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[2016-06-03 00:25:30] sleger : oh that was involuntary , shit that sucks
[2016-06-03 00:25:47] BitMEX_Wally : Nah I was out for the TechInAsia article
[2016-06-03 00:26:12] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-06-03 00:26:17] Mr Blue : Calm down ladies, we all know I have the biggest Willy lol
[2016-06-03 00:26:58] supermine : BitMEX_Wally: Possible to speak privately in here?
[2016-06-03 00:27:19] sleger : gsa nice
[2016-06-03 00:27:52] BitMEX_Wally : supermine: not in here but you can email wally@bitmex.com
[2016-06-03 00:28:01] BitMEX_Wally : or ben@bitmex.com of course
[2016-06-03 00:28:09] supermine : ty
[2016-06-03 00:28:14] Mr Blue : I've named him willybot ?
[2016-06-03 00:29:07] sleger : gsa was a good company to be there at the time
[2016-06-03 00:29:36] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yes, but I joined finance at the wrong time
[2016-06-03 00:29:49] sleger : it's too bad the superconvo is going private
[2016-06-03 00:29:59] sleger : we all wanted to be a part of it
[2016-06-03 00:30:12] sleger : bah no, it still pays much more than anywhere else
[2016-06-03 00:30:20] sleger : even if not as decadent as before for most
[2016-06-03 00:30:24] BitMEX_Wally : GSA went from 60 to 120 to 60 employees while I was there
[2016-06-03 00:30:40] rapidtrades : the gentlemen is clearly a celebrity, doesn't want to be DOXXXEd here @sleger
[2016-06-03 00:30:42] sleger : yes but they hired some people then who are becoming super successful now
[2016-06-03 00:31:19] sleger : https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerko
[2016-06-03 00:31:27] BitMEX_Wally : Alex Gerko was a good hire. They spun out into XTX Markers
[2016-06-03 00:31:29] sleger : for instance
[2016-06-03 00:31:35] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah
[2016-06-03 00:31:39] sleger : ah i beat you to it by seconds
[2016-06-03 00:32:07] BitMEX_Wally : I saw him last month and Phil Howson's leaving drinks
[2016-06-03 00:32:15] BitMEX_Wally : *at
[2016-06-03 00:32:42] sleger : i almost worked with him at DB, but refused the offer
[2016-06-03 00:39:31] BitMEX_Wally : After GSA hired Gerko and his team en-masse we all learnt Russian swear words
[2016-06-03 00:39:46] BitMEX_Wally : especially when the market was moving or connectivity lagging
[2016-06-03 00:40:15] sleger : yes DB had a large russian IT team
[2016-06-03 00:43:36] Mr Blue : Night guys happy trading
[2016-06-03 01:00:12] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: on a scale from 1 to what drugs did to amy winehouse, how painful was that off-chat discussion ?
[2016-06-03 01:45:14] Johnster : perpetual swap on tradingview yet? Is it down to 50x?
[2016-06-03 01:47:15] BitMEX_Wally : Temporarily at 50x we will put it back to 100x if the market stays calm
[2016-06-03 01:48:09] Johnster : Tradingview?
[2016-06-03 01:48:25] BitMEX_Wally : Please email support@tradingview.com and ask them to add our swaps
[2016-06-03 01:48:46] Johnster : cross is still fixed 25x?
[2016-06-03 01:49:41] Johnster : mail send
[2016-06-03 01:50:44] BitMEX_Wally : Cross margin is effectively 50x but topped up whenever it moves against you
[2016-06-03 01:51:05] BitMEX_Wally : So it uses your whole excess margin to keep the liquidiation price as far away as possible
[2016-06-03 01:51:35] BitMEX_Wally : Johnster: Thanks, if enough people ask they'll sort it out :)
[2016-06-03 01:53:08] Johnster : hmmm, wasn't corss 50x?
[2016-06-03 01:53:25] Johnster : 25x I mean
[2016-06-03 02:08:15] BitMEX_Wally : Cross has always been just the initial margin (I.e highest leverage) and then topped up
[2016-06-03 02:08:35] BitMEX_Wally : For XBTU16 etc the highest leverage is still 25x
[2016-06-03 02:17:34] Johnster : Thanks wally. Nice. All I need is being able to chart it on TV...
[2016-06-03 02:24:32] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hello, is it possible to return 100x so liq. price to be higher and insert an order block when someone triggers an 100x order and will auto liquidate him self, the system to inform him that a lower leveraged order should be placed.
[2016-06-03 02:59:52] BitMEX_Wally : We already reject orders that will result in a position less than 10% of the maintenance margin away from liquidation (i.e 0.05% for XBTUSD)
[2016-06-03 03:00:48] BitMEX_Wally : We will bring back 100x soon
[2016-06-03 03:54:41] donchard : BitMEX_Wally: helo is my swap interest on witheld profit
[2016-06-03 04:01:44] BitMEX_Wally : donchard: Not withheld
[2016-06-03 04:02:26] donchard : were can i see it @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-03 04:04:39] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-06-03 04:05:10] BitMEX_Wally : It has an Exec Type of 'Funding', a negative fee amount means it was paid to you
[2016-06-03 04:05:45] donchard : olay
[2016-06-03 04:06:32] donchard : so it will be imbalanced 8 hours
[2016-06-03 04:08:31] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalance is in 8 hours but the funding payments affect your excess margin immediately and are not withheld
[2016-06-03 04:31:12] coin : Hello Wally, are the XBTUSD funding payments included in realized PNL?
[2016-06-03 04:32:19] coin : or is that the rebalancing exclusively?
[2016-06-03 04:34:34] BitMEX_Arthur : coin: Yes that is realised pnl
[2016-06-03 04:35:19] coin : Including funding payments you mean?
[2016-06-03 04:36:57] zanza : the 50x BTC gunna hit 2mil open interest soon
[2016-06-03 04:37:32] zanza : which would be 3700 XBT
[2016-06-03 04:38:45] BitMEX_Arthur : coin: Yes realised pnl includes funding payments
[2016-06-03 04:38:54] coin : Thanks
[2016-06-03 04:39:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How can the open interest be greater than the 24 hour volume?
[2016-06-03 04:41:11] coin : And the rebalancing of today is based on yesterday
[2016-06-03 04:41:30] coin : yesterday's mark price?
[2016-06-03 04:41:42] coin : at the time of the last rebalance ?
[2016-06-03 04:41:58] coin : The payment that we get today.
[2016-06-03 04:42:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : coin: the mark price is not related to the funding payments
[2016-06-03 04:42:36] coin : I know I'm not talking about that anymore
[2016-06-03 04:42:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : coin: here is info on the mark price https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-06-03 04:43:39] coin : Yes but today at re balancing the payment of tomorrow will be determined right?
[2016-06-03 04:44:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : coin: when you say payment do you mean funding payment, or addition of unrealised PNL to your balance?
[2016-06-03 04:45:40] coin : additionan of unrealised PNL
[2016-06-03 04:45:56] coin : CashRebalance transaction
[2016-06-03 04:47:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : At rebalance, unrealised PNL is added to your balance
[2016-06-03 04:48:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : that unrealised PNL is based on the mark price
[2016-06-03 04:48:08] coin : yes but then the system will show me at transaction history what I will get tomorrow right
[2016-06-03 04:48:50] coin : based on today's mark price at re-balance
[2016-06-03 04:49:01] BitMEX_Arthur : You will see an addition to your transaction history for rebalance
[2016-06-03 04:49:03] BitMEX_Arthur : which happens at the mark price
[2016-06-03 04:49:15] BitMEX_Arthur : the funding you pay is based on the value of your position using the mark price
[2016-06-03 04:49:18] BitMEX_Arthur : at the time funding is charged
[2016-06-03 04:49:19] coin : yes but it will be paid out tomorrow
[2016-06-03 04:49:25] coin : the re-balance
[2016-06-03 04:49:27] coin : or subtracted
[2016-06-03 04:49:38] coin : It says pending
[2016-06-03 04:50:07] coin : but why does this not happen instantaneous? Why do I get paid yesterday's re-balance today?
[2016-06-03 04:50:55] coin : why it says Pending?
[2016-06-03 04:51:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes it is pending until today at 12 GMT
[2016-06-03 04:51:37] coin : but it does seem to influence my wallet balance?
[2016-06-03 04:53:20] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes it will, if it is unrealised loss then you will be able to trade and withdraw less
[2016-06-03 04:53:38] BitMEX_Wally : Realised PNL affects your wallet balance immediate and is shown as a pending rebalance
[2016-06-03 04:53:55] BitMEX_Wally : the thing that changes after a rebalance is that withheld profit goes to 0
[2016-06-03 04:54:33] coin : but why keep it till 12 GMT? why not just instantly either pay out or subtract?
[2016-06-03 04:54:45] coin : at 12 GMT same day
[2016-06-03 04:55:06] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-06-03 04:55:25] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read that, we need to hold pnl in case there is a profit adjustment
[2016-06-03 04:55:44] coin : ok thanks I'll read through
[2016-06-03 04:55:46] coin : it
[2016-06-03 04:55:53] coin : thanks for the quick replies
[2016-06-03 04:56:56] coin : You guys should also have the option to upload some sort of identification docs in case for some reason someone needs to prove ownership of their account
[2016-06-03 04:58:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : coin: why would bitmex want to be responsible for securing users' identification documents?
[2016-06-03 04:58:56] BitMEX_Arthur : coin: We advise you to make use of Clef
[2016-06-03 05:01:04] coin : I would feel more comfortable if I knew you guys knew who I was.
[2016-06-03 05:05:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : coin: first time I've ever heard that in the bitcoin community, but to each his own I guess
[2016-06-03 05:09:55] elmorte : Damn, guess not everyone's a drug dealer
[2016-06-03 05:11:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : elmorte: lol you don't have to be a drug dealer to value privacy
[2016-06-03 05:12:18] elmorte : Hehe, I know Jihadi John ;)
[2016-06-03 05:12:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : elmorte: haha whatever you say
[2016-06-03 07:46:01] Mr Blue : We don't need no tramp up a mountain telling us how to operate lol, morning guys
[2016-06-03 07:46:57] asdfman : @Mr Blue Good morning.
[2016-06-03 07:48:33] Mr Blue : Thanks @asdfman
[2016-06-03 07:48:53] Mr Blue : asdfman: hopefully nice profits again today sir
[2016-06-03 07:51:09] Mr Blue : Waiting on a dip to get in my self, $6 over spot price seems crazy, with it was that last night, but seemed to be stuck at only $3 over spot yesterday
[2016-06-03 07:52:22] Mr Blue : Wish it was last night** over by 6 but I still made nice profits
[2016-06-03 07:53:20] Mr Blue : In fact to be fair think it went $5 over spot price last night
[2016-06-03 07:57:18] Mr Blue : Buzzing just found an 8th of Amnesia Haze in my safe I totally forgot I had lol
[2016-06-03 07:57:45] wingman : how to i set a stop limit selling my long?
[2016-06-03 07:57:51] wingman : the interface is very confuse
[2016-06-03 07:58:27] Mr Blue : wingman: right of the screen, click on the tab that says market
[2016-06-03 07:58:48] Mr Blue : Sorry left hand side I mean
[2016-06-03 07:59:05] wingman : yes, i have a long, i want to set a take profit which is ok, i can do it
[2016-06-03 07:59:12] wingman : but the stop loss if goes against me, i can't
[2016-06-03 07:59:34] wingman : closed 2 positions already loosing 0.02 btc already just trying to put a stop loss
[2016-06-03 08:00:10] wingman : the sell button is disabled when i try to set a limit sell
[2016-06-03 08:00:14] wingman : or stop loss*
[2016-06-03 08:00:14] rapidtrades : wingman: use stop limit
[2016-06-03 08:00:37] wingman : sell button disabled?
[2016-06-03 08:01:03] rapidtrades : did u pick stop limit
[2016-06-03 08:01:07] wingman : yes
[2016-06-03 08:01:54] rapidtrades : then ur right
[2016-06-03 08:02:03] rapidtrades : not sure why it can't work tbh
[2016-06-03 08:02:27] wingman : can't keep limit price and stop price at the same price?
[2016-06-03 08:02:35] wingman : for setting a stop limit
[2016-06-03 08:02:39] Mr Blue : wingman: not used the feature yet my self, but I assume you put in the price you want on both limit price and stop price, you have contracts to get a stop for already?
[2016-06-03 08:03:02] wingman : i had
[2016-06-03 08:03:15] wingman : not anymore, as i said i closed twice positions trying to set it
[2016-06-03 08:03:22] wingman : miss the train
[2016-06-03 08:03:23] wingman : =/
[2016-06-03 08:03:34] Mr Blue : wingman: well I don't think you can set a stop loss when your not holding contracts
[2016-06-03 08:03:53] wingman : of course not, i was trying when i had contracts opened
[2016-06-03 08:04:48] Mr Blue : wingman: cool, should work when you have a position, maybe try messaging support mate, sorry I couldn't help more
[2016-06-03 08:05:12] wingman : alright thanks anyway
[2016-06-03 08:05:54] Mr Blue : $7 over spot price?? Come on guys your killing me lol waiting to jump in again here
[2016-06-03 08:07:56] rapidtrades : wingman: stop limit works
[2016-06-03 08:08:19] Mr Blue : wingman: also possible your stop loss was lower than liquidation price? ? Was you doing a x35 or anything?
[2016-06-03 08:08:21] rapidtrades : or u can use stop market
[2016-06-03 08:08:27] rapidtrades : if ur trading small
[2016-06-03 08:08:55] rapidtrades : try them with 1 contract
[2016-06-03 08:09:44] asdfman : Don't think it has any legs
[2016-06-03 08:10:15] rapidtrades : oh it has legs buddy
[2016-06-03 08:11:03] asdfman : to pass yesterdays 544 at finex?
[2016-06-03 08:11:14] asdfman : last nights*
[2016-06-03 08:12:33] rapidtrades : here comes the brak of 550
[2016-06-03 08:13:02] asdfman : woop there it is
[2016-06-03 08:13:09] asdfman : shit..
[2016-06-03 08:13:22] supermine : Woop Wooop
[2016-06-03 08:13:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 544.32
[2016-06-03 08:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9 @ 546.24
[2016-06-03 08:14:55] Mr Blue : Fuck you guys I'm stuck out of the action lol, but I guess holding in BTC means I'm seeing gains anyways, just not gaining more BTC ?
[2016-06-03 08:15:33] asdfman : same. contemplated going in @42 but yeh..
[2016-06-03 08:16:15] Mr Blue : Gently cares = f*ck
[2016-06-03 08:16:21] asdfman : lol
[2016-06-03 08:17:32] BitMEX_Jinming : wingman: Stop order is triggered by `Mark Price`, for `Sell Stop` the `Stop Price` has to be lower than `Mark Price`
[2016-06-03 08:17:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 101500 @ 548.05 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-06-03 08:17:53] asdfman : ouch
[2016-06-03 08:18:00] supermine : LoL
[2016-06-03 08:18:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 45480 @ 548.74 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-03 08:18:31] rapidtrades : stop going short u twats
[2016-06-03 08:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 600 @ 0.02510
[2016-06-03 08:20:32] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon:
[2016-06-03 08:20:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 552.54
[2016-06-03 08:21:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 63705 @ 553.44 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-03 08:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 950 @ 0.02482
[2016-06-03 08:23:15] Mr Blue : Mother f I just missed out on like $1000 profit, should of got in as soon as I woke up... somebody some chuck a brick in my face lol
[2016-06-03 08:23:31] Mr Blue : Come chuck*
[2016-06-03 08:23:55] ggwp : not a good mindset to have, man
[2016-06-03 08:26:44] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: that's the price u pay for trying to be clever
[2016-06-03 08:27:45] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: true lol but I had my range an stuck with it lol, never mind you win some you don't play some lol
[2016-06-03 08:28:29] Mr Blue : Haha ye that time was way too many like I'll admit ?
[2016-06-03 08:28:30] supermine : Ha. made it into the ROE leaderboard, now look at that
[2016-06-03 08:29:13] asdfman : where can I see that?
[2016-06-03 08:30:25] Mr Blue : Too many Lol's **
[2016-06-03 08:30:59] asdfman : :P
[2016-06-03 08:31:45] asdfman : sure had leg >_<
[2016-06-03 08:33:16] asdfman : thats one long third leg on finex@30m
[2016-06-03 08:33:41] asdfman : with a solid set of stones
[2016-06-03 08:34:14] BitMEX_Wally : wingman: A stop order is triggered when the price moves against you. If you are long and want to take profit then just submit a Limit order to sell
[2016-06-03 08:48:22] rapidtrades : no fomo?
[2016-06-03 08:48:31] rapidtrades : FOMOOO?
[2016-06-03 08:49:29] Mr Blue : ?
[2016-06-03 08:49:34] ggwp : full retrace incoming
[2016-06-03 08:49:43] ggwp : :D
[2016-06-03 08:58:37] asdfman : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4mb4ks/daily_discussion_friday_june_03_2016/d3u8iwr
[2016-06-03 08:58:54] asdfman : this is interresting
[2016-06-03 09:00:19] micmix : love triangle traders :smile:
[2016-06-03 09:02:39] asdfman : patterns patterns everywhere :P
[2016-06-03 09:09:27] rapidtrades : is anyone else algging like crazy right now
[2016-06-03 09:11:41] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-06-03 09:11:57] wurstgelee : i didnt buy my internet at walmart tho
[2016-06-03 09:12:04] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Jinming: you're new? Hi!
[2016-06-03 09:14:40] rapidtrades : u know i kinda understand why bitmex doesn't offer desktop platforms....
[2016-06-03 09:15:10] rapidtrades : but its a disgrace that we're still using web interface to trade on okc or finex
[2016-06-03 09:16:09] rapidtrades : i think leasing mt4 costs smth like 100k
[2016-06-03 09:21:18] rapidtrades : getting a license not leasing :)
[2016-06-03 09:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 554.25
[2016-06-03 09:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1255 @ 554.23
[2016-06-03 09:28:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 555.32
[2016-06-03 09:46:06] murali : Please don't, mt4 sucks. Just logging in for saying this.
[2016-06-03 10:22:23] asdfman : 5m wants up, 15-30-1h wants down
[2016-06-03 10:42:34] Mr Blue : I think ok coin is pumping but coin Desk has gone down lol can anybody confirm
[2016-06-03 10:43:34] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: https://www.okcoin.com/marketList.do
[2016-06-03 10:43:53] rapidtrades : well u know which part to replace :)
[2016-06-03 10:46:49] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: thanks mate, I've got a real time chart up for it now anyways but I'll check it out
[2016-06-03 10:56:48] asdfman : there it is
[2016-06-03 10:58:59] asdfman : now that, I don't wanna do again; shorted @558.38
[2016-06-03 10:59:06] asdfman : -,
[2016-06-03 10:59:20] elmorte : If you have a bunch of USD sitting on finex right now....what would you do to take best advantage of the situation?
[2016-06-03 11:08:08] Mr Blue : elmorte: hard one, looks like it will go to $560 sooner rather than later, but the fiñex market looks to be a dirty fight between buy and sell for 560 compared to ItBit or Okcoin
[2016-06-03 11:09:31] elmorte : *sigh*
[2016-06-03 11:10:08] elmorte : Still can't believe I panic-sold at 530....partly coz I don't remember it
[2016-06-03 11:10:37] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-06-03 11:10:56] elmorte : absolutely no recollection
[2016-06-03 11:11:42] Mr Blue : elmorte: lol I like to keep as much as possible in Bitcoin, I consider Bitcoin gains profit, Fiat gains on my Bitcoin are nice, but I really need to build up big stash of BTC
[2016-06-03 11:12:11] elmorte : Yeah, I have them spread out all around..just don't know why I sold the finex stash
[2016-06-03 11:12:38] Mr Blue : elmorte: cool
[2016-06-03 11:31:00] vbmithr : Hi
[2016-06-03 11:31:33] vbmithr : If there are bitsouk.com users amongst you, now the server is hosted at the same datacenter as bitmex, so < 1ms latency :)
[2016-06-03 11:33:33] vbmithr : rapidtrades?
[2016-06-03 11:33:47] vbmithr : Use Sierra Chart!
[2016-06-03 11:34:08] vbmithr : (rapidtrades): but its a disgrace that we're still using web interface to trade on okc or finex
[2016-06-03 11:34:22] vbmithr : You can use Sierra Chart to trade on BitMEX
[2016-06-03 11:34:26] vbmithr : it's better than MT4 :)
[2016-06-03 11:38:48] vbmithr : You can trade of bitfinex with it soon too :) Just finished coding this.
[2016-06-03 11:48:35] rapidtrades : vbmithr: how is sierra better
[2016-06-03 11:48:58] rapidtrades : dude i can run several mt4s on my shitty laptop with no lag
[2016-06-03 11:49:24] rapidtrades : plus there's tons of indicators, EAs and scripts already available
[2016-06-03 11:50:30] rapidtrades : find me charts that are easier to use
[2016-06-03 11:51:00] rapidtrades : u can flick through different timeframes with no lag, it happens almost instantly...u can change instruments instatnly
[2016-06-03 11:51:10] rapidtrades : the platform is incredibly fast
[2016-06-03 11:53:18] rapidtrades : i've tried web based charts, java based charts, tried IB, TOS etc....nothing comes close to it in terms of speed
[2016-06-03 12:06:49] vbmithr : try it
[2016-06-03 12:07:00] vbmithr : Actually I don't know if it's better
[2016-06-03 12:07:05] jesperf : what's the catch with mt4? is it really free?
[2016-06-03 12:07:32] vbmithr : I think it's very similar to MT4
[2016-06-03 12:07:48] vbmithr : But if you want to trade on BitMEX with a software then only Sierra Chart is available for now
[2016-06-03 12:08:22] vbmithr : I supported Sierra Chart because it offers an open API to integrate trading services with it
[2016-06-03 12:08:45] vbmithr : But in terms of speed I think SC is excellent, probably as good or better as MT4
[2016-06-03 12:09:02] vbmithr : MT4 probably fast enough so that "faster" has no point anyway
[2016-06-03 12:09:27] dorothy490 : vbmithr: SC has tonns of options which is overcomplicated
[2016-06-03 12:09:38] vbmithr : rapidtrades: But I would be very happy to have your feedback on Sierra Chart @ BitMEX, as a user of MT4 with experience trading elsewhere
[2016-06-03 12:09:50] vbmithr : dorothy: You don't need to use them
[2016-06-03 12:09:56] vbmithr : It's not that complicated actually
[2016-06-03 12:09:57] dorothy490 : I want conditional orders
[2016-06-03 12:10:07] vbmithr : Yeah there is this of course
[2016-06-03 12:10:14] vbmithr : "attached orders" on the trading window
[2016-06-03 12:10:14] dorothy490 : stop loss and take profit at the same time
[2016-06-03 12:10:20] vbmithr : yeah
[2016-06-03 12:10:24] vbmithr : I support this.
[2016-06-03 12:10:30] dorothy490 : is it possibl eto have in SC?
[2016-06-03 12:10:34] vbmithr : yes
[2016-06-03 12:10:41] vbmithr : Available right now.
[2016-06-03 12:10:44] dorothy490 : can you shouw me how?
[2016-06-03 12:10:54] vbmithr : bitsouk.com
[2016-06-03 12:11:11] vbmithr : create an account there, put your bitmex api key, use sierra chart entry "bitsouk"
[2016-06-03 12:11:22] dorothy490 : yes I did
[2016-06-03 12:11:30] vbmithr : ok then
[2016-06-03 12:11:34] vbmithr : on the trading window
[2016-06-03 12:12:12] vbmithr : Trade > Attach trade window to chart
[2016-06-03 12:12:23] dorothy490 : ok
[2016-06-03 12:12:25] vbmithr : click attached orders
[2016-06-03 12:12:38] vbmithr : in tab Target
[2016-06-03 12:12:45] vbmithr : that's where you put your target and limit
[2016-06-03 12:13:13] vbmithr : you can select the offset in tick for the trigger
[2016-06-03 12:13:30] vbmithr : and when then, when you add an order
[2016-06-03 12:13:33] dorothy490 : so it will not actually create orders on bitmex but rather checking like very second if conditions are met?
[2016-06-03 12:13:42] vbmithr : no, it does
[2016-06-03 12:13:49] vbmithr : bitmex handles this on the API
[2016-06-03 12:13:59] vbmithr : It sets the main order as the trigger for the two others
[2016-06-03 12:14:19] vbmithr : and the 2 others are in an OCO group, meaning that they cancel themselves
[2016-06-03 12:14:23] vbmithr : if one is filled
[2016-06-03 12:14:37] vbmithr : So basically, the contingent orders only activates if the main is filled
[2016-06-03 12:15:06] vbmithr : and only one of the 2 contingent orders will fill
[2016-06-03 12:15:22] vbmithr : that's called "bracket orders" sometimes
[2016-06-03 12:15:27] vbmithr : well Sierra Chart call them that
[2016-06-03 12:15:36] dorothy490 : can I setup orders like buy 500 sell 550 (full margin) and then sell 550 right after I sold my long again?
[2016-06-03 12:15:41] jebus9 : i cant cancel a withdraw after its been confirmed?
[2016-06-03 12:15:41] jebus9 : that sucks.
[2016-06-03 12:16:00] vbmithr : Doc here: http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_AttachedOrders.html
[2016-06-03 12:16:14] BitMEX_Wally : jebus9: We are working on improving this. In the mean time just email support@bitmex.com and we will cancel it for you
[2016-06-03 12:16:27] jebus9 : <3
[2016-06-03 12:17:23] vbmithr : mmh
[2016-06-03 12:17:37] vbmithr : Probably :)
[2016-06-03 12:17:47] vbmithr : You can do 2 things, basically
[2016-06-03 12:18:02] vbmithr : you can use "OCO" orders that will make than only one on two orders will activate
[2016-06-03 12:18:31] vbmithr : and you can do "OTO" orders to have one trigger the other
[2016-06-03 12:18:59] vbmithr : With BitMEX API you can clearly do all kind of complicated combinations, but you have to code it
[2016-06-03 12:19:19] vbmithr : With Sierra Chart, I'm not sure
[2016-06-03 12:19:24] vbmithr : I only tested OCO orders
[2016-06-03 12:19:45] vbmithr : And those "bracket" : One order that if executed, will trigger two orders (stop / take profit) in an OCO group
[2016-06-03 12:20:38] vbmithr : can I setup orders like buy 500 sell 550 (full margin) and then sell 550 right after I sold my long again: if you explain in more details, maybe I can answer precisely
[2016-06-03 12:20:45] vbmithr : I don't understand exactly this
[2016-06-03 12:23:43] BitMEX_Wally : If you went long 1000 contracts at 500 you could then manually submit an order to sell 2000 at 550
[2016-06-03 12:23:53] BitMEX_Wally : That would reverse the position without any need for trigger orders
[2016-06-03 12:25:03] vbmithr : Ahh ok
[2016-06-03 12:25:09] vbmithr : You meant this.
[2016-06-03 12:26:20] vbmithr : So yes you can
[2016-06-03 12:26:23] jebus9 : that was quick, thanks guys
[2016-06-03 12:26:32] BitMEX_Wally : jebus9: Thanks for the email, that withdrawal has been canceled
[2016-06-03 12:26:36] BitMEX_Wally : Hah, snap
[2016-06-03 12:26:49] jebus9 : Winner winne.
[2016-06-03 12:26:53] jebus9 : winner*
[2016-06-03 12:31:06] wurstgelee : 30 mins left until withdrawals are processed, right?
[2016-06-03 12:36:18] jebus9 : ya
[2016-06-03 12:48:01] rapidtrades : jesperf: yes mt4 is free, provided by ur brokers
[2016-06-03 12:48:29] rapidtrades : only btc-e has it for bitcoin afaik
[2016-06-03 12:48:53] rapidtrades : previously ava had it but after gox went busto they stopped trading btc
[2016-06-03 13:27:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 557.25 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-03 13:27:43] vbmithr : :whale: lol
[2016-06-03 13:37:07] daveberns1 : Did someone say there is a leaderboard?
[2016-06-03 13:37:13] daveberns1 : Curious how I rank
[2016-06-03 13:37:53] sleger : click on help
[2016-06-03 13:42:15] daveberns1 : Ahh looks like it likely shows an alias
[2016-06-03 13:42:33] sleger : the row you are is highlighted in yellow
[2016-06-03 13:42:37] sleger : assuming you're in it
[2016-06-03 13:43:26] daveberns1 : Interesting, how goes it sleger?
[2016-06-03 13:46:07] tscha : btw, in mobile, the yellow highlight is missing on the leaderboard
[2016-06-03 13:46:12] tscha : on* mobile
[2016-06-03 13:46:35] rapidtrades : oh no
[2016-06-03 13:46:52] daveberns1 : Seems the consensus is to remain anonymous
[2016-06-03 13:46:58] daveberns1 : Not surprising
[2016-06-03 13:48:25] arbitrage001 : you can see me there
[2016-06-03 13:48:32] arbitrage001 : slowly being booted off
[2016-06-03 13:51:23] sleger : seems that #2 went from 370 to 500 between yesterday and today
[2016-06-03 13:51:39] sleger : #1 hasnt been trading for a while as far as i remember
[2016-06-03 13:56:32] arbitrage001 : 130 btc is a year worth of salary for many
[2016-06-03 13:56:46] rapidtrades : sharp reversal in dollar today
[2016-06-03 13:57:50] rapidtrades : usd/cnh down too..
[2016-06-03 14:03:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 45 @ 0.00175
[2016-06-03 14:09:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `LSKXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.000679
[2016-06-03 14:14:00] hashman : after rebalance, the entry price on a position is not updated to the price at that time
[2016-06-03 14:15:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 270 @ 0.00860
[2016-06-03 14:20:44] BitMEX_Greg : vbmithr: Do you trade a lot with MT4 for other assets?
[2016-06-03 14:23:43] justinlooking : tscha! pm me plz dude
[2016-06-03 14:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 335 @ 560.19
[2016-06-03 14:29:34] wurstgelee : hashman: hover the entryprice to see last rebalance price
[2016-06-03 14:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.02439
[2016-06-03 14:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 8 @ 0.02435
[2016-06-03 14:36:21] nip : when do we go back to 100x leverage?
[2016-06-03 14:36:45] rapidtrades : u guys have a death wise?
[2016-06-03 14:36:57] rapidtrades : what's with all these 100/1 requests?
[2016-06-03 14:37:22] ggwp : ;)
[2016-06-03 14:40:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 89209 @ 563.74 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-06-03 14:43:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8930 @ 565.07
[2016-06-03 14:43:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 209 @ 565.48
[2016-06-03 14:45:47] sleger : premium kinda small
[2016-06-03 14:46:25] 24hourz : ????
[2016-06-03 14:46:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.02385
[2016-06-03 14:51:15] BitMEX_Wally : `.USDBON` rate still only 0.09% or so
[2016-06-03 14:51:34] rapidtrades : what's with the samll premium
[2016-06-03 14:53:08] BitMEX_Wally : Market makers feel more comfortable shorting with the move to 8 hour funding
[2016-06-03 14:53:34] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2016-06-03 14:53:38] rentchev : also no China premium on this move
[2016-06-03 14:54:15] rapidtrades : not moving my ask, come and fill it b1tches
[2016-06-03 14:57:06] Mr Blue : REKT: $580 next target?
[2016-06-03 14:57:27] rapidtrades : you know REKT's a bot right
[2016-06-03 14:58:07] rapidtrades : he can't talk yet :)
[2016-06-03 15:00:17] ggwp : :O
[2016-06-03 15:00:21] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: I had guesses he was a bot, clicked his name by accident, was a general question, I notice ok coin ex has no real resistance to $580
[2016-06-03 15:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LSKXBT`: Buy 419 @ 0.000713
[2016-06-03 15:02:37] rapidtrades : this is yearly high in USD right?
[2016-06-03 15:03:14] rapidtrades : i think chinas falling behind cos dollar got spanked today
[2016-06-03 15:04:40] Mr Blue : Cool
[2016-06-03 15:04:40] rapidtrades : usd/cnh down half percent
[2016-06-03 15:39:13] rapidtrades : did they segregate bitcoin and shitcoin insurance funds?
[2016-06-03 15:56:51] 24hourz : I'm actually curious about the dog insurance if it is segregated between coins
[2016-06-03 16:05:07] j8 : is it really necessary to insure your dog
[2016-06-03 16:08:16] vbmithr : Greg: I don't trade with MT4 at all.
[2016-06-03 16:10:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 13701 @ 566.44
[2016-06-03 16:10:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 82 @ 566.60
[2016-06-03 16:11:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 567.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-03 16:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 350 @ 0.02368
[2016-06-03 16:11:48] 24hourz : Fomo
[2016-06-03 16:12:04] tscha : Cream-White-Ox is long hard, just follow his strategy :P
[2016-06-03 16:15:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1300 @ 0.02342
[2016-06-03 16:29:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1200 @ 573.70
[2016-06-03 16:31:36] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: was my withdrawal included in the daily batch?
[2016-06-03 16:31:54] BitMEX_Wally : If it was requested and confirmed before 13:00 UTC it was
[2016-06-03 16:31:59] sleger : tscha: must suck to have sold all your coins just before the big rally...
[2016-06-03 16:32:10] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: is there a way you could check?
[2016-06-03 16:32:45] tscha : sleger: not really, because it was the right decision with the information I had.
[2016-06-03 16:32:49] zanza : Did I miss another break out?
[2016-06-03 16:32:52] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: You could check your self
[2016-06-03 16:33:01] zanza : rofl
[2016-06-03 16:33:12] sleger : tscha: well I meant a posteriori, not saying anyone can predict such big move like that
[2016-06-03 16:33:21] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: I see a withdrawal requested at 13:12:42 UTC and confirmed at 13:41:11 UTC. You were sent emails for both these events
[2016-06-03 16:33:44] sleger : yes but is 13:41 UTC before 13 UTC is the whole question...
[2016-06-03 16:33:56] BitMEX_Wally : Correction *13:14:11 UTC
[2016-06-03 16:34:09] sleger : ah that changes everything
[2016-06-03 16:34:25] ggwp : so it's gonna go out tomorrow?
[2016-06-03 16:34:50] sleger : if 13:14UTC is before 13UTC tomorrow then yes
[2016-06-03 16:35:04] zanza : damn rekt
[2016-06-03 16:35:18] ggwp : :)
[2016-06-03 16:35:31] ggwp : any way I could cancel it
[2016-06-03 16:35:50] rapidtrades : why would u wanna cancel it
[2016-06-03 16:35:53] zanza : probably, email their support ggwp
[2016-06-03 16:36:48] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Yes just email support@bitmex.com and we will cancel it for you
[2016-06-03 16:37:02] rapidtrades : only $2 premium for china....niceeeeee
[2016-06-03 16:37:08] zanza : he doesn't want to exit the casino yet @rapidtrades :)
[2016-06-03 16:37:18] ggwp : alright
[2016-06-03 16:37:34] sleger : rapidtrades: it was even negative by couple of $ at some point
[2016-06-03 16:37:46] rapidtrades : man sry i missed that
[2016-06-03 16:38:14] sleger : i unwind half that trade already
[2016-06-03 16:38:40] rapidtrades : actually we may see more of that considering the usd/cnh is sharly lower today
[2016-06-03 16:40:54] BitMEX_Wally : ggwp: Thanks for the email, that's been canceled
[2016-06-03 16:43:28] ggwp : great
[2016-06-03 16:43:31] ggwp : thanks
[2016-06-03 16:44:26] rapidtrades : don't spend it all in one place!
[2016-06-03 16:44:51] rapidtrades : i just realised how stupid that saying is...
[2016-06-03 16:45:06] rapidtrades : why shouldn't you spent it all in one place?
[2016-06-03 16:45:13] rapidtrades : what if ur in a discount store?
[2016-06-03 16:45:21] BitMEX_Wally : The saying I heard was "Don't spend it all at once"
[2016-06-03 16:45:28] rapidtrades : wait
[2016-06-03 16:45:53] rapidtrades : http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Don%27t+spend+it+all+in+one+place
[2016-06-03 16:46:56] rapidtrades : back to my tangent
[2016-06-03 16:47:19] rapidtrades : what if ice cream is more expensive across the road?
[2016-06-03 16:48:09] rapidtrades : or everything is of great quality in said store
[2016-06-03 16:48:23] rapidtrades : and u still suppose to not spend it all in one place?
[2016-06-03 16:48:52] rapidtrades : what if u had to break a $50? then you HAVE to spend it all in one place
[2016-06-03 16:49:04] rapidtrades : technically
[2016-06-03 16:49:25] zanza : ban rapidtrades again
[2016-06-03 16:49:28] zanza : j/k
[2016-06-03 16:49:34] zanza : hes RAMBLING
[2016-06-03 16:51:23] zanza : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo
[2016-06-03 17:00:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: "peaceful protest" ???
[2016-06-03 17:01:40] rapidtrades : TRIGGERED
[2016-06-03 17:04:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There was no peaceful part
[2016-06-03 17:04:55] rapidtrades : so the left act like retards everywhere, what else is new
[2016-06-03 17:06:29] rapidtrades : can't wait for the debates, its gonna be glorious
[2016-06-03 17:07:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not advocating violence at all, but I'm not sure what people expect for supporting hate speech either
[2016-06-03 17:07:37] Mr Blue : Hope you guys did well on today's increase, I nearly made a full BTC profit, thanks BitMex
[2016-06-03 17:07:43] ggwp : it's gonna be sad
[2016-06-03 17:07:48] ggwp : not glorious
[2016-06-03 17:08:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ggwp: agreed
[2016-06-03 17:08:31] rapidtrades : TRUMP: Crooked Hillary couldn't even keep her man straight, how's she gonna run the country?
[2016-06-03 17:08:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: very nice. .5 BTC here so far
[2016-06-03 17:09:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I would ask if he actually said that but I think I know the answer already. That's fucked up
[2016-06-03 17:09:12] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: grats mate, its been a good day
[2016-06-03 17:09:35] rapidtrades : nah that's hyperbole but he'll go there eventually lol
[2016-06-03 17:09:56] ggwp : fuck
[2016-06-03 17:10:01] ggwp : aha!
[2016-06-03 17:11:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ggwp: haha yeah BitMEX's chat filters are great
[2016-06-03 17:11:19] rapidtrades : what chat filters?
[2016-06-03 17:11:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : f word -> gently caress
[2016-06-03 17:11:41] rapidtrades : i want to ban some words too, like Oxford
[2016-06-03 17:11:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ok coin -> the woodchipper
[2016-06-03 17:11:53] ggwp : okcoin
[2016-06-03 17:11:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : huo bi -> huobi
[2016-06-03 17:12:04] rapidtrades : Ive league
[2016-06-03 17:12:05] ggwp : hehehehe
[2016-06-03 17:12:10] ggwp : shit
[2016-06-03 17:12:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I don't remember if there are more
[2016-06-03 17:12:18] ggwp : huobi
[2016-06-03 17:12:27] ggwp : this is funnier than it should be
[2016-06-03 17:12:53] rapidtrades : its rly not that funny if you're seeing it for months
[2016-06-03 17:13:03] rapidtrades : its a bit annoying tbh
[2016-06-03 17:13:05] ggwp : yeah, I'm fairly new here
[2016-06-03 17:13:20] rapidtrades : type the n-word
[2016-06-03 17:13:39] rapidtrades : do it pussy
[2016-06-03 17:14:02] ggwp : numbskull
[2016-06-03 17:14:05] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-03 17:14:15] sleger : narcomania
[2016-06-03 17:14:18] rapidtrades : no the other one :)
[2016-06-03 17:14:31] ggwp : NIRP
[2016-06-03 17:14:33] ggwp : ?
[2016-06-03 17:14:47] sleger : ohhh the dirty one :
[2016-06-03 17:14:48] sleger : necromania
[2016-06-03 17:15:01] ggwp : necrophilia!
[2016-06-03 17:15:02] rapidtrades : the euphemism for BLACK u retards
[2016-06-03 17:15:14] ggwp : negroid?
[2016-06-03 17:15:24] rapidtrades : close...
[2016-06-03 17:15:39] rapidtrades : that's just ugly cos it didn't get filtered... @ggwp
[2016-06-03 17:15:45] rapidtrades : why would u say that
[2016-06-03 17:15:48] sleger : lol
[2016-06-03 17:15:59] ggwp : hehehe pussy
[2016-06-03 17:17:05] sleger : the R word is not filtered though, maybe because there are too many of those around here. By the way, in a completely unrelated way, what's up with supermine
[2016-06-03 17:17:35] rapidtrades : idk i think he's still making money
[2016-06-03 17:18:00] rapidtrades : unfortunately...but he'll slip up soon hopefully
[2016-06-03 17:19:01] rapidtrades : ggwp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-word
[2016-06-03 17:19:36] ggwp : Nazi?
[2016-06-03 17:19:50] ggwp : but not many of those are black
[2016-06-03 17:19:55] ggwp : I don't get it man
[2016-06-03 17:22:18] rapidtrades : ggwp: u wont get banned
[2016-06-03 17:23:26] ggwp : u must be real bored man
[2016-06-03 17:24:30] rapidtrades : ok nvm
[2016-06-03 17:25:27] rapidtrades : ofc I'm bored, staring at a screen all day
[2016-06-03 17:25:32] blablabla : nigger