 close lol [2016-06-07 22:29:47] mwalshe99 : yea i honestly think we will retest the 4000 area [2016-06-07 22:30:01] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: glad I managed to lower down to your entry price [2016-06-07 22:30:05] mwalshe99 : just really concerned for all the people who are "certain" its up and up from there [2016-06-07 22:30:21] mwalshe99 : lol [2016-06-07 22:30:22] sleger : low 500s coming [2016-06-07 22:30:23] mwalshe99 : yea!! [2016-06-07 22:30:32] mwalshe99 : that was a good shout to lower it [2016-06-07 22:30:46] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: lots of bumps in the road mate, but I have my theories where it's going long term [2016-06-07 22:30:50] mwalshe99 : sleger: dont think a retest of 4000 is necessary? [2016-06-07 22:31:29] mwalshe99 : im selling out for a loss as soon as we break 585 [2016-06-07 22:31:41] mwalshe99 : think low 500s could well be coming too [2016-06-07 22:33:33] Mr Blue : After today I honestly think it will stay around £400 for a week, so like $6 increase from here.. [2016-06-07 22:34:08] mwalshe99 : $6 increase will be perfect [2016-06-07 22:34:13] mwalshe99 : take my losses happily [2016-06-07 22:34:18] mwalshe99 : but jesus christ [2016-06-07 22:34:25] mwalshe99 : did someone actually quote the price in pounds?! [2016-06-07 22:36:25] Mr Blue : Ye lol £400 is our mark, and where not far off do its staying there, America and Chinas target might take a week, but I'm still confident thus year will see £600 [2016-06-07 22:36:40] Mr Blue : So it's* [2016-06-07 22:37:58] Mr Blue : And yes I realise not much buying is done in £ but I'm British lol [2016-06-07 22:40:23] mwalshe99 : lol [2016-06-07 22:40:27] mwalshe99 : im british aswlel [2016-06-07 22:40:30] mwalshe99 : where you from? [2016-06-07 22:41:00] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: the north ? [2016-06-07 22:41:09] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: Leeds [2016-06-07 22:41:21] mwalshe99 : ahh northern! [2016-06-07 22:41:24] mwalshe99 : north of the wall [2016-06-07 22:41:36] mwalshe99 : you wildling bastards! :P [2016-06-07 22:41:47] Mr Blue : No no I'm at winterfel [2016-06-07 22:42:00] mwalshe99 : everywhere above london is north of the wall! :P [2016-06-07 22:42:07] mwalshe99 : lol [2016-06-07 22:42:11] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: we build a wall to keep them wildling Scots out [2016-06-07 22:42:22] mwalshe99 : scots are the undead [2016-06-07 22:42:26] Mr Blue : Adrian's wall [2016-06-07 22:42:31] mwalshe99 : lol [2016-06-07 22:43:27] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: so where you from, high garden or the filth pit of kings landing [2016-06-07 22:47:29] Mr Blue : Kings landing I assume would be London lol [2016-06-07 22:49:52] Mr Blue : Haha as for the Iron born we dropped anthrax on the iron islands... purely for testing [2016-06-07 22:51:46] Mr Blue : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruinard_Island [2016-06-07 22:51:48] mwalshe99 : london [2016-06-07 22:51:58] mwalshe99 : from acton but live in highgarden/fulham [2016-06-07 22:53:22] Mr Blue : Chemical weapons, what chemical weapons lol, dragon fire killed the poor sheep [2016-06-07 22:53:26] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: cool [2016-06-07 22:54:57] mwalshe99 : lol [2016-06-07 22:55:04] mwalshe99 : premium here is disappearin [2016-06-07 22:55:15] mwalshe99 : was 10 points a few hours ago [2016-06-07 22:55:19] mwalshe99 : sign of chaning sentiment [2016-06-07 22:56:02] mwalshe99 : if everyone could please buy so i can sell that would be great [2016-06-07 23:02:15] Mr Blue : And as for the summer islands, not yet aired in the show, we found it beautiful https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago [2016-06-07 23:08:15] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: how come your in a rush mate, you leveraged x25 + ? [2016-06-07 23:11:08] Mr Blue : If it does drop 550 to 565 seems to have heavy support [2016-06-07 23:20:12] mwalshe99 : i dont like sleeping in a position [2016-06-07 23:20:20] mwalshe99 : im all good down to like 330 [2016-06-07 23:20:29] mwalshe99 : but most of my liquidity is backup liquidity [2016-06-07 23:20:32] mwalshe99 : not to be used [2016-06-07 23:20:55] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: cool is that x5 ? [2016-06-07 23:21:01] mwalshe99 : cross [2016-06-07 23:24:08] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: I also don't like sleeping when in a position, but I could really do with that 2am magic boost when I'm normally asleep today lol [2016-06-07 23:26:34] mwalshe99 : yea i just set my alarms on cryptowatch [2016-06-07 23:26:37] mwalshe99 : nod off [2016-06-07 23:26:44] mwalshe99 : wow [2016-06-07 23:26:51] mwalshe99 : premium is literally the smallest its been in ages [2016-06-07 23:27:21] mwalshe99 : scary shit [2016-06-07 23:27:26] mwalshe99 : hype might be coming to an end [2016-06-07 23:27:41] mwalshe99 : on the plus side noone really gives a shit about this exchange so it doesn't impact outside :) [2016-06-07 23:31:50] Mr Blue : No just bearish news reports today, mainly bullshit, the scam group will of done well, after telling their lacky fake news sites to report bear news, but was just a bear trap I think so gain more BTC, so really they must plan to take it 600+ [2016-06-07 23:37:26] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: ye because you can't buy Bitcoin directly price doesn't effect the market here, apart from for the liquidity providers however they are [2016-06-07 23:39:16] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: I like this place so far, could do with more advertising, probably because it doesn't make crypto exchange lists due to not selling like that, but you can't fault the ability to make a profit here. [2016-06-07 23:43:57] Mr Blue : Whoever* [2016-06-07 23:52:37] lockhedge : arbitrage traders have a high influence on the price. a bitmex premium of >1% makes only sense if there are big arb opportunities (e.g. >2% premium in chinese markets). [2016-06-07 23:53:23] Mr Blue : Hmm this is closest I've seen price to spot here though @mwalshe99 [2016-06-07 23:57:05] Mr Blue : lockhedge: arb with Bitcoin is okay but it's a ball ache, most the time places like btc-e are $15 cheaper, but you got to sell your BTC then get money over there to buy extra back, Fiat fees involved in most cases [2016-06-07 23:58:02] Mr Blue : lockhedge: sorry miss understood you at first lol [2016-06-07 23:58:38] sleger : wow these new guys are chatty [2016-06-07 23:58:42] Mr Blue : lockhedge: ye true, but does seem low tonight and markets look the same tbh [2016-06-07 23:59:03] sleger : its because price is gonna crash [2016-06-07 23:59:15] sleger : even the devil is bidding tonight [2016-06-07 23:59:30] Mr Blue : Lol [2016-06-08 00:00:49] Mr Blue : sleger: we'll see [2016-06-08 00:01:44] arbitrage001 : Mr Blue: do you know how many coin is produce everyday by mining? [2016-06-08 00:04:09] sleger : same number for past few years dude [2016-06-08 00:05:50] arbitrage001 : most miners are looking for RoI [2016-06-08 00:06:04] arbitrage001 : 3600 btc per day [2016-06-08 00:06:19] sleger : funny just like the # of s per hour [2016-06-08 00:06:27] arbitrage001 : need around 2 millions usd infusion [2016-06-08 00:06:32] arbitrage001 : to keep price stable [2016-06-08 00:06:58] arbitrage001 : trading same coin back and forth [2016-06-08 00:07:05] arbitrage001 : doesnt really tell the story [2016-06-08 00:11:26] sleger : some guy took my bid for 66666 [2016-06-08 00:11:31] sleger : i just put it there for fun [2016-06-08 00:11:33] sleger : what an ass [2016-06-08 00:11:35] Mr Blue : arbitrage001: will be cut in half soon enough, ye I know it's high, but the global elites are the real shadows supporting Bitcoin, then again coinbase claims to have over 3 million customers, meaning not everybody could even have 6 coins lol [2016-06-08 00:11:35] sleger : :'( [2016-06-08 00:11:38] arbitrage001 : what price? [2016-06-08 00:11:42] Avalanche : Hello Guys [2016-06-08 00:11:42] sleger : 579 [2016-06-08 00:12:52] Avalanche : can someone help me, can we watch xbtusd chart on tradingview directly ? I couldn't find it there... [2016-06-08 00:13:16] Mr Blue : Avalanche: afternoon [2016-06-08 00:15:06] sleger : im back [2016-06-08 00:15:24] arbitrage001 : sleger: you still bullish? [2016-06-08 00:15:31] arbitrage001 : with the 66666 bid [2016-06-08 00:15:33] sleger : no [2016-06-08 00:15:44] Mr Blue : Lol [2016-06-08 00:15:46] sleger : just tiny bid for fun [2016-06-08 00:16:16] sleger : ouch [2016-06-08 00:16:23] sleger : stop hitting me people [2016-06-08 00:16:49] arbitrage001 : 578.66 is your bid ? [2016-06-08 00:16:49] sleger : there you go, am i bearish now ? [2016-06-08 00:16:57] sleger : it was [2016-06-08 00:17:03] arbitrage001 : lol [2016-06-08 00:17:06] arbitrage001 : actually [2016-06-08 00:17:07] sleger : now at 579 [2016-06-08 00:17:18] arbitrage001 : you get paid by market making [2016-06-08 00:17:37] sleger : no [2016-06-08 00:17:42] sleger : i get paid by fun [2016-06-08 00:17:44] arbitrage001 : maker fee [2016-06-08 00:17:45] sleger : and idiot [2016-06-08 00:18:02] arbitrage001 : need to head out for breakfast [2016-06-08 00:18:03] sleger : (supermine if you listen, please trade) [2016-06-08 00:18:08] arbitrage001 : chat another time [2016-06-08 00:21:07] Mr Blue : Bitcoin spot price Google $580.55 [2016-06-08 00:21:29] sleger : thanks for providing more lagging indicator [2016-06-08 00:23:04] Mr Blue : Google doesn't lag, but also looking other places but most seem to be getting rid Bitcoincharts.com not working [2016-06-08 00:23:24] sleger : sorry but usd price is 577 right now [2016-06-08 00:23:37] Mr Blue : Coin desk out of sync, just looking at few exchanges an Google at the moment [2016-06-08 00:25:24] sleger : feel free to look at lagging indicators and trade here [2016-06-08 00:26:11] Mr Blue : W.e [2016-06-08 00:27:13] Mr Blue : Coinbase 581 [2016-06-08 00:29:00] lockhedge : coinbase was at 483 today as well, better look at more liquid exchanges [2016-06-08 00:29:28] Mr Blue : Never seen that and I'm calling bullshit [2016-06-08 00:30:21] Mr Blue : Over 3 million according to coinbase [2016-06-08 00:30:41] Mr Blue : That means each couldn't even hold 6 BTC [2016-06-08 00:31:06] Mr Blue : 3 million customers [2016-06-08 00:31:50] lockhedge : yet another flash crash on gdax/coinbase today between 14:30 and 14:35 UTC https://tradeblock.com/markets/base/xbt-usd/30m/ [2016-06-08 00:32:20] Mr Blue : I don't follow links in chat mate [2016-06-08 00:32:38] sleger : well we all need idiots to look at illiquid exchanges to make their trading decisions right [2016-06-08 00:35:53] Mr Blue : W.e you work for fiñex or something?? [2016-06-08 00:39:18] sleger : W.e = ? [2016-06-08 00:39:41] sleger : Week end ? [2016-06-08 00:49:51] sleger : 579.00 66666 xx:03:43 who did that ? [2016-06-08 00:54:19] BitMEX_Sam : Flash crash was really something. Around https://api.gdax.com/products/BTC-USD/trades?before=9234400&after=9234500 [2016-06-08 00:56:38] sleger : 5btc worth ? [2016-06-08 00:56:53] BitMEX_Sam : Goes on for about 1000 trades around that marker [2016-06-08 00:57:40] sleger : yes but 5btc took the price 100$ lower ? [2016-06-08 00:58:17] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like all the liquidity had been tickled out in the minutes before and completely fell out [2016-06-08 00:59:22] BitMEX_Sam : Could have been buy/sell orders [2016-06-08 01:09:45] lockhedge : sleger: much more than 5btc, 20btc alone within these 100 trades https://api.gdax.com/products/BTC-USD/trades?before=9233900&after=9234000 [2016-06-08 01:23:29] micmix : I didn't check this one, previous crash couple weeks ago was 70 btc market sell [2016-06-08 01:24:13] micmix : liquidity is awful on coinbase [2016-06-08 01:26:26] rapidtrades : always said coinbase was trash [2016-06-08 01:26:39] lockhedge : 1970 trades within 500ms `{"time":"2016-06-07T14:33:13.021812Z","trade_id":9234481,"price":"475.00000000","size":"1.52359803","side":"buy"} {"time":"2016-06-07T14:33:12.509915Z","trade_id":9232511,"price":"575.01000000","size":"9.06073004","side":"buy"}` [2016-06-08 01:28:11] rapidtrades : glad the f*ckers are not polluting our index anymore [2016-06-08 01:28:26] lockhedge : strange that side is always "buy" [2016-06-08 01:30:18] micmix : lockhedge: coinbase is the only exchange the reports trade side as the side of the resting order, so it's supposed to be 'sell' [2016-06-08 01:30:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2000 @ 0.02572 [2016-06-08 01:31:11] micmix : *that reports [2016-06-08 01:33:35] supermine : Is a hidden order [2016-06-08 01:33:42] supermine : more expensive than normal limit order? [2016-06-08 01:34:22] rapidtrades : yes, u always pay the taker fee with hidden [2016-06-08 01:34:24] micmix : supermine: you pay the taker fee on the hidden part of the order [2016-06-08 01:34:30] supermine : oh ok [2016-06-08 01:34:39] supermine : I gues thats a fair price [2016-06-08 01:34:44] supermine : for such a great feature [2016-06-08 01:34:49] micmix : it's only 0.075% [2016-06-08 01:34:58] supermine : +1 [2016-06-08 01:35:01] supermine : thats great [2016-06-08 01:35:06] supermine : maker fee is half? [2016-06-08 01:35:10] supermine : never checked sorry [2016-06-08 01:35:57] micmix : maker is -0.025%, you get paid 0.025% [2016-06-08 01:40:48] supermine : oha [2016-06-08 01:40:50] supermine : didnt know [2016-06-08 01:40:54] supermine : thats awesome [2016-06-08 01:41:11] supermine : the house goes emtpy on maker? [2016-06-08 01:41:53] micmix : takers sponsor makers [2016-06-08 01:48:20] supermine : ahh got u [2016-06-08 01:48:25] supermine : great [2016-06-08 03:02:25] rentchev : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4mzhsp/what_is_going_on_over_at_coinbase_exchange_gdax/d3zrr0f [2016-06-08 03:02:36] rentchev : Coinbase flash crash [2016-06-08 03:03:01] rentchev : they say it was a 200 BTC order [2016-06-08 03:03:07] rentchev : that's crazy [2016-06-08 03:03:21] rentchev : Bitfinex will drop no more than $5-10 [2016-06-08 03:04:35] Mr Blue : Lol coinbase is at 576.80 I'm logged in to my account looking at charts, don't see it [2016-06-08 03:05:49] jung1 : http://imgur.com/aI5W5Ba [2016-06-08 03:09:54] rentchev : jung1: nice chart [2016-06-08 03:10:30] jung1 : btc can go down [2016-06-08 03:10:36] jung1 : lisk and eth up [2016-06-08 03:10:54] rentchev : LSK doesn't have reverse correlation with BTC [2016-06-08 03:10:56] rentchev : only ETH does [2016-06-08 03:11:12] rentchev : as you can see LSK is down [2016-06-08 03:11:22] rentchev : it did not go up like ETH on this BTC drop [2016-06-08 03:13:33] jung1 : check 2h chart, lisk is not going down [2016-06-08 03:13:59] jung1 : it will easy go over 0.001 [2016-06-08 03:14:03] rentchev : but it did not go up when BTC went down [2016-06-08 03:14:11] rentchev : yes it will [2016-06-08 03:14:16] rentchev : but not because BTC will go down [2016-06-08 03:14:26] jung1 : so far [2016-06-08 03:14:26] rentchev : even if BTC goes up LSK will still go up [2016-06-08 03:14:39] rentchev : I am saying there is no reverse correlation like with ETH [2016-06-08 03:14:50] rentchev : you are right [2016-06-08 03:14:54] rentchev : it might happen later [2016-06-08 03:15:01] rentchev : right now there isn't one [2016-06-08 03:19:02] jung1 : I bet on lisk in like 4months term [2016-06-08 03:19:58] jung1 : https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/740381605387239424 [2016-06-08 03:23:03] rentchev : how much LSK do you have jung1? [2016-06-08 03:23:22] jung1 : a bit [2016-06-08 03:23:23] rentchev : I am still holding all mine from the ICO [2016-06-08 03:23:28] jung1 : same [2016-06-08 03:23:52] jung1 : enough too go for retire if lisk will hit $10 [2016-06-08 03:24:02] jung1 : :) [2016-06-08 03:25:00] rentchev : I will probably sell at $2 or $3 [2016-06-08 03:25:02] rentchev : :-) [2016-06-08 03:25:30] rentchev : maybe half at $2 and half at $3 [2016-06-08 03:25:34] rentchev : if it gets there [2016-06-08 03:26:08] rentchev : interesting that Pol added ETH/LSK [2016-06-08 03:26:16] rentchev : I wonder if people will trade that [2016-06-08 03:26:21] jung1 : yeah [2016-06-08 03:26:27] jung1 : would be funny to watch [2016-06-08 03:27:10] jung1 : it seems like polo bet on lisk too [2016-06-08 03:27:23] jung1 : ime they will add lisk to margin market also [2016-06-08 03:27:32] rentchev : it should have been the other way around [2016-06-08 03:27:34] rentchev : LSK/ETH [2016-06-08 03:27:38] rentchev : now I can't buy it [2016-06-08 03:27:42] rentchev : because it will go down [2016-06-08 03:27:50] rentchev : but there is no margin trading [2016-06-08 03:28:08] rentchev : so I bet the volume will be very low [2016-06-08 03:28:09] jung1 : https://poloniex.com/marginTrading [2016-06-08 03:28:30] rentchev : click on the ETH tab [2016-06-08 03:28:35] rentchev : no pairs for margin [2016-06-08 03:29:51] jung1 : yeah there is only btc margin so far [2016-06-08 03:30:07] jung1 : but margin on altcoins on polo is wildride [2016-06-08 03:30:13] jung1 : love it [2016-06-08 03:30:19] rentchev : yep [2016-06-08 03:44:23] jung1 : but quite funny is eth/dao pair [2016-06-08 03:44:27] jung1 : its basicly the same [2016-06-08 03:49:11] rentchev : yeah [2016-06-08 03:49:14] rentchev : that is weird [2016-06-08 03:49:30] rentchev : BTC no volume now on Bitfinex [2016-06-08 03:54:15] rentchev : oh wait [2016-06-08 03:54:18] rentchev : I was wrong [2016-06-08 03:54:29] rentchev : jung1: the pair is LSK/ETH [2016-06-08 03:54:50] rentchev : so I can buy at 0.029 [2016-06-08 03:55:03] rentchev : this can go easy to 0.1 [2016-06-08 04:07:34] mbaril : okcoin squeeze is now [2016-06-08 04:07:38] mbaril : ahaha [2016-06-08 04:07:40] mbaril : ok coin [2016-06-08 04:08:05] mbaril : we will now see if its cgoing up or down [2016-06-08 04:08:15] yerb : are there any shortcut keys for buy and sell? [2016-06-08 04:09:57] mbaril : so much bot trading :p [2016-06-08 07:21:10] rapidtrades : good morning fellas [2016-06-08 07:21:48] rapidtrades : how are u doing this fine morning [2016-06-08 07:23:03] micmix : rapidtrades: it's boooring :smile: [2016-06-08 07:23:16] vbmithr : good :) [2016-06-08 07:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 89 @ 0.02513 [2016-06-08 07:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.02517 [2016-06-08 07:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 40 @ 0.02513 [2016-06-08 07:40:10] rapidtrades : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brits-saving-dolphin-uk-beach-152430146.html [2016-06-08 08:05:31] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: good morning fella. When we break 600 what do you have as next resistance line? I have 657 [2016-06-08 08:07:42] BTCDJS : That guy is from durham. thats where I live :) [2016-06-08 08:12:42] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yeah its around there [2016-06-08 08:12:59] rapidtrades : could start from 650 cos its semi-round number [2016-06-08 08:13:49] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: do you think we will pass 650? [2016-06-08 08:14:04] BTCDJS : to the next resistance line [2016-06-08 08:14:42] rapidtrades : i don't know but 650 is more likely then 500 [2016-06-08 08:14:50] BTCDJS : which I have as 680. then 740 [2016-06-08 08:15:26] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: yeah maybe there has to be a correction after that surely. [2016-06-08 08:17:34] rapidtrades : i have $666 and $700 on btc-e [2016-06-08 08:17:51] rapidtrades : what charts are u looking at @BTCDJS [2016-06-08 08:19:52] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I have only gone and drawn all my lines on tradingview bitstamp chart. Cant be bothered yet to draw them on finex or okcoin yet. but I do allow for differences in prices. its a guide for now anyway. Its done me good so far [2016-06-08 08:20:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: thanks. gotta go [2016-06-08 08:22:12] rapidtrades : finex has them at 665, 685 and 700 [2016-06-08 09:57:46] aethlios : Now that we have one contract, think to add a weekly options market with the swap as underlying. Only weekly to keep liquidity concentrated. [2016-06-08 10:00:05] BitMEX_Arthur : aethlios: I'm interested to hear your ideas on that, particularly how to handle users selling naked options [2016-06-08 10:00:18] BitMEX_Arthur : send me an email at arthur@bitmex.com with any suggestions you have [2016-06-08 10:06:07] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: Ok let me think it a few hours. [2016-06-08 10:17:42] sq : yes woudl be great to hv optgions! [2016-06-08 10:28:19] BitMEX_Arthur : sq: send your ideas, and we can chat over email [2016-06-08 10:37:11] BTCDJS : as the song says: all rise [2016-06-08 10:43:47] sq : ok will think bout it n send u an email if anything [2016-06-08 11:38:09] Blargwaffle : BitMEX_Arthur: You've seen how coinut handles it, right? [2016-06-08 11:39:54] rapidtrades : Blargwaffle: handles what [2016-06-08 11:40:08] Blargwaffle : Naked option margin requerments. [2016-06-08 11:40:45] rapidtrades : bitcoin options? [2016-06-08 11:40:52] Blargwaffle : Yeah. [2016-06-08 11:40:57] rapidtrades : wat [2016-06-08 11:41:08] rapidtrades : since when [2016-06-08 11:41:17] Blargwaffle : I'm not sure how long they've been around. [2016-06-08 11:41:27] ggwp : over 2 yrs [2016-06-08 11:41:32] ggwp : I think [2016-06-08 11:41:48] ggwp : pretty respectable [2016-06-08 11:42:02] Blargwaffle : I've used them, just bemoan their lack of volume. [2016-06-08 11:42:11] rapidtrades : Blargwaffle: link me luftwaffe [2016-06-08 11:42:12] ggwp : yeah [2016-06-08 11:42:19] ggwp : agreed [2016-06-08 11:42:27] Blargwaffle : https://coinut.com/ [2016-06-08 11:43:27] rapidtrades : those are some wideass spreads [2016-06-08 11:44:53] BitMEX_Arthur : I haven't really taken a close look at their platform [2016-06-08 11:48:49] Blargwaffle : Looks like 40% margin requirement for atm. [2016-06-08 11:49:04] rapidtrades : 40% of what [2016-06-08 11:49:20] Blargwaffle : The strike. [2016-06-08 11:49:34] Blargwaffle : https://coinut.com/margin [2016-06-08 11:54:17] Blargwaffle : Weekly to 2 months out options would be nice. [2016-06-08 11:56:30] Blargwaffle : But, a means of handling contingent orders would be pretty important. A hefty task. [2016-06-08 11:57:56] BitMEX_Wally : The trading engine supports OTO and OCO etc. we just need to add it to the GUI [2016-06-08 11:58:50] Blargwaffle : I'm talking about option contingent orders. [2016-06-08 11:59:24] Blargwaffle : Coinut doesn't even have that. [2016-06-08 12:01:39] rapidtrades : I bet ggwp is shitting his pants right now [2016-06-08 12:01:56] rapidtrades : deucing his underwear! [2016-06-08 12:02:03] BitMEX_Wally : Blargwaffle: How does an option contingent order differ from a normal contingent order? [2016-06-08 12:03:42] Blargwaffle : Does the current implementation you speak of have all "legs" on the market at once? [2016-06-08 12:04:08] ggwp : top kek to you [2016-06-08 12:04:17] ggwp : closed my short a while ago [2016-06-08 12:04:42] rapidtrades : if u didn't post it here, u didn't close shit [2016-06-08 12:05:13] Blargwaffle : Needs more /position XBTUSD command. [2016-06-08 12:05:17] BitMEX_Wally : With an OCO pair you can have 2 legs that cancel each other then one gets executed [2016-06-08 12:05:30] BitMEX_Wally : With OTO when one order is filled it can trigger another order (or set of orders) to be placed [2016-06-08 12:05:31] Rasign : rapidtrades: lol you made me laught [2016-06-08 12:05:41] ggwp : rapidtrades: haha [2016-06-08 12:05:58] BitMEX_Wally : We support MarketIfTouched and LimitIfTouched orders that can be triggered based on mark price or last price, etc etc [2016-06-08 12:06:24] Blargwaffle : Well, the contingent order for options I'm thinking of has the entire set of legs out on the market with one price which someone can agree to take. [2016-06-08 12:06:50] BitMEX_Wally : Kind of like a calendar spread? [2016-06-08 12:07:13] Rasign : rapidtrades: 1 [2016-06-08 12:07:20] Rasign : You Will cry soon [2016-06-08 12:07:23] Blargwaffle : Well, any combination... [2016-06-08 12:07:39] BitMEX_Wally : Blargwaffle: I think I understand what you mean [2016-06-08 12:07:56] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: for example, 1 option costs $1 other costs $4...u place an offer for $3.5 to buy em cheap [2016-06-08 12:08:06] Blargwaffle : I suppose there could be a pre-execution stage where more than one counterparty could be found for each leg.