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[2016-06-04 22:52:55] Mr Blue : Your not going to wait 10 mins to buy some items in a store, that's why bitpay and coinbase have merchant solutions, they can trust that you can't get the hashing power or add higher fee to get another transaction to confirm faster to an extent, do we need blocks no be mined faster? No I'd rather 3rd party solutions to bring over players to the game, or use alts to buy items doesn't matter to Bitcoin, it will still be the gold standard of all other cryptocurrency we
[2016-06-04 22:53:34] Mr Blue : Other* sorry I'm ranting now lol
[2016-06-04 22:54:22] Mr Blue : Bitcoin will evolve, when it needs to, and when / if it needs to, will be a good time to buy lol
[2016-06-04 23:39:46] Mr Blue : LMAO just noticed Coin Desk has added Bitstamp to its charts, maybe I should go x35 lol
[2016-06-04 23:40:35] Mr Blue : Was also a news post few hours ago saying how it would be easy for Bitstamp to reach $600 lol
[2016-06-04 23:42:41] rapidtrades : so noone wants to buy above 575
[2016-06-04 23:43:38] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I might if I see it going 600 lol
[2016-06-04 23:44:48] ggwp : more like 500
[2016-06-04 23:44:52] ggwp : or 400
[2016-06-04 23:44:58] ggwp : or 99
[2016-06-04 23:45:03] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-04 23:45:11] rapidtrades : or 1.99
[2016-06-04 23:45:25] ggwp : works for me
[2016-06-04 23:46:00] rapidtrades : cmon bitcoin do ur thing
[2016-06-04 23:46:09] ggwp : it's limbo atm
[2016-06-04 23:46:27] rapidtrades : this will be over by the end of june
[2016-06-04 23:46:42] ggwp : but it's looking weak af
[2016-06-04 23:46:59] rapidtrades : we're $15 below highs...
[2016-06-04 23:47:21] ggwp : this halving might kill btc
[2016-06-04 23:47:55] ggwp : unless someone out there is willing to mine at a loss
[2016-06-04 23:48:07] rapidtrades : cry me a river
[2016-06-04 23:48:24] Mr Blue : Your very ? today @ggwp
[2016-06-04 23:49:23] rapidtrades : we're now more then double from october...if any miners are knocked out, they were close to being out back then too
[2016-06-04 23:49:26] rapidtrades : also f em
[2016-06-04 23:49:42] Mr Blue : Lol
[2016-06-04 23:51:27] ggwp : "f the miners"
[2016-06-04 23:51:28] ggwp : yes
[2016-06-04 23:51:47] ggwp : we dont need them anyway
[2016-06-04 23:53:09] ggwp : china wants down
[2016-06-04 23:53:23] rapidtrades : stop lying snake
[2016-06-04 23:53:25] ggwp : grumpy in the morning
[2016-06-04 23:56:17] ggwp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Cau8U2ho
[2016-06-04 23:57:40] ggwp : that's where we're headed cap'n
[2016-06-05 00:00:06] Mr Blue : If I see Bitstamp go 580 before spot increases here, I'll go x35 and eat the lot lol
[2016-06-05 00:01:55] 1QaZxSw2 : 35x is for pansies. Real men only do 50x
[2016-06-05 00:02:28] ggwp : 100x is the
[2016-06-05 00:02:34] ggwp : REAL DEAL
[2016-06-05 00:02:58] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: lmao, I don't have the balls for that just yet mate
[2016-06-05 00:03:37] 1QaZxSw2 : time was, when you did a 100 trades at 100x, you got a special award
[2016-06-05 00:03:52] ggwp : what was it?
[2016-06-05 00:03:56] 1QaZxSw2 : it was called REKT
[2016-06-05 00:03:58] Mr Blue : ggwp: haha I bet they where the days, but I'm too scared to try x50 never mind x100
[2016-06-05 00:04:12] ggwp : behehe
[2016-06-05 00:06:03] 1QaZxSw2 : real balls, tho is trading at 500x
[2016-06-05 00:06:42] ggwp : no 500x for btc
[2016-06-05 00:06:54] 1QaZxSw2 : There is: http://imgur.com/BbSuZYH
[2016-06-05 00:06:57] ggwp : find me one and I'll send you a tip
[2016-06-05 00:07:16] messiaen8844 : 400x at coinpit
[2016-06-05 00:07:37] 1QaZxSw2 : due to increase in btc price, its 500x now
[2016-06-05 00:07:52] ggwp : have you traded there?
[2016-06-05 00:08:18] 1QaZxSw2 : i should
[2016-06-05 00:10:00] ggwp : spreads?
[2016-06-05 00:10:38] 1QaZxSw2 : they mentioned they are working on brining the spread down to 1 or 2t
[2016-06-05 00:11:11] ggwp : huh
[2016-06-05 00:11:24] ggwp : doesn't sound bad
[2016-06-05 00:11:53] ggwp : little sketchy tbh though
[2016-06-05 00:12:56] 1QaZxSw2 : as far as new exchanges are concerned, they are trying to be trustless
[2016-06-05 00:13:16] ggwp : yeah, looks like it
[2016-06-05 00:13:28] ggwp : alright. Imma hit the hay
[2016-06-05 00:13:37] ggwp : g
[2016-06-05 00:13:40] ggwp : *gn
[2016-06-05 00:13:40] Mr Blue : ggwp: night mate
[2016-06-05 00:13:53] ggwp : gn to u too Blue
[2016-06-05 00:14:07] 1QaZxSw2 : gn
[2016-06-05 00:14:14] 1QaZxSw2 : looks like mkt is trying to go for 580
[2016-06-05 00:14:29] 1QaZxSw2 : or maybe im just optimistic
[2016-06-05 00:18:50] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: 580 is a good guess mate
[2016-06-05 00:19:08] 1QaZxSw2 : i know, everyone is thinking 600 coz round number
[2016-06-05 00:19:20] 1QaZxSw2 : but its best to be modest when taking profits
[2016-06-05 00:20:17] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: I look to £400, but ye 600 was breached by ok coin and people think today it's Bitstamp turn to shine
[2016-06-05 00:20:18] 1QaZxSw2 : and the way it will look is that it will struggle here for what seems like a long time and then -- pop -- its at 580
[2016-06-05 00:21:12] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: or hopefully 590 ? but I'm greedy
[2016-06-05 00:22:52] 1QaZxSw2 : after a certain point, sellers will simply wait for 600, so i think if we break up here, its 580, then 600
[2016-06-05 00:23:29] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: some good swings ahead, that much we know for sure
[2016-06-05 00:23:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: That's what I was going to say. I think if we go above 580 again the top is almost certainly retested
[2016-06-05 00:23:46] 1QaZxSw2 : anything is better than chop mr. blue
[2016-06-05 00:23:52] Mr Blue : Only problem if the fact I must sleep at some point lol
[2016-06-05 00:24:13] 1QaZxSw2 : stop orders and limit orders bro, sleep tight
[2016-06-05 00:25:16] 1QaZxSw2 : jesus, i should just you know do a DAO type project to get $140 million
[2016-06-05 00:25:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i would use it for good projects, only i promise
[2016-06-05 00:25:47] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: lol
[2016-06-05 00:26:56] Mr Blue : Nice ?
[2016-06-05 00:27:16] 1QaZxSw2 : i have a project code named "Hookers and Booze"
[2016-06-05 00:27:26] Mr Blue : Entry price is 574.77
[2016-06-05 00:27:46] Mr Blue : What you guys jump in at?
[2016-06-05 00:27:55] 1QaZxSw2 : 574.5
[2016-06-05 00:28:00] 1QaZxSw2 : big position
[2016-06-05 00:28:21] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: nice, any clue how much?
[2016-06-05 00:28:45] 1QaZxSw2 : 10K+
[2016-06-05 00:28:50] Mr Blue : Nice
[2016-06-05 00:28:56] Mr Blue : Same here
[2016-06-05 00:29:22] 1QaZxSw2 : oh after the doldrums of the last year, finally we can trade for real
[2016-06-05 00:29:44] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: +1
[2016-06-05 00:35:15] 1QaZxSw2 : i need to sleep too. at least for a bit but its hard with a position open
[2016-06-05 00:36:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: I'll buy it from you for 575 ;)
[2016-06-05 00:36:32] 1QaZxSw2 : oh you smart dog, you!
[2016-06-05 00:37:20] Mr Blue : I just sold 10000 no idea why lol 13,000 left
[2016-06-05 00:38:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: Probably a reasonable call. We're getting close to previous resistance from this morning and the past few days
[2016-06-05 00:39:23] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: also a reason called profit, but I'm not fully out of my position yet, still hoping for some 585+ magic
[2016-06-05 00:39:31] 1QaZxSw2 : even if it wants to turn down, it should pop first
[2016-06-05 00:39:37] 1QaZxSw2 : its chop till pop
[2016-06-05 00:39:54] trimethylcyclohexen : Hello all.
[2016-06-05 00:39:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: That would be very nice
[2016-06-05 00:40:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: hello
[2016-06-05 00:40:24] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: morning
[2016-06-05 00:41:08] 1QaZxSw2 : 578 already 2 more pts to 1st target
[2016-06-05 00:43:20] trimethylcyclohexen : @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb @Mr Blue Thanks to all samewise
[2016-06-05 00:43:46] Mr Blue : ?
[2016-06-05 00:45:24] trimethylcyclohexen : Any enlightenment or references on how to better understand the structure of the _perpetual swaps_ .. ?
[2016-06-05 00:46:03] trimethylcyclohexen : (in addition to it's official documentation ... :)
[2016-06-05 00:46:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: There's a blog post on it
[2016-06-05 00:46:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Multiple posts actually, I'll find links
[2016-06-05 00:46:19] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: buy low sell high lol o.j
[2016-06-05 00:46:38] trimethylcyclohexen : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: on the bitmex blog ?
[2016-06-05 00:46:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : yes
[2016-06-05 00:47:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: https://blog.bitmex.com/why-xbtusd-is-a-superior-trading-product/
[2016-06-05 00:47:25] 1QaZxSw2 : basically, most folks here treat it like a futures that does not expire, but with various fees that we dont fully understand, like financing, settlement, etc
[2016-06-05 00:47:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://blog.bitmex.com/announcing-the-launch-of-the-perpetual-xbtusd-leveraged-swap/
[2016-06-05 00:47:50] 1QaZxSw2 : so depending on how long you hold it, just treat it like a futures
[2016-06-05 00:47:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-06-05 00:48:07] trimethylcyclohexen : Mr Blue: lol !! Satoshi engulfed a Revolution !
[2016-06-05 00:48:32] 1QaZxSw2 : there are fees every 8 hrs
[2016-06-05 00:48:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://blog.bitmex.com/swaps-101/
[2016-06-05 00:48:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : trimethylcyclohexen: There are all your links. 4 I think
[2016-06-05 00:48:51] trimethylcyclohexen : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thank you genuinely indeed. Honorably kind : )
[2016-06-05 00:49:08] 1QaZxSw2 : yea, but i gave you the TLDR
[2016-06-05 00:49:19] 1QaZxSw2 : awesome fist target filled
[2016-06-05 00:49:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: good call
[2016-06-05 00:49:53] Mr Blue : trimethylcyclohexen: here I have my own theories about who created Bitcoin, but I won't get in to that well hot trading action is on, talk soon guys
[2016-06-05 00:50:05] 1QaZxSw2 : thx, i think 590 is actually closer now because once it pops it pops good
[2016-06-05 00:50:16] 1QaZxSw2 : if its gonna fakeout, it will fake out in the next hour or so
[2016-06-05 00:50:31] 1QaZxSw2 : next target is 585
[2016-06-05 00:50:46] 1QaZxSw2 : then small amounts for 590 and 600
[2016-06-05 00:50:48] trimethylcyclohexen : Mr Blue: Sounds interesting be well
[2016-06-05 00:50:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1QaZxSw2: Let me guess, then 590, 595, 600, 605, 610, etc? ;)
[2016-06-05 00:51:27] 1QaZxSw2 : actually, after 590, its a big unknown
[2016-06-05 00:51:33] 1QaZxSw2 : good chance it will sell off
[2016-06-05 00:51:45] 1QaZxSw2 : may even fall short just a bit
[2016-06-05 00:52:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 578.31
[2016-06-05 00:52:50] 1QaZxSw2 : check the prior swing point https://cryptowat.ch/bitstamp/btcusd/1h
[2016-06-05 00:53:32] 1QaZxSw2 : all the geniuses who bought at the peak will unload at 590. unless buying interest breaks much higher, we may turn down
[2016-06-05 00:58:28] 1QaZxSw2 : 585 filled. i remember people would get disappointed if bitcoin only doubled in one day
[2016-06-05 00:59:12] 1QaZxSw2 : actually im out of most of my position
[2016-06-05 00:59:17] 1QaZxSw2 : only 2000c left
[2016-06-05 00:59:55] Mr Blue : I have 10,000 left to sell got at 574.77
[2016-06-05 01:00:23] 1QaZxSw2 : damn, you da real baller, mr. blue
[2016-06-05 01:00:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i gotta call you blue baller
[2016-06-05 01:01:03] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: haha thanks but I just sold like 15,000 at 577
[2016-06-05 01:01:22] 1QaZxSw2 : well as long as you made bank
[2016-06-05 01:01:31] 1QaZxSw2 : you can go home and spank ;)
[2016-06-05 01:01:39] Mr Blue : True profit is profit
[2016-06-05 01:02:52] Mr Blue : I'm actually quite proud of my self, if of normally sold the lot by now, but holding for 590 or till I see red candals
[2016-06-05 01:03:34] Mr Blue : 20% ROE
[2016-06-05 01:03:41] 1QaZxSw2 : trading is mostly about not being shaken out
[2016-06-05 01:03:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 583.06
[2016-06-05 01:03:48] Mr Blue : 22% ?
[2016-06-05 01:04:23] ggwp : down from here
[2016-06-05 01:04:24] 1QaZxSw2 : http://imgur.com/1R159lB
[2016-06-05 01:04:34] 1QaZxSw2 : i dont know if this incluses the stuff i already sold
[2016-06-05 01:05:08] 1QaZxSw2 : i could get used to 50%+
[2016-06-05 01:05:23] ggwp : alar
[2016-06-05 01:05:25] ggwp : m
[2016-06-05 01:05:28] ggwp : woke me :/
[2016-06-05 01:06:01] ggwp : sending more funds to short :D
[2016-06-05 01:08:08] 1QaZxSw2 : does anyone know if the swaps work like quantos
[2016-06-05 01:08:40] 1QaZxSw2 : like better for longs and a bad deal for shorts
[2016-06-05 01:10:13] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: it's inverse, so it's better for shorts than longs in BTC terms
[2016-06-05 01:10:40] 1QaZxSw2 : ah ok. so this is a different curve from their 100x futures
[2016-06-05 01:12:11] zanza : inverse is like okc rifht
[2016-06-05 01:13:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: yes that's correct
[2016-06-05 01:15:39] 1QaZxSw2 : should i keep the last few contracts till 590 or take what i can get here?
[2016-06-05 01:16:09] 1QaZxSw2 : zanza stark?
[2016-06-05 01:17:06] ggwp : you going short
[2016-06-05 01:17:16] ggwp : or taking profits
[2016-06-05 01:17:26] 1QaZxSw2 : taking profit
[2016-06-05 01:17:34] 1QaZxSw2 : not sure i want to short till i see 590
[2016-06-05 01:18:05] Mr Blue : I only have 5200 left, sold 5000 at 587 just in case lol
[2016-06-05 01:18:19] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 01:18:25] ggwp : congrats to both
[2016-06-05 01:18:38] ggwp : I'm shorting this range hard
[2016-06-05 01:19:15] Mr Blue : But ye I'd hold still green candals on all exchanges, I'll sell at 585+ just because I need some sleep though
[2016-06-05 01:19:54] ggwp : sleep is good for trading
[2016-06-05 01:20:19] 1QaZxSw2 : i hate being stampeded by bulls
[2016-06-05 01:20:24] 1QaZxSw2 : they are herd creatures
[2016-06-05 01:20:33] Mr Blue : ggwp: I only got 6 hours yesterday, so need to catch up
[2016-06-05 01:20:50] 1QaZxSw2 : i prefer to have them run till they are tired and then i can turn bear and feast on them
[2016-06-05 01:20:56] ggwp : ye
[2016-06-05 01:21:50] Mr Blue : A whale doesn't care, eats at all levels then takes a dump when it wants lol
[2016-06-05 01:22:15] 1QaZxSw2 : ya if you got loads of coins, you have a vareity of plays
[2016-06-05 01:24:08] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: would be nice
[2016-06-05 01:24:58] 1QaZxSw2 : the point is, how many of us dare to put $20K on a trade?
[2016-06-05 01:25:11] 1QaZxSw2 : heck how many would put $20 in a crypto exchange
[2016-06-05 01:25:23] 1QaZxSw2 : too dangerous bro
[2016-06-05 01:26:03] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: ye but not so bad with this leverage
[2016-06-05 01:26:42] Mr Blue : Here we go again p
[2016-06-05 01:27:44] Mr Blue : Only ItBit letting the side down or spot would be higher I guess
[2016-06-05 01:29:17] 1QaZxSw2 : 590 doesnt look too far
[2016-06-05 01:30:05] Mr Blue : Ye but I'm already in bed lol 585 will do me
[2016-06-05 01:30:36] 24hourz : Let the man sleep hahhaha
[2016-06-05 01:30:49] 1QaZxSw2 : so shorts get paid financing charges?
[2016-06-05 01:30:58] Mr Blue : That 3000 buy is tempting me tho lol
[2016-06-05 01:31:01] 1QaZxSw2 : could basically lend your btc
[2016-06-05 01:32:04] 24hourz : on the last ltc halving very little sleep hahah
[2016-06-05 01:32:13] Mr Blue : ItBit just increased, frig it I wait for 590
[2016-06-05 01:36:23] ggwp : no 590 imo
[2016-06-05 01:45:58] stf28 : directly to 600
[2016-06-05 01:47:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3299 @ 583.71
[2016-06-05 01:47:45] Mr Blue : Sold ? prob a little early but I need sleep, night guys happy trading
[2016-06-05 01:48:14] ggwp : g
[2016-06-05 01:48:16] ggwp : n
[2016-06-05 01:51:30] 24hourz : get some rest man
[2016-06-05 01:51:39] 24hourz : hahaha
[2016-06-05 02:03:55] micmix : don't sleep kids, trade some more, daddy needs more coins :smile:
[2016-06-05 02:09:22] 1QaZxSw2 : sweet jesus, its going to 590
[2016-06-05 02:11:04] ggwp : good short entry
[2016-06-05 02:11:16] ggwp : but inverse h&s just played out
[2016-06-05 02:11:18] micmix : it's a good old weekend pump, can go $600+
[2016-06-05 02:11:28] 24hourz : break 600 this weekend ?
[2016-06-05 02:12:08] ggwp : also bear div
[2016-06-05 02:12:29] 24hourz : The bulls want to run though
[2016-06-05 02:13:15] micmix : don't know about this weekend but China is going to try another run @ 4000 before halvening
[2016-06-05 02:13:51] ggwp : we need a healthy retrace before that
[2016-06-05 02:14:04] ggwp : running low on fuel up here
[2016-06-05 02:14:06] ggwp : also air is thinning
[2016-06-05 02:17:31] micmix : it's hard to say anything on shorter timeframes but I've built another long on XBTM16 when they were cheap
[2016-06-05 02:18:34] 1QaZxSw2 : cmon baby bid it up
[2016-06-05 02:19:24] micmix : XBTUSD will be much more expensive to long when finex bids up the USD lending rate again
[2016-06-05 02:19:44] 1QaZxSw2 : how is finex connected to bitmex
[2016-06-05 02:19:55] 1QaZxSw2 : i mean, dont sellers here finance the buyers?
[2016-06-05 02:21:38] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: https://blog.bitmex.com/announcing-the-launch-of-the-perpetual-xbtusd-leveraged-swap/
[2016-06-05 02:22:11] micmix : "Longs and shorts receive or pay interest each day based on the Bitfinex USD and Bitcoin lending market"
[2016-06-05 02:22:34] 1QaZxSw2 : ah
[2016-06-05 02:22:52] 1QaZxSw2 : so you receive interest and on top of that you get pnl
[2016-06-05 02:23:08] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/earning-interest-income-on-xbtusd-with-minimised-risk/
[2016-06-05 02:23:21] micmix : usually you receive interest when short and pay when long
[2016-06-05 02:24:06] 1QaZxSw2 : is that only when btc is bullish? what happens when btc is bearish? shorts pay and longs earn?
[2016-06-05 02:24:38] 1QaZxSw2 : check out the tight spread
[2016-06-05 02:25:23] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: if it get so bearish that BTC lending rate on finex becomes higher that USD rate then shorts will pay
[2016-06-05 02:25:47] micmix : as far as I remember it happens but it's very rare
[2016-06-05 02:28:18] 1QaZxSw2 : so basically, i should just short here when the market stalls, which could be today or never
[2016-06-05 02:29:31] ggwp : what do you guys think of the volume on this rally?
[2016-06-05 02:29:35] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: read the blog post that Wally linked, you shouldn't just short bc the price could pop at any time
[2016-06-05 02:29:37] ggwp : seems fairly low
[2016-06-05 02:29:53] ggwp : in general
[2016-06-05 02:29:55] 1QaZxSw2 : right, thanks
[2016-06-05 02:30:00] ggwp : compared to the previous one
[2016-06-05 02:32:49] BitMEX_Wally : If you have dollars you can go long Bitcoin on a spot exchange and then short XBTUSD here. No risk
[2016-06-05 02:32:59] BitMEX_Wally : (no price risk that is)
[2016-06-05 02:33:31] 1QaZxSw2 : ah yes, makes sense wally
[2016-06-05 02:33:52] micmix : assuming you have bitcoin already you can just short here but not more than USD value of your coins
[2016-06-05 02:34:08] 1QaZxSw2 : so if i have 100 coins, how many contracts can i short
[2016-06-05 02:34:26] ggwp : whatever 100 coins is worth in usd now?
[2016-06-05 02:34:33] ggwp : 1 contract = 1 usd
[2016-06-05 02:34:44] 1QaZxSw2 : 580000?
[2016-06-05 02:34:44] BitMEX_Wally : Each contract is worth 1 USD, so if the price is 585 you can short 58500 contracts at 1x leverage
[2016-06-05 02:35:20] 1QaZxSw2 : thats sweet. and i would get whatever bitfinex interest rate is
[2016-06-05 02:35:38] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and you don't need to keep all 100 coins on BitMEX. Keep them safe in cold storage and just put 5% or so on here
[2016-06-05 02:36:24] micmix : but you have to understand that you will not gain anything when bitcoin goes up
[2016-06-05 02:37:22] micmix : basically you will lock the current USD value of your coins plus earn interest
[2016-06-05 02:37:26] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: do you see my deposit yet?
[2016-06-05 02:37:46] BitMEX_Wally : A pending deposit will appear in your wallet: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-06-05 02:38:22] ggwp : mhm
[2016-06-05 02:38:26] ggwp : ty
[2016-06-05 02:39:55] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, so thats why order value decreases when price moves up
[2016-06-05 02:40:28] 1QaZxSw2 : given most bitcoiners are permabulls, shorting is probably the contrarian move
[2016-06-05 02:41:24] 1QaZxSw2 : i have a stop order, so i can go to sleep. can bitmex confirm that stop order is on last price and not mark price?
[2016-06-05 02:41:43] micmix : 1QaZxSw2: stop orders are on mark price
[2016-06-05 02:42:03] 1QaZxSw2 : what? so i could be stopped out and i wont even know why
[2016-06-05 02:42:32] 24hourz : yeah
[2016-06-05 02:42:44] 1QaZxSw2 : im guessing they have something to smooth out blips in the mark price
[2016-06-05 02:42:54] 24hourz : Could we have the option to go off the last price ?
[2016-06-05 02:43:12] 1QaZxSw2 : i think it would screw up their risk management if they did
[2016-06-05 02:43:54] 24hourz : it could be done with bots ? It shouldn't mess it up if it is just a stop loss right ?
[2016-06-05 02:45:16] 1QaZxSw2 : so many prices: last price, fair price, mark price.
[2016-06-05 02:46:02] ggwp : here we go, drop the bass
[2016-06-05 02:46:22] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, so thats why if i buy at 574 and the price moves to 575, it still shows -ve ROE
[2016-06-05 02:46:48] 1QaZxSw2 : however, if you sell at 575, you get a profit?
[2016-06-05 02:47:07] 1QaZxSw2 : or should exit price go above mark price
[2016-06-05 02:47:44] ggwp : major selloff on the way :D
[2016-06-05 02:47:53] 1QaZxSw2 : good call there ggwp
[2016-06-05 02:48:01] 1QaZxSw2 : im out of all but 1000 contracts
[2016-06-05 02:48:48] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 02:48:55] ggwp : you won't regret
[2016-06-05 02:49:05] BitMEX_Wally : 24hourz: You can set a stop order that is triggered by last price using the API
[2016-06-05 02:49:34] BitMEX_Wally : send `execInst=LastPrice`
[2016-06-05 02:50:35] 1QaZxSw2 : great, will the lastprice stop be available on UI?
[2016-06-05 02:50:54] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we might make it the default too
[2016-06-05 02:51:02] rentchev : @ggwp why do you think major sell off is coming?
[2016-06-05 02:51:03] 1QaZxSw2 : fantastic.
[2016-06-05 02:51:14] ggwp : rentchev: correction
[2016-06-05 02:51:20] ggwp : we need one badly
[2016-06-05 02:51:25] rentchev : it's due for correction I guess
[2016-06-05 02:51:31] ggwp : but don't trade on my advice
[2016-06-05 02:51:38] ggwp : I'm no pro
[2016-06-05 02:51:40] rentchev : I want to see a healthy correction as well before the next move
[2016-06-05 02:51:55] rentchev : :-)
[2016-06-05 02:52:03] rentchev : I had a short before you mention it
[2016-06-05 02:52:09] rentchev : have a stop as well
[2016-06-05 02:52:12] ggwp : nice
[2016-06-05 02:52:19] ggwp : entry?
[2016-06-05 02:52:27] rentchev : 584.5
[2016-06-05 02:52:34] ggwp : very nice :)
[2016-06-05 02:53:21] rentchev : well not much yet
[2016-06-05 02:53:23] rentchev : lets see
[2016-06-05 02:53:40] rentchev : it moves easy on the upside
[2016-06-05 02:55:10] ggwp : we shall see
[2016-06-05 02:55:23] ggwp : 577 breaks and down we go imo
[2016-06-05 02:55:34] rentchev : do you have a chart?
[2016-06-05 02:55:40] rentchev : is 577 support?
[2016-06-05 02:55:52] ggwp : only on cryptowatch
[2016-06-05 02:56:53] 24hourz : looks like btfx was a single order lasrge dump or maybe liquidation
[2016-06-05 02:57:31] rentchev : yeah
[2016-06-05 02:57:37] rentchev : bitfinex is leading the downside
[2016-06-05 02:57:45] rentchev : China still not moving much
[2016-06-05 02:58:38] 24hourz : plus once a coin gets some steam it will go up without much correction until a huge dump when it burts. Happened with ltc during halving
[2016-06-05 02:59:41] rentchev : XBTUSD has a $5 premium
[2016-06-05 02:59:50] rentchev : that's a lot for the current conditions
[2016-06-05 03:02:12] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally: are you going to keep the quarterly contracts?
[2016-06-05 03:02:23] rentchev : I love trading them together with the Swap
[2016-06-05 03:03:04] rentchev : they are good for long term trades
[2016-06-05 03:34:23] rentchev : @ggwp https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/nCdJPXn5-BTC-correction-coming-soon/
[2016-06-05 03:34:39] rentchev : Here is a 4 hr chart I created
[2016-06-05 03:39:44] 24hourz : unless it breaks out of the channel
[2016-06-05 03:49:00] rentchev : yes
[2016-06-05 06:05:21] ayy_lmao : I get 3 notifications every time I'm notified my sessions is going to expire.
[2016-06-05 06:08:12] huangyong : 管理员，持仓量排行，大概什么时候可以公布，类似okcoin的前10排名
[2016-06-05 06:08:49] huangyong : 类似 okcoin的持仓数排名
[2016-06-05 06:20:38] Spook : yo
[2016-06-05 06:26:59] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: Set up Clef as 2FA and then they won't expire
[2016-06-05 06:27:08] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/account
[2016-06-05 07:17:59] mrp1nk : sup sup
[2016-06-05 07:42:43] madbit : I sent some btc out of my bitmex account but I haven't receive it
[2016-06-05 07:43:01] madbit : admin, can you attend to the problem?
[2016-06-05 07:43:47] ayy_lmao : withdrawals are processed every 24 hours
[2016-06-05 07:44:11] ayy_lmao : 13 utc iirc
[2016-06-05 07:44:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : yes that's correct
[2016-06-05 07:45:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : madbit: you'll need to wait 5 hours, 15 minutes or so for your withdrawal to be processed
[2016-06-05 07:45:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a once per day, multisignature signing process for the best secuirty
[2016-06-05 07:45:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *security
[2016-06-05 07:48:23] madbit : It's more than that.. I am wondering whether the transaction is cancelled
[2016-06-05 07:48:29] madbit : please help me check
[2016-06-05 07:48:30] klee : Is this tracking Bitfinex price?
[2016-06-05 07:48:36] klee : or an index?
[2016-06-05 07:48:40] klee : (XBT)
[2016-06-05 07:50:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : klee: the mark price is calculated from an index and a fair basis. the index source is kaiko
[2016-06-05 07:50:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-06-05 07:50:46] klee : thx!
[2016-06-05 07:51:29] klee : could we have an ETH/LSK pair here?
[2016-06-05 07:51:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-05 07:52:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You'll have to ask one of the admins when they're on
[2016-06-05 07:52:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally?
[2016-06-05 07:52:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : klee: seems like an odd pair though
[2016-06-05 07:53:56] klee : LSK is entangled with BTC
[2016-06-05 07:54:03] klee : ETH is inverse correlated
[2016-06-05 07:54:14] klee : so ETHLSK is BTC printing pair
[2016-06-05 07:54:23] klee : ;)
[2016-06-05 07:54:55] klee : https://www.tradingview.com/x/3B8SelBV/
[2016-06-05 07:58:56] madbit : Thanks for the advice
[2016-06-05 08:09:49] BitMEX_Wally : madbit: Your first withdrawal was automatically cancelled after 30 minutes because it was not confirmed by clicking on the email verification link
[2016-06-05 08:10:10] BitMEX_Wally : madbit: You second withdrawal has been confirmed and will be processed at 13:00 UTC which is in 5 hours' time
[2016-06-05 08:11:43] madbit : Thanks Wally!
[2016-06-05 08:11:56] sam : wallllll eeeeee
[2016-06-05 08:38:11] Mr Blue : Morning traders
[2016-06-05 08:39:01] Mr Blue : Damn only got 6h sleep again last night, but was some good trading action going down
[2016-06-05 08:42:23] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I know at some point I might take a loss, but so far in 5 days I've made $1000 profit on your exchange, this place is pure magic sir, let me know if I can do anything to help, I would of invited people to join by now, but my eyes have been glued to the screen lol
[2016-06-05 08:42:54] BitMEX_Wally : We have an affiliate programme, so please spread the word: https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2016-06-05 08:45:17] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: will do sir, I'm going to get a bath then I'll ask few of my crypto friends on Facebook to join
[2016-06-05 08:47:05] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I know this is a dirty tactic, but have you considered also telling people in other exchange troll boxes about BitMex? I'm sure the x50 leverage would interest many people
[2016-06-05 08:47:30] Mr Blue : Anyways back soon guys
[2016-06-05 08:49:48] messiaen8844 : After XBTM16 expires, will bitmex also offer Dec30 futures?
[2016-06-05 08:50:57] sq : i hope they do
[2016-06-05 09:01:18] sq : i actually think its a product few other exchanes hv
[2016-06-05 09:07:42] messiaen8844 : I think Cryptofacilities has it aswell, but 6x leverage
[2016-06-05 09:07:56] sq : yeh they do,. but low liqudity
[2016-06-05 09:08:29] messiaen8844 : swap has improved liquidity here, and fixed the need for inverse hedging contracts... killer move
[2016-06-05 09:10:07] sq : yeh its true, but growing the forwards market concurrently for the future would be gd too
[2016-06-05 09:20:55] messiaen8844 : yes, XBT multiplier is great
[2016-06-05 09:37:32] Juba : any1 else have problems with charts not showing when you switch to dark theme?
[2016-06-05 09:38:45] asdfman : omg dark theme :D
[2016-06-05 09:38:52] asdfman : I had no idea
[2016-06-05 09:38:53] asdfman : thanks
[2016-06-05 09:38:58] asdfman : chart showing here
[2016-06-05 09:46:01] Juba : ok, damn it. dunno why they arnt showing here
[2016-06-05 10:13:57] Mr Blue : Dark these should be default in my opinion, then again I found it on my second day
[2016-06-05 10:14:09] Mr Blue : Dark theme*
[2016-06-05 11:16:03] Mr Blue : Damn just reading affiliate info, and I should of used one of you guys links for a 10% discount on trading fee's for 6 months
[2016-06-05 11:17:30] Mr Blue : Do we have any banners to use? Or should I make just make one
[2016-06-05 11:18:06] Mr Blue : I just make one**
[2016-06-05 12:37:50] jung1 : lisk to 0.005 in one month
[2016-06-05 12:39:42] Mr Blue : jung1: why you thinking that? What will drive people to need or want it?
[2016-06-05 12:41:06] 1QaZxSw2 : is there really a $7 premium between spot and exchange price
[2016-06-05 12:42:04] Mr Blue : I think before you or somebody said it's based on some code in ETH blockchain, but I've not researched it, so just wondering f it's an important ETH contact or something
[2016-06-05 12:42:19] Blargwaffle : Guess they're concerned about it going up $7. ;)
[2016-06-05 12:42:43] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: crazy I'm waiting on a dip in price before today's buy in
[2016-06-05 12:42:58] jung1 : Mr Blue: well its good project with nice pr and quite big community
[2016-06-05 12:43:14] jung1 : its like easier to code ethereum
[2016-06-05 12:44:00] Mr Blue : jung1: ye pr for pumping g it is good, does it have rich backers?
[2016-06-05 12:45:28] jung1 : I invested a bit in ico
[2016-06-05 12:46:35] Mr Blue : jung1: cool
[2016-06-05 12:47:57] 1QaZxSw2 : its hard to see spot chart and trade futures
[2016-06-05 12:48:01] 1QaZxSw2 : prices are way off
[2016-06-05 12:48:39] 1QaZxSw2 : and bitmex chart is barely useful since liquidiation is off some other price. at least they added the purple line
[2016-06-05 12:49:28] 1QaZxSw2 : so i think the best place to enter is when bid/ask is close to purple line and best time to exit is when its far away
[2016-06-05 12:49:49] 1QaZxSw2 : lot of this movement seems to be emotionally driven
[2016-06-05 12:51:03] ggwp : this is the mini exit ra
[2016-06-05 12:51:06] ggwp : rally
[2016-06-05 12:51:15] ggwp : before we retrace
[2016-06-05 12:51:24] ggwp : to get noobs to buy the top
[2016-06-05 12:51:34] ggwp : finex already on schedule
[2016-06-05 12:52:43] 1QaZxSw2 : anybody trade futures on okcoin?
[2016-06-05 12:52:59] 1QaZxSw2 : also why is it autorenamed to woodchipper
[2016-06-05 12:53:15] ggwp : huobi
[2016-06-05 12:53:22] ggwp : fuck
[2016-06-05 12:53:33] ggwp : bitfine
[2016-06-05 12:53:39] ggwp : bitfinex
[2016-06-05 12:53:44] ggwp : aww dam
[2016-06-05 12:54:29] ggwp : toldya!
[2016-06-05 12:54:37] ggwp : DOO
[2016-06-05 12:54:39] 1QaZxSw2 : damn
[2016-06-05 12:54:40] ggwp : M
[2016-06-05 12:54:58] ggwp : called it boys
[2016-06-05 12:55:14] 1QaZxSw2 : you did ggwp
[2016-06-05 12:55:17] 1QaZxSw2 : hats off
[2016-06-05 12:56:25] Mr Blue : ggwp: ? glad I'm not in for today yet
[2016-06-05 12:56:57] 1QaZxSw2 : well its near the purple line now
[2016-06-05 12:56:59] ggwp : ty
[2016-06-05 12:57:00] 1QaZxSw2 : price is fair
[2016-06-05 12:58:29] Mr Blue : 575 I might jump in
[2016-06-05 12:59:00] wingman : just got rekt uhul
[2016-06-05 13:02:08] 1QaZxSw2 : its rectsburg for the longs
[2016-06-05 13:02:18] ggwp : VERY risky to try to scalp this blue
[2016-06-05 13:02:24] 1QaZxSw2 : rektistan
[2016-06-05 13:02:34] ggwp : China be trollin
[2016-06-05 13:02:52] ggwp : rektville
[2016-06-05 13:13:03] Mr Blue : ggwp: I love to live dangerously ?
[2016-06-05 13:13:12] 1QaZxSw2 : there go the dreams of 600
[2016-06-05 13:13:41] 1QaZxSw2 : why is ok coin called woodchipper
[2016-06-05 13:14:42] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: because they chip wood
[2016-06-05 13:14:57] 1QaZxSw2 : i wish i knew what it meant
[2016-06-05 13:15:05] BitMEX_Wally : 
[2016-06-05 13:15:55] BitMEX_Wally : I think Whalepool started calling it that because the market maker would force the price up and down and liquidate positions
[2016-06-05 13:16:14] 1QaZxSw2 : holy crap, they still do that?
[2016-06-05 13:16:52] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess they somehow profit from liquidations?
[2016-06-05 13:17:30] Mr Blue : I wish they'd chip a little wood now so I can get in cheap lol
[2016-06-05 13:17:34] ayy_lmao : they can close their own orders into liquidations
[2016-06-05 13:17:48] 1QaZxSw2 : ah, i see
[2016-06-05 13:17:53] 1QaZxSw2 : like a stop run
[2016-06-05 13:18:13] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: haha ye don't use them my self, but do watch the charts
[2016-06-05 13:19:59] 1QaZxSw2 : this whipsaw is best for bots
[2016-06-05 13:33:14] 1QaZxSw2 : i bought a bit here, i think the damn thing will whipsaw for a while
[2016-06-05 13:34:08] 1QaZxSw2 : so 578 or so now may go back to 582 or even 588
[2016-06-05 13:34:09] ggwp : big bear div
[2016-06-05 13:34:15] ggwp : 4 hr
[2016-06-05 13:34:19] ggwp : doubt it
[2016-06-05 13:34:35] ggwp : risky imo
[2016-06-05 13:34:48] ggwp : cya l8r guys
[2016-06-05 13:39:37] Mr Blue : ggwp: cya
[2016-06-05 13:41:02] 1QaZxSw2 : comeon 582
[2016-06-05 13:42:05] Mr Blue : Man I'm still hoping on 575 sure some dirty bugger too all at 576
[2016-06-05 13:42:26] Mr Blue : Took all*
[2016-06-05 13:46:09] 1QaZxSw2 : ya, i learnt to avoid round numbers
[2016-06-05 13:46:17] 1QaZxSw2 : 575.08 instead of 575
[2016-06-05 13:46:32] 1QaZxSw2 : i guess at these prices its 576 instead of 575
[2016-06-05 13:47:48] Mr Blue : 1QaZxSw2: I'd of took at any price in the 575 range 575.90 an below
[2016-06-05 13:48:07] Mr Blue : But ye guess 576 could be nice
[2016-06-05 14:20:12] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas?
[2016-06-05 14:20:36] sq : is it time to shrot?!
[2016-06-05 14:20:51] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: afternoon mate, not bad just looking to buy in my self
[2016-06-05 14:23:33] ggwp : I think your kick in the nuts is en voyage
[2016-06-05 14:23:56] rapidtrades : nah we're cool
[2016-06-05 14:24:07] ggwp : closed/
[2016-06-05 14:24:09] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-05 14:24:10] rapidtrades : rocket is still on the platform, ready for liftoff
[2016-06-05 14:24:18] ggwp : hehehe
[2016-06-05 14:24:35] ggwp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo
[2016-06-05 14:24:52] sq : lol
[2016-06-05 14:25:06] ggwp : [spoiler][/spoiler]
[2016-06-05 14:26:17] ggwp : compulsory CYKA BLYAT
[2016-06-05 14:27:10] rapidtrades : dam no GPS for Russia!
[2016-06-05 14:27:54] ggwp : their glonass program xD
[2016-06-05 14:33:48] rapidtrades : how many hrs will it take me to start coding simple bots in pyhton?
[2016-06-05 14:34:20] rapidtrades : for example a basic straddle, if we go up X, buy, if we go down X sell
[2016-06-05 14:34:52] rapidtrades : simple shit like that
[2016-06-05 14:35:26] sq : BitMEX_Wally: i see bfx usd lending at around 0.07%
[2016-06-05 14:35:29] tscha : rapidtrades: you asked the same question 6 months ago, if you had started back then you would have a full blown market maker now
[2016-06-05 14:35:38] sq : y is yourfunding at 0.0234%?
[2016-06-05 14:35:50] rapidtrades : I KNOW OKAY @tscha
[2016-06-05 14:36:07] ayy_lmao : rapid trades, to learn or to write?
[2016-06-05 14:36:54] BitMEX_Wally : sq: Because we charge 3 times a day
[2016-06-05 14:37:16] BitMEX_Wally : So the amount charged is a third
[2016-06-05 14:37:26] sq : oh okie
[2016-06-05 14:37:35] sq : when did u change?
[2016-06-05 14:37:37] sq : used to be daily right
[2016-06-05 14:37:47] rapidtrades : ayy_lmao: to write code yes
[2016-06-05 14:38:11] BitMEX_Wally : sq: Yes used to be daily. We changed it Saturday 12:00 UTC
[2016-06-05 14:38:16] sq : ic tks vm
[2016-06-05 14:38:53] BitMEX_Wally : So XBTUSD has 8 hour funding interval, and daily rebalance.
[2016-06-05 14:38:59] BitMEX_Wally : The rest of the swaps are 24 hour funding interval and weekly rebalance
[2016-06-05 14:39:18] sq : ic, tks
[2016-06-05 14:46:53] rentchev : BitMEX_Wally: are you going to keep the quarterly BTC contracts