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[2015-07-28 19:22:32] splash : If I owned an exchange like yours, I would profile it to fit the new wave of speculate mania.
[2015-07-28 19:22:57] splash : do i make sense, or am I a mad man raving?
[2015-07-28 19:24:50] BitMEX_Sam : You make sense, and we will list alts, the issue is that so many of them don't trade in volume or won't make it past the next year or two
[2015-07-28 19:24:54] BitMEX_Sam : It's difficult to tell which is which.
[2015-07-28 19:27:00] splash : lol, i dont envy you having to make this decision
[2015-07-28 19:27:22] BitMEX_Sam : LTC seems like an obvious choice. Beyond that, it's up to what the markets will truly bear
[2015-07-28 19:29:28] splash : since im heavily promoting ppc here I got to chip in with the little info i have: im certain that peercoins will be alive in a few years becayse of PoS it can withstand low prices because no energy is required to run expencive mining oprations. low prices happens to be good for PoS to get wide coin distribution. the last years Ive been in contact with lead devs... they always responds within a week. thats the reason im willing to risk my money on it.
[2015-07-28 19:30:57] splash : my bet is that whenever the "mining centralization" discussion emerges for real... PoS coins will be touted as a plausible solution and peercoin was first.
[2015-07-28 19:31:00] BitMEX_Sam : It's a good sign when a coin has passionate devs
[2015-07-28 19:31:18] BitMEX_Sam : I agree re: mining centralization, we just have yet to see the consequences of it
[2015-07-28 19:32:17] splash : indeed
[2015-07-28 19:34:26] splash : I made a big bet that its coming to the lime lite someday. I dont know.. maybe its not a problem, but if bitcoin mining gets corned by some big entity like goldman sax or god knows who... that's when my bet might pay of. its a long shot, but the risk reward ratio is pretty f-g fantastic
[2015-07-28 19:34:46] splash : my bet on btc bigger though :)
[2015-07-28 19:41:21] BitMEX_Sam : Same. I'm sure there will be a few alts that do well in the coming years, and if you can predict it, there's a lot of $ in the cards
[2015-07-28 19:41:29] BitMEX_Sam : Or perhaps &btc;, that is
[2015-07-28 19:45:02] BitMEX_Sam : Been spending some time on http://coinorama.net/, really nice site
[2015-07-28 19:45:23] BitMEX_Sam : Notice the lag spike at 08:00 CDT on finex. We see that every day in our price bots.
[2015-07-28 19:46:09] splash : coinorama... never seen it before. w8
[2015-07-28 19:47:18] BitMEX_Sam : Pretty impressive per-widget customization
[2015-07-28 19:48:29] splash : yea look goood
[2015-07-28 19:48:35] splash : i dont see the lag spike
[2015-07-28 19:48:38] splash : i feel blind
[2015-07-28 19:48:54] BitMEX_Sam : Bottom right widget?
[2015-07-28 19:49:37] splash : ah _there_ it is :)
[2015-07-28 19:49:38] BitMEX_Sam : You'd need to be on 8hr+ timespan to see it
[2015-07-28 19:50:22] splash : so its reoccuring, do u know why?
[2015-07-28 19:50:32] BitMEX_Sam : I would guess a backup job
[2015-07-28 19:50:37] BitMEX_Sam : We've seen it for many months
[2015-07-28 19:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : Also looks like kraken must have deployed something, their latency went way, way down.
[2015-07-28 19:52:15] splash : kraken... thats one weird exchange
[2015-07-28 19:52:43] splash : i don get it. they seem to be legit and everything, still they dont have the depth I hear some people say
[2015-07-28 19:52:54] splash : i dont know from own experience though cause I dont have account there
[2015-07-28 19:53:30] BitMEX_Sam : Kraken is pretty legit from what I've seen.
[2015-07-28 19:53:49] BitMEX_Sam : They seem to have a really competent team. It's taken a long time for them to take a lead, they probably entered too late, but it seems they're doing okay now
[2015-07-28 19:54:12] splash : indeed, could be that they came in later. sounds plausible
[2015-07-28 19:54:44] BitMEX_Sam : They were the first exchange I saw that offered PGP support on emails, which I thought was really cool
[2015-07-28 19:55:33] splash : I recall they also helped fixed major bug in Namecoin as part of doing due diligence on the coin before intregrating it.
[2015-07-28 19:55:47] splash : the bug was that anyone could change the keyvalue lol
[2015-07-28 19:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Great team. Goes to show that technical capacity is not the key indicator success in this market, unfortunately
[2015-07-28 19:56:41] splash : yea exactly. that's why i think its so weird about it.
[2015-07-28 19:57:24] splash : i know several exchanges that have come and gone that have been run by "colorful" individuals in what seams to be the mean time.
[2015-07-28 19:58:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, especially in the early days there were a lot of exchanges that should not have been
[2015-07-28 19:59:03] BitMEX_Sam : It was all about time to market, not completeness or security
[2015-07-28 19:59:35] BitMEX_Sam : If you haven't, read the leaked mtgox source. It's a nightmare
[2015-07-28 19:59:41] BitMEX_Sam : Bitcoinica was the same way
[2015-07-28 19:59:54] BitMEX_Sam : And I believe that's why finex is still having issues today, but of course I don't know what's really going on out there.
[2015-07-28 20:00:20] splash : lol... yes im a software engineer too so i understand the mtgox thing
[2015-07-28 20:01:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. It's amazing it lasted as long as it did
[2015-07-28 20:01:39] BitMEX_Sam : Although it appears whoever compromised them stayed in their systems for a very long time in order to extract maximum value. Well, it worked
[2015-07-28 20:02:02] splash : indeed who knows really. for all know you could be an AI that baidu designed and is testing out. or I am one myself. i got this obsession with cryptos, so i gotta be messed up in someway or another at eleast
[2015-07-28 20:04:00] splash : the strangest thing about this crypto thing and trading is that it makes be crave for social intreaction, yet its all so anoymous and weird. in real life im not social at all.
[2015-07-28 20:04:03] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, well if they could write an AI that itself could write a Bitcoin exchange, I don't think they'd waste it on writing said exchange.
[2015-07-28 20:04:15] splash : lol. probably.
[2015-07-28 20:04:27] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that's why we have a trollbox. The site chat is the best part of most exchanges
[2015-07-28 20:06:58] splash : thats true
[2015-07-28 20:07:12] splash : i never listen to peoples predictions or analysis.
[2015-07-28 20:07:19] splash : only the social aspect
[2015-07-28 20:29:58] lazerdye : Hi, how does the 25x leverage work? I see on my dashboard that I'm using 4.67% leverage. Can I control that in any way?
[2015-07-28 20:30:37] BitMEX_Sam : lazerdye: Yep, you're seeing 4.67x leverage because that's factored in relation to your total account balance.
[2015-07-28 20:30:57] BitMEX_Sam : So if you have 1 Bitcoin of margin and the position you have open is worth 4.67 Bitcoin, that's what you'll see.
[2015-07-28 20:31:19] BitMEX_Sam : You can increase leverage by buying more contracts, OR by clicking "isolate margin", which will limit your downside by only using the minimum funds required to hold the position.
[2015-07-28 20:31:40] BitMEX_Sam : Keep in mind that if you do, your liquidation price changes - which means you will be liquidated faster if the market turns against you.
[2015-07-28 20:32:40] lazerdye : Will the leverage increase if I deposit more, or does it only make a difference when I buy/sell a contract?
[2015-07-28 20:33:01] BitMEX_Sam : Your leverage would actually decrease if you deposited more, which is good
[2015-07-28 20:33:07] BitMEX_Sam : The lower your leverage, the lower your risk of liquidation.
[2015-07-28 20:33:17] BitMEX_Sam : Leverage goes up as you buy more with the same underlying balance.
[2015-07-28 20:36:20] splash : its like crossed right?
[2015-07-28 20:37:03] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, it is cross margin.
[2015-07-28 20:37:39] lazerdye : Thanks, that's quite informative.
[2015-07-28 20:39:23] splash : great
[2015-07-28 20:39:38] splash : waiting for entry, then im going to try bitmex
[2015-07-28 20:39:53] splash : cant come here and just try the chat... that would be like... weird
[2015-07-28 20:41:17] BitMEX_Sam : :) Funds are in your account after one confirmation, it's generally quite fast
[2015-07-28 20:45:13] splash : yes I read that. its the "darn charts" im waiting for ;).
[2015-07-28 20:45:22] splash : im trading daily charts mostly. smooth out the noise
[2015-07-28 20:46:35] j8 : waiting for a dip to buy?
[2015-07-28 20:49:51] splash : yes
[2015-07-28 20:50:06] lazerdye : I hear tomorrow morning could be interesting due to the (possible) interest rate announcement, might be good to put your position in before then.
[2015-07-28 20:51:23] splash : im the kind of trader that trades only the entry im handed and im not handed an enetry that I like
[2015-07-28 20:54:50] j8 : so you're gonna fomo in when we cross 300?
[2015-07-28 21:01:51] lazerdye : I can't wait for the fomo, it's been a long time returning...
[2015-07-28 21:36:22] GAmma : Sam or admin here?
[2015-07-28 21:37:54] GAmma : Now I'm trading with 796 and Coinut ...
[2015-07-28 21:39:01] GAmma : Options would be nice, index or futures options ...
[2015-07-28 21:44:15] GAmma : Ok, looks interesting, I like the new UI and zero fees ...lol
[2015-07-28 21:44:39] GAmma : I'll make my deposit in the next 24 hrs and have a go at it
[2015-07-28 21:51:36] BitMEX_Sam : Hey GAmma, nice to see you here.
[2015-07-28 21:51:53] BitMEX_Sam : We don't list any options on BitMEX. We have quanto, inverse, and volatility futures.
[2015-07-28 21:52:31] GAmma : yes, I know what you have, tks
[2015-07-28 21:53:23] BitMEX_Sam : Just clarifying. Options in the cards for the platform some day, but likely not this year.
[2015-07-28 21:57:31] Blargwaffle : Options'll get me using margin.
[2015-07-29 01:03:30] cloud : SAM
[2015-07-29 01:03:42] BitMEX_Arthur : cloud: He is away how can I help
[2015-07-29 01:03:43] BitMEX_Arthur : ?
[2015-07-29 01:03:44] cloud : Do the december contracts settle weekly
[2015-07-29 01:03:51] cloud : Someone in WC asking
[2015-07-29 01:03:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes they rebalance weekly
[2015-07-29 01:04:10] BitMEX_Arthur : so if you made a profit it is subject to adj for one week
[2015-07-29 01:09:41] chrisxbt : oh hey gamma
[2015-07-29 02:28:47] KeyserSozeMC : Hello
[2015-07-29 02:29:50] BitMEX_Arthur : KeyserSozeMC: Hi
[2015-07-29 02:29:51] BitMEX_Arthur : nice user name
[2015-07-29 02:30:03] KeyserSozeMC : :)
[2015-07-29 02:30:16] KeyserSozeMC : What's the max margin allowed?
[2015-07-29 02:30:21] BitMEX_Arthur : 25:1
[2015-07-29 02:30:33] BitMEX_Arthur : So if you have 1 Bitcoin, you can trade a position worth 25 Bitcoin
[2015-07-29 02:30:44] KeyserSozeMC : Cool. Cool. I trade FX.
[2015-07-29 02:30:47] BitMEX_Arthur : Nice
[2015-07-29 02:30:56] KeyserSozeMC : How old is the site?
[2015-07-29 02:31:01] KeyserSozeMC : Who's the owner ?
[2015-07-29 02:31:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Myself I am the CEO
[2015-07-29 02:31:20] KeyserSozeMC : Okay, is your company registered?
[2015-07-29 02:31:21] BitMEX_Arthur : BitMEX_Sam is the CTO, BitMEX_Wally is the COO
[2015-07-29 02:31:30] BitMEX_Arthur : we are incorporated in the Seychelles
[2015-07-29 02:31:41] BitMEX_Arthur : if you read the TOS you will see our business registration numbr
[2015-07-29 02:31:49] TrevinHofmann : You've been open... A year or so?
[2015-07-29 02:31:57] BitMEX_Arthur : About 9 months
[2015-07-29 02:31:58] BitMEX_Arthur : of live trading
[2015-07-29 02:32:02] BitMEX_Arthur : in development since Jan 14
[2015-07-29 02:32:18] TrevinHofmann : Fun simulation before live :)
[2015-07-29 02:32:28] KeyserSozeMC : BitMEX_Arthur: That's cool, too high to read ToS. Will transfer some BTC over here to try the platform
[2015-07-29 02:32:37] BitMEX_Arthur : Great
[2015-07-29 02:32:41] BitMEX_Arthur : How did you hear about our platform
[2015-07-29 02:33:02] KeyserSozeMC : Exchanged ref links with a guy
[2015-07-29 02:33:52] TrevinHofmann : BitMEX_Arthur: I'm going to set up a market making bot tonight. Nothing fancy, but I'll definitely have it running before I go to bed.
[2015-07-29 02:33:58] TrevinHofmann : I can't not do it with 0 fees ;)
[2015-07-29 02:34:05] BitMEX_Arthur : great please put it on `XBTN15`
[2015-07-29 02:34:09] BitMEX_Arthur : you will find the most action there
[2015-07-29 02:34:32] BitMEX_Arthur : KeyserSozeMC: cool, glad to know what is working marketing wise for us
[2015-07-29 02:35:56] KeyserSozeMC : What does "N15" stand for?
[2015-07-29 02:37:21] BitMEX_Arthur : July 2015
[2015-07-29 02:37:29] BitMEX_Arthur : we use the standard financial markets month codes
[2015-07-29 02:37:41] BitMEX_Arthur : but if you use the Basic UI it will just display the actual date as expir
[2015-07-29 02:37:42] BitMEX_Arthur : y
[2015-07-29 03:58:27] TrevinHofmann : Alright, time to set up a bot
[2015-07-29 04:12:45] toffoo : is there any place to see contract open interest or daily hi/lo/volume here on the new UI?
[2015-07-29 04:15:30] TrevinHofmann : Go to Order Controls
[2015-07-29 04:15:41] TrevinHofmann : The tab next to Chart, where you place orders
[2015-07-29 04:15:49] TrevinHofmann : Then hit Full Details in the upper right
[2015-07-29 04:16:14] TrevinHofmann : Open Interest is there
[2015-07-29 04:16:20] TrevinHofmann : and volume
[2015-07-29 04:16:26] TrevinHofmann : not sure where you'd find low/high
[2015-07-29 04:18:24] toffoo : got it, thanks
[2015-07-29 04:19:12] TrevinHofmann : BitMEX_Arthur: Is `constriants` a typo in /apiKey, /apiKey/disable, /apiKey/enable?
[2015-07-29 04:19:15] toffoo : I'd actually clicked that Full Details 2-3 times and still didn't see it hidden in there
[2015-07-29 04:24:53] TrevinHofmann : BitMEX_Arthur: Also, any websocket support for creating/cancelling orders yet? Or is it still only for subscribing to data feeds?
[2015-07-29 04:27:44] TrevinHofmann : Ooh, I think I found the answer in `execution`
[2015-07-29 04:28:05] TrevinHofmann : Or maybe not. Looks like another feed :(
[2015-07-29 04:29:45] TrevinHofmann : On the page: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wsAPI
[2015-07-29 04:30:03] TrevinHofmann : The 'Access Token' link points to localhost, I'm guessing that's from your dev environment?
[2015-07-29 04:43:20] BitMEX_Wally : TrevinHofmann: Sorry, the link should be https://www.bitmex.com/app/restAPI#authentication
[2015-07-29 04:43:25] BitMEX_Wally : Will fix
[2015-07-29 06:31:22] TrevinHofmann : The API Explorer shows `access_token` while the in-app REST Docs show `accessToken`
[2015-07-29 06:31:29] TrevinHofmann : Both seem to work, just noticed the inconsistency.
[2015-07-29 06:31:48] BitMEX_Arthur : thanks for pointing that out
[2015-07-29 06:36:51] TrevinHofmann : no problem
[2015-07-29 06:37:00] TrevinHofmann : bot almost ready
[2015-07-29 07:07:35] TrevinHofmann : bot online
[2015-07-29 07:07:51] BitMEX_Arthur : awesome what contract are you quoting on
[2015-07-29 07:07:58] TrevinHofmann : XBTN15
[2015-07-29 07:08:13] TrevinHofmann : It doesn't have a very good pricing model (bitfinex + fixed premium)
[2015-07-29 07:08:21] TrevinHofmann : But it will do for now.
[2015-07-29 07:08:27] TrevinHofmann : It's the 420 contracts
[2015-07-29 07:08:33] BitMEX_Arthur : nice
[2015-07-29 07:10:02] TrevinHofmann : Oh, I might have found a bug. Or I'm reading the docs wrong.
[2015-07-29 07:12:22] TrevinHofmann : on the DELETE /order/all, if I supply a `symbol` parameter, it gives me this response:
[2015-07-29 07:12:24] TrevinHofmann : { "error": { "message": "orderIDs or clOrdIDs must be sent.", "name": "HTTPError" } }
[2015-07-29 07:12:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Will have Sam take a look when he wakes up
[2015-07-29 07:12:45] TrevinHofmann : Which should only be returned for deleting a single order, if I understand.
[2015-07-29 07:12:59] TrevinHofmann : Thanks :) Overall, very very good API and documentation though!
[2015-07-29 07:43:17] BitMEX_Wally : TrevinHofmann: Can you recreate in API explorer? https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/order/cancelAll
[2015-07-29 08:00:58] TrevinHofmann : BitMEX_Wally: No, it seems to be working fine in the explorer.
[2015-07-29 08:01:12] TrevinHofmann : Must have been a problem on my end. My bad.
[2015-07-29 09:20:29] ilikepies69 : Hi bitmex, any chance of getting a scrollable orderbook? would be great if you could impliment on the advanced ui
[2015-07-29 09:25:31] cloud : There is one
[2015-07-29 09:25:36] cloud : Click the arrow on the top right
[2015-07-29 09:25:52] cloud : it enlarges order book, and can scroll and see full orderbook
[2015-07-29 10:19:02] chrisxbt : scroll bars are ugly
[2015-07-29 10:24:35] chrisxbt : nice 420 bot
[2015-07-29 12:54:26] ksinvest : still 0% profit adjustment despite volatility, nice volume, nice spread on XBTN15 - congrats, BitMEX!
[2015-07-29 13:27:55] Scott J : hmmm...any reason why my withdrawal was cancelled?
[2015-07-29 13:54:03] BitMEX_Arthur : Scott J: You never confirmed via email
[2015-07-29 13:56:27] Scott J : ah balls
[2015-07-29 13:56:29] Scott J : derp
[2015-07-29 14:53:14] 420WhaleIt : 420 bot?
[2015-07-29 14:53:21] 420WhaleIt : Talking about me?
[2015-07-29 14:53:33] 420WhaleIt : :P
[2015-07-29 14:54:46] BitMEX_Sam : Welcome @420WhaleIt
[2015-07-29 14:55:55] 420WhaleIt : Oh hi there, didn't expect anyone to reply.
[2015-07-29 14:58:17] TrevinHofmann : My 420 bot betrayed me :( It needs some repairs.
[2015-07-29 14:58:33] BitMEX_Arthur : TrevinHofmann: what happened?
[2015-07-29 14:58:51] TrevinHofmann : I'm not sure.
[2015-07-29 14:59:03] BitMEX_Sam : Hope you were using it on testnet
[2015-07-29 14:59:25] TrevinHofmann : No, life of course :) haha - Not too big of a problem.
[2015-07-29 14:59:55] TrevinHofmann : I set a max position, and a Math.min was supposed to work, but I must have messed up a calculation somewhere.
[2015-07-29 15:00:23] TrevinHofmann : So the max position was basically disregarded and I got a larger position than I wanted. No big deal though, caught it in time.
[2015-07-29 15:00:48] BitMEX_Arthur : live to fight another day
[2015-07-29 15:27:40] ksinvest : TrevinHofmann: i had the same problem with my 300 bot on XBU24H. is your bot based on BitMEX's python code?
[2015-07-29 15:29:21] BitMEX_Sam : There's been a lot of updates to that code, it's worth merging if you haven't already
[2015-07-29 15:29:37] BitMEX_Sam : I've built it out to listen to the WS, so you can make much faster decisions without hammering the API
[2015-07-29 15:30:02] BitMEX_Sam : Working on a standalone BitMEX WS API module that you can just query data from in your own code. Beats the heck out of polling all day long
[2015-07-29 15:35:57] ksinvest : BitMEX_Sam: thank you, great to hear! i'm currently rewriting my complete bot in python. this was my first python project, so i only changed your code a bit and built the other parts of the bot with php workers.
[2015-07-29 15:36:12] BitMEX_Sam : PHP workers - interesting
[2015-07-29 15:36:47] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely check out the newest revision of the code. It's not as realtime as I'd like it to be - I'd like to get rid of the whole notion of polling intervals as it doesn't make sense anymore with the websocket. But it works well, I run it on testnet now and then
[2015-07-29 15:38:58] ksinvest : a pearl script called "solo", redis and php are actually not that bad performing.
[2015-07-29 15:39:17] BitMEX_Sam : Oh sure. And you don't need max perf for a trading bot, it's mostly IO and simple math
[2015-07-29 15:41:21] ksinvest : that's very true, i just want to have some more 'beautiful' code because i want to open source it one day...
[2015-07-29 15:43:31] BitMEX_Sam : So, why so many processes - why not all in Python? Introducing new processes in different languages connected by Redis creates a lot of complexity
[2015-07-29 15:43:55] ksinvest : when will your standalone ws module be finished? will have a small hackathon next weekend with a friend...
[2015-07-29 15:45:34] TrevinHofmann : ksinvest: No, I wrote up a node.JS bot from scratch.
[2015-07-29 15:45:43] ksinvest : reducing complexity is a very important issue. python just seemed too be too complex for me because i never used it before, so i started with php because i wanted to have a quick first working prototype.
[2015-07-29 15:46:41] j8 : sam's code is pretty great for learning python. i've picked up some tricks there
[2015-07-29 15:47:22] BitMEX_Sam : ksinvest: I can try to separate it out, it's pretty simple to be honest.
[2015-07-29 15:48:14] ksinvest : TrevinHofmann: nice. i hate java script but that sounds like the most efficient solution.
[2015-07-29 15:48:43] BitMEX_Sam : Node is pretty nice, but I prefer the synchronous style in Python for a trading bot, less having to worry about the order of operations
[2015-07-29 15:48:50] BitMEX_Sam : Of course if you use Promises most of the complexity goes away
[2015-07-29 15:49:10] BitMEX_Sam : TrevinHofmann: I have a WS implementation in JS as well
[2015-07-29 15:49:21] ksinvest : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, that would be great. if not than i can try it during the weekend.
[2015-07-29 15:49:36] ksinvest : if not *then*
[2015-07-29 15:50:47] BitMEX_Sam : https://github.com/BitMEX/websocketAdapters
[2015-07-29 15:51:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll refactor out the Python one and document it a bit
[2015-07-29 15:53:41] ksinvest : thank you
[2015-07-29 15:54:01] cengel : if any1 is interested there's some mIRC code for order execution on bitmex git too :)
[2015-07-29 15:59:54] ksinvest : winner of BitMEX's "most esoteric ; API connector award" congrats :)
[2015-07-29 16:00:34] cengel : ty ty
[2015-07-29 16:00:56] ksinvest : if i just knew this award exited... ;)
[2015-07-29 16:01:10] cengel : i think Sam created it just for me actually
[2015-07-29 16:01:21] ksinvest : :)
[2015-07-29 16:01:35] cengel : although it may be a recurring award so you still have a chance
[2015-07-29 16:02:36] cengel : there's also a VBA one there for anyone looking to do Excel integration
[2015-07-29 16:02:54] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah the VBA one is pretty solid
[2015-07-29 16:03:22] cengel : not the mirc one? :(
[2015-07-29 16:03:46] cengel : the award was all a lie!
[2015-07-29 16:04:50] BitMEX_Sam : Hahah it was "Most esoteric", not "Most useful" or "Most reliable"
[2015-07-29 16:04:57] BitMEX_Sam : Admittedly I haven't tried the mirc connector since I don't run Windows
[2015-07-29 16:05:06] BitMEX_Sam : Not to disparage your work. I think it's awesome
[2015-07-29 16:05:30] cengel : lol :)
[2015-07-29 16:09:35] ksinvest : simplicity is beauty, indeed very nice code/idea
[2015-07-29 16:11:54] gustavo7 : finally someone sold BVOL7D
[2015-07-29 16:19:38] j8 : yeah it should find some sellers toward the end of the week. it takes some real guts to sell earlier in the week
[2015-07-29 16:23:17] j8 : i wish it was a more active market. would like to do a little market making there soon.
[2015-07-29 16:25:47] BitMEX_Sam : Just needs more guys like you taking initiative on it.
[2015-07-29 16:28:08] j8 : i think the DPE system kills some of my hedging strategies... pnl on one market won't offset losses on another market until after rebalance, right?
[2015-07-29 16:29:22] cengel : its pretty risky to take initiative, i was taking initiative in bvol and paid the price lol
[2015-07-29 16:30:08] gustavo7 : sam, somethings wrong with my css - typing in the order boxes is white text on white background
[2015-07-29 16:30:35] TrevinHofmann : Browser?
[2015-07-29 16:30:58] gustavo7 : chrome 44.0.2403.107
[2015-07-29 16:31:03] gustavo7 : tried STRG+F5
[2015-07-29 16:31:39] ksinvest : maybe i can encourage others playing with market maker bots with this: 0.5 BTC investment/max. money at risk, about +9% in about 6 weeks, trading volume of contracts about $25,000. (risk level is maybe still higher than bitfinex swaps, but still nice for people who just want to watch their BTC growing without speculation on higher/lower prices)
[2015-07-29 16:34:50] ksinvest : more competition of market makers would make BitMEX much more liquid, just stay away from XBU24H, we don't need tighter spreads there ;)
[2015-07-29 16:37:34] gustavo7 : okcoin wall flipped bearish
[2015-07-29 16:38:22] BitMEX_Sam : ksinvest: https://github.com/BitMEX/websocketAdapters/tree/master/python
[2015-07-29 16:39:06] BitMEX_Sam : gustavo7: Perhaps some extensions are messing with the CSS?
[2015-07-29 16:40:01] ksinvest : BitMEX_Sam: wow thx!
[2015-07-29 16:40:30] BitMEX_Sam : The "magic" is in `__on_message`, the rest is mostly boilerplate
[2015-07-29 16:40:49] gustavo7 : inspector says computed #333
[2015-07-29 16:41:05] BitMEX_Sam : #333 should be fine, that's a dark dark grey
[2015-07-29 16:41:21] BitMEX_Sam : Do you get that in both the basic and advanced trade layouts? You can switch with the options menu in the top right corner
[2015-07-29 16:42:13] gustavo7 : yup, basic/advanced/light/dark
[2015-07-29 16:42:20] gustavo7 : i think chrome is lieing
[2015-07-29 16:44:11] BitMEX_Sam : Try incognito mode?
[2015-07-29 16:44:25] BitMEX_Sam : That way you can know if an extension is messing with the page.
[2015-07-29 16:47:06] gustavo7 : inco was alright and new tab in normal is now too, weird
[2015-07-29 16:50:08] BitMEX_Sam : Odd.
[2015-07-29 16:50:28] BitMEX_Sam : Unfortunately I have any way to protect the page against what extensions do. You're the first I've heard of having this problem
[2015-07-29 17:05:54] cengel : http://www.coindesk.com/lawsky-new-consulting-firm-cant-advise-on-bitlicense/
[2015-07-29 17:06:15] cengel : looks like lawsky is somewhat limited
[2015-07-29 18:23:22] goat : BitMEX_Sam: another suggestion, so every time i log in i have to scroll the menu up so the chat is the "top" item. you should make it so the interface is in the last state you used it in when you log back in
[2015-07-29 18:23:49] goat : again, not a big issue at all, but would be a nice feature when you have time to get around to it. i know you guys have other things that are more important in the works
[2015-07-29 18:38:39] zoso1964 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTN15 Your current margin balance is 0.5014 XBT. The Margin widget on the Wallet Page shows more detailed margin status.
[2015-07-29 18:38:55] zoso1964 : links to https://www.bitmex.com/app//wallet
[2015-07-29 18:39:21] zoso1964 : extra forward slash
[2015-07-29 18:49:34] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks zoso1964
[2015-07-29 19:01:57] miratrader : BitMEX_Sam, could you check what happened with XBU24H? Shows No data on the Orderbook panel for me.
[2015-07-29 19:02:10] j8 : same with BVOL24H
[2015-07-29 19:02:54] j8 : oh theres no orders.
[2015-07-29 19:03:04] j8 : actually it says "Loading..." when the book's empty
[2015-07-29 19:03:32] miratrader : got the orderbook back, cool
[2015-07-29 19:03:44] BitMEX_Sam : I'm seeing them show up, might just take a little bit
[2015-07-29 19:04:13] miratrader : no gone again
[2015-07-29 19:04:16] miratrader : * now
[2015-07-29 19:04:38] BitMEX_Sam : Whoever's MMing BVOL24H is in and out
[2015-07-29 19:06:01] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: on advanced view, when there's no data,it shows "Loading..." instead of "no data" or just no data
[2015-07-29 19:08:14] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks. I'll address that
[2015-07-29 20:31:26] j8 : some weirdness with bitfinex api the last half hour or so. trades that went through over that period were severely delayed. looks like these weren't seen by the indices here
[2015-07-29 20:32:01] BitMEX_Sam : How bad were the delays?
[2015-07-29 20:32:09] j8 : like a half hour
[2015-07-29 20:32:27] j8 : there's a small error in `.XBT_5M`
[2015-07-29 20:32:57] j8 : which affects BVOL in a negligible way
[2015-07-29 20:33:00] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yeah. I see a completely flat line on cryptowatch from T-45 to about T-15
[2015-07-29 20:33:47] BitMEX_Sam : Well it's not necessarily wrong, there wasn't any trading during that time, but yes, finex is becoming increasingly unstable as an indicator
[2015-07-29 20:34:33] j8 : there were trades that showed up like 30 mins after the fact.
[2015-07-29 20:36:08] BitMEX_Sam : goat: Your suggestion made it into the latest update
[2015-07-29 20:36:34] goat : BitMEX_Sam: awesome, thanks man!
[2015-07-29 20:37:29] j8 : the 5 min close at 16:10 should have been 291.30 instead of 291.29
[2015-07-29 20:38:14] j8 : based on polling the api after the fact
[2015-07-29 20:38:20] j8 : {"timestamp":1438200648,"tid":10277285,"price":"291.29","amount":"0.01","exchange":"bitfinex","type":"sell"},{"timestamp":1438200575,"tid":10277257,"price":"291.3","amount":"1.0","exchange":"bitfinex","type":"buy"},
[2015-07-29 20:39:31] j8 : not a big deal in this case, but it could be. wondering what your policy is on double-checking after the fact
[2015-07-29 20:40:09] BitMEX_Sam : j8: bfxdata shows 291.29
[2015-07-29 20:40:51] BitMEX_Sam : If there are significant discrepancies we may halt trading or delay settlement until we can get a reliable source of data.
[2015-07-29 20:45:35] j8 : bfxdata is wrong, polling api is the official data source no?
[2015-07-29 20:48:43] j8 : actually looks like it's right now. 291.30
[2015-07-29 20:55:23] j8 : it would be great if there was some double-checking on your end.
[2015-07-29 20:56:28] j8 : or, take the policy of not counting trades if they're received too late
[2015-07-29 20:58:00] BitMEX_Sam : I'd have to get Wally to get back to you on that one, he wrote the bitfinex connector, but I believe it's smart enough to look through the history when connectivity is impeded and pick out the right trades from the feed
[2015-07-29 20:58:20] BitMEX_Sam : From the logs there was no point in the last few hours where we lost connectivity, so if there's a discrepancy in the number it's because that's how bfx reported it to us at the time
[2015-07-29 20:59:14] BitMEX_Sam : Rather than have the price fetcher fetch back in time and double-check entries (and potentially delay settlements), I believe the right answer is to get a more reliable datasource
[2015-07-29 21:02:40] j8 : well it looks like it prints the index as soon as possible if a trade after the close confirms it, or some time after if there are no trades. i've seen it get 15 mins behind when the bfx api was down. no problem
[2015-07-29 21:03:17] j8 : it wasn't down this time, just not updating.
[2015-07-29 21:03:32] j8 : which is indistinguishable from no trading.
[2015-07-29 21:06:48] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: more reliable datasource is for sure the answer.
[2015-07-29 21:07:08] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely. We're talking about it internally
[2015-07-29 21:18:04] j8 : i look forward to a day when there is professional infrastructure in this space. there just isn't
[2015-07-29 21:20:29] BitMEX_Sam : It's getting better. But I agree.
[2015-07-29 21:22:44] j8 : definitely getting better. appreciate all your work
[2015-07-29 21:23:48] BitMEX_Sam : Np - great having knowledgeable traders on the site
[2015-07-29 21:36:14] j8 : oh the flattery. too bad knowledge is not profit
[2015-07-29 21:39:19] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, well keep trying.
[2015-07-30 05:17:26] miratrader : all good market makers left XBU24H :-( the spread is almost $3 now
[2015-07-30 05:20:59] miratrader : paging ksinvest: please turn your bot on :-)
[2015-07-30 06:16:01] ksinvest : miratrader: bot was not quoting from 04:28 to 05:29 UTC, seems it couldn't get reliable data from bfx. will have to improve this, bitfinex shouldn't have the power to shut my bot down ;)
[2015-07-30 06:24:36] miratrader : thanks ksinvest, I see your bot on the ask side now. We are still missing 2 BTC bot for some reason.
[2015-07-30 06:36:32] ksinvest : yes, my bot needs 2 btc bot to get motivated for better prices sometimes. unfortunately currently only on ask because sold out on bid.
[2015-07-30 06:39:36] ksinvest : down again for 10 minutes :(
[2015-07-30 07:46:02] ksinvest : it wasn't Bitfinex's fault this time. my server could not resolve any hosts. Google DNS did not even let me resolve google.com, switched from Google to Chaos Computer Club, now it works fine, very wired...
[2015-07-30 09:25:27] Mercedesfleetwood29 : Ok what do I do
[2015-07-30 09:27:38] BitMEX_Arthur : Go to the account / wallet section click on deposit and send funds
[2015-07-30 10:01:04] gustavo7 : dat xbu spread
[2015-07-30 10:02:39] BitMEX_Arthur : gustavo7: If you want to speculate with 25x leverage trade `XBTN15` tight marke
[2015-07-30 10:04:00] cengel : Arthur, are you going to do weekly XBT contracts?
[2015-07-30 10:04:20] BitMEX_Arthur : cengel: Possibly depends on demand
[2015-07-30 10:04:29] cengel : weekly keeps a nice limit on how big premium gets, when you know settlement is <7 days away
[2015-07-30 10:04:38] cengel : less than 7 days away
[2015-07-30 10:04:57] BitMEX_Arthur : cengel: `XBTN15` is expiring in under 2 days and the prem is still super high
[2015-07-30 10:05:26] cengel : yea but compared to the Q contract its quite tame
[2015-07-30 10:05:59] cengel : i just think weekly gives a really close analog to a spot activity
[2015-07-30 10:06:06] BitMEX_Arthur : cengel: I think these contracts will have persistently high premium due to high leverage and the quanto effect
[2015-07-30 10:06:18] cengel : yea
[2015-07-30 14:08:28] hashman : how can i place a stop loss order?
[2015-07-30 14:09:14] hashman : got liquidated while I was sleeping... should have had a stop but can't figure out how to do it. I'm very new to this here..
[2015-07-30 14:13:59] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: At this time we don't support stops, they are coming soon though
[2015-07-30 14:53:42] hashman : should i set a separate buy or sell order to act as my stop? will that work for now?
[2015-07-30 14:54:15] BitMEX_Sam : Technically, that wouldn't work, because it would cross the book
[2015-07-30 14:54:39] BitMEX_Sam : best idea for now is to not go asleep with highly leveraged positions. We'll be putting stops in very soon
[2015-07-30 14:55:46] hashman : ETA for that? thanks for info
[2015-07-30 14:56:43] BitMEX_Sam : It's top priority for us after the Friday settlements
[2015-07-30 14:56:55] BitMEX_Sam : Should be in next week
[2015-07-30 14:58:07] hashman : cool. thxs
[2015-07-30 15:44:19] Scott J : Thanks for fixing my withdrawal mistake yesterday!
[2015-07-30 15:45:17] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: we were wondering a few days ago, will stops be triggered by the fair price or last trade? or customizable
[2015-07-30 15:45:45] BitMEX_Sam : As written now it's lastPrice
[2015-07-30 15:46:21] BitMEX_Sam : I can see reasons for wanting either.
[2015-07-30 15:46:45] j8 : yeah same. its tricky
[2015-07-30 15:47:20] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. If we do fairprice, I think some users will be very confused if they look at a chart and their stop didn't execute when they expected
[2015-07-30 15:47:37] BitMEX_Sam : However doing it via lastPrice could potentially open up thin books for manipulation
[2015-07-30 15:48:22] j8 : with lastPrice, you could even be margin called before your stop triggers, if there're no trading at the moment
[2015-07-30 15:49:11] BitMEX_Sam : True
[2015-07-30 16:50:37] miratrader : IMHO if you do margin calls by fair price we should be able to set stops by fair price as well
[2015-07-30 17:13:59] BitMEX_Sam : I agree. We're looking at doing it by `markPrice`, which is `fairPrice` for most contracts
[2015-07-30 17:21:02] cengel : but fair price doesn't necessarily slip between b/a so youre not guaranteed a fill by that are you ?
[2015-07-30 17:24:44] BitMEX_Sam : That's true, you'd want to set your price accordingly
[2015-07-30 17:25:12] BitMEX_Sam : e.g. if long, a trigger at 280 that creates a limit at 250 to ensure you hit something
[2015-07-30 17:26:45] cengel : interested to see what you come up with
[2015-07-30 17:27:17] BitMEX_Sam : It'll essentially be price triggers. Once the `markPrice` hits `x`, do `y`
[2015-07-30 17:28:23] cengel : yea i guess i meant more with the UI and stuff
[2015-07-30 17:30:38] j8 : one detail - it's not possible to know what the limit up/down (if there is one) will be when it's triggered, and it would suck to have it rejected for this reason when you're just trying to get filled with a high probability
[2015-07-30 17:31:25] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, good point. I'll make sure we account for that.
[2015-07-30 17:56:56] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: my rows are reordering again
[2015-07-30 18:15:36] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Positions?
[2015-07-30 18:15:53] j8 : yeah, like before when i click the isolate margin button
[2015-07-30 18:16:20] BitMEX_Sam : Still there on a refresh?
[2015-07-30 18:16:50] j8 : yeah still
[2015-07-30 18:17:18] j8 : was fine for a few days.
[2015-07-30 18:17:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I could replicate it before and then pushed a fix. Looking into it
[2015-07-30 18:23:44] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see the issue. If two positions have the same expiry the sort isn't stable. Thanks
[2015-07-30 18:24:33] j8 : right on.
[2015-07-30 20:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Alright, fixed if you refresh
[2015-07-30 20:40:55] j8 : ok, they're not in any logical order but at least they're not jumping around anymore
[2015-07-30 20:41:50] BitMEX_Sam : They're in order of expiry
[2015-07-30 20:41:58] j8 : i have 4 that expire tomorrow :)
[2015-07-30 20:42:20] BitMEX_Sam : :Then if the expiry is identical, they're in order of when you opened them
[2015-07-30 20:42:27] j8 : i see.
[2015-07-31 00:58:47] j8 : some enthusiam on `XBUN15`
[2015-07-31 00:59:11] BitMEX_Arthur : Some interesting trades given less than 24hr until expiry
[2015-07-31 02:21:36] ZeroBit : can anyone explain how the xbt works here?
[2015-07-31 02:21:49] BitMEX_Arthur : The `XBT` contracts?
[2015-07-31 02:22:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Basically, for each $1 move in the Bitcoin price you make or lose 0.00001 Bitcoin
[2015-07-31 02:22:54] BitMEX_Arthur : If you think the price is going up buy, if you think it is going down sell
[2015-07-31 02:23:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Your payoff in Bitcoin is 1:1 with the USD movement in price, so if the price goes up 1% and you are long, you make 1% on the position value
[2015-07-31 02:24:32] BitMEX_Arthur : ZeroBit: What other questions do you have?
[2015-07-31 04:55:15] 4pmw : Hi is there anywhere i can see the amount of longs vs shorts taken out from everyone ?
[2015-07-31 04:57:15] j8 : longs = shorts
[2015-07-31 04:58:20] 4pmw : ???
[2015-07-31 04:58:41] j8 : every long is someone else's short
[2015-07-31 04:59:02] j8 : but if you're wondering about the total open contracts thats Open Interest
[2015-07-31 04:59:17] j8 : on advanced view or if you click Full Details
[2015-07-31 04:59:26] 4pmw : ok total then
[2015-07-31 05:00:41] 4pmw : ok got it thanks
[2015-07-31 05:00:49] j8 : np
[2015-07-31 05:01:14] j8 : oh, and its not double counted.
[2015-07-31 06:58:53] miratrader : My algo was saying 'stay short' but I got scared and closed my short @ $290. It's a bad idea to argue with computer :-)
[2015-07-31 07:01:30] miratrader : at least I closed all my profitable longs yesterday
[2015-07-31 13:11:21] akstunt600 : oh look a troll box. I thought it would be on the right so i never even noticed it
[2015-07-31 13:11:40] akstunt600 : oh i can move it
[2015-07-31 13:12:07] akstunt600 : oh nah just full screen it
[2015-07-31 13:17:37] BitMEX_Sam : Even better
[2015-07-31 13:17:41] BitMEX_Sam : You can also connect via IRC
[2015-07-31 13:44:40] goat : arggg this didn't bounce much at all after the dump
[2015-07-31 13:44:55] goat : i was expecting a bit more of a retracement before this morning for bitmex esttlement
[2015-07-31 13:44:57] goat : oh well
[2015-07-31 13:51:53] goat : BitMEX_Sam: hey man, just want to get your thoughts on what's going on here. not a big problem ata ll
[2015-07-31 13:51:59] goat : so im under expired positions
[2015-07-31 13:52:48] goat : is there any specific way they are sorted? I assume by date?
[2015-07-31 13:53:06] goat : or can we click on the headings to sort by each option?
[2015-07-31 13:53:24] goat : either ascending or descending
[2015-07-31 13:58:43] BitMEX_Sam : goat: They're sorted by expiry, oldest first
[2015-07-31 13:59:00] goat : yeah, thats what i figured
[2015-07-31 13:59:00] BitMEX_Sam : Probably more intuitive to be newest first. I have a ticket in the system to allow rearranging tables by clicking headers but it's not ready yet
[2015-07-31 13:59:08] goat : yeah no big deal at all
[2015-07-31 13:59:17] goat : i thought it should be newest on top but saw newest on the bottom
[2015-07-31 13:59:20] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the suggestion though. It would be a nice feature
[2015-07-31 13:59:26] goat : yeah its not a big deal at all like i said
[2015-07-31 13:59:36] goat : i was just trying to understand the way you had it
[2015-07-31 13:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : It's consistent at least, all positions are sorted by expiry
[2015-07-31 13:59:48] BitMEX_Sam : But the expired list can get pretty long if you've been here a while
[2015-07-31 14:00:00] goat : yeah exactly. mine isn't too long yet but its getting there
[2015-07-31 14:00:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yup. I'll see what I can do about it
[2015-07-31 14:00:37] goat : not a big deal at all... you can put it on the back burner
[2015-07-31 14:00:47] goat : i rarely look through this tabl
[2015-07-31 14:00:55] goat : but pretty much do after every settlement
[2015-07-31 14:01:05] goat : so its not something to rush on at all, im sure many people are similar
[2015-07-31 14:01:12] goat : they just want an overview of their performance after settlement
[2015-07-31 14:01:41] goat : and one other thing
[2015-07-31 14:01:42] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. I may roll your realised PNL into settlement history
[2015-07-31 14:01:45] BitMEX_Sam : Would be nice to see there
[2015-07-31 14:02:09] goat : so for XBU24H, i had a "loss" but haven't traded it in a few days
[2015-07-31 14:02:24] goat : so under closed positions its showing 0 p/l for that and BVOL24H
[2015-07-31 14:02:37] goat : but it should be showing a slight loss for BVOL and a larger loss for 24H
[2015-07-31 14:02:49] goat : or would that show up once i re-open a position?
[2015-07-31 14:03:04] goat : just asking because it used to show the cumulative gain or loss
[2015-07-31 14:03:09] BitMEX_Sam : We now do cash settlements on relisting contracts
[2015-07-31 14:03:13] BitMEX_Sam : So you can see your PNL in your wallet history
[2015-07-31 14:03:17] goat : ok perfect
[2015-07-31 14:03:21] goat : i figured there was a change
[2015-07-31 14:03:33] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it was a hole in how relisting contracts reported to begin with
[2015-07-31 14:03:33] goat : yeah thats totally fine, just making sure its not a bug of some type
[2015-07-31 14:03:50] BitMEX_Sam : The idea is that we want you to be able to trace every movement of your account balance via the transaction/wallet history
[2015-07-31 14:03:53] goat : ok cool, thanks man
[2015-07-31 14:04:00] goat : yeah i hear that
[2015-07-31 14:04:07] goat : just making sure everythings good in the hood
[2015-07-31 14:05:06] goat : hopefully we start heading up again soon :D got some decent entries during the futures dump this morning
[2015-07-31 14:05:37] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it looks like vol is ticking up a tiny bit
[2015-07-31 14:06:25] goat : im looking to short oil if we head above 49-50 again
[2015-07-31 14:07:14] goat : i charted this breakdown perfectly and missed my entry bc there was actually crypto volatility - https://www.tradingview.com/x/SXgPxhhX/
[2015-07-31 14:11:38] goat : BitMEX_Sam: so then i assume the same is true about these XBT contracts? if i had a position, exited it completely and then re-established a position yesterday
[2015-07-31 14:11:46] goat : that's why its showing realized p/l as 0
[2015-07-31 14:11:51] goat : and it used to show cumulative?
[2015-07-31 14:12:01] goat : even though those arent "relisted" contracts like the 24H ones?
[2015-07-31 14:12:21] BitMEX_Sam : Well, XBTN15 just settled
[2015-07-31 14:12:44] goat : yeah ofc
[2015-07-31 14:12:45] BitMEX_Sam : Did you have a position in that or a currently active contract
[2015-07-31 14:12:55] goat : for Q, U and Z
[2015-07-31 14:13:05] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, it was the rebalance
[2015-07-31 14:13:27] goat : ok cool, just trying to make sure i fully understand everything
[2015-07-31 14:13:29] BitMEX_Sam : See your wallet history, you should see `CashSettlement` lines for that
[2015-07-31 14:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : We rebalance XBT series contracts every week
[2015-07-31 14:14:45] goat : yep got it
[2015-07-31 14:14:53] goat : and this would be your new DPE system i assume?
[2015-07-31 14:15:03] BitMEX_Sam : Yep exactly.
[2015-07-31 14:15:09] goat : ok awesome, i get it fully
[2015-07-31 14:15:14] BitMEX_Sam : We settle out any loss every Friday at 12 UTC
[2015-07-31 14:15:16] goat : i thought it was something along those lines, just wanted to confirm
[2015-07-31 14:15:17] goat : yep
[2015-07-31 14:15:20] goat : got it 100%
[2015-07-31 14:15:20] BitMEX_Sam : In this case, there wasn't any, but realisedPNL is paid out
[2015-07-31 14:15:27] BitMEX_Sam : Cool.
[2015-07-31 14:15:38] goat : i like that system
[2015-07-31 14:15:40] goat : good job
[2015-07-31 14:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : Thank Wally, he did the heavy lifting. I just put the numbers on the screen
[2015-07-31 14:16:00] goat : thanks wally! lol
[2015-07-31 14:16:01] BitMEX_Sam : :) He's been outdoing himself lately
[2015-07-31 14:17:46] goat : you guys are going to totally rek okc
[2015-07-31 14:17:47] goat : i can't wait
[2015-07-31 14:19:29] BitMEX_Sam : Hoping 25x is the motivation traders need to give it a shot.
[2015-07-31 14:24:40] cengel : how is first week vs expectations ?
[2015-07-31 14:25:08] ksinvest : BitMEX_Sam: do you have any stats about volume increase this week?
[2015-07-31 14:25:16] cengel : ^
[2015-07-31 14:25:21] goat : that will definitely help, but i think that your professionalism and great exchange will do the rest
[2015-07-31 14:26:04] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/stats/history
[2015-07-31 14:26:06] BitMEX_Sam : Goes all the way back
[2015-07-31 14:27:14] BitMEX_Sam : Probably easier to read through https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/stats/history
[2015-07-31 14:38:20] cengel : total turnover looks higher and healthier vs last week
[2015-07-31 14:40:13] ksinvest : cengel: you mean XBU+XBT?
[2015-07-31 14:40:24] ksinvest : +BVOL?
[2015-07-31 14:40:29] cengel : rather than look at volume i was just looking at the total turnover
[2015-07-31 14:40:52] ksinvest : not easy to calculate on one view as volume/turnover depends mainly on volatility.
[2015-07-31 14:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, volatility can create enormous swings in trading volume
[2015-07-31 14:44:14] cengel : well i was just eyeballing not performing a full analysis :))
[2015-07-31 14:56:01] goat : BitMEX_Sam: so i just had a suggestion actually, i read the DPE stuff
[2015-07-31 14:56:58] goat : it might make sense for a pop up to come on every friday or every first time a trader logs in after friday settlement that informs them "contracts have been settled, please make note of your new entry price and adjust asks accordingly" or something