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Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-06-01 01:20:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: liquidation price is the price you get liquidated at when the *mark price* hits it, not the price of the instrument as determined by orderbook and recent trades
[2016-06-01 01:20:15] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: nice! care to share a screenshot?
[2016-06-01 01:20:40] supermine : rapidtrades: Who asked you for your opinion, TROLL?
[2016-06-01 01:20:41] Rune : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i know
[2016-06-01 01:21:26] Rune : I got liquidated few days ago on accident 0.5 lesson
[2016-06-01 01:21:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: I don't have my original work on it still, but it wasn't that interesting really, just showed unrealised PNL as you'd expect. The issue is it wasn't market independent (yet) and was extremely laggy due to opening another unnecessary socket connection
[2016-06-01 01:21:47] Rune : I knew a uptrend was coming and instead of making money I got liq on to much margin
[2016-06-01 01:22:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: they'll get you with 100x leverage. I wouldn't use anything over 25 and even that is unnecessarily risky
[2016-06-01 01:22:18] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yea I figure, maybe they can give us a "simple interface" for us apple generation and a "advanced interface" for the grey-PC IBM PC Windows Bill Gates Fraction
[2016-06-01 01:22:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: lol I don't think that's the issue but I would like to see the info differently as well
[2016-06-01 01:22:45] Rune : I use 25 for bitcoin now
[2016-06-01 01:22:53] rapidtrades : why did they remove the leverage used number>
[2016-06-01 01:23:04] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks anyway good talk. Always think Apple, One Button = Richest Company on earth. Period.
[2016-06-01 01:23:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: It's in the sidebar under Your Position
[2016-06-01 01:23:11] Rune : I do short trades so 100 seemed nice but it just liq me almost instantly
[2016-06-01 01:23:11] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-06-01 01:23:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: Yeah it's just way too risky. Easy to get in over your head with leverage if you're not careful. You could be right about the direction but get liquidated right before it
[2016-06-01 01:24:13] Rune : I did not fully understand how it worked at the time
[2016-06-01 01:25:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: yes it takes some getting used to. good way to make money I guess
[2016-06-01 01:25:37] Rune : the premiums we had plus the high lev got me
[2016-06-01 01:25:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : for BitMEX I mean
[2016-06-01 01:25:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: Ah did you get liquidated on rebalance?
[2016-06-01 01:26:13] rapidtrades : GUYS THIS IS SEMICONDUCTOR CAN YOU REMOVES COLUMNS TO LOOKS LIKE FINEX? KTNXBYE
[2016-06-01 01:26:31] limsta08 : did you change the mobile layout? It is very hard to use.
[2016-06-01 01:26:36] rapidtrades : AND YEA AND I WENT TO OXFORD TNX FOR ASKINGS
[2016-06-01 01:27:14] Rune : I just submitted a trade that looked good but the mark price was closer to the liq price then I thought
[2016-06-01 01:27:40] Rune : because at the time I thought market was bitmex market but obviously it is not
[2016-06-01 01:28:27] Rune : and the market moved down slightly and before I even noticed im liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:29:09] Rune : one thing I did not get
[2016-06-01 01:29:22] Rune : when i got liq it seemed like I lost the enire amount from the trade
[2016-06-01 01:29:32] limsta08 : the new layout, it is very easy to accidently submit the fat finger close market order. very scary.
[2016-06-01 01:29:49] Rune : but it did not add up even at the price it sold at it should have had something left
[2016-06-01 01:32:36] micmix : Rune: all margin allocated to the position is lost when position is liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:32:58] micmix : (assuming you're on isolated margin)
[2016-06-01 01:33:42] Rune : so if you can get the sell off into the market yourself you might save some money
[2016-06-01 01:34:07] Rune : if you get liq you lose everything? even at the same sell prices?
[2016-06-01 01:35:03] micmix : if you are long and the market is above mark price you can close yourself and lose less
[2016-06-01 01:35:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: why do you call supermine semiconductor
[2016-06-01 01:35:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ?
[2016-06-01 01:37:02] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i have my reasons
[2016-06-01 01:37:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: whatever you say
[2016-06-01 01:37:37] rapidtrades : indeed
[2016-06-01 01:40:26] micmix : Rune: there is a margin column in the position table. when you have an open position, you will see something like 1.1 XBT (25x) in the margin column. that how much you will lose when position is liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:41:06] micmix : sorry
[2016-06-01 01:41:22] micmix : worng info
[2016-06-01 01:41:54] micmix : need to get some sleep :smile:
[2016-06-01 01:50:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Can someone confirm that swap positions are rebalanced against the mark price, not the swap market price? So if the market price is at 530 say, but the mark price is at 520, available profit from a short after rebalance would be calculated with mark price?
[2016-06-01 01:53:36] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-01 01:54:19] micmix : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yes, last rebalance was at $544.93, market was ~$550
[2016-06-01 01:55:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades, micmix: thanks, and do you remember what was the market at after rebalance?
[2016-06-01 01:55:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *what the market was at
[2016-06-01 01:56:10] micmix : let me check my bot logs
[2016-06-01 01:57:00] micmix : 2016-05-31T12:00:03.352Z BitMEX: filled limit sell order 1000.0000 XBTUSD @ 550.28 id 4359f5cc-0c5c-1b02-4424-b1808806c959
[2016-06-01 01:57:09] micmix : first trade after rebalance
[2016-06-01 01:57:41] micmix : *my bot's first trade
[2016-06-01 01:58:56] whousesthis : How does anyone use this if you can't deposit BTC in the US?
[2016-06-01 01:59:40] Rizky : vpn?
[2016-06-01 01:59:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: Awesome thanks. I was trying to understand the feasibility of this idea, but it seems unlikely to work since there will still be a position to close or liquidate after rebalance which would just eliminate all the profit. https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4j7dh9/why_the_new_xbtusd_swap_on_bitmex_is_a_superior/d3560jg
[2016-06-01 01:59:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : > "If it diverges enough you can profit by opening a position before rebalance and letting it liquidate after."
[2016-06-01 02:00:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : whousesthis: yes, some people here have said that they accessed it from the US with a vpn, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the potential for getting your funds seized if verification (which you wouldn't be able to provide) is requested
[2016-06-01 02:01:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Also someone in here earlier said that their account was limited in some way since they selected US as their country. Don't remember exactly how
[2016-06-01 02:03:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : brb
[2016-06-01 02:06:51] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: We do not accept deposits from US Citizens
[2016-06-01 02:11:03] Rune : someone sell me lisk contracts
[2016-06-01 02:23:51] Rune : BitMEX_Wally: can I get the btc I lost on a liquidation back :(
[2016-06-01 02:52:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 45 @ 0.02703
[2016-06-01 02:53:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 601 @ 0.02707
[2016-06-01 03:06:58] ca : )
[2016-06-01 03:07:16] ca : how short is this long?
[2016-06-01 03:07:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 34359 @ 527.03 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-01 03:15:16] 24hourz : we are ging down
[2016-06-01 03:15:22] 24hourz : going **
[2016-06-01 03:15:44] Rune : eth going up
[2016-06-01 03:16:16] Rune : eth has gained usd value
[2016-06-01 03:17:08] 24hourz : but whaqt about in terms of eth btc?
[2016-06-01 03:17:24] Rune : eth is going up that way also
[2016-06-01 03:17:35] Rune : getting pretty close to a new all time high usd wise
[2016-06-01 03:17:43] Rune : marketcap
[2016-06-01 03:23:43] merp : beauty bounce
[2016-06-01 03:23:58] merp : perfect inverted head and shoulders, prepare for next launch
[2016-06-01 03:30:51] Rune : bitcoin?
[2016-06-01 03:31:28] Rune : bitcoin and ether are a inverted mirror so I assume you mean bitcoin
[2016-06-01 03:32:15] Rune : I am staring at a head and shoulders eth chart right now
[2016-06-01 03:36:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 3 @ 0.02665 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-01 03:37:43] 24hourz : next up 3480 cny
[2016-06-01 03:42:29] Rune : I think eth is going up btc down this chart looks odd
[2016-06-01 03:44:12] 24hourz : eth could really explode up
[2016-06-01 03:46:20] Rune : thepattern looked like a dump and a btc recover
[2016-06-01 03:46:25] Rune : but that did not happen
[2016-06-01 03:47:23] Rune : nvm btc recovering maybe the pattern will happen
[2016-06-01 04:05:28] Rune : never gonna try trading lisk again
[2016-06-01 04:05:54] Rune : shorted 0.0007 can never close for a whole day becuse no volume
[2016-06-01 04:06:06] Rune : now starting to go back up
[2016-06-01 04:16:32] Rune : is eth about to breakout?
[2016-06-01 04:17:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: nobody knows
[2016-06-01 04:17:36] Rune : it broke it's mirrior with btc
[2016-06-01 04:17:44] Rune : now they are both moveing up
[2016-06-01 04:18:44] Rune : nvm
[2016-06-01 04:26:10] dorothy490 : Hey admins, on mobile interface
[2016-06-01 04:27:05] dorothy490 : You really can avoid fat finger issue if you hide (close order) option via stone grouping symbol +
[2016-06-01 04:28:50] dorothy490 : I.e. it should be hidden by default but if one want to use it, he can simply push "+" button just near the "close market button"
[2016-06-01 04:37:48] dorothy490 : Also interface for active orders is clumpsy, too much place is blank. Perhaps use 4 column take instead of 2
[2016-06-01 05:22:47] aethlios : waves stupid ico ending in a few hours, lisk will recover after that. ico hunters jumping from ico to ico, but I estimate waves will start in a discount. Like dao.
[2016-06-01 05:30:05] aethlios : Lisk volume tha same as dao and litecoin, and 15% of eth volume. This indicates a 150 mil. market cap. Also has 5 to 7 times dash volume which is at 57 mil. market cap.
[2016-06-01 05:40:51] user26 : lisk will recover? isn't it already recovered?
[2016-06-01 05:41:36] user26 : in terms of normal value, not that crazy out of control c-cex iou value
[2016-06-01 05:44:07] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey. Remember that guy who was adiment about removing the troll box. He couldn't just ignore it and not use it. He complained about not being able to disable it. What was he called?
[2016-06-01 05:52:23] dorothy490 : aethlios: lisk volume there is 1,5 XBT, what are you talking about? who cares
[2016-06-01 05:53:52] aethlios : dorothy490: I am talking about the coin, not swap, and compare lisk volume and market cap, with top 5 other volume and market cap coins.
[2016-06-01 07:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 67 @ 0.02631
[2016-06-01 07:22:29] Mr Blue : Morning BitMex
[2016-06-01 07:26:52] rapidtrades : hey smurf
[2016-06-01 07:27:55] Mr Blue : Lol hi @rapidtrades you been up long?
[2016-06-01 07:29:56] Mr Blue : Maybe we're both in the UK?
[2016-06-01 07:31:06] Mr Blue : So been meaning to ask you guys about the chat name colours?
[2016-06-01 07:33:18] Mr Blue : Random or with reason?
[2016-06-01 07:33:47] BitMEX_Wally : Random unless you are BitMEX staff
[2016-06-01 07:33:58] BitMEX_Wally : Then you get :bitmex:
[2016-06-01 07:34:29] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: cool was just wondering if I needed more funds in my account for a red name
[2016-06-01 07:35:22] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: you'd be surprised at the tactics I've seen some exchanges use lol
[2016-06-01 07:36:01] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe we could make the name font size bigger as you increase your balance
[2016-06-01 07:36:15] BitMEX_Wally : So everyone would know that sleger was a big dick
[2016-06-01 07:36:23] Mr Blue : Lmao
[2016-06-01 07:37:47] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: I'm still playing with pennies here mate, but thinking about sending in some more funds now I've tried the exchange out
[2016-06-01 07:38:02] BitMEX_Wally : Cool, let us know if you have any questions. We're happy to help
[2016-06-01 07:38:13] Mr Blue : Will do
[2016-06-01 07:57:06] user26 : What day is weekly Rebalance?
[2016-06-01 07:57:22] user26 : in what day
[2016-06-01 07:58:45] user26 : ah, nevmind, found it
[2016-06-01 07:59:47] Mr Blue : user26: what day? I also have a little profit stored away
[2016-06-01 08:01:34] Mr Blue : Still not sure if I'm playing correctly here, I could be getting in and out too fast lol, but just been testing it out
[2016-06-01 08:36:56] daoist : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LSKBTC/Oa7rgHzc-LSK-BULL-WEEK-2/
[2016-06-01 08:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.02552 :punch: :whale:
[2016-06-01 08:41:38] Rune : omega rekted
[2016-06-01 09:01:02] mwalshe99 : hey guys. can someone explain to me how settlement works now?
[2016-06-01 09:02:56] mwalshe99 : does the mark get readjusted?
[2016-06-01 09:03:50] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: not sure mate, one day they must do an audit and make settlement of profits / loss, still new here my self so can't help you
[2016-06-01 09:06:42] Mr Blue : mwalshe99: you made any nice profit?
[2016-06-01 09:07:37] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: For our perpetual swaps there is no settlement. Instead there is a daily or weekly rebalancing at the underlying index proce
[2016-06-01 09:07:40] BitMEX_Wally : *price
[2016-06-01 09:19:14] mwalshe99 : BitMEX_Wally: sorry. haven't slept much. can you elaborate?
[2016-06-01 09:19:18] mwalshe99 : does this affect the mark price?
[2016-06-01 09:19:27] mwalshe99 : is there one today?
[2016-06-01 09:20:32] Mr Blue : No sleep = sign of a good trader lol
[2016-06-01 09:28:30] Arthur_ : Hello! Are "Funding Fees" payed daily or just when I open/close a position?
[2016-06-01 09:29:15] jesperf : read up on the contract specification...
[2016-06-01 09:29:56] BitMEX_Arthur : Arthur_: Currently they are daily
[2016-06-01 09:30:21] BitMEX_Arthur : But you can see the countdown to the funding time on the order controls panel on the left hand side
[2016-06-01 09:30:47] john david : hello
[2016-06-01 09:30:56] john david : how do i deposit moeny
[2016-06-01 09:31:12] Rune : bitcoin steped on a nail
[2016-06-01 09:31:39] Mr Blue : john david: go to wallet at the top right click on it then click deposit
[2016-06-01 09:31:44] Arthur_ : Thanks!
[2016-06-01 09:32:21] Mr Blue : john david: I assume you have some Bitcoin?
[2016-06-01 09:36:07] Mr Blue : If not you could use circle.com then send the Bitcoin here, circle is quick coz you can just buy the Bitcoin with your debit / credit card, however they limit you to buying like 0.5 BTC a week, due to bank fraud risk
[2016-06-01 09:45:24] Mr Blue : But I'm starting to think circle don't add a transaction fee for sending BTC off site, been waiting like 30 mins for 1 confirmation
[2016-06-01 09:46:56] BitMEX_Wally : (Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 461 bytes)
[2016-06-01 09:47:35] BitMEX_Wally : 21691 Satoshi per kB
[2016-06-01 09:48:15] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: they added it? Hmm they must be paying the fee their self lol because my balance only went down 1 BTC
[2016-06-01 09:48:43] BitMEX_Wally : Yes they put a fee on the tx, but it will probably have to wait 4 blocks before it is included
[2016-06-01 09:49:08] BitMEX_Wally : https://bitcoinfees.github.io
[2016-06-01 09:49:09] Mr Blue : Suspicious really as I can't see how circle makes money, and it's run by the global elites
[2016-06-01 09:50:26] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: cool
[2016-06-01 09:50:59] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: you plant to add more cryptocurrency we ? Or more company stock?
[2016-06-01 09:51:07] Mr Blue : Plan*
[2016-06-01 09:51:39] Mr Blue : We = next*
[2016-06-01 09:52:09] BitMEX_Wally : Circle makes money by charging a spread, i.e if the price of BItcoin is $530 they'll sell it at $535
[2016-06-01 09:52:11] Mr Blue : Ahh my transaction from circle just arrived guys
[2016-06-01 09:52:51] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: ye but I can also sell ?
[2016-06-01 09:55:06] Mr Blue : goldman sachs owns circle I believe, didn't I read you once worked for a company like them @BitMEX_Wally ?
[2016-06-01 09:58:04] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: you need more news posts like that, it got me to sign up lol
[2016-06-01 09:58:47] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: Yeah it was brilliant coverage
[2016-06-01 09:59:19] BitMEX_Wally : I've worked for a statarb hedge fund, and a US investment bank
[2016-06-01 10:00:00] Mr Blue : Facebook advertising is also a great way to advertise, as you can target add to show to people that like Bitcoin groups, that's how I got over 500 refs on crypts
[2016-06-01 10:00:16] Mr Blue : Cryptsy*
[2016-06-01 10:01:04] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: who did you find out about Bitcoin sir
[2016-06-01 10:01:13] Mr Blue : How did you**
[2016-06-01 10:01:54] BitMEX_Wally : I read Mathematics and Computer Science at university, and have always worked at the intersection of technology and finance
[2016-06-01 10:02:12] BitMEX_Wally : So Bitcoin was always something of interest
[2016-06-01 10:02:44] BitMEX_Wally : I went to my first Bitcoin meet up in April 2013
[2016-06-01 10:02:46] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: that sounds like a scripted response lol but I smoke too much weed
[2016-06-01 10:03:04] BitMEX_Wally : Hah
[2016-06-01 10:03:19] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: cool, I also found out about Bitcoin late 2012 early 2013
[2016-06-01 10:04:23] Mr Blue : Only problem was I was Fiat poor so had to beg scrape and trade for all the Bitcoins I earned
[2016-06-01 10:05:21] Mr Blue : Not a miner my self, though I wish I had been lol
[2016-06-01 10:10:42] sq : BitMEX_Wally: which asset classes did u trade at the hedge fund?
[2016-06-01 10:10:54] BitMEX_Wally : Equities and futures
[2016-06-01 10:11:04] sq : sweet, based in hk?
[2016-06-01 10:11:09] BitMEX_Wally : London
[2016-06-01 10:11:18] sq : ic nice
[2016-06-01 10:11:42] sq : can u use the same technology on bitcoin>?
[2016-06-01 10:11:44] sq : or is it diff
[2016-06-01 10:11:56] sq : interested in stat arb myself
[2016-06-01 10:12:29] Mr Blue : Trading bots work well in crypto, if you can make your own or find one you trust
[2016-06-01 10:13:17] Mr Blue : Personally I like to trade and web by hand, but I can see how a bot would make big money
[2016-06-01 10:14:08] Mr Blue : Trade and arb* damn Google keyboard lol
[2016-06-01 10:16:17] Mr Blue : Bots can also lose money, easy to fool them with a pump / dump, but I'm talking about with the alt currencies, clearly I'm not whale enough to move the BTC market
[2016-06-01 10:27:03] PublicUsername : current ETH price seems to be stuck @ 0.02600 Mark Price + 0.02558
[2016-06-01 10:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 20 @ 0.02555
[2016-06-01 10:32:31] Mr Blue : This guy knows about bots lol
[2016-06-01 10:54:32] BitMEX_Wally : PublicUsername: We take the ETH price from Poloniex
[2016-06-01 10:55:48] PublicUsername : BitMEX_Wally: gathered that - that way I can have a chart in Tradingview
[2016-06-01 10:57:13] PublicUsername : 1 that updates fairly frequently 2 boot
[2016-06-01 11:07:42] Mr Blue : Idiot I just sold at 537 before bull rush lmao
[2016-06-01 11:14:51] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: where do you trade by yourself?
[2016-06-01 11:15:09] BitMEX_Wally : I don't
[2016-06-01 11:15:18] BitMEX_Wally : I trade on testnet.bitmex.com to test things out though
[2016-06-01 11:17:31] Mr Blue : I made like $2 when could of made $4 doesn't sound like much, but if I was Nepali I'd be having a party lol
[2016-06-01 11:17:33] dorothy490 : maybe you're using woodchipper?
[2016-06-01 11:18:09] dorothy490 : for personal purposes.. cant beleive you're not trading given you should have some btc holding and have experience in the field
[2016-06-01 11:18:46] jesperf : even if crypto trading isn't regulated the same way it would be very unfair if the bitmex team traded here
[2016-06-01 11:19:01] jesperf : that's why there are insider laws in the fiat world
[2016-06-01 11:21:09] BitMEX_Wally : jesperf: Insider trading is more about non-public information about the company. You're thinking about front-running client flow?
[2016-06-01 11:22:11] BitMEX_Wally : So BitMEX employees trade on testnet
[2016-06-01 11:22:50] jesperf : BitMEX_Wally: institutional trading/banking employees are generally very limited in their allowed trading and they must disclose everything publicly. even if they don't possess non-public information they still get an unfair advantage
[2016-06-01 11:23:15] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, but these PA dealing rules don't cover currencies usually
[2016-06-01 11:23:45] jesperf : currency trading is covered in europe at least
[2016-06-01 11:24:00] BitMEX_Wally : Is that a new Mifid rule?
[2016-06-01 11:24:26] Mr Blue : I assume BitMex is operating as our broker for the stock, so they can't avoid buying / selling, but so far I've only been playing with the Bitcoin market here
[2016-06-01 11:24:29] BitMEX_Arthur : Don't worry it's the bank employees that are screwing you it's the bank itself
[2016-06-01 11:24:38] BitMEX_Arthur : These PA dealing rules are stupid imo
[2016-06-01 11:24:44] BitMEX_Arthur : it's not the bank employees
[2016-06-01 11:24:45] jesperf : I don't think it's very new. I started working in an organisation that's required me to report on trades
[2016-06-01 11:24:56] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: BitMEX does not buy or sell, all trades are against each other
[2016-06-01 11:25:02] jesperf : I choose to interpret it so that crypto trades are not covered :-)
[2016-06-01 11:26:46] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: ye but the top 50 China is real stock or a bet with prices matching the stock? Doesn't matter to me really not like I want to take the stock to bed lol, I'll pump / dump and take my profit if possible
[2016-06-01 11:26:58] BitMEX_Wally : The A50 is an equity future
[2016-06-01 11:27:36] BitMEX_Wally : The market maker might be hedging their position with stock, or some other future
[2016-06-01 11:27:43] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: cool I'm just a noob to such terms, I'm just used to buying then selling
[2016-06-01 11:28:17] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: +1 keep up the good work anyways mate
[2016-06-01 11:32:52] mwalshe99 : can someone explain to me whether what happens during funding?
[2016-06-01 11:33:13] mwalshe99 : does 0.1285% get of my current open position get taken from my balance?
[2016-06-01 11:33:22] mwalshe99 : as a sort of fee?
[2016-06-01 11:35:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : mwalshe99: I believe that's corrent. BitMEX_Wally?
[2016-06-01 11:35:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *correct
[2016-06-01 11:35:28] haxmb : mwalshe99: its a swap fee, you pay 0.1285% of your position if you're long
[2016-06-01 11:35:34] haxmb : it gets paid to the short holders
[2016-06-01 11:35:40] BitMEX_Arthur : For `XBTUSD`
[2016-06-01 11:35:44] mwalshe99 : ok perfect
[2016-06-01 11:35:44] mwalshe99 : thanks
[2016-06-01 11:35:50] BitMEX_Arthur : And the rates will differ on the other swap contracts
[2016-06-01 11:36:20] mwalshe99 : 0.1285% of my leveraged position or just my margin?
[2016-06-01 11:37:54] haxmb : leveraged position
[2016-06-01 11:37:54] BitMEX_Arthur : mwalshe99: The amount of Bitcoin paid or received is based on the leveraged position size
[2016-06-01 11:37:59] haxmb : if you're 100 bitcoin lon
[2016-06-01 11:38:23] haxmb : long* you pay 0.1285% of 100 bitcoin = 0.1285 btc
[2016-06-01 11:47:02] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: If you have a fixed leverage position then the funding comes out of the isolated margin
[2016-06-01 11:47:42] BitMEX_Wally : if you are short and receive funding it goes into your wallet balance
[2016-06-01 11:49:16] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: next day rate?
[2016-06-01 11:55:51] Mr Blue : Bitcoin bull run incoming ?
[2016-06-01 11:56:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: perhaps, but this could easily be a bearish pennant too
[2016-06-01 11:56:54] rapidtrades : smurf has a point!
[2016-06-01 11:57:04] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: no ur wrong
[2016-06-01 11:57:33] Mr Blue : Google's pushing close to $536 we're normally $7 ahead here
[2016-06-01 11:57:57] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: anything can happen in an infinite universe mate
[2016-06-01 11:58:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: not on finex, on okcoin and huobi. Finex looks a bit different
[2016-06-01 11:58:12] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: lol thanks
[2016-06-01 11:58:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Mr Blue: you give me hope
[2016-06-01 11:58:29] rapidtrades : this chat is a mess right now
[2016-06-01 11:58:49] Mr Blue : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha glad I can help
[2016-06-01 11:59:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : T -10
[2016-06-01 11:59:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 9
[2016-06-01 11:59:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 8
[2016-06-01 11:59:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 7
[2016-06-01 11:59:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 6
[2016-06-01 11:59:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 5
[2016-06-01 11:59:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 3
[2016-06-01 11:59:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 2
[2016-06-01 12:00:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1
[2016-06-01 12:00:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Liftoff
[2016-06-01 12:00:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *rebalance
[2016-06-01 12:00:46] Rune : wat
[2016-06-01 12:06:29] mwalshe99 : everything has recalculated apart from my entry price?
[2016-06-01 12:06:40] mwalshe99 : not really showing me my new break even
[2016-06-01 12:07:53] BitMEX_Wally : If you however over your entry price it will show the rebalanced price
[2016-06-01 12:09:19] mwalshe99 : boom shake the room
[2016-06-01 12:09:20] mwalshe99 : thanks
[2016-06-01 12:09:21] dorothy490 : why dont show rebalanced price first then? and instead show entry price on hovering
[2016-06-01 12:09:30] dorothy490 : that would be easier to udnerstand
[2016-06-01 12:09:32] Mr Blue : Bull up ladies, Mr blue needs a new pair of shoes
[2016-06-01 12:10:45] Mr Blue : $542??
[2016-06-01 12:13:38] Rune : I hate Unrealised PNL telling me how much I make at mark price
[2016-06-01 12:13:45] Rune : so pointless
[2016-06-01 12:20:08] rapidtrades : the newbs here don't remember a time when mark followed spot, so cute :)
[2016-06-01 12:23:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1300 @ 538.76
[2016-06-01 12:24:17] Mr Blue : Well I sold at $542, now we just see how much I get screwed over, but grabbed at $537 anyways
[2016-06-01 12:30:19] Mr Blue : Damn could of done with that extra $3 x5 ?
[2016-06-01 12:34:55] rapidtrades : Mr Blue: don't worry about, i got it
[2016-06-01 12:35:46] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: lol it's cool I could of still made a nice $25 - fee's
[2016-06-01 12:36:06] Mr Blue : should of *
[2016-06-01 12:36:34] jesperf : ffs, not of, it's have
[2016-06-01 12:37:20] Mr Blue : Well yes I have lol + $2 this morning so $27 profit so far today lol
[2016-06-01 12:38:00] rapidtrades : uh oh....uve upset the gramer polis
[2016-06-01 12:38:21] jesperf : people who can't spell should have their fingers removed
[2016-06-01 12:38:32] Rune : wow
[2016-06-01 12:39:29] jesperf : rapidtrades: I've got my eyes on you, you sinful bastard :D
[2016-06-01 12:40:13] Mr Blue : Just I don't see it all yet, says 1.135 in wallet, but I transfered in 1.1 lol so some profit is on hold I think, still new to this type of exchange
[2016-06-01 12:40:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 28033 @ 540.30 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-06-01 12:41:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 151 @ 541.03
[2016-06-01 12:41:34] Rune : if you click account
[2016-06-01 12:41:37] Rune : you can see Withheld Profit
[2016-06-01 12:41:59] Rune : and if you hover over that it gives some info
[2016-06-01 12:42:29] Mr Blue : Rune: thanks mate, says 0.07 BTC so I've not done bad today
[2016-06-01 12:43:31] Rune : bitcoin is spiking real good time to bring back the premiums?
[2016-06-01 12:46:11] Mr Blue : I had to sell at 542 somebody needs to slap my face lol, but at least I'm still holding in BTC, so gains are gains both ways
[2016-06-01 12:46:28] aethlios : Now waiting for china premium to go 50 usd and open arb again.
[2016-06-01 12:47:29] Mr Blue : I'll grab back in sooner rather than later, but for now it's joint time, happy trading guys
[2016-06-01 12:48:17] rapidtrades : anyone done the math on the liquidation buffer for okc?
[2016-06-01 12:48:39] rapidtrades : how much is it in % or $
[2016-06-01 13:09:32] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: I think their maintenance margin is 1% whereas ours is 0.5%
[2016-06-01 13:10:48] BitMEX_Wally : They say "20%" margin call threshold, and this is 20% of the initial margin which is 5%
[2016-06-01 13:11:22] sleger : you're correct
[2016-06-01 13:13:19] tscha : BitMEX_Wally: withdrawals have already been processed right?
[2016-06-01 13:13:30] BitMEX_Wally : They're being broadcast now
[2016-06-01 13:26:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8 @ 544.60
[2016-06-01 13:28:28] Mr Blue : Grats
[2016-06-01 13:29:12] mrp1nk : the fomo is real
[2016-06-01 13:30:55] gedza : BitMEX_Wally: hi, can you check what is going on with my withdrawal?
[2016-06-01 13:38:50] BitMEX_Wally : gedza: It has been broadcast but has not been included in a block yet
[2016-06-01 13:38:50] Mr Blue : gedza: computer says no... O.j mate
[2016-06-01 13:38:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7 @ 544.84
[2016-06-01 13:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.02593
[2016-06-01 13:45:19] gedza : BitMEX_Wally: thnx
[2016-06-01 13:47:13] jj : Hi BitMex wally
[2016-06-01 13:47:25] jj : can I contact you on private chat ?
[2016-06-01 13:49:22] BitMEX_Wally : jj: Please email support@bitmex.com
[2016-06-01 13:50:42] jj : ok, just sent you
[2016-06-01 14:59:10] Mr Blue : Bitcoins on a roll again, good time to buy in
[2016-06-01 15:03:46] Mr Blue : I think this time I'll short at $550
[2016-06-01 15:29:32] rentchev : 550 will be a breakout
[2016-06-01 15:30:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.02613
[2016-06-01 15:37:14] Mr Blue : rentchev: Google says $540 I think we'll at least see $547 again tonight
[2016-06-01 15:41:38] Mr Blue : Lower now lol
[2016-06-01 15:43:48] sq : Google says 540?? where!?
[2016-06-01 15:46:28] Mr Blue : sq: gone now lol, but soon ?
[2016-06-01 16:42:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 125 @ 0.02638
[2016-06-01 16:46:35] Mr Blue : Looks like I'm going long lol
[2016-06-01 16:48:34] sleger : Mr Blue: why is that funny ?
[2016-06-01 16:49:50] ggwp : cause #yolo
[2016-06-01 16:50:01] ggwp : *yolong
[2016-06-01 16:50:38] sleger : oh I see you're a clown too
[2016-06-01 16:50:44] Mr Blue : sleger: because I was trying to do a quick one, might not be funny to you.
[2016-06-01 16:50:59] ggwp : we're all clowns
[2016-06-01 16:51:16] sleger : seems like you Laugh Out Loud quite easily
[2016-06-01 16:51:17] ggwp : degenerate gambling ones at that
[2016-06-01 16:51:35] Mr Blue : But I grew up in the 90s so I'll lol as much as I like
[2016-06-01 16:52:11] Mr Blue : Ahhh the days of msn messenger
[2016-06-01 16:53:16] sleger : hmm and now you're gambling your first monthly salaries
[2016-06-01 16:53:48] Mr Blue : ??? I've been trading for years pal
[2016-06-01 16:57:29] sleger : well if you grew up in the 90s I assumed you started working recently hence what i said
[2016-06-01 16:57:59] Mr Blue : I work for my self ☺
[2016-06-01 16:58:27] Mr Blue : Before that I worked at Opera North £20 an hour
[2016-06-01 16:59:01] ggwp : did you hear the fat lady sing?
[2016-06-01 17:00:09] Mr Blue : Few times, but I was just an orchestral porter, set up stage load van, best thing was star wars lol
[2016-06-01 17:01:41] sleger : wow that's paid pretty well considering the job
[2016-06-01 17:01:47] ggwp : sounds like an experience, the more of those the better
[2016-06-01 17:01:56] Mr Blue : Anyways that was an after school job, but it's always better to work for your self if you can, shouldn't really have to explain my self or my worth... I'll say LOL as much as I like end of story
[2016-06-01 17:02:01] sleger : and what do you do for yourself, only trading ?
[2016-06-01 17:15:16] laurenssteen : What is the difference between realised and unrealised profit ?
[2016-06-01 17:21:58] arbitrage001 : realized profit is when you close your position and take the profit
[2016-06-01 17:22:04] arbitrage001 : unrealized is just paper gain
[2016-06-01 17:22:59] arbitrage001 : fluctuate based on market price
[2016-06-01 17:25:17] sleger : *based on the marking price
[2016-06-01 17:26:11] laurenssteen : Ok thx so it's the realised that matters
[2016-06-01 17:28:51] sleger : no everything matters
[2016-06-01 17:33:49] laurenssteen : so now my unrealised is up and my realised is down. If I close my position, I will lose XBT?
[2016-06-01 17:36:15] sleger : it depends, you did not give enough information to answer
[2016-06-01 17:42:14] laurenssteen : unrealised 0.1055 XBT and realised -0.25067 XBT
[2016-06-01 17:42:36] sleger : well the sum is -0.15
[2016-06-01 17:42:46] laurenssteen : ah ok
[2016-06-01 17:42:56] sleger : so if you close at marking price you lose
[2016-06-01 17:43:23] laurenssteen : so you sum them up and you have about the amount
[2016-06-01 17:44:01] laurenssteen : last question, what is the RAW amount while hovering on realised
[2016-06-01 17:44:26] sleger : realised pnl since last rebalancing
[2016-06-01 20:32:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 90 @ 0.02639
[2016-06-01 20:32:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 15 @ 0.02631
[2016-06-01 21:40:03] rapidtrades : top o' the morning to you fellas!
[2016-06-01 21:41:46] rapidtrades : ether aint looking so hot
[2016-06-01 21:55:09] ggwp : when's 100x coming back?
[2016-06-01 22:06:33] rapidtrades : trust me, you're better off without it
[2016-06-01 22:28:41] supermine : 100x LoL
[2016-06-01 22:39:34] supermine : Ok another Entry/Mark question
[2016-06-01 22:39:54] supermine : My Entry and Mark price are clearly indicating I shoul dbe at a loss
[2016-06-01 22:40:03] supermine : but Unrealised PNL shows lotsa profit
[2016-06-01 22:40:05] supermine : how can that be?
[2016-06-01 22:42:14] rapidtrades : because we're up since the rebalance dummy
[2016-06-01 22:43:43] supermine : Anyone?
[2016-06-01 22:43:49] supermine : WIth credentials?
[2016-06-01 22:44:21] rapidtrades : I have ur credentials RIGHT HERE *flips you off
[2016-06-01 22:44:42] supermine : Anybody of legal age?
[2016-06-01 22:44:48] supermine : or Subject Matter Expert?
[2016-06-01 22:44:51] supermine : Nobody?
[2016-06-01 22:44:55] supermine : Ok I can wait.
[2016-06-01 22:44:56] supermine : :)
[2016-06-01 22:44:59] supermine : : )
[2016-06-01 22:56:26] BitMEX_Sam : supermine: Rapidtrades is correct, your unrealised profit is your profit since the last rebalance, which was at 12:00 UTC today on XBTUSD and 12:00 UTC last Friday on all other contracts
[2016-06-01 22:56:41] rapidtrades : HA!
[2016-06-01 22:57:04] BitMEX_Sam : Although his methods are questionable
[2016-06-01 22:57:25] rapidtrades : I love hearing that I'm right , god bless u sir @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-01 23:04:02] supermine : BitMEX_Sam: Can I ignore people in here? rapidtrades made clear that his only mission is to insult customers.
[2016-06-01 23:04:44] supermine : It is very unprofessional.
[2016-06-01 23:04:48] aethlios : Friday soon and okcoin settlement, let's arb the current week if spread to 10 usd in next hours!!
[2016-06-01 23:05:16] rapidtrades : hold onto ur butts! we're moving
[2016-06-01 23:05:52] ggwp : BitMEX_Sam: are you planning on reintroducing the 100x any time soon?
[2016-06-01 23:05:59] Mr Blue : Good job I never sleep lol
[2016-06-01 23:06:49] BitMEX_Sam : ggwp: Hoping so, but not sure of the timeline on that
[2016-06-01 23:06:55] BitMEX_Sam : We're assessing the risk factors
[2016-06-01 23:07:13] BitMEX_Sam : supermine: At this point in time you can't ignore individual users, but it's on my list.
[2016-06-01 23:07:24] supermine : Thanks.
[2016-06-01 23:07:42] ggwp : you do advertise it on your greeting page
[2016-06-01 23:07:59] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, this move to 50x is intended to be temporary
[2016-06-01 23:08:32] rapidtrades : temporary as a goverment program!
[2016-06-01 23:08:45] ggwp : oh, ok. thanks
[2016-06-01 23:10:54] rapidtrades : let's do a cheer for China
[2016-06-01 23:11:01] rapidtrades : gimme a C
[2016-06-01 23:11:09] rapidtrades : gimme a U
[2016-06-01 23:11:14] rapidtrades : gimme a N
[2016-06-01 23:11:19] rapidtrades : gimme a T
[2016-06-01 23:11:26] rapidtrades : wait, that's not ot
[2016-06-01 23:11:59] rapidtrades : let me try that again
[2016-06-01 23:11:59] ggwp : >this desperate for attention
[2016-06-01 23:12:06] rapidtrades : gimme a C
[2016-06-01 23:12:11] rapidtrades : gimme an A
[2016-06-01 23:12:15] rapidtrades : gimme a N
[2016-06-01 23:12:22] rapidtrades : gimmer another C
[2016-06-01 23:12:26] rapidtrades : gimme an E
[2016-06-01 23:12:29] ggwp : R
[2016-06-01 23:12:37] rapidtrades : fu
[2016-06-01 23:12:52] rapidtrades : i almost got it
[2016-06-01 23:13:07] ggwp : on second thought I should have put an L there
[2016-06-01 23:13:47] BitMEX_Sam : Congrats rapidtrades, you've earned a temporary ban
[2016-06-01 23:14:52] ggwp : ;_;
[2016-06-01 23:15:15] micmix : now we lost our entertainment
[2016-06-01 23:18:09] ggwp : REFUND!
[2016-06-01 23:20:42] Mr Blue : Thank got for that, was stuck long at $544 for like 5 hours, got out at $546.50
[2016-06-01 23:20:48] Mr Blue : God*
[2016-06-01 23:25:41] supermine : Shorted even more
[2016-06-01 23:26:07] supermine : BitMEX_Sam: Temporary. *sigh
[2016-06-01 23:26:10] supermine : :)
[2016-06-01 23:26:13] supermine : : )
[2016-06-01 23:43:00] sleger : damn, and I wasnt even responsible this time :(
[2016-06-01 23:46:54] Mr Blue : I'm starting to love this exchange, only been a member two days and I believe by tomorrow I'll of made 1 BTC profit, seems easy to make money off low margins here, not sure how it works out, so they can be solvent loaning us funds like this, but it's great lol
[2016-06-01 23:47:21] BitMEX_Sam : No loaning actually goes on - it's just numbers in a database
[2016-06-01 23:48:34] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: well it's the kind of numbers I like lmao
[2016-06-01 23:51:39] Mr Blue : I can see how positions could get cleaned out if Bitcoin dropped $100, but most people watch like a hawk, so can't see it happening often.
[2016-06-01 23:52:21] BitMEX_Sam : The liquidation engine takes care of that, for the most part
[2016-06-01 23:53:42] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: so far I've only been playing with x5, I'll try out x25 in the morning ?
[2016-06-01 23:53:57] BitMEX_Sam : Good luck, but be very careful with high leverage - the market has been moving very quickly.
[2016-06-01 23:55:34] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Sam: advice noted sir
[2016-06-01 23:56:35] supermine : Shorters win again.
[2016-06-01 23:59:31] ggwp : not so fast
[2016-06-02 00:08:16] supermine : BitMEX_Sam: youthere?
[2016-06-02 00:08:21] supermine : I have a question
[2016-06-02 00:08:29] supermine : Unrealised PNL display, is that accurate at all times?
[2016-06-02 00:08:46] supermine : is the bid or the ask used as calculation basis?
[2016-06-02 00:10:32] Mr Blue : Night guys happy trading
[2016-06-02 00:11:03] lockhedge : supermine: no, the mark price (index price + time weighted interest rate) is used and we currently still have a 1% premium
[2016-06-02 00:12:55] supermine : ok mark price is 537.2 in my case, I am short since 540.61 (entry price and rebalanced almost the same), current price is 540.9 bid and YET PNL shows plus.
[2016-06-02 00:14:44] ggwp : pnl is based on mark price
[2016-06-02 00:16:23] sleger : "id": 151014, "date": "2016-05-30T22:05:32.370Z", "user": "supermine", "message": "I am so stupid that not even your dog would bang me. This is what I do. Go around Trollboxes being dumb about everything to annoy 13-year old penny traders.",
[2016-06-02 00:17:05] sleger : how is it going 0.6m$ boy who thinks a 600k position would be huge ?
[2016-06-02 00:17:47] supermine : sleger: That was sarcasm in reaction to the Nihilist and Brain-Cancer ridden individual named rapidtrades.
[2016-06-02 00:18:18] supermine : sleger: JUST F*CK OFF YOU BRAIN AMPUTATED TOY
[2016-06-02 00:18:21] sleger : yes but you still tried to make people believe you had a 0.6m$ position until I called you out
[2016-06-02 00:18:34] sleger : oh someone else deserves a ban
[2016-06-02 00:18:41] supermine : Please read my last message. That will be the last message I am posting to you.
[2016-06-02 00:18:57] sleger : "id": 151060, "date": "2016-05-30T22:13:49.340Z", "user": "supermine", "message": "Actually I got an Oxfrod degree",
[2016-06-02 00:19:01] sleger : Oxfraud
[2016-06-02 00:19:21] supermine : lockhedge: So Unrealised PNL is off ?
[2016-06-02 00:21:02] sleger : he already answered, switch your brain to ON
[2016-06-02 00:21:10] supermine : So much hate in this Box, meaning so many loosing positions. All selling into my short covers later. Nice!
[2016-06-02 00:21:16] sleger : or maybe use the oxfraud degree :D lol
[2016-06-02 00:21:36] supermine : I rape your mum if she wouldnt be so ugly
[2016-06-02 00:21:53] supermine : So I leave it at that.
[2016-06-02 00:21:57] ggwp : another b& coming to town...
[2016-06-02 00:21:59] supermine : But it was nice thinking about it
[2016-06-02 00:22:12] sleger : you mean I "would", did you not learn engrish at oxfraud ?
[2016-06-02 00:22:17] supermine : I am defending myself
[2016-06-02 00:22:45] supermine : sleger needs momma milk every 5 pm in the evening or he is going to pee himself in the night.
[2016-06-02 00:23:09] sleger : well when you show up pretending you have a 0.6m$ position and I call you out on it in 2 minutes, yes you dont look the brightest...
[2016-06-02 00:23:10] supermine : So cute if it weren't for the fact that he is a Grandpa without teeth
[2016-06-02 00:23:51] supermine : I dont give a f*uck about what you think, you little TOY. If I see you on the street, I would smack you in the face for good you little boy
[2016-06-02 00:24:21] sleger : and just 3 minutes ago : "supermine: So much hate in this Box"
[2016-06-02 00:24:29] supermine : Make sure to Doxx everything, because it is so grown up, prooving my point, little teenage boy
[2016-06-02 00:24:40] sleger : today is gonna be the first day with 2 bans in a few hours, right ? @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-06-02 00:24:44] lockhedge : supermine: to get back to your question: currently the market price is 1% above the mark price . it's very likely that this premium drops to 0 again within the next 24 hours, but the market can probably stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent...
[2016-06-02 00:24:55] supermine : sleger: Take a look in the mirror boy
[2016-06-02 00:26:16] supermine : lockhedge: understood now what mark price and entry price and market price is. But if all those numbers are telling me I should be at loss, I think its a bug that the system says PNL is +13% in my case.
[2016-06-02 00:26:54] sleger : dont worry you will lose soon enough
[2016-06-02 00:26:56] supermine : I could screenshot it and send to support for more Q&A
[2016-06-02 00:27:07] supermine : sleger: I am on the leaderboard dumbnass
[2016-06-02 00:27:19] sleger : whats a dumb "nass" ?
[2016-06-02 00:27:53] supermine : Ask Google Moron
[2016-06-02 00:27:53] sleger : oh yeah ? in the first leaderbord (btc profit) I hope ? cause the 2nd one doesnt mean anything
[2016-06-02 00:28:07] supermine : Get off my back Troll
[2016-06-02 00:28:20] BitMEX_Sam : supermine: If you shorted from 540 and the mark price is 536.95, that's a profit
[2016-06-02 00:28:24] sleger : i am there too btw, want to bet who is higher ? 10btc bet ?
[2016-06-02 00:28:31] supermine : sleger: TROLL
[2016-06-02 00:28:48] supermine : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks. My man!
[2016-06-02 00:28:54] sleger : we can use any admin as an escrow if you want