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[2016-06-03 09:14:40] rapidtrades : u know i kinda understand why bitmex doesn't offer desktop platforms....
[2016-06-03 09:15:10] rapidtrades : but its a disgrace that we're still using web interface to trade on okc or finex
[2016-06-03 09:16:09] rapidtrades : i think leasing mt4 costs smth like 100k
[2016-06-03 09:21:18] rapidtrades : getting a license not leasing :)
[2016-06-03 09:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 554.25
[2016-06-03 09:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1255 @ 554.23
[2016-06-03 09:28:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 555.32
[2016-06-03 09:46:06] murali : Please don't, mt4 sucks. Just logging in for saying this.
[2016-06-03 10:22:23] asdfman : 5m wants up, 15-30-1h wants down
[2016-06-03 10:42:34] Mr Blue : I think ok coin is pumping but coin Desk has gone down lol can anybody confirm
[2016-06-03 10:43:34] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: https://www.okcoin.com/marketList.do
[2016-06-03 10:43:53] rapidtrades : well u know which part to replace :)
[2016-06-03 10:46:49] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: thanks mate, I've got a real time chart up for it now anyways but I'll check it out
[2016-06-03 10:56:48] asdfman : there it is
[2016-06-03 10:58:59] asdfman : now that, I don't wanna do again; shorted @558.38
[2016-06-03 10:59:06] asdfman : -,
[2016-06-03 10:59:20] elmorte : If you have a bunch of USD sitting on finex right now....what would you do to take best advantage of the situation?
[2016-06-03 11:08:08] Mr Blue : elmorte: hard one, looks like it will go to $560 sooner rather than later, but the fiñex market looks to be a dirty fight between buy and sell for 560 compared to ItBit or Okcoin
[2016-06-03 11:09:31] elmorte : *sigh*
[2016-06-03 11:10:08] elmorte : Still can't believe I panic-sold at 530....partly coz I don't remember it
[2016-06-03 11:10:37] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-03 11:10:56] elmorte : absolutely no recollection
[2016-06-03 11:11:42] Mr Blue : elmorte: lol I like to keep as much as possible in Bitcoin, I consider Bitcoin gains profit, Fiat gains on my Bitcoin are nice, but I really need to build up big stash of BTC
[2016-06-03 11:12:11] elmorte : Yeah, I have them spread out all around..just don't know why I sold the finex stash
[2016-06-03 11:12:38] Mr Blue : elmorte: cool
[2016-06-03 11:31:00] vbmithr : Hi
[2016-06-03 11:31:33] vbmithr : If there are bitsouk.com users amongst you, now the server is hosted at the same datacenter as bitmex, so < 1ms latency :)
[2016-06-03 11:33:33] vbmithr : rapidtrades?
[2016-06-03 11:33:47] vbmithr : Use Sierra Chart!
[2016-06-03 11:34:08] vbmithr : (rapidtrades): but its a disgrace that we're still using web interface to trade on okc or finex
[2016-06-03 11:34:22] vbmithr : You can use Sierra Chart to trade on BitMEX
[2016-06-03 11:34:26] vbmithr : it's better than MT4 :)
[2016-06-03 11:38:48] vbmithr : You can trade of bitfinex with it soon too :) Just finished coding this.
[2016-06-03 11:48:35] rapidtrades : vbmithr: how is sierra better
[2016-06-03 11:48:58] rapidtrades : dude i can run several mt4s on my shitty laptop with no lag
[2016-06-03 11:49:24] rapidtrades : plus there's tons of indicators, EAs and scripts already available
[2016-06-03 11:50:30] rapidtrades : find me charts that are easier to use
[2016-06-03 11:51:00] rapidtrades : u can flick through different timeframes with no lag, it happens almost instantly...u can change instruments instatnly
[2016-06-03 11:51:10] rapidtrades : the platform is incredibly fast
[2016-06-03 11:53:18] rapidtrades : i've tried web based charts, java based charts, tried IB, TOS etc....nothing comes close to it in terms of speed
[2016-06-03 12:06:49] vbmithr : try it
[2016-06-03 12:07:00] vbmithr : Actually I don't know if it's better
[2016-06-03 12:07:05] jesperf : what's the catch with mt4? is it really free?
[2016-06-03 12:07:32] vbmithr : I think it's very similar to MT4
[2016-06-03 12:07:48] vbmithr : But if you want to trade on BitMEX with a software then only Sierra Chart is available for now
[2016-06-03 12:08:22] vbmithr : I supported Sierra Chart because it offers an open API to integrate trading services with it
[2016-06-03 12:08:45] vbmithr : But in terms of speed I think SC is excellent, probably as good or better as MT4
[2016-06-03 12:09:02] vbmithr : MT4 probably fast enough so that "faster" has no point anyway
[2016-06-03 12:09:27] dorothy490 : vbmithr: SC has tonns of options which is overcomplicated
[2016-06-03 12:09:38] vbmithr : rapidtrades: But I would be very happy to have your feedback on Sierra Chart @ BitMEX, as a user of MT4 with experience trading elsewhere
[2016-06-03 12:09:50] vbmithr : dorothy: You don't need to use them
[2016-06-03 12:09:56] vbmithr : It's not that complicated actually
[2016-06-03 12:09:57] dorothy490 : I want conditional orders
[2016-06-03 12:10:07] vbmithr : Yeah there is this of course
[2016-06-03 12:10:14] vbmithr : "attached orders" on the trading window
[2016-06-03 12:10:14] dorothy490 : stop loss and take profit at the same time
[2016-06-03 12:10:20] vbmithr : yeah
[2016-06-03 12:10:24] vbmithr : I support this.
[2016-06-03 12:10:30] dorothy490 : is it possibl eto have in SC?
[2016-06-03 12:10:34] vbmithr : yes
[2016-06-03 12:10:41] vbmithr : Available right now.
[2016-06-03 12:10:44] dorothy490 : can you shouw me how?
[2016-06-03 12:10:54] vbmithr : bitsouk.com
[2016-06-03 12:11:11] vbmithr : create an account there, put your bitmex api key, use sierra chart entry "bitsouk"
[2016-06-03 12:11:22] dorothy490 : yes I did
[2016-06-03 12:11:30] vbmithr : ok then
[2016-06-03 12:11:34] vbmithr : on the trading window
[2016-06-03 12:12:12] vbmithr : Trade > Attach trade window to chart
[2016-06-03 12:12:23] dorothy490 : ok
[2016-06-03 12:12:25] vbmithr : click attached orders
[2016-06-03 12:12:38] vbmithr : in tab Target
[2016-06-03 12:12:45] vbmithr : that's where you put your target and limit
[2016-06-03 12:13:13] vbmithr : you can select the offset in tick for the trigger
[2016-06-03 12:13:30] vbmithr : and when then, when you add an order
[2016-06-03 12:13:33] dorothy490 : so it will not actually create orders on bitmex but rather checking like very second if conditions are met?
[2016-06-03 12:13:42] vbmithr : no, it does
[2016-06-03 12:13:49] vbmithr : bitmex handles this on the API
[2016-06-03 12:13:59] vbmithr : It sets the main order as the trigger for the two others
[2016-06-03 12:14:19] vbmithr : and the 2 others are in an OCO group, meaning that they cancel themselves
[2016-06-03 12:14:23] vbmithr : if one is filled
[2016-06-03 12:14:37] vbmithr : So basically, the contingent orders only activates if the main is filled
[2016-06-03 12:15:06] vbmithr : and only one of the 2 contingent orders will fill
[2016-06-03 12:15:22] vbmithr : that's called "bracket orders" sometimes
[2016-06-03 12:15:27] vbmithr : well Sierra Chart call them that
[2016-06-03 12:15:36] dorothy490 : can I setup orders like buy 500 sell 550 (full margin) and then sell 550 right after I sold my long again?
[2016-06-03 12:15:41] jebus9 : i cant cancel a withdraw after its been confirmed?
[2016-06-03 12:15:41] jebus9 : that sucks.
[2016-06-03 12:16:00] vbmithr : Doc here: http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_AttachedOrders.html
[2016-06-03 12:16:14] BitMEX_Wally : jebus9: We are working on improving this. In the mean time just email support@bitmex.com and we will cancel it for you
[2016-06-03 12:16:27] jebus9 : <3
[2016-06-03 12:17:23] vbmithr : mmh
[2016-06-03 12:17:37] vbmithr : Probably :)
[2016-06-03 12:17:47] vbmithr : You can do 2 things, basically
[2016-06-03 12:18:02] vbmithr : you can use "OCO" orders that will make than only one on two orders will activate
[2016-06-03 12:18:31] vbmithr : and you can do "OTO" orders to have one trigger the other
[2016-06-03 12:18:59] vbmithr : With BitMEX API you can clearly do all kind of complicated combinations, but you have to code it
[2016-06-03 12:19:19] vbmithr : With Sierra Chart, I'm not sure
[2016-06-03 12:19:24] vbmithr : I only tested OCO orders
[2016-06-03 12:19:45] vbmithr : And those "bracket" : One order that if executed, will trigger two orders (stop / take profit) in an OCO group
[2016-06-03 12:20:38] vbmithr : can I setup orders like buy 500 sell 550 (full margin) and then sell 550 right after I sold my long again: if you explain in more details, maybe I can answer precisely
[2016-06-03 12:20:45] vbmithr : I don't understand exactly this
[2016-06-03 12:23:43] BitMEX_Wally : If you went long 1000 contracts at 500 you could then manually submit an order to sell 2000 at 550
[2016-06-03 12:23:53] BitMEX_Wally : That would reverse the position without any need for trigger orders
[2016-06-03 12:25:03] vbmithr : Ahh ok
[2016-06-03 12:25:09] vbmithr : You meant this.
[2016-06-03 12:26:20] vbmithr : So yes you can
[2016-06-03 12:26:23] jebus9 : that was quick, thanks guys
[2016-06-03 12:26:32] BitMEX_Wally : jebus9: Thanks for the email, that withdrawal has been canceled
[2016-06-03 12:26:36] BitMEX_Wally : Hah, snap
[2016-06-03 12:26:49] jebus9 : Winner winne.
[2016-06-03 12:26:53] jebus9 : winner*
[2016-06-03 12:31:06] wurstgelee : 30 mins left until withdrawals are processed, right?
[2016-06-03 12:36:18] jebus9 : ya
[2016-06-03 12:48:01] rapidtrades : jesperf: yes mt4 is free, provided by ur brokers
[2016-06-03 12:48:29] rapidtrades : only btc-e has it for bitcoin afaik
[2016-06-03 12:48:53] rapidtrades : previously ava had it but after gox went busto they stopped trading btc
[2016-06-03 13:27:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 557.25 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-03 13:27:43] vbmithr : :whale: lol
[2016-06-03 13:37:07] daveberns1 : Did someone say there is a leaderboard?
[2016-06-03 13:37:13] daveberns1 : Curious how I rank
[2016-06-03 13:37:53] sleger : click on help
[2016-06-03 13:42:15] daveberns1 : Ahh looks like it likely shows an alias
[2016-06-03 13:42:33] sleger : the row you are is highlighted in yellow
[2016-06-03 13:42:37] sleger : assuming you're in it
[2016-06-03 13:43:26] daveberns1 : Interesting, how goes it sleger?
[2016-06-03 13:46:07] tscha : btw, in mobile, the yellow highlight is missing on the leaderboard
[2016-06-03 13:46:12] tscha : on* mobile
[2016-06-03 13:46:35] rapidtrades : oh no
[2016-06-03 13:46:52] daveberns1 : Seems the consensus is to remain anonymous
[2016-06-03 13:46:58] daveberns1 : Not surprising
[2016-06-03 13:48:25] arbitrage001 : you can see me there
[2016-06-03 13:48:32] arbitrage001 : slowly being booted off
[2016-06-03 13:51:23] sleger : seems that #2 went from 370 to 500 between yesterday and today
[2016-06-03 13:51:39] sleger : #1 hasnt been trading for a while as far as i remember
[2016-06-03 13:56:32] arbitrage001 : 130 btc is a year worth of salary for many
[2016-06-03 13:56:46] rapidtrades : sharp reversal in dollar today
[2016-06-03 13:57:50] rapidtrades : usd/cnh down too..
[2016-06-03 14:03:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 45 @ 0.00175
[2016-06-03 14:09:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `LSKXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.000679
[2016-06-03 14:14:00] hashman : after rebalance, the entry price on a position is not updated to the price at that time
[2016-06-03 14:15:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 270 @ 0.00860
[2016-06-03 14:20:44] BitMEX_Greg : vbmithr: Do you trade a lot with MT4 for other assets?
[2016-06-03 14:23:43] justinlooking : tscha! pm me plz dude
[2016-06-03 14:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 335 @ 560.19
[2016-06-03 14:29:34] wurstgelee : hashman: hover the entryprice to see last rebalance price
[2016-06-03 14:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.02439
[2016-06-03 14:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 8 @ 0.02435
[2016-06-03 14:36:21] nip : when do we go back to 100x leverage?
[2016-06-03 14:36:45] rapidtrades : u guys have a death wise?
[2016-06-03 14:36:57] rapidtrades : what's with all these 100/1 requests?
[2016-06-03 14:37:22] ggwp : ;)
[2016-06-03 14:40:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 89209 @ 563.74 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-03 14:43:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8930 @ 565.07
[2016-06-03 14:43:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 209 @ 565.48
[2016-06-03 14:45:47] sleger : premium kinda small
[2016-06-03 14:46:25] 24hourz : ????
[2016-06-03 14:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.02385
[2016-06-03 14:51:15] BitMEX_Wally : `.USDBON` rate still only 0.09% or so
[2016-06-03 14:51:34] rapidtrades : what's with the samll premium
[2016-06-03 14:53:08] BitMEX_Wally : Market makers feel more comfortable shorting with the move to 8 hour funding
[2016-06-03 14:53:34] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-06-03 14:53:38] rentchev : also no China premium on this move
[2016-06-03 14:54:15] rapidtrades : not moving my ask, come and fill it b1tches
[2016-06-03 14:57:06] Mr Blue : REKT: $580 next target?
[2016-06-03 14:57:27] rapidtrades : you know REKT's a bot right
[2016-06-03 14:58:07] rapidtrades : he can't talk yet :)
[2016-06-03 15:00:17] ggwp : :O
[2016-06-03 15:00:21] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I had guesses he was a bot, clicked his name by accident, was a general question, I notice ok coin ex has no real resistance to $580
[2016-06-03 15:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LSKXBT`: Buy 419 @ 0.000713
[2016-06-03 15:02:37] rapidtrades : this is yearly high in USD right?
[2016-06-03 15:03:14] rapidtrades : i think chinas falling behind cos dollar got spanked today
[2016-06-03 15:04:40] Mr Blue : Cool
[2016-06-03 15:04:40] rapidtrades : usd/cnh down half percent
[2016-06-03 15:39:13] rapidtrades : did they segregate bitcoin and shitcoin insurance funds?
[2016-06-03 15:56:51] 24hourz : I'm actually curious about the dog insurance if it is segregated between coins
[2016-06-03 16:05:07] j8 : is it really necessary to insure your dog
[2016-06-03 16:08:16] vbmithr : Greg: I don't trade with MT4 at all.
[2016-06-03 16:10:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 13701 @ 566.44
[2016-06-03 16:10:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 82 @ 566.60
[2016-06-03 16:11:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 567.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-03 16:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 350 @ 0.02368
[2016-06-03 16:11:48] 24hourz : Fomo
[2016-06-03 16:12:04] tscha : Cream-White-Ox is long hard, just follow his strategy :P
[2016-06-03 16:15:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1300 @ 0.02342
[2016-06-03 16:29:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1200 @ 573.70
[2016-06-03 16:31:36] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: was my withdrawal included in the daily batch?
[2016-06-03 16:31:54] BitMEX_Wally : If it was requested and confirmed before 13:00 UTC it was
[2016-06-03 16:31:59] sleger : tscha: must suck to have sold all your coins just before the big rally...
[2016-06-03 16:32:10] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: is there a way you could check?
[2016-06-03 16:32:45] tscha : sleger: not really, because it was the right decision with the information I had.
[2016-06-03 16:32:49] zanza : Did I miss another break out?
[2016-06-03 16:32:52] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: You could check your self
[2016-06-03 16:33:01] zanza : rofl
[2016-06-03 16:33:12] sleger : tscha: well I meant a posteriori, not saying anyone can predict such big move like that
[2016-06-03 16:33:21] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: I see a withdrawal requested at 13:12:42 UTC and confirmed at 13:41:11 UTC. You were sent emails for both these events
[2016-06-03 16:33:44] sleger : yes but is 13:41 UTC before 13 UTC is the whole question...
[2016-06-03 16:33:56] BitMEX_Wally : Correction *13:14:11 UTC
[2016-06-03 16:34:09] sleger : ah that changes everything
[2016-06-03 16:34:25] ggwp : so it's gonna go out tomorrow?
[2016-06-03 16:34:50] sleger : if 13:14UTC is before 13UTC tomorrow then yes
[2016-06-03 16:35:04] zanza : damn rekt
[2016-06-03 16:35:18] ggwp : :)
[2016-06-03 16:35:31] ggwp : any way I could cancel it
[2016-06-03 16:35:50] rapidtrades : why would u wanna cancel it
[2016-06-03 16:35:53] zanza : probably, email their support ggwp
[2016-06-03 16:36:48] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Yes just email support@bitmex.com and we will cancel it for you
[2016-06-03 16:37:02] rapidtrades : only $2 premium for china....niceeeeee
[2016-06-03 16:37:08] zanza : he doesn't want to exit the casino yet @rapidtrades :)
[2016-06-03 16:37:18] ggwp : alright
[2016-06-03 16:37:34] sleger : rapidtrades: it was even negative by couple of $ at some point
[2016-06-03 16:37:46] rapidtrades : man sry i missed that
[2016-06-03 16:38:14] sleger : i unwind half that trade already
[2016-06-03 16:38:40] rapidtrades : actually we may see more of that considering the usd/cnh is sharly lower today
[2016-06-03 16:40:54] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Thanks for the email, that's been canceled
[2016-06-03 16:43:28] ggwp : great
[2016-06-03 16:43:31] ggwp : thanks
[2016-06-03 16:44:26] rapidtrades : don't spend it all in one place!
[2016-06-03 16:44:51] rapidtrades : i just realised how stupid that saying is...
[2016-06-03 16:45:06] rapidtrades : why shouldn't you spent it all in one place?
[2016-06-03 16:45:13] rapidtrades : what if ur in a discount store?
[2016-06-03 16:45:21] BitMEX_Wally : The saying I heard was "Don't spend it all at once"
[2016-06-03 16:45:28] rapidtrades : wait
[2016-06-03 16:45:53] rapidtrades : http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Don%27t+spend+it+all+in+one+place
[2016-06-03 16:46:56] rapidtrades : back to my tangent
[2016-06-03 16:47:19] rapidtrades : what if ice cream is more expensive across the road?
[2016-06-03 16:48:09] rapidtrades : or everything is of great quality in said store
[2016-06-03 16:48:23] rapidtrades : and u still suppose to not spend it all in one place?
[2016-06-03 16:48:52] rapidtrades : what if u had to break a $50? then you HAVE to spend it all in one place
[2016-06-03 16:49:04] rapidtrades : technically
[2016-06-03 16:49:25] zanza : ban rapidtrades again
[2016-06-03 16:49:28] zanza : j/k
[2016-06-03 16:49:34] zanza : hes RAMBLING
[2016-06-03 16:51:23] zanza : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo
[2016-06-03 17:00:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: "peaceful protest" ???
[2016-06-03 17:01:40] rapidtrades : TRIGGERED
[2016-06-03 17:04:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There was no peaceful part
[2016-06-03 17:04:55] rapidtrades : so the left act like retards everywhere, what else is new
[2016-06-03 17:06:29] rapidtrades : can't wait for the debates, its gonna be glorious
[2016-06-03 17:07:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not advocating violence at all, but I'm not sure what people expect for supporting hate speech either
[2016-06-03 17:07:37] Mr Blue : Hope you guys did well on today's increase, I nearly made a full BTC profit, thanks BitMex
[2016-06-03 17:07:43] ggwp : it's gonna be sad
[2016-06-03 17:07:48] ggwp : not glorious
[2016-06-03 17:08:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ggwp: agreed
[2016-06-03 17:08:31] rapidtrades : TRUMP: Crooked Hillary couldn't even keep her man straight, how's she gonna run the country?
[2016-06-03 17:08:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: very nice. .5 BTC here so far
[2016-06-03 17:09:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I would ask if he actually said that but I think I know the answer already. That's fucked up
[2016-06-03 17:09:12] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: grats mate, its been a good day
[2016-06-03 17:09:35] rapidtrades : nah that's hyperbole but he'll go there eventually lol
[2016-06-03 17:09:56] ggwp : fuck
[2016-06-03 17:10:01] ggwp : aha!
[2016-06-03 17:11:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ggwp: haha yeah BitMEX's chat filters are great
[2016-06-03 17:11:19] rapidtrades : what chat filters?
[2016-06-03 17:11:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : f word -> gently caress
[2016-06-03 17:11:41] rapidtrades : i want to ban some words too, like Oxford
[2016-06-03 17:11:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ok coin -> the woodchipper
[2016-06-03 17:11:53] ggwp : okcoin
[2016-06-03 17:11:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : huo bi -> huobi
[2016-06-03 17:12:04] rapidtrades : Ive league
[2016-06-03 17:12:05] ggwp : hehehehe
[2016-06-03 17:12:10] ggwp : shit
[2016-06-03 17:12:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I don't remember if there are more
[2016-06-03 17:12:18] ggwp : huobi
[2016-06-03 17:12:27] ggwp : this is funnier than it should be
[2016-06-03 17:12:53] rapidtrades : its rly not that funny if you're seeing it for months
[2016-06-03 17:13:03] rapidtrades : its a bit annoying tbh
[2016-06-03 17:13:05] ggwp : yeah, I'm fairly new here
[2016-06-03 17:13:20] rapidtrades : type the n-word
[2016-06-03 17:13:39] rapidtrades : do it pussy
[2016-06-03 17:14:02] ggwp : numbskull
[2016-06-03 17:14:05] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-03 17:14:15] sleger : narcomania
[2016-06-03 17:14:18] rapidtrades : no the other one :)
[2016-06-03 17:14:31] ggwp : NIRP
[2016-06-03 17:14:33] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-03 17:14:47] sleger : ohhh the dirty one :
[2016-06-03 17:14:48] sleger : necromania
[2016-06-03 17:15:01] ggwp : necrophilia!
[2016-06-03 17:15:02] rapidtrades : the euphemism for BLACK u retards
[2016-06-03 17:15:14] ggwp : negroid?
[2016-06-03 17:15:24] rapidtrades : close...
[2016-06-03 17:15:39] rapidtrades : that's just ugly cos it didn't get filtered... @ggwp
[2016-06-03 17:15:45] rapidtrades : why would u say that
[2016-06-03 17:15:48] sleger : lol
[2016-06-03 17:15:59] ggwp : hehehe pussy
[2016-06-03 17:17:05] sleger : the R word is not filtered though, maybe because there are too many of those around here. By the way, in a completely unrelated way, what's up with supermine
[2016-06-03 17:17:35] rapidtrades : idk i think he's still making money
[2016-06-03 17:18:00] rapidtrades : unfortunately...but he'll slip up soon hopefully
[2016-06-03 17:19:01] rapidtrades : ggwp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-word
[2016-06-03 17:19:36] ggwp : Nazi?
[2016-06-03 17:19:50] ggwp : but not many of those are black
[2016-06-03 17:19:55] ggwp : I don't get it man
[2016-06-03 17:22:18] rapidtrades : ggwp: u wont get banned
[2016-06-03 17:23:26] ggwp : u must be real bored man
[2016-06-03 17:24:30] rapidtrades : ok nvm
[2016-06-03 17:25:27] rapidtrades : ofc I'm bored, staring at a screen all day
[2016-06-03 17:25:32] blablabla : nigger
[2016-06-03 17:25:52] blablabla : it works ggwp, don't worry
[2016-06-03 17:25:59] ggwp : it's like watching paint dry
[2016-06-03 17:26:04] ggwp : nigger
[2016-06-03 17:26:09] ggwp : there you go
[2016-06-03 17:26:36] rapidtrades : too late, now you're just a follower
[2016-06-03 17:26:52] ggwp : lead, follow, or get out of the way?
[2016-06-03 17:27:12] rapidtrades : well we know which we u are
[2016-06-03 17:27:24] rapidtrades : we=one
[2016-06-03 17:27:51] ggwp : we're all three
[2016-06-03 17:27:57] blablabla : http://i.imgur.com/QMJVXSF.png
[2016-06-03 17:28:04] ggwp : cause the addage is bs
[2016-06-03 17:28:14] ggwp : :O
[2016-06-03 17:28:47] rapidtrades : wow...are we crashing
[2016-06-03 17:29:06] ggwp : dewm
[2016-06-03 17:29:12] ggwp : panic sell nao
[2016-06-03 17:29:30] ggwp : fullretracecoin
[2016-06-03 17:29:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : closed my short way too early :/
[2016-06-03 17:30:02] ggwp : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: better too early than too late
[2016-06-03 17:30:08] ggwp : #norugrats
[2016-06-03 17:30:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ggwp: true
[2016-06-03 17:30:20] zanza : time to start chat banning
[2016-06-03 17:30:30] zanza : actually, an "ignore" feature would be preferable
[2016-06-03 17:30:35] ggwp : ^this
[2016-06-03 17:30:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : /ignore zanza
[2016-06-03 17:30:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : oops
[2016-06-03 17:30:53] ggwp : it's on his list to do
[2016-06-03 17:31:03] justinlooking : u kinda can with css
[2016-06-03 17:31:04] rapidtrades : jezz....u want some tampons too? @zanza @ggwp
[2016-06-03 17:31:34] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-03 17:32:19] rapidtrades : why would u ignore smone? are u that sensitive?
[2016-06-03 17:33:15] ggwp : waste of time?
[2016-06-03 17:33:25] ggwp : annoying?
[2016-06-03 17:33:56] rapidtrades : oh I'm sorry, I didn't know ur time was so valuable
[2016-06-03 17:34:14] ggwp : everyone's time is valuable
[2016-06-03 17:34:28] ggwp : if you don't value your time...
[2016-06-03 17:34:40] vbmithr : I'm going to restart bitsouk, if anybody using it just now, tell me :)
[2016-06-03 17:35:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : vbmithr: what is bitsouk?
[2016-06-03 17:36:18] vbmithr : (IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb): www.bitsouk.com A connector between BitMEX and Sierra Chart
[2016-06-03 17:36:37] vbmithr : You can trade on BitMEX with Sierra Chart with that service
[2016-06-03 17:36:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : vbmithr: ah ok
[2016-06-03 17:36:48] rapidtrades : noone is using that, u can safely restart
[2016-06-03 17:36:52] vbmithr : :)
[2016-06-03 17:36:55] ggwp : ;_;
[2016-06-03 17:37:09] vbmithr : I just added the "stop on last price" feature on bitmex
[2016-06-03 17:37:24] vbmithr : now you can choose that your stops are activated on last price instead that on mark price
[2016-06-03 17:37:58] vbmithr : might not always be a good idea, but sometimes I want that the stop activate on last price and not on mark price
[2016-06-03 17:39:38] ggwp : sounds cool
[2016-06-03 17:39:46] ggwp : good luck with your proj
[2016-06-03 17:41:17] vbmithr : thanks :)
[2016-06-03 17:41:24] vbmithr : I'm also supporting bitfinex now
[2016-06-03 17:42:17] zanza : whoa, what happend with USD CNH ?
[2016-06-03 17:42:29] zanza : dropped 5 cents from last night
[2016-06-03 17:45:35] ggwp : check gold and spx
[2016-06-03 17:49:29] zanza : i really need SPX to drop to like 1900
[2016-06-03 17:49:31] zanza : preferably soon
[2016-06-03 17:50:36] ggwp : it's gonna rally :)
[2016-06-03 17:52:09] zanza : it could
[2016-06-03 17:52:21] zanza : who knows what Yellen is buying
[2016-06-03 17:52:29] ggwp : bitcoin xD
[2016-06-03 17:59:00] dorothy490 : vbmithr: hey
[2016-06-03 18:02:55] elmorte : What's the difference between close and market buttons on mobile?
[2016-06-03 18:04:21] dorothy490 : elmorte: market will close all position, and close will close part of position on that price you will enter
[2016-06-03 18:05:30] elmorte : Ah, so the textbox with the value is only for the Close button?
[2016-06-03 18:07:00] dorothy490 : right
[2016-06-03 18:07:53] elmorte : dorothy490: Got it, thank you
[2016-06-03 18:12:16] elmorte : I reckon a Trailing Stop Mark order would be useful right now
[2016-06-03 18:12:54] elmorte : More so than the Trailing Market one
[2016-06-03 18:33:55] elmorte : What were the conditions required for a short to cause the system to liquidate the position rather than close to market? @sleger mentioned it a few days ago
[2016-06-03 18:33:57] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/goldman-slaughters-its-clients-again-chinese-yuan-surges-most-five-years-day-after-g
[2016-06-03 18:40:17] rapidtrades : zanza: jobs
[2016-06-03 18:46:46] elmorte : Oh, by payroll they mean jobs
[2016-06-03 19:46:41] rapidtrades : so next rebalance is in 14 mins?
[2016-06-03 19:48:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: 16 hours, 11 minutes, 40 seconds
[2016-06-03 19:48:49] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: no jew, we're on 8 hr segments now
[2016-06-03 19:49:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: not according to the rebalance countdown. when was it changed?
[2016-06-03 19:49:44] rapidtrades : idk wally said it earlier, that's why im looking for confirmation
[2016-06-03 19:50:02] rapidtrades : support
[2016-06-03 19:50:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I guess we'll find out soon. Funding is still every 24 hours?
[2016-06-03 19:50:34] rapidtrades : hmmm...hmmm....i have no idea
[2016-06-03 19:50:38] rapidtrades : prolly yea
[2016-06-03 19:51:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It would be nice if we were alerted of these changes without having to be in the chatbox all the time
[2016-06-03 19:51:53] rapidtrades : ur say that like its a bad thing...
[2016-06-03 19:52:03] BitMEX_Sam : Rebalance is staying at 24hrs, funding is moving to 8hrs on Jun 4
[2016-06-03 19:52:09] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: We sent an email yesterday outlining the changes
[2016-06-03 19:52:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Ah ok, I didn't see it. My apologies
[2016-06-03 19:52:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Does that mean that the funding fee will be 1/3 of what it would normally be as well?
[2016-06-03 19:52:43] rapidtrades : oh so only the rate is on 8hrs? weird call....
[2016-06-03 19:52:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-06-03 19:53:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Ok thanks. What is the reason for the change? Or should I just read the email? :p
[2016-06-03 19:53:24] rapidtrades : the rebalance will still be at mark right @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-03 19:53:30] BitMEX_Sam : Actually the email doesn't give a reason, it should have
[2016-06-03 19:53:37] BitMEX_Sam : The idea is to better capture funding changes throughout the day
[2016-06-03 19:53:39] BitMEX_Sam : Inspired by last weekend
[2016-06-03 19:53:46] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yes, rebalance is always at mark
[2016-06-03 19:53:48] rapidtrades : ah good point
[2016-06-03 19:54:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: That makes sense to me. Thanks!
[2016-06-03 19:55:10] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-06-03 19:56:37] rapidtrades : we would prefer it all done at 8 hr chunks but i guess that's prolly bit much for the plebs
[2016-06-03 19:58:06] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: is it possible to submit "marketIfTouched" order based on lastprice instead of market?
[2016-06-03 20:03:06] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: That should be possible with an `execInst` of `LastPrice`
[2016-06-03 20:03:43] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_new
[2016-06-03 20:05:18] rapidtrades : Yuan now 0.7% higher
[2016-06-03 20:06:38] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: wait, funding rate will be 1/3th of current rate? shouldn't it be (1+x)^(1/3)-1, whereas x is the 24h rate?
[2016-06-03 20:07:43] tscha : so you get the equivalent interest rate for 1/3th of the interval
[2016-06-03 20:07:49] rapidtrades : my guess is it should be simple 1/3 since we're not compounding
[2016-06-03 20:07:55] BitMEX_Sam : The point is to capture changes in the underlying rates more frequently, not to simply charge them more frequently
[2016-06-03 20:08:18] BitMEX_Sam : > The funding rate will be the previous 8 hour time weighted average rate taken at one minute intervals. The funding rate will then be divided by 3 to arrive at an outright 8 hour rate. The funding rate calculated between 04:00 UTC to 12:00 UTC will published at 12:00 UTC and then charged at 20:00 UTC.
[2016-06-03 20:09:04] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: can you pls check why im getting error at your API?
[2016-06-03 20:09:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: he's asking why its a simple 1/3 split
[2016-06-03 20:09:05] tscha : true of course, my bad, though now you can reinvest the interest rate faster
[2016-06-03 20:09:19] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Yes, one minute
[2016-06-03 20:09:28] tscha : cool change
[2016-06-03 20:09:29] BitMEX_Sam : Are you using Testnet or this site?
[2016-06-03 20:09:38] dorothy490 : this site via our link
[2016-06-03 20:09:53] dorothy490 : { "error": { "message": "side is invalid", "name": "HTTPError" } }
[2016-06-03 20:10:30] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Yes, you need to specify a side
[2016-06-03 20:10:55] BitMEX_Sam : Ah sorry I see what happened
[2016-06-03 20:10:59] rapidtrades : pick Jedi!
[2016-06-03 20:11:09] BitMEX_Sam : You can either not specify a `side` at all (and use positive or negative quantities to indicate buy/sell)
[2016-06-03 20:11:19] BitMEX_Sam : Or, if you do, it's `Sell` or `Buy`, note the uppercase first letter
[2016-06-03 20:11:36] rapidtrades : or alternatively, pick Jedi
[2016-06-03 20:11:39] BitMEX_Sam : That's a dumb thing for us to error on so I'll make it case-insensitive in the future.
[2016-06-03 20:12:00] rapidtrades : be on the right side of history
[2016-06-03 20:13:13] dorothy490 : great, though I wouldn't be able to see a difference on my order panel (between market/last price triggers)
[2016-06-03 20:14:07] rapidtrades : the guy above with the seirra charts implemented last price
[2016-06-03 20:14:10] dorothy490 : also my order somehow dissapeared in a after 1 minute :P guess maring is not enough ? but it doesnt accounts for the margin, is it?
[2016-06-03 20:14:40] rapidtrades : so he says...i haven't used his charts
[2016-06-03 20:17:39] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: why that 'last price' order keep dissapearing in 1 min?
[2016-06-03 20:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 576.51
[2016-06-03 20:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 577.06 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-03 21:04:59] zanza : 2 mil open interest coming soon
[2016-06-03 21:12:47] sleger : did supermine decide to triple his investment ?
[2016-06-03 21:18:49] aethlios : only 4.3 mil. usd left in bfx margin to send rates above 1%.
[2016-06-03 21:21:14] sleger : thats actually quite a lot
[2016-06-03 21:22:23] sleger : the top 579.94 was my sell order
[2016-06-03 21:23:06] sleger : oops no sorry mine was 579.79
[2016-06-03 21:23:42] arbitrage001 : raging bull
[2016-06-03 21:23:58] arbitrage001 : didnt expect the bull balls are this big
[2016-06-03 21:24:33] arbitrage001 : thought i will have some bull balls for dinner soon
[2016-06-03 21:25:47] vbmithr : hey
[2016-06-03 21:39:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Who's the crazy mofo trying to open a 107000 contract long?
[2016-06-03 21:42:38] turtlefight : Someones yoloing too hard
[2016-06-03 21:42:46] QuantFocus : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: smart money
[2016-06-03 21:43:29] turtlefight : Nope a gambler with 100x leverage :)
[2016-06-03 21:44:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : turtlefight: that's my best bet
[2016-06-03 21:45:17] j8 : maybe they're just being cautious and reducing their 500k short
[2016-06-03 21:45:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : j8: hahaha perhaps
[2016-06-03 21:50:29] QuantFocus : does the 'Close Position' function simply enter a limit order on the market based on size of current position?
[2016-06-03 21:50:56] QuantFocus : Not that I'm closing...but for the future
[2016-06-03 21:51:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : QuantFocus: it enters a limit order for the position size at the price entered in the textbox
[2016-06-03 21:51:24] justinlooking : and pulls orders
[2016-06-03 21:51:25] QuantFocus : ok thanks, that's what I figured.
[2016-06-03 21:51:34] QuantFocus : justinlooking: ah, cool
[2016-06-03 21:51:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : justinlooking: pulls orders?
[2016-06-03 21:52:15] QuantFocus : Was just curious, because of the rebalance mechanism, if that would actually close the position, or if market liquidity was still required
[2016-06-03 21:53:34] justinlooking : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: , yeh, if u are working orders in that instrument, they're pulled before entering a close limit order. i have not used the market button yet but figure it does the same
[2016-06-03 21:56:03] rapidtrades : lot of volatility
[2016-06-03 21:56:21] rapidtrades : okc quaterly down 5 then up
[2016-06-03 22:07:14] rapidtrades : how's HODLing?
[2016-06-03 22:07:33] rapidtrades : meant who
[2016-06-03 22:09:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : justinlooking: very cool
[2016-06-03 22:10:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I am. Just trading with a few percent of my cold storage
[2016-06-03 22:12:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: you?
[2016-06-03 22:13:35] rapidtrades : yea im long, bit leveraged :)
[2016-06-03 22:15:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Nice. Not in a position right now here. I seem to be closing trades too early recently so I'm taking a break and sitting on my profit. Still watching the market of course :)
[2016-06-03 22:16:54] rapidtrades : i look forward to automating soon so i don't have to watch
[2016-06-03 22:18:31] rapidtrades : guess i should crack open that pyhton book
[2016-06-03 22:23:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I've experimented with that kind of thing before, but I just don't feel confident giving my precious bitcoin to an automated strategy
[2016-06-03 22:25:18] rapidtrades : i trust an automated strategy more, the brain is one hell of a drug
[2016-06-03 22:25:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Haha true. The difficult part is using that brain to come up with a successful strategy
[2016-06-03 22:26:33] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: what do u classify as successful
[2016-06-03 22:27:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: better profit than holding long term
[2016-06-03 22:27:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: by a large enough percentage that it's worth it
[2016-06-03 22:28:21] rapidtrades : that's gonna be a tall order if bitcoin continues to appreciate
[2016-06-03 22:30:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: yep. that's why I haven't made the effort to algo trade successfully
[2016-06-03 22:30:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: what's your goal? a decent percentage usd return?
[2016-06-03 22:32:01] rapidtrades : yeah, decent yearly % on average with reasonable risk across everything...i trade more then crypto
[2016-06-03 22:32:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I see, that makes sense
[2016-06-03 22:55:54] Mr Blue : 12pm pump fight incoming ?
[2016-06-03 23:01:18] Mr Blue : Poor show ladies
[2016-06-03 23:02:01] ButchPooch : How do I calc commissions on a 10x ETH long?
[2016-06-03 23:12:12] snack757 : where can i see the details of a position that was liquidated?
[2016-06-03 23:17:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : snack757: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-03 23:22:38] lockhedge : ButchPooch: `Order Value * Entry Commission + Order Value * Exit Commission + Funding Fees` depending on if you provide to or take liquidity from the orderbook you will receive or pay the commission https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-06-03 23:23:09] ButchPooch : Ty!
[2016-06-03 23:25:50] ButchPooch : WHee
[2016-06-03 23:25:50] ButchPooch : re
[2016-06-03 23:25:56] ButchPooch : Where do I find funding fees?
[2016-06-03 23:29:41] sleger : maybe search a tiny bit yourself ?
[2016-06-03 23:54:59] aethlios : did anyone noticed us payrolls number?? 38K realised from 164k expected. 6 years lowest number.
[2016-06-03 23:57:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : aethlios: I saw that. Pretty dismal
[2016-06-04 00:08:34] aethlios : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: and this will send china btc premium to zero, usd crashed, so yuan pegged to usd depreciates too.
[2016-06-04 00:17:18] turtlefight : @aethlios yes. gold exploded today :)
[2016-06-04 00:20:00] mikeh : so do you lose money over time with this rebalancing thing if you have a long in place for weeks with no movement?
[2016-06-04 00:20:08] aethlios : turtlefight: yes and yields in all fiat debt crashed, 10 year german 0.06%, fiat is dead, no yield for pensioners, banks are full of useless debt.
[2016-06-04 00:20:43] Mr Blue : Good time for Bitcoin then ?
[2016-06-04 00:20:53] aethlios : mikeh: You lose from the daily funding rate, the premium (if exists) you pay it once.
[2016-06-04 00:21:07] mikeh : oh just once, that's ok
[2016-06-04 00:21:53] aethlios : mikeh: and if you exit in a higher or same premium, then you get payed back.
[2016-06-04 00:21:56] Mr Blue : aethlios: do you gain if ROE is in the positive in check?
[2016-06-04 00:23:10] aethlios : Mr Blue: what do you mean, if unrealized pnl positive, so the roe is positive.
[2016-06-04 00:23:46] Mr Blue : Also I notice even though market is over the price I paid it's trying to say a loss, if I was to sell, is that because I went x10?
[2016-06-04 00:24:40] Mr Blue : aethlios: doesn't matter mate I'll fitted it all out
[2016-06-04 00:25:22] Mr Blue : Work it all out ?