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[2016-04-27 13:37:21] nip : cant imagine someone would maliciously place a stop order rather than a market order
[2016-04-27 13:37:21] BitMEX_Wally : I also see this stop: `162.*.*.* (Chrome 49, Windows) - "POST /api/v1/order {"symbol":"ETH7D","orderQty":-750,"price":null,"stopPx":0.0154,"ordType":"StopMarket","execInst":"","text":"Submission from www.bitmex.com"}" 200 715b - 15.176 ms`
[2016-04-27 13:37:38] rentchev : yes this one is my stop
[2016-04-27 13:37:54] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, both came from your IP address
[2016-04-27 13:38:21] rentchev : I don't understand
[2016-04-27 13:38:38] BitMEX_Wally : rentchev: Please email support@bitmex.com and I will send you full logs
[2016-04-27 13:39:08] rentchev : Thank you
[2016-04-27 13:39:30] rentchev : it must have been a mistake submittion by the automatic prefil
[2016-04-27 13:39:56] rentchev : it fills 5000 and then the price at the time was 0.01588
[2016-04-27 13:40:32] rentchev : was the 5000 order around the same time as the stop for 0.0154
[2016-04-27 13:41:27] habibi : using stop market orders in eth, where MM likes to go out for few minutes from time is a mistake imo
[2016-04-27 13:41:50] habibi : from time to time*
[2016-04-27 13:42:24] rentchev : I think I am finding this out now habibi
[2016-04-27 13:42:37] BitMEX_Wally : The stop was filled at 2016.04.27 04:50:05.068444000 UTC and then the position was liquidated at 2016.04.27 12:50:51.301656000 UTC
[2016-04-27 13:42:38] rentchev : but if the order was for the correct amount iI have no problem with that
[2016-04-27 13:42:53] habibi : i think it wasnt the case in ur example, just wanted to say it for the record
[2016-04-27 13:44:14] BitMEX_Wally : This is why we have that order confirmation box that pops up
[2016-04-27 13:44:37] BitMEX_Wally : It gives the order quantity, and the current/expected position if it executes
[2016-04-27 13:55:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 453.08
[2016-04-27 13:55:17] rapidtrades : god help us all
[2016-04-27 13:56:06] rapidtrades : oh eth up too....now i'm getting effed both ways
[2016-04-27 13:57:12] MeanReverter : nice getting dumped eh?
[2016-04-27 13:57:23] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: the 100x guy
[2016-04-27 13:57:34] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: how has things been going on for you
[2016-04-27 13:59:31] MeanReverter : excellent!
[2016-04-27 13:59:42] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: that's nice to hear bro
[2016-04-27 13:59:50] MeanReverter : High risk but high reward. Manage stops
[2016-04-27 14:00:08] MeanReverter : I trade futures in crude, equities
[2016-04-27 14:00:18] MeanReverter : bitcoin is childs play in comparison
[2016-04-27 14:00:22] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: Well experienced guy
[2016-04-27 14:00:28] mathewpk13 : (y)
[2016-04-27 14:00:29] MeanReverter : 10+years
[2016-04-27 14:00:55] MeanReverter : caught a nice crude play yesterday
[2016-04-27 14:01:00] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: what exactly is your strategy other than stops, if I may ask,
[2016-04-27 14:01:49] MeanReverter : I'm a classical chartist
[2016-04-27 14:01:57] MeanReverter : crude play from yesterday https://twitter.com/CoderTrader/status/724981961622622208
[2016-04-27 14:02:19] MeanReverter : couple hours later,...https://twitter.com/CoderTrader/status/725062409522544640
[2016-04-27 14:02:49] rapidtrades : yeah saw that one too
[2016-04-27 14:02:59] mathewpk13 : MeanReverter: nice play man
[2016-04-27 14:10:36] Cryptolicious : why is my liquidation price higher than my entry price on xbtu16
[2016-04-27 14:11:10] rapidtrades : Cryptolicious: cos ur short dummy
[2016-04-27 14:11:24] Cryptolicious : no im long
[2016-04-27 14:11:32] rapidtrades : nah
[2016-04-27 14:11:51] Cryptolicious : my entry price is 523
[2016-04-27 14:11:54] Cryptolicious : liquidation 543
[2016-04-27 14:12:05] nip : you withdrew or lost money somewhere else
[2016-04-27 14:12:07] BitMEX_Wally : Cryptolicious: This is due to the weekly rebalance
[2016-04-27 14:12:50] BitMEX_Wally : XBTU16 was rebalanced at 558.82 last Friday
[2016-04-27 14:13:03] BitMEX_Wally : So the profit between 523 and 558.82 was unlocked
[2016-04-27 14:13:15] Cryptolicious : I didn't take profit
[2016-04-27 14:13:46] BitMEX_Wally : Every Friday all unrealised profit is realised and moved to your wallet
[2016-04-27 14:14:18] Cryptolicious : i thought settlemnet wasn't until Sep 30
[2016-04-27 14:14:38] BitMEX_Wally : The position stays open, but the PNL is realised
[2016-04-27 14:14:49] BitMEX_Wally : You can leave it on the position, or you can re-adjust the leverage
[2016-04-27 14:17:21] BitMEX_Wally : So your liquidation price before and after the rebalancing was 493.4
[2016-04-27 14:17:32] BitMEX_Wally : But today you adjusted the position from 15x to 25x so it reset the liquidation price
[2016-04-27 14:18:04] Cryptolicious : ok
[2016-04-27 14:25:53] dorothy490 : omggg
[2016-04-27 14:26:21] dorothy490 : trailing stop order do not getting cancelled automatically after "parent" order closed
[2016-04-27 14:26:46] dorothy490 : that UTTERLY flawed setup
[2016-04-27 14:28:17] dorothy490 : I got big contract opened due of that which I never wanted to haev
[2016-04-27 14:28:42] dorothy490 : especally considering it was excecuted on market, hence fees
[2016-04-27 14:34:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 250 @ 0.01756
[2016-04-27 14:38:57] Cryptolicious : BitMEX_Wally what was the profit adjustment on XBTU16 last week
[2016-04-27 14:40:08] mrp1nk : dorothy490: that is really shit. i already went short two times without wanting it only i was too slow to remove the stoploss
[2016-04-27 14:40:16] mrp1nk : +because
[2016-04-27 14:40:19] j8 : 0% for many weeks @Cryptolicious
[2016-04-27 14:40:33] Cryptolicious : is there a history?
[2016-04-27 14:40:40] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-04-27 14:40:43] Cryptolicious : ok thanks
[2016-04-27 14:41:07] mrp1nk : there should be a logic that removes the stop when the order is closed manually
[2016-04-27 14:41:47] mrp1nk : imo
[2016-04-27 14:41:52] dorothy490 : indeed there should be
[2016-04-27 14:41:58] BitMEX_Sam : That's called an OCO order, which is a different thing
[2016-04-27 14:42:01] dorothy490 : its basically standard
[2016-04-27 14:42:07] BitMEX_Sam : There's not a way for the system to know which order it should close if you execute a stop
[2016-04-27 14:42:12] BitMEX_Sam : You would have to tell it.
[2016-04-27 14:42:29] j8 : i think the word stop kind of implies that it will only reduce a position. not sure if that's technically true but it seems to confuse a lot of people
[2016-04-27 14:42:29] dorothy490 : no man, all "forex" platforms have this intuitive trailing stop
[2016-04-27 14:42:47] dorothy490 : lots of people get burnt like me and will call you scam
[2016-04-27 14:43:16] BitMEX_Sam : Don't expect that the platform will do things that it doesn't say it will do. Orders are not linked to one other.
[2016-04-27 14:43:44] mrp1nk : what i mean: if you have a position with x contracts and a stop limit sell order in place of amount x, then it should be removed if you close the position by buying/selling x contracts.
[2016-04-27 14:44:13] mrp1nk : this happens wenn you do a close market if i remember correctly
[2016-04-27 14:44:18] Cryptolicious : j8, do you think there could be a significant adjustment in the future
[2016-04-27 14:44:20] BitMEX_Sam : It does not.
[2016-04-27 14:44:52] mrp1nk : then it should imo. should be easy to implement
[2016-04-27 14:46:02] j8 : Cryptolicious: it's always a risk, the system is sort of biased to have 0% almost all the time, but at the risk of having a large clawback in extreme situations
[2016-04-27 14:46:20] j8 : that said there is the insurance fund which has been growing
[2016-04-27 14:46:29] Cryptolicious : what do you mean by clawback
[2016-04-27 14:46:49] j8 : DPE, clawback, profit adjustment
[2016-04-27 14:47:19] mrp1nk : don't see the point of why you should have a sell stop without beeing in a position, except one wants to trade the breakout automatically. The latter case could be handled differently. @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-04-27 14:47:49] Cryptolicious : j8 so if bitcoin mooned that would probably happen
[2016-04-27 14:47:57] BitMEX_Sam : I apologize mrp1nk, I'm mistaken, Close Limit / Close Market does indeed close all other open orders in that symbol.
[2016-04-27 14:48:47] Cryptolicious : no?
[2016-04-27 14:49:06] mrp1nk : yeah, i was almost sure that it does this. @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-04-27 14:49:25] j8 : Cryptolicious: yeah a big move up could do it on the long term futures, since the premium could expand quickly... but generally i would think the risk is worse on a big move down
[2016-04-27 14:49:33] mrp1nk : so the behaviour i described above would also make sense @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-04-27 14:50:46] BitMEX_Sam : Yes - we're discussing something like a `StopClose` order that could do this logic. We also have OCO in the API, when it makes it to the UI it will also make these kinds of compound orders possible.
[2016-04-27 14:51:21] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: nice! happy to see that these features are finally implemented.
[2016-04-27 14:52:04] mrp1nk : btw. is there something like a CLI that provides access to the full api. i'm too lazy to program it by myself tbh.
[2016-04-27 14:52:42] BitMEX_Sam : There is a large repository of programming tools for our API at https://github.com/bitmex/api-connectors
[2016-04-27 14:53:10] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: ok, thx! i will have a look on it
[2016-04-27 14:54:08] cengel : Don't forget to use my mIRC plugin if you would like to execute orders from there :) :bitmex:
[2016-04-27 14:55:13] mrp1nk : cengel: cool thx, too!
[2016-04-27 14:58:48] Cryptolicious : and j8 there's always the risk of a judas spike down to liquidate people
[2016-04-27 15:00:18] j8 : exactly, i think the price could go to 650 with no DPE, then have big DPE on a dump to 550
[2016-04-27 15:01:05] hedgehog0223 : how can I automate my trading? I'm not at home at 14:00 usually and I need to put orders at that time
[2016-04-27 15:03:26] cengel : @hedgehog023 you want to be able to make orders on XBT24H after new contract?
[2016-04-27 15:04:23] hedgehog0223 : yes, exactly. to 'be in position' countinously
[2016-04-27 15:04:58] habibi : use 48 roll maybe
[2016-04-27 15:05:11] hedgehog0223 : kina like rolling yeah, but it doesnt work with my strategy :(
[2016-04-27 15:05:44] cengel : Not sure, would be nice if one could have setting on limit orders of XBT24H which do not clear them upon new contract. Something like a check box to say 'keep alive'
[2016-04-27 15:06:06] hedgehog0223 : Yes, I would need that
[2016-04-27 15:06:14] BitMEX_Wally : cengel: We support this at the account level
[2016-04-27 15:06:31] BitMEX_Wally : cengel: If we flag your account as 'MarketMaker' then orders will be left open during relisting
[2016-04-27 15:06:58] cengel : Sounds las though mr. hedgehog would like this
[2016-04-27 15:07:21] hedgehog0223 : but I'm not really a market maker
[2016-04-27 15:08:00] cengel : maybe if you ask Wally nice he'll do it for you anyway :P
[2016-04-27 15:09:20] hedgehog0223 : BitMEX_Wally: so if you mark my account as market maker, my stop orders won't disappear if they dont get fulfilled till next settlement?
[2016-04-27 15:11:49] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: can u set it to non actual market makers?
[2016-04-27 15:12:23] BitMEX_Wally : If you are flagged as a MarketMaker it used to affect fees, but not any more
[2016-04-27 15:12:27] hedgehog0223 : where can I see my 'acount leve' ?
[2016-04-27 15:12:38] hedgehog0223 : l
[2016-04-27 15:12:45] BitMEX_Wally : If you are flagged as a MarketMaker and have a position and a stop order, then after XBT24H settles and re-lists the position will be gone but the stop order will remain...
[2016-04-27 15:13:36] cengel : In effect the flag is just a 'keep alive' switch for open orders then?
[2016-04-27 15:13:48] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-04-27 15:13:56] BitMEX_Wally : Anyone who would like this flag please email support@bitmex.com
[2016-04-27 15:13:57] hedgehog0223 : It's good
[2016-04-27 15:14:12] hedgehog0223 : could you please set it for me?
[2016-04-27 15:14:23] BitMEX_Wally : hedgehog0223: via email, yes :P
[2016-04-27 15:14:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 8174 @ 457.45
[2016-04-27 15:14:33] hedgehog0223 : okay
[2016-04-27 15:14:39] habibi : thanks a lot
[2016-04-27 15:15:09] BitMEX_Wally : Oh, the other difference is that cross margin is enabled by default for MarketMaker, but that's true anyway on BitMEX these days
[2016-04-27 15:15:55] BitMEX_Wally : Before we had the leverage slider non-market maker accounts would default to isolated margin, but now everyone defaults to Cross
[2016-04-27 15:16:21] habibi : btw, market order is still default one ?
[2016-04-27 15:16:45] hedgehog0223 : what is that mean? how much leverage will I get?
[2016-04-27 15:16:49] BitMEX_Wally : It's just a default when trading a new symbol
[2016-04-27 15:16:59] BitMEX_Wally : So there will be no change
[2016-04-27 15:17:15] habibi : easy to spot "new guys" then :)
[2016-04-27 15:17:26] BitMEX_Wally : We remember your leverage settings per symbol
[2016-04-27 15:17:42] Martinos : is there a button the change from isolated margin to mixed?
[2016-04-27 15:20:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 800 @ 455.10
[2016-04-27 15:20:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3300 @ 455.53
[2016-04-27 15:21:01] BitMEX_Wally : Martinos: There is a leverage slider on the side bar
[2016-04-27 15:21:33] BitMEX_Wally : You can drag that from 100x (isolated) to Cross (not isolated)
[2016-04-27 15:21:41] hedgehog0223 : I sent an email
[2016-04-27 15:21:45] Martinos : oh isee
[2016-04-27 15:22:04] hedgehog0223 : BitMEX_Wally:
[2016-04-27 15:22:08] Martinos : thanks
[2016-04-27 15:24:30] BitMEX_Wally : hedgehog0223: Got the email and your account is updated
[2016-04-27 15:24:41] hedgehog0223 : Thank you!
[2016-04-27 15:25:37] hedgehog0223 : can I see somwhere in my account that I'm flagged ?
[2016-04-27 15:26:31] BitMEX_Wally : via the API
[2016-04-27 15:28:42] BitMEX_Wally : Actually, not sure. You'll have to ask BitMEX_Sam
[2016-04-27 15:29:21] BitMEX_Wally : Basically if you have an order in XBT24H and after 12:00 UTC it is canceled with the message "Instrument expired" then you do not have the flag
[2016-04-27 15:31:38] hedgehog0223 : I understand
[2016-04-27 15:32:14] hedgehog0223 : but from now on I can use XBT48H for rolling with a stop as well
[2016-04-27 15:32:59] hedgehog0223 : because that was my problem: Instrument expired
[2016-04-27 15:33:29] j8 : seems it would make more sense to move orders on XBT48H to XBT24H with that flag
[2016-04-27 15:34:05] hedgehog0223 : yes that's what I'd like to do
[2016-04-27 15:34:13] nip : theres no reason to cancel 48h orders
[2016-04-27 15:37:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 454.04
[2016-04-27 15:38:35] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we thought about moving XBT48H orders to XBT24H but decided against it due to the complexity of amending the symbol on an open order. Once we have the non-expiring `XBTUSD` this won't be a problem anymore
[2016-04-27 15:40:47] mrp1nk : the feeling when you get stopped out and filled above your limit price ....
[2016-04-27 15:41:29] mrp1nk : feels scammy
[2016-04-27 15:43:42] BitMEX_Wally : mrp1nk: Stop orders are triggered based on the mark price
[2016-04-27 15:44:19] mrp1nk : yeah i know... is there any place where i can see the market price over time?
[2016-04-27 15:45:17] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2016-04-27 15:46:26] mrp1nk : ok, thx
[2016-04-27 15:46:42] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price dropped to 454.50 and then your stop triggered an hit the bid at 454.91
[2016-04-27 15:47:19] mrp1nk : ok, sorry, i just was looking at the order book
[2016-04-27 15:47:58] BitMEX_Wally : No worries, I'm heading out now, cya all.
[2016-04-27 15:49:22] mathewpk13 : BitMEX_Wally: okay bro
[2016-04-27 15:51:15] mrp1nk : till now i assumed that the market price is the mean of the ask/bid price - lol
[2016-04-27 16:36:04] dannybreal : hello, new here , sry , how can I close my trade?
[2016-04-27 16:37:42] habibi : do the opposite trade to ur position
[2016-04-27 16:39:19] dannybreal : ok, think i managed to make a 7% ROI on my first trade :)
[2016-04-27 16:39:53] habibi : shiet, that awsome dude
[2016-04-27 16:40:42] daveberns1 : lol
[2016-04-27 16:41:56] mrp1nk : damn son 7%?
[2016-04-27 16:42:05] BitMEX_Greg : daveberns1: Congrats! Keep it up
[2016-04-27 16:42:40] dannybreal : i'm not even quite sure what i m doing :D
[2016-04-27 16:43:34] habibi : u making bitcoins, like miners but faster :) gj
[2016-04-27 16:44:18] daveberns1 : and WAY less overhead
[2016-04-27 16:44:53] donchard : dannybreal: how did you did it
[2016-04-27 16:45:40] dannybreal : shorted 10 contracts of ethd7 for about 15 min on 10x leverage
[2016-04-27 16:46:17] donchard : that good was it arb
[2016-04-27 16:48:10] dannybreal : oh wow, called it again now on 15x
[2016-04-27 16:48:39] dannybreal : 17% ROE
[2016-04-27 16:55:35] habibi : looks like we got young W. Buffen here :)
[2016-04-27 16:58:21] blackwhite : short everything that you see )
[2016-04-27 16:58:56] blackwhite : when you change your mood then long
[2016-04-27 17:05:34] habibi : dont let market move ur position, move markets urself! :D
[2016-04-27 17:12:21] blackwhite : make ur exhange and live on fees!
[2016-04-27 17:24:41] ilikepies69 : hi, how does this trailing stop work?
[2016-04-27 17:25:41] mathewpk13 : habibi: how to move the markets
[2016-04-27 17:25:56] mathewpk13 : habibi: you doing some manipulation? :P
[2016-04-27 17:25:58] ilikepies69 : i have n contract pos, trying to create a TS of x dollars from current price, but it sez no can do
[2016-04-27 17:28:47] rapidtrades : FOMC in 30
[2016-04-27 17:29:28] donchard : can you trade this news with bitcoins
[2016-04-27 17:30:57] rapidtrades : why would u trade the news dummy
[2016-04-27 17:34:48] GingerDan : Buy it here boys
[2016-04-27 17:35:13] GingerDan : simply a pull back
[2016-04-27 17:59:58] alchemist : yeah?
[2016-04-27 18:00:03] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Wally: so for the new p2p swap product I have a couple of questions : 1) is the payment prorated for the swap -- as in if I hold for 1 hr during the day is there payment or ONLY at the time you specify are the holders credited/debited
[2016-04-27 18:00:04] alchemist : im in the wrong position lol
[2016-04-27 18:20:47] GingerDan : I'd be lying if I didn't have a stop sell order in case it drops again, but zoom out to the daily, and it's no biggie - should be good to keep going up
[2016-04-27 18:35:35] BitMEX_Greg : BTCVIX: Hey VIX, wrong timezone for Wally right now. When he's up I'll get a reply for you
[2016-04-27 19:02:35] alchemist : whos the biggest winner the last 24/48 hrs?
[2016-04-27 19:05:27] arbitrage001 : exchanges with their fee?
[2016-04-27 19:15:14] alchemist : I mean i wonder if anyone is making like $1000s everyday
[2016-04-27 19:15:19] alchemist : retail customers
[2016-04-27 19:17:41] alchemist : frist trade, 12% ROE cool.
[2016-04-27 19:17:49] arbitrage001 : alchemist: retail by nature is the least informed group of traders
[2016-04-27 19:18:08] arbitrage001 : normally on the bottom of the food chain
[2016-04-27 19:18:58] arbitrage001 : if in the long term, you survive and make a living by trading, then you should celebrate
[2016-04-27 20:49:09] giovannicontini : alchemist: I was making over 1k a day last week, but lost about the same in the last 3 days
[2016-04-27 20:54:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 440 @ 453.87
[2016-04-27 21:09:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 2 @ 453.48 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-27 21:10:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5894 @ 451.83
[2016-04-27 21:10:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 8000 @ 452.94
[2016-04-27 21:10:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 167 @ 451.48
[2016-04-27 21:14:12] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-04-27 21:14:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 4 @ 451.18 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-27 21:14:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 300 @ 449.74
[2016-04-27 21:14:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2218 @ 503.77
[2016-04-27 21:14:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2350 @ 449.47
[2016-04-27 21:14:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 500 @ 503.53
[2016-04-27 21:14:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 5 @ 507.52
[2016-04-27 21:14:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 448.57
[2016-04-27 21:14:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4250 @ 448.13
[2016-04-27 21:15:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 20000 @ 447.80 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-27 21:15:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 8850 @ 502.56
[2016-04-27 21:15:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 276 @ 447.42
[2016-04-27 21:38:55] rapidtrades : still no discount?
[2016-04-27 21:39:46] rapidtrades : the ether scum is playing with us again
[2016-04-27 21:39:55] habibi : too much bots, way less traders
[2016-04-27 21:40:06] rapidtrades : im trading
[2016-04-27 21:40:20] habibi : but u wanna discount, so do i
[2016-04-27 21:40:24] habibi : who gonna make discount?
[2016-04-27 21:40:34] rapidtrades : some dummy
[2016-04-27 21:40:47] habibi : yea but they loose money way too fast here :(
[2016-04-27 21:40:48] rapidtrades : should get rekted soon
[2016-04-27 21:41:29] rapidtrades : china firmly in the lead now
[2016-04-27 21:41:34] rapidtrades : US panicking
[2016-04-27 21:42:14] habibi : yea china buy zone 2980-2910 imo
[2016-04-27 21:42:20] habibi : 2880*
[2016-04-27 21:42:46] rapidtrades : sure, as long as they're buying don't care where it is
[2016-04-27 21:55:35] rapidtrades : well looks like that's it....at least I got 10 btc arb in there....should've been more
[2016-04-27 22:08:37] rapidtrades : habibi: does the 24h session work for u? i got logged out after 5mins again
[2016-04-27 22:09:17] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: You need to log in again after activating it
[2016-04-27 22:09:48] rapidtrades : ok i guess it should work now
[2016-04-27 22:11:14] rapidtrades : are these stamp trades for real? it spiked to 410
[2016-04-27 22:11:42] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: where you get the info
[2016-04-27 22:11:53] rapidtrades : TV...look like bad data
[2016-04-27 22:12:07] arbitrage001 : have a link?
[2016-04-27 22:12:25] rapidtrades : trading view
[2016-04-27 22:14:21] arbitrage001 : polo withdrawal getting slower
[2016-04-27 22:14:27] arbitrage001 : this time waited 12 hours
[2016-04-27 22:14:31] arbitrage001 : still waiting
[2016-04-27 22:15:11] arbitrage001 : going to withdraw all my btc next week
[2016-04-27 22:15:22] arbitrage001 : dangerous to put coins there
[2016-04-27 22:16:18] rapidtrades : 12 hrs is not a lot of time to wait tbh
[2016-04-27 22:16:33] arbitrage001 : for btc it is
[2016-04-27 22:16:46] arbitrage001 : when market sentiment change fast
[2016-04-27 22:16:57] j8 : yeah, and their withdrawal limits are in USD equivalent.. so if the price goes up you're stuck
[2016-04-27 22:17:00] arbitrage001 : the ability to get in and out of trade is important
[2016-04-27 22:17:21] rapidtrades : yeah sucks for arbing keke
[2016-04-27 22:18:36] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Sam: I posted this above for Wally but I think you can answer a couple of questions 1) are you planning on getting rid of all BTC futures contracts for the new p2pswap instrument eventually ? 2) as far as the swap payout is it pro-rated so say I only hold 2 hours during the day will I see a credit/debit for that or is it only for those holding at a certain strike period during the day like a daily overnight charge ?
[2016-04-27 22:19:12] rapidtrades : yeah i think they'll get rid of them eventually...its the bitmex way of doing things
[2016-04-27 22:19:30] rapidtrades : shove things down ppl's throat
[2016-04-27 22:19:38] arbitrage001 : kind of sux
[2016-04-27 22:19:52] arbitrage001 : when i am just getting used to and 6 months contract
[2016-04-27 22:20:02] arbitrage001 : btc
[2016-04-27 22:20:19] rapidtrades : yeah still using testing amounts here :)
[2016-04-27 22:20:28] j8 : it also means it'll probably just be an inverse contract.. it's too bad, i like the long term quantos
[2016-04-27 22:20:34] BitMEX_Arthur : BTCVIX: Hi
[2016-04-27 22:20:42] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Arthur: hey man
[2016-04-27 22:20:48] rapidtrades : hey daddy
[2016-04-27 22:20:53] BitMEX_Arthur : 1) Yes, we want to replace all underlying with one swap product
[2016-04-27 22:20:59] BitMEX_Arthur : 2) interest is not pro-rated
[2016-04-27 22:21:27] BitMEX_Arthur : it is like a bond coupon, if you hold on the coupon date you receive or pay, if you don't then you don't
[2016-04-27 22:21:49] BitMEX_Arthur : however, the market will price in the pro-rated interest between payment times
[2016-04-27 22:21:51] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Arthur: and you have a specific time every day for this correct ?
[2016-04-27 22:21:55] BitMEX_Arthur : yes
[2016-04-27 22:21:58] BitMEX_Arthur : 12 GMT
[2016-04-27 22:22:04] BitMEX_Arthur : but it will be very clearly specified
[2016-04-27 22:22:21] rapidtrades : so its a bond with 24h duration?
[2016-04-27 22:22:26] BitMEX_Arthur : correct
[2016-04-27 22:22:27] BTCVIX : ok and so if I would sell at 11:59 and re-buy at 12:01 I wouldn't be subject to it correct
[2016-04-27 22:23:11] BitMEX_Arthur : yes
[2016-04-27 22:23:52] BitMEX_Arthur : so say you bought at 12:01 T, sold 11:19 T, bought 12:01 T + 2
[2016-04-27 22:23:53] BitMEX_Arthur : T+1
[2016-04-27 22:24:23] BitMEX_Arthur : the price will be higher at 12:01 to reflect the fact that there is accrued interest
[2016-04-27 22:24:37] BitMEX_Arthur : the price will decay linearly dependant on the expected interest payment from 12:01 to 11:59
[2016-04-27 22:24:43] BitMEX_Arthur : so you will in effect pay it anyway
[2016-04-27 22:24:47] BTCVIX : yeah -- it actually might end up being a small tradable event even
[2016-04-27 22:25:03] BitMEX_Arthur : same as the dirty price of a bon
[2016-04-27 22:25:05] BitMEX_Arthur : bond
[2016-04-27 22:25:47] BTCVIX : so theoretically speaking -- longs will want to sell before that time and shorts will want to short into that event
[2016-04-27 22:26:09] BTCVIX : could mean a depressed price just before coupon time
[2016-04-27 22:26:16] BitMEX_Arthur : doubtful
[2016-04-27 22:26:37] BitMEX_Arthur : the market makers will price in the expected interest to be received or paid right after the last coupon
[2016-04-27 22:26:48] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Arthur: alright I just wanted some clarity on that -- I think I understand it now
[2016-04-27 22:26:50] BitMEX_Arthur : that interest component will decay linearly with time until right before payment
[2016-04-27 22:27:36] BitMEX_Arthur : so if u buy right after and sell right before, you would pay your pro-rated share, it is just that we as BitMEX don't have to do that, we let the market solve it
[2016-04-27 22:32:11] tscha : just as stocks dropping at ex-div date
[2016-04-27 22:32:18] tscha : @vix
[2016-04-27 22:33:46] tscha : just the other way round
[2016-04-27 22:33:46] rapidtrades : vix is not his name
[2016-04-27 22:34:55] BTCVIX : tscha: yeah I get the idea -- I was just trying to clarify on how it was structured
[2016-04-27 22:35:23] rapidtrades : selling doesn't stop
[2016-04-27 22:36:39] tscha : rapidtrades: because you are still long :)
[2016-04-27 22:37:06] tscha : rapidtrades: better close that position and grab the profit while you still can :)
[2016-04-27 22:41:20] rapidtrades : tscha: never
[2016-04-27 22:42:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4 @ 449.15 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-27 22:47:01] arbitrage001 : there are over 450k une contract
[2016-04-27 22:47:22] arbitrage001 : meaning there are still huge interest for people trading btc future contract
[2016-04-27 22:47:24] rapidtrades : where 450k
[2016-04-27 22:47:33] rapidtrades : in total?
[2016-04-27 22:47:42] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-04-27 22:47:46] arbitrage001 : you can check
[2016-04-27 22:48:04] arbitrage001 : open interest
[2016-04-27 22:48:20] rapidtrades : well if it was me I would keep everything and just add new instruments
[2016-04-27 22:48:28] rapidtrades : but that's not bitmex :)
[2016-04-27 22:48:31] arbitrage001 : and currently over 65k sep contract
[2016-04-27 22:49:26] arbitrage001 : removing them will alienate many traders here
[2016-04-27 22:49:37] BitMEX_Arthur : We aren't removing them
[2016-04-27 22:49:44] BitMEX_Arthur : They will continue to trade until expiry
[2016-04-27 22:49:51] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-04-27 22:50:04] arbitrage001 : will new 6 months contract be created?
[2016-04-27 22:50:16] BitMEX_Arthur : Under our current plan, no
[2016-04-27 22:51:03] BitMEX_Arthur : You won't need a 6 month contract
[2016-04-27 22:51:11] BitMEX_Arthur : You can buy our new product and hold for as long as youlike
[2016-04-27 22:51:27] BitMEX_Arthur : but you don't have to worry about settlement, and understanding different symbols
[2016-04-27 22:51:27] arbitrage001 : will see how things work
[2016-04-27 22:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 12000 @ 448.18
[2016-04-27 22:51:36] BitMEX_Arthur : it will be much easier for the vast majority of BitMEX traders
[2016-04-27 22:51:44] arbitrage001 : ok
[2016-04-27 22:51:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 110 @ 447.19
[2016-04-27 22:51:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 5200 @ 447.10
[2016-04-27 22:52:00] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 4000 @ 447.79
[2016-04-27 22:52:00] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-04-27 22:52:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 500 @ 447.15
[2016-04-27 22:52:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 3000 @ 447.03
[2016-04-27 22:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5300 @ 446.58
[2016-04-27 22:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 500 @ 593.59
[2016-04-27 22:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 100 @ 578.88
[2016-04-27 22:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 26 @ 585.30
[2016-04-27 22:59:05] rapidtrades : sleger stop selling you ahole
[2016-04-27 23:05:23] giovannicontini : rapidtrades: (y)
[2016-04-27 23:06:31] rapidtrades : last night i went to bed at normal hrs, looks like that's not gonna repeat
[2016-04-27 23:39:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 446.70
[2016-04-27 23:40:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2400 @ 500.00
[2016-04-27 23:40:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 23500 @ 444.24 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-27 23:44:06] 1QaZxSw2 : :bitmex: testing
[2016-04-27 23:52:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 188 @ 0.01749
[2016-04-27 23:56:46] mrp1nk : some1 already in btfd mode?
[2016-04-28 00:02:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 3400 @ 445.65
[2016-04-28 00:21:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2073 @ 442.63
[2016-04-28 00:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 700 @ 440.04
[2016-04-28 00:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1750 @ 439.31
[2016-04-28 00:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 20000 @ 440.50 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-28 00:30:32] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-04-28 00:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 82 @ 439.12
[2016-04-28 00:30:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 100 @ 495.79
[2016-04-28 00:30:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2120 @ 437.98
[2016-04-28 00:30:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 800 @ 437.61
[2016-04-28 00:30:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3000 @ 437.70
[2016-04-28 00:31:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 60350 @ 436.94 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-04-28 00:31:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.01766
[2016-04-28 00:31:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 17830 @ 438.47 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-28 00:31:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 10000 @ 575.82
[2016-04-28 00:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 435.04
[2016-04-28 00:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 150 @ 437.84
[2016-04-28 00:32:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 8000 @ 435.78
[2016-04-28 00:32:57] giovannicontini : Holy cow
[2016-04-28 00:37:24] micmix : feels like good old times
[2016-04-28 00:43:48] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-04-28 01:11:26] 1QaZxSw2 : charts not appearing for me. anyone else have this issue?
[2016-04-28 01:11:42] ayy_lmao : that only happens ot me on mobile
[2016-04-28 01:11:50] ayy_lmao : because the scale is messed up
[2016-04-28 01:11:54] ayy_lmao : have to zoom out scale
[2016-04-28 01:12:24] 1QaZxSw2 : i have it on fullscreen on my 1080p monitor
[2016-04-28 01:13:49] ayy_lmao : most likely something else
[2016-04-28 01:14:31] 1QaZxSw2 : i could probably work with the chart they use the mark price from. anyone know where i can get it?
[2016-04-28 01:14:39] Scottv53 : What happend to the BTC price? It seemed to be movingly nicely up.??
[2016-04-28 01:14:55] 1QaZxSw2 : pump-n-dump bro.
[2016-04-28 01:15:15] 1QaZxSw2 : this is what happens to the college girl the day after she hooks up with the quarterback
[2016-04-28 01:15:20] 1QaZxSw2 : dumped
[2016-04-28 01:16:35] Scottv53 : where bottom here?
[2016-04-28 01:17:16] Scottv53 : Where's the bottom from here?
[2016-04-28 01:18:18] rapidtrades : if i knew that bottom i wouldn't be still bagholding
[2016-04-28 01:18:53] Sancler : Friend, how I can get the platform ?
[2016-04-28 01:21:28] rapidtrades : almost no selling in litecoin
[2016-04-28 01:21:29] ayy_lmao : cryptowat.ch has bitmex charts
[2016-04-28 01:21:36] ayy_lmao : as does tradingview
[2016-04-28 01:22:06] OmniQuantDesk : so I bought the 400-ish BTC in rekt contracts
[2016-04-28 01:22:09] ayy_lmao : https://cryptowat.ch/bitmex/xbt-daily-futures
[2016-04-28 01:22:50] OmniQuantDesk : 2.23 BTC on that
[2016-04-28 01:23:19] OmniQuantDesk : could have been more if I didn't sprinkle it around at marginal profits but who wants to be long so much for so long, this shit is craaazy
[2016-04-28 01:23:27] 1QaZxSw2 : thanks ayy
[2016-04-28 01:24:22] 1QaZxSw2 : dat shee cray as Dr Dre say
[2016-04-28 01:27:55] Scottv53 : <b>
[2016-04-28 01:30:48] rapidtrades : bears need to ttake a chill pill
[2016-04-28 01:30:57] rapidtrades : eth isn't even going up anymore
[2016-04-28 02:05:00] OmniQuantDesk : pretty clean inverse relationship
[2016-04-28 02:05:14] OmniQuantDesk : does this mean if BTC goes to >600 ETH goes back to .002
[2016-04-28 02:17:03] ayy_lmao : there is going to be a point where that inverse relationship stops if btc reaches 600
[2016-04-28 02:17:06] ayy_lmao : else eth would go to 0
[2016-04-28 02:18:13] rapidtrades : eth should go to 0
[2016-04-28 02:18:19] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-04-28 02:28:01] j8 : i'd buy some eth if they were free
[2016-04-28 02:57:14] rapidtrades : ''i'd buy some eth if they were free'' j8 2016
[2016-04-28 02:59:42] rapidtrades : if u have multiple loans on okc, is it better to pay off the smaller ones completely or doesn't matter?
[2016-04-28 03:04:25] rapidtrades : nice 2% crash in yen pairs...tnx boj
[2016-04-28 03:21:17] OmniQuantDesk : distributive property says you pay your average interest rate on the sum of your deb
[2016-04-28 03:21:22] OmniQuantDesk : t
[2016-04-28 03:52:18] Rune : Hi
[2016-04-28 04:04:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 111 @ 439.95
[2016-04-28 04:06:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3995 @ 439.70
[2016-04-28 04:07:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 439.01
[2016-04-28 04:24:08] Rune : wow not many ppl on here
[2016-04-28 04:31:08] daveberns1 : Sounds like EPIC MEGA REKT is still selling, lol
[2016-04-28 04:32:00] Samirum : Rune: so many
[2016-04-28 04:35:13] Rune : troll box is a ghost town
[2016-04-28 04:38:12] jung1 : yeah
[2016-04-28 04:38:21] jung1 : rektbot is most active so far
[2016-04-28 04:41:57] Rune : how long can a position stay open
[2016-04-28 04:42:56] jung1 : depends on the instrument that you trade
[2016-04-28 04:43:24] jung1 : daily are closed everyday at 13:00
[2016-04-28 04:43:38] jung1 : Daily Roll expires after 48h
[2016-04-28 04:44:01] jung1 : Every Friday after thats easy
[2016-04-28 04:44:14] jung1 : and 3 and 6 months
[2016-04-28 04:44:18] Rune : I cant have a position that stays open untill I close it?
[2016-04-28 04:44:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Rune: We are working on that
[2016-04-28 04:44:31] jung1 : shure
[2016-04-28 04:44:34] BitMEX_Arthur : but for now the longest is 6 months
[2016-04-28 04:47:00] Rune : 6 month position are starting at 580
[2016-04-28 04:47:02] Rune : wow
[2016-04-28 04:47:21] BitMEX_Arthur : That is where the market expects the price to be in September
[2016-04-28 04:54:02] jung1 : undervaluated imo
[2016-04-28 04:57:09] BitMEX_Arthur : jung1: Guess you know what you should be doing then
[2016-04-28 04:57:16] Rune : I like this site
[2016-04-28 04:57:24] BitMEX_Arthur : :smile:
[2016-04-28 04:57:25] jung1 : yup
[2016-04-28 05:01:23] Rune : 75% ROE
[2016-04-28 05:01:35] Rune : at 100 do I double my money
[2016-04-28 05:01:43] jung1 : yes
[2016-04-28 05:01:44] Rune : is that how it works my first time
[2016-04-28 05:02:20] jung1 : but its count from mark price and its different than market price
[2016-04-28 05:03:18] Rune : a lil over 3$ movement is so much ROE
[2016-04-28 05:03:24] Rune : crazy
[2016-04-28 05:03:48] jung1 : welcome :)
[2016-04-28 05:04:26] jung1 : imagine how fun was during eth pump
[2016-04-28 05:04:36] Rune : lol
[2016-04-28 05:26:55] alchemist : we will pump it
[2016-04-28 05:27:45] alchemist : i just dont have many btc right now I need to add more lol. after testing it, its cool. Id need to experiment with trailing and the other order types
[2016-04-28 05:34:18] jung1 : you can try it on testnet
[2016-04-28 07:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 601 @ 0.01691
[2016-04-28 07:23:30] Rune : why price jump so much
[2016-04-28 07:29:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 453 @ 0.01659
[2016-04-28 07:29:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 88 @ 0.01659
[2016-04-28 07:29:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 20 @ 443.87
[2016-04-28 07:29:40] jung1 : couse you were short
[2016-04-28 07:30:54] Rune : really up now
[2016-04-28 07:31:02] Rune : I never shorted
[2016-04-28 07:31:11] Rune : I am long from 438.47
[2016-04-28 07:31:25] Rune : 122.93 ROE
[2016-04-28 07:51:55] Rune : poor guy who went long at 447
[2016-04-28 07:57:47] jung1 : depends on margin
[2016-04-28 08:01:32] Rune : why would I come here if im not trading at 100x
[2016-04-28 08:03:56] jung1 : you can choose your lavarage
[2016-04-28 08:07:32] ayy_lmao : chat wont let me say lol
[2016-04-28 08:07:49] ayy_lmao : need to put a cooldown on words lol
[2016-04-28 08:07:57] ayy_lmao : i sent that lol hours ago
[2016-04-28 08:08:05] ayy_lmao : says im spamming
[2016-04-28 08:10:12] jung1 : bitcoin is serious businness
[2016-04-28 08:10:35] jung1 : there is no space for laugh
[2016-04-28 08:19:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.01649
[2016-04-28 08:27:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 19975 @ 444.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-04-28 08:28:02] jung1 : ouch
[2016-04-28 08:29:12] Rune : wow
[2016-04-28 08:29:26] Rune : mega rekt is right
[2016-04-28 08:29:38] zanza : Yen got rekt
[2016-04-28 08:48:33] ayy_lmao : lol wut
[2016-04-28 08:49:10] ayy_lmao : dude got mc in a matter of hours
[2016-04-28 08:49:15] ayy_lmao : on low volume lmao
[2016-04-28 08:52:12] Samirum : ayy_lmao:
[2016-04-28 08:53:29] Samirum : Looks like the party's over
[2016-04-28 08:53:59] ayy_lmao : wasnt me
[2016-04-28 08:57:07] Samirum : ayy_lmao: it's you
[2016-04-28 09:27:49] rapidtrades : it was me
[2016-04-28 09:47:30] tscha : rapidtrades: still long
[2016-04-28 09:47:46] tscha : ?
[2016-04-28 09:50:08] jung1 : btc market cap is again >7bln$
[2016-04-28 10:15:29] rapidtrades : yeah still long
[2016-04-28 10:26:02] dannybreal : cmon chineze
[2016-04-28 10:26:29] dannybreal : is there a cap on the amount of contracts ?