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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2014-12-01 10:43:21] laisee : k, thx. [2014-12-01 14:05:52] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: did the team make a final decision about those holding fees? [2014-12-01 14:06:01] rhk : need to decide whether its safe to start trading again [2014-12-01 14:06:12] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: It's something we're working on an official policy for, we're sending around emails, you'll get one soon [2014-12-01 14:06:24] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime if you would like me to switch you back to the old maker/taker without insurance, just say so [2014-12-01 14:15:48] rhk : depends on how long it'll take to get sorted.. if it's likely in a day or two i'll just wait and see [2014-12-01 14:20:30] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: We'll keep you in the loop [2014-12-02 01:07:07] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: ok i see the new fees have kicked in.. can you switch me back to the old ones (no holding fee) for now pls [2014-12-02 01:08:15] BitMEX_Arthur : ok [2014-12-02 01:08:15] BitMEX_Wally : rhk: I'll do this for you now [2014-12-02 01:17:16] sjovani : can I also get switched back to the old fees? (no holding fee and 0.5% tradefees) [2014-12-02 01:17:27] BitMEX_Wally : SUre [2014-12-02 01:18:04] sjovani : ok thx [2014-12-02 01:21:21] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, that's all done. You might need to refresh for the GUI to reflect the changes. [2014-12-02 07:10:56] rhk : on trade panel order controls, it says my current commission rate is 0.25%. when i trade and check trade history its deducted 0.5% [2014-12-02 07:16:12] rhk : i've sent screenshots to support@bitmex.com [2014-12-02 07:20:25] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: Sorry, that was a display issue, remember the old structure was 0.25%/0.5% maker/taker [2014-12-02 07:20:52] BitMEX_Sam : So you were charged the correct amount, the hover tooltip was just incorrectly showing the maker fee for both [2014-12-02 07:22:35] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: I put a fix in right away, you should see it if you refresh. [2014-12-02 09:17:56] void : seems you guys should change multiplier from 1000-1. [2014-12-02 09:18:18] BitMEX_Arthur : u mean 1 xbt per contract? [2014-12-02 09:18:23] void : yes. [2014-12-02 09:18:25] BitMEX_Arthur : i mean 1 xbt per usd [2014-12-02 09:18:35] BitMEX_Arthur : each contract would be huge [2014-12-02 09:19:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that would make each contract worth ~387 XBT [2014-12-02 09:19:07] void : chinese guys like this. [2014-12-02 09:19:28] BitMEX_Arthur : that would mean u put down 90 xbt just to trade one contract [2014-12-02 09:19:46] void : I mean 1 xbt one contract. [2014-12-02 09:19:57] BitMEX_Arthur : so each contract is worth 1 xbt [2014-12-02 09:22:42] void : yes. [2014-12-02 09:22:53] void : Our guys are all like this style. [2014-12-02 09:23:01] void : 796 bitvc okcoin [2014-12-02 09:23:08] void : are all in this style now. [2014-12-02 09:23:23] BitMEX_Arthur : bitvc and okcoin are $100 usd per contract [2014-12-02 09:23:29] BitMEX_Arthur : 796 is like our contract [2014-12-02 09:23:40] BitMEX_Arthur : we will be launching a fixed usd style contract shortly [2014-12-02 12:08:48] goat : Weird, I can't submit orders - Order Submission Error. Order could not be submitted: convertCurrency has the signature (number: Number, toCurrency: String, fromCurrency: [String]). [2014-12-02 12:11:19] BitMEX_Sam : mikelagrotta11: I know exactly what that is, hold on one second [2014-12-02 12:11:21] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry for the interruption [2014-12-02 12:11:47] goat : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, i appreciate the prompt response... don't want to lose any btc because I can't close positions :) [2014-12-02 12:12:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yes of course. Thanks for reporting [2014-12-02 12:12:32] goat : I also sent you guys a message on reddit about your calendar spreads example, I believe that there is an error in example 1. [2014-12-02 12:15:44] BitMEX_Sam : mikelagrotta11: That's interesting, I wonder how we missed that. I'll take a look right now [2014-12-02 12:16:12] BitMEX_Sam : mikelagrotta11: Do you mean Lesson 3 in the References section? [2014-12-02 12:16:28] goat : BitMEX_Sam: I could be wrong because I am new to calendar spreads (I have experience in options and futures though), i think that the example should have 2 different contracts hold on [2014-12-02 12:16:58] goat : Bought 100 XBTQ14_XBTU14 @ $100 + 100 XBTU14 @ $200 - 100 XBTU14 @ $350 Profit of $150 [2014-12-02 12:17:02] goat : shouldnt that be 2 contracts [2014-12-02 12:17:18] goat : shouldnt it be - XBTQ and + XBTU [2014-12-02 12:17:35] goat : instead of both being XBTU [2014-12-02 12:17:48] BitMEX_Sam : mikelagrotta11: Please refresh, orders are fixed [2014-12-02 12:17:54] BitMEX_Sam : Sorry for that error and thanks so much for reporting it [2014-12-02 12:18:05] goat : no problem man, keep up the great work [2014-12-02 12:18:12] goat : i am really enjoying your exchange so far [2014-12-02 12:18:17] BitMEX_Sam : Great, glad to hear it [2014-12-02 12:18:26] BitMEX_Sam : How's it running for you so far? [2014-12-02 12:19:04] goat : Still having the same error, hold on I will log out. [2014-12-02 12:20:00] BitMEX_Sam : You're right about the symbols in the cal spread example 1 [2014-12-02 12:20:03] BitMEX_Sam : I'll fix that. [2014-12-02 12:20:16] goat : Ok cool, thank you! Do you guys have a bounty program :) [2014-12-02 12:20:40] goat : Just logged out and back in, the problem with orders is fixed. [2014-12-02 12:20:58] BitMEX_Sam : Yes we actually do, mostly for security vulnerabilities though [2014-12-02 12:21:10] BitMEX_Sam : We're listed at https://www.crowdcurity.com/ [2014-12-02 12:21:12] goat : That's cool, I just figured I would ask :) [2014-12-02 12:21:21] BitMEX_Sam : Paid out in BTC. :) [2014-12-02 12:21:39] goat : I have seen people on reddit get bounties for stupid errors in the past, its always worth asking for btc :) [2014-12-02 12:21:49] goat : If I see anything security related I will definitely let you know though. [2014-12-02 12:21:54] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks, I appreciate that [2014-12-02 12:22:12] BitMEX_Sam : Back in beta the program was active, now we receive very few reports [2014-12-02 12:22:29] BitMEX_Sam : We've really locked the platform down since then [2014-12-02 12:22:43] goat : Nice, let's hope it stays that way lol [2014-12-02 12:24:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. We have a lot of layers on the backend, and we hold all customer funds in multsig wallets [2014-12-02 12:24:10] BitMEX_Sam : even your deposits are multisig, which very few exchanges do [2014-12-02 12:24:16] goat : I saw that [2014-12-02 12:27:02] goat : Keep up the great work, I'll be back in a bit [2014-12-02 12:27:29] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks, see you around. [2014-12-02 13:20:16] goat : BitMEX_Sam: under instrument details at the bottom of the screen, under settle currency... should it be XBT [2014-12-02 13:20:19] goat : not XBt [2014-12-02 13:20:59] BitMEX_Sam : It's XBt (Satoshis), you multiply the settleCurrency by the multiplier and the price. [2014-12-02 13:21:25] BitMEX_Sam : So a single contract of XBTZ14 right now is 1000 Satoshis * 386.56 [2014-12-02 13:36:17] BitMEX_Wally : All accounting is done in Satoshis (the smallest unit of Bitcoin). [2014-12-02 14:21:21] goat : BitMEX_Sam: Ok cool thank you. I am not used to anything other than btc :) [2014-12-03 02:54:50] BitMEX_Arthur : morning asia [2014-12-03 19:39:05] BitMEX_Sam : Evening, everyone [2014-12-03 19:39:48] BitMEX_Sam : We've been seeing some good volume on XBTH15 [2014-12-03 21:07:50] goldfx : good morning - where are you guys geographically personally located? [2014-12-04 01:08:03] BitMEX_Wally : goldfx: Morning, we're based in Hong Kong [2014-12-04 01:10:14] kevinzbuttercoin : hey guys [2014-12-04 01:10:22] kevinzbuttercoin : where do you usually go to buy or sell spot [2014-12-04 01:12:12] BitMEX_Wally : A lot of us use Bitfinex [2014-12-04 01:12:19] BitMEX_Wally : Indeed, our futures reference Bitfinex for their settlement price [2014-12-04 01:24:34] notisis : How many futures contracts represents 1 BTC? I know i've read this before, but having trouble finding contract size [2014-12-04 01:24:45] notisis : I really think it should be in the FAQ. It's literally the most important thing. [2014-12-04 01:24:52] kevinzbuttercoin : well if you guys are interested, Buttercoin just launched open sign ups. we have good liquidity, narrow spreads, 0% trading fees and quick settlement (2-3 days) bank transfer or (0-1 day) wires [2014-12-04 01:25:11] kevinzbuttercoin : currently supporting US customers with US bank accounts only [2014-12-04 01:25:44] BitMEX_Arthur : notisis: the issue is that for this chain 1 xbt is not fixed [2014-12-04 01:25:46] BitMEX_Arthur : but varies with the price [2014-12-04 01:26:03] BitMEX_Arthur : if you put an order into the order controls panel it will show you the gross value [2014-12-04 01:27:00] BitMEX_Arthur : but for XBTZ14 about 270 contracts equals 1 xbt [2014-12-04 01:28:20] notisis : so as the price of btc goes up, it requires more futures to equal 1 btc? [2014-12-04 01:28:25] notisis : and vice versa? [2014-12-04 01:29:14] notisis : Can you at least make the formula more public? [2014-12-04 01:29:40] BitMEX_Arthur : where would you like to see it? [2014-12-04 01:29:58] BitMEX_Arthur : we have it listed in the documents but that is not working cause people keep asking [2014-12-04 01:47:18] notisis : in the faq [2014-12-04 01:48:01] rhk : maybe have a link from the 'selected contract' panel to the contract spec [2014-12-04 01:48:06] notisis : i also really think you should increase the futures contract size. Like, by a factor of 30 or more. [2014-12-04 01:48:33] notisis : I know it "shouldn't" matter, but it does. People have a way of benchmarking to certain values [2014-12-04 01:48:43] notisis : nobody's coming on here to hedge .02 bitcoins. [2014-12-04 01:49:37] rhk : some people like to punt 0.02 btc tho [2014-12-04 01:50:59] notisis : do they though? and should the exchange cater to them? [2014-12-04 01:51:27] notisis : people just aren't comfortable making a market in 2,700 contracts....even if that's only 10 bitcoins [2014-12-04 01:51:33] notisis : it's just a mental thing. [2014-12-04 01:59:22] rhk : BitMEX_Arthur: i'm seeing wallet balance = "NaN".. ill send a screenshot [2014-12-04 02:04:35] BitMEX_Wally : rhk: We fixed that issue yesterday, was your screen open for a while? [2014-12-04 02:07:19] BitMEX_Arthur : notisis: we hear you we are going to be launching another futures chain next week XBU that will be worth $100, and we are talking about increasing the multiplier for the XBT chain [2014-12-04 02:14:23] rhk : BitMEX_Wally: just refreshed a few mins ago [2014-12-04 02:14:33] rhk : after a second refresh it was ok again [2014-12-04 02:14:55] BitMEX_Wally : rhk: Ok, must be a different bug. Thank you for reporting it. [2014-12-04 02:15:10] rhk : could be something cached in the browser i guess [2014-12-04 02:15:14] rhk : i'll let you know if i see it again [2014-12-04 02:17:52] BitMEX_Wally : notisis: Thank you for your feedback, we'll add a link to the contract specification from the Selected Contract widget. [2014-12-04 02:21:40] notisis : appreciate it [2014-12-04 02:26:48] rhk : BitMEX_Wally: maybe merge 'futures contract formulas' and 'futures trading guide' [2014-12-04 02:27:01] rhk : the actual specs are on the page called 'futures trading guide' which is confusing [2014-12-04 02:27:37] rhk : i think it would be better to have a separate page for each contract, as per ICBIT [2014-12-04 02:30:05] BitMEX_Wally : Agreed [2014-12-04 03:00:58] rhk : another suggestion would be to modify the order entry panel to allow you to set a BTC notional.. and have it calculate #contracts from that [2014-12-04 03:06:40] BitMEX_Wally : The problem with that is that the number of contracts would not be fixed, so if you bought 1 XBT notional, and the price went up 10% and you sold 1 XBT notional you wouldn't be flat [2014-12-04 03:09:04] BitMEX_Wally : We're having these discussions internally to work out how best to provide this feature [2014-12-04 03:13:53] rhk : i think you just need to be careful what you call it. 'current notional' maybe or 'entry notional'.. something like that [2014-12-04 03:14:59] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe you could type "1 XBT" into the quantity box and it will get converted instantly to 270 contracts [2014-12-04 03:15:07] BitMEX_Wally : So you always click Buy /Sell with a specific number of contracts [2014-12-04 03:15:32] BitMEX_Wally : Then we could support "500 USD" and other notionals [2014-12-04 03:41:18] rhk : well you already have the 'gross value' field.. you just cant set the value there [2014-12-04 05:31:23] void : 1contract=1$? [2014-12-04 05:32:48] BitMEX_Wally : void: When we list our XBU future it will be 1 contract = 100 USD [2014-12-04 05:34:32] void : I like that one. [2014-12-04 05:34:43] void : So XBU contract will be fixed leverage? [2014-12-04 05:34:43] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2014-12-04 05:34:54] void : and XBT is not? [2014-12-04 05:35:04] BitMEX_Wally : The margin requirements will be the same [2014-12-04 05:35:50] BitMEX_Wally : One contract of XBT14 is worth 380 * 0.00001 = 0.00380 XBT [2014-12-04 05:36:30] BitMEX_Wally : One contract of XBUZ14 will be worth 100 / 380 = 0.2631 XBT [2014-12-04 05:36:46] BitMEX_Wally : But as the price goes up and down, that XBT will always be worth 100 USD [2014-12-04 05:37:08] void : is xbt just like 796? [2014-12-04 05:37:17] BitMEX_Wally : Yes [2014-12-04 05:37:17] void : and xbu just like okcoin? [2014-12-04 05:37:27] BitMEX_Wally : Yes [2014-12-04 05:38:06] BitMEX_Wally : But OKCoin has fixed USD size contracts, yet you have to enter orders using a XBT notional, and the order book is in contracts [2014-12-04 05:38:10] BitMEX_Wally : So it's really really confusing [2014-12-04 05:38:14] void : But the xbt volume is so large. [2014-12-04 05:39:26] BitMEX_Arthur : void: We hope traders such as yourself will arbitrage btw the two [2014-12-04 05:40:14] void : sure. But if the size is bigger,I will like it more. [2014-12-04 05:41:04] BitMEX_Wally : Hah and massive spreads you'd like too? [2014-12-04 05:41:41] BitMEX_Arthur : And 0 fees :) [2014-12-04 05:41:56] void : and what's mean of calendar spread contract. [2014-12-04 05:42:47] BitMEX_Arthur : It's the difference in price between two maturities [2014-12-04 05:43:12] BitMEX_Arthur : and you can roll open positions between maturities easier and cheaper [2014-12-04 05:45:14] BitMEX_Wally : We have plans to add a "Roll" option against each user's positions. This will automatically submit an order to buy the calendar spread [2014-12-04 05:45:14] void : i see. [2014-12-04 05:48:00] void : hope you can make chinese version quickly and have a promote in china. [2014-12-04 05:58:21] void : wallly XBU will always be worth 100usd? not XBt?. XBT should base on bitcoin it self? [2014-12-04 06:04:25] BitMEX_Wally : XBU will always be worth 100 USD but it is settled in XBT, so if you are long as the price goes up, you get more XBT [2014-12-04 06:07:48] void : usd chain xu chain xbt chain what's the diffrence.. missunderstand.... [2014-12-04 06:08:49] BitMEX_Wally : XBT is a quanto contract, meaning it is quoted in USD but settled in XBT [2014-12-04 06:09:13] BitMEX_Wally : XBU is a inverse priced futures contract [2014-12-04 06:10:17] BitMEX_Wally : XBU is better for hedgers, let me give you an example [2014-12-04 06:11:15] BitMEX_Wally : If you buy 1 contract at 400 USD, this will be worth 100 USD or 0.25 XBT [2014-12-04 06:11:28] BitMEX_Wally : If the price goes up to 500 USD [2014-12-04 06:11:47] BitMEX_Wally : Your 1 contract will be worth 100 USD or 0.20 XBT [2014-12-04 06:12:17] BitMEX_Wally : But you will have a positive PNL of 25 USD (or 0.05 XBT) [2014-12-04 06:32:00] void : XBU=xu? [2014-12-04 06:32:13] void : what about USD? [2014-12-04 06:33:23] BitMEX_Wally : XBU is just an inverse view onto the USD chain. We're not going to bother with the USD chain [2014-12-04 06:35:10] void : so XBU=USD how about xu? [2014-12-04 06:35:52] BitMEX_Wally : XBU does not equal USD [2014-12-04 06:36:17] BitMEX_Wally : XBUZ14 will be a contact settled against XBT/USD but with fixed USD contract sizes [2014-12-04 06:36:54] BitMEX_Wally : XBTZ14 is a contract settled against XBT/USD but with a fixed multiplier to quanto it into XBT [2014-12-04 06:37:12] BitMEX_Wally : USDZ14 will not be listed [2014-12-04 06:37:22] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure where you've seen xu [2014-12-04 06:37:37] void : in your refrence. [2014-12-04 06:38:06] void : XU chain. [2014-12-04 06:38:22] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh my apologies [2014-12-04 06:38:25] BitMEX_Wally : That needs updating [2014-12-04 06:38:29] void : .................. [2014-12-04 06:38:41] void : Seem XU chain is better than xbt chain. [2014-12-04 06:38:49] BitMEX_Wally : XU chain is for when we take USD deposits [2014-12-04 06:38:50] void : it base on 0.01.. [2014-12-04 06:39:07] BitMEX_Wally : We don't currently support USD deposits and withdrawals via a bank [2014-12-04 06:39:22] void : ok.So you can update the refrence. [2014-12-04 06:39:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, thank you! [2014-12-04 06:40:33] void : Also usd chain in the reference is 10$ now. [2014-12-04 06:41:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, it's all academic until we launch the products [2014-12-04 06:44:45] void : And last question .When you will open 10x leverage. [2014-12-04 06:45:22] BitMEX_Wally : Our Chief Risk Officer is analysing the data [2014-12-04 10:15:20] void : can you add bfx price on the top of orderbook? [2014-12-04 12:49:44] BitMEX_Arthur : void: on the todo list [2014-12-04 13:20:12] mlg5867 : are you thinking of adding a confirm button to people who accidentally fat finger and press Sell instead of buy? I put a sell order in that was quite a bit lower than spot [2014-12-04 13:40:34] BitMEX_Arthur : mlg5867: at the moment we have fat finger protection in the limit up and down, if we get more requests for a cfm box pre trade we will think about adding that [2014-12-04 13:43:35] mlg5867 : yeah i was thinking only if a bid is greater than the lowest ask, and vice versa [2014-12-05 01:21:40] BitMEX_Wally : Good morning Asia [2014-12-05 02:18:06] BitMEX_Arthur : XBTH15 Fresh Arb of $22 take a look [2014-12-05 02:24:21] BitMEX_Wally : Against XBTF15? [2014-12-05 02:24:40] BitMEX_Arthur : spot [2014-12-05 02:24:59] BitMEX_Arthur : $367 Bitfinex, XBTH15 bid at $389 [2014-12-05 02:25:08] BitMEX_Arthur : $22 fresh arb on the table [2014-12-05 02:25:45] BitMEX_Arthur : these indian brokers on the nifty used the term fresh arb for when future is in contango, and reverse arb for when in backwardation [2014-12-05 02:25:48] BitMEX_Arthur : i kinda like it [2014-12-05 10:31:03] mlg5867 : i was thinking i should take advantage of it, then i realised it's my bid [2014-12-05 10:31:45] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: :D [2014-12-05 13:12:41] cumberland : Clicking "Save as CSV" on my Trade History does nothing [2014-12-05 13:12:55] BitMEX_Sam : cumberland: Looking into it [2014-12-05 13:19:58] BitMEX_Sam : cumberland: Please refresh, it's fixed. Thanks for the report [2014-12-05 13:50:27] rhk : nice to see the new contract specs [2014-12-05 13:55:02] rhk : recent trades chart seems broken.. let me know if you need a screenshot [2014-12-05 13:57:22] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: Looks good here, what are you seeing? [2014-12-05 13:57:53] BitMEX_Sam : I just updated the chart lib yesterday, it had a bad IE bug - looked good on everything I tested though [2014-12-05 14:55:02] rhk : i sent you a screenshot [2014-12-05 14:55:11] rhk : btw, are there no sellers in Jan? [2014-12-05 14:55:51] rhk : API is showing one offer at $380.56, but website doesnt show any offers at all.. not sure if some issue with my API connection [2014-12-05 15:03:21] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: Thanks, got the screenshot, does that clear up if you refresh? [2014-12-05 15:04:00] BitMEX_Sam : re: january, I see a decent orderbook, can you send a screen of that too? [2014-12-05 15:05:05] rhk : ok.. there are orders there now [2014-12-05 15:43:56] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: trades chart is always like that, even after refresh [2014-12-05 15:44:04] rhk : was working fine before tho [2014-12-05 15:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: Could you make sure you're running the latest Chrome? [2014-12-05 16:02:00] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: seems better after restart & update [2014-12-05 16:02:07] BitMEX_Sam : Great [2014-12-06 02:51:55] BitMEX_Wally : I see that someone is testing out liquidbot-1.0 on XBTZ14 [2014-12-07 10:39:50] mlg5867 : hi what do you think i'd have to bid on XBTH15 to get filled on50k contracts. the larger asks seem to have gone away [2014-12-07 10:40:40] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: Our lead market maker doesn't quote on weekends - the liquidity will be back tomorrow [2014-12-07 10:41:31] BitMEX_Sam : We are working on filling in those gaps. [2014-12-07 10:50:15] mlg5867 : ok that makes sense, i forget that other people take breaks from bitcoin :) thanks [2014-12-07 10:53:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it's enough capital that it generally needs to be watched by a human while it's on the market, although we do what we can to help make it safe to automate [2014-12-07 11:32:36] BitMEX_Arthur : mlg5867: offer for ur size at 400 [2014-12-07 11:32:49] BitMEX_Arthur : i can check if the mm has an axe in a shorter maturity at a better level [2014-12-08 04:05:32] joequant : hi ho [2014-12-08 04:05:44] BitMEX_Arthur : hey [2014-12-08 04:05:47] BitMEX_Arthur : take a look at XBTH15 [2014-12-08 04:06:07] BitMEX_Arthur : nice juicy bid there for some spot vs. fut arb [2014-12-08 04:50:00] joequant : heh. heh. heh. [2014-12-08 09:56:30] Harry931 : Arthur you still about? [2014-12-08 09:57:57] BitMEX_Wally : Harry931: Arthur will be online later [2014-12-08 09:58:30] Harry931 : ok im sure you can hel p also [2014-12-08 09:58:57] Harry931 : do i get delivery of the btc from a buy at the end of contract? [2014-12-08 09:59:13] Harry931 : or just the difference in spot [2014-12-08 10:02:16] BitMEX_Wally : These are cash settled futures, but settled in Bitcoin [2014-12-08 10:02:57] Harry931 : so no delivery then? [2014-12-08 10:03:44] BitMEX_Wally : Not as such [2014-12-08 10:05:00] BitMEX_Wally : Doesn't really make sense for futures that are settled and margined in Bitcoin [2014-12-08 12:09:03] BitMEX_Arthur : XBU chain is now live [2014-12-08 12:11:46] DuGuerre : wheres ur MM [2014-12-08 12:12:12] BitMEX_Arthur : he will be in shortly but put up some of your own quotes :) [2014-12-08 12:12:19] DuGuerre : whats the size of 1 contract? [2014-12-08 12:12:27] BitMEX_Arthur : $100 [2014-12-08 12:12:52] BitMEX_Wally : Check out the specification: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBUZ14 [2014-12-08 15:13:53] Kalman : Hi [2014-12-08 15:14:07] BitMEX_Arthur : Kalman: welcome [2014-12-08 15:14:31] Kalman : reg. fees on quest, 0.00005 *100/373 ? [2014-12-08 15:14:50] Kalman : "one question" [2014-12-08 15:16:02] BitMEX_Arthur : correct [2014-12-08 15:16:06] BitMEX_Arthur : on XBU chain [2014-12-08 15:16:20] BitMEX_Arthur : plus 0.015% per 8-hours on positions held open [2014-12-08 15:16:39] BitMEX_Arthur : or you can switch to a hedger fee structure, maker 0.5%; taker 0.25% [2014-12-08 15:16:49] BitMEX_Arthur : if you want to switch let me know and I can help you with that [2014-12-08 15:23:49] Kalman : could you send me more info? [2014-12-08 15:37:06] BitMEX_Sam : Kalman: See our fees page (http://www.bitmex.com/app/fees). [2014-12-08 15:37:17] BitMEX_Sam : If you want to switch from one structure to the other, you can do so in your Account page. [2014-12-08 16:11:24] Kalman : Thanks for the quick feedback. [2014-12-08 16:12:29] Kalman : Would it be possible to get info about "Reduced fees are available for designated market makers." ? [2014-12-08 16:13:37] BitMEX_Arthur : Kalman: please create a support ticket and I will walk you through our program [2014-12-08 16:13:58] Kalman : thx [2014-12-08 19:16:00] BitMEX_Sam : Evening, traders - we've seen a lot of action on the XBT chain today and a bit of poking on XBU [2014-12-08 19:16:17] BitMEX_Sam : XBU, launched today, has some initial liquidity on each quarterly contract [2014-12-09 04:17:27] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: can you add the date to the 'recent trades' list? [2014-12-09 04:17:55] rhk : also looks like current volume (or daily volume) is no longer displayed under the contract. .would be good to add it back [2014-12-09 07:30:41] rhk : er guys.. all your quanto contracts have disappeared from the dropdown [2014-12-09 07:31:32] rhk : ah i see [2014-12-09 07:31:54] rhk : if you have a contract month selected in XBU that doesnt have a corresponding XBT contract, you cant select anything [2014-12-09 07:52:34] void : why cancel my withdraw.. [2014-12-09 08:07:23] void : and I didn't get confirm email. [2014-12-09 08:34:12] BitMEX_Sam : Hi @void, please re-submit, there appears to be an intermittent problem with our email sender. When a withdrawal is not confirmed after 30 minutes, it is cancelled automatically [2014-12-09 08:47:05] BitMEX_Sam : rhk: Thanks for the diagnosis, a fix for the dropdowns is now live [2014-12-09 10:50:12] void : i submit withdraw again... [2014-12-09 10:55:31] void : still didn't get the confirm email... [2014-12-09 10:56:50] BitMEX_Sam : void: I see you got it working with the links I sent you; if anything check your spam box [2014-12-09 10:56:55] BitMEX_Sam : I will interrogate our email provider [2014-12-09 10:57:15] void : thanks. [2014-12-09 10:57:32] void : You guys send me a link .. [2014-12-09 10:58:58] BitMEX_Sam : void: I am seeing that your email provider was refusing the emails [2014-12-09 10:59:14] void : ....... [2014-12-09 10:59:19] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like they have some sort of per-IP limit, and since we use a well-known email provider, the entire provider was blocked [2014-12-09 10:59:32] BitMEX_Sam : They referred me to: http://service.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/help?subtype=1&&id=20022&&no=1000725 [2014-12-09 11:00:33] void : I will check my email rules.. [2014-12-09 11:02:38] void : I didn't add any email rule for bitmex in my email account setting.I can receive you email... [2014-12-09 11:03:51] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, the issue is that we send automated emails via an external provider [2014-12-09 11:04:10] BitMEX_Sam : I suppose they send emails on behalf of a lot of applications, and your email host has simply blocked them [2014-12-09 11:04:24] BitMEX_Sam : Which is kind of a braindead policy. I've contacted our provider as I am sure they want to know [2014-12-09 11:04:36] BitMEX_Sam : They will hopefully work something out. [2014-12-09 15:12:45] cumberland : In the "Positions" section of the trading page, symbols are shown alphabetically rather than sorted by maturity. Kind of confusing [2014-12-09 15:46:34] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, I think we should sort them in the same order as they are in the ticker bar [2014-12-09 23:32:12] ParadoxBTC : volume on btc and futures has dropped! [2014-12-10 07:53:52] BitMEX_Sam : Morning, traders [2014-12-10 09:46:28] mlg5867 : been using bitmex for a week, finally realised that if you make the window wider everything is displayed as tiles... it was just one box wide before that [2014-12-10 09:46:48] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: Hah, that's our prime layout! Sorry you missed it for so long [2014-12-10 09:47:07] BitMEX_Sam : It's a lot less usable on a smaller width, but we wanted it to still work on tablets/phones [2014-12-10 09:48:41] mlg5867 : looks a lot better now. I'm going to need a bigger laptop though [2014-12-10 09:50:18] BitMEX_Sam : :) If your eyes can take it, you can always zoom the page in/out using ctrl/+- [2014-12-11 04:03:23] goodman_josh : is the total volume for the day or since he contract went live [2014-12-11 04:05:13] BitMEX_Wally : goodman_josh: Since the contract went live [2014-12-11 04:05:36] BitMEX_Wally : I'll improve the wording on the hover-over [2014-12-11 04:05:45] goodman_josh : thanks [2014-12-11 05:07:39] BitMEX_Wally : XBTZ14 is up 5% on the Microsoft taking Bitcoin news [2014-12-11 05:23:40] Tone : yes, Arthur should be happy volatility is back a crawl for a few weeks :) [2014-12-11 05:30:48] goodman_josh : any thoughts on adding stops? [2014-12-11 05:40:43] Tone : yeah that's a good idea, was thinking the same thing [2014-12-11 05:42:16] Tone : also any chance to see liquidity (and perhaps the % of the spread) of the other contracts without switching to them [2014-12-11 05:50:48] BitMEX_Wally : The trading engine supports StopLimit orders, but it is not exposed over the API yet. [2014-12-11 05:53:15] BitMEX_Wally : Tone: You can expand the Instrument Details widget down the bottom [2014-12-11 05:53:42] BitMEX_Wally : That shows the session volume and the bidPrice, midPrice, askPrice etc [2014-12-11 05:56:30] rhk : BitMEX_Wally: dont see the session volume there [2014-12-11 05:57:07] rhk : ah.. i did find it on the contract spec page [2014-12-11 05:57:35] BitMEX_Wally : The "Instrument Details" table at the bottom of the Trading dashboard [2014-12-11 05:57:47] BitMEX_Wally : There are columns `totalVolume` and `volume` [2014-12-11 05:58:56] BitMEX_Wally : (once you click the >> to expand) [2014-12-11 06:00:05] rhk : ah.. just clicked the / sign, not the >> sign [2014-12-11 06:00:10] rhk : confusing.. why have 2? [2014-12-11 06:00:29] Tone : got it thanks, still a bit too many clicks LOL, and when you get to the numbers all the way on the right, can't tell which contract is which :) [2014-12-11 06:01:16] rhk : yeah, maybe freeze the symbol column [2014-12-11 06:01:26] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, I'll mention that to Sam [2014-12-11 06:04:49] Tone : mention to your guys to consider re-ordering the columns, the only important info without scrolling is symbol and Expiry (and for experienced traders the expiry date is not as important either cause it's in the ticker) [2014-12-11 06:08:37] Tone : the pricing and liquidity info is way more useful specifically: Volume Total Volume Open Interest Bid/Ask Last [2014-12-11 06:10:25] Tone : Oh also please mention to Sam that the comma separator is missing for "prevTotalVolume" (not sure what the field is though)... should be 164,254 to match the formatting of the rest [2014-12-11 06:14:16] BitMEX_Wally : Will do, thanks for the great feedback [2014-12-11 06:14:35] BitMEX_Wally : `prevTotalVolume+volume=totalVolume` [2014-12-11 10:20:15] BitMEX_Sam : Hey @Tone, we've added your suggestions to Testnet. We have a lot of updates to push to prod so it will take a day or so to make it here [2014-12-11 13:05:53] gaoMex : The No 1 BitMex needs now is liquidity. [2014-12-11 13:06:04] gaoMex : *No 1 thing [2014-12-11 13:06:29] BitMEX_Arthur : agreed if you are interested in becoming an market maker let us know :) [2014-12-11 13:07:30] gaoMex : My pocket is not deep enough. ;) [2014-12-11 13:45:38] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: it would be great if you guys could create a synthetic mining derivative... the model that twentyseventy has been using seems to be decent [2014-12-11 13:46:03] BitMEX_Arthur : what is twentyseventy [2014-12-11 13:46:15] BitMEX_Arthur : we have been scratching our heads about a product to offer [2014-12-11 13:46:20] BitMEX_Arthur : what about a difficulty future [2014-12-11 13:46:34] BitMEX_Arthur : Bitfinex won't be renewing their TH1 contract [2014-12-11 13:46:38] BitMEX_Arthur : when it expires [2014-12-11 13:46:39] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: hold on, i will get you a link (he is on bitcoin talk) [2014-12-11 13:46:46] goat : yeah because that product is shit lol [2014-12-11 13:46:54] BitMEX_Arthur : what didn't u like about it [2014-12-11 13:46:59] BitMEX_Arthur : i never traded it [2014-12-11 13:47:10] goat : it was not well thought out at all [2014-12-11 13:47:49] goat : i have traded every mining difficulty derivative since btcs inception and have to say hands down TH1 was the WORST [2014-12-11 13:48:43] BitMEX_Arthur : what about a difficulty future that expired after 12,096 blocks [2014-12-11 13:48:57] BitMEX_Arthur : that equates to 6 difficulty changes if my math is correct [2014-12-11 13:49:21] goat : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430137.0 [2014-12-11 13:49:28] goat : that one was pretty good imo [2014-12-11 13:49:36] BitMEX_Arthur : will take a look [2014-12-11 13:49:40] BitMEX_Arthur : we want to offer a mining product [2014-12-11 13:50:44] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: imo there are 2 ways to go about it.... completely synthetic or backed by something like TH1 is/was [2014-12-11 13:51:01] goat : having it backed by something allows for more transparency imo, but is a worse model overall [2014-12-11 13:51:04] BitMEX_Arthur : well that can be considered an equity offering to us persons [2014-12-11 13:51:11] BitMEX_Arthur : so we wouldn't do that [2014-12-11 13:52:27] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: makes sense, i like your thinking [2014-12-11 13:52:59] BitMEX_Arthur : the issue with a difficulty future is finding someone to sell it [2014-12-11 13:53:20] BitMEX_Arthur : all miners will be buyers of difficulty [2014-12-11 13:53:34] goat : right, to hedge against hardware costs (thats how i got started) [2014-12-11 13:56:33] goat : let me think about it a little bit and let you know my thoughts, as i said the twentyseventy link that i sent you is the best one that i have traded so far [2014-12-11 13:56:46] BitMEX_Arthur : ok thanks for that [2014-12-11 13:57:25] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: i think that going along the lines of osmething like that would be best for you guys too because of the way the contracts are structured [2014-12-11 13:57:56] goat : because it is 1 that splits into 2 it allows for constant arbitrage opportuntiies which would be great for you guys if you are trying to attract more mechanized trading (aka fees) [2014-12-11 13:58:04] goat : or 2 that join into 1 [2014-12-11 18:01:04] BitMEX_Sam : goat: I like it. We've definitely had some conversations internally about that sort of thing [2014-12-11 18:01:17] BitMEX_Sam : Now that the product is really stabilizing we'll have resources to put toward introducing products like that [2014-12-12 03:23:53] rhk : yeah IIRC the main issues with TH1 where due to very restricted supply [2014-12-12 03:24:39] rhk : problem 1) they gave the entire mining capacity to one market maker, who held on to most of it [2014-12-12 03:25:19] rhk : problem 2) you couldnt short without borrowing it. [2014-12-12 03:25:47] rhk : so that caused borrowing/shorting to be very expensive [2014-12-12 04:19:29] BitMEX_Arthur : rhk: did u traded TH1 at all [2014-12-12 04:42:05] rhk : no.. i looked into it, but didnt trade because of the above issues [2014-12-12 04:42:34] BitMEX_Arthur : did you ever take a look at this mining pseudo etf on havelock [2014-12-12 04:42:36] BitMEX_Arthur : pretty interesting [2014-12-12 04:42:44] rhk : not yet - i saw the link above [2014-12-12 04:42:48] rhk : i'll take a look later [2014-12-12 04:43:23] BitMEX_Arthur : would like to do a difficulty future but as i said above who would sell it [2014-12-12 04:47:53] rhk : depends on the price :) [2014-12-12 04:48:35] BitMEX_Arthur : :) [2014-12-12 04:49:13] BitMEX_Arthur : need to find someone to market make it [2014-12-12 04:49:44] rhk : you current market maker isnt interested? [2014-12-12 04:51:26] BitMEX_Arthur : possibly but would like to find some others who would be willing to sell [2014-12-12 04:56:46] rhk : how far out does it need to go? [2014-12-12 04:57:14] BitMEX_Arthur : i was thinking 12,096 blocks which is about 3 months [2014-12-12 04:57:32] BitMEX_Arthur : that should be 6 difficulty changes [2014-12-12 05:00:13] rhk : i'll give it some more thought [2014-12-12 10:06:52] mlg5867 : there are no fees for settlement right, if you went long, you're not 'selling' the contract on the expiry date [2014-12-12 10:10:14] BitMEX_Wally : mlg5867: We charge the takerFee for settlements so it is equivalent to selling [2014-12-12 10:11:33] mlg5867 : ok thanks [2014-12-12 14:13:17] goat : BitMEX_Arthur: i may be interested in being a primary dealer of the mining difficulty contract [2014-12-12 14:16:40] BitMEX_Arthur : Ok I will ping u over email [2014-12-12 14:17:40] goat : Sounds good, we can discuss further there. [2014-12-13 04:39:17] rhk : whats the limit up/down for rolls? its displaying zero for both, which can't be right. [2014-12-13 04:51:10] BitMEX_Arthur : rhk: it's a synthetic [2014-12-13 04:51:13] BitMEX_Arthur : so no limit up or down [2014-12-13 05:04:34] rhk : and can you remind me - if i trade the roll, i end up with individual positions in each leg? or its treated as a separate instrument? [2014-12-13 05:04:53] BitMEX_Arthur : u end up with the outrights [2014-12-13 05:04:59] rhk : ok thx [2014-12-13 06:51:24] floopfloop : is XBUZ14 similiar to that of what was in the contest? [2014-12-13 06:51:58] BitMEX_Arthur : it is similar but different to XBT chain [2014-12-13 06:52:07] BitMEX_Arthur : we have a blog post about the differences [2014-12-13 06:52:42] BitMEX_Arthur : http://blog.bitmex.com [2014-12-13 06:52:46] BitMEX_Arthur : XBT vs. XBU [2014-12-13 06:52:51] BitMEX_Arthur : explains all the differences [2014-12-13 06:56:00] floopfloop : Thank you Ill check it out [2014-12-15 08:10:32] BitMEX_Sam : morning BitMEX [2014-12-15 08:11:04] BitMEX_Sam : We rolled out some big websocket API changes over the weekend, see the docs - https://www.bitmex.com/app/wsAPI [2014-12-15 08:11:27] BitMEX_Sam : All existing clients will continue to work, there are simply new features & increased reliability [2014-12-15 14:47:09] mlg5867 : it would be nice if the order book updated after a trade, right now you have to wait for it to refresh [2014-12-15 14:47:46] BitMEX_Arthur : mlg5867: you mean u have to refresh the page to see your order appear? [2014-12-15 14:54:58] BitMEX_Wally : Updates to the order book are pushed over the WebSocket the same time as the trade. What are you seeing? [2014-12-15 15:09:29] BitMEX_Wally : mlg5867: Do you mean that after lifting the offer, you have to wait for the market maker to replenish the liquidity? [2014-12-15 15:17:38] mlg5867 : yeah i have to refresh the page, placing an order doesn't update the book [2014-12-15 15:19:38] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: Do you see the new order in your order list after placing it? [2014-12-15 15:20:29] BitMEX_Wally : The last order you placed was filled immediately, so the only change to the order book would have been the asksize decreasing? [2014-12-15 15:29:31] mlg5867 : i just did a test on XBUH15, bought 5 contracts and the ask only went from 177 to 172 when the page was refreshed (i waited 30 seconds). it may be my browser [2014-12-15 15:34:03] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, it seems like WebSocket updates are not coming through. Can you try a different browser? [2014-12-15 15:36:05] void : the MM always keep 8$ spread... [2014-12-15 15:42:11] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: Are you seeing chat messages in real time? [2014-12-15 15:54:55] mlg5867 : yeah chat is working fine, sorry not really at my laptop much now. I will try incog mode that usually fixes things [2014-12-15 15:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : mlg5867: Okay, let me know if you see anything else. Generally if the chat is working everything else should be too, they all run over the same socket. [2014-12-15 15:55:48] BitMEX_Sam : Email us at support@bitmex.com if you run into any issues, one of us will get back to you right away [2014-12-15 15:57:14] mlg5867 : ok cool - it seems to be a bug with my browser, probably one of the addons. I guess if nobody else is reporting it it's probably ok :) [2014-12-15 15:57:46] BitMEX_Sam : Interesting - well if you figure out which one it is, please let me know [2014-12-15 17:07:40] Tone : wow, the 7,800 contract buy is the biggest i've seen here to date, you picking up some liquidity guys :) [2014-12-15 17:13:39] BitMEX_Sam : Tone: See XBTF15 as well :) [2014-12-15 17:18:41] floopfloop : Why does the market maker thing always best my price instantaneously? I cant get a trade in edge wise! [2014-12-15 17:19:44] BitMEX_Sam : A few users are running their own bots [2014-12-15 17:20:01] BitMEX_Sam : I suppose one of them is simply always beating the best price [2014-12-15 19:04:47] floopfloop : yeah thats true [2014-12-15 19:04:58] floopfloop : I am just trying to make a little on my position [2014-12-15 19:05:08] floopfloop : got some shares at 350.58 :) [2014-12-15 19:05:42] floopfloop : looks like the real trading is a little harder to make money on than in the trading game lol [2014-12-15 19:13:29] BitMEX_Sam : Ha yeah, people were a lot looser about their &btc; back during the game [2014-12-15 19:37:16] Tone : Thanks for the changes in the instrument details, it's much better now [2014-12-15 19:57:07] BitMEX_Sam : Tone: No problem, you were absolutely right on that one [2014-12-16 01:06:26] BenAnh : Is this 20:1 leverage? [2014-12-16 01:06:55] BitMEX_Arthur : BenAnh: the current maximum leverage is 5:1 [2014-12-16 01:07:38] BitMEX_Arthur : because we do not socialise losses we offer lower leverage to guarantee that the contracts settle correctly [2014-12-16 02:49:24] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: hmm.. similar orderbook issues here. i trade, but it doesnt update the prices [2014-12-16 02:50:43] rhk : seems better after a tab refresh [2014-12-16 02:52:58] rhk : seems similar issue to what the other guy reported - websocket is still live, because i can send orders, and get order status updates & trades.. but the prices in orderbook dont change [2014-12-16 02:55:16] BitMEX_Arthur : ok thanks we will look into that [2014-12-16 04:12:44] floopfloop : BitMEX_Arthur: could you extend our free trade accounts for another month for the holidays? :) [2014-12-16 04:13:51] floopfloop : I don't have done any major trading here, but will be able to after the holidays. Universities time out the tuition checks well rofl [2014-12-16 04:14:01] floopfloop : I haven't done* wow [2014-12-16 04:26:59] floopfloop : sa [2014-12-16 04:27:41] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: Are you able to incorporate a # of users online area? [2014-12-16 04:27:53] floopfloop : or would that not work with the bots? [2014-12-16 06:05:31] ParadoxBTC : I do hope btc goes up haha [2014-12-16 08:05:56] floopfloop : yeah I am thinking $360 today [2014-12-16 08:06:58] BitMEX_Sam : not looking good so far on that target [2014-12-16 08:07:13] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: re: users online I'll look into it but we have a few higher priorities at the moment [2014-12-16 08:07:52] floopfloop : yeah, def understandable [2014-12-16 08:08:10] floopfloop : and I am just trolling the troll box, troll troll troll [2014-12-16 08:08:22] floopfloop : Did you know you can pay taxes with Bitcoin? [2014-12-16 08:08:40] floopfloop : I can't wait until we are saying "remember when we used to joke about that" [2014-12-16 08:10:32] BitMEX_Sam : in which country? [2014-12-16 08:14:58] DuGuerre : Hi Sam, having issues with the orderbook not updating [2014-12-16 08:15:28] DuGuerre : seems ok now actually after pressing refresh [2014-12-16 08:15:33] DuGuerre : but had a stale orderbook just before [2014-12-16 08:16:15] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah we are seeing it as well, figuring out what's causing [2014-12-16 08:16:17] BitMEX_Arthur : it [2014-12-16 08:16:27] mlg5867 : do you use chrome with scriptsafe? [2014-12-16 08:17:03] DuGuerre : using chrome but not scriptsafe [2014-12-16 08:17:31] mlg5867 : ok yeah happens to me too, using chrome but i have scriptsafe disabled, just wondered if it was a bug with the addon [2014-12-16 08:17:52] BitMEX_Sam : Just saw it myself, taking a look at it now, bear with us guys [2014-12-16 08:40:43] BitMEX_Sam : Deployed a fix that should help you guys with connectivity please let me know if you still see issues [2014-12-16 09:08:49] mlg5867 : ok thanks! [2014-12-16 09:41:17] rhk : BitMEX_Sam: orderbook still broken i think.. i'll send you a screenshot [2014-12-16 10:11:52] mlg5867 : yeah still doesnt work for me, took an order off the book and it stayed there until i refreshed [2014-12-16 10:16:05] BitMEX_Sam : I found a way to replicate it. will push a fix shortly [2014-12-16 10:16:30] mlg5867 : ok fantastic, sorry i couldnt be more help trying to nail down the problem, got too many tabs open to close chrome [2014-12-16 10:17:04] BitMEX_Sam : It's all good. These interactions can get complex sometimes. Thanks for the help [2014-12-16 10:26:24] BitMEX_Sam : It's fixed, please refresh [2014-12-16 10:53:40] mlg5867 : looks ok so far [2014-12-16 12:29:16] goat : Trade interface seems fixed today, yesterday was a bit buggy. [2014-12-16 12:29:29] goat : Did you process withdraws for today yet? [2014-12-16 12:31:49] BitMEX_Sam : goat: Just starting on that now [2014-12-16 13:02:50] BitMEX_Wally : goat: Withdrawals have been completed [2014-12-16 13:03:25] BitMEX_Wally : All funds are held in multi-signature wallets and require two of us to sign [2014-12-16 14:35:11] goat : No worries man, I was just wondering because I did a test withdraw yesterday :) Thank you. [2014-12-16 16:18:47] rhk : BitMEX_Wally: any reason for not listing XBUF15? its the only one without a matching inverse contract [2014-12-16 16:19:30] BitMEX_Wally : We currently list monthly XBT futures and quarterly XBU futures [2014-12-16 16:19:55] BitMEX_Wally : XBU is better suited for people hedging USD risk, who want a longer term product [2014-12-16 16:20:23] rhk : i personally would find it useful to list both for the same months [2014-12-16 16:21:10] rhk : also ICBIT has a jan contract, but your fees are lower - so i think there would be interest from other traders [2014-12-16 16:21:40] BitMEX_Wally : If people want to trade it, we'll list it :) [2014-12-16 16:21:41] BitMEX_Arthur : from my general experience on icbit the quarterlies always traded more than the monthlies [2014-12-16 16:22:14] BitMEX_Arthur : provide us a 24/7 mrkt rhk and we'll list anything :) [2014-12-16 16:22:39] rhk : can you remind me what min size & spread you are looking for? [2014-12-16 16:22:52] BitMEX_Arthur : i'll shoot you a mail [2014-12-16 16:23:00] rhk : thanks