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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-05-30 22:00:24] supermine : ok and 1 xbt = 1 btc? [2016-05-30 22:00:26] sleger : but HE is lying [2016-05-30 22:00:33] sleger : supermine: yes 1xbt = 1btc [2016-05-30 22:00:36] supermine : then it s less than 600K haha [2016-05-30 22:00:41] sleger : moron [2016-05-30 22:00:44] rapidtrades : idiot [2016-05-30 22:00:44] supermine : but nonetheless I dont care [2016-05-30 22:00:54] rapidtrades : 60k? [2016-05-30 22:00:55] supermine : I was interested in entry / mark price difference [2016-05-30 22:01:16] sleger : not even smart enough to lie properly [2016-05-30 22:01:27] supermine : LoL just when I was about to share my Charts and some knowledge with you guys, you insult me. Bye morons. Your loss. Fools [2016-05-30 22:01:43] rapidtrades : oh no the CHARTS [2016-05-30 22:01:46] rapidtrades : plz come bak [2016-05-30 22:01:47] sleger : shht [2016-05-30 22:01:55] sleger : bye liar [2016-05-30 22:01:55] mrp1nk : -2.6 btc he said [2016-05-30 22:02:05] rapidtrades : ^^^^ [2016-05-30 22:02:15] rapidtrades : so 2.6 per $10 is what [2016-05-30 22:02:29] mrp1nk : dunno, scroll up [2016-05-30 22:02:31] rapidtrades : 100 btc [2016-05-30 22:02:34] supermine : YOu guys from the US? [2016-05-30 22:02:55] rapidtrades : he's long about 55k [2016-05-30 22:03:01] tscha : maybe he misspelled "contracts" and meant 600k = 600 kontracts [2016-05-30 22:03:06] sleger : he isnt he is just lying [2016-05-30 22:03:09] rapidtrades : he is [2016-05-30 22:03:14] supermine : I am lying on purpose [2016-05-30 22:03:16] rapidtrades : definitely is [2016-05-30 22:03:17] supermine : to misguide you [2016-05-30 22:03:23] supermine : this is where I get my kicks from [2016-05-30 22:03:25] supermine : it makes me hard [2016-05-30 22:03:25] rapidtrades : jew has 50k [2016-05-30 22:03:28] sleger : you said you'd go away [2016-05-30 22:03:33] sleger : now is the time [2016-05-30 22:03:42] supermine : I am a jew and it makes me hard to lie to strangers in a trollbox about my money [2016-05-30 22:03:45] supermine : you ghot it [2016-05-30 22:03:50] supermine : congrats smarty pants [2016-05-30 22:04:09] supermine : Got that felt good jerking off to this charade [2016-05-30 22:04:16] rapidtrades : sleger: he's not laying hes just dumb [2016-05-30 22:04:17] supermine : ufff [2016-05-30 22:04:33] supermine : came all over the pic of rapidtrades mum [2016-05-30 22:04:44] supermine : just because for being lying about my dumbness [2016-05-30 22:04:45] rapidtrades : lol [2016-05-30 22:04:51] mrp1nk : hehe [2016-05-30 22:05:32] supermine : I am so stupid that not even your dog would bang me. This is what I do. Go around Trollboxes being dumb about everything to annoy 13-year old penny traders. [2016-05-30 22:05:53] mwalshe99 : hey. im 12 tyvm [2016-05-30 22:07:03] supermine : haha [2016-05-30 22:07:17] supermine : Ok premium at the moment means it is around 1.5 to 2 usd [2016-05-30 22:07:19] rapidtrades : smone definitely held the line at 550....50k is not unreasonable [2016-05-30 22:07:20] supermine : that is huge [2016-05-30 22:07:31] supermine : Finex charges around 0.8 usd spread premium [2016-05-30 22:07:36] supermine : for buy AND sell [2016-05-30 22:07:42] supermine : altogether transaction cost [2016-05-30 22:07:54] supermine : this means we are looking at 0.2% premium at least here [2016-05-30 22:08:03] supermine : no matter what fee schedule tells you [2016-05-30 22:08:09] supermine : this is why I did the tests [2016-05-30 22:08:14] rapidtrades : guy needs glasses too [2016-05-30 22:08:47] supermine : just care for your business please mister [2016-05-30 22:09:09] supermine : can anybody EXCEPT morons or people whose nicks is rapidtrades confirm? [2016-05-30 22:09:25] mwalshe99 : what do you want to know? [2016-05-30 22:09:43] rapidtrades : how big am I? [2016-05-30 22:09:48] rapidtrades : supermine: ask ur mom [2016-05-30 22:10:17] mrp1nk : premium is more like 2% isn't it? [2016-05-30 22:10:22] supermine : 2% lol [2016-05-30 22:10:24] supermine : no man [2016-05-30 22:10:26] supermine : that is too much [2016-05-30 22:10:43] wurstgelee : too stoned to confirm anything. i wont disagree either tho [2016-05-30 22:10:46] mwalshe99 : its just under 2% :/ [2016-05-30 22:10:48] wurstgelee : if that helps [2016-05-30 22:10:49] wurstgelee : :D [2016-05-30 22:10:57] supermine : it does.. [2016-05-30 22:11:01] wurstgelee : youre welcome [2016-05-30 22:11:02] mrp1nk : haha @wurstgelee [2016-05-30 22:11:02] supermine : reminds me to get a beer from the frdige [2016-05-30 22:11:28] supermine : mwalshe99: 2% wouldbe 10 usd price spread at current prices, cant be true????? [2016-05-30 22:11:43] supermine : that would be a instant reason to leave mex [2016-05-30 22:11:49] mwalshe99 : current price is 545, mark price is 536 [2016-05-30 22:12:01] mwalshe99 : it is an insane reason to leave :( [2016-05-30 22:12:03] sleger : cant be true ... lol [2016-05-30 22:12:17] rentchev : supermine premium is not related to any rates [2016-05-30 22:12:19] supermine : I am talking of fees [2016-05-30 22:12:26] supermine : ouch [2016-05-30 22:12:28] rentchev : premium is people willing to pay more [2016-05-30 22:12:31] supermine : I was talking of fees [2016-05-30 22:12:41] mrp1nk : fees are much less [2016-05-30 22:12:49] supermine : ok miscommunicado this [2016-05-30 22:13:02] supermine : fee should be around 0.2% obviously [2016-05-30 22:13:23] supermine : these 7000 limit orders are MM ? [2016-05-30 22:13:36] sleger : this guy sounds like amirmass who got a kindergarten degree [2016-05-30 22:13:49] rentchev : lol [2016-05-30 22:13:49] supermine : Actually I got an Oxfrod degree [2016-05-30 22:14:08] supermine : Oxford .. spelling hard thing lol [2016-05-30 22:14:15] sleger : and you couldnt learn engrish there ? [2016-05-30 22:14:18] supermine : You all U.S. right? [2016-05-30 22:14:25] wurstgelee : nope [2016-05-30 22:14:35] wurstgelee : so much not us [2016-05-30 22:14:38] wurstgelee : =) [2016-05-30 22:14:41] mwalshe99 : what college supermine? [2016-05-30 22:14:41] supermine : Why is U.S. chats are so agressive all the time? [2016-05-30 22:14:50] wurstgelee : its crypto charts [2016-05-30 22:14:58] wurstgelee : chats [2016-05-30 22:15:03] wurstgelee : lanuage doesnt matter [2016-05-30 22:15:05] wurstgelee : language ffs [2016-05-30 22:15:09] supermine : mwalshe99: Rewley [2016-05-30 22:15:10] supermine : you? [2016-05-30 22:15:33] rentchev : supermine: you post a lot of shit that is why people respond to you [2016-05-30 22:15:49] wurstgelee : also its called trollbox for a reason [2016-05-30 22:15:50] supermine : LoL? So questions and Talking equals to shit now? [2016-05-30 22:15:58] supermine : Gives strangers the right to insult strangers? [2016-05-30 22:15:59] supermine : LoL [2016-05-30 22:15:59] wurstgelee : and tbh, trolling belongs to crypto :) [2016-05-30 22:16:02] rentchev : if it's a valid question no [2016-05-30 22:16:11] supermine : your compass of judging needs calibrating dear friend. [2016-05-30 22:16:11] mwalshe99 : didn't goto oxford [2016-05-30 22:16:36] supermine : Q about Entry and Mark is a valid Q [2016-05-30 22:16:56] supermine : mwalshe99: I would like to say its overrated.. but actually its pretty great experience [2016-05-30 22:17:09] mwalshe99 : cool [2016-05-30 22:17:38] supermine : yea.. they are lots of good other unis around world you know.. if you are into learning you have lots of choices.. alternatives [2016-05-30 22:17:57] mwalshe99 : finished learning ages ago. never going back lol :) [2016-05-30 22:18:00] supermine : I know of Unis where people show you the finger when you have questions, like in here [2016-05-30 22:18:08] supermine : Good Unis are differnet [2016-05-30 22:18:10] mwalshe99 : well, not ages, but 6 years ago [2016-05-30 22:18:21] supermine : never going back = sounds like shit experience [2016-05-30 22:18:27] supermine : bad colleagues? bad tutors? [2016-05-30 22:18:33] mwalshe99 : never going back = not needing to go back :/ [2016-05-30 22:18:40] mwalshe99 : done my time [2016-05-30 22:18:46] mwalshe99 : work now [2016-05-30 22:19:38] supermine : I always worked [2016-05-30 22:20:06] supermine : thats maybe why I liked studying.. could apply theory immeaditely [2016-05-30 22:20:18] mwalshe99 : what did you study? [2016-05-30 22:20:19] supermine : I would die if I could not practice immeadietly what I learned [2016-05-30 22:20:23] supermine : CS of course :))))) [2016-05-30 22:20:32] supermine : you? [2016-05-30 22:20:39] mwalshe99 : business enterprise development [2016-05-30 22:20:48] supermine : sounds exciting [2016-05-30 22:20:50] sleger : Master in Bullshitting [2016-05-30 22:20:51] mwalshe99 : meh [2016-05-30 22:20:52] rapidtrades : supermine: CS of course, i can smell the autism [2016-05-30 22:20:55] mwalshe99 : never used it [2016-05-30 22:21:16] supermine : rapidtrades: saying that while typing on a computer is pretty stupid you know that right [2016-05-30 22:21:22] mwalshe99 : rapidtrades you really are a cancer of this chatbox [2016-05-30 22:21:41] rapidtrades : mwalshe99: you'll learn to love me jew [2016-05-30 22:21:50] mwalshe99 : nope [2016-05-30 22:21:53] mwalshe99 : not jewish either [2016-05-30 22:22:19] supermine : Master in Bullshitting lol .. could be.. I learned that people matter, not degrees, not titles, not societys or political parties, but the person sitting next to you on that desk [2016-05-30 22:22:42] mwalshe99 : yup [2016-05-30 22:22:43] mwalshe99 : agreed [2016-05-30 22:22:50] rapidtrades : mwalshe99: that's a shame, i could use a loan at abhorrent high interest rate [2016-05-30 22:22:56] mwalshe99 : degrees and titles help though :) [2016-05-30 22:23:10] supermine : rapidtrades is a gay nazi living out his last days in his private fuhrerbunker in this trollbox. Lets donate to him :) [2016-05-30 22:23:18] supermine : I feel sorry [2016-05-30 22:23:38] mwalshe99 : please dont donate to him, you'll just encourage him [2016-05-30 22:23:44] supermine : sure they help mwalshe99 but many ppl are only careering not really contributing [2016-05-30 22:23:52] supermine : mwalshe99 was JK [2016-05-30 22:23:55] mwalshe99 : welcome to capitalism [2016-05-30 22:24:02] mrp1nk : @mETHheads [Weitergeleitet von Murray @xhoxoxolate] https://www.reddit.com/r/gatecoin/comments/4lfb80/update_launch_of_withdrawal_platform_status_of/ [2016-05-30 22:24:10] charlie : i have a deposit transaction with 2 confirmations, still pending. how many do they wait for here? [2016-05-30 22:24:21] mwalshe99 : 1 [2016-05-30 22:24:31] mwalshe99 : should come through shortly system might just being a bit slow [2016-05-30 22:24:40] charlie : ok thanks [2016-05-30 22:24:43] rapidtrades : refresh? [2016-05-30 22:24:59] charlie : lol there it is [2016-05-30 22:27:01] sleger : havent seen the HONK HONK guy in a while [2016-05-30 22:27:12] supermine : mwalshe99: https://www.presencing.com/theoryu [2016-05-30 22:27:17] justinlooking : who was that? [2016-05-30 22:27:21] supermine : might be interesting for you.. I studied that too [2016-05-30 22:27:38] supermine : MIT [2016-05-30 22:27:41] BitMEX_Sam : > They have been working at limited capacity due to the terminations of two members, who were responsible for the breach [2016-05-30 22:27:46] BitMEX_Sam : That is very interesting re: Gatecoin [2016-05-30 22:27:49] supermine : its an MIT online course [2016-05-30 22:27:58] supermine : "online".. b/c you join local groups [2016-05-30 22:28:05] supermine : @mwalshe99: [2016-05-30 22:28:22] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: insider hack ? [2016-05-30 22:28:27] BitMEX_Sam : Sure seems that way [2016-05-30 22:28:41] mwalshe99 : supermine: looks interesting will give it a read [2016-05-30 22:28:42] mwalshe99 : thanks [2016-05-30 22:29:04] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: technically if arthur and wally wanted they could screw everyone right ? [2016-05-30 22:29:13] supermine : mwalshe99: you're the man +1 [2016-05-30 22:29:15] sleger : or sam and you ? [2016-05-30 22:29:31] BitMEX_Sam : I assume that's true of nearly any business if you could get a majority of partners to participate [2016-05-30 22:29:56] BitMEX_Sam : But yes, that's true, a majority of partners could empty the wallets, but not a single one - as far as I know this is not true at other exchanges [2016-05-30 22:30:39] sleger : yes it is the case for most I know as well [2016-05-30 22:31:13] sleger : but having partners living in reputable countries where they can get serious jail time is much safer for customers [2016-05-30 22:31:31] BitMEX_Sam : HK & the USA are both "reputable countries" [2016-05-30 22:32:08] BitMEX_Sam : Apologies if that's not what you were inferring [2016-05-30 22:33:52] justinlooking : volatility is kill?? [2016-05-30 22:34:21] mwalshe99 : justinlooking: any minute now and were moving again [2016-05-30 22:35:22] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: i was just inferring that, employees of gatecoin or bitmex would be in trouble if they were to do that so that brings some sense of security for customers [2016-05-30 22:35:26] wurstgelee : kill? we had a range of 150 CNY in the last 6h [2016-05-30 22:35:39] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes. [2016-05-30 22:35:54] wurstgelee : or $20 [2016-05-30 22:37:02] mwalshe99 : wurstgelee: i think he means in the last 30-45 minutes. been really quiet [2016-05-30 22:37:55] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: I hope they get jail time if true, that will make other scam exchanges think twice before pulling it off [2016-05-30 22:42:41] charlie : if the estimated liquidation price for a leveraged long is above the mark price how does that work lol? would you be immediately liquidated? [2016-05-30 22:43:21] mwalshe99 : yup [2016-05-30 22:43:39] mwalshe99 : there is a safety mechanism in place though so that doesn't happen. wont let you open the trade [2016-05-30 22:43:56] charlie : daanng, ok cool [2016-05-30 22:51:42] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: is it possible to show commission and funding amounts for each rebalance on the wallet page, not just the total reabalance amount? [2016-05-30 22:52:20] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I'll check with Wally on that [2016-05-30 22:52:52] micmix : thanks [2016-05-30 22:53:09] BitMEX_Sam : The actual funding executions do show in https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory though [2016-05-30 22:56:18] micmix : yes, but I have 10+ pages of trade history per day. I'll have to write some code to fetch it. IMHO funding should be a separate line on the wallet page [2016-05-30 22:57:24] micmix : people should be able to see the daily cost of keeping their positions [2016-05-30 22:59:04] micmix : well maybe it's not a problem for regular traders who make a few trades per day and can see everything on the trade history page [2016-05-30 23:00:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I agree. I'll talk to him about also displaying it there. [2016-05-30 23:00:29] BitMEX_Sam : You can also just click on the word "Funding" to filter by it [2016-05-30 23:02:13] micmix : oh cool, didn't know about that [2016-05-30 23:14:49] mrp1nk : hmmm.. just saw scheduled downtime for a moment. was there any? [2016-05-30 23:16:17] rapidtrades : WHAT [2016-05-30 23:16:33] mrp1nk : could also be my internet connection [2016-05-30 23:16:46] rapidtrades : i have no email as to pertaining such matter [2016-05-30 23:16:47] lockhedge : yes there was a downtime [2016-05-30 23:16:51] rapidtrades : WHT [2016-05-30 23:17:24] mrp1nk : but was short i think [2016-05-30 23:18:28] rapidtrades : short as @supermine s penis [2016-05-30 23:20:10] supermine : rapidtrades: Loosing traders are agressive traders. [2016-05-30 23:20:17] supermine : Speaks volumes [2016-05-30 23:21:22] rapidtrades : supermine: what's ur experience with trading sir CS [2016-05-30 23:24:27] sleger : rapidtrades: like rapid would say, he got long today for the first time, [2016-05-30 23:24:32] sleger : looking at a picture of your mama [2016-05-30 23:26:23] rapidtrades : he looks like another tool buying in a bull market [2016-05-30 23:26:45] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: can't access the API or websocket, getting timeouts [2016-05-30 23:27:00] rapidtrades : thinks he's a genius no doubt, with his oxford GED or whatever [2016-05-30 23:27:06] BitMEX_Sam : Currently? We had a small blip about 25 minutes ago micmix [2016-05-30 23:27:15] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: right now [2016-05-30 23:27:32] micmix : 2016-05-30T23:27:09.719Z BitMEX: Error connecting to websocket: connect ETIMEDOUT [2016-05-30 23:27:46] BitMEX_Sam : Hang on. [2016-05-30 23:31:15] jung1 : sleger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toDA6rZdPfA [2016-05-30 23:31:38] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Still having issues? [2016-05-30 23:33:01] sleger : jung1: is that a new video on some shit new altcoin? [2016-05-30 23:34:16] jung1 : its the celebration dance of nwo group after thay saw your scepticism to new altcoins [2016-05-30 23:35:13] sleger : hmm maybe it was their celebration dance after seeing how much money i made shorting altcoins overall [2016-05-30 23:38:52] supermine : There once was a man called rapidtrades who was very well known for the shortness of his very cock. [2016-05-30 23:39:30] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: all good now, thanks for fixing it [2016-05-30 23:44:02] sleger : "supermine : contract != usd supermine : ok and 1 xbt = 1 btc?" [2016-05-30 23:44:30] sleger : go back to "Oxfrod" [2016-05-31 00:04:42] jung1 : sleger: what you think about time from now to halving? [2016-05-31 00:04:50] jung1 : when will start final pump? [2016-05-31 00:12:54] sleger : i dont have to "think about time" to halving, it is known, it is in 40 days [2016-05-31 00:22:35] PublicUsername : hey folks, I am trying to get my head around the pricing on the usd perpetual swap. Which one am I trading - BitMex index, market or the recent traded price. The spread seems nuts at times. [2016-05-31 00:23:06] Rune : really odd buying all the way up the price [2016-05-31 00:31:16] BitMEX_Arthur : PublicUsername: You buy and sell at the market price of the contract [2016-05-31 00:31:42] BitMEX_Arthur : But your position is marked to the `Mark Price` which is the Kaiko BitMEX Index spot price plus anticipated interest for that day [2016-05-31 00:31:59] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide [2016-05-31 00:32:02] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read that [2016-05-31 00:39:56] PublicUsername : ok, thanks Art [2016-05-31 00:47:33] Rune : here we go [2016-05-31 00:48:39] Rune : you guys ready for this? [2016-05-31 00:52:01] PublicUsername : any chance of bitmex charts in tradeview in the future? [2016-05-31 00:53:17] PublicUsername : * trad [2016-05-31 00:53:27] PublicUsername : trading view [2016-05-31 00:56:12] BitMEX_Arthur : PublicUsername: Yes we are speaking with them to update their symbols for us [2016-05-31 00:58:14] PublicUsername : cool [2016-05-31 01:05:26] aethlios : anyone who shorts swap to receive the interest, you can have daily compound returns if you short every day the daily income, and you will also receive the premium for this daily extra short. [2016-05-31 01:19:29] lockhedge : the first sepa payments sent after friday should arrive in about 3-5 hours at bitstamp, itbit and kraken. ppl will probably buy spot there and sell here and at finex. but the arb with china (buy here, sell there) will maybe have a stronger influence on the BitMEX market price/premium. [2016-05-31 01:27:32] aethlios : Total crypto Market Cap: $ 10,397,870,083, new fiat to the crypto market.... [2016-05-31 02:30:54] zanza : also, early adopters could start cashing out if there have been waiting for an oppertunity [2016-05-31 02:31:08] zanza : look for bitcoin days destroyed spikes [2016-05-31 02:36:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 75 @ 0.02350 [2016-05-31 03:03:23] prospecta : why are is XBT june lagging mark so bad, unusual no? [2016-05-31 03:07:40] sq : how do u guys mark for the futures? [2016-05-31 03:08:00] lockhedge : prospecta: the mark price is a volume weighted mid price on XBTM16, look at the order size at bid and ask [2016-05-31 03:09:41] prospecta : i know what it is [2016-05-31 03:09:46] prospecta : junes dont usually lag [2016-05-31 03:09:59] prospecta : so im wondering why people are so hesistant [2016-05-31 03:27:42] lockhedge : prospecta: very low liquidity on the ask side is responsible for the high fair price. it's not a good indicator now [2016-05-31 04:27:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 230 @ 0.02345 [2016-05-31 06:15:11] laurenssteen : If you sell an order, is that at the marking price ? [2016-05-31 06:22:57] BitMEX_Arthur : laurenssteen: No it is at whatever limit price you specify [2016-05-31 06:23:12] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson1 [2016-05-31 07:04:53] rapidtrades : good morning fellas [2016-05-31 07:57:54] vbmithr : good morning rapid [2016-05-31 08:17:30] vbmithr : happens to be the morning for me to [2016-05-31 09:09:45] Mr Blue : Afternoon traders [2016-05-31 09:10:53] Mr Blue : So I'm new to this exchange, I'm assuming it's vastly different from cryptocurrency exchanges?? Any tips? [2016-05-31 09:13:36] Mr Blue : I don't think company stock goes up 5% that often, compared to Bitcoin going up 100% but I'm willing to have a gamble here once I work things out [2016-05-31 09:15:46] Mr Blue : I can't find a list of stock guys am I missing something? [2016-05-31 09:16:27] Mr Blue : The news post I read said could buy Facebook stock [2016-05-31 09:17:50] Yumi : It was misrepresentation [2016-05-31 09:18:26] Yumi : That's the idea, not reality yet [2016-05-31 09:18:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Mr Blue: that product is something we are working towards [2016-05-31 09:18:47] BitMEX_Arthur : right now Bitcoin, other digital currencies and the China stock market [2016-05-31 09:19:46] Mr Blue : Okay thanks for the info guys, China stock market is that a general thing or can I pick certain companies? [2016-05-31 09:20:38] Mr Blue : China A50? [2016-05-31 09:22:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Mr Blue: yes that is an index of the 50 biggest stocks in China [2016-05-31 09:22:51] jesperf : I love bitmex. the ceo answering questions in the trollbox daily is very confidence-inspiring. it's nice to now see less typos in the weekly digest too ;-) [2016-05-31 09:24:15] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Arthur: thanks does site have a list of the top 50? Or should I just Google foo it when doing due research on the top 50? [2016-05-31 09:24:58] Mr Blue : jesperf: cool, you made profit? [2016-05-31 09:25:40] jesperf : Mr Blue: I made some good profit here and almost lost it all again :P [2016-05-31 09:25:58] BitMEX_Arthur : Google finance XIN9 our index resembles that [2016-05-31 09:26:27] jesperf : it's healthy to always remember that crypto can be very volatile and when the market moves heavily against your bet, you wipe out very quickly [2016-05-31 09:27:09] Mr Blue : jesperf: well that's normally how it goes lol in 2013 I made 100 BTC profit then lost most of it creating an supporting my own currency lol [2016-05-31 09:27:35] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Arthur: cool [2016-05-31 09:33:46] Mr Blue : So I use BTC to bet on an XBT increase? If it's the same as Bitcoin, that's a bet I'll probably take, can you consolidate profits at any point? Or is their a market delay, like wait 24h before seeing if increase or decrease? [2016-05-31 09:34:38] Mr Blue : Sorry about the job questions [2016-05-31 09:34:45] Mr Blue : Noon* [2016-05-31 09:35:22] Mr Blue : Noob* damn Google keyboard [2016-05-31 09:36:41] BitMEX_Arthur : It's a real time market [2016-05-31 09:37:13] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson1 [2016-05-31 09:37:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Check out the help section we have a lot of educational materials [2016-05-31 09:48:02] Mr Blue : I'll check it out @BitMEX_Arthur but as a new user I'd like to give you feedback on how I'm seeing things, I'd rather ETH and LTC in a separate cryptocurrency tab, and see other trade options on the main section, such as a Gold market, or other fun markets you can come up with, I'm not sure if it makes a noise here when a trade happens, but that's a nice feature that keeps users interested, a page out of what makes bad freemium games playable, not sure if I should mention other places, but bleutrade has the feature if Adkins want to see the noise in action, when trades happen [2016-05-31 09:50:30] Mr Blue : Not saying you need help or anything, just giving feedback, anyways guys happy trading, I'll work this place out and hopefully join your community here [2016-05-31 10:35:50] BitMEX_Wally : Mr Blue: You can enable sounds here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences [2016-05-31 10:45:21] BTCDJS : Hey everyone who is reading this. Can you guys all please email trading view and ask them to add Bitmex XBTUSD chart. It would be handy to have it. [2016-05-31 10:46:05] BTCDJS : Bitumen uses three different exchanges all at once for their index [2016-05-31 10:46:18] BTCDJS : bitmex damn autocorrect [2016-05-31 10:47:15] user26 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/YNFnqsN3 [2016-05-31 10:49:30] BTCDJS : thats not Bitmex index though is it? [2016-05-31 10:50:20] BTCDJS : thats kraken [2016-05-31 10:51:08] BTCDJS : user26: Bitmex index uses Finex, 0Kcoin, and bitstamp [2016-05-31 10:52:25] user26 : Then why that is in my dasboard on bitmex? [2016-05-31 10:52:36] Mr Blue : BitMEX_Wally: +1 nice feature [2016-05-31 10:53:01] user26 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD [2016-05-31 10:54:24] BTCDJS : strange. When I try to click that link it doesn't work. When I search for it on trading view its not there [2016-05-31 10:55:29] BTCDJS : is it a regional thing? [2016-05-31 10:56:53] user26 : It's just a screenshot from my dashboard, tradingview is just hosting it [2016-05-31 11:07:56] rapidtrades : guys don't dight [2016-05-31 11:07:58] rapidtrades : fight* [2016-05-31 11:08:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: who's fighting? [2016-05-31 11:09:24] user26 : ? :) [2016-05-31 11:10:00] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey rapid? you got bitmex on your tradingview [2016-05-31 11:10:26] rapidtrades : i don't think so, lemme see [2016-05-31 11:11:45] rapidtrades : nope [2016-05-31 11:11:51] rapidtrades : only kraken [2016-05-31 11:12:01] BTCDJS : yeah me too [2016-05-31 11:12:14] user26 : hmm [2016-05-31 11:13:14] user26 : can i chance the chart from somewhere? [2016-05-31 11:13:48] BTCDJS : what do you mean chance the chart? [2016-05-31 11:14:00] user26 : source of it [2016-05-31 11:14:29] BTCDJS : what bitmex xbtusd? [2016-05-31 11:14:36] user26 : yes [2016-05-31 11:14:57] BTCDJS : nope. Thats why I asked people to email tradingview to ask them to add it [2016-05-31 11:15:26] BTCDJS : or you can only use the one in here [2016-05-31 11:15:44] user26 : what the... maybe it is a regional thing then? [2016-05-31 11:15:48] rapidtrades : the one here sucks tho [2016-05-31 11:16:07] rapidtrades : it lags plus frequently has incorrect prices, doesn't update etc [2016-05-31 11:16:22] rapidtrades : wish they could kill it for good [2016-05-31 11:17:34] BTCDJS : yeah [2016-05-31 11:17:49] BTCDJS : too much going on for it to handle [2016-05-31 11:19:58] BTCDJS : going long just got a bit cheaper [2016-05-31 11:25:03] mrp1nk : sup [2016-05-31 11:25:34] BTCDJS : sup wit the whack playstation sup [2016-05-31 11:30:33] rapidtrades : cmon china let's make this one slow and steady [2016-05-31 11:32:08] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you not short yet? [2016-05-31 11:42:32] rapidtrades : why would i be short... [2016-05-31 11:44:39] BTCDJS : because you're a dwarf [2016-05-31 11:46:25] rapidtrades : that's offensive [2016-05-31 11:46:43] mrp1nk : is see the premium approxl. halved. why this? [2016-05-31 11:47:44] BTCDJS : it happened after that little dump [2016-05-31 11:48:12] mrp1nk : good good. i hope it stays like this [2016-05-31 11:50:25] BTCDJS : mrp1nk: so im not sure if I understand this completely. But if there are a lot of shorts the premium is cheaper for people going long. so as long as everyone is bullish, it is expensive to be long. Is that right? [2016-05-31 11:55:03] mrp1nk : afaik the premium was so high because everyone was so bullish. [2016-05-31 11:56:08] mrp1nk : if i understood it correctly there should be a discount because of the high funding rates [2016-05-31 11:56:08] vbmithr : yeah [2016-05-31 11:56:28] mrp1nk : theoretically [2016-05-31 11:56:31] BTCDJS : so now its starting to tighten up a bit. So that could be an indication that there could be another run UP [2016-05-31 11:56:35] rapidtrades : what will be next day's rate [2016-05-31 11:57:46] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: does that not depend on bulls vs bears? [2016-05-31 11:58:04] rapidtrades : no they take it from finex [2016-05-31 11:58:07] vbmithr : yeah [2016-05-31 11:58:14] vbmithr : you pay the usd rate you get the btc rate [2016-05-31 11:58:17] vbmithr : when you're long [2016-05-31 11:58:28] vbmithr : lending rates from bfx [2016-05-31 11:58:41] BTCDJS : ah [2016-05-31 12:00:16] mrp1nk : assuming that today new money flows to bfx for lending and buying btc, then the rates should decrease (tomorrow). [2016-05-31 12:00:50] rapidtrades : great the premium never came down [2016-05-31 12:00:56] rapidtrades : this is gonna be fun [2016-05-31 12:01:17] rapidtrades : oh this swap is gonna be f fun [2016-05-31 12:01:18] mrp1nk : could you elaborate why? [2016-05-31 12:02:33] rapidtrades : because futures are supposed to follow spot [2016-05-31 12:02:57] rapidtrades : to converge with spot at some point [2016-05-31 12:03:08] rapidtrades : that's not happening here [2016-05-31 12:03:19] sleger : it's not a futures as the name says [2016-05-31 12:03:19] Mr Blue : I think price here is higher I'd like to get in but at $543 lol [2016-05-31 12:03:33] rapidtrades : finex $544 [2016-05-31 12:04:02] dorothy490 : need some healthy dump [2016-05-31 12:04:18] rapidtrades : sleger: :) [2016-05-31 12:04:20] Mr Blue : Google $541.39 [2016-05-31 12:05:34] sleger : i got scared i thought you meant goog stock price [2016-05-31 12:05:42] mrp1nk : me too [2016-05-31 12:06:14] Mr Blue : Google knows best lol their support of Bitcoin in official currencies didn't go unnoticed by me, the corporate elites created Bitcoin in my opinion [2016-05-31 12:06:32] rapidtrades : oh here we go.... [2016-05-31 12:07:21] Mr Blue : rapidtrades: guess you believe in Santa then AKA Satoshi lol [2016-05-31 12:07:46] rapidtrades : why did he add lol at the end..that's not funny [2016-05-31 12:07:53] rapidtrades : that wasn't funny [2016-05-31 12:07:57] rapidtrades : at all... [2016-05-31 12:08:26] sleger : smurfs have different kind of humor [2016-05-31 12:08:43] Mr Blue : My meaning is believing Satosh is a person is like believing in Santa [2016-05-31 12:08:59] Mr Blue : Satoshi* [2016-05-31 12:09:09] rapidtrades : noone cares abour ur ''meaning'' pal [2016-05-31 12:09:33] rapidtrades : your ''meaning'' is worth as much as your net worth [2016-05-31 12:09:35] Mr Blue : And nobody cares about your bullshit trolling [2016-05-31 12:09:36] rapidtrades : zero [2016-05-31 12:11:16] rapidtrades : it's a shame that semiconductor guy didn't get rekt [2016-05-31 12:11:20] Mr Blue : My net worth is zero? Who told you that your retarded mother [2016-05-31 12:23:39] merp : Is there a mod available? [2016-05-31 12:24:17] merp_ : Is there a mod available? [2016-05-31 12:24:30] Mr Blue : Possibly soon, if not message support maybe [2016-05-31 12:29:50] BitMEX_Arthur : merp_: What is your question [2016-05-31 12:35:14] Mr Blue : Maybe to tell me off, but I said what I said lol and have to regrets if you wish to chat ban me for a little sir, but that guy was been arrogant [2016-05-31 12:35:58] Mr Blue : No regrets* [2016-05-31 12:40:36] mrp1nk : Mr Blue: Don't worry, i never seen someone getting banned for offending ppl here. [2016-05-31 12:42:18] Mr Blue : mrp1nk: cool, I do like my freedom of speech in a troll box, but also realise some people can go over the top lol [2016-05-31 12:43:31] Mr Blue : I need to be careful or the lol police will get me ? [2016-05-31 12:45:59] Mr Blue : Bad joke [2016-05-31 12:46:45] Mr Blue : So when Bitcoins push up in value slows, what you guys thinking about Ethereum? [2016-05-31 12:47:47] Mr Blue : I know it has an intimate supply, but short terms seems to have great swings that I've been missing out on [2016-05-31 12:48:02] mrp1nk : (...as long as you don't loudly criticize the mark price vs. order book price you're safe.) ??? [2016-05-31 12:49:07] Mr Blue : Cool [2016-05-31 12:49:32] Mr Blue : Just means this place has more buyers ? [2016-05-31 13:03:17] ScottJ : say I needed to hedge 0.6 BTC against a price rise between now and 24th June, would you recommend using perpetual swap or XBTM16? [2016-05-31 13:06:36] Mr Blue : ScottJ: not sure I'm still a noob to this type of exchange mate, been using perpetual so far my self [2016-05-31 13:08:54] BitMEX_Arthur : ScottJ: The perpetual because it actually locks in a USD value [2016-05-31 13:09:01] BitMEX_Arthur : XBTM16 is not a perfect hedge [2016-05-31 13:09:23] ScottJ : Thanks a lot [2016-05-31 13:09:34] ScottJ : While I have you here Arthur - [2016-05-31 13:10:15] ScottJ : There is a CashRebalance in my Transaction History with a future date on my 'ETHXBT' address [2016-05-31 13:10:27] Yumi : You can hedge X amount of USD not amount of BTC [2016-05-31 13:11:07] ScottJ : Has the amount already been taken from my account, or do I have to have the amount available to cover it on the date specified [2016-05-31 13:15:46] BitMEX_Arthur : No that's your unrealised pnl, that will be realised at rebalance [2016-05-31 13:16:44] ScottJ : Ok, so I don't have to worry about any BTC being taken from future deposits? [2016-05-31 13:17:02] ScottJ : need to do more homework on all this [2016-05-31 13:21:27] BitMEX_Arthur : ScottJ: It is already taken away from you if it is a loss, and withheld from you if it is a profit [2016-05-31 13:21:44] BitMEX_Arthur : So in either case you can't withdraw or re-leverage [2016-05-31 13:21:59] BitMEX_Arthur : Not take from you , but you are not allowed to access it [2016-05-31 13:22:23] ScottJ : Thanks for that. I didn't want something unexpected to mess up my hedge [2016-05-31 13:24:07] sleger : lisk 24 hours turnover 2.6btc, nice... [2016-05-31 13:24:24] daoist : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/LSKBTC/42H2Tqzo-LSK-BREAKDOWN/ [2016-05-31 13:26:33] sq : lol whats that. [2016-05-31 14:12:31] rapidtrades : now only $20 gap with china [2016-05-31 14:13:34] sleger : $$$ [2016-05-31 14:27:46] rapidtrades : btc-e down [2016-05-31 14:43:07] akirabrr : is this website safe guys? [2016-05-31 14:46:13] mrp1nk : imo the mainteners are taking security quite serious, so yes. @akirabrr [2016-05-31 14:47:12] mrp1nk : *maintainers [2016-05-31 14:52:19] arbitrage001 : christmas almost arrive [2016-05-31 14:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30299 @ 537.94 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-05-31 14:54:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3719 @ 536.92 [2016-05-31 14:55:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 500 @ 561.62 [2016-05-31 14:55:15] BitMEX_Sam : That's our primary goal @akirabrr @mrp1nk [2016-05-31 14:56:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 15932 @ 0.02613 [2016-05-31 14:57:10] haxmb : ether rekt? [2016-05-31 14:57:14] haxmb : hahaha [2016-05-31 14:57:39] jesperf : ether is firing its rockets again [2016-05-31 14:57:41] sleger : oh thats a big short for eth [2016-05-31 14:57:44] haxmb : damn son [2016-05-31 14:58:03] sleger : maybe we will see the benefits of having separate insurance fund for eth and btc [2016-05-31 14:58:26] rapidtrades : sleger: did they seperate them? [2016-05-31 14:58:47] sleger : they claimed they are not mixed, without giving more details [2016-05-31 14:59:08] rapidtrades : prolly mixed with the hookers&blow funds [2016-05-31 14:59:10] haxmb : imma need a better price than 2643 to take it out [2016-05-31 14:59:47] haxmb : bitmex algo pushes it up in steps right? [2016-05-31 15:05:45] rapidtrades : the retards here really need to lay off the premium [2016-05-31 15:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 5 @ 0.02611 [2016-05-31 15:07:41] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: There's no premium on any swap contracts today [2016-05-31 15:08:58] mrp1nk : 30299 contracts, is this you oxford guy [2016-05-31 15:09:47] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: there was $3 when i said that [2016-05-31 15:09:57] BitMEX_Sam : Ah [2016-05-31 15:15:49] sleger : 2-3$ discount now :o [2016-05-31 15:16:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 6000 @ 557.33 [2016-05-31 15:17:00] merp : is there a mod available? [2016-05-31 15:17:34] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, what's up merp? [2016-05-31 15:18:54] merp : Im having an issue understanding my balance, as I sent funds, went up in P/L and yet Im getting fucked on a cashrebalance [2016-05-31 15:19:05] merp : I deposited money, and it immediately started rebalancing it. [2016-05-31 15:19:21] BitMEX_Sam : You may have deposited right about the time the daily rebalance went through [2016-05-31 15:19:25] BitMEX_Sam : I can check your account history if you like. [2016-05-31 15:20:04] BitMEX_Sam : I can help you here in the chat box, but if you'd like the details to remain private please let me know and we can continue this over email [2016-05-31 15:21:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 250 @ 554.46 [2016-05-31 15:23:25] rapidtrades : is that semiconductor guy now busto? plz post if ur reading this [2016-05-31 15:23:39] sleger : yesterday's liar ? [2016-05-31 15:24:02] Boontjie : because bitcoin is mis firing [2016-05-31 15:24:19] rapidtrades : plz dial as such https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/hotlines [2016-05-31 15:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 67500 @ 534.50 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2016-05-31 15:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2900 @ 533.23 [2016-05-31 15:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 52 @ 533.16 [2016-05-31 15:37:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 533.04 [2016-05-31 15:37:07] Martinos : d [2016-05-31 15:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 532.66 [2016-05-31 15:37:16] REKT : Next stop - goblin town! [2016-05-31 15:37:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 532.21 [2016-05-31 15:37:55] dorothy490 : Lol why goblin town [2016-05-31 15:38:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 70 @ 531.26 [2016-05-31 15:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1334 @ 530.66 [2016-05-31 15:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2800 @ 530.28 [2016-05-31 15:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22 @ 531.06 [2016-05-31 15:38:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8500 @ 529.64 [2016-05-31 15:39:02] vbmithr : whoops [2016-05-31 15:39:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2800 @ 528.43 [2016-05-31 15:39:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2000 @ 0.02622 [2016-05-31 15:39:22] Martinos : no up? [2016-05-31 15:39:23] rapidtrades : where's the DPE [2016-05-31 15:40:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11000 @ 527.16 [2016-05-31 15:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 111 @ 526.66 [2016-05-31 15:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10063 @ 526.62 [2016-05-31 15:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 525.84 [2016-05-31 15:41:57] vbmithr : Actually you profit by getting liquidated [2016-05-31 15:42:06] vbmithr : since you don't probably pay what you should [2016-05-31 15:42:20] vbmithr : so it seems quite interesting to take huge risks [2016-05-31 15:42:33] sleger : it depends, you are not liquidated when margin = 0 [2016-05-31 15:42:42] vbmithr : when then? [2016-05-31 15:42:52] sleger : its in the specs