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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-06-02 00:36:20] sleger : but mark price should be representative of the market, which currently is not the case with the swap
[2016-06-02 00:36:36] micmix : but we need mid impact price marking
[2016-06-02 00:37:20] sleger : agreed
[2016-06-02 00:37:20] BitMEX_Sam : The real issue is that trading is diverging from mark, which is something we're working to fix
[2016-06-02 00:37:23] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: agree with micmix
[2016-06-02 00:37:42] micmix : I understand that there is a risk of market manipulation but we have enough liquidity and it worked well for XBT24H
[2016-06-02 00:37:45] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: the liquidity is more than enough to have mid impact marking, you even use it for M16
[2016-06-02 00:38:00] supermine : BitMEX_Sam: I noticed Mark is kinda parallel with finex'es price?
[2016-06-02 00:38:10] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, that's what it's based on supermine
[2016-06-02 00:38:20] BitMEX_Sam : Well, an index of exchanges - Kaiko
[2016-06-02 00:38:24] sleger : damn we had a smart discussion for 1 min and dumb question again
[2016-06-02 00:38:28] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-06-02 00:39:02] supermine : Great. Always loved Finex as for being the most reliable ever seen, surving BitCoin24 and Gox and what not. They even had Gox integrated once and survied it without a glitch : )
[2016-06-02 00:39:03] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Let me talk with the guys about it, I know Wally has very good reasons for marking XBTUSD the way he has but I know the whole team has been looking at this as a problem to be fixed
[2016-06-02 00:39:50] supermine : sleger: There is no dumb question. It is the first thing you learn when you shake off your ignorance my friend.
[2016-06-02 00:39:57] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you will not be able to tie the market better to the index, unless you A) offer much less leverage or B) pay very high interest based on the market premium (discount) for short (long) positions
[2016-06-02 00:40:19] lockhedge : B) = B )
[2016-06-02 00:40:38] sleger : supermine: so if I short and the price is lower, do you make money or not ? (pretty much what you asked a few min ago, but no there is no dumb question indeed :D )
[2016-06-02 00:40:54] sleger : lockhedge: yes frequent rebalancing
[2016-06-02 00:41:06] sleger : that will tie the market closer to the index
[2016-06-02 00:41:27] supermine : sleger: Again Doxxing and Citing? Dont you get tired of trolling? Tried with being co-creative for once and see what it will bring out in individuals?
[2016-06-02 00:41:59] sleger : wow, the "dumbnass" is strong in this one
[2016-06-02 00:42:38] lockhedge : sleger: agree, but even more frequent than every 24h? every 8h session?
[2016-06-02 00:43:14] supermine : *shakes head. I fell pity for you. Really. But maybe one day you will understand that hate and ignorance will lead you only into a dead end and people surrounding you. I wish you all the best, really I mean it.
[2016-06-02 00:43:14] sleger : I dont see any problem with very frequent rebalancing (even less than what you mention, hourly) ?
[2016-06-02 00:43:51] sleger : supermine: dont you realize that I only talk to you like that. Ever wondered why ?
[2016-06-02 00:45:20] supermine : sleger: The only thing I wonder is why there is no ignore feature in this otherwise fine chat. Maybe you can call your friend rapidtrades and found another chat so that you just can delectateon your own malbehaviour
[2016-06-02 00:46:06] supermine : sleger: Being an ass and making fun of others speaks volumes about you and gives you "great" Karma.
[2016-06-02 00:46:33] sleger : my previous question was a genuine one, do you see me do that with anyone else right now ?
[2016-06-02 00:46:35] supermine : Didnt you notice that you killed the whole discussion with you hammering me?
[2016-06-02 00:46:57] supermine : You are so agitated that you cant even see how big a troll you are.
[2016-06-02 00:47:05] supermine : Thats just sad.
[2016-06-02 00:47:13] supermine : : ( leaving now
[2016-06-02 02:56:52] ayy_lmao : is only trollbox why u guys hef to be mad
[2016-06-02 04:19:16] zanza : Do not upset our leader rapidtrades please gentlemen
[2016-06-02 06:07:54] BTCDJS : Rapidtrades got banned? Nooo waaayyyy. Seriously though. Who was that guy who just couldn't handle having the troll box on he's screen collapsed. And needed it removed cause he couldn't help himself? Wasn't supermine was it?
[2016-06-02 06:34:27] laisee : troll box is very trollish today
[2016-06-02 06:43:26] daoist : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LSKBTC/PSJdO4Kn-LSK-LONG-TERM-VIEW/
[2016-06-02 07:05:35] davidcor : Im trying to close a position and pops up "Not found"
[2016-06-02 07:16:23] BitMEX_Wally : davidcor: I will investigate. In the mean time please use a normal order to close your position
[2016-06-02 07:16:30] BitMEX_Wally : if you are long just sell, etc
[2016-06-02 07:44:58] Rune : get trolled nerd
[2016-06-02 07:45:41] Rune : daoistlisk has no long term
[2016-06-02 07:45:53] Rune : will be back at ico in 3 weeks
[2016-06-02 07:46:02] davidcor : BitMEX_Wally: thx
[2016-06-02 07:50:58] rullwull : BitMEX_Wally: didn't get how stops work. Have a long position and if i chose stop limit only set buy stop is clickable,, but i need to set up sell stops for long position
[2016-06-02 07:51:27] BitMEX_Wally : You can only click sell if the stopPx is below the current mark price
[2016-06-02 07:51:36] BitMEX_Wally : Otherwise the stop would immediately trigger
[2016-06-02 07:52:29] rullwull : so i can't set up sell stops for long position?
[2016-06-02 07:52:48] BitMEX_Wally : What stop price do you want?
[2016-06-02 07:54:58] rullwull : for example i have an open position at 536,25 and liq price is 524.25, so i wanted to set up several stops between 537-535
[2016-06-02 07:55:35] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price for XBTUSD is currently 535.90 so the stop price would need to be below that
[2016-06-02 07:56:57] rullwull : ok, if i want it at 530, how to do it?
[2016-06-02 07:59:30] rullwull : and why shell i put stops bellow mark price if I sell higher than i bought in order book?
[2016-06-02 08:02:29] BitMEX_Wally : If you want to sell if the mark price drops to 530 then choose "Stop Market" and put 530 as the stop price, then click Set Sell Stop
[2016-06-02 08:03:28] BitMEX_Wally : Because XBTUSD is trading at a $4 premium at the moment your stop would probably get filled at 534
[2016-06-02 08:07:40] rullwull : if i choose stop market same thing, only green button is clickable
[2016-06-02 08:09:25] rullwull : and still doesn't understand how the market price is connected with order book? if the price starts falling i want to set up several sell orders on different price levels and I'm gonna sell these contracts to order book, not on the market
[2016-06-02 08:11:03] BitMEX_Wally : At the moment Stop orders are triggered based on the mark price. We are going to add an option to trigger them based on the last price of the future
[2016-06-02 08:12:44] BitMEX_Wally : In the mean time, make sure the Stop Price is below 535 and you will be able to click "Set Sell Stop"
[2016-06-02 08:13:06] rullwull : ok, now i see
[2016-06-02 08:16:09] rullwull : if i chose in stop limit order stop price 534 and limit price 537, how this order will be implemented? it will trigger if the market price touches 534 or order book? and where my limit order will be placed at 537 in order book?
[2016-06-02 08:21:10] BitMEX_Wally : If you submit a stop limit order to sell with stop price 534 and limit price 537 then if the mark price drops below 534 then a limit order to sell at 537 will be placed in the order book
[2016-06-02 08:21:43] BitMEX_Wally : If XBTUSD is trading at a premium to the mark price then it will be filled, but there is a risk that if the price is dropping quickly that the order will just sit in the order book at 537
[2016-06-02 08:22:01] rullwull : ok, thanks, now its clear
[2016-06-02 08:22:38] BitMEX_Wally : We trigger liquidations based on mark price rather than the last traded price so that no-one can manipulate the market and trigger liquidations
[2016-06-02 08:22:44] BitMEX_Wally : The same idea for stops, so no-one can go stop hunting
[2016-06-02 08:24:14] rullwull : i want to set up several stops, a few stop limits and a few stop markets, than i have a chance to close partially without losses
[2016-06-02 08:24:43] rullwull : ok, understood why you did it this way, its good to avoid manipulations
[2016-06-02 08:27:14] rullwull : would be nice to have an iceberg order as well
[2016-06-02 08:32:43] BitMEX_Wally : rullwull: We support classic iceberg orders (i.e. hidden quantity with a portion visible)
[2016-06-02 08:33:09] BitMEX_Wally : We don't support dark ice algo orders (which is what OKC calls iceberg)
[2016-06-02 08:33:35] BitMEX_Wally : Under 'Advanced Order Options' you can click 'Hidden Order'
[2016-06-02 08:33:49] BitMEX_Wally : Then if you want it to be an iceberg change the display quantity from 0
[2016-06-02 08:33:56] rullwull : ok, i meant like OKC orders, its very convenient tool
[2016-06-02 08:34:11] BitMEX_Wally : We're looking into support it
[2016-06-02 08:34:47] rullwull : good, meantime i'll check a hidden orders. thanks a lot for support
[2016-06-02 08:38:36] rullwull : one more question, how trailing stop market works? in which case i can use them?
[2016-06-02 08:41:45] BitMEX_Wally : So if you set a trailing stop order to sell with a trailing offset of `-5.00` this would create a stop order to sell with a stop price of 531.06
[2016-06-02 08:41:53] BitMEX_Wally : (the current mark price minus 5)
[2016-06-02 08:42:19] BitMEX_Wally : Then if the mark price increased to 540 the stop price would be raised to 535
[2016-06-02 08:42:35] BitMEX_Wally : The stop price would be ratcheted up but never lowered
[2016-06-02 08:42:46] BitMEX_Wally : So you get all the upside, and only a 5 dollar downside
[2016-06-02 08:43:25] BitMEX_Wally : A trailing stop order can be used instead having 2 separate take profit and stop loss orders
[2016-06-02 08:45:00] rullwull : ok, got it. is it possible to change this 5$ difference to another number?
[2016-06-02 09:19:51] Mr Blue : Morning guys
[2016-06-02 09:39:02] BitMEX_Wally : rullwull: You want to change the trailing offset after the order has been submitted?
[2016-06-02 09:39:06] BitMEX_Wally : rullwull: You have to use the API to do that
[2016-06-02 09:43:02] MarketQ : @BitMEX_Wally anyway I can get a slight advance on a Bitcoin withdrawal, does not represent my whole account balance ( a pretty small portion) and its so that I can go to a Bitcoin event. I just need it processed like 1 hour early
[2016-06-02 09:46:03] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: Unfortunately withdrawals require a majority of the partners to sign
[2016-06-02 09:48:52] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: what if one or both of you died mate? Is their a process so the company will live on?
[2016-06-02 09:49:31] BitMEX_Wally : Of course, there are keys in safe deposit boxes with lawyers etc
[2016-06-02 09:50:13] BitMEX_Wally : There are 3 partners so it's 2 of 3 multisig
[2016-06-02 09:51:37] Mr Blue : MarketQ: shouldn't keep all your funds in one place mate, understandably if everybody was asking same thing, company owners wouldn't have enough time on there hands to be doing that all day, sorry to hear about your situation though mate
[2016-06-02 09:52:24] MarketQ : No I keep my stuff in cold storage just its not with me and im in another country and want to go to a Bitcoin event with some bits unlike somebitless noob
[2016-06-02 09:52:40] MarketQ : hehe
[2016-06-02 09:52:42] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: just what I wanted to hear mate, good job with the company, may it last 1000 years
[2016-06-02 09:54:32] Mr Blue : MarketQ: cool mate, any chance of buying some before the event? Circle will let you buy 0.5 BTC quick if you only need a little
[2016-06-02 09:55:09] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: Most Bitcoin events are run by friendly people, show them a confirmed BitMEX withdrawal email saying it will be processed at 13:00 UTC
[2016-06-02 09:57:37] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: can you transfer funds from account to account?? I'll take account funds and send him BTC if possible for users to transfer funds between each other
[2016-06-02 09:58:00] BitMEX_Wally : We only support on blockchain transfers
[2016-06-02 09:58:22] BitMEX_Wally : You cannot use BitMEX to exchange currencies or move value, so we are not a money remitter
[2016-06-02 09:59:13] Mr Blue : Okay @BitMEX_Wally makes sense, I meant his tokens but never mind lol
[2016-06-02 09:59:51] BitMEX_Wally : However, if MarketQ could request and confirm a withdrawal to your deposit address.
[2016-06-02 10:01:21] BitMEX_Wally : Then you could send him Bitcoin in advance of 13:00
[2016-06-02 10:01:41] Mr Blue : Possibly, if you guarantee the deal so funds end up in my account I'd be willing to do that
[2016-06-02 10:01:56] Mr Blue : MarketQ: how much we talking mate?
[2016-06-02 10:02:42] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Yes, I'll guarantee the withdrawal is processed at 13:00 UTC :)
[2016-06-02 10:03:41] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: cool
[2016-06-02 10:04:39] MarketQ : Its ok guys so much work but as You said these are friendly folks and they just told me the Bitcoin portion was optional hopefully by the time its processed most talks will end and when the bill comes ill have bits otherwise dont stress
[2016-06-02 10:05:29] MarketQ : The staf here is realy helpful ill be sure to just write a good review somewhere like this exchange deserves way more volume
[2016-06-02 10:09:23] Mr Blue : MarketQ: okay mate well the options on the table if you like, ye great exchange this is only my 3rd day made 0.1 BTC profit yesterday, now I know what I'm doing here hoping to make 0.9 today
[2016-06-02 10:10:35] Mr Blue : If I make bank here I'll pay it forward and add 10% to some Facebook advertising for the exchange
[2016-06-02 10:11:03] Mr Blue : With my ref still of course lol
[2016-06-02 10:13:40] Mr Blue : I also own the second post down or something like that on cryptocointalk exchange list thread, I'll change it to this exchange or add it to my post when I change, did it originally to support Orbitcoin accepting exchanges
[2016-06-02 10:14:40] Mr Blue : When I cba* not change that was this bloody Google keyboard on my tablet lol
[2016-06-02 10:30:44] Mr Blue : So what you guys thinking? I'm waiting on a little dip before I get in on today's short trade
[2016-06-02 11:51:31] dorothy490 : Mr Blue: go all in
[2016-06-02 12:00:25] BTCDJS : all in short? seems legit
[2016-06-02 12:09:56] dorothy490 : https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/68640392.jpg
[2016-06-02 12:19:21] supermine : haha rebalance is great
[2016-06-02 12:19:29] supermine : made me 1 btc
[2016-06-02 12:33:47] Mr Blue : dorothy490: haha I've been known to
[2016-06-02 12:33:54] Mr Blue : supermine: grats
[2016-06-02 12:34:46] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: I only have a Bitcoin here mate it's cool, but ye I'd only go all in on my own feelings lol
[2016-06-02 12:44:20] BTCDJS : Mr Blue: Cool. Its long here IMO anyways.
[2016-06-02 12:44:57] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: I just got in for 5000 shares only did a x10
[2016-06-02 12:47:20] Mr Blue : Looks to be a hard drop but itBit is holding the line at $536
[2016-06-02 12:48:02] BTCDJS : 1h chart shows nice set up for bullish movement.
[2016-06-02 12:48:31] BTCDJS : fingers crossed
[2016-06-02 12:49:01] Mr Blue : ItBit making a push $537 damn maybe I should of done x25
[2016-06-02 12:50:07] BTCDJS : this is a little risky. so i only put a small amount on for the crack
[2016-06-02 12:50:18] Mr Blue : She itBit dropping lol
[2016-06-02 12:50:38] Mr Blue : Sh**
[2016-06-02 12:51:07] Mr Blue : Lol I'm not worried just the little drop I was waiting for to get in
[2016-06-02 12:54:32] Mr Blue : High chance of a $10 increase, I'm not greedy though I'll take 6 ?
[2016-06-02 12:57:29] BTCDJS : Im predicting move up to 567.11ish from here. Lets see...
[2016-06-02 12:58:08] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: would be nice
[2016-06-02 13:04:39] donkey : question, when mark price is lower than current orders and mark price triggers liquidation on a long position will you get back the excess margin?
[2016-06-02 13:09:02] BitMEX_Wally : donkey: When a position is liquidated any excess margin left over goes into the insurance fund
[2016-06-02 13:10:04] rekt101 : thanks
[2016-06-02 13:10:43] rekt101 : i got rekt again
[2016-06-02 13:10:48] rekt101 : feels good though
[2016-06-02 13:11:58] donkey : BitMEX_Wally: must be nice for the fund ;)
[2016-06-02 13:15:58] Mr Blue : Exchange needs to make money / have insurance some how I guess, if your getting greedy and doing a x50 without watching the market like a bat, I can see it happening, but I'd prob take a loss by selling my position before liquidation my self.
[2016-06-02 13:18:05] donkey : exactly why im asking, i like to gamble but now i know i should put stops before liquidation or manually close them before liquidation :)
[2016-06-02 13:18:26] Mr Blue : donkey: cool +1
[2016-06-02 13:30:09] dorothy490 : donkey: good luck closing your short into market having premium over 1% of the 'market' price
[2016-06-02 13:31:52] sleger : the market price has no premium over the market price
[2016-06-02 13:33:52] NukeLaloosh : aren't bats blind? as in, "blind as a bat"?
[2016-06-02 13:35:27] Mr Blue : NukeLaloosh: true but they have ultrasound and I'm a stoner
[2016-06-02 13:37:37] NukeLaloosh : i think obstetricians have ultrasound. bats use echolocation.
[2016-06-02 13:38:09] NukeLaloosh : but it's easy to confuse the two i'm sure
[2016-06-02 13:38:13] Mr Blue : NukeLaloosh: your correct again I'm stoned lol
[2016-06-02 13:39:48] Mr Blue : Still I just got in at $534 so can't be that stoned ?
[2016-06-02 13:40:12] BTCDJS : potato potaato
[2016-06-02 13:40:35] BTCDJS : bats can still see better without eyes than with them
[2016-06-02 13:41:20] rekt101 : i can get rekt with or without my eyes
[2016-06-02 13:43:45] BTCDJS : when is Rapidtrades coming back? troll box quality has dropped without him
[2016-06-02 13:43:53] Mr Blue : Hmm somebody should go x50 and eat that wall lol
[2016-06-02 13:44:26] Mr Blue : Too late it's gone, market is moving fast
[2016-06-02 13:44:34] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: Can rapid come back to play now?
[2016-06-02 13:45:41] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: ahh ye not seen lady smurf today
[2016-06-02 13:46:03] BitMEX_Wally : He's not been banned.. yet
[2016-06-02 13:46:35] BTCDJS : oh. maybe he's just catching up on some sleep
[2016-06-02 13:46:38] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe rapidtrades and sleger are having a romantic getaway together
[2016-06-02 13:46:48] BTCDJS : or that
[2016-06-02 13:48:12] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: you gotta admit. He's pretty entertaining
[2016-06-02 13:54:34] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: why changes in funding rate frequency?
[2016-06-02 13:55:06] BTCDJS : ^^^^
[2016-06-02 13:55:06] sleger : yes exactly we are plotting how to get rid of the oxfraud liar supermine
[2016-06-02 14:09:08] laisee : supermine = rapidtrades - six months. sleger = sleger.
[2016-06-02 14:11:18] sleger : why change when you're awesome, right ?
[2016-06-02 14:13:08] laisee : sleger += sleger.praise(self)
[2016-06-02 14:16:11] laisee : i only wish we still had the <blink> enabled.
[2016-06-02 14:18:01] BitMEX_Wally : <blink>I wish</blink>
[2016-06-02 14:18:47] BTCDJS : whats the blink?
[2016-06-02 14:19:00] BTCDJS : </blink>
[2016-06-02 14:20:15] laisee : BTCDJS: a tag given to us mortals from the gods.
[2016-06-02 14:20:50] BTCDJS : Have the Gods forsaken us?
[2016-06-02 14:21:21] laisee : but cruelly stolen away by the BitMeX gang
[2016-06-02 14:21:45] laisee : BTCDJS: it made for an entertaining 1/2 day in the troll box b4 BitMEX diabled it
[2016-06-02 14:22:28] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Oxfraud offers online courses from the Department of Continuing Education these days
[2016-06-02 14:22:31] BTCDJS : Can we protest? Is there a petition to sign?
[2016-06-02 14:23:22] sleger : I think we are getting enough cursing and caps-lock-writing with one of those around here
[2016-06-02 14:24:06] sleger : but they carry 0.6m$ open position on this website ... not 600k contracts of swap though, cause that would be huge
[2016-06-02 14:25:25] laisee : BTCDJS: type <blink>bring back the</blink>
[2016-06-02 14:25:48] BTCDJS : <blink>bring back the</blink>
[2016-06-02 14:26:22] laisee : keep typing until it works ....
[2016-06-02 14:27:09] BTCDJS : I can't really advocate for something I have nothing about. But I am curious.
[2016-06-02 14:27:17] BTCDJS : know*
[2016-06-02 14:27:37] BTCDJS : maybe we can have it one day a week?
[2016-06-02 14:31:41] laisee : mondays ... for anyone with a case of same
[2016-06-02 14:32:35] BTCDJS : so what did this tag do exactly?
[2016-06-02 14:37:34] laisee : IT BLINKED in very loud colors. made the UI pretty much unusable.
[2016-06-02 14:38:34] laisee : see a basic example at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/blink#Result_%28toned_down!%29
[2016-06-02 14:39:38] laisee : history here: http://www.montulli.org/theoriginofthe%3Cblink%3Etag
[2016-06-02 14:53:29] BTCDJS : Ha now I understand why it's gone
[2016-06-02 14:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, as fun as it was, it was (surprisingly) hell on performance and really distracting.
[2016-06-02 14:57:53] laisee : BitMEX_Sam: a victim of its own success
[2016-06-02 14:58:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. I've seen animations of any kind really run up the CPU on modern browsers
[2016-06-02 14:58:22] BitMEX_Sam : But blink itself was just abused
[2016-06-02 14:58:38] BitMEX_Sam : You can ofc make it yourself with CSS animations, but thankfully the whole thing has gone out of style.
[2016-06-02 15:00:01] laisee : how abut marquee?
[2016-06-02 15:00:21] BitMEX_Sam : Oh wow, forgot about that.
[2016-06-02 15:00:56] laisee : <marquee>LOL</marquee>
[2016-06-02 16:01:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 36 @ 0.02595
[2016-06-02 16:10:51] Mr Blue : Pump pump pump, it up
[2016-06-02 16:11:56] Mr Blue : Picking back leading the charge, what could it mean ? I don't no ?
[2016-06-02 16:13:55] Mr Blue : Okcoin
[2016-06-02 16:14:19] Mr Blue : Lol damn... China back leading I'll just say lol
[2016-06-02 16:14:55] Mr Blue : Can't say ok coin?
[2016-06-02 16:16:22] Mr Blue : Never mind sorry guys I do rant on lol
[2016-06-02 16:17:23] elmorte : It's ok...elmorte also talks to himself sometimes
[2016-06-02 16:17:42] Mr Blue : elmorte: ?
[2016-06-02 16:20:29] elmorte : Wth did I do last night...cleared out my whole BTC stash on finex @ 530....
[2016-06-02 16:21:41] elmorte : In a single transaction. I thought you're not supposed to panic on xanax...
[2016-06-02 16:21:48] Mr Blue : elmorte: can always buy back in ? but I'd wait for $535
[2016-06-02 16:22:34] elmorte : I'm thinking we're overpriced, guess I wanted to get back in at 500
[2016-06-02 16:23:11] Mr Blue : elmorte: it's possible but more likely to go $600 I'd say
[2016-06-02 16:24:27] elmorte : No doubt eventually, I'm just hoping for a bit of a dip first
[2016-06-02 16:24:52] Mr Blue : But I would say that lol I just grabbed in at 540
[2016-06-02 16:25:39] elmorte : Here? Or spot?
[2016-06-02 16:26:00] Mr Blue : Here
[2016-06-02 16:27:25] elmorte : Planning to hold till 600 or would you cash out earlier?
[2016-06-02 16:28:28] Mr Blue : elmorte: well it's a dirty x35 so looking to cash out 545 or above, keeping my eye on the founded exchange markets
[2016-06-02 16:29:21] Mr Blue : Coin Desk*
[2016-06-02 16:29:49] elmorte : K. I was usually happy with a $2 gain...$4 if I was feeling risque
[2016-06-02 16:30:26] Mr Blue : Makes sense if it's $2 x35 ?
[2016-06-02 16:45:28] zanza : Sept 30 premium is very low!
[2016-06-02 16:46:47] zanza : that orderbook is pretty dead tho
[2016-06-02 16:54:11] Mr Blue : zanza: I might grab some
[2016-06-02 17:23:13] rapidtrades : hey what date was the litecoin halvening last year
[2016-06-02 17:23:36] sleger : he's free !
[2016-06-02 17:25:03] rapidtrades : hey man :)
[2016-06-02 17:26:09] rapidtrades : we have a problem...halvening was 25 july 2015 but we topped out much earlier
[2016-06-02 17:27:23] sleger : what ?
[2016-06-02 17:27:38] sleger : there was no halving for years dude
[2016-06-02 17:27:49] rapidtrades : I'm trying to figure out how early these things get priced in
[2016-06-02 17:28:06] rapidtrades : i said litecoin above
[2016-06-02 17:28:21] sleger : ok sorry
[2016-06-02 17:31:07] sleger : i'd say litecoin might not be very relevant because its concentrated in a few hands and for the most part just following bitcoin price with slight decay
[2016-06-02 17:33:48] rapidtrades : how much of bitcoin halvening is priced in so far? @sleger
[2016-06-02 17:34:28] sleger : i have no idea but i wont be long the few days around unless i have a good reason to
[2016-06-02 17:36:51] sleger : we should ask our new oxfraud genius, mister 0.6 million dollars himself
[2016-06-02 17:38:09] rapidtrades : Oxfraud Semiconductor
[2016-06-02 17:38:43] rapidtrades : i can't believe i got banned because of that guy....
[2016-06-02 17:38:53] rapidtrades : i wasn't even personally attacking anyone
[2016-06-02 17:39:00] sleger : and then he insulted me but did not get banned
[2016-06-02 17:39:39] Mr Blue : Did I miss something?
[2016-06-02 17:40:04] sleger : search supermine in archive
[2016-06-02 17:40:04] rapidtrades : I got banned for taking a shit on the whole country of China like I always go @Mr Blue
[2016-06-02 17:40:14] rapidtrades : do not go
[2016-06-02 17:40:41] BTCDJS : He's back
[2016-06-02 17:40:51] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: never been to China, but I do fancy a trip to Nepal
[2016-06-02 17:41:19] BTCDJS : fuc k em
[2016-06-02 17:41:26] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah i saw that...he's a mean little man
[2016-06-02 17:46:42] BTCDJS : 3rd times a charm. @rapidtrades wasn't supermine the guy who came on ages ago whining on about needing to remove the troll box because he can't help not expanding it?
[2016-06-02 17:48:20] Mr Blue : Lol
[2016-06-02 17:51:52] elmorte : No, that dude's name started with a c
[2016-06-02 17:52:04] Mr Blue : Localbitcoins just hit $600 makes it worth my time meeting somebody in person
[2016-06-02 17:52:17] elmorte : And I saw him back here after that too!
[2016-06-02 17:52:49] elmorte : Umm....where do you live @Mr Blue ?
[2016-06-02 17:53:09] Mr Blue : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/
[2016-06-02 17:54:11] BTCDJS : Oh. Cos he reminds me of him
[2016-06-02 17:54:19] elmorte : LBTC feed is always out of whack
[2016-06-02 17:55:27] Mr Blue : elmorte: I'm not sure I know people pay a premium for meeting in person, but didn't think it was by that much lol
[2016-06-02 17:55:38] elmorte : BTCDJS: he was yellow/orangish colour
[2016-06-02 17:56:02] Mr Blue : Chapo must be buying lol
[2016-06-02 17:56:18] elmorte : Lol
[2016-06-02 17:58:20] elmorte : 5/5 Great buyer, didn't even get decapitated, would trade again
[2016-06-02 17:59:08] Mr Blue : elmorte: lmao, paid in Cocaine but he said it was pure
[2016-06-02 17:59:40] elmorte : Skip the dark web middleman!
[2016-06-02 18:00:00] Mr Blue : elmorte: I bet that guy has a large stash of BTC for sure
[2016-06-02 18:00:46] elmorte : No way, this is gentleman's hobby
[2016-06-02 18:01:29] elmorte : Then again, bitso....
[2016-06-02 18:01:31] Mr Blue : Somebody smarter than me should track down his stack, we can call the documentary finding Le Chapos Bitcoin fortune
[2016-06-02 18:01:47] Mr Blue : His stash*
[2016-06-02 18:02:42] elmorte : I have to go sleep, my wife's giving the look again...
[2016-06-02 18:02:56] elmorte : She doesn't understand
[2016-06-02 18:03:11] sleger : tell her chapos going to come if she doesnt stop
[2016-06-02 18:03:41] elmorte : Heh, that might be counterproductive
[2016-06-02 18:03:48] Mr Blue : He buys his Bitcoins of south American kidnappers via localbitcoins, haha wouldn't shock me, why meet police for the money when you can say, send Bitcoin to this address and we'll release him
[2016-06-02 18:04:57] elmorte : Mr Blue: you're a budding entrepreneur
[2016-06-02 18:05:50] elmorte : All the best in your endeavours! Keep your head...on
[2016-06-02 18:05:50] Mr Blue : I was thinking the same thing when I seen a film about kidnapping, it had a Bitcoin pre-paid phone card in the film, but then they didn't take payment in Bitcoin lol was stupid
[2016-06-02 18:06:15] BTCDJS : elmorte: just give her the back of your hand. Make her understand
[2016-06-02 18:06:39] Mr Blue : Anyone know what that film was called?
[2016-06-02 18:07:04] Mr Blue : Was in cinemas I believe
[2016-06-02 18:07:49] Mr Blue : Wonder who paid for that advertising ?
[2016-06-02 18:12:33] Mr Blue : Ahh it was horrible bosses 2 I think
[2016-06-02 18:15:01] Mr Blue : It's the kind of subliminal messaging I like lmao, get these free range slaves knowing about Bitcoin before they actually do
[2016-06-02 18:57:41] zanza : rapidtrades: where did you get banned from ?
[2016-06-02 18:58:21] BitMEX_Sam : Just from chat here
[2016-06-02 18:58:28] BitMEX_Sam : Admittedly I probably spanked the wrong child
[2016-06-02 18:58:42] BitMEX_Sam : But it was just temporary.
[2016-06-02 18:59:13] zanza : rapidtrades asks for it quite often =]
[2016-06-02 18:59:50] sleger : but that new fraud liar deserves it more
[2016-06-02 19:00:49] BitMEX_Sam : There was a certain amount of entertainment value there that I didn't want to lose just yet
[2016-06-02 19:01:40] sleger : and he does account for half of the NOP in the swap !! but in usd only, not in number of contracts
[2016-06-02 19:01:44] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: really?? That guy?
[2016-06-02 19:01:56] BTCDJS : Entertaining?
[2016-06-02 19:18:38] Mr Blue : What's the deal with this bitbay $999 a Bitcoin? Fraud site or just begging users?
[2016-06-02 19:19:34] Mr Blue : http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitbayUSD_trades.html
[2016-06-02 19:20:07] Mr Blue : Low volume for sure, but hopefully a sign of prices to come lol
[2016-06-02 19:34:06] BitMEX_Sam : Just zero liquidity... might have been washes
[2016-06-02 19:36:45] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: I wouldn't trust it my self, exchange doesn't even have a .com address
[2016-06-02 19:36:57] BitMEX_Sam : That doesn't mean anything, really
[2016-06-02 19:37:04] BitMEX_Sam : But I wouldn't try it either given the liquidity
[2016-06-02 19:37:18] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: true, but looks less professional to me
[2016-06-02 19:37:41] Mr Blue : If they're not .com
[2016-06-02 19:38:14] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: they are good polish exchange, just total lack of liquidity in usd market, much better in pln tho
[2016-06-02 19:39:41] habibi : most innovative one, they offer debit card to account without actual fees when paying, withdrawing money directly to atms.
[2016-06-02 19:40:55] Mr Blue : habibi: circle also offer that I think
[2016-06-02 19:44:33] Mr Blue : ItBit holding the line again $536.52
[2016-06-02 19:45:35] Mr Blue : Just dropped lol, hmm good time to buy I might need to send an extra BTC in
[2016-06-02 19:46:29] rapidtrades : habibi: hey man, welcome back
[2016-06-02 19:47:14] habibi : rapidtrades: evening rapid, how things going?
[2016-06-02 19:49:12] rapidtrades : going ok, how's it goin on ur end
[2016-06-02 19:51:10] habibi : better on okc fut recently, miss the weekend rally due to holiday but still these swings are amazing
[2016-06-02 19:51:48] hedgehog0223 : why cannot i view the xbtusd chart in 1d mode? it only allows up to 6h..
[2016-06-02 19:52:34] BitMEX_Sam : hedgehog0223: Go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences and scroll down to clear browser storage
[2016-06-02 19:52:40] BitMEX_Sam : Refresh and view the homepage again
[2016-06-02 19:53:57] hedgehog0223 : it does not even allow me to click on it. it is in grey
[2016-06-02 19:54:15] BitMEX_Sam : That's just how the button looks.
[2016-06-02 19:54:37] hedgehog0223 : but if i click on it nothing happens
[2016-06-02 19:54:49] BitMEX_Sam : That's how it works. It simply clears data
[2016-06-02 19:54:54] BitMEX_Sam : Please refresh and view the trade page again
[2016-06-02 19:55:22] hedgehog0223 : still nothing
[2016-06-02 19:55:35] BitMEX_Sam : As in, you still can't see 1D?
[2016-06-02 19:55:43] hedgehog0223 : yes
[2016-06-02 19:55:53] hedgehog0223 : just up to 12h
[2016-06-02 19:55:56] BitMEX_Sam : Try right-clicking the chart and hit "Reset Chart"
[2016-06-02 19:56:13] Mr Blue : hedgehog0223: you tried f5
[2016-06-02 19:56:14] BitMEX_Sam : And refresh again
[2016-06-02 19:57:04] hedgehog0223 : no does not work
[2016-06-02 19:57:12] hedgehog0223 : cannot click on it
[2016-06-02 19:57:20] hedgehog0223 : how can I view the 1d?
[2016-06-02 19:57:27] rapidtrades : habibi: stop taking holidays :)
[2016-06-02 19:57:28] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. This is a bug I've seen in the chart but it clears up after clearing data
[2016-06-02 19:57:34] rapidtrades : problem solved
[2016-06-02 19:57:36] BitMEX_Sam : Please try another browser and see if the option appears
[2016-06-02 19:57:40] BitMEX_Sam : Or simply zoom out
[2016-06-02 19:57:48] hedgehog0223 : on my phone it works
[2016-06-02 19:58:49] hedgehog0223 : ok I try another browser
[2016-06-02 20:01:48] hedgehog0223 : ahh it was a browser problem
[2016-06-02 20:01:51] hedgehog0223 : thank you
[2016-06-02 20:10:49] BTCDJS : hedgehog0223: that sometimes happens to me on safari but then it resolves itself
[2016-06-02 20:12:01] hedgehog0223 : I cannot trade at all. every order i try to put says: failed to fetch
[2016-06-02 20:16:41] rapidtrades : tonight will be fun
[2016-06-02 20:17:14] hedgehog0223 : rapidtrades: are u a daytrader?
[2016-06-02 20:17:51] rapidtrades : no
[2016-06-02 20:18:50] BTCDJS : no hes a rapidtrader
[2016-06-02 20:19:09] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-06-02 20:21:32] rentchev : day trader is an old concept
[2016-06-02 20:21:55] rentchev : you should exit the trade when your indicators suggest or if you get stopped
[2016-06-02 20:22:01] rentchev : that might be on the same day or not
[2016-06-02 20:23:00] rapidtrades : that's nitpicking :) if most of ur trades are exited same day, ur a day trader
[2016-06-02 20:23:28] BTCDJS : I think it just means thats all you do for money during your day to day. thats your job
[2016-06-02 20:25:49] rapidtrades : no that's not what it means
[2016-06-02 20:26:31] hedgehog0223 : I cannot put orders
[2016-06-02 20:26:40] hedgehog0223 : "Failed to fetch"
[2016-06-02 20:26:51] hedgehog0223 : pls someone help me
[2016-06-02 20:26:51] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it hedgehog0223
[2016-06-02 20:28:03] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ahah wait I get it
[2016-06-02 20:30:53] BitMEX_Sam : hedgehog0223: You're fine now, appears your chart threw a very high number of requests which caused you to be ratelimited
[2016-06-02 20:30:57] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into that
[2016-06-02 20:31:50] hedgehog0223 : Okay, thanks! it seems that it works now
[2016-06-02 20:58:22] asdfman : If one close with gains, will one be able to trade with the gains as well as the original amount right after?
[2016-06-02 20:59:38] Mr Blue : asdfman: no only when added to your balance
[2016-06-02 21:00:40] asdfman : when does that happen?
[2016-06-02 21:00:50] asdfman : or,, how often
[2016-06-02 21:01:55] Mr Blue : asdfman: I think everyday at 12pm though don't quote me on that, still noob here my self
[2016-06-02 21:03:28] asdfman : aah thanks :)
[2016-06-02 21:03:39] Mr Blue : No problem
[2016-06-02 21:05:07] lockhedge : CFTC fined Bitfinex for "illegal off-exchange financed retail commodities trading" http://www.coindesk.com/cftc-bitcoin-exchange-bitfinex-trading-violations/ guess that Poloniex will close their margin lending market soon
[2016-06-02 21:05:59] BTCDJS : oh dear
[2016-06-02 21:06:38] Mr Blue : lockhedge: how much was the fine?
[2016-06-02 21:07:28] lockhedge : only $75000 but they also closed margin trading for US customers
[2016-06-02 21:12:48] Mr Blue : lockhedge: cool, what you thinking about Australia selling £9 million in Bitcoin at auction?
[2016-06-02 21:14:29] Mr Blue : lockhedge: I think the fact they're copying the FED and finding Bitcoin new big investors is good, why they don't just dump on the market is beyond me lmao ?
[2016-06-02 21:16:15] Mr Blue : Still got to feel sorry for the poor drug dealer lol they could of killed me I still wouldn't give up my password for encrypted wallet dat
[2016-06-02 21:18:44] asdfman : all about consent. all things government is based on fraud and need consent
[2016-06-02 21:18:58] asdfman : gavs went bankrupt in 1930s
[2016-06-02 21:19:02] asdfman : govs*
[2016-06-02 21:20:13] asdfman : now people have become bonds via birth certificate (the basis of the fraud)
[2016-06-02 21:20:41] lockhedge : Mr Blue: maybe Craig Wright just paid tax in Australia ;)
[2016-06-02 21:23:23] Mr Blue : Though governments are controlled by the corporate elite, the corporate elites still have a great need for Bitcoin, due to the power governments could wheeled if free
[2016-06-02 21:23:34] Mr Blue : lockhedge: lol
[2016-06-02 21:24:22] Mr Blue : asdfman: true that's why your last name is in all capitals, but your going far down the rabbit hole their mate
[2016-06-02 21:28:23] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-06-02 21:32:12] Mr Blue : ?
[2016-06-02 21:32:23] lockhedge : "CFTC recognizes Bitfinex’s cooperation with the Division of Enforcement’s investigation, and that Bitfinex voluntarily made a number of changes to its business practices in order to attempt to come into compliance with the CEA." http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7380-16
[2016-06-02 21:34:11] Mr Blue : lockhedge: good for them, you know what they say, all news is good news, apart from that Isis bitcoin crap, glad the got squashed quick.
[2016-06-02 21:35:49] asdfman : @Mr Blue sure have. not sure i'm happy about it..
[2016-06-02 21:37:23] Mr Blue : Haha if somebody was trying to get Eth cheap, would be easy to spread Isis is using it lmao, two days later prob end up in a real paper.
[2016-06-02 21:37:59] lockhedge : it's definitely worth $75000 for them to have the legal certainty now that they are "in compliance with the Commodity Exchange Act"
[2016-06-02 21:39:46] Mr Blue : asdfman: least you have an open mind ?
[2016-06-02 21:39:55] Mr Blue : lockhedge: +1
[2016-06-02 21:51:18] asdfman : good point :)
[2016-06-02 22:33:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 70 @ 0.02575
[2016-06-02 22:50:15] asdfman : the rektoning is here!
[2016-06-02 22:52:49] Mr Blue : Find going for new yearly high? Lol nice action
[2016-06-02 22:55:00] Mr Blue : Buttoned
[2016-06-02 22:55:44] Mr Blue : Lol never mind was trying to say the red one on coin Desk
[2016-06-02 23:06:45] Mr Blue : I made nice profit, hope you've all done well on this boost
[2016-06-02 23:07:44] asdfman : Still hanging on
[2016-06-02 23:09:07] Mr Blue : asdfman: bigger balls then me mate, but I got stuck in at 540.50 for like 6 hours lol got out at 545 / 544
[2016-06-02 23:11:45] asdfman : Entry price 538.69. now out
[2016-06-02 23:11:57] Mr Blue : asdfman: grats mate
[2016-06-02 23:12:01] asdfman : likewise
[2016-06-02 23:12:30] Mr Blue : asdfman: I was greedy did a x35 lol was $22,000 in
[2016-06-02 23:12:38] asdfman : oh snap
[2016-06-02 23:13:10] asdfman : 50x with mearly $70 here :P
[2016-06-02 23:13:43] Mr Blue : asdfman: x50 is risky mate I was flapping with the x35 lol
[2016-06-02 23:13:47] sleger : Mr Blue: are you saying you made 22k with a 5$ move ?
[2016-06-02 23:14:30] asdfman : just getting a hang of this. not sure why the leverage is changing..
[2016-06-02 23:14:56] Mr Blue : sleger: no I'm saying I had $22000 in $1 Bitcoin tokens, made like 0.3 profit
[2016-06-02 23:15:16] sleger : ah 22k$ position, got it
[2016-06-02 23:15:17] asdfman : 22k contracts that is?
[2016-06-02 23:15:24] Mr Blue : Ye
[2016-06-02 23:15:26] asdfman : ah
[2016-06-02 23:15:33] asdfman : nice one
[2016-06-02 23:16:11] sleger : XBTUSD 83538 154.7491 XBT 525.06 539.83 -.-- 4.2910 XBT (Cross) 0.9853 XBT (31.63%) 54.9761 XBT
[2016-06-02 23:16:29] sleger : but i had around 400k position few days back
[2016-06-02 23:16:44] Mr Blue : But was stuck for some time as got in at 540 lol, and a drop to $528 would of seen me lose the lot with a times 35
[2016-06-02 23:17:05] asdfman : thats balls.. how do you even manage to get out with that size? not to mention in :P
[2016-06-02 23:17:45] sleger : liquidity is pretty good you can trade 20k easily and repeat
[2016-06-02 23:17:48] Mr Blue : Great volume here, not sure I'm not going to question it lmao
[2016-06-02 23:19:35] sleger : rebalancing was a bitch though, paid over 5btc in 3 days to carry the position
[2016-06-02 23:24:02] Mr Blue : sleger: as long as you profited mate
[2016-06-02 23:24:10] lockhedge : sleger: have you been short in Chinese markets or was this a one-way directional bet?
[2016-06-02 23:24:13] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: You paid 5 Bitcoin in funding?
[2016-06-02 23:24:27] sleger : yes @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-02 23:24:38] sleger : why is there a thing that says 5btc paid 1 is free ?
[2016-06-02 23:24:52] BitMEX_Wally : That seems a bit high for 3 days considering the rate never got above 0.7%
[2016-06-02 23:25:00] sleger : 2.818172 XBT on the 30th alone
[2016-06-02 23:25:09] sleger : 1.655286 XBT the 29th
[2016-06-02 23:25:18] sleger : 0.856529 XBT the 31st
[2016-06-02 23:25:23] sleger : >5
[2016-06-02 23:26:32] sleger : am I reading it wrong ?
[2016-06-02 23:26:40] Mr Blue : Not sure about what you two are talking about, I simply sell for more than I paid, an If I didn't make money I'd cry lol
[2016-06-02 23:27:04] j8 : i received 4.91 XBT on the 30th. not to outdo you @sleger
[2016-06-02 23:27:15] asdfman : lol me too
[2016-06-02 23:27:17] sleger : Mr Blue: if you're long you (usually) pay a funding rate at rebalancing time
[2016-06-02 23:27:29] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Sorry, I was assuming you were in a 154 XBT position the whole time
[2016-06-02 23:27:41] sleger : j8: yeah i reduced my position when I saw the rate...
[2016-06-02 23:28:05] sleger : lockhedge: indeed i was also short chinese markets, but i had a net long
[2016-06-02 23:30:07] j8 : i like the 8 hour funding calc by the way @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-06-02 23:30:25] sleger : yes much better
[2016-06-02 23:30:43] sleger : then rebalancing every 8 hours then mark to market
[2016-06-02 23:31:39] BitMEX_Wally : I wonder if we'll have enough wild weekend
[2016-06-02 23:31:49] Mr Blue : sleger: cool, and is that done at 12pm if you got open positions?
[2016-06-02 23:32:05] sleger : yes
[2016-06-02 23:32:32] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Yes, although we moving to doing it at 12pm, 8pm, 4am for XBTUSD
[2016-06-02 23:33:13] Mr Blue : sleger: thanks nice info mate
[2016-06-02 23:33:33] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: ahhh okay, and this is GMT?
[2016-06-02 23:33:49] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-06-02 23:34:21] sleger : I tried to type yes and it told me to stop spamming the chat lol. Guessing the filter is quite simply if msg == previous_msg then block
[2016-06-02 23:34:32] Mr Blue : I'm weighting this down on paper, important Sh**
[2016-06-02 23:35:10] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Thats one of the filters, to prevent browsers just retrying the POST call to the chat API
[2016-06-02 23:35:23] j8 : sleger: Thats one of the filters, to prevent browsers just retrying the POST call to the chat API
[2016-06-02 23:35:29] Mr Blue : Writing**
[2016-06-02 23:35:35] sleger : j8: spamer
[2016-06-02 23:35:38] sleger : :D
[2016-06-02 23:35:45] j8 : ;)
[2016-06-02 23:39:21] sleger : j8: I built a big long because i was hoping for a sudden crash following the pump and wanted to go 100x when premium was <0 enough, looks like it's not happening though
[2016-06-02 23:41:43] j8 : i went short the swap because the premium couldn't go too high, or at least i won't have to trade out at the market price if it does. meanwhile other stuff like the quanto's over performed. always many ways to make money
[2016-06-02 23:44:40] j8 : also while the market's bullish and there's a premium i'm less worried about DPE since i'd more likely have losses on the swap. but that could turn fast
[2016-06-02 23:44:57] sleger : i was long september as well, though had a short june for a while that's too big to get out (but its coming to expiry soon so i dont care if the premium swings)
[2016-06-02 23:48:32] lockhedge : my unhedged mm bot is short since the beginning of the pump at $450, and it still makes money somehow :)
[2016-06-02 23:50:14] j8 : the realized volatility has still been low enough that your june short was probably still profitable (net with the hedge), unless you entered at a really bad time.
[2016-06-02 23:50:55] sleger : oh yeah, and I added some during the pump anyways
[2016-06-02 23:51:37] sleger : I'm also proud to annonce that I am making this as well : 0.0024 XBT (66.22%)
[2016-06-02 23:51:49] sleger : with : DAOETH -1 39.26 DAO 0.01183
[2016-06-02 23:51:53] sleger : thanks jung1
[2016-06-02 23:52:24] j8 : i'm guessing he said buy
[2016-06-02 23:52:51] sleger : he buys all king of crap that doesnt start with bitcoin
[2016-06-02 23:52:59] sleger : *kind
[2016-06-02 23:53:11] sleger : though he is the kind of crap
[2016-06-02 23:53:14] sleger : *king
[2016-06-02 23:53:28] sleger : ah these typos...
[2016-06-02 23:53:41] j8 : lol
[2016-06-03 00:02:48] rapidtrades : are u sure u want to move mark to market?
[2016-06-03 00:03:08] rapidtrades : we're already diverging quite a bit from spot with the mark acting as a break
[2016-06-03 00:03:36] rapidtrades : just imagine what will happen when the only break is the interest (which can be avoided by getting out)
[2016-06-03 00:04:31] rapidtrades : i guess from a trading perspective there could be bigger arbs, so possible not all bad for me
[2016-06-03 00:08:24] sleger : nah there's someone with 0.6m$ that will steal them all away
[2016-06-03 00:08:28] Thedude : Bitmex :( what happend to the market makers on ETH swap, there is next to no liquidity at all. Impossible to get into a position unless at a hefty premium, let alone trying to build up a large position. Seriously what happend order book used to be stacked with 1250 contract orders at a tight spread on both sides?
[2016-06-03 00:09:02] j8 : mark to spot is not really sustainable, the insurance fund will be drained before long
[2016-06-03 00:09:55] Mr Blue : Now now j5 I only just got here lol
[2016-06-03 00:09:59] supermine : I am still bewildered about the false information of Unrealised PNL and how it does not annoy more people in here...
[2016-06-03 00:10:19] Thedude : I rather have a DPE charge then no liquidity at all. Its a useless product at the moment cant trade it..........
[2016-06-03 00:10:40] supermine : Because when rebalances happen, it is indeed realised :)
[2016-06-03 00:10:58] lockhedge : supermine: there is no false information, the contract clearly specifies that mark method
[2016-06-03 00:11:19] rapidtrades : it doesn't annoy us because good traders trade the market not their PnL, pleb
[2016-06-03 00:12:23] supermine : lockhedge: I am green according to Unrealised PNL, mark, market and entry are all indicating (all three!) that I should have Red PNL
[2016-06-03 00:13:18] supermine : anyway
[2016-06-03 00:13:19] supermine : mhh
[2016-06-03 00:13:23] supermine : mark price ok does not