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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-04-12 22:24:58] BitMEX_Sam : If this keeps up we'll have a new replace function for the chat [2016-04-12 22:25:07] cryptokeeper : nice [2016-04-12 22:25:13] BitMEX_Sam : To meet the likes of okcoin and huobi [2016-04-12 22:34:09] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: im a bit annoyed that PNL is calculated based on the mark price [2016-04-12 22:34:27] BitMEX_Sam : It should be, because liquidations are also calculated on mark [2016-04-12 22:35:19] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: i would rather see another column for PNL based on asks/bids if the position would be closed at market price [2016-04-12 22:35:43] yerb : could you add that? [2016-04-12 22:35:56] BitMEX_Sam : I agree that it would be useful, but we're actually already trying to trim the data from that widget [2016-04-12 22:36:05] BitMEX_Sam : It is easy to estimate using the PNL calculator, though. [2016-04-12 22:36:38] yerb : yeah, but that is a pain to use [2016-04-12 22:36:59] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i turned on chart and http://scr.hu/9xvi/g32al :p [2016-04-12 22:37:41] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Does it react properly if you switch contracts? [2016-04-12 22:38:03] habibi : nope, all time A50, didnt try to refresh tho [2016-04-12 22:38:50] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Could be a little mismatch because you had it disabled [2016-04-12 22:38:58] BitMEX_Sam : I'm sure it'll switch on a refresh [2016-04-12 22:39:05] BitMEX_Sam : Or just hit Account and back to Trade [2016-04-12 22:39:45] habibi : i dont care just wanted to inform, but yea its responsive now after that [2016-04-12 22:39:52] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: Litecoin is getting hot these days, would you consider adding it again? [2016-04-12 22:40:42] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks habibi [2016-04-12 22:40:51] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: Possibly, but we're exploring some tweaks to our existing contracts first [2016-04-12 22:41:06] yerb : cool [2016-04-12 22:41:57] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: why is XBU only 3.3x? [2016-04-12 22:46:51] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: We guarantee its settlement, so leverage needs to be much more relaxed so we can do so [2016-04-12 22:47:03] BitMEX_Sam : With 30% IM and 20% MM it's much easier to keep it solvent [2016-04-12 22:50:58] yerb : ok [2016-04-12 23:15:26] 1QaZxSw2 : hello any plans to offer LTC? [2016-04-12 23:18:21] BitMEX_Sam : Hi 1QaZxSw2: We had LTC previously, but discontinued it due to low volume [2016-04-12 23:18:28] BitMEX_Sam : If the LTC markets pick up again, we may relist [2016-04-12 23:18:45] 1QaZxSw2 : thanks Sam [2016-04-12 23:21:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @yerb @BitMEX_Sam I worked briefly on a userscript to add the functionality you mentioned (show PNL based on a market close into orderbook), but I had to open an additional channel to the API (for orderbook data) which lagged the page, and I hadn't even gotten to figuring out how to show it for multiple positions in different contracts. However, I still want to implement this somehow [2016-04-12 23:22:17] BitMEX_Sam : Interesting, IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb - did you figure actual depth, or just bidPrice/askPrice? [2016-04-12 23:23:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Actual depth, but I didn't get very far. I also wanted to take into account the fees associated with the market close, so the resulting number would be exactly your profit from a market close into the books. [2016-04-12 23:23:53] BitMEX_Sam : Gotcha - I appreciate the effort. If there's a lot of interest in this kind of customization, we could expose some better hooks to the page [2016-04-12 23:24:18] BitMEX_Sam : Things like a way to add channel subscriptions to the websocket so you don't have to add that [2016-04-12 23:25:26] BitMEX_Sam : If you're on Testnet, the whole `app` object is exposed on the window - you can call `app.getWebsocketStream('orderBook:ETH7d')`, which would return an EventEmitter firing on that data [2016-04-12 23:25:59] BitMEX_Sam : The great thing is that those are shared - if the app itself is using that data, you'll just get a new emitter into the already connected feed. If not, it'll open a new one with very low cost [2016-04-12 23:26:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I'll play with that on testnet. Better hooks would be very useful for scripts like that. I'm not sure if you'd consider allowing custom scripted widgets to be added to the advanced view (I'm sure there are serious security implications), but that would be the ultimate option. [2016-04-12 23:27:55] BitMEX_Sam : We're unlikely to offer that as an official addon due to the very serious security issues involved [2016-04-12 23:28:03] BitMEX_Sam : That would be essentially opening our users up to a sanctioned XSS [2016-04-12 23:28:18] BitMEX_Sam : However, if users are advanced enough, and do the diligence of reading the script beforehand, I don't see why not [2016-04-12 23:29:47] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I've added a window.BitMEX object to Testnet, it will be live in a few minutes [2016-04-12 23:29:55] BitMEX_Sam : Items in that object will eventually make it to production [2016-04-12 23:38:12] rapidtrades : tis a good day to short shitcoins [2016-04-12 23:38:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Very cool, thank you! Sounds like there's good stuff inside that object [2016-04-12 23:53:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: So I would do window.BitMEX.getDataStream("orderBook10:XBT24H") ? I'm not sure how I'd go about getting updates from that. Sorry my JS is a bit rusty [2016-04-12 23:54:13] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: It's a https://nodejs.org/api/events.html [2016-04-12 23:54:21] BitMEX_Sam : EventEmitter - attach an `.on(callback)` [2016-04-12 23:54:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Sweet, thanks! [2016-04-13 00:00:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Do I need to start the connection somehow? Nothing from `window.BitMEX.getDataStream("orderBook10:XBT24H").on('update', (data) => { console.log(data); });` [2016-04-13 00:00:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm probably making a dumb mistake [2016-04-13 00:00:17] BitMEX_Sam : It'll be `.on('data')` [2016-04-13 00:01:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Woohoo it's working! [2016-04-13 00:01:35] BitMEX_Sam : :) `window.BitMEX.getDataStream('orderBook').on('data', console.log.bind(console))` [2016-04-13 00:04:03] BitMEX_Sam : The subscription format is `table[:symbol][:action]` [2016-04-13 00:17:58] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: hey margin calls on eth are done on mark price right? not bid/ask? [2016-04-13 00:20:45] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Liquidations are always done on mark price [2016-04-13 01:09:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.01702 [2016-04-13 01:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01686 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 01:22:28] 1z6 : Will the insurance fun always be pooled? [2016-04-13 01:23:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.01711 [2016-04-13 01:30:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.01728 [2016-04-13 01:43:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.01745 [2016-04-13 02:07:03] yerb : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good effort i hope you figure it out [2016-04-13 02:36:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.01686 [2016-04-13 03:29:21] JASONDBA : 1 [2016-04-13 03:30:33] cryptokeeper : 2 [2016-04-13 03:33:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 3 [2016-04-13 03:41:40] cryptokeeper : FLOOR [2016-04-13 03:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 32 @ 0.01669 [2016-04-13 03:50:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01665 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 03:51:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 662 @ 0.01659 [2016-04-13 03:53:19] micmix : yikes [2016-04-13 03:53:22] cryptokeeper : oh wow everybody going massive short on eth [2016-04-13 03:53:48] cryptokeeper : this is a buy zone/support [2016-04-13 03:55:08] micmix : well people were saying 0.025 is support, it will never go below. then it was 0.022, 0.020, and 0.018 [2016-04-13 03:55:39] cryptokeeper : 0.18-0.17 many thought ya [2016-04-13 03:56:58] cryptokeeper : should be interesting either way [2016-04-13 03:57:15] cryptokeeper : I still think we have not seen the massive sell offs and this may be a slow bleed over time. but who knows. [2016-04-13 03:58:34] micmix : the real test will be 0.008-0.001 area. that's were most ppl bought who were early on the pump [2016-04-13 03:58:45] cryptokeeper : that is true [2016-04-13 03:58:54] micmix : sorry, 0.008-0.01 [2016-04-13 03:59:04] cryptokeeper : was talking to a few who also thought this could go right to .008.... i dunno too soon if it does me thinks [2016-04-13 04:01:19] micmix : main pumpers cashed out long ago on finex [2016-04-13 04:02:44] micmix : it will still go up and down and we might see another pump [2016-04-13 04:02:50] cryptokeeper : for what? ETH? Did they just dump on them from like polo or something? [2016-04-13 04:03:17] cryptokeeper : I am also trading on kraken.... tons of liquidity there..... many pumpers still on there but just have been shorting. [2016-04-13 04:03:39] micmix : most ETH was sold for BTC on kraken and finex [2016-04-13 04:03:47] micmix : pumping was done on polo [2016-04-13 04:03:56] cryptokeeper : Yea.... Kraken actually asked me if I wanted to buy 20k ETH [2016-04-13 04:04:02] cryptokeeper : at market... and it was around 2900 [2016-04-13 04:04:13] cryptokeeper : whoever bought that... rekt [2016-04-13 04:04:46] cryptokeeper : Yeah, did you see the polo cold wallets? they were at like 80k mid march and declined all the way down to 4500 right now [2016-04-13 04:05:04] cryptokeeper : so everybody is pretty much out there on lagionex [2016-04-13 04:05:45] micmix : yes, I saw that. I was also watching buy/sell volumes on polo, kraken and finex [2016-04-13 04:06:06] cryptokeeper : finex should of had margin, do you know how many people would of went there [2016-04-13 04:06:20] micmix : that's why I said that most eth was sold for btc on kraken and finex [2016-04-13 04:06:28] cryptokeeper : roger. [2016-04-13 04:08:33] micmix : polo makes it easy to pump with the way their margin trading works. you can't reduce your short position when you get below 40% margin, you can only close it completely by buying at market [2016-04-13 04:09:13] cryptokeeper : haha omg [2016-04-13 04:09:30] moneypakyaw : If you want to know which coin is going to pump you should use this tool: http://cointrading3.com/ [2016-04-13 04:09:58] cryptokeeper : micmix; I like kraken's FIFO. worked great. [2016-04-13 04:10:54] micmix : doge pump was done by completely depleting doge supply available for lending then screwing all shorts. doge went all the way to 138 [2016-04-13 04:11:03] cryptokeeper : that's brutal they couldn't reduce. Any other exchanges do that? [2016-04-13 04:11:07] cryptokeeper : interesting [2016-04-13 04:11:36] cryptokeeper : seriously.... Will we even see lagionex in 2017. That is the question... They made so much off ETH and others I am sure but still. [2016-04-13 04:13:04] micmix : they will be around. great place for p&d, so people will give them money [2016-04-13 04:23:59] podizzle3k : im surprised the eth bots havent packed up and left [2016-04-13 04:26:06] micmix : podizzle3k: why would they? I'm sure they are making money on that volatility. I see enough buys and sells here [2016-04-13 04:27:57] cryptokeeper : the spreads are crazy on here though for eth [2016-04-13 04:28:11] cryptokeeper : sometimes you see the odd one on the book thats tigher. [2016-04-13 04:32:14] micmix : main MM quotes with 0.00022 spread. it's 1.2%, a bit high but not surprising considering volatity [2016-04-13 04:32:51] micmix : *volatility [2016-04-13 04:40:40] cryptokeeper : Given the volatility I suppose yea [2016-04-13 05:26:34] kosai19 : you guys sound like you know what you're doing :) [2016-04-13 06:06:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 20 @ 424.86 [2016-04-13 06:08:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10000 @ 424.23 [2016-04-13 06:08:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 424.20 [2016-04-13 06:08:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 51 @ 424.19 [2016-04-13 06:08:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ouch [2016-04-13 06:09:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wasn't me but that must hurt. Especially the 10k contracts [2016-04-13 06:09:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 20 @ 424.04 [2016-04-13 06:09:31] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet: [2016-04-13 06:10:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol [2016-04-13 06:16:04] cryptokeeper : lel [2016-04-13 06:16:27] cryptokeeper : 10,000 should be classified as mega rekt :P [2016-04-13 06:17:51] micmix : mega starts from 15k but I should probably reduce that because we don't get that many big positions anymore [2016-04-13 06:18:38] cryptokeeper : heh is that your liquidations bot? [2016-04-13 06:18:49] cryptokeeper : I guess they lost and left. [2016-04-13 06:23:04] micmix : yes, I run the REKT bot [2016-04-13 06:23:46] micmix : we had 4 mega rekts, 1 epic rekt and 1 rektosaurus in the last 30 days [2016-04-13 06:24:08] micmix : volatility was really low [2016-04-13 06:29:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: What's a rektosaurus? [2016-04-13 06:30:21] micmix : REALLY big REKT, 100k+ [2016-04-13 06:35:12] cryptokeeper : hahaha thats funny [2016-04-13 06:35:25] cryptokeeper : mega rekt 15k to what? epic rekt is what? [2016-04-13 06:35:53] cryptokeeper : too bad a .wav couldn't play after that... do like a mortal kombat.. FINISH HIM !!! [2016-04-13 06:40:12] micmix : mega 15k-40k, epic 40k-100k [2016-04-13 07:01:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 4500 @ 424.22 [2016-04-13 07:07:21] teammate : hello? [2016-04-13 07:16:41] bigs21024 : 1Hx81HBoW7N9sSW4WUYU7npzGdcrVAqLDH [2016-04-13 07:16:50] bigs21024 : Bitcoin please [2016-04-13 07:17:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : This isn't a faucet, it's an exchange [2016-04-13 07:18:23] bigs21024 : It's shot lol [2016-04-13 07:18:36] bigs21024 : I know what it is [2016-04-13 07:18:48] bigs21024 : Thanks [2016-04-13 08:55:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1500 @ 0.01771 [2016-04-13 09:05:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 423.87 [2016-04-13 09:38:25] Samirum : Hello guys [2016-04-13 10:02:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 423.59 [2016-04-13 10:03:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2 @ 423.41 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 10:34:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01829 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 10:40:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1674 @ 423.26 [2016-04-13 10:58:20] hitme1 : eth trading at a premium [2016-04-13 11:57:40] deriidf : hi [2016-04-13 12:54:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 295 @ 0.01855 [2016-04-13 12:56:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 8806 @ 423.74 [2016-04-13 12:57:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 20 @ 423.22 [2016-04-13 12:59:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 62 @ 0.01872 [2016-04-13 13:05:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.01889 [2016-04-13 13:13:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5000 @ 422.73 [2016-04-13 13:14:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 422.09 [2016-04-13 13:14:25] habibi : rekt city! :0 [2016-04-13 13:22:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.01936 [2016-04-13 13:33:40] rentchev : I am making the market on ETH right now :-) [2016-04-13 13:33:49] rentchev : only 0.00001 spread [2016-04-13 13:34:02] habibi : covering short ;)? [2016-04-13 13:34:24] rentchev : no [2016-04-13 13:34:28] rentchev : I am the seller on the ask [2016-04-13 13:34:38] rentchev : but the bid disapeared [2016-04-13 13:35:25] rentchev : he he [2016-04-13 13:35:51] j8 : anyone have a referral for quoine? not sure what it's good for [2016-04-13 13:36:10] rentchev : what is quoine? [2016-04-13 13:36:28] j8 : its an exchange based in japan i think [2016-04-13 13:37:35] rentchev : thanks [2016-04-13 13:38:26] j8 : lots of pairs and 0 fees for now [2016-04-13 13:38:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.01966 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 13:42:09] viptrader : holy shit [2016-04-13 13:42:16] viptrader : ETH PANIC DUMP ON CONTRACTS [2016-04-13 13:57:28] rentchev : well not really panic [2016-04-13 13:57:35] rentchev : it went up too much to fast [2016-04-13 13:57:38] rentchev : retracing now [2016-04-13 14:20:56] cryptokeeper : yea [2016-04-13 14:22:49] sleger : my chart says eth7d but shows XBTM16 [2016-04-13 14:23:11] sleger : (refresh fixed it) [2016-04-13 14:31:05] cryptostephen : is there a PnL calc on here [2016-04-13 14:32:24] habibi : cryptostephen: https://scr.hu/6ayV8q [2016-04-13 14:32:41] BitMEX_Greg : Hey @sleger, can you please take a screenshot next time? I'll forward it to Sam to check [2016-04-13 14:33:09] cryptostephen : thank u [2016-04-13 14:33:10] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/g32al Greg screenshot from yesterday with same action [2016-04-13 14:33:10] sleger : just look at the m16 graph and imagine the title saying Chart (ETH7D) [2016-04-13 14:33:12] cryptostephen : :) [2016-04-13 14:34:02] BitMEX_Sam : I've seen it before myself - with every TradingView release it's two steps forward, one step back [2016-04-13 14:34:26] BitMEX_Sam : I'll put some code in to verify the chart actually switches symbols when it's told to, and if it doesn't, I'll have it restart to force it [2016-04-13 14:35:47] BitMEX_Greg : Do you guys use the advanced or basic layout btw? [2016-04-13 14:39:01] podizzle3k : advanced [2016-04-13 14:40:26] BitMEX_Sam : vehnom: https://github.com/facebook/react-devtools/pull/361 [2016-04-13 14:42:03] podizzle3k : why does it seem like some of my ETH7d profit is going straight to my wallet and then some is being withheld [2016-04-13 14:42:10] podizzle3k : id expect it all to be withheld until friday [2016-04-13 14:42:20] BombaUcigasa : Where does it say? [2016-04-13 14:42:25] podizzle3k : not that im complaining just seems odd [2016-04-13 14:42:28] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#contract-settlement-rebalance [2016-04-13 14:42:43] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially, we implemented a new feature about a month back that selectively unlocks portions of withheld profit when it is safe to do so [2016-04-13 14:42:57] BombaUcigasa : Is it profit or maintenance margin? [2016-04-13 14:43:01] BitMEX_Sam : Profit only [2016-04-13 14:43:24] BombaUcigasa : Interesting, so now you double down with the acquired profits and not wait for the lock to expire? [2016-04-13 14:44:39] podizzle3k : i see thanks sam [2016-04-13 14:48:23] BitMEX_Sam : BombaUcigasa: It only happens if there is 0% DPE and a significant buffer. The engine does its own internal risk calculations and unlocks a portion, but only if it is absolutely safe to do so [2016-04-13 14:54:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01906 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-13 14:54:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1008 @ 0.01891 [2016-04-13 15:22:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.01938 [2016-04-13 15:32:56] deltaflyer : Hi [2016-04-13 15:35:18] BitMEX_Sam : Hi deltaflyer [2016-04-13 15:45:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.01982 [2016-04-13 16:12:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 950 @ 0.02030 [2016-04-13 16:19:32] stockpimp : BitMEX-Sam Hey Sam; I just started using my account with Bitmex yesterday and so far I like the format etc. Could you direct me to the charting functions. Obviously polo or what ever as well as TV have ETH charts but they don't seem to have your ETH7D chart etc. Cheers [2016-04-13 16:20:44] rentchev : @BitMEX_Greg advanced layout. It's great [2016-04-13 16:24:13] stockpimp : but I still don't see where the charting is? Sorry to be so thick on this one [2016-04-13 16:27:31] BitMEX_Greg : stockpimp: Hi, so you are looking for the tradingview chart of the ETH7D? [2016-04-13 16:28:08] stockpimp : ANY chart of ETH7D. TV or on your site is fine [2016-04-13 16:28:54] BitMEX_Sam : stockpimp: Should be right in front of you, if you have ETH7D selected [2016-04-13 16:29:02] BitMEX_Sam : It's in the middle in the Basic layout, toward the right on the Advanced layout [2016-04-13 16:29:55] stockpimp : it's not. I use Chrome on Linux.... maybe that's the issue? IS it a Java thing? [2016-04-13 16:30:18] nip : BitMEX_Sam: a problem i often have is the chart plots the wrong purple line for mark price. That throws off the scale of the chart. for example plotting a purple line around 425 for eth or the sept/jun contracts [2016-04-13 16:30:35] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks nip, I'll take a look at it [2016-04-13 16:30:39] BitMEX_Sam : stockpimp: Nope, not a plugin [2016-04-13 16:30:40] nip : it makes the y scale so wide everything looks like a horizontal line [2016-04-13 16:33:06] stockpimp : ok.... found it. It's in a box off my screen and need to be "enabled" Cheers! Thanx guys! Sorry for the noob stuff but this one's a little important lol [2016-04-13 16:33:09] nip : Is it supposed to be the mark price or indicative settle price? [2016-04-13 16:33:44] BitMEX_Sam : It's the indicative settle price (index price) [2016-04-13 16:35:29] nip : in that case when it shows the XBT one on ETH it would be a bug. on the jun/sept xbt contracts i guess it is working as intended (although making the y range so large makes the chart useless) [2016-04-13 16:40:48] Samirum : Please how do I closed my position [2016-04-13 16:41:03] sleger : do reverse trade [2016-04-13 16:41:25] Samirum : sleger: You mean opposite order [2016-04-13 16:41:48] sleger : which will do an opposite trade [2016-04-13 16:42:11] nip : Samirum: just try to go long and short equal amounts [2016-04-13 16:42:37] nip : they will offset [2016-04-13 16:42:40] sleger : for 300 china a50 ? [2016-04-13 16:42:42] Samirum : OK, I understand [2016-04-13 16:42:53] Samirum : Thanks [2016-04-13 16:43:25] nip : what about china a50? that is my 2nd favorite contract behind factums [2016-04-13 16:43:44] sleger : im sure it is [2016-04-13 16:44:13] nip : are you the market maker for that one? [2016-04-13 16:44:30] sleger : no [2016-04-13 16:44:43] nip : im all of the open interest (market maker is the other side) [2016-04-13 16:44:53] nip : but i think i will give up on it because the fees are way too high [2016-04-13 16:45:46] nip : its a cool idea but sgx fees are maybe 30 times smaller [2016-04-13 16:48:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.01983 [2016-04-13 16:48:40] nip : around 0.01% with no settlement fee [2016-04-13 17:20:06] BitMEX_Greg : nip: Heya nip, the benefit however being that you can trade in bitcoin, and not having to worry about signing up to a broker etc [2016-04-13 17:28:05] nip : BitMEX_Greg: yeah that is definitely a benefit [2016-04-13 17:28:37] nip : it also has lower maintenance margin and trades all the time [2016-04-13 17:30:00] nip : but there is a limit to how high the fee can be and how wide the spread before the benefits we mentioned are outweighed [2016-04-13 17:39:11] BitMEX_Greg : Understand, however if you need a quote from the MM we can always contact them for you to get a price for you [2016-04-13 18:05:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02019 [2016-04-13 19:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 309 @ 0.01928 [2016-04-13 21:39:36] nip : huobi [2016-04-13 21:44:47] aethlios : many new contracts on testnet, daily eth and 24h-48h spread any estimation when will go live?? [2016-04-13 21:45:14] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: We're working on some modifications, something very interesting in the pipeline [2016-04-13 21:45:22] BitMEX_Sam : We'll make a formal announcement when it's finished [2016-04-13 21:46:24] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Great! Take your time, and keep an eye on Lisk!!!! [2016-04-13 21:46:42] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Have had an eye on it... lots of altcoin action these days [2016-04-13 22:23:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 434 @ 0.01913 [2016-04-13 22:48:39] uiop : etherbux etherbuxing [2016-04-13 23:16:08] viptrader : BitMEX_Sam: are we going to see MAID anytime soon? [2016-04-13 23:35:17] BitMEX_Greg : viptrader: We are always looking for new products to list as long as a number of traders are interested in trading it. Do you trade MAID on Polo or other exchanges? [2016-04-14 00:08:54] nip : i would trade madesafe or monero or ltc [2016-04-14 00:09:54] habibi : altmex as a future platform for polo margin coins [2016-04-14 00:11:08] micmix : I think I mentioned maidsafe couple weeks ago, said that volatility is coming. factom was added a bit late, when main pumpers already exited [2016-04-14 00:13:20] micmix : it will be too late to add maidsafe in a week or two, will be dead as fct [2016-04-14 00:15:45] micmix : I don't think BitMEX should chase altcoins at , they will be too late all the time unless they start adding every altcoin like polo does [2016-04-14 00:15:58] micmix : *at all [2016-04-14 00:25:43] j8 : and then they get delisted because no one trades them, and THEN they pump [2016-04-14 01:13:55] cryptokeeper : agreed [2016-04-14 01:35:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 311 @ 0.01947 [2016-04-14 01:36:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.01965 [2016-04-14 02:24:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.01938 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 03:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 190 @ 0.01967 [2016-04-14 03:27:48] cryptokeeper : should be about time for people to get riggity rekt. [2016-04-14 05:50:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 91 @ 0.01999 [2016-04-14 05:50:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 455 @ 0.01999 [2016-04-14 07:24:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 432 @ 0.02022 [2016-04-14 08:17:40] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: when will trailing stops / OCO orders be available? [2016-04-14 08:35:40] BitMEX_Arthur : There are many order types that are available through the API and not the front end yet [2016-04-14 08:36:25] BitMEX_Arthur : Sam is focuses on internationalising the platform for other languages so we won't be making any major UI updates until that is done [2016-04-14 08:36:35] 1QaZxSw2 : link to api please? [2016-04-14 08:37:43] BitMEX_Arthur : If you go to the Help section you will see more info about our API [2016-04-14 08:38:17] 1QaZxSw2 : got it, thanks [2016-04-14 08:53:40] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Arthur: thx for your response. i thought one main point of the new UI was to be able to provide these order types, but may i don't remember correctly [2016-04-14 08:54:01] mrp1nk : * i may [2016-04-14 08:54:39] mrp1nk : grrr.. may = maybe [2016-04-14 09:02:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.02026 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 11:36:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.01996 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 11:52:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.00298 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 12:02:16] podizzle3k : daily roll lookin a little slim :) [2016-04-14 12:03:46] podizzle3k : selling some cheap get it while its hot [2016-04-14 12:04:01] podizzle3k : dont miss the halving pump! act now! [2016-04-14 12:22:00] blackwhite : what ar u talking about? [2016-04-14 12:22:54] blackwhite : I tried the daily futures some time ago. They expire too soon. Not comfortable [2016-04-14 12:25:29] blackwhite : the pump is due when precisely? [2016-04-14 12:25:38] blackwhite : by your op [2016-04-14 12:28:57] mrp1nk : blackwhite: you can use the longer running contracts, for example 7d [2016-04-14 12:29:13] blackwhite : i do ) [2016-04-14 12:41:05] jksl123 : ermm guys [2016-04-14 12:41:20] jksl123 : how do you deposit bitcoin? [2016-04-14 12:44:24] blackwhite : press Account press Deposit [2016-04-14 12:44:36] blackwhite : then you have an address to deposit to [2016-04-14 12:45:39] blackwhite : then make someone deposit on this address [2016-04-14 12:45:45] blackwhite : ))) [2016-04-14 13:19:03] blackwhite : Bitmex team. When can i expect my withdrawal to be executed? [2016-04-14 13:19:11] blackwhite : requested yestrday [2016-04-14 13:27:18] blackwhite : ok see 0 confirmation. will wait [2016-04-14 14:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01978 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 15:27:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01969 :punch: :whale: [2016-04-14 16:47:18] Rasign : hello guys [2016-04-14 17:03:28] BitMEX_Greg : Hi Rasign [2016-04-14 17:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 296 @ 0.01917 [2016-04-15 00:27:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : Why has btc stopped trading? [2016-04-15 00:27:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nothing on major exhcanges [2016-04-15 00:27:45] BitMEX_Greg : The calm before the storm? Settlement friday today too [2016-04-15 00:51:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok this should start shaking things up [2016-04-15 02:57:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 26 @ 426.38 [2016-04-15 03:04:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 426.77 [2016-04-15 03:04:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1000 @ 426.70 [2016-04-15 03:42:18] podizzle3k : lets see who longed the top [2016-04-15 03:55:20] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/720822614437011456 [2016-04-15 04:04:18] podizzle3k : how about no [2016-04-15 04:22:03] yerb : whats wrong with daily roll orderbook? [2016-04-15 04:23:03] yerb : any bitmex guys here? [2016-04-15 04:24:18] BitMEX_Arthur : yerb: How can I help [2016-04-15 04:25:24] yerb : a minute ago orderbook in daily roll was quite empty i was wondering what was wrong with it, but now it seems ok [2016-04-15 04:27:44] yerb : anyway, i think there is too many BTC contracts and people are too spread so there is not much liquidity in any of them.. [2016-04-15 04:28:19] BitMEX_Arthur : yerb: We know we are working on a futures contract that will have no expiry, the first iteration will be released on Ethereum [2016-04-15 04:28:31] BitMEX_Arthur : Give it a few weeks and we believe we will have a solution [2016-04-15 04:29:08] yerb : wouldnt it be better to have one "XBU" contract with 50x so everybody would be trade there [2016-04-15 04:29:48] BitMEX_Arthur : XBU's leverage will be kept low most likely because it is used for hedging [2016-04-15 04:29:51] BitMEX_Arthur : and we guarantee settlement [2016-04-15 04:30:50] yerb : ok but no expiry contract would be good for hedging right? [2016-04-15 04:33:31] yerb : no expiry would be good, how much leverage are you thinking there? [2016-04-15 04:33:59] BitMEX_Arthur : yerb: Same as it is now, 3.33x to open a position and you are liquidated when your leverage exceeds 5x [2016-04-15 04:34:51] yerb : hmm, will you remove other contracts? [2016-04-15 04:35:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes there will only be one contract per underlying [2016-04-15 04:36:57] yerb : if there was only one 25x quarterly contract that would be enough i guess [2016-04-15 04:39:48] yerb : i really like your platform and the interface, and the responsivnes of your team, i was trading on OKC before but i dont trust that exchange.. i would hate to move there again due to lask of a decent contract here [2016-04-15 04:40:09] BitMEX_Arthur : yerb: What do you normally trade? [2016-04-15 04:40:29] yerb : BTC and ETH [2016-04-15 04:40:51] yerb : oh you mean contract [2016-04-15 04:41:25] yerb : mostly daily roll an daily, sometimes weekly [2016-04-15 04:42:08] yerb : i tryed 24 jun but i got burned because of huge spread [2016-04-15 04:43:47] yerb : on OKC i was trading quarterly only [2016-04-15 04:44:41] yerb : i hate the pressure of expiry [2016-04-15 04:44:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Well we hope this new contract type will make it easier for everyone [2016-04-15 04:48:27] yerb : what do you think about offering one quarterly 25x or 50x contract similar to OKC quarterly and removing everything else? [2016-04-15 04:48:54] BitMEX_Arthur : As you said expiry sucks, we want to make it super easy, so trading on BitMEX is just like trading spot on margin [2016-04-15 04:48:57] BitMEX_Arthur : accept we offer higher leverage [2016-04-15 04:49:20] yerb : yeah that would be great :) [2016-04-15 06:01:29] Jay_Rico : Want to sell [2016-04-15 06:03:03] Luis_ : Want to sell [2016-04-15 06:04:35] Luis_ : Wants to sell call 682-222-3491 [2016-04-15 06:08:09] nip : what are we selling? [2016-04-15 06:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 130 @ 0.01971 [2016-04-15 06:55:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.01991 [2016-04-15 07:14:49] nip : oh must be confusion with the bitmex name again [2016-04-15 08:32:09] Samirum : BitMEX_Arthur: great move, expiry really sucks [2016-04-15 08:32:23] Samirum : I like bitmex [2016-04-15 08:40:23] habibi : what move Samirum? [2016-04-15 08:47:02] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: We are looking into launching a non-expiring product [2016-04-15 08:47:46] BitMEX_Wally : Rather than having expiry and settlement there would just be daily funding fee that would be paid by longs and given to the shorts [2016-04-15 08:47:53] habibi : no settlement, just rebalances? [2016-04-15 08:48:08] habibi : ah interesing :) [2016-04-15 08:48:24] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and then a weekly rebalance so you can withdraw PNL and to clear any DPE [2016-04-15 08:48:54] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: non-expiring future for bitcoin or for eth and others? [2016-04-15 08:49:22] BitMEX_Wally : For ETHXBT first, then Bitcoin etc [2016-04-15 08:49:25] j8 : how is the daily funding fee determined? would there be a market for that [2016-04-15 08:50:29] BitMEX_Wally : We will reference a funding market like Poloniex or Bitfinex [2016-04-15 08:50:32] micmix : is it going to be quanto, linear or inverse? [2016-04-15 08:51:08] BitMEX_Wally : We will try it out on ETHXBT first which is linear, and we would use a 24 hour average of the depth weighted offer to borrow 1000 XBT on Poloniex [2016-04-15 08:51:53] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. currently around 0.05% per day [2016-04-15 08:51:56] micmix : yeah, I don't know how to trade that, will be out most likely [2016-04-15 08:52:13] micmix : unpredictable funding fee [2016-04-15 08:52:32] BitMEX_Wally : We will take a 24 hour average and then apply that to the next 24 hours [2016-04-15 08:52:47] BitMEX_Wally : So you know the funding fee 24 hours in advance [2016-04-15 08:53:10] BitMEX_Wally : Should be easy for market makers to borrow/lend at this fee [2016-04-15 08:53:38] micmix : knowing the fee in advance will help [2016-04-15 08:54:14] BitMEX_Wally : Let us know your ideas, we want to make it really easy to market make [2016-04-15 08:54:16] j8 : means anyone trading less than 1000 btc would pay less for leverage at polo on average [2016-04-15 08:54:52] micmix : how is the daily fee applied if I'm switching short/long multiple times per day? [2016-04-15 08:54:59] BitMEX_Wally : We chose 1000 XBT and 24 hours so it would not be manipulated by little swings [2016-04-15 08:55:20] BitMEX_Wally : Current idea is that anyone who is long at 12:00 UTC would pay it, and anyone who is short at that time would receive it [2016-04-15 08:55:40] BitMEX_Wally : j8: The longs will pay it because they get more leverage here [2016-04-15 08:56:45] micmix : interesting, so bots will dump longs to avoid paying the fee before 12:00 [2016-04-15 08:57:01] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah just like bonds, they get traded at the dirty price just before the coupon cut-off [2016-04-15 08:57:40] BitMEX_Wally : Will probably trade just like XBT24H in that in each 24 hour cycle it starts out with a basis that decays [2016-04-15 08:58:26] j8 : sounds good for altcoins, something else is needed for the XBT series though [2016-04-15 08:59:19] BitMEX_Wally : j8: We could take the USD funding rate from Bitfinex and offer a higher-leveraged XBU? [2016-04-15 08:59:47] micmix : I would try it out on the altcoin first. Personally I'm scared to trade quanto XBT with daily funding until I get the math right [2016-04-15 09:00:05] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Understood :) [2016-04-15 09:00:49] micmix : yes, XBU is a zombie anyway, maybe experiment with it first [2016-04-15 09:01:24] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, we will leave `XBU7D` alone while we experiment [2016-04-15 09:01:39] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: that would be fine, it's definitely appealing to have a persistent contract instead of daily expiring. i'd prefer to keep a long dated XBT series, and best case scenario is they would all roll into eachother [2016-04-15 09:01:56] BitMEX_Wally : Goal is to concentrate all XBT liquidity into 1 contract so people do not need to worry about expiries, rolliing, etc [2016-04-15 09:02:17] micmix : might kill arb strategies though [2016-04-15 09:03:32] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure what to call this `ETHXBT` product, I think it's closest to a swap [2016-04-15 09:03:40] BitMEX_Wally : Because you get the cash flows and pay funding [2016-04-15 09:03:53] BitMEX_Wally : You can always arb this swap against spot [2016-04-15 09:04:23] micmix : if I'm thinking about it right, MMs will run it very close to spot [2016-04-15 09:05:25] BitMEX_Wally : That's the plan [2016-04-15 09:05:41] micmix : for linear futures anyway, except for a short period before 12 [2016-04-15 09:06:28] micmix : not sure about quanto, I don't think I ever saw quanto with daily funding. will have to do the math ;-) [2016-04-15 09:06:32] BitMEX_Wally : If the daily funding rate is 0.05% then I suspect at 12:01 it will trade at a 0.05% premium to spot, and this basis will decay linearly until 11:59 when it will match spot [2016-04-15 09:07:52] micmix : yes, and you can calculate expected funding rate for the next day in advance [2016-04-15 09:08:59] micmix : is there anything similar on the crypto market? [2016-04-15 09:10:07] j8 : quanto with daily funding has no lending market to reference. maybe bitmex will have to lead on that. i guess long dated futures would be equivalent to securing funding at a fixed rate for a longer period [2016-04-15 09:10:58] micmix : the closest I know is BTCC Pro exchange: https://www.btcc.com/fees [2016-04-15 09:11:49] micmix : not quanto futures though [2016-04-15 09:12:02] j8 : i was thinking about that, it's linear cny denominated right? [2016-04-15 09:12:09] micmix : yep [2016-04-15 09:13:16] j8 : have they managed to get decent liquidity yet/ [2016-04-15 09:15:49] micmix : they have liquidity but I think they source it from their spot exchange [2016-04-15 09:18:13] micmix : you can check it out without registering an account: https://trade.btcc.com/ [2016-04-15 09:19:16] j8 : i see [2016-04-15 09:43:20] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: if there is no settlement then what relates the contract price to the underlying? doesn't there need to be a sort of "claim" function [2016-04-15 09:52:41] habibi : rebalance [2016-04-15 09:55:46] j8 : doesn't matter since it's only your profit on paper, not what you can trade out at [2016-04-15 10:01:53] j8 : unless it is effectively a settlement with an auto-roll using the daily funding rate [2016-04-15 10:05:11] j8 : i guess that's what it is. [2016-04-15 10:08:02] BitMEX_Arthur : j8: Well it will be marked to spot [2016-04-15 10:08:14] BitMEX_Arthur : if you wish to bid higher or offer lower then you must cover the difference with equity [2016-04-15 10:16:19] j8 : but in a situation where, for some reason, it was consistently trading 10% over spot.. could you cash and carry it for 10% daily? or you would only get the reference funding rate [2016-04-15 10:17:03] BitMEX_Arthur : You only get the reference funding rate, and each week your unrealised 10% mark to spot gain as a seller would be realised into actual bitcoin you could withdraw [2016-04-15 10:18:19] BitMEX_Arthur : And the premium or discount would be fully collateralised by the side over paying or under selling [2016-04-15 10:19:37] j8 : i see, i think that makes sense, it's the middle of the night for me :) [2016-04-15 10:19:51] BitMEX_Arthur : j8: :smile: [2016-04-15 10:23:37] j8 : actually, it's morning and i didn't realize it [2016-04-15 11:07:56] trestres : BitMEX_Arthur: no chance to have ETH quarterly even with smaller than 25x ( 5x or 10x) ? [2016-04-15 11:10:36] BitMEX_Arthur : trestres: The goal is to eliminate expiries [2016-04-15 11:10:43] BitMEX_Arthur : They confuse too many traders and split liquidity [2016-04-15 11:11:02] trestres : thank you [2016-04-15 11:11:03] BitMEX_Arthur : If you desire a long term trade, you will be able to hold the non-deliverable eth contract as long as you wish [2016-04-15 11:11:12] BitMEX_Arthur : and then exit [2016-04-15 11:11:20] trestres : true [2016-04-15 11:15:35] blackwhite : I only started to understand how the quanto work, and you guys want to reset everything to the beginning... [2016-04-15 11:16:15] BitMEX_Arthur : blackwhite: Well we want to make trading on BitMEX feel like trading spot on margin [2016-04-15 11:16:16] blackwhite : I don't like settlement too, but quarter futures are ok, not often to settle [2016-04-15 11:16:36] BitMEX_Arthur : Expiries split up the liquidity and drive more people away from BitMEX [2016-04-15 11:16:58] blackwhite : you should add, not remove contracts, if you asked me [2016-04-15 11:21:52] trestres : it is not easy to find quanto quaterly... you are the best on it .... to trade spot on margin you will have more competitors [2016-04-15 11:28:24] MrWade : "In the future, Arthur hopes Bitmex can become a fully-featured trading platform, with offerings including stocks, bonds, commodities, and currency trading"....this vision is what drew me in. Hope to see it swing that way with long dated futures offered. just my 2cents. Congrats on T.I.A. award. [2016-04-15 11:30:08] Cryptolicious : when will eth be settled [2016-04-15 11:32:48] mrp1nk : moon plz [2016-04-15 11:36:09] hitme1 : Cryptolicious: 25 mins [2016-04-15 11:36:17] hitme1 : @12:00 [2016-04-15 11:37:01] BitMEX_Arthur : trestres: It won't be spot on margin, but will feel like it, the leverage will still be a lot higher than you can find on any margin trading platform [2016-04-15 11:42:41] blackwhite : trestres: Exactly. Many more places to trade spot. Quanto made it interesting [2016-04-15 11:43:50] blackwhite : + inverse too. How much time I was looking at parabolic charts! way more interesting than to drink and sleep. [2016-04-15 11:44:02] BitMEX_Arthur : The payoffs won't change [2016-04-15 11:44:11] BitMEX_Arthur : you will still have the convexity [2016-04-15 11:50:07] hitme1 : ETH settles at polo's price? [2016-04-15 11:51:30] blackwhite : I think, to model spot trading you could have a kind of dollar-linear contract (XBU) with high leverage, meaning DPE/risky setup, and which rebalances like every day to an underlying index, without position clearing. It would work for the long-term players [2016-04-15 11:53:14] blackwhite : Giving the day's theta to the guy who slipped in for some minutes around 12:00 - it is weird. [2016-04-15 11:53:25] blackwhite : Sorry if I am too sticky [2016-04-15 11:53:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Same as a bond. The price will trade at the interest rate expected [2016-04-15 12:14:14] yerb : something is wrong on daily chart, it shows a neutral position even tho im not in any position [2016-04-15 12:23:29] mrp1nk : yerb: do you have any buy/sell orders placed? [2016-04-15 16:07:47] nip : BitMEX_Arthur: the new swap contract sounds very good. The ability to hold for any period of time without considering settlement and improved liquidity are very appealing to me. you should come up with a name for it that wont confuse people who dont know what a swap is. What fee structure will it use? [2016-04-15 16:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 116 @ 428.68 [2016-04-15 16:41:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 38800 @ 428.51 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-04-15 16:42:12] BombaUcigasa : #nofomo [2016-04-15 16:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 6177 @ 427.95 [2016-04-15 16:59:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 1000 @ 428.71 [2016-04-15 17:12:26] rentchev : wow on that mega REKT [2016-04-15 17:12:33] rentchev : 38800 [2016-04-15 17:13:39] mdrn : shieeet [2016-04-15 19:38:42] Cryptolicious : costs 2BTC on 100x [2016-04-15 19:40:01] j8 : probably was 100x too since we only went to 431 [2016-04-15 19:40:54] Cryptolicious : it went to 436 [2016-04-15 19:41:00] Cryptolicious : here [2016-04-15 19:41:05] j8 : well, someone bought 400 at 436.97 at the open.. lets call that an accident [2016-04-15 19:43:52] j8 : 30 seconds into trading when there's barely any quotes yet [2016-04-15 19:51:26] Cryptolicious : eth bull here [2016-04-15 21:21:27] lockhedge : new swap contract? so a CFD? [2016-04-15 21:38:32] lockhedge : or could this swap be compared to a "rolling turbo"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_(finance) [2016-04-15 21:40:46] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: Interesting, that's a new one for me [2016-04-15 21:40:58] BitMEX_Sam : (of course, finance is not my role on the team) [2016-04-15 22:21:48] 1QaZxSw2 : black white, that sounds like coinpit contract [2016-04-15 22:22:50] 1QaZxSw2 : https://live.coinpit.me/account.html [2016-04-15 22:22:57] 1QaZxSw2 : click on specification [2016-04-15 22:40:50] j8 : interesting, i didn't know about that one. missing some important info though [2016-04-16 00:35:57] 1QaZxSw2 : can someone help me out here, I'm new to bitmex. when is the settlement for the current eth7d contract [2016-04-16 00:37:49] habibi : right up corner [2016-04-16 00:38:26] 1QaZxSw2 : i see, its for all contracts [2016-04-16 00:38:28] 1QaZxSw2 : thx [2016-04-16 00:38:38] habibi : for active one [2016-04-16 00:39:04] 1QaZxSw2 : right i meant, for xbt, etc, fct all [2016-04-16 00:39:26] 1QaZxSw2 : pretty bizarre xbt starts with x, etc and fct dont [2016-04-16 00:39:35] 1QaZxSw2 : they should just call it btc [2016-04-16 00:39:49] 1QaZxSw2 : eth and fct dont [2016-04-16 00:46:10] 1QaZxSw2 : how come the mark price is way different from bid/ask and last price [2016-04-16 00:46:55] 1QaZxSw2 : bid: 0.01877 ask 0.01887, last 0.01880, mark: 0.01910 [2016-04-16 00:47:15] habibi : mark = polo price [2016-04-16 00:47:32] 1QaZxSw2 : ah, i see.... its from another exchange