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[2016-05-27 02:35:27] miramm1115 : you're right, wrong line :-)
[2016-05-27 02:38:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 45 @ 0.02486
[2016-05-27 02:38:34] rapidtrades : the 4h BTC candle is nuts
[2016-05-27 02:42:33] aethlios : bitfinex orderbook empty
[2016-05-27 02:43:01] rapidtrades : buy side yes
[2016-05-27 02:46:55] rapidtrades : shouldn't my tradable bitfinex balance increase if im in profit?
[2016-05-27 02:47:41] aethlios : rapidtrades: no if you place orders
[2016-05-27 02:48:19] aethlios : rapidtrades: sorry orders don't affect.
[2016-05-27 02:49:54] rapidtrades : still $4 premium for 5 hrs
[2016-05-27 02:50:05] rapidtrades : smone is smoking heavy shit
[2016-05-27 02:51:19] aethlios : next week in 5 dollar prem from zero before
[2016-05-27 02:53:38] rapidtrades : looks like i'll lose on that arb, china rallied too hard
[2016-05-27 02:54:36] rapidtrades : unless okc falls and the premium here stays....which could happen as we get closer to exp
[2016-05-27 02:55:36] j8 : lockhedge called it
[2016-05-27 02:56:14] rapidtrades : j8: actually i called it first
[2016-05-27 02:56:25] rapidtrades : but i had no idea what I was calling :)
[2016-05-27 02:56:55] j8 : he was warning about the btc/cny risk, we were like nah, it's 6 hours
[2016-05-27 02:57:24] sleger : its just an even better opportunity now
[2016-05-27 02:57:42] rapidtrades : im full, can't do antyhing now
[2016-05-27 02:57:45] sleger : and only 5 houts
[2016-05-27 02:57:50] sleger : *hours
[2016-05-27 02:57:52] rapidtrades : had to fill directional longs
[2016-05-27 02:58:35] rapidtrades : guess i could long here some more but that would just be adding on risk
[2016-05-27 03:02:03] rapidtrades : so i see leaderboard went from 500% to 1900%
[2016-05-27 03:02:06] rapidtrades : u give ppl a leaderboard and everyone's going for bragging rights
[2016-05-27 03:02:33] rentchev : what leaderboard?
[2016-05-27 03:03:09] rapidtrades : https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-05-27 03:03:31] rentchev : thanks
[2016-05-27 03:40:35] lockhedge : 1119937 Contracts Open Interest, has it ever been higher on XBT24H/XBTUSD?
[2016-05-27 03:45:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 60 @ 0.02483
[2016-05-27 03:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.02425
[2016-05-27 03:54:42] Rune : poor eth longers
[2016-05-27 03:56:45] aethlios : νιψε ετη αρβ φινεχ πολο
[2016-05-27 03:56:53] aethlios : nice eth arb finex polo
[2016-05-27 03:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 42 @ 0.02413
[2016-05-27 03:58:52] Rune : how are we at 470
[2016-05-27 03:59:31] Rune : it's like 465 on stamp and 467 on finex
[2016-05-27 04:00:18] j8 : that's their problem
[2016-05-27 04:04:54] Rune : man we are so bullish on perp swap
[2016-05-27 04:10:55] lockhedge : part of the bullish order flow imbalance was a >100k liquidation
[2016-05-27 04:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 15 @ 0.02340
[2016-05-27 04:11:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 183 @ 0.02330
[2016-05-27 04:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 185 @ 0.02315
[2016-05-27 04:12:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1048 @ 0.02292
[2016-05-27 04:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 46 @ 0.02268
[2016-05-27 04:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 3960 @ 0.02268
[2016-05-27 04:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.02271 :punch: :whale:
[2016-05-27 04:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 55 @ 0.02259
[2016-05-27 04:15:42] mjones : lol up 166% in my ETH long
[2016-05-27 04:15:50] mjones : 194%
[2016-05-27 04:15:57] mjones : just took 30 seconds
[2016-05-27 04:15:59] SatoshiFX : good morning :-)
[2016-05-27 04:18:57] merp : back short on eth
[2016-05-27 04:19:02] merp : china pumppppen
[2016-05-27 04:23:52] billz : mjones: lol be careful w that
[2016-05-27 04:25:23] mjones : yeah. i closed it but if eth doesnt make a new low i'll be pissed i closed a bottom long
[2016-05-27 04:25:59] mjones : risked a 33x long at 0.02218 and it was filled then bounced
[2016-05-27 04:27:03] lockhedge : premium now again higher than 1%
[2016-05-27 04:27:29] billz : mjones: nice and yeah i'll be pretty pissed too, seems to be holding over 0.023
[2016-05-27 04:30:14] zanza : wtf just jhappened
[2016-05-27 04:30:28] zanza : huge ETH dump ?
[2016-05-27 04:30:33] mjones : china turned the bots lose
[2016-05-27 04:30:38] mjones : loose*
[2016-05-27 04:40:17] zanza : https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/736003148188356608
[2016-05-27 04:47:13] keroub : Hey
[2016-05-27 04:49:50] elmorte : finex ETH at .025 while Polo .024...
[2016-05-27 04:54:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4812 @ 471.96
[2016-05-27 04:55:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 44770 @ 472.31 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-05-27 04:56:10] billz : elmorte: liquidity is worse at finex and alot of manipulation at polo
[2016-05-27 04:56:21] j8 : buy at 472.31.. yeah thats the issue
[2016-05-27 04:56:45] lockhedge : yes
[2016-05-27 04:57:03] elmorte : billz: I managed to sell my stash at finex and buy back at polo
[2016-05-27 04:58:21] billz : elmorte: this is awesome for arbitrage, how long did the transfer take you for ETH? Thought it took me around 15 mins last time i moved some
[2016-05-27 04:58:39] elmorte : Oh, I had some lying around fortunately
[2016-05-27 04:58:48] billz : oh nice
[2016-05-27 04:58:52] elmorte : :)
[2016-05-27 04:59:27] elmorte : Next I gotta figure out how to pull the DAO...I used Jaxx to transfer *sigh*
[2016-05-27 04:59:38] elmorte : pull out*
[2016-05-27 05:00:43] j8 : oh yay we get our DAO!
[2016-05-27 05:01:38] elmorte : If you used MIST, should be no problem....but Jaxx still doesn't have the smart contract support
[2016-05-27 05:01:59] j8 : i used POLO and i'm gonna SELL THEM
[2016-05-27 05:02:14] elmorte : You used POLO? For real?
[2016-05-27 05:02:35] Blargwaffle : Hmm, profit-y.
[2016-05-27 05:02:39] elmorte : To send to daohub or....?
[2016-05-27 05:02:57] j8 : yeah lol, for a small amount cause i couldn't get geth to sync before rates were going up
[2016-05-27 05:03:15] elmorte : Same! Oh but Polo added the support for it, right?
[2016-05-27 05:03:48] j8 : yeah, you could buy the presale through a widget on the site
[2016-05-27 05:03:54] elmorte : Coz I remember that sending from exchange wallets was a no no at first
[2016-05-27 05:03:55] elmorte : Nice one
[2016-05-27 05:07:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10400 @ 475.14
[2016-05-27 05:07:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9141 @ 476.93
[2016-05-27 05:07:53] elmorte : billz: We require 100 confirmations for Ether transactions (about half an hour) That's from finex
[2016-05-27 05:08:05] jung1 : lisk 40k volume
[2016-05-27 05:08:11] jung1 : ftw
[2016-05-27 05:08:39] elmorte : jung1: mah man!
[2016-05-27 05:08:51] mrp1nk : itshappening.gif
[2016-05-27 05:08:58] Blargwaffle : Settle down bitcoin, ror...
[2016-05-27 05:09:16] elmorte : You said I can thank you later...so here I am :)
[2016-05-27 05:09:31] jung1 : I would be not suprised if next days will be similar than eth
[2016-05-27 05:09:42] jung1 : elmorte: hold
[2016-05-27 05:09:45] jung1 : :)
[2016-05-27 05:10:06] elmorte : Oh, I just sold to recoup the investment. The rest I'm hodling like a newborn
[2016-05-27 05:10:43] jung1 : and bitmex gonna add lisk futures in next days
[2016-05-27 05:11:36] lockhedge : in 7 hours
[2016-05-27 05:11:46] jung1 : perfect
[2016-05-27 05:13:42] elmorte : Having an index for swaps is just arbitrary, no?
[2016-05-27 05:13:44] jung1 : I love bitmex. we trade here futures of decentralized autonomus application tokens , prediction markets and networks for blockchain applications. It even sounds like from scifi movie
[2016-05-27 05:14:37] elmorte : I have friends who bet on 3rd Swedish women's league matches...and I thought they were weird
[2016-05-27 05:15:49] jung1 : compared to you they are 100% normal
[2016-05-27 05:17:31] jung1 : elmorte: whats your predictions for lisk price short term?
[2016-05-27 05:20:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 10 @ 0.02390
[2016-05-27 05:21:16] elmorte : I don't feel qualified enough to make the call frankly. I'm thinking 20k swings up and down while slowly edging up towards 150k
[2016-05-27 05:21:58] jung1 : but holidays will be nice this year ; )
[2016-05-27 05:22:15] billz : yeah .001-.002 seems like tops for now until some news or dapps come out
[2016-05-27 05:23:57] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/LSKXBT
[2016-05-27 05:24:22] BitMEX_Wally : Trading starts at 12:00 UTC (in 6.5 hours)
[2016-05-27 05:24:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7200 @ 470.73
[2016-05-27 05:27:07] jung1 : billz: imo lisk will be trade on level between dash and eth
[2016-05-27 05:27:25] jung1 : $10 in this year is not impossible
[2016-05-27 05:29:23] billz : jung1: woah that's ambitious, but probably not impossible in crypto
[2016-05-27 05:30:04] jung1 : lisk has good pr and marketing. If they make it easier for all js devs
[2016-05-27 05:30:10] jung1 : we are on the moon
[2016-05-27 05:30:46] mrp1nk : heading to moon, yea
[2016-05-27 05:31:47] chromaticcr1 : _UCK _BE IN THE A__ TONIGHT!
[2016-05-27 05:32:09] jung1 : yesterday lisk had bigger volume than eth
[2016-05-27 05:32:21] jung1 : on polo
[2016-05-27 05:33:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1200 @ 474.84
[2016-05-27 05:40:16] elmorte : Yeah, massive fomo even with all the hiccups
[2016-05-27 06:00:41] zanza : This is gentlemen
[2016-05-27 06:03:09] Blargwaffle : What is gentlemen?
[2016-05-27 06:08:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 2490 @ 0.00148
[2016-05-27 06:09:07] BitMEX_Wally : 
[2016-05-27 06:09:24] BitMEX_Wally : Blargwaffle: This is gentlemen
[2016-05-27 06:17:09] ayy_lmao : how
[2016-05-27 06:19:10] BitMEX_Wally : Only admins can post images
[2016-05-27 06:19:17] BitMEX_Wally : Because otherwise it leaks IP addresses
[2016-05-27 06:19:32] Blargwaffle : It's a broken image to me, hah.
[2016-05-27 06:33:12] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: yeah! gentlemen's back!
[2016-05-27 06:33:44] PatioCrasher : Damb straight
[2016-05-27 06:34:14] PatioCrasher : Lol when I woke up this morn I was like "Fuck I missed it.. " then logged in and still had a btc long and eth short open
[2016-05-27 06:34:20] PatioCrasher : what a morning boys!
[2016-05-27 06:34:37] PatioCrasher : Gently caress YE!!
[2016-05-27 06:35:53] jung1 : so close them and enjoy your weekend
[2016-05-27 06:36:44] PatioCrasher : Just did. I got the flu so first thing on my shopping list today is a big bottle of codeine
[2016-05-27 06:36:55] PatioCrasher : :)
[2016-05-27 06:37:26] arbitrage001 : raging bull
[2016-05-27 06:37:29] arbitrage001 : moooo
[2016-05-27 06:51:20] jung1 : lisk 0.001 in couple of minutes
[2016-05-27 06:58:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 85054 @ 480.88 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-05-27 06:58:44] ayy_lmao : damn
[2016-05-27 07:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2911 @ 480.36
[2016-05-27 07:03:40] Mangalica : oh wow, leverage much
[2016-05-27 07:05:27] Mangalica : i totally missed this run (meaning i've been just 100% in coin), but now we have totally outrun the bids
[2016-05-27 07:10:16] jung1 : https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/736003148188356608
[2016-05-27 07:10:44] jung1 : someone lost 2mln$ trying to short bitcoin
[2016-05-27 07:12:02] habibi : ~50k $ probally
[2016-05-27 07:14:46] elmorte : wow....that's two liqns of almost 100 XBT each...
[2016-05-27 07:15:02] elmorte : on BitMEX this morning
[2016-05-27 07:15:14] elmorte : Sleger must be spewing....
[2016-05-27 07:16:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 450 @ 478.09
[2016-05-27 07:16:35] rapidtrades : cmon still a premium on okc? it expires in 44 mins
[2016-05-27 07:16:39] rapidtrades : get real whoever u are
[2016-05-27 07:16:47] mrp1nk : lol
[2016-05-27 07:17:10] rapidtrades : glad i didn't add lat night, that spike on quarterly would've taken me out prolly
[2016-05-27 07:20:40] zanza : at least $100k I wouidl say
[2016-05-27 07:22:09] habibi : right, 100k :)
[2016-05-27 07:22:25] rapidtrades : 20,000 contracts, sleger's arb just got shot
[2016-05-27 07:22:38] rapidtrades : he's naked long now
[2016-05-27 07:25:36] haxmb : ouch
[2016-05-27 07:25:42] haxmb : that cant be good
[2016-05-27 07:25:57] haxmb : on bitmex or the woodchippah?
[2016-05-27 07:26:10] rapidtrades : yeah the Generous Muslim will not be so generous from now on :(
[2016-05-27 07:28:05] j8 : i've been waiting 5 hours now for coins from bitfinex. fee is too low and you can't set it
[2016-05-27 07:28:24] rapidtrades : dam that sucks
[2016-05-27 07:29:28] j8 : and my losses on okc are big enough that i can't hedge now without them :)
[2016-05-27 07:30:20] rapidtrades : how long is calc period for okc futures again? 30 mins or 1h
[2016-05-27 07:30:32] miramm1115 : rapidtrades: 1h
[2016-05-27 07:30:42] j8 : 1 hour, like every other time you ask
[2016-05-27 07:31:04] rapidtrades : dam
[2016-05-27 07:32:08] Mangalica : no blocks for almost an hour either
[2016-05-27 07:33:00] j8 : i swear it's a chinese miner conspiracy
[2016-05-27 07:36:23] j8 : someone should make a coin with faster blocks. i bet it would be a real hit
[2016-05-27 07:36:55] Mangalica : good idea, i'll release one in an hour or two
[2016-05-27 07:37:20] j8 : great, more waiting
[2016-05-27 07:37:25] Mangalica : lol
[2016-05-27 07:44:27] miramm1115 : so okc guys saw a juicy short and decided to do a little pump https://twitter.com/whalecalls/status/736003148188356608
[2016-05-27 07:46:00] j8 : would have been juicy up or down, but i like this
[2016-05-27 07:47:36] miramm1115 : I'm not complaining either :smile:
[2016-05-27 07:48:08] rapidtrades : can we know what will be the lending rate for today
[2016-05-27 07:49:58] j8 : looks pretty well stable
[2016-05-27 07:52:30] j8 : you could do a running average of the 1-minute prints of .USDBON and .XBTBON or just eyeball the charts
[2016-05-27 07:53:42] rapidtrades : i prolly took a small loss on that arb
[2016-05-27 07:53:53] rapidtrades : 20-30 cents
[2016-05-27 07:54:05] rapidtrades : not complaining cos im long :)
[2016-05-27 07:54:37] j8 : yeah was around $8 above bitfinex i think
[2016-05-27 08:07:13] BitMEX_Wally : Do you think we need to show the indicative funding rate? You already get 24 hours notice
[2016-05-27 08:08:49] rapidtrades : where's the notice
[2016-05-27 08:09:14] BitMEX_Wally : Funding: 0.0342% in 4 hours
[2016-05-27 08:09:28] BitMEX_Wally : Then later it will say `Funding: 0.?????% in 24 hours`
[2016-05-27 08:10:51] j8 : at 11:59, you still don't know the rate you need to price it at 12:00, unless you add it up yourself
[2016-05-27 08:11:20] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hey the value for BTC in the positions tab is not accurate right
[2016-05-27 08:11:38] rapidtrades : the value at entry is what matters
[2016-05-27 08:11:38] BitMEX_Wally : In what way is it not accurate?
[2016-05-27 08:11:52] rapidtrades : well as we go up the value will decrease
[2016-05-27 08:12:02] BitMEX_Wally : For XBTUSD?
[2016-05-27 08:12:08] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-05-27 08:12:18] BitMEX_Wally : That's correct
[2016-05-27 08:12:35] BitMEX_Wally : XBTUSD contract size is 1 USD, so as the price goes up the XBT notional will go down
[2016-05-27 08:12:40] subjective : What happen to ETH/DAO after 28th if Gatecoin is still down
[2016-05-27 08:15:02] BitMEX_Arthur : subjective: The underlying price will come from Poloniex
[2016-05-27 08:15:21] subjective : great,
[2016-05-27 08:15:35] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.DAOETH2H
[2016-05-27 08:16:16] BitMEX_Wally : We've already updated the index, it looks at the BTC_DAO and BTC_ETH price and calculates the implied ETH_DAO
[2016-05-27 08:17:20] BitMEX_Wally : `The DAOETH futures contract, will expire on 24 June 2016 based on the implied DAO/ETH exchange rate on Poloniex.`
[2016-05-27 08:20:39] subjective : Polo saying they are adding DAOBTC, considering DAOETH still
[2016-05-27 08:21:18] BitMEX_Arthur : We will interpolate a DAOETH price from DAOXBT and ETHXBT if there is no direct DAOETH
[2016-05-27 08:21:29] BitMEX_Arthur : Jinx
[2016-05-27 08:22:50] subjective : Thx arther
[2016-05-27 08:38:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1080 @ 473.93
[2016-05-27 08:41:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2300 @ 472.57
[2016-05-27 08:42:24] rapidtrades : so much for those tight spreads :)
[2016-05-27 08:44:39] ethexio : Whee
[2016-05-27 08:57:27] rapidtrades : $500 before holiday weekend is over imo
[2016-05-27 08:58:58] rapidtrades : i overshoot my risk target by 12% but not worried
[2016-05-27 09:00:13] blackwhite : so moon cancels, right?
[2016-05-27 09:00:40] blackwhite : who did this spike up today?
[2016-05-27 09:00:54] blackwhite : somebody who wanted a good settleement?
[2016-05-27 09:03:29] rapidtrades : some rich jew
[2016-05-27 09:03:46] j8 : are you sure they weren't chinese?
[2016-05-27 09:04:46] rapidtrades : ofc they were chinese but their religion was jewish
[2016-05-27 09:04:55] rapidtrades : j8: don't be so xenophobic
[2016-05-27 09:05:03] tscha : why is all the action always when I'm sleeping :-(
[2016-05-27 09:05:28] j8 : rapidtrades: how do you know i'm not a chinese jew
[2016-05-27 09:06:31] rapidtrades : fair point
[2016-05-27 09:07:01] micmix : hey tscha, you don't have alarms for that?
[2016-05-27 09:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 500 @ 0.02455
[2016-05-27 09:20:53] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: kraken is launching DAO_ETH
[2016-05-27 09:38:13] tscha : micmix: No, but only trading very small amounts at the moment . Don't have much free time currently.
[2016-05-27 09:39:01] micmix : tscha: are you planning to get back to it at some point?
[2016-05-27 09:40:29] tscha : micmix: yes, in summer when my current project is finished. Going to get my bots back online and trade other markets as well. Will actually try to go all-in and do it fulltime
[2016-05-27 09:41:00] micmix : full time, nice!
[2016-05-27 09:41:33] jung1 : tscha: you do it by your own or with someone?
[2016-05-27 09:41:42] tscha : by my own
[2016-05-27 09:42:59] tscha : will probably take me 1-2 months to rewrite everything... my old system was very ungeneric, which made it hard to scale and deploy it at other markets
[2016-05-27 09:44:29] micmix : yeah, it usually happens this way, takes couple of re-designs to make a modular and scalable system
[2016-05-27 09:47:33] tscha : Furthermore, I didn't use proper databases to store the market data myself (orderbook changes). So that alone is going to take some time I guess.
[2016-05-27 09:48:30] jung1 : https://www.kraken.com/img/kraken-dao.jpg
[2016-05-27 09:48:30] tscha : let's see if it works out
[2016-05-27 09:49:32] elmorte : Mist syncing takes f'n forever....
[2016-05-27 09:57:47] rapidtrades : u guys host the bots on clouds or
[2016-05-27 09:59:08] micmix : rapidtrades: yes, amazon and microsoft
[2016-05-27 10:02:49] j8 : yes finally got confirmations.. 7.5 hours
[2016-05-27 10:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 201 @ 0.02400
[2016-05-27 10:20:07] rapidtrades : micmix: two at the same time for backup or how does that work
[2016-05-27 10:32:47] mrp1nk : haha, again
[2016-05-27 10:32:50] mrp1nk : Your session has reached its maximum length of 24 hours. You will be logged out soon. You may manually extend your session by logging out and back in.
[2016-05-27 10:33:37] mrp1nk : seems it is less if you are logged in on two different machines
[2016-05-27 10:35:20] mrp1nk : not sure if bug or feature
[2016-05-27 10:54:21] BitMEX_Wally : mrp1nk: it's a security feature
[2016-05-27 10:54:30] BitMEX_Wally : You can use Clef if you want no timeout
[2016-05-27 11:02:43] mrp1nk : yeah, i know. just saying that it's even less than 24h if you're logged in at another computer too
[2016-05-27 11:21:13] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: no more banner on top when there is a pending withdrawal ?
[2016-05-27 11:48:55] rapidtrades : so there's no point in exiting before recalc?
[2016-05-27 11:49:09] rapidtrades : cos prices will prolly stay at premium
[2016-05-27 11:56:15] j8 : the index weights adjust today. shouldn't be much different
[2016-05-27 11:57:22] sleger : no admin here around "settlement" ?
[2016-05-27 11:58:18] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: what's up?
[2016-05-27 11:59:26] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: no more banner on top when there is a pending withdrawal ?
[2016-05-27 11:59:40] BitMEX_Wally : Let me ask BitMEX_Sam
[2016-05-27 12:03:36] BitMEX_Sam : LSKXBT is live
[2016-05-27 12:03:58] BitMEX_Sam : As for that banner I'll take a look sleger.
[2016-05-27 12:05:36] mjones : good just in time to short this 2 day pump and dump
[2016-05-27 12:09:04] sebaas : hehe
[2016-05-27 12:12:45] mrp1nk : someone took your advice :-)
[2016-05-27 12:19:22] mrp1nk : maybe not the best idea given that lisk is sitting right at a support level
[2016-05-27 12:24:22] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: do you see a pending withdrawal from me at least ?
[2016-05-27 12:28:57] 1QaZxSw2 : under recent trades, what time zone does it use?
[2016-05-27 12:29:17] 1QaZxSw2 : user's time?
[2016-05-27 12:30:09] 1QaZxSw2 : all time is utc, i see
[2016-05-27 12:33:35] sleger : no its user time
[2016-05-27 12:34:22] j8 : maybe you live in utc
[2016-05-27 12:40:55] sleger : china is on fire
[2016-05-27 12:41:46] arbitrage001 : sleger: yup
[2016-05-27 12:41:58] arbitrage001 : already hit 500 usd in rmb
[2016-05-27 12:42:16] S410520 : standing by for first REKT - LSK messages :p
[2016-05-27 12:45:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 37900 @ 479.06 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-05-27 12:46:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2500 @ 480.24
[2016-05-27 12:47:36] sleger : btw, all these rekt cost money to the insurance fund because marking price is inaccurate
[2016-05-27 12:50:00] j8 : yep.
[2016-05-27 12:54:23] j8 : could see over a million contracts liquidated at a price no one wants to trade at
[2016-05-27 12:55:34] sleger : should have daily rebalancing + marked to market
[2016-05-27 13:00:36] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: do you see my pending withdrawal ?
[2016-05-27 13:03:57] BitMEX_Sam : Yes sleger, if it is confirmed by email it is confirmed
[2016-05-27 13:04:30] BitMEX_Sam : It is also in your transaction history at https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-05-27 13:05:50] sleger : yes I did see it, but since there was no banner as it used to, wanted someone to confirm
[2016-05-27 13:06:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you received both a confirmation email and a confirmation on your wallet page
[2016-05-27 13:07:26] sleger : someone screwed up on lisk
[2016-05-27 13:09:29] mrp1nk : lol
[2016-05-27 13:11:56] j8 : now the liquidation has repriced lower, i guess it doesn't want to get filled
[2016-05-27 13:12:50] sleger : it's a prop trading algo using the insurance fund maybe ?
[2016-05-27 13:12:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 20 @ 0.02221
[2016-05-27 13:15:39] amahte : hmm
[2016-05-27 13:15:46] amahte : this is a wierd day
[2016-05-27 13:19:12] CarlT : Hi BitMEX_Sam: when are BTC withdrawalls processed? Waiting from yesterday already.
[2016-05-27 13:22:13] ca : Yes amahte IT is
[2016-05-27 13:22:15] BitMEX_Wally : CarlT: Your withdrawal has 3 block confirmations already
[2016-05-27 13:22:50] CarlT : oh, that's great. Thanks!
[2016-05-27 13:31:02] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Do I need to disable 2FA to enable Clef?
[2016-05-27 13:31:19] BitMEX_Wally : Log into your account and then switch 2FA to Clef
[2016-05-27 13:31:25] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: Yes - you have to disable first
[2016-05-27 13:31:53] elmorte : Cheers
[2016-05-27 13:32:08] elmorte : You can't have either or?
[2016-05-27 13:32:59] BitMEX_Sam : You can't have both at the same time
[2016-05-27 13:34:16] elmorte : K :(
[2016-05-27 14:01:07] Juba : can any1 explain what happens when you reach 1000% profit?
[2016-05-27 14:01:47] j8 : you do a dance
[2016-05-27 14:02:06] Juba : hehe
[2016-05-27 14:16:17] GingerDan : I'm confused. I have a limit sell order at a higher price than the market price, but the 'Order Value' is lower then the current market value
[2016-05-27 14:17:21] BitMEX_Wally : Order value is calculated using the order limit price
[2016-05-27 14:17:45] GingerDan : MY limit order price right?
[2016-05-27 14:17:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-05-27 14:18:45] BitMEX_Wally : Once the order has been executed, your position value is the current notional value using the mark price
[2016-05-27 14:19:35] BitMEX_Wally : The XBTUSD contract size is 1 USD, so the higher the price, the smaller the Bitcoin notion lvalue
[2016-05-27 14:21:34] GingerDan : Ohhh okay, so the USD value would actualy be more, but the XBT value us lower because the XBT to USD rate decreases?
[2016-05-27 14:21:37] GingerDan : am I right?
[2016-05-27 14:26:26] BitMEX_Wally : GingerDan: The exact formulas are here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/futuresContractFormulas
[2016-05-27 14:26:43] BitMEX_Wally : `XBTUSD` is part of the `XBU Chain`
[2016-05-27 15:28:32] amahte : buy za di p?
[2016-05-27 15:29:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 52 @ 0.02286
[2016-05-27 15:41:00] 1QaZxSw2 : is the purple line on the chart the mark price?
[2016-05-27 15:43:19] BitMEX_Sam : 1QaZxSw2: It's the index price, which is very close to the mark price on most contracts
[2016-05-27 15:44:01] 1QaZxSw2 : thanks. Also, is there an index feed i can subscribe to if i want to write a bot
[2016-05-27 15:44:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yes - https://www.bitmex.com/app/wsAPI
[2016-05-27 15:44:23] BitMEX_Sam : You can subscribe to any datasource
[2016-05-27 15:45:09] BitMEX_Sam : All BitMEX data is available through the websocket
[2016-05-27 15:45:36] 1QaZxSw2 : great, thanks
[2016-05-27 16:05:07] BombaUcigasa : DAT KAIKO INDEX THOUGH
[2016-05-27 16:28:55] KyllingLolsson : How do i reset chart from mobile? Want it clean from indicators
[2016-05-27 16:57:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9513 @ 477.36
[2016-05-27 19:26:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.02321
[2016-05-27 20:35:16] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you there?
[2016-05-27 20:35:59] foxie : does anyone know of a good guide to help leverage LISK?
[2016-05-27 20:37:53] BTCDJS : foxie: lisk is new. i would say that is a guide
[2016-05-27 20:38:13] BTCDJS : and buy low
[2016-05-27 20:38:32] foxie : ? new to all this getting a bit lost?
[2016-05-27 20:38:52] BTCDJS : list just launched
[2016-05-27 20:39:05] BTCDJS : so there is nothing to go by
[2016-05-27 20:40:09] BTCDJS : it launched two days ago. there is no past price to trade from.
[2016-05-27 20:40:51] BTCDJS : basically your belief in the tech is you only guide, along with the hype
[2016-05-27 20:41:03] foxie : i see so at the moment its been on a steady decline over the day now dropped again more sharply - bought in at about .00030 sold at .00080 n put a stop buy in at .00077 should i be doing anything else pls?
[2016-05-27 20:41:22] foxie : + have a lot of faith in tech thanks
[2016-05-27 20:42:35] BTCDJS : ok so your faith in tech is fine. but trading here on leverage means you believe its worth a lot right now.
[2016-05-27 20:43:02] BTCDJS : what if it takes a while for tech to be recognised?
[2016-05-27 20:43:32] BTCDJS : everyone dumped at after launch
[2016-05-27 20:43:51] BTCDJS : may be a while before next pump
[2016-05-27 20:44:06] foxie : well i think they will do pretty good in next few months seems like there is alot of money in there at the mo not sure how much they justify current amount
[2016-05-27 20:45:51] BTCDJS : so then buy at spot. leverage swings wildly and could cost you. unless you believe pump is imminent now, you'll be waisting your tim
[2016-05-27 20:46:26] BTCDJS : but if you buy list on spot and hold for a few months you will benifit
[2016-05-27 20:47:04] foxie : r ok think i see thanks
[2016-05-27 20:47:42] foxie : so what is the difference with bitmex to say poloniex?
[2016-05-27 20:48:29] BTCDJS : yeah margin is risky. you could lose what you put in if price moves against you. but if you buy on spot and hold it could pay offf
[2016-05-27 20:48:41] BTCDJS : polo is spot
[2016-05-27 20:50:42] BTCDJS : i bought some LSK on polo and I'm holding for price to move. i would only trade here if i believed price will pump immediately
[2016-05-27 20:51:57] foxie : right got it now thank you
[2016-05-27 20:54:13] foxie : so now the price drops are likely to panic selling - wont really have a price hike til pump?
[2016-05-27 20:54:44] BTCDJS : some trading knowledge tied with TA would prompt me to go long or short any token here. i would have to make sure i manage to buy the low or the high depending on my position. for instance. I'm only here to long BTC. Im waiting to see if i can enter at the lowest BTC price so I don't get caught out.
[2016-05-27 20:57:40] BTCDJS : don't over think it. panic selling? you don't know if thats whats happening. Its just an assumption. i personally think LSK is doing what any ICO does after launch. while its cheap. just buy some and wait if you believe it will be worth a lot in a few months
[2016-05-27 20:58:41] BTCDJS : but if you believe it will pump right now then trade it here
[2016-05-27 20:59:33] BTCDJS : foxie: you been trading a while or you new?
[2016-05-27 20:59:54] foxie : pretty new
[2016-05-27 21:00:12] BTCDJS : me too really.
[2016-05-27 21:00:22] BTCDJS : been at it for 3 years
[2016-05-27 21:00:33] BTCDJS : lost a lot of money here
[2016-05-27 21:00:56] foxie : right. so always a newbie in this game??
[2016-05-27 21:01:03] BTCDJS : but I'm starting to understand
[2016-05-27 21:01:20] BTCDJS : well...
[2016-05-27 21:01:45] BTCDJS : wisdom is knowing you're always learning
[2016-05-27 21:03:05] BTCDJS : and success comes from making mistakes and struggling and failing over and over until you dont
[2016-05-27 21:04:01] BTCDJS : well you do. but you'll know when you get better. cos your making profit
[2016-05-27 21:06:57] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: wtf...3 yrs? aren't u the roofer guy
[2016-05-27 21:07:11] rapidtrades : didn't u say u were new
[2016-05-27 21:07:46] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: 1 year on bitmex. 3 years in crypto
[2016-05-27 21:08:03] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-05-27 21:08:07] rapidtrades : 3 yrs doing what
[2016-05-27 21:08:27] BTCDJS : bought START
[2016-05-27 21:08:38] BTCDJS : made 4X profit
[2016-05-27 21:08:50] BTCDJS : changed it to bitcoin
[2016-05-27 21:09:04] BTCDJS : then got the bug for making profit
[2016-05-27 21:09:26] rapidtrades : so u were up overall before u started trading?
[2016-05-27 21:09:33] BTCDJS : tried trading alts on SHAPESHIFT
[2016-05-27 21:09:49] BTCDJS : failed a little
[2016-05-27 21:10:04] BTCDJS : then opened accounts on exchanges
[2016-05-27 21:10:28] BTCDJS : then tried to learn TA
[2016-05-27 21:10:44] BTCDJS : took out a loan
[2016-05-27 21:10:51] BTCDJS : bought B|T|C
[2016-05-27 21:10:51] rapidtrades : u idiot
[2016-05-27 21:11:05] BTCDJS : made double what i had
[2016-05-27 21:11:18] rapidtrades : still a dumb thing to do
[2016-05-27 21:11:18] BTCDJS : traded it on Bitmex
[2016-05-27 21:11:34] BTCDJS : invested some in augur
[2016-05-27 21:11:35] rapidtrades : oh we're finally nearing today
[2016-05-27 21:11:37] rapidtrades : good
[2016-05-27 21:12:10] rapidtrades : well if ur up overall its still a success
[2016-05-27 21:12:18] BTCDJS : and after all mistakes made, learned something
[2016-05-27 21:12:30] rapidtrades : u take too much risk
[2016-05-27 21:12:35] BTCDJS : now, time will tell
[2016-05-27 21:12:55] BTCDJS : correct
[2016-05-27 21:13:23] rapidtrades : u need to work on that, ppl like u dont' make it in this business
[2016-05-27 21:14:01] BTCDJS : yeah. Trading teaches you about your ego if you're open
[2016-05-27 21:14:16] BTCDJS : luckily im open
[2016-05-27 21:15:39] Rune : damn I missed all the lisk action
[2016-05-27 21:16:13] rapidtrades : slept 3 hrs today
[2016-05-27 21:16:42] rapidtrades : time to make it up i think
[2016-05-27 21:17:29] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: think we will see 460 again?
[2016-05-27 21:17:47] rapidtrades : in our lifetimes? lol
[2016-05-27 21:18:17] BTCDJS : before moon. but ok. funny
[2016-05-27 21:18:43] rapidtrades : prolly not...there may not be a moon if we drop that low again
[2016-05-27 21:19:45] BTCDJS : 460 is not that low. 450 i could understand
[2016-05-27 21:21:07] rapidtrades : we'll see....if this move is again cause by ETH, we could see another reversal
[2016-05-27 21:21:50] rapidtrades : looks like its the legit halvening pump tho
[2016-05-27 21:23:27] BTCDJS : because of the clear break above 470? Ive moved my triangle three times. what if this is just another one?
[2016-05-27 21:24:03] rapidtrades : we hit $485 on okc
[2016-05-27 21:24:09] rapidtrades : china is close to 500
[2016-05-27 21:24:16] BTCDJS : hmmm
[2016-05-27 21:24:53] rapidtrades : 496.50 right now
[2016-05-27 21:24:58] BTCDJS : seems legit
[2016-05-27 21:25:30] rapidtrades : not sure why US is lagging but they better get their butts ready
[2016-05-27 21:25:38] BTCDJS : i hope this is the low
[2016-05-27 21:29:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1200 @ 0.02301
[2016-05-27 21:47:39] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: reflecting, I would say you've been invaluable in my progression. as well as sleger. even though you never meant to teach. You guys did.
[2016-05-27 21:48:33] BTCDJS : I'm feeling a bit touchy feely cos I'm drunk. but its the truth
[2016-05-27 21:49:04] mrp1nk : don't drink and trade bro
[2016-05-27 21:49:10] BTCDJS : lo;l
[2016-05-27 21:49:26] BTCDJS : i opened a position sober
[2016-05-27 21:49:34] BTCDJS : does that count?
[2016-05-27 21:50:24] mrp1nk : sure, if you hodl
[2016-05-27 21:50:37] BTCDJS : well I'm in the green
[2016-05-27 21:51:07] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: tnx man :)
[2016-05-27 21:51:45] rapidtrades : i like chatting with u cos u seem very humble and willing to learn
[2016-05-27 21:53:22] BTCDJS : yeah i mean to succeed. not just be a degenerate gambler. I'm glad i come across that way. It means I'm on the right track.
[2016-05-27 21:58:00] rapidtrades : yeah looks like it...keep at it, gets easier after the first few years :)
[2016-05-27 22:01:36] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: thanks. will keep that in mind. though failure means one step closer to success for me.
[2016-05-27 22:01:56] BTCDJS : not to sound like a wise ass
[2016-05-27 22:02:10] BTCDJS : but i see mistakes as a teacher
[2016-05-27 22:02:48] BTCDJS : instead of a negative crippling thing
[2016-05-27 22:03:08] BTCDJS : Hard life teachings maybe
[2016-05-27 22:04:12] rapidtrades : okc back at 480
[2016-05-27 22:06:28] rapidtrades : gonna catch some zzzs, looks like china wants to play again tonight
[2016-05-27 22:08:26] BTCDJS : not be long before i catch some zzzz. nearly midnight in the uk. would love to wake up to 490 tomorrow
[2016-05-27 22:59:58] rapidtrades : so weird....finex 473, okc 480 china 500
[2016-05-27 23:01:11] rapidtrades : doesn't make any sense to me
[2016-05-27 23:01:25] rapidtrades : US traders broke from longing eth?
[2016-05-27 23:01:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 295 @ 0.00939
[2016-05-27 23:15:52] lockhedge : rapidtrades: more volatility is expected in USD/CNY, we actually only did see a premium in the last 3 month when USD was devaluing against the Yuan http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-19/offshore-yuan-falls-most-since-january-as-fed-woes-return-chart
[2016-05-27 23:16:31] lockhedge : *we didn't see a premium when USD was devaluing...
[2016-05-27 23:16:45] rapidtrades : cmon $20 is way too big
[2016-05-27 23:16:57] rapidtrades : btw im long usd/cny too :)
[2016-05-27 23:17:42] rapidtrades : the last time we had premium so big was after china actually devalued back in August
[2016-05-27 23:18:01] rapidtrades : now PBOC does nothing and we're spiking higher
[2016-05-27 23:18:46] rapidtrades : $20 is 4%
[2016-05-27 23:19:28] rapidtrades : ur analysis is correct but the magnitude of the premium is puzzling
[2016-05-27 23:33:55] ram : eth at 236
[2016-05-27 23:51:35] amahte : market maker is drunk
[2016-05-27 23:53:05] lockhedge : rapidtrades: it may become a longer lasting trend again, but part of it is a short term premium bubble. you currently have high transaction costs for arbitrage after the jump (wider spreads, lower liquidity) + higher risk for arb trades because of bitcoin volatility, independent from specific cny volatility. another more temporary factor: it takes some days to settle fiat transfers for spot arb traders.
[2016-05-28 00:00:38] sleger : lockhedge: chinese can convert "easily" large sums from cny to usd by paying 0.5-1% premium, this 4% premium wont last long term as people start to arb it
[2016-05-28 00:01:38] rapidtrades : we'll see....last night we all jumped on the ''free money''
[2016-05-28 00:01:46] rapidtrades : turned out to not be so free :)
[2016-05-28 00:02:21] rapidtrades : PBOC could've alerted their friends that they're going to devalue again
[2016-05-28 00:02:41] rapidtrades : not a likely scenario but certainly possible
[2016-05-28 00:33:43] lockhedge : sleger: it won't stay at 4% forever, but it can take some time and it could even climb to 8% before it falls. it will mainly depend on if there's a good market environment for arb traders (low volatility, high liquidity)
[2016-05-28 00:46:20] sleger : if you dont want to make money dont take the trade ;)
[2016-05-28 00:51:49] lockhedge : sleger: is there any other way than shorting okc futures if you can't trade cny spot? would be interesting to have a cny premium instrument (or a XBT/CNY market) here.
[2016-05-28 00:53:12] sleger : 796, bitvc
[2016-05-28 00:53:54] sleger : also im sure you can find a way to find a broker to trade usd/cny on margin (non deliverable)
[2016-05-28 00:55:18] huangyong : 管理员，建议开通bitmex站内，2个账号之间的自助互相转账的功能，这个功能还是有需求的！
[2016-05-28 00:59:05] Rune : cant read chinese
[2016-05-28 01:05:15] sleger : and he cant read engrish
[2016-05-28 01:06:05] JilanMen : hello. I am new on this plateform. How to close a position ?
[2016-05-28 01:06:41] lockhedge : sleger: thanks, didn't know that bitvc had an english site. don't plan to start arb trading because counterparty risk is too high for the small return
[2016-05-28 01:06:43] sleger : unopen it
[2016-05-28 01:06:52] sleger : JilanMen:
[2016-05-28 01:07:09] lockhedge : JilanMen: sell if you are long, buy if you are short
[2016-05-28 01:07:24] sleger : lockhedge: you think hu0bi is more risky than 0kcoin ?
[2016-05-28 01:07:27] JilanMen : thanks
[2016-05-28 01:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 200 @ 0.02263
[2016-05-28 01:11:54] lockhedge : sleger: can't say where it's more risky but using two risky counterparties for one arb trade is definitely a much higher risk than trading both sides at one relatively secure platform like BitMEX, so maybe it would be a good idea to let people trade XBT/CNY here as well
[2016-05-28 01:14:09] sleger : sure, but right now you cant do that, and I thought you mentioned 0kc earlier hence my question
[2016-05-28 01:16:32] lockhedge : sleger: would you bring volume from okc to bitmex if you could trade a XBT/CNY swap here?
[2016-05-28 01:18:20] sleger : i dont do that much volume with those trades cause I take a 1k btc position and close it about once a month max
[2016-05-28 01:20:23] lockhedge : so here it's mainly market making as well?
[2016-05-28 01:21:37] sleger : i do different things here
[2016-05-28 01:39:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 47800 @ 478.09 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-05-28 01:47:20] mjones : lol dat short
[2016-05-28 01:48:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 934 @ 0.02230
[2016-05-28 01:48:47] sleger : mjones: dont laugh, all these liq can cost money, the one you're laughing at is still sitting on the book
[2016-05-28 01:49:20] lockhedge : 44750@479.60
[2016-05-28 01:50:05] sleger : i dont know if any admin is here, but this mark price on swap is wrong, one day it will cause a huge dpe, and everyone will run away
[2016-05-28 01:52:50] j8 : i've been saying the same thing since before it launched, they seem to want to wait until something bad happens
[2016-05-28 01:52:52] lockhedge : agree with sleger, we should move to impact mid price and daily rebalance based on spot (worked for XBT24H very well)
[2016-05-28 01:53:39] sleger : the liquidity is large there is 0 justification that makes any sense to keep the current system, and these liq orders stuck there, not even chasing the market, is gambling the insurance fund money