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[2016-06-04 23:39:46] Mr Blue : LMAO just noticed Coin Desk has added Bitstamp to its charts, maybe I should go x35 lol
[2016-06-04 23:40:35] Mr Blue : Was also a news post few hours ago saying how it would be easy for Bitstamp to reach $600 lol
[2016-06-04 23:42:41] rapidtrades : so noone wants to buy above 575
[2016-06-04 23:43:38] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I might if I see it going 600 lol
[2016-06-04 23:44:48] ggwp : more like 500
[2016-06-04 23:44:52] ggwp : or 400
[2016-06-04 23:44:58] ggwp : or 99
[2016-06-04 23:45:03] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-04 23:45:11] rapidtrades : or 1.99
[2016-06-04 23:45:25] ggwp : works for me
[2016-06-04 23:46:00] rapidtrades : cmon bitcoin do ur thing
[2016-06-04 23:46:09] ggwp : it's limbo atm
[2016-06-04 23:46:27] rapidtrades : this will be over by the end of june
[2016-06-04 23:46:42] ggwp : but it's looking weak af
[2016-06-04 23:46:59] rapidtrades : we're $15 below highs...
[2016-06-04 23:47:21] ggwp : this halving might kill btc
[2016-06-04 23:47:55] ggwp : unless someone out there is willing to mine at a loss
[2016-06-04 23:48:07] rapidtrades : cry me a river
[2016-06-04 23:48:24] Mr Blue : Your very ? today @ggwp
[2016-06-04 23:49:23] rapidtrades : we're now more then double from october...if any miners are knocked out, they were close to being out back then too
[2016-06-04 23:49:26] rapidtrades : also f em
[2016-06-04 23:49:42] Mr Blue : Lol
[2016-06-04 23:51:27] ggwp : "f the miners"
[2016-06-04 23:51:28] ggwp : yes
[2016-06-04 23:51:47] ggwp : we dont need them anyway
[2016-06-04 23:53:09] ggwp : china wants down
[2016-06-04 23:53:23] rapidtrades : stop lying snake
[2016-06-04 23:53:25] ggwp : grumpy in the morning
[2016-06-04 23:56:17] ggwp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Cau8U2ho
[2016-06-04 23:57:40] ggwp : that's where we're headed cap'n
[2016-06-05 00:00:06] Mr Blue : If I see Bitstamp go 580 before spot increases here, I'll go x35 and eat the lot lol
[2016-06-05 00:01:55] 1QaZxSw2 : 35x is for pansies. Real men only do 50x
[2016-06-05 00:02:28] ggwp : 100x is the
[2016-06-05 00:02:34] ggwp : REAL DEAL
[2016-06-05 00:02:58] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: lmao, I don't have the balls for that just yet mate
[2016-06-05 00:03:37] 1QaZxSw2 : time was, when you did a 100 trades at 100x, you got a special award
[2016-06-05 00:03:52] ggwp : what was it?
[2016-06-05 00:03:56] 1QaZxSw2 : it was called REKT
[2016-06-05 00:03:58] Mr Blue : ggwp: haha I bet they where the days, but I'm too scared to try x50 never mind x100
[2016-06-05 00:04:12] ggwp : behehe
[2016-06-05 00:06:03] 1QaZxSw2 : real balls, tho is trading at 500x
[2016-06-05 00:06:42] ggwp : no 500x for btc
[2016-06-05 00:06:54] 1QaZxSw2 : There is: http://imgur.com/BbSuZYH
[2016-06-05 00:06:57] ggwp : find me one and I'll send you a tip
[2016-06-05 00:07:16] messiaen8844 : 400x at coinpit
[2016-06-05 00:07:37] 1QaZxSw2 : due to increase in btc price, its 500x now
[2016-06-05 00:07:52] ggwp : have you traded there?
[2016-06-05 00:08:18] 1QaZxSw2 : i should
[2016-06-05 00:10:00] ggwp : spreads?
[2016-06-05 00:10:38] 1QaZxSw2 : they mentioned they are working on brining the spread down to 1 or 2t
[2016-06-05 00:11:11] ggwp : huh
[2016-06-05 00:11:24] ggwp : doesn't sound bad
[2016-06-05 00:11:53] ggwp : little sketchy tbh though
[2016-06-05 00:12:56] 1QaZxSw2 : as far as new exchanges are concerned, they are trying to be trustless
[2016-06-05 00:13:16] ggwp : yeah, looks like it
[2016-06-05 00:13:28] ggwp : alright. Imma hit the hay
[2016-06-05 00:13:37] ggwp : g
[2016-06-05 00:13:40] ggwp : *gn
[2016-06-05 00:13:40] Mr Blue : ggwp: night mate
[2016-06-05 00:13:53] ggwp : gn to u too Blue
[2016-06-05 00:14:07] 1QaZxSw2 : gn
[2016-06-05 00:14:14] 1QaZxSw2 : looks like mkt is trying to go for 580
[2016-06-05 00:14:29] 1QaZxSw2 : or maybe im just optimistic
[2016-06-05 00:18:50] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: 580 is a good guess mate
[2016-06-05 00:19:08] 1QaZxSw2 : i know, everyone is thinking 600 coz round number
[2016-06-05 00:19:20] 1QaZxSw2 : but its best to be modest when taking profits
[2016-06-05 00:20:17] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: I look to £400, but ye 600 was breached by ok coin and people think today it's Bitstamp turn to shine
[2016-06-05 00:20:18] 1QaZxSw2 : and the way it will look is that it will struggle here for what seems like a long time and then -- pop -- its at 580
[2016-06-05 00:21:12] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: or hopefully 590 ? but I'm greedy
[2016-06-05 00:22:52] 1QaZxSw2 : after a certain point, sellers will simply wait for 600, so i think if we break up here, its 580, then 600
[2016-06-05 00:23:29] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: some good swings ahead, that much we know for sure
[2016-06-05 00:23:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: That's what I was going to say. I think if we go above 580 again the top is almost certainly retested
[2016-06-05 00:23:46] 1QaZxSw2 : anything is better than chop mr. blue
[2016-06-05 00:23:52] Mr Blue : Only problem if the fact I must sleep at some point lol
[2016-06-05 00:24:13] 1QaZxSw2 : stop orders and limit orders bro, sleep tight
[2016-06-05 00:25:16] 1QaZxSw2 : jesus, i should just you know do a DAO type project to get $140 million
[2016-06-05 00:25:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i would use it for good projects, only i promise
[2016-06-05 00:25:47] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: lol
[2016-06-05 00:26:56] Mr Blue : Nice ?
[2016-06-05 00:27:16] 1QaZxSw2 : i have a project code named "Hookers and Booze"
[2016-06-05 00:27:26] Mr Blue : Entry price is 574.77
[2016-06-05 00:27:46] Mr Blue : What you guys jump in at?
[2016-06-05 00:27:55] 1QaZxSw2 : 574.5
[2016-06-05 00:28:00] 1QaZxSw2 : big position
[2016-06-05 00:28:21] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: nice, any clue how much?
[2016-06-05 00:28:45] 1QaZxSw2 : 10K+
[2016-06-05 00:28:50] Mr Blue : Nice
[2016-06-05 00:28:56] Mr Blue : Same here
[2016-06-05 00:29:22] 1QaZxSw2 : oh after the doldrums of the last year, finally we can trade for real
[2016-06-05 00:29:44] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: +1
[2016-06-05 00:35:15] 1QaZxSw2 : i need to sleep too. at least for a bit but its hard with a position open
[2016-06-05 00:36:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: I'll buy it from you for 575 ;)
[2016-06-05 00:36:32] 1QaZxSw2 : oh you smart dog, you!
[2016-06-05 00:37:20] Mr Blue : I just sold 10000 no idea why lol 13,000 left
[2016-06-05 00:38:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: Probably a reasonable call. We're getting close to previous resistance from this morning and the past few days
[2016-06-05 00:39:23] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: also a reason called profit, but I'm not fully out of my position yet, still hoping for some 585+ magic
[2016-06-05 00:39:31] 1QaZxSw2 : even if it wants to turn down, it should pop first
[2016-06-05 00:39:37] 1QaZxSw2 : its chop till pop
[2016-06-05 00:39:54] trimethylcyclohexen : Hello all.
[2016-06-05 00:39:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: That would be very nice
[2016-06-05 00:40:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: hello
[2016-06-05 00:40:24] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: morning
[2016-06-05 00:41:08] 1QaZxSw2 : 578 already 2 more pts to 1st target
[2016-06-05 00:43:20] trimethylcyclohexen : @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb @Mr Blue Thanks to all samewise
[2016-06-05 00:43:46] Mr Blue : ?
[2016-06-05 00:45:24] trimethylcyclohexen : Any enlightenment or references on how to better understand the structure of the _perpetual swaps_ .. ?
[2016-06-05 00:46:03] trimethylcyclohexen : (in addition to it's official documentation ... :)
[2016-06-05 00:46:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: There's a blog post on it
[2016-06-05 00:46:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Multiple posts actually, I'll find links
[2016-06-05 00:46:19] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: buy low sell high lol o.j
[2016-06-05 00:46:38] trimethylcyclohexen : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: on the bitmex blog ?
[2016-06-05 00:46:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : yes
[2016-06-05 00:47:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: https://blog.bitmex.com/why-xbtusd-is-a-superior-trading-product/
[2016-06-05 00:47:25] 1QaZxSw2 : basically, most folks here treat it like a futures that does not expire, but with various fees that we dont fully understand, like financing, settlement, etc
[2016-06-05 00:47:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://blog.bitmex.com/announcing-the-launch-of-the-perpetual-xbtusd-leveraged-swap/
[2016-06-05 00:47:50] 1QaZxSw2 : so depending on how long you hold it, just treat it like a futures
[2016-06-05 00:47:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-06-05 00:48:07] trimethylcyclohexen : Mr Blue: lol !! Satoshi engulfed a Revolution !
[2016-06-05 00:48:32] 1QaZxSw2 : there are fees every 8 hrs
[2016-06-05 00:48:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://blog.bitmex.com/swaps-101/
[2016-06-05 00:48:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: There are all your links. 4 I think
[2016-06-05 00:48:51] trimethylcyclohexen : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thank you genuinely indeed. Honorably kind : )
[2016-06-05 00:49:08] 1QaZxSw2 : yea, but i gave you the TLDR
[2016-06-05 00:49:19] 1QaZxSw2 : awesome fist target filled
[2016-06-05 00:49:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: good call
[2016-06-05 00:49:53] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: here I have my own theories about who created Bitcoin, but I won't get in to that well hot trading action is on, talk soon guys
[2016-06-05 00:50:05] 1QaZxSw2 : thx, i think 590 is actually closer now because once it pops it pops good
[2016-06-05 00:50:16] 1QaZxSw2 : if its gonna fakeout, it will fake out in the next hour or so
[2016-06-05 00:50:31] 1QaZxSw2 : next target is 585
[2016-06-05 00:50:46] 1QaZxSw2 : then small amounts for 590 and 600
[2016-06-05 00:50:48] trimethylcyclohexen : Mr Blue: Sounds interesting be well
[2016-06-05 00:50:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: Let me guess, then 590, 595, 600, 605, 610, etc? ;)
[2016-06-05 00:51:27] 1QaZxSw2 : actually, after 590, its a big unknown
[2016-06-05 00:51:33] 1QaZxSw2 : good chance it will sell off
[2016-06-05 00:51:45] 1QaZxSw2 : may even fall short just a bit
[2016-06-05 00:52:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 578.31
[2016-06-05 00:52:50] 1QaZxSw2 : check the prior swing point https://cryptowat.ch/bitstamp/btcusd/1h
[2016-06-05 00:53:32] 1QaZxSw2 : all the geniuses who bought at the peak will unload at 590. unless buying interest breaks much higher, we may turn down
[2016-06-05 00:58:28] 1QaZxSw2 : 585 filled. i remember people would get disappointed if bitcoin only doubled in one day
[2016-06-05 00:59:12] 1QaZxSw2 : actually im out of most of my position
[2016-06-05 00:59:17] 1QaZxSw2 : only 2000c left
[2016-06-05 00:59:55] Mr Blue : I have 10,000 left to sell got at 574.77
[2016-06-05 01:00:23] 1QaZxSw2 : damn, you da real baller, mr. blue
[2016-06-05 01:00:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i gotta call you blue baller
[2016-06-05 01:01:03] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: haha thanks but I just sold like 15,000 at 577
[2016-06-05 01:01:22] 1QaZxSw2 : well as long as you made bank
[2016-06-05 01:01:31] 1QaZxSw2 : you can go home and spank ;)
[2016-06-05 01:01:39] Mr Blue : True profit is profit
[2016-06-05 01:02:52] Mr Blue : I'm actually quite proud of my self, if of normally sold the lot by now, but holding for 590 or till I see red candals
[2016-06-05 01:03:34] Mr Blue : 20% ROE
[2016-06-05 01:03:41] 1QaZxSw2 : trading is mostly about not being shaken out
[2016-06-05 01:03:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 583.06
[2016-06-05 01:03:48] Mr Blue : 22% ?
[2016-06-05 01:04:23] ggwp : down from here
[2016-06-05 01:04:24] 1QaZxSw2 : http://imgur.com/1R159lB
[2016-06-05 01:04:34] 1QaZxSw2 : i dont know if this incluses the stuff i already sold
[2016-06-05 01:05:08] 1QaZxSw2 : i could get used to 50%+
[2016-06-05 01:05:23] ggwp : alar
[2016-06-05 01:05:25] ggwp : m
[2016-06-05 01:05:28] ggwp : woke me :/
[2016-06-05 01:06:01] ggwp : sending more funds to short :D
[2016-06-05 01:08:08] 1QaZxSw2 : does anyone know if the swaps work like quantos
[2016-06-05 01:08:40] 1QaZxSw2 : like better for longs and a bad deal for shorts
[2016-06-05 01:10:13] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: it's inverse, so it's better for shorts than longs in BTC terms
[2016-06-05 01:10:40] 1QaZxSw2 : ah ok. so this is a different curve from their 100x futures
[2016-06-05 01:12:11] zanza : inverse is like okc rifht
[2016-06-05 01:13:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: yes that's correct
[2016-06-05 01:15:39] 1QaZxSw2 : should i keep the last few contracts till 590 or take what i can get here?
[2016-06-05 01:16:09] 1QaZxSw2 : zanza stark?
[2016-06-05 01:17:06] ggwp : you going short
[2016-06-05 01:17:16] ggwp : or taking profits
[2016-06-05 01:17:26] 1QaZxSw2 : taking profit
[2016-06-05 01:17:34] 1QaZxSw2 : not sure i want to short till i see 590
[2016-06-05 01:18:05] Mr Blue : I only have 5200 left, sold 5000 at 587 just in case lol
[2016-06-05 01:18:19] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 01:18:25] ggwp : congrats to both
[2016-06-05 01:18:38] ggwp : I'm shorting this range hard
[2016-06-05 01:19:15] Mr Blue : But ye I'd hold still green candals on all exchanges, I'll sell at 585+ just because I need some sleep though
[2016-06-05 01:19:54] ggwp : sleep is good for trading
[2016-06-05 01:20:19] 1QaZxSw2 : i hate being stampeded by bulls
[2016-06-05 01:20:24] 1QaZxSw2 : they are herd creatures
[2016-06-05 01:20:33] Mr Blue : ggwp: I only got 6 hours yesterday, so need to catch up
[2016-06-05 01:20:50] 1QaZxSw2 : i prefer to have them run till they are tired and then i can turn bear and feast on them
[2016-06-05 01:20:56] ggwp : ye
[2016-06-05 01:21:50] Mr Blue : A whale doesn't care, eats at all levels then takes a dump when it wants lol
[2016-06-05 01:22:15] 1QaZxSw2 : ya if you got loads of coins, you have a vareity of plays
[2016-06-05 01:24:08] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: would be nice
[2016-06-05 01:24:58] 1QaZxSw2 : the point is, how many of us dare to put $20K on a trade?
[2016-06-05 01:25:11] 1QaZxSw2 : heck how many would put $20 in a crypto exchange
[2016-06-05 01:25:23] 1QaZxSw2 : too dangerous bro
[2016-06-05 01:26:03] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: ye but not so bad with this leverage
[2016-06-05 01:26:42] Mr Blue : Here we go again p
[2016-06-05 01:27:44] Mr Blue : Only ItBit letting the side down or spot would be higher I guess
[2016-06-05 01:29:17] 1QaZxSw2 : 590 doesnt look too far
[2016-06-05 01:30:05] Mr Blue : Ye but I'm already in bed lol 585 will do me
[2016-06-05 01:30:36] 24hourz : Let the man sleep hahhaha
[2016-06-05 01:30:49] 1QaZxSw2 : so shorts get paid financing charges?
[2016-06-05 01:30:58] Mr Blue : That 3000 buy is tempting me tho lol
[2016-06-05 01:31:01] 1QaZxSw2 : could basically lend your btc
[2016-06-05 01:32:04] 24hourz : on the last ltc halving very little sleep hahah
[2016-06-05 01:32:13] Mr Blue : ItBit just increased, frig it I wait for 590
[2016-06-05 01:36:23] ggwp : no 590 imo
[2016-06-05 01:45:58] stf28 : directly to 600
[2016-06-05 01:47:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3299 @ 583.71
[2016-06-05 01:47:45] Mr Blue : Sold ? prob a little early but I need sleep, night guys happy trading
[2016-06-05 01:48:14] ggwp : g
[2016-06-05 01:48:16] ggwp : n
[2016-06-05 01:51:30] 24hourz : get some rest man
[2016-06-05 01:51:39] 24hourz : hahaha
[2016-06-05 02:03:55] micmix : don't sleep kids, trade some more, daddy needs more coins :smile:
[2016-06-05 02:09:22] 1QaZxSw2 : sweet jesus, its going to 590
[2016-06-05 02:11:04] ggwp : good short entry
[2016-06-05 02:11:16] ggwp : but inverse h&s just played out
[2016-06-05 02:11:18] micmix : it's a good old weekend pump, can go $600+
[2016-06-05 02:11:28] 24hourz : break 600 this weekend ?
[2016-06-05 02:12:08] ggwp : also bear div
[2016-06-05 02:12:29] 24hourz : The bulls want to run though
[2016-06-05 02:13:15] micmix : don't know about this weekend but China is going to try another run @ 4000 before halvening
[2016-06-05 02:13:51] ggwp : we need a healthy retrace before that
[2016-06-05 02:14:04] ggwp : running low on fuel up here
[2016-06-05 02:14:06] ggwp : also air is thinning
[2016-06-05 02:17:31] micmix : it's hard to say anything on shorter timeframes but I've built another long on XBTM16 when they were cheap
[2016-06-05 02:18:34] 1QaZxSw2 : cmon baby bid it up
[2016-06-05 02:19:24] micmix : XBTUSD will be much more expensive to long when finex bids up the USD lending rate again
[2016-06-05 02:19:44] 1QaZxSw2 : how is finex connected to bitmex
[2016-06-05 02:19:55] 1QaZxSw2 : i mean, dont sellers here finance the buyers?
[2016-06-05 02:21:38] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: https://blog.bitmex.com/announcing-the-launch-of-the-perpetual-xbtusd-leveraged-swap/
[2016-06-05 02:22:11] micmix : "Longs and shorts receive or pay interest each day based on the Bitfinex USD and Bitcoin lending market"
[2016-06-05 02:22:34] 1QaZxSw2 : ah
[2016-06-05 02:22:52] 1QaZxSw2 : so you receive interest and on top of that you get pnl
[2016-06-05 02:23:08] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/earning-interest-income-on-xbtusd-with-minimised-risk/
[2016-06-05 02:23:21] micmix : usually you receive interest when short and pay when long
[2016-06-05 02:24:06] 1QaZxSw2 : is that only when btc is bullish? what happens when btc is bearish? shorts pay and longs earn?
[2016-06-05 02:24:38] 1QaZxSw2 : check out the tight spread
[2016-06-05 02:25:23] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: if it get so bearish that BTC lending rate on finex becomes higher that USD rate then shorts will pay
[2016-06-05 02:25:47] micmix : as far as I remember it happens but it's very rare
[2016-06-05 02:28:18] 1QaZxSw2 : so basically, i should just short here when the market stalls, which could be today or never
[2016-06-05 02:29:31] ggwp : what do you guys think of the volume on this rally?
[2016-06-05 02:29:35] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: read the blog post that Wally linked, you shouldn't just short bc the price could pop at any time
[2016-06-05 02:29:37] ggwp : seems fairly low
[2016-06-05 02:29:53] ggwp : in general
[2016-06-05 02:29:55] 1QaZxSw2 : right, thanks
[2016-06-05 02:30:00] ggwp : compared to the previous one
[2016-06-05 02:32:49] BitMEX_Wally : If you have dollars you can go long Bitcoin on a spot exchange and then short XBTUSD here. No risk
[2016-06-05 02:32:59] BitMEX_Wally : (no price risk that is)
[2016-06-05 02:33:31] 1QaZxSw2 : ah yes, makes sense wally
[2016-06-05 02:33:52] micmix : assuming you have bitcoin already you can just short here but not more than USD value of your coins
[2016-06-05 02:34:08] 1QaZxSw2 : so if i have 100 coins, how many contracts can i short
[2016-06-05 02:34:26] ggwp : whatever 100 coins is worth in usd now?
[2016-06-05 02:34:33] ggwp : 1 contract = 1 usd
[2016-06-05 02:34:44] 1QaZxSw2 : 580000?
[2016-06-05 02:34:44] BitMEX_Wally : Each contract is worth 1 USD, so if the price is 585 you can short 58500 contracts at 1x leverage
[2016-06-05 02:35:20] 1QaZxSw2 : thats sweet. and i would get whatever bitfinex interest rate is
[2016-06-05 02:35:38] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and you don't need to keep all 100 coins on BitMEX. Keep them safe in cold storage and just put 5% or so on here
[2016-06-05 02:36:24] micmix : but you have to understand that you will not gain anything when bitcoin goes up
[2016-06-05 02:37:22] micmix : basically you will lock the current USD value of your coins plus earn interest
[2016-06-05 02:37:26] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: do you see my deposit yet?
[2016-06-05 02:37:46] BitMEX_Wally : A pending deposit will appear in your wallet: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-06-05 02:38:22] ggwp : mhm
[2016-06-05 02:38:26] ggwp : ty
[2016-06-05 02:39:55] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, so thats why order value decreases when price moves up
[2016-06-05 02:40:28] 1QaZxSw2 : given most bitcoiners are permabulls, shorting is probably the contrarian move
[2016-06-05 02:41:24] 1QaZxSw2 : i have a stop order, so i can go to sleep. can bitmex confirm that stop order is on last price and not mark price?
[2016-06-05 02:41:43] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: stop orders are on mark price
[2016-06-05 02:42:03] 1QaZxSw2 : what? so i could be stopped out and i wont even know why
[2016-06-05 02:42:32] 24hourz : yeah
[2016-06-05 02:42:44] 1QaZxSw2 : im guessing they have something to smooth out blips in the mark price
[2016-06-05 02:42:54] 24hourz : Could we have the option to go off the last price ?
[2016-06-05 02:43:12] 1QaZxSw2 : i think it would screw up their risk management if they did
[2016-06-05 02:43:54] 24hourz : it could be done with bots ? It shouldn't mess it up if it is just a stop loss right ?
[2016-06-05 02:45:16] 1QaZxSw2 : so many prices: last price, fair price, mark price.
[2016-06-05 02:46:02] ggwp : here we go, drop the bass
[2016-06-05 02:46:22] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, so thats why if i buy at 574 and the price moves to 575, it still shows -ve ROE
[2016-06-05 02:46:48] 1QaZxSw2 : however, if you sell at 575, you get a profit?
[2016-06-05 02:47:07] 1QaZxSw2 : or should exit price go above mark price
[2016-06-05 02:47:44] ggwp : major selloff on the way :D
[2016-06-05 02:47:53] 1QaZxSw2 : good call there ggwp
[2016-06-05 02:48:01] 1QaZxSw2 : im out of all but 1000 contracts
[2016-06-05 02:48:48] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 02:48:55] ggwp : you won't regret
[2016-06-05 02:49:05] BitMEX_Wally : 24hourz: You can set a stop order that is triggered by last price using the API
[2016-06-05 02:49:34] BitMEX_Wally : send `execInst=LastPrice`
[2016-06-05 02:50:35] 1QaZxSw2 : great, will the lastprice stop be available on UI?
[2016-06-05 02:50:54] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we might make it the default too
[2016-06-05 02:51:02] rentchev : @ggwp why do you think major sell off is coming?
[2016-06-05 02:51:03] 1QaZxSw2 : fantastic.
[2016-06-05 02:51:14] ggwp : rentchev: correction
[2016-06-05 02:51:20] ggwp : we need one badly
[2016-06-05 02:51:25] rentchev : it's due for correction I guess
[2016-06-05 02:51:31] ggwp : but don't trade on my advice
[2016-06-05 02:51:38] ggwp : I'm no pro
[2016-06-05 02:51:40] rentchev : I want to see a healthy correction as well before the next move
[2016-06-05 02:51:55] rentchev : :-)
[2016-06-05 02:52:03] rentchev : I had a short before you mention it
[2016-06-05 02:52:09] rentchev : have a stop as well
[2016-06-05 02:52:12] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 02:52:19] ggwp : entry?
[2016-06-05 02:52:27] rentchev : 584.5
[2016-06-05 02:52:34] ggwp : very nice :)
[2016-06-05 02:53:21] rentchev : well not much yet
[2016-06-05 02:53:23] rentchev : lets see
[2016-06-05 02:53:40] rentchev : it moves easy on the upside
[2016-06-05 02:55:10] ggwp : we shall see
[2016-06-05 02:55:23] ggwp : 577 breaks and down we go imo
[2016-06-05 02:55:34] rentchev : do you have a chart?
[2016-06-05 02:55:40] rentchev : is 577 support?
[2016-06-05 02:55:52] ggwp : only on cryptowatch
[2016-06-05 02:56:53] 24hourz : looks like btfx was a single order lasrge dump or maybe liquidation
[2016-06-05 02:57:31] rentchev : yeah
[2016-06-05 02:57:37] rentchev : bitfinex is leading the downside
[2016-06-05 02:57:45] rentchev : China still not moving much
[2016-06-05 02:58:38] 24hourz : plus once a coin gets some steam it will go up without much correction until a huge dump when it burts. Happened with ltc during halving
[2016-06-05 02:59:41] rentchev : XBTUSD has a $5 premium
[2016-06-05 02:59:50] rentchev : that's a lot for the current conditions
[2016-06-05 03:02:12] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally: are you going to keep the quarterly contracts?
[2016-06-05 03:02:23] rentchev : I love trading them together with the Swap
[2016-06-05 03:03:04] rentchev : they are good for long term trades
[2016-06-05 03:34:23] rentchev : @ggwp https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/nCdJPXn5-BTC-correction-coming-soon/
[2016-06-05 03:34:39] rentchev : Here is a 4 hr chart I created
[2016-06-05 03:39:44] 24hourz : unless it breaks out of the channel
[2016-06-05 03:49:00] rentchev : yes
[2016-06-05 06:05:21] ayy_lmao : I get 3 notifications every time I'm notified my sessions is going to expire.
[2016-06-05 06:08:12] huangyong : 管理员，持仓量排行，大概什么时候可以公布，类似okcoin的前10排名
[2016-06-05 06:08:49] huangyong : 类似 okcoin的持仓数排名
[2016-06-05 06:20:38] Spook : yo
[2016-06-05 06:26:59] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: Set up Clef as 2FA and then they won't expire
[2016-06-05 06:27:08] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/account
[2016-06-05 07:17:59] mrp1nk : sup sup
[2016-06-05 07:42:43] madbit : I sent some btc out of my bitmex account but I haven't receive it
[2016-06-05 07:43:01] madbit : admin, can you attend to the problem?
[2016-06-05 07:43:47] ayy_lmao : withdrawals are processed every 24 hours
[2016-06-05 07:44:11] ayy_lmao : 13 utc iirc
[2016-06-05 07:44:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : yes that's correct
[2016-06-05 07:45:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : madbit: you'll need to wait 5 hours, 15 minutes or so for your withdrawal to be processed
[2016-06-05 07:45:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a once per day, multisignature signing process for the best secuirty
[2016-06-05 07:45:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *security
[2016-06-05 07:48:23] madbit : It's more than that.. I am wondering whether the transaction is cancelled
[2016-06-05 07:48:29] madbit : please help me check
[2016-06-05 07:48:30] klee : Is this tracking Bitfinex price?
[2016-06-05 07:48:36] klee : or an index?
[2016-06-05 07:48:40] klee : (XBT)
[2016-06-05 07:50:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : klee: the mark price is calculated from an index and a fair basis. the index source is kaiko
[2016-06-05 07:50:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-06-05 07:50:46] klee : thx!
[2016-06-05 07:51:29] klee : could we have an ETH/LSK pair here?
[2016-06-05 07:51:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-05 07:52:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You'll have to ask one of the admins when they're on
[2016-06-05 07:52:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally?
[2016-06-05 07:52:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : klee: seems like an odd pair though
[2016-06-05 07:53:56] klee : LSK is entangled with BTC
[2016-06-05 07:54:03] klee : ETH is inverse correlated
[2016-06-05 07:54:14] klee : so ETHLSK is BTC printing pair
[2016-06-05 07:54:23] klee : ;)
[2016-06-05 07:54:55] klee : https://www.tradingview.com/x/3B8SelBV/
[2016-06-05 07:58:56] madbit : Thanks for the advice
[2016-06-05 08:09:49] BitMEX_Wally : madbit: Your first withdrawal was automatically cancelled after 30 minutes because it was not confirmed by clicking on the email verification link
[2016-06-05 08:10:10] BitMEX_Wally : madbit: You second withdrawal has been confirmed and will be processed at 13:00 UTC which is in 5 hours' time
[2016-06-05 08:11:43] madbit : Thanks Wally!
[2016-06-05 08:11:56] sam : wallllll eeeeee
[2016-06-05 08:38:11] Mr Blue : Morning traders
[2016-06-05 08:39:01] Mr Blue : Damn only got 6h sleep again last night, but was some good trading action going down
[2016-06-05 08:42:23] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I know at some point I might take a loss, but so far in 5 days I've made $1000 profit on your exchange, this place is pure magic sir, let me know if I can do anything to help, I would of invited people to join by now, but my eyes have been glued to the screen lol
[2016-06-05 08:42:54] BitMEX_Wally : We have an affiliate programme, so please spread the word: https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2016-06-05 08:45:17] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: will do sir, I'm going to get a bath then I'll ask few of my crypto friends on Facebook to join
[2016-06-05 08:47:05] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I know this is a dirty tactic, but have you considered also telling people in other exchange troll boxes about BitMex? I'm sure the x50 leverage would interest many people
[2016-06-05 08:47:30] Mr Blue : Anyways back soon guys
[2016-06-05 08:49:48] messiaen8844 : After XBTM16 expires, will bitmex also offer Dec30 futures?
[2016-06-05 08:50:57] sq : i hope they do
[2016-06-05 09:01:18] sq : i actually think its a product few other exchanes hv
[2016-06-05 09:07:42] messiaen8844 : I think Cryptofacilities has it aswell, but 6x leverage
[2016-06-05 09:07:56] sq : yeh they do,. but low liqudity
[2016-06-05 09:08:29] messiaen8844 : swap has improved liquidity here, and fixed the need for inverse hedging contracts... killer move
[2016-06-05 09:10:07] sq : yeh its true, but growing the forwards market concurrently for the future would be gd too
[2016-06-05 09:20:55] messiaen8844 : yes, XBT multiplier is great
[2016-06-05 09:37:32] Juba : any1 else have problems with charts not showing when you switch to dark theme?
[2016-06-05 09:38:45] asdfman : omg dark theme :D
[2016-06-05 09:38:52] asdfman : I had no idea
[2016-06-05 09:38:53] asdfman : thanks
[2016-06-05 09:38:58] asdfman : chart showing here
[2016-06-05 09:46:01] Juba : ok, damn it. dunno why they arnt showing here
[2016-06-05 10:13:57] Mr Blue : Dark these should be default in my opinion, then again I found it on my second day
[2016-06-05 10:14:09] Mr Blue : Dark theme*
[2016-06-05 11:16:03] Mr Blue : Damn just reading affiliate info, and I should of used one of you guys links for a 10% discount on trading fee's for 6 months
[2016-06-05 11:17:30] Mr Blue : Do we have any banners to use? Or should I make just make one
[2016-06-05 11:18:06] Mr Blue : I just make one**
[2016-06-05 12:37:50] jung1 : lisk to 0.005 in one month
[2016-06-05 12:39:42] Mr Blue : jung1: why you thinking that? What will drive people to need or want it?
[2016-06-05 12:41:06] 1QaZxSw2 : is there really a $7 premium between spot and exchange price
[2016-06-05 12:42:04] Mr Blue : I think before you or somebody said it's based on some code in ETH blockchain, but I've not researched it, so just wondering f it's an important ETH contact or something
[2016-06-05 12:42:19] Blargwaffle : Guess they're concerned about it going up $7. ;)
[2016-06-05 12:42:43] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: crazy I'm waiting on a dip in price before today's buy in
[2016-06-05 12:42:58] jung1 : Mr Blue: well its good project with nice pr and quite big community
[2016-06-05 12:43:14] jung1 : its like easier to code ethereum
[2016-06-05 12:44:00] Mr Blue : jung1: ye pr for pumping g it is good, does it have rich backers?
[2016-06-05 12:45:28] jung1 : I invested a bit in ico
[2016-06-05 12:46:35] Mr Blue : jung1: cool
[2016-06-05 12:47:57] 1QaZxSw2 : its hard to see spot chart and trade futures
[2016-06-05 12:48:01] 1QaZxSw2 : prices are way off
[2016-06-05 12:48:39] 1QaZxSw2 : and bitmex chart is barely useful since liquidiation is off some other price. at least they added the purple line
[2016-06-05 12:49:28] 1QaZxSw2 : so i think the best place to enter is when bid/ask is close to purple line and best time to exit is when its far away
[2016-06-05 12:49:49] 1QaZxSw2 : lot of this movement seems to be emotionally driven
[2016-06-05 12:51:03] ggwp : this is the mini exit ra
[2016-06-05 12:51:06] ggwp : rally
[2016-06-05 12:51:15] ggwp : before we retrace
[2016-06-05 12:51:24] ggwp : to get noobs to buy the top
[2016-06-05 12:51:34] ggwp : finex already on schedule
[2016-06-05 12:52:43] 1QaZxSw2 : anybody trade futures on okcoin?
[2016-06-05 12:52:59] 1QaZxSw2 : also why is it autorenamed to woodchipper
[2016-06-05 12:53:15] ggwp : huobi
[2016-06-05 12:53:22] ggwp : fuck
[2016-06-05 12:53:33] ggwp : bitfine
[2016-06-05 12:53:39] ggwp : bitfinex
[2016-06-05 12:53:44] ggwp : aww dam
[2016-06-05 12:54:29] ggwp : toldya!
[2016-06-05 12:54:37] ggwp : DOO
[2016-06-05 12:54:39] 1QaZxSw2 : damn
[2016-06-05 12:54:40] ggwp : M
[2016-06-05 12:54:58] ggwp : called it boys
[2016-06-05 12:55:14] 1QaZxSw2 : you did ggwp
[2016-06-05 12:55:17] 1QaZxSw2 : hats off
[2016-06-05 12:56:25] Mr Blue : ggwp: ? glad I'm not in for today yet
[2016-06-05 12:56:57] 1QaZxSw2 : well its near the purple line now
[2016-06-05 12:56:59] ggwp : ty
[2016-06-05 12:57:00] 1QaZxSw2 : price is fair
[2016-06-05 12:58:29] Mr Blue : 575 I might jump in
[2016-06-05 12:59:00] wingman : just got rekt uhul
[2016-06-05 13:02:08] 1QaZxSw2 : its rectsburg for the longs
[2016-06-05 13:02:18] ggwp : VERY risky to try to scalp this blue
[2016-06-05 13:02:24] 1QaZxSw2 : rektistan
[2016-06-05 13:02:34] ggwp : China be trollin
[2016-06-05 13:02:52] ggwp : rektville
[2016-06-05 13:13:03] Mr Blue : ggwp: I love to live dangerously ?
[2016-06-05 13:13:12] 1QaZxSw2 : there go the dreams of 600
[2016-06-05 13:13:41] 1QaZxSw2 : why is ok coin called woodchipper
[2016-06-05 13:14:42] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: because they chip wood
[2016-06-05 13:14:57] 1QaZxSw2 : i wish i knew what it meant
[2016-06-05 13:15:05] BitMEX_Wally : 
[2016-06-05 13:15:55] BitMEX_Wally : I think Whalepool started calling it that because the market maker would force the price up and down and liquidate positions
[2016-06-05 13:16:14] 1QaZxSw2 : holy crap, they still do that?
[2016-06-05 13:16:52] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess they somehow profit from liquidations?
[2016-06-05 13:17:30] Mr Blue : I wish they'd chip a little wood now so I can get in cheap lol
[2016-06-05 13:17:34] ayy_lmao : they can close their own orders into liquidations
[2016-06-05 13:17:48] 1QaZxSw2 : ah, i see
[2016-06-05 13:17:53] 1QaZxSw2 : like a stop run
[2016-06-05 13:18:13] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: haha ye don't use them my self, but do watch the charts
[2016-06-05 13:19:59] 1QaZxSw2 : this whipsaw is best for bots
[2016-06-05 13:33:14] 1QaZxSw2 : i bought a bit here, i think the damn thing will whipsaw for a while
[2016-06-05 13:34:08] 1QaZxSw2 : so 578 or so now may go back to 582 or even 588
[2016-06-05 13:34:09] ggwp : big bear div
[2016-06-05 13:34:15] ggwp : 4 hr
[2016-06-05 13:34:19] ggwp : doubt it
[2016-06-05 13:34:35] ggwp : risky imo
[2016-06-05 13:34:48] ggwp : cya l8r guys
[2016-06-05 13:39:37] Mr Blue : ggwp: cya
[2016-06-05 13:41:02] 1QaZxSw2 : comeon 582
[2016-06-05 13:42:05] Mr Blue : Man I'm still hoping on 575 sure some dirty bugger too all at 576
[2016-06-05 13:42:26] Mr Blue : Took all*
[2016-06-05 13:46:09] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, i learnt to avoid round numbers
[2016-06-05 13:46:17] 1QaZxSw2 : 575.08 instead of 575
[2016-06-05 13:46:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess at these prices its 576 instead of 575
[2016-06-05 13:47:48] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: I'd of took at any price in the 575 range 575.90 an below
[2016-06-05 13:48:07] Mr Blue : But ye guess 576 could be nice
[2016-06-05 14:20:12] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas?
[2016-06-05 14:20:36] sq : is it time to shrot?!
[2016-06-05 14:20:51] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: afternoon mate, not bad just looking to buy in my self
[2016-06-05 14:23:33] ggwp : I think your kick in the nuts is en voyage
[2016-06-05 14:23:56] rapidtrades : nah we're cool
[2016-06-05 14:24:07] ggwp : closed/
[2016-06-05 14:24:09] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-05 14:24:10] rapidtrades : rocket is still on the platform, ready for liftoff
[2016-06-05 14:24:18] ggwp : hehehe
[2016-06-05 14:24:35] ggwp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo
[2016-06-05 14:24:52] sq : lol
[2016-06-05 14:25:06] ggwp : [spoiler][/spoiler]
[2016-06-05 14:26:17] ggwp : compulsory CYKA BLYAT
[2016-06-05 14:27:10] rapidtrades : dam no GPS for Russia!
[2016-06-05 14:27:54] ggwp : their glonass program xD
[2016-06-05 14:33:48] rapidtrades : how many hrs will it take me to start coding simple bots in pyhton?
[2016-06-05 14:34:20] rapidtrades : for example a basic straddle, if we go up X, buy, if we go down X sell
[2016-06-05 14:34:52] rapidtrades : simple shit like that
[2016-06-05 14:35:26] sq : BitMEX_Wally: i see bfx usd lending at around 0.07%
[2016-06-05 14:35:29] tscha : rapidtrades: you asked the same question 6 months ago, if you had started back then you would have a full blown market maker now
[2016-06-05 14:35:38] sq : y is yourfunding at 0.0234%?
[2016-06-05 14:35:50] rapidtrades : I KNOW OKAY @tscha
[2016-06-05 14:36:07] ayy_lmao : rapid trades, to learn or to write?
[2016-06-05 14:36:54] BitMEX_Wally : sq: Because we charge 3 times a day
[2016-06-05 14:37:16] BitMEX_Wally : So the amount charged is a third
[2016-06-05 14:37:26] sq : oh okie
[2016-06-05 14:37:35] sq : when did u change?
[2016-06-05 14:37:37] sq : used to be daily right
[2016-06-05 14:37:47] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: to write code yes
[2016-06-05 14:38:11] BitMEX_Wally : sq: Yes used to be daily. We changed it Saturday 12:00 UTC
[2016-06-05 14:38:16] sq : ic tks vm
[2016-06-05 14:38:53] BitMEX_Wally : So XBTUSD has 8 hour funding interval, and daily rebalance.
[2016-06-05 14:38:59] BitMEX_Wally : The rest of the swaps are 24 hour funding interval and weekly rebalance
[2016-06-05 14:39:18] sq : ic, tks
[2016-06-05 14:46:53] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally: are you going to keep the quarterly BTC contracts
[2016-06-05 14:47:00] rentchev : they are very good for longer term trades
[2016-06-05 14:49:19] sq : yes, pls keep 2 tenors out
[2016-06-05 14:49:33] sq : the volume might develop over time