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[2016-05-31 16:05:42] rapidtrades : we USD market not this crazy exchange
[2016-05-31 16:05:54] cekseh : ^
[2016-05-31 16:10:29] merp : BitMEX_Sam: lmk when you shoot an email
[2016-05-31 16:13:11] BitMEX_Sam : Will do @merp
[2016-05-31 16:36:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12 @ 534.11
[2016-05-31 16:55:09] dorothy490 : why I cant see orderbook past 529 ??
[2016-05-31 16:55:46] sleger : dorothy490: do you intend to sell more than 30k ?
[2016-05-31 17:00:57] rapidtrades : what are theh current index weightings? seems we're not following finex closely anymore
[2016-05-31 17:01:12] rapidtrades : not that it matters much here
[2016-05-31 17:03:49] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: need more depth!
[2016-05-31 17:04:10] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: fullscreen the chart
[2016-05-31 17:05:37] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Sam: here you go http://i.imgur.com/Q2og4k7.png
[2016-05-31 17:06:15] BitMEX_Sam : Ah because you have grouping on.
[2016-05-31 17:06:27] BitMEX_Sam : We have an open ticket to rework some of the underlying data - for now that's all there is in the frontend.
[2016-05-31 17:06:59] BitMEX_Sam : Try https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/orderBook/L2?symbol=XBTUSD&depth=50 for more
[2016-05-31 17:07:32] dorothy490 : kk
[2016-05-31 18:06:19] rapidtrades : up or down fellas
[2016-05-31 18:06:42] tscha : you first
[2016-05-31 18:06:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sideways? but up I hope
[2016-05-31 18:06:55] rapidtrades : up
[2016-05-31 18:06:57] tscha : down then
[2016-05-31 18:07:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2016-05-31 18:07:06] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-05-31 18:08:25] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: down
[2016-05-31 18:08:33] BTCDJS : 510 then up
[2016-05-31 18:09:01] rapidtrades : dam okc rly slow right now
[2016-05-31 18:09:06] rapidtrades : hope we don't get dddddoes
[2016-05-31 18:10:20] rapidtrades : looks like a lot of the selling was arbers
[2016-05-31 18:10:50] kris2222 : hi
[2016-05-31 18:11:00] kris2222 : how do exit a tarde?
[2016-05-31 18:11:06] kris2222 : trade
[2016-05-31 18:11:16] rapidtrades : this again...bitmex how about a close button
[2016-05-31 18:11:29] kris2222 : where is the button?
[2016-05-31 18:11:37] rapidtrades : there isn't any
[2016-05-31 18:11:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kris2222: If you're long, go short the same number of contracts and vice versa
[2016-05-31 18:12:47] kris2222 : ok, thanks
[2016-05-31 18:13:02] kris2222 : starnge ways of controllig...
[2016-05-31 18:14:15] BitMEX_Sam : We've actually *just* added a position close feature to the positions list
[2016-05-31 18:14:21] BitMEX_Sam : You'll see it if you refresh
[2016-05-31 18:14:35] BitMEX_Sam : It will automatically create a limit or market order for you.
[2016-05-31 18:14:59] dorothy490 : nice
[2016-05-31 18:15:43] dorothy490 : that other option 'stop on actual price' - is it much further in the list?
[2016-05-31 18:16:14] BitMEX_Sam : It should be arriving soon.
[2016-05-31 18:16:25] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: nice
[2016-05-31 18:16:43] kris2222 : yes I see it, thank you
[2016-05-31 18:17:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dorothy490: As opposed to mark price? Sounds like a good idea when there is a premium
[2016-05-31 18:17:50] dorothy490 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yesh
[2016-05-31 18:18:26] kris2222 : used the button, now it's "pending close" and does not close
[2016-05-31 18:19:04] kris2222 : ah,ok,I put some price in
[2016-05-31 18:19:46] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: if you click either close or market buttons is there a confirmation first ?
[2016-05-31 18:19:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kris2222: Or you can click the market button to close into the orderbook at the best available price
[2016-05-31 18:19:52] QuantFocus : Is this book a little backed up right now?
[2016-05-31 18:19:53] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Yes
[2016-05-31 18:20:09] sleger : good
[2016-05-31 18:20:23] BitMEX_Sam : You can disable the limit close dialog (Do not show again) but you cannot disable the market close dialog.
[2016-05-31 18:20:53] sleger : crashhhhh
[2016-05-31 18:22:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: 10 cny is a crash now?
[2016-05-31 18:23:05] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: no it's not but i saw all premiums compressing on all futures everywhere so expected a bit more of a crash
[2016-05-31 18:23:24] sleger : doesnt always work though :D
[2016-05-31 18:23:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Ah I see, interesting
[2016-05-31 18:24:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The XBTUSD premium is certainly down quite a bit from 24 hours ago
[2016-05-31 18:26:06] BTCDJS : Is it just me or is the premium on DAO a bit high?
[2016-05-31 18:36:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol huobi
[2016-05-31 19:12:16] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: Where are you comparing to?
[2016-05-31 19:16:34] dorothy490 : ok admins, you have to work on your help section
[2016-05-31 19:16:55] dorothy490 : I cant find order types comission nor in FAQ nor in Trading References / Order Types
[2016-05-31 19:17:18] dorothy490 : ah, its on fees subsection
[2016-05-31 19:17:20] dorothy490 : nevermind
[2016-05-31 19:19:38] BitMEX_Greg : dorothy490: Let me know if you trouble finding any other information
[2016-05-31 19:22:50] Rune : lol someone put a 10000 contract short on lisk
[2016-05-31 19:23:14] aethlios : Rune: That's me. if anyone interested....
[2016-05-31 19:23:52] Rune : Someone please do it I want to see it
[2016-05-31 19:26:26] arbitrage001 : is it fair price?
[2016-05-31 19:26:39] arbitrage001 : lisk that is
[2016-05-31 19:27:51] dorothy490 : lisk 24h volume 2, what else you need to know
[2016-05-31 19:27:53] Rune : theres a big premium
[2016-05-31 19:28:31] arbitrage001 : if it is a bargain, someone will take it
[2016-05-31 19:43:15] rapidtrades : i see a gap of 26 mins in recent trades
[2016-05-31 19:43:18] rapidtrades : was finex down
[2016-05-31 19:45:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I see recent finex trades and it hasn't appeared to be down. Are you watching it on cryptowat.ch? They get pretty laggy sometimes
[2016-05-31 19:45:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although the cryptowat.ch interface is nicer, bitcoinwisdom is a lot more useful during high volatility
[2016-05-31 19:46:47] rapidtrades : well now recent trades are all from 2 mins ago soooo
[2016-05-31 19:46:57] rapidtrades : ofc ur not seeing the gap
[2016-05-31 19:49:40] sleger : rapidtrades: still holding ?
[2016-05-31 19:50:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 522.21 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-31 19:51:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 94 @ 521.39
[2016-05-31 19:51:11] 24hourz : Get rekt!
[2016-05-31 19:51:11] Rune : what a sell off
[2016-05-31 19:51:42] dorothy490 : what a chain reaction of liquidations
[2016-05-31 19:53:04] sleger : dorothy490: where do you see large liquidations ?
[2016-05-31 19:53:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol how does a 1 contract long get liquidated. Someone trading with $0.01 margin?
[2016-05-31 19:53:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.02661 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-31 19:53:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: May have been a joke
[2016-05-31 19:55:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it happens, go full fixed leverage on a single contract
[2016-05-31 20:00:14] rapidtrades : this instrument is closed
[2016-05-31 20:00:26] rapidtrades : anyone got that message for a second
[2016-05-31 20:00:56] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yes, that's normal at 4:00, 12:00, and 20:00 UTC
[2016-05-31 20:01:12] Rune : the PNL calc sometimes glitches and tells me I will earn 29,160.0000 XBT
[2016-05-31 20:01:19] BitMEX_Sam : That's technically a trading session close and we archive some data at that time. It usually takes < 100ms but some clients may see the update before it reopens
[2016-05-31 20:01:23] Rune : it has happend mutiple times
[2016-05-31 20:01:26] BitMEX_Sam : Rune: What's the input?
[2016-05-31 20:02:06] Rune : 2000 contracts entry 520.42 exit 535.0
[2016-05-31 20:02:11] Rune : XBTUSD
[2016-05-31 20:02:34] Rune : I think it happens when I switch to other coins then back after a long time
[2016-05-31 20:03:02] Rune : 3rd time I have noticed this but closing it and re opening it fixes it
[2016-05-31 20:03:25] rapidtrades : how quick is the index update here? @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-05-31 20:03:33] rapidtrades : i know it lagged few mins before
[2016-05-31 20:05:15] rapidtrades : don't refresh on okc, u may get website is down
[2016-05-31 20:05:39] Rune : houbi volume just died?
[2016-05-31 20:06:03] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: It updates every 5s from Kaiko
[2016-05-31 20:06:09] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-05-31 20:06:43] rapidtrades : is the kaiko supplied data live tho or delayed
[2016-05-31 20:06:44] BitMEX_Sam : Rune: That profit/loss is correct on other contracts due to their size, just not XBTUSD
[2016-05-31 20:07:02] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: It's live
[2016-05-31 20:07:07] rapidtrades : also what are the current weights
[2016-05-31 20:07:17] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-05-31 20:07:49] rapidtrades : gracias homes
[2016-05-31 20:08:29] rapidtrades : so finex is stil 50%....then stamp's dragging us down?
[2016-05-31 20:08:57] rapidtrades : don't mean now, before...nvm
[2016-05-31 20:11:09] eV : what are the parameters for determining if account is exceeding risk limit? is there a help entry on the subject?
[2016-05-31 20:11:47] BitMEX_Sam : eV: Risk Limit is an internal limit we set per account - on most accounts it is very high
[2016-05-31 20:12:47] BitMEX_Sam : In your case it is set due to your country
[2016-05-31 20:13:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 140 @ 0.02703
[2016-05-31 20:13:26] eV : lol, thx for the info
[2016-05-31 20:13:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 125 @ 0.02713
[2016-05-31 20:16:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.02729
[2016-05-31 20:16:23] rapidtrades : eV: are u from the land of the free?
[2016-05-31 20:17:56] rapidtrades : home of the brave?
[2016-05-31 20:25:08] aethlios : it's time to close okcoin bitmex arb, from 40 to 3 usd.
[2016-05-31 20:25:44] eV : no, im actually an alien from Niribu and selected usa under direction from Galatic Command.. Idiots
[2016-05-31 20:30:03] jung1 : eV: oh, so its you
[2016-05-31 20:30:05] jung1 : shalom
[2016-05-31 20:31:18] rapidtrades : china is truly nuts
[2016-05-31 20:31:58] rapidtrades : glad the US market stayed mostly calm tho
[2016-05-31 20:32:08] rapidtrades : shows lot of this was due to arbing
[2016-05-31 20:33:14] eV : cny premium normalizing, das iz goot
[2016-05-31 20:33:25] rapidtrades : that was reply to this guy >>> @aethlios
[2016-05-31 20:37:44] aethlios : Hello eryone, if btc isn't 700 after halving, many miners will shut down, this will be a problem for the network.
[2016-05-31 20:39:12] rapidtrades : sure sure
[2016-05-31 20:40:09] rapidtrades : call me crazy but maybe miners should've factored in the halvening
[2016-05-31 20:40:31] rapidtrades : i mean it was only there from the beginning in 2009
[2016-05-31 20:41:13] arbitrage001 : aethlios: i have yet to see any western asic miners company survive longer than 2 years
[2016-05-31 20:42:43] rapidtrades : well I have yet to see a Chinese person over 50 without lung cancer
[2016-05-31 20:44:29] aethlios : problem is when price above 500, blocks full and costs are 0.25 usd to send btc. This makes btc expensive for micro daily transactions (pay coffee). So investors don't buy more, halving happens and miners default. System and price find equilibrium below, 250-300 usd.
[2016-05-31 20:45:15] arbitrage001 : cost of production has little to do with market price
[2016-05-31 20:45:41] arbitrage001 : lots of copper and iron ore miners went bankrupt in australia, same situation
[2016-05-31 20:46:03] aethlios : arbitrage001: profit has, after halving costs the same but revenue half.
[2016-05-31 20:46:22] arbitrage001 : which the consumers dont care
[2016-05-31 20:46:46] Rune : what consumers people hardly use bitcoin to pay for things
[2016-05-31 20:46:56] arbitrage001 : you and i
[2016-05-31 20:47:04] arbitrage001 : traders, gamblers for bitcoin case
[2016-05-31 20:47:48] Mr Blue : I use takeaway.com and shop at the computer exchange in town all the time with BTC
[2016-05-31 20:48:29] Rune : tons of stores that accepted btc eventually shut down that part of there check out because lack of use
[2016-05-31 20:49:04] Rune : people who daytrade bitcoin always have btc on hand so they do buy stuff with it sometimes
[2016-05-31 20:49:22] Rune : but there is not a lot of us
[2016-05-31 20:49:36] arbitrage001 : i dont buy stuffs with btc
[2016-05-31 20:49:47] arbitrage001 : fee is higher than using local currency
[2016-05-31 20:50:02] Mr Blue : Maybe in your country, but no extra costs involved in accepting Bitcoin once they already started, so I see no reason to close down the option
[2016-05-31 20:50:23] arbitrage001 : bitpay fee is higher than credit card last i chcked
[2016-05-31 20:50:28] Rune : cost in maintaining the option
[2016-05-31 20:50:43] Mr Blue : Cex.com big store with locations all over the UK
[2016-05-31 20:51:25] arbitrage001 : xapo and some btc credit card charge even higher fee
[2016-05-31 20:51:27] Rune : why would you accept bitcoin at your online store and have it integrated to the site when you only get like 20$ in sales with it a month
[2016-05-31 20:51:38] Rune : and other payment options have like millions
[2016-05-31 20:53:27] Mr Blue : Your just pulling numbers out your ass mate, yes Bitcoin sales have been down since the last time it hit $1000 people don't like to spend when they know it should be worth more, but we're about to see a boom in Bitcoin spending again
[2016-05-31 20:54:11] Mr Blue : Also if bitpay fee's are higher than a credit card company I'll eat my hat
[2016-05-31 20:54:38] arbitrage001 : have you check the rate when using bitpay
[2016-05-31 20:55:01] arbitrage001 : btc rate that is
[2016-05-31 20:55:21] Mr Blue : Not used bitpay since 2013 but they don't want to go out of business I assume
[2016-05-31 20:55:38] Mr Blue : Other options such as coinbase as well
[2016-05-31 20:59:23] sleger : of course using bitcoin as a method of payment is much more expensive currently
[2016-05-31 20:59:30] Mr Blue : If your in the UK I do recommend takeaway.com great service when I'm hungry, and I can moan in ten years about how much I've spent on takeaway lol
[2016-05-31 20:59:31] sleger : all these payment processors charge conversion to fiat
[2016-05-31 21:01:07] Rune : and when sending 1$ you are paying over 5c in fees
[2016-05-31 21:01:22] Rune : 5%
[2016-05-31 21:04:10] Rune : I remember when it was less then a penny per transaction
[2016-05-31 21:04:29] Mr Blue : They don't charge much, only big charge from places like btc-e.com, coinbase and bitpay are very competitive compared to credit cards, but not as many people have Bitcoin as bank cards yet, so it's just an added extra option for most companies, if your Bitcoin only sales will be effected, however return loyalty should be higher, seed companies like pickandmixseeds.co.uk I also spend much Bitcoin on
[2016-05-31 21:04:37] Rune : and everyone talked about how credit cards where a rip off and you can send bitcoin practically free
[2016-05-31 21:05:00] Mr Blue : In the last two months alone pick and is have had over two BTC off me
[2016-05-31 21:06:27] Mr Blue : Eventually merchants will be able to buy stock with Bitcoin, pay employees with Bitcoin, so the need to convert to Fiat won't be as great, we're not there yet, but getting there
[2016-05-31 21:06:48] Rune : even if they are in bitcoin at all times
[2016-05-31 21:06:55] Rune : the transaction fees are high
[2016-05-31 21:07:08] Rune : and they seem to only get higher
[2016-05-31 21:07:32] Mr Blue : Their not lol, but I'll agree to disagree with you.
[2016-05-31 21:08:03] Rune : they have gone from 0.05% on a 1$ transaction to 5% in 2 years
[2016-05-31 21:08:26] Rune : seems like it will only climb
[2016-05-31 21:08:50] rapidtrades : noone's buying shit with bitcoin
[2016-05-31 21:08:57] Rune : I know
[2016-05-31 21:09:16] Rune : and if people did start adopting it the transaction fee would be even higher
[2016-05-31 21:09:57] Rune : and they would all see 15c fees when trying to buy 1$ coffee
[2016-05-31 21:11:11] Rune : You need to spend a good amount of moeny for a bitcoin transaction to be worth it at that point
[2016-05-31 21:11:18] 24hourz : Satoshi put the block reward as a subsidy to allow as much adoption as fast as possible. Fee market wasnt supposed to happen until most of the block reward was gone
[2016-05-31 21:12:05] KyllingLolsson : this chat is so much better than trading view...
[2016-05-31 21:12:58] Rune : when the block reward is finally completely out it will cost 1$ per transaction or 10$?
[2016-05-31 21:13:05] Rune : lol
[2016-05-31 21:13:41] rapidtrades : i'll be too rich to care
[2016-05-31 21:13:47] Mr Blue : Transaction fee for me = 4p like 6 cents, but if you don't want to add a fee I'm sure you can send for free transaction would just take much longer
[2016-05-31 21:14:03] rapidtrades : longer? as in what
[2016-05-31 21:14:06] rapidtrades : days weeks
[2016-05-31 21:14:08] rapidtrades : months
[2016-05-31 21:14:10] rapidtrades : years
[2016-05-31 21:14:13] rapidtrades : a decade?
[2016-05-31 21:14:37] Mr Blue : I'd say 4 to 5 hour or quicker
[2016-05-31 21:14:57] rapidtrades : i think i pay 10 cents or smth
[2016-05-31 21:15:14] Rune : if you send with 0.0000000 fee it can take day to months to never completing
[2016-05-31 21:15:16] rapidtrades : only place thats higher is here due to its fancy multisig
[2016-05-31 21:15:43] Rune : if the unconfirmed transactions on que is congested enough your transaction will never make it
[2016-05-31 21:15:47] rapidtrades : elsewhere 0.0000002 or whatever it is usually does the job
[2016-05-31 21:16:28] Mr Blue : Don't forget many Bitcoin companies allow off blockchain transactions with 0 fees if BTC is held with there company
[2016-05-31 21:16:48] Rune : thats a terrible solution
[2016-05-31 21:17:03] Rune : bitcoin IOUs
[2016-05-31 21:17:05] rapidtrades : well you're a terrible person soooo
[2016-05-31 21:17:07] Mr Blue : Like if I send BTC to my friends phone numbers via circle.com
[2016-05-31 21:17:17] Mr Blue : It's free
[2016-05-31 21:18:35] sleger : basis too high on U16
[2016-05-31 21:19:03] rapidtrades : $15 is kinda high
[2016-05-31 21:21:20] rapidtrades : sleger: still keeping ur okc quaterly?
[2016-05-31 21:21:39] sleger : what did I have ? I'm long some now
[2016-05-31 21:21:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 500 @ 543.20
[2016-05-31 21:22:16] rapidtrades : sleger: idk it seemed like u were arbing
[2016-05-31 21:22:38] rapidtrades : ''i can stay solvent longer then the market can stay irrational''
[2016-05-31 21:22:43] rapidtrades : ego 2016
[2016-05-31 21:22:48] sleger : yes that's true
[2016-05-31 21:23:22] sleger : but im glad the cny premium didnt go above 200$ !!
[2016-05-31 21:23:34] rapidtrades : busto?
[2016-05-31 21:24:05] arbitrage001 : i think price will drop below 500
[2016-05-31 21:24:28] rapidtrades : u would've had to sell ur Maserati to pay off the brokers
[2016-05-31 21:24:54] rapidtrades : maybe turn some tricks on the side too
[2016-05-31 21:25:59] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: it prolly wont but thank u for the opinion
[2016-05-31 21:26:36] arbitrage001 : 20 dollars move is only 4% away
[2016-05-31 21:26:53] mwalshe99 : buying here because im crazy
[2016-05-31 21:27:06] rapidtrades : china already fell 85...we're not going much further
[2016-05-31 21:27:32] rapidtrades : well futures not china per say
[2016-05-31 21:29:45] rapidtrades : there's over a month to the halvening, we're just getting started imo
[2016-05-31 21:30:22] arbitrage001 : putting too much faith into halving
[2016-05-31 21:30:46] arbitrage001 : people selling now are idiots?
[2016-05-31 21:31:02] Mr Blue : My guess is we'll see £600 then £1000 by Christmas before dropping down to £600 not sure what that is in $ but you get the idea
[2016-05-31 21:31:51] Mr Blue : Next gamble is that in 4 years by the next block reward halving price per BTC will = £10,000
[2016-05-31 21:32:41] zanza : then u can go perpetual long for 4 years :)
[2016-05-31 21:32:55] zanza : make your trade, check back in 2020
[2016-05-31 21:32:56] Mr Blue : For sure the buying power will increase, just depends by how much
[2016-05-31 21:33:14] Mr Blue : zanza: haha I'm long for sure mate
[2016-05-31 21:37:06] jung1 : Mr Blue: not shure what will be $ value in 4 years from now ;)
[2016-05-31 21:37:27] jung1 : I think that we should start counting everything i yuan
[2016-05-31 21:38:50] Mr Blue : jung1: lol if I traded in Fiat I'd be buying Yuan my self
[2016-05-31 21:40:17] Mr Blue : jung1: out of all costs seems the best to invest in, but ye most the mining and trading is currently done in China, I got your meaning mate
[2016-05-31 21:40:34] Mr Blue : All fiats*
[2016-05-31 21:45:29] jung1 : There could be red on forex market in next few years
[2016-05-31 21:46:09] jung1 : euro will hurt if there will be brexit, dollar will fal lif they will not start a war with saudi arabic
[2016-05-31 21:46:13] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: are you short yet?
[2016-05-31 21:46:21] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-05-31 21:47:20] jung1 : good that there is no fiat money on bitmex
[2016-05-31 21:49:35] Mr Blue : When I look at a map of Bitcoin merchants, I think to my self.. hmm the global elites really screwed over Saudi Arabia, seems they never got the message about Bitcoin lol, you watch I bet they end up backing Iran then the supreme Iotola of Iran, will become the version of the pope for the Muslims so they can be controlled.. A shame really Bitcoin would explode with real Saudi investment, in my opinion Isis is controlled by the global elites as much as Bitcoin is, both in the shadows
[2016-05-31 21:51:16] jung1 : #illuminati
[2016-05-31 21:51:51] BTCDJS : what the hell are you guys talking about? Stay off the wacky backy will ya
[2016-05-31 21:51:51] jung1 : but yeah could be. People like soros, rotshild family and some others play in global size monopoly
[2016-05-31 21:52:31] Mr Blue : But why the attacks?? Possibly to start world war 3 just to kill people off? Or do they plan to really support Iran and back stab the saudis, time will tell
[2016-05-31 21:53:03] jung1 : war=money
[2016-05-31 21:53:56] jung1 : now contracts for building companies, more weapons have to be made, you can forced new law in your country.
[2016-05-31 21:54:20] jung1 : usa is well known to bringing democracy by force to places that dont need them
[2016-05-31 21:54:52] Mr Blue : jung1: true the Rothschild's got all the Christian church's money in the early 19th century, they're still probably laughing now, but will laugh more after they also have the Muslims money lol
[2016-05-31 21:55:02] Mangalica : is the leaderboard updated daily now?
[2016-05-31 21:55:09] Mr Blue : BTCDJS: haha true I smoke too much mate
[2016-05-31 21:59:51] jung1 : Mangalica: which leaderboard?
[2016-05-31 22:00:05] jung1 : Mr Blue: bake some brownies
[2016-05-31 22:00:07] sleger : bitmex one
[2016-05-31 22:00:22] sleger : how's your long factom doing
[2016-05-31 22:00:29] sleger : /dao / lisk etc...
[2016-05-31 22:01:01] jung1 : already told you
[2016-05-31 22:01:17] jung1 : that I sold some on profit, then rebuy lower
[2016-05-31 22:01:34] Mr Blue : jung1: +1 or vape it, I'm currently smoking some Amnesia Haze 30% THC
[2016-05-31 22:01:49] jung1 : and I recived back my ico investment + some profit + some tokens for long term
[2016-05-31 22:02:46] jung1 : Mr Blue: so its true that all that bitcoin stuff is about narcos
[2016-05-31 22:02:49] jung1 : ...
[2016-05-31 22:03:45] Mr Blue : Erm no I've been smoking cannabis since before Bitcoin was invented lol and I buy it with £ not BTC
[2016-05-31 22:04:06] Mr Blue : Though I do admit to looking on the darknet ?
[2016-05-31 22:08:44] Mr Blue : What we need is a new version of TOR cloned and marched with the Bitcoin blockchain, call it the freenet or skynet the reason the darknet and the onion network failed is 1) because they allowed people to call it the darknet, and 2) they didn't have Bitcoin to pay people to host nodes for domain token reward or some crap, if people hosted more nodes the darknet would actually be secure, but most the nodes are FED because the people of Earth have no reason to host a node
[2016-05-31 22:08:53] Mangalica : jung1: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard this one
[2016-05-31 22:09:14] Mr Blue : Merged*
[2016-05-31 22:09:46] Mr Blue : Would be much better than ICAN running the entire internet
[2016-05-31 22:11:46] jung1 : oh shit I never saw it before
[2016-05-31 22:12:32] Mr Blue : Tor project is open source Bitcoin is open source, somebody needs to merge them and have a baby lol
[2016-05-31 22:12:41] Mangalica : jung1: it's relatively new
[2016-05-31 22:13:52] Mangalica : if you see a gold/yellow highlight then that's you
[2016-05-31 22:15:30] Mr Blue : Google can't run the internet if Icann.org runs it, think about it ?
[2016-05-31 22:36:31] rapidtrades : wth happened
[2016-05-31 22:37:08] rapidtrades : nvm had june open
[2016-05-31 22:42:19] jung1 : june are really cheap
[2016-05-31 22:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 3 @ 0.02607 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-31 22:46:09] Mr Blue : Grats
[2016-05-31 22:49:55] BTCDJS : Sooooo. this new close button is pretty sweet huh? Haven't used it yet.
[2016-05-31 22:50:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 531.03
[2016-05-31 22:54:10] micmix : I see insurance fund lost about 20 coins
[2016-05-31 22:55:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1801 @ 533.42
[2016-05-31 22:55:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 533.50
[2016-05-31 22:56:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 18271 @ 533.95
[2016-05-31 22:58:17] jung1 : micmix: back in the days blackcoin also have some kind of insurence fund
[2016-05-31 22:59:12] jung1 : It was called blackshield or something like that. The Idea was a coins that would be used if price fall to buy up and keep price on some level
[2016-05-31 23:10:23] supermine : what close button?
[2016-05-31 23:11:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: scroll the right in the open positions list if you have an open position and you'll see it
[2016-05-31 23:11:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: was just added a few hours ago so you may need to refresh if you haven't recently
[2016-05-31 23:11:55] supermine : yes thats nice
[2016-05-31 23:12:01] supermine : a refresh did the trick. confirmed
[2016-05-31 23:12:04] supermine : thanks!
[2016-05-31 23:12:26] supermine : Now how to disable it?
[2016-05-31 23:12:33] supermine : A click on "Market" - Horrifiying
[2016-05-31 23:12:45] jung1 : oh
[2016-05-31 23:12:47] jung1 : cool
[2016-05-31 23:12:52] jung1 : live long bitmex
[2016-05-31 23:13:10] BTCDJS : supermine: you want to disable it?
[2016-05-31 23:13:22] BTCDJS : just don't use it
[2016-05-31 23:13:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: haha yeah the market button is there to make BitMEX more money
[2016-05-31 23:14:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : can't be disabled AFAIK, but like BTCDJS said, you don't have to use it
[2016-05-31 23:17:22] Mangalica : well at least the market close button prompts a popup window asking whether you really want to do it
[2016-05-31 23:18:37] Mangalica : and you can't disable that one (unlike the pop-up you get when you wanna limit close)
[2016-05-31 23:18:40] Mangalica : so it's all good
[2016-05-31 23:22:53] jung1 : polo released windows trading software
[2016-05-31 23:23:43] BTCDJS : jung1: no they didn't
[2016-05-31 23:23:49] BTCDJS : it's a virus
[2016-05-31 23:24:03] BTCDJS : dont download
[2016-05-31 23:24:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: BTCDJS knows what he's talking about
[2016-05-31 23:25:02] jung1 : oh
[2016-05-31 23:25:06] jung1 : true that
[2016-05-31 23:25:15] jung1 : I had it on my mail
[2016-05-31 23:25:27] jung1 : but did not notice that its from different domain
[2016-05-31 23:25:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4lv10a/warning_fake_poloniex_windows_trading_software/
[2016-05-31 23:25:55] BTCDJS : Be careful
[2016-05-31 23:33:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: execution qty is always green for funding transactions in trade history, hard to see if you were long or short. maybe show red qty if short and green if long position?
[2016-05-31 23:44:49] ayy_lmao : the close button on open orders is awesome
[2016-05-31 23:45:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ayy_lmao: it is if you want to pay 0.075% instead of earning 0.025% for closing an order
[2016-05-31 23:45:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The market button I mean
[2016-06-01 00:47:27] ayy_lmao : i only use the limit
[2016-06-01 00:47:45] ayy_lmao : which is why its awesome, i dont have to switch between market and limit now
[2016-06-01 00:48:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh in the sidebar you mean?
[2016-06-01 00:50:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I just use the limit controls and click in the orderbook if I want to market buy/sell.
[2016-06-01 00:51:33] rapidtrades : not crashing is a good sign imo
[2016-06-01 00:53:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: agreed. also the fact that the dip from 3600 to 3500 was retraced pretty quickly
[2016-06-01 00:55:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I could see 3660 in pretty short order on OKC, or perhaps even a full retrace to 3700
[2016-06-01 00:55:06] Rune : woah I put in a buy order and my buy was higher then the markets sell and noting happened
[2016-06-01 00:55:25] Rune : I ended up canceling it but it was up there for awhile
[2016-06-01 00:55:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: Sure you were looking at the right side/pressed the button you intended to?
[2016-06-01 00:56:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : What market? I'd like to see it again
[2016-06-01 00:56:23] Rune : bitcoin sep 30
[2016-06-01 00:56:47] Rune : maybe it was a error and there order was removed but stayed up?
[2016-06-01 00:57:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Well, did it create or add to an open position?
[2016-06-01 00:57:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Or remove it if that was what you wanted to do
[2016-06-01 00:57:23] Rune : I had a buy at 657.88
[2016-06-01 00:57:32] Rune : and there was a sell at 657.68
[2016-06-01 00:57:39] Rune : but I did not get it
[2016-06-01 00:57:46] Rune : and it sat there for like 20 seconds
[2016-06-01 00:57:52] Rune : then I just cancel
[2016-06-01 00:58:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: sounds like lag perhaps, like you were briefly disconnected from the backend
[2016-06-01 00:58:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : not sure
[2016-06-01 00:58:53] rapidtrades : that happened twice to me earlier today on the swap
[2016-06-01 00:59:16] rapidtrades : it was a fast market so its possible bids just moved
[2016-06-01 01:00:18] rapidtrades : i thought it was super strange too
[2016-06-01 01:01:05] sleger : maybe its the api feature for maker to not pay the taker fee
[2016-06-01 01:01:22] sleger : so they wont match 2 limit orders and maybe that's what happened
[2016-06-01 01:01:47] rapidtrades : i was limit selling but i would've been a taker
[2016-06-01 01:02:16] sleger : ah ok i thought you were the first order and another order came through yours
[2016-06-01 01:02:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: There is a feature under Advanced Order Options so an order won't immediately execute against the market, but it just cancels the order, it doesn't show it in the orderbook
[2016-06-01 01:03:43] sleger : ok i never tried it with the ui, so if it cancels then thats not it
[2016-06-01 01:03:54] rapidtrades : it was rly weird...i sell limit bids move lower, do it again, they move lower again..think i finally got it on 3rd try
[2016-06-01 01:04:01] sleger : does Rune also have a 386 laptop like rapid ?
[2016-06-01 01:04:17] Rune : no
[2016-06-01 01:04:29] rapidtrades : it never happened here before in that way
[2016-06-01 01:04:29] Rune : high end desktop
[2016-06-01 01:04:51] sleger : then you should ask some admin, but probably lag or bug
[2016-06-01 01:05:12] rapidtrades : admin where u at?
[2016-06-01 01:05:52] sleger : actually i think all orderbook data come through websocket, the place order doesnt trigger a screen order book refresh so it shouldnt happen
[2016-06-01 01:06:00] Rune : I doubt I can recreate it so it does not matter
[2016-06-01 01:06:01] sleger : worth having them check
[2016-06-01 01:06:28] sleger : no but if you can give details (time, price etc) they have logs they can check
[2016-06-01 01:06:39] micmix : I noticed some lag in orderbook UI but mostly related to highlighting your own orders
[2016-06-01 01:07:28] micmix : sometimes it highlights wrong order but I never noticed wrong data
[2016-06-01 01:08:16] Rune : ok well if the admin asks I have the order ID to show him
[2016-06-01 01:08:27] sleger : i did see inverted data but its only when they had that bug mixing orderbooks from different instruments in the UI
[2016-06-01 01:10:32] rapidtrades : they way they pulled the bids right after i clicked sell seemed like they did it specifically to avoid my order
[2016-06-01 01:12:04] rapidtrades : and they were moved just beyond my limit
[2016-06-01 01:12:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Is it possible to have an order in front to detect (when it's taken) and pull orders behind it quickly, or is the orderbook essentially frozen before a trade is executed?
[2016-06-01 01:12:14] Rune : I have so much Withheld Profit I can hardly trade
[2016-06-01 01:12:35] rapidtrades : orderbook is never frozen afaik
[2016-06-01 01:12:44] Rune : money you lose is gone right away but money you make is Withheld Profit
[2016-06-01 01:13:17] Rune : I lost a bunch and made a bunch back now it's just a small amount to trade with
[2016-06-01 01:14:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: so it's possible they had a smaller order in front they were able to quickly pull before your order hit the ones behind, yes? Maybe I should ask one of the BitMEX guys about this because I'm curious if it's possible
[2016-06-01 01:14:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: happens sometimes
[2016-06-01 01:14:32] rapidtrades : i gunned for the first bid in line
[2016-06-01 01:14:36] supermine : Question:
[2016-06-01 01:14:45] supermine : The PNL value
[2016-06-01 01:14:50] supermine : does it include fees?
[2016-06-01 01:14:54] rapidtrades : HEY its semi-conductor guy
[2016-06-01 01:15:23] rapidtrades : plz tell me u lost all ur monies
[2016-06-01 01:15:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: interesting. semi-conductor guy?
[2016-06-01 01:15:32] micmix : rapidtrades: if the price is going down quickly by the time you see the bid in the UI that bid is already pulled
[2016-06-01 01:15:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: it is based on the mark price, not the book, and it doesn't include fees
[2016-06-01 01:16:16] rapidtrades : yeah that seems likely but never happened in this way.....and never heard anyone but Rune complain about anything similar until today
[2016-06-01 01:16:19] rapidtrades : micmix:
[2016-06-01 01:16:51] rapidtrades : it was rly weird....bids were staying put then i click sell and poof
[2016-06-01 01:16:54] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Mhh please give us interface like Finex, where everyting is in plain simple terms. PNL, Entry Price Period.
[2016-06-01 01:17:00] rapidtrades : same thing twice or three times
[2016-06-01 01:17:20] supermine : Who the fuck cares about some mark price why should I care?
[2016-06-01 01:17:23] supermine : I dont want to care
[2016-06-01 01:17:28] supermine : I want PNL and my Entry price.
[2016-06-01 01:17:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: I'm not a BitMEX rep but I've talked to them about it before. I agree with your point
[2016-06-01 01:17:37] supermine : Thanks
[2016-06-01 01:17:46] supermine : Overcomplicate things != User friendly
[2016-06-01 01:17:46] micmix : I didn't notice any problems but it's worth checking into by Wally or Sam
[2016-06-01 01:18:00] rapidtrades : supermine: why would u want to take away info?
[2016-06-01 01:18:01] supermine : USer Interface = Needs to be user friendly
[2016-06-01 01:18:12] supermine : Thanks @IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2016-06-01 01:18:13] rapidtrades : supermine: maybe u need to be less dumb
[2016-06-01 01:18:16] micmix : supermine: you should care bc you get liquidated on mark price
[2016-06-01 01:18:34] supermine : micmix: I know..
[2016-06-01 01:18:35] supermine : then
[2016-06-01 01:18:39] supermine : they need to call it
[2016-06-01 01:18:42] supermine : Liquidation price
[2016-06-01 01:18:45] supermine : not mark price
[2016-06-01 01:18:50] supermine : why are there 3 prices.
[2016-06-01 01:18:52] micmix : oh my
[2016-06-01 01:18:54] supermine : that is one too many
[2016-06-01 01:18:54] rapidtrades : this is the dumbest complain ever...what's the problem here? its an eye sore to see the mark/liq price?
[2016-06-01 01:18:56] supermine : FInex
[2016-06-01 01:18:59] supermine : is simpler
[2016-06-01 01:19:04] rapidtrades : u jew
[2016-06-01 01:19:09] supermine : Bitmex needs to take a hard look at finex
[2016-06-01 01:19:13] Rune : mark price is the market price
[2016-06-01 01:19:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: I've experimented briefly with building a userscript (javascript added to the page by your browser) to show the information in the way you suggest, but haven't worked on it in a while. One of the BitMEX guys made a hook available on testnet to make it easier but I haven't tried it really
[2016-06-01 01:19:14] supermine : FUCK OFF RETARD!
[2016-06-01 01:19:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : calm down everyone lol
[2016-06-01 01:19:28] Rune : liq price isthe price you get liquidated at when market hits that
[2016-06-01 01:19:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix makes a good point about the liquidation issue too
[2016-06-01 01:19:40] supermine : I AM CALM YOU NEED TO CALM THE TROLL !!!!!!!!
[2016-06-01 01:19:44] rapidtrades : i rly don't get this....is he getting information overload lol
[2016-06-01 01:20:06] rapidtrades : GUYS TOO MUCH INFO COPY FINEX
[2016-06-01 01:20:11] rapidtrades : srsly bro?
[2016-06-01 01:20:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: liquidation price is the price you get liquidated at when the *mark price* hits it, not the price of the instrument as determined by orderbook and recent trades
[2016-06-01 01:20:15] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: nice! care to share a screenshot?
[2016-06-01 01:20:40] supermine : rapidtrades: Who asked you for your opinion, TROLL?
[2016-06-01 01:20:41] Rune : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i know
[2016-06-01 01:21:26] Rune : I got liquidated few days ago on accident 0.5 lesson
[2016-06-01 01:21:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: I don't have my original work on it still, but it wasn't that interesting really, just showed unrealised PNL as you'd expect. The issue is it wasn't market independent (yet) and was extremely laggy due to opening another unnecessary socket connection
[2016-06-01 01:21:47] Rune : I knew a uptrend was coming and instead of making money I got liq on to much margin
[2016-06-01 01:22:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: they'll get you with 100x leverage. I wouldn't use anything over 25 and even that is unnecessarily risky
[2016-06-01 01:22:18] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yea I figure, maybe they can give us a "simple interface" for us apple generation and a "advanced interface" for the grey-PC IBM PC Windows Bill Gates Fraction
[2016-06-01 01:22:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : supermine: lol I don't think that's the issue but I would like to see the info differently as well
[2016-06-01 01:22:45] Rune : I use 25 for bitcoin now
[2016-06-01 01:22:53] rapidtrades : why did they remove the leverage used number>
[2016-06-01 01:23:04] supermine : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks anyway good talk. Always think Apple, One Button = Richest Company on earth. Period.
[2016-06-01 01:23:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: It's in the sidebar under Your Position
[2016-06-01 01:23:11] Rune : I do short trades so 100 seemed nice but it just liq me almost instantly
[2016-06-01 01:23:11] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-06-01 01:23:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: Yeah it's just way too risky. Easy to get in over your head with leverage if you're not careful. You could be right about the direction but get liquidated right before it
[2016-06-01 01:24:13] Rune : I did not fully understand how it worked at the time
[2016-06-01 01:25:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: yes it takes some getting used to. good way to make money I guess
[2016-06-01 01:25:37] Rune : the premiums we had plus the high lev got me
[2016-06-01 01:25:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : for BitMEX I mean
[2016-06-01 01:25:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Rune: Ah did you get liquidated on rebalance?
[2016-06-01 01:26:13] rapidtrades : GUYS THIS IS SEMICONDUCTOR CAN YOU REMOVES COLUMNS TO LOOKS LIKE FINEX? KTNXBYE
[2016-06-01 01:26:31] limsta08 : did you change the mobile layout? It is very hard to use.
[2016-06-01 01:26:36] rapidtrades : AND YEA AND I WENT TO OXFORD TNX FOR ASKINGS
[2016-06-01 01:27:14] Rune : I just submitted a trade that looked good but the mark price was closer to the liq price then I thought
[2016-06-01 01:27:40] Rune : because at the time I thought market was bitmex market but obviously it is not
[2016-06-01 01:28:27] Rune : and the market moved down slightly and before I even noticed im liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:29:09] Rune : one thing I did not get
[2016-06-01 01:29:22] Rune : when i got liq it seemed like I lost the enire amount from the trade
[2016-06-01 01:29:32] limsta08 : the new layout, it is very easy to accidently submit the fat finger close market order. very scary.
[2016-06-01 01:29:49] Rune : but it did not add up even at the price it sold at it should have had something left
[2016-06-01 01:32:36] micmix : Rune: all margin allocated to the position is lost when position is liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:32:58] micmix : (assuming you're on isolated margin)
[2016-06-01 01:33:42] Rune : so if you can get the sell off into the market yourself you might save some money
[2016-06-01 01:34:07] Rune : if you get liq you lose everything? even at the same sell prices?
[2016-06-01 01:35:03] micmix : if you are long and the market is above mark price you can close yourself and lose less
[2016-06-01 01:35:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: why do you call supermine semiconductor
[2016-06-01 01:35:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ?
[2016-06-01 01:37:02] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i have my reasons
[2016-06-01 01:37:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: whatever you say
[2016-06-01 01:37:37] rapidtrades : indeed
[2016-06-01 01:40:26] micmix : Rune: there is a margin column in the position table. when you have an open position, you will see something like 1.1 XBT (25x) in the margin column. that how much you will lose when position is liquidated
[2016-06-01 01:41:06] micmix : sorry
[2016-06-01 01:41:22] micmix : worng info
[2016-06-01 01:41:54] micmix : need to get some sleep :smile:
[2016-06-01 01:50:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Can someone confirm that swap positions are rebalanced against the mark price, not the swap market price? So if the market price is at 530 say, but the mark price is at 520, available profit from a short after rebalance would be calculated with mark price?
[2016-06-01 01:53:36] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-06-01 01:54:19] micmix : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yes, last rebalance was at $544.93, market was ~$550
[2016-06-01 01:55:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades, micmix: thanks, and do you remember what was the market at after rebalance?
[2016-06-01 01:55:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *what the market was at
[2016-06-01 01:56:10] micmix : let me check my bot logs
[2016-06-01 01:57:00] micmix : 2016-05-31T12:00:03.352Z BitMEX: filled limit sell order 1000.0000 XBTUSD @ 550.28 id 4359f5cc-0c5c-1b02-4424-b1808806c959
[2016-06-01 01:57:09] micmix : first trade after rebalance
[2016-06-01 01:57:41] micmix : *my bot's first trade
[2016-06-01 01:58:56] whousesthis : How does anyone use this if you can't deposit BTC in the US?
[2016-06-01 01:59:40] Rizky : vpn?
[2016-06-01 01:59:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: Awesome thanks. I was trying to understand the feasibility of this idea, but it seems unlikely to work since there will still be a position to close or liquidate after rebalance which would just eliminate all the profit. https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4j7dh9/why_the_new_xbtusd_swap_on_bitmex_is_a_superior/d3560jg
[2016-06-01 01:59:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : > "If it diverges enough you can profit by opening a position before rebalance and letting it liquidate after."
[2016-06-01 02:00:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : whousesthis: yes, some people here have said that they accessed it from the US with a vpn, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the potential for getting your funds seized if verification (which you wouldn't be able to provide) is requested
[2016-06-01 02:01:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Also someone in here earlier said that their account was limited in some way since they selected US as their country. Don't remember exactly how
[2016-06-01 02:03:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : brb
[2016-06-01 02:06:51] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: We do not accept deposits from US Citizens
[2016-06-01 02:11:03] Rune : someone sell me lisk contracts
[2016-06-01 02:23:51] Rune : BitMEX_Wally: can I get the btc I lost on a liquidation back :(