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[2016-04-09 20:09:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.02195
[2016-04-09 20:24:34] messiaen8844 : 2160-2255 eth spread :P
[2016-04-09 20:36:19] messiaen8844 : whats up with all the spread?
[2016-04-09 20:41:57] habibi : marketmaker wziął wolne
[2016-04-09 21:02:32] yerb : haha this is hilarious spiders on drugs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
[2016-04-09 23:15:55] Skuffone : hey guys what are the white orders ?
[2016-04-09 23:16:42] micmix : Skuffone: on recent trades? means same price as the previous trade
[2016-04-09 23:17:18] Skuffone : ah ok, not liquidation then
[2016-04-09 23:17:40] micmix : no
[2016-04-10 01:55:56] mpkomara : so many liquidations
[2016-04-10 02:15:46] rapidtrades : mpkomara: many is ur long, too few if ur short kekekek
[2016-04-10 02:15:49] rapidtrades : HONK HONK
[2016-04-10 02:17:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : HONK HONK
[2016-04-10 02:17:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's it going?
[2016-04-10 02:18:41] rapidtrades : ok i guess.....shorted that shitcoin eth
[2016-04-10 02:19:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I'm tempted but it's so volatile
[2016-04-10 02:19:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And I'm not sure which way BTC is heading right now which I think has an impact on ETH
[2016-04-10 02:19:55] rapidtrades : yeah my stop is super wide...which means i'll make very little even if it crashes to near 0
[2016-04-10 02:20:43] rapidtrades : i think eth is driving the party for now...if it falls btc will go up
[2016-04-10 02:21:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Yeah I think that's a good guess. I'm still holding on to half of my presale ETH and I would love to turn it into BTC but I think ETH has a good shot at becoming the #2 coin too.
[2016-04-10 02:22:22] rapidtrades : it's already n2....
[2016-04-10 02:23:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I mean in a more permanent sense, but it is valued very high right now... idk. I'm happy with what I cashed out and I think I'll sit on the rest for a while
[2016-04-10 02:28:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I think within the next hour BTC is going to make a more significant move up or down than it has the past several hours, but I'm not sure which way
[2016-04-10 02:37:26] rapidtrades : it prolly wont
[2016-04-10 02:39:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin hasn't moved $2 in the past 16 hours
[2016-04-10 02:41:21] rapidtrades : we've barely moved in the past 3 weeks...its been shit
[2016-04-10 02:43:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Fair enough haha. Maybe I will go long ETH ;)
[2016-04-10 03:11:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: This is the move I was talking about
[2016-04-10 03:15:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not much, but bigger than the rest of the action today
[2016-04-10 03:28:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 626 @ 0.02177
[2016-04-10 05:26:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 130 @ 0.02159
[2016-04-10 05:30:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02145
[2016-04-10 05:32:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 920 @ 0.02128
[2016-04-10 06:09:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2665 @ 0.02079
[2016-04-10 06:09:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.02072
[2016-04-10 06:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1958 @ 0.02064
[2016-04-10 06:11:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 22 @ 0.02070
[2016-04-10 06:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 170 @ 0.02056
[2016-04-10 06:17:19] zanza : RIP Etherbutters
[2016-04-10 06:17:37] nip : i think this is the bottom
[2016-04-10 06:30:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 140 @ 0.02096
[2016-04-10 06:50:41] mpkomara : the streets are RED
[2016-04-10 06:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 730 @ 0.02058
[2016-04-10 08:27:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.00345
[2016-04-10 08:28:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.00341
[2016-04-10 08:31:49] Skuffone : wtf is going on with FCT?
[2016-04-10 08:31:57] Skuffone : I just got liquidated for no readon
[2016-04-10 08:32:01] Skuffone : reason
[2016-04-10 08:42:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ran out of margin and leverage?
[2016-04-10 08:44:50] habibi : Skuffone: price dropped?
[2016-04-10 08:46:23] Skuffone : the in built chart doesnt show it dropping
[2016-04-10 08:46:40] habibi : polo price is one that matters
[2016-04-10 08:47:51] Skuffone : ah
[2016-04-10 10:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 100 @ 421.03
[2016-04-10 10:14:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 40 @ 419.75
[2016-04-10 10:14:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 167 @ 419.70
[2016-04-10 10:17:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 105 @ 422.78
[2016-04-10 10:29:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 18 @ 421.12
[2016-04-10 10:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1200 @ 0.00281
[2016-04-10 11:12:32] habibi : did factom wiped out now whole fund?
[2016-04-10 11:18:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.00265
[2016-04-10 11:19:34] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: No, it has only wiped out the fund for Factom since last rebalance
[2016-04-10 11:19:42] habibi : ah great then :)
[2016-04-10 11:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.01994
[2016-04-10 11:25:38] miramm1115 : Polo API down, get ready for massive shock
[2016-04-10 11:28:02] j8 : that's not good.
[2016-04-10 11:40:36] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i see the FCT liquidation is gone but there's still DPE, was it manually pushed down at a loss?
[2016-04-10 11:43:27] j8 : well it's 0% now for some reason
[2016-04-10 11:43:53] habibi : higher settlement price is the reason
[2016-04-10 11:44:18] j8 : of course it should be zero if the liquidation filled, but for several minutes it wasn't
[2016-04-10 12:22:07] BitMEX_Wally : We manually closed it out at a loss and then allocated 0.2342436 XBT from the insurance fund
[2016-04-10 12:22:29] j8 : gotcha
[2016-04-10 12:24:18] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: what are your thoughts on a separate fund for alts? has come up a few times in the chat
[2016-04-10 12:30:13] BitMEX_Wally : Yes effectively they are seperate
[2016-04-10 12:30:27] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on adding a breakdown to the insurance fund
[2016-04-10 12:32:09] j8 : i see
[2016-04-10 12:34:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1200 @ 0.01954
[2016-04-10 12:42:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 410 @ 0.01940
[2016-04-10 12:48:19] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: where can i see the estimated clawback for ETH7D
[2016-04-10 12:48:34] habibi : no clawback
[2016-04-10 12:48:37] habibi : no worries so far
[2016-04-10 12:48:55] haxmb : great
[2016-04-10 13:01:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 402 @ 0.01898
[2016-04-10 13:02:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.01884
[2016-04-10 13:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.01855
[2016-04-10 13:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.01861
[2016-04-10 13:47:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 22 @ 0.01861
[2016-04-10 14:13:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.01843
[2016-04-10 14:16:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.01824 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-10 14:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5736 @ 0.01818
[2016-04-10 14:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.01807
[2016-04-10 14:19:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.01798
[2016-04-10 14:20:04] BitMEX_Sam : Rough market
[2016-04-10 14:20:34] habibi : insurance fund alright Sam ? market is great :)
[2016-04-10 14:21:33] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, everything's good.
[2016-04-10 14:21:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.01780
[2016-04-10 14:22:09] j8 : looks like it got a decent contribution from yesterday
[2016-04-10 14:27:34] capncook : polo is untradable atm, mass panic
[2016-04-10 14:29:09] habibi : ddos.
[2016-04-10 14:29:55] capncook : charts still work kinda though
[2016-04-10 14:30:07] habibi : not really
[2016-04-10 14:30:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.01762
[2016-04-10 14:38:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 175 @ 0.01863
[2016-04-10 15:02:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 360 @ 0.01830
[2016-04-10 15:10:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.01897
[2016-04-10 15:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 404 @ 0.01905
[2016-04-10 15:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.01903
[2016-04-10 15:26:37] podizzle3k : settle price the same as fair price?
[2016-04-10 15:30:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2350 @ 0.01991
[2016-04-10 15:30:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 7559 @ 0.02079
[2016-04-10 15:30:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 25 @ 0.02009
[2016-04-10 15:33:48] BitMEX_Wally : podizzle3k: The fair price converges to the settle price so at the time of expiry they are the same
[2016-04-10 15:34:37] rentchev : @BitMEX_Wally how is spot calculated on ETh?
[2016-04-10 15:34:54] podizzle3k : im just a bit confused because there is only settle and mark on ETH and on btc its settle and fair
[2016-04-10 15:35:01] BitMEX_Wally : rentchev: The last traded price from ETHXBT on Poloniex
[2016-04-10 15:35:16] rentchev : POlo seems to be down at the moment
[2016-04-10 15:35:30] podizzle3k : so the fair price for eth is last traded on polo
[2016-04-10 15:35:35] nip : anyone want to trade some factums?
[2016-04-10 15:35:35] BitMEX_Wally : Correct
[2016-04-10 15:35:38] rentchev : got it
[2016-04-10 15:35:41] rentchev : thanks
[2016-04-10 15:35:42] podizzle3k : cool thx :)
[2016-04-10 15:36:01] rentchev : that was nice pop, took out my sell order :-)
[2016-04-10 15:36:28] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: are you going to clarify soon how the insurance fund separation for btc / eth etc... works ?
[2016-04-10 15:37:05] nip : sleger: no rush i may need it for my factums
[2016-04-10 15:37:19] nip : the way things are looking now...
[2016-04-10 15:38:17] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: ETH is contributing more than XBT. We manually control the allocation of the fund at the moment, and we are keeping them separate
[2016-04-10 15:38:19] podizzle3k : sleger if you cant figure it out just trade spot
[2016-04-10 15:38:22] podizzle3k : ;)
[2016-04-10 15:38:41] nip : podizzle3k: :) :)
[2016-04-10 15:38:56] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: if they are separate what do you need to control manually ?
[2016-04-10 15:39:36] BitMEX_Wally : They are separate intra-week then get pooled after settlement/rebalance
[2016-04-10 15:39:41] nip : sleger: trade spot :)
[2016-04-10 15:39:47] sleger : podizzle3k: stupid comment, I told you that because you were asking stupid questions that you could figure out by yourself. The insurance fund is not detailed
[2016-04-10 15:40:00] nip : use websockets
[2016-04-10 15:40:02] BitMEX_Wally : Watch this space, we will add more detail
[2016-04-10 15:40:10] sleger : ok thanks @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-04-10 15:56:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.01980
[2016-04-10 15:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 75 @ 0.02002
[2016-04-10 16:04:19] rentchev : ETH contracts (market makers) seem to be lagging the espot
[2016-04-10 16:04:45] rentchev : instead of premium the contracts are selling on discount
[2016-04-10 16:05:05] rentchev : is this normal?
[2016-04-10 16:05:14] sleger : yes
[2016-04-10 16:23:41] cengel : The left panel used to have Mark Price / Indicative Settlement Price displayed even with contracts of no position. Where did this information move?
[2016-04-10 16:23:58] BitMEX_Sam : cengel: It's in the middle of the orderbook if you're using the single-column layout
[2016-04-10 16:24:08] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise it's in the sidebar because there's no room for it in the dual layout
[2016-04-10 16:24:50] cengel : It used to be under Contract Details i thought. I dont see it anywhere on sidebar
[2016-04-10 16:25:04] BitMEX_Sam : It usually is, are you using the single or dual column orderbook?
[2016-04-10 16:25:10] BitMEX_Sam : As in, 5 rows or 10 rows
[2016-04-10 16:26:15] BitMEX_Sam : I'm beginning to think that there is enough confusion caused by this change that I should revert it
[2016-04-10 16:26:50] cengel : I resized the orderbook so it's 8 rows. I just have normal advanced view on
[2016-04-10 16:27:31] BitMEX_Sam : If you click the options (gear icon) on the orderbook, and switch it to single column, you should see the last price in the middle
[2016-04-10 16:27:43] BitMEX_Sam : If you switch it back to dual column, the prices should show up in the sidebar under contract details
[2016-04-10 16:28:02] cengel : Okay now it went back to normal after i switched single then back to dual
[2016-04-10 16:28:24] cengel : Thanks
[2016-04-10 16:31:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02010
[2016-04-10 16:32:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 101 @ 0.02043
[2016-04-10 17:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 60 @ 0.01956
[2016-04-10 19:04:12] MaseCase : is everything on mitmex futures?
[2016-04-10 19:16:28] BTCVIX : yes
[2016-04-10 19:16:36] BTCVIX : they don't do anything with spot
[2016-04-10 19:43:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.02017
[2016-04-10 20:19:37] sleger : no shitcoin fans talking today here :D ?
[2016-04-10 20:59:29] nip : sleger: the only shitcoin is ltc
[2016-04-10 21:15:37] sleger : i see many more on polo website though @nip
[2016-04-10 21:17:27] nip : sleger: yeah
[2016-04-10 21:17:39] nip : sleger: eth and fct are not shitcoins though
[2016-04-10 21:17:51] sleger : oh no ?
[2016-04-10 21:17:52] nip : sleger: madesafe and xmr are good too
[2016-04-10 21:18:16] sleger : nip: fyi its maidsafe not madesafe
[2016-04-10 21:18:45] habibi : actually madesafe is kinda good name
[2016-04-10 21:30:40] nip : sleger: looks like your right
[2016-04-10 21:30:45] nip : my name makes more sense though...
[2016-04-10 21:30:53] sleger : how surprising....
[2016-04-10 21:35:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02067
[2016-04-10 21:38:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 976 @ 0.02080
[2016-04-10 21:58:29] davidcor : BitMEX_Sam: clicking ETH Chart button "Open in a new window", opens a XBT chart, not ETH chart
[2016-04-10 22:33:17] GurungBoi : hmm i alawys thought u could use your
[2016-04-10 22:33:19] GurungBoi : withheld profit?
[2016-04-10 22:33:21] GurungBoi : the fook
[2016-04-10 22:38:05] GurungBoi : nvm dynamic profit shits i guess
[2016-04-10 23:06:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 51 @ 0.02077
[2016-04-10 23:06:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02078
[2016-04-10 23:08:49] rapidtrades : REKT: not yet u f*Ck...haven't filled my btc longs
[2016-04-10 23:10:44] micmix : rapidtrades: you have time
[2016-04-10 23:15:52] rapidtrades : micmix: alas that's the only thing i dont have my friend
[2016-04-10 23:18:30] micmix : then you're in trouble, time is the only thing you can't buy
[2016-04-10 23:20:27] rapidtrades : indeed
[2016-04-10 23:21:39] sleger : and love
[2016-04-10 23:21:42] sleger : (just kidding)
[2016-04-10 23:23:44] micmix : you just reminded me of this cheesy 80s movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092718/
[2016-04-10 23:26:14] rapidtrades : one thousan dollah
[2016-04-10 23:26:53] micmix : going to have dinner with the family, happy trading guys
[2016-04-10 23:27:15] rapidtrades : micmix: its not happy if u can't get filled...
[2016-04-10 23:28:51] rapidtrades : so earlier i was going on a 8 hr train ride...so i figure let's set some stops just in case...BOOM REKT
[2016-04-10 23:29:10] rapidtrades : apparently i misclicked and closed 5 btc
[2016-04-10 23:29:25] rapidtrades : at 415.....
[2016-04-10 23:29:47] rapidtrades : then i set a limit right...btc-e trade BELOW MY PRICE....but they cancel my limits
[2016-04-10 23:35:10] rapidtrades : so idk if its f*ck with me day today or what...
[2016-04-10 23:44:07] BitMEX_Sam : davidcor: Thanks, was just doing some chart work today, I'll make sure that fix gets in the update
[2016-04-11 00:17:20] rapidtrades : any positions on fellas?
[2016-04-11 00:18:04] nip : long factum, long eth, short btc
[2016-04-11 00:19:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : nip: I hope that was a joke
[2016-04-11 00:19:25] rapidtrades : nip: are u opposite me?
[2016-04-11 00:21:04] nip : not a joke but fortunately i can afford to hold the position
[2016-04-11 00:21:45] rapidtrades : i hate futures MM....u place any sizeable bid and they up the price $1....b1tch if 420 was too high for me, u can be sure 421 is
[2016-04-11 00:22:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Haha maybe it's trying to induce FOMO
[2016-04-11 00:23:19] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: ofc that's what they're trying to do..if u market buy then they'll dump on ur ass
[2016-04-11 00:23:40] rapidtrades : or is short they'll spike prices back pre-manipulation
[2016-04-11 00:24:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Yep. It's really interesting watch OKCoin vs Coinbase
[2016-04-11 00:24:40] rapidtrades : also....there are trades happening in the middle of the spread 95% of time...clearly manipulated
[2016-04-11 00:24:54] rapidtrades : if u place a bid/ask in the middle...u wont get filled
[2016-04-11 00:25:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: I think it will be better when this stability is over and profit margins aren't so narrow
[2016-04-11 00:26:19] rapidtrades : yeah def...it's much easier to get filled in a fast market...b1tch can't manipulate
[2016-04-11 00:26:57] nip : rapidtrades: never trade a sideways market
[2016-04-11 00:27:11] nip : unless selling options
[2016-04-11 00:27:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : nip: Over all good advice, but it's hard to resist the urge, especially when you think you know the next direction
[2016-04-11 00:28:17] nip : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: just trade alts never sidways
[2016-04-11 00:29:06] rapidtrades : nip: well lot of times the best risk/reward is during sideways markets
[2016-04-11 00:29:33] nip : rapidtrades: undefinitely true
[2016-04-11 00:30:18] uiop : the etherbanga cometh
[2016-04-11 00:30:20] rapidtrades : nip: that's not a real word...undefinitely
[2016-04-11 00:30:38] uiop : rapidtrades: is etherbanga a real word?
[2016-04-11 00:30:47] rapidtrades : nip: that's not a real word...undefinitely @uiop shut up jew
[2016-04-11 00:30:53] uiop : lmao
[2016-04-11 00:31:13] rapidtrades : wtf...messages merged
[2016-04-11 00:31:25] rapidtrades : jews did it imo
[2016-04-11 00:31:42] nip : sledger?
[2016-04-11 00:32:04] rapidtrades : nip: no he's a muslim
[2016-04-11 00:32:39] nip : i thought that was habibi
[2016-04-11 00:33:22] mpkomara : I came for the contango
[2016-04-11 00:33:27] mpkomara : but stayed for the bisfurcation
[2016-04-11 00:33:31] mpkomara : HONK HONK
[2016-04-11 00:33:53] rapidtrades : nip: no he's just an idiot
[2016-04-11 00:35:17] nip : i guess i dont know him as well as sledger
[2016-04-11 00:36:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : mpkomara: working on that vocabulary? HONK HONK
[2016-04-11 00:37:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : What is bifurcation?
[2016-04-11 00:37:43] rapidtrades : hehe
[2016-04-11 00:43:19] rapidtrades : not a small drop in usd/cnh past hour
[2016-04-11 00:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02060
[2016-04-11 00:49:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: interesting. so that's USD losing value compared to CNY?
[2016-04-11 00:50:26] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-04-11 00:52:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Do you trade forex too?
[2016-04-11 00:52:37] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yes
[2016-04-11 00:52:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Cool. I've thought about it, but bitcoin trading is more accessible it seems, and plenty of excitement for me
[2016-04-11 00:53:21] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: its def easier and more $$$
[2016-04-11 00:53:37] rapidtrades : back when i started there wasn't a bitcoin so :)
[2016-04-11 00:53:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Bitcoin is easier and more $$$ or forex?
[2016-04-11 00:54:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 515 @ 0.02001
[2016-04-11 00:54:27] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: bitcoin is more profitable i should say...this shit aint never easy :)
[2016-04-11 00:54:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha very true
[2016-04-11 00:55:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Seems like forex is more tied to news than random speculation too, yes?
[2016-04-11 00:56:05] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah random news def make it harder
[2016-04-11 00:57:06] rapidtrades : the whole market is more efficient...and its prolly ''getting worse'' for specualtors
[2016-04-11 01:03:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Makes sense
[2016-04-11 01:10:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin used induce panic. It wasn't very effective
[2016-04-11 01:11:31] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: u mean just now?
[2016-04-11 01:12:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Yea
[2016-04-11 01:12:23] rapidtrades : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah that filled my bids finally :)
[2016-04-11 01:12:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: Hoorah!
[2016-04-11 01:14:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm hoping they're not actually dumping now haha
[2016-04-11 01:15:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex and Coinbase don't seem to care at all
[2016-04-11 01:57:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Must resist urge to use more leverage...
[2016-04-11 04:56:19] wudaokor : sorry, dumb question, but how much is one contract on bitmex worth?
[2016-04-11 04:58:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For XBT futures, `futures price * .00001 XBT`
[2016-04-11 04:59:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For XBU futures, `100 USD`
[2016-04-11 04:59:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For ETH futures, `1 ETH`
[2016-04-11 04:59:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : For FCT futures, `1 FCT`
[2016-04-11 05:00:18] BitMEX_Arthur : Also you can see the calculated `Order Value` below the order input section
[2016-04-11 05:00:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not sure how it works for A50, but if you go to Help at the top, then Contract Specifications you can see
[2016-04-11 05:00:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Arthur: Also a good place to look, thanks
[2016-04-11 08:05:52] giviz : hi
[2016-04-11 08:08:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : giviz: hello
[2016-04-11 08:43:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 21 @ 419.14
[2016-04-11 08:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1019 @ 419.31
[2016-04-11 08:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 51 @ 419.24
[2016-04-11 08:44:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 562 @ 418.93
[2016-04-11 09:19:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 35 @ 0.01976
[2016-04-11 10:47:26] habibi : new mm on eth? or just old one decreased qty size?
[2016-04-11 11:34:58] rapidtrades : habibi: idk spreads seem a bit tighter so new?
[2016-04-11 11:35:34] habibi : just curious coz looks like it acts a little diffrent in case of price spikes
[2016-04-11 11:36:11] rapidtrades : no clue...haven't traded until few days ago
[2016-04-11 11:51:10] rapidtrades : habibi: still short?
[2016-04-11 11:57:03] habibi : out of position right now, but yea expect more drama or at least double bottom , i dont find yday bottom same as previous ones
[2016-04-11 12:00:26] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-04-11 12:45:07] rapidtrades : i cant' trade on btc-e mt4
[2016-04-11 12:47:19] rapidtrades : limits don't work, keep getting off quotes
[2016-04-11 12:47:50] rapidtrades : it's no the fast market either...been happening past 2 days
[2016-04-11 12:48:23] diggy : hi, are withdrawals still getting processed. I'm waiting
[2016-04-11 12:50:04] habibi : wait 10 minute more and ur money will arrive young padawan
[2016-04-11 12:51:49] diggy : aight
[2016-04-11 13:36:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 295 @ 0.02018
[2016-04-11 13:58:19] viptrader : ETH attempting to break
[2016-04-11 14:36:39] davidcor : break down :D
[2016-04-11 14:37:32] davidcor : REKT messages are sad.. but important to remind us how easy you can get REKT'd
[2016-04-11 15:12:37] viptrader : eth pump
[2016-04-11 15:12:58] nip : yeah
[2016-04-11 15:14:13] sleger : oh yeah it went up 0.001 crazy !
[2016-04-11 15:21:16] nip : sleger: what do you think out the tech behind eth?
[2016-04-11 15:21:57] sleger : that people will add it to the real blockchain and it wont be worth much after that
[2016-04-11 15:22:20] sleger : just like the "pump" you just talked about
[2016-04-11 15:22:32] nip : the chinese mining overlords wont allow that
[2016-04-11 15:22:57] rapidtrades : any clues why btc-e mt4 turned to shit
[2016-04-11 15:23:35] sleger : maybe they stopped supporting win 3.1 ?
[2016-04-11 15:23:39] rapidtrades : ater all the problems laely, pretty sure it was their fault that my long got closed at 415
[2016-04-11 15:24:09] rapidtrades : that accidental close never happened to me on mt4....have used that shit for ages
[2016-04-11 15:24:24] rapidtrades : can't remember last time it happened....
[2016-04-11 15:25:30] rapidtrades : on a new platform/UI like here i've made mistakes but mt4...i honestly can't remember when it happened last
[2016-04-11 15:26:14] nip : rapidtrades: ouch a costly mistake. we know who to blame
[2016-04-11 15:26:35] rapidtrades : btc-e
[2016-04-11 15:27:05] rapidtrades : try it now...it constantly gives ''off quotes'' all day....u can only set limits...and even when u do they don't honor them
[2016-04-11 15:27:15] rapidtrades : its preposterous
[2016-04-11 15:27:48] rapidtrades : off quotes on a fomo market buy as well...like wtf...all the time
[2016-04-11 15:35:56] rapidtrades : also their demo server looks to be completely down as well....its turning into shit atm
[2016-04-11 15:39:14] rapidtrades : they should shut down live as well until they figure out the problems...this shit is costing money
[2016-04-11 16:16:46] nip : rapidtrades: and making money for you know who
[2016-04-11 16:17:50] j8 : voldemort?
[2016-04-11 16:31:37] rapidtrades : nip: yeah..this is sowly getting unbearable...with prices there inline with the market a lot lately, makes little sense to have an account
[2016-04-11 16:32:26] rapidtrades : not he first time to have problems either...they've had smaller 1 day outtages past few months
[2016-04-11 16:41:43] nip : factum isnt bouncing back as fast as id like
[2016-04-11 16:42:14] nip : hopefully we get those 14d contracts before expiry so i can buy myself more time
[2016-04-11 16:42:40] nip : or the daily rebalancing ones. whatever is on test net
[2016-04-11 19:53:57] viptrader : looks like time to short ETH
[2016-04-11 20:10:48] arbitrage001 : viptrader: after eth has gone down so much?
[2016-04-11 20:11:33] viptrader : Should keep moving down to 0.012
[2016-04-11 20:21:28] Rasign : viptrader: yes but not today :D
[2016-04-11 20:21:51] viptrader : Rasign: 2-3 DAYS
[2016-04-11 20:22:19] Rasign : viptrader: yep
[2016-04-11 20:22:26] Rasign : but before he will go up
[2016-04-11 20:22:47] Rasign : its my wish ^^
[2016-04-11 20:22:51] viptrader : Rasign: dont think it will go up than that
[2016-04-11 20:23:12] viptrader : 2079 MAX
[2016-04-11 20:23:21] viptrader : then down to 0.017 again today
[2016-04-11 20:24:17] Rasign : futur will say it :D
[2016-04-11 20:25:14] habibi : today? in what timezone?
[2016-04-11 20:26:48] viptrader : habibi: fck u
[2016-04-11 20:27:04] viptrader : keep bagholding
[2016-04-11 20:28:14] habibi : if someone ask u about timezone that does not need to indicate bagholding, what culture u are from? ur reasoning about that is very interesing
[2016-04-11 20:34:28] nip : eth replacing btc
[2016-04-11 20:34:31] nip : eventually
[2016-04-11 20:34:47] nip : though i respect your decision if you want to risk your own money with a short term short
[2016-04-11 20:35:44] habibi : btc replacing eth
[2016-04-11 20:36:13] habibi : though i respect ur dreams
[2016-04-11 20:45:34] nip : nothing special about btc
[2016-04-11 20:46:16] mxpartyhard : ETH rocks~!
[2016-04-11 20:49:27] Rasign : mxpartyhard: he is at this best
[2016-04-11 20:52:47] habibi : nip: show me actual use of eth
[2016-04-11 20:53:16] nip : slockit
[2016-04-11 20:53:23] nip : arcade city
[2016-04-11 20:53:30] nip : automated gambling
[2016-04-11 20:53:56] habibi : use, no just concept. yea only can agree with gambling but so far its not working as well. actual use means people using it :)
[2016-04-11 20:54:28] Rasign : do @habibi do you know lot of people we use really btc?
[2016-04-11 20:54:29] nip : show me actual use of btc
[2016-04-11 20:54:32] Rasign : like all day ?
[2016-04-11 20:54:47] nip : everything btc can do eth can do
[2016-04-11 20:54:49] Rasign : nip: same question ^^
[2016-04-11 20:54:52] nip : opposite isnt true
[2016-04-11 20:55:38] Rasign : nip: bitcoin is more advance in the fiel of "using", you have lot of shit to paid with it
[2016-04-11 20:55:41] rapidtrades : settle down eth fegs
[2016-04-11 20:56:12] Rasign : field
[2016-04-11 20:59:07] habibi : nip: thanks for admitting that eth has no actual use :)
[2016-04-11 20:59:36] habibi : btc? wide payment channel, enought for me to be better than eth :D
[2016-04-11 21:05:16] sleger : arcade city is pretty cool, wasnt aware of it
[2016-04-11 21:08:19] rapidtrades : sleger: sleger is here after slaving away at his J.O.B.
[2016-04-11 21:09:07] sleger : i've been home for few hours already
[2016-04-11 21:42:24] Samirum : Hello, guys
[2016-04-11 21:59:31] Rasign : eth buyers coming back
[2016-04-11 22:19:40] rentchev : I don't see much buyers or volume
[2016-04-11 22:20:01] rentchev : when volume picks up we will see if there are more buyers or sellers
[2016-04-11 22:37:10] sleger : so why is there still a discount ?
[2016-04-11 22:40:32] nip : rentchev: definitely more buyers
[2016-04-11 22:41:21] 1QaZxSw2 : What are you fine folks trading
[2016-04-11 22:41:35] nip : factums
[2016-04-11 22:41:43] habibi : biscuits
[2016-04-11 22:42:22] 1QaZxSw2 : i cant seem to find the biscuit contract
[2016-04-11 22:42:47] habibi : would be awsome to trade futures on biscuits, right?
[2016-04-11 22:43:04] 1QaZxSw2 : i would make a fortune selling to fat bastards
[2016-04-11 22:43:35] habibi : thats old tactic, my tactic is to sell it to thin ones so they will get fat
[2016-04-11 22:44:11] habibi : its same as dealer job
[2016-04-11 22:44:48] sleger : so why is there a large discount ?
[2016-04-11 22:45:23] sleger : sorry looks like the chat froze
[2016-04-11 22:45:46] nip : habibi: fat ones would never be interested in "future" biscuits
[2016-04-11 22:47:18] sleger : nip: thats the smartest thing you ever said congrats :)
[2016-04-11 22:47:55] habibi : they are intrested, as their demand is increasing as they gettign fatter, so they wanna long it like a hawk. Like a hawk
[2016-04-11 22:51:22] nip : sleger: heres another smart answer to your question
[2016-04-11 22:51:33] sleger : about the discount ?
[2016-04-11 22:51:37] nip : sleger: people overpay for leveraged long btc positions
[2016-04-11 22:51:41] nip : its nothing new
[2016-04-11 22:51:51] sleger : well so im expecting a premium for eth
[2016-04-11 22:51:59] sleger : people overpay even more for eth dude
[2016-04-11 22:52:06] habibi : sleger u started playing on eth?
[2016-04-11 22:52:11] sleger : where is the smart part of the answer
[2016-04-11 22:52:25] rentchev : anyone from BitMEX here?
[2016-04-11 22:52:29] sleger : habibi: i "gamble" it
[2016-04-11 22:52:31] nip : why overpay for eth when theres a firesale at polonium
[2016-04-11 22:53:00] sleger : nip: leverage ?
[2016-04-11 22:53:08] nip : sleger: :) i appreciate the consistent witty jokes
[2016-04-11 22:53:21] nip : polonium has cheaper leverage
[2016-04-11 22:53:28] sleger : huh really ?
[2016-04-11 22:53:30] nip : not as much that is true
[2016-04-11 22:53:35] 1QaZxSw2 : how do you measure cheap
[2016-04-11 22:53:40] sleger : dont remember the 1 or 2% daily rates ?
[2016-04-11 22:54:01] sleger : i made a fortune lending to these shitcoin heads and shorting it at the same time
[2016-04-11 22:54:06] nip : its 0.01% daily now
[2016-04-11 22:54:22] nip : sleger: thats a good idea
[2016-04-11 22:54:27] 1QaZxSw2 : actually i heard polnix is changing its name
[2016-04-11 22:54:35] sleger : since 24 h ago i have a tiny long eth because so many idiots are going to buy at these "discounted prices"
[2016-04-11 22:54:37] 1QaZxSw2 : its going to be called shitcoinistan
[2016-04-11 22:54:51] nip : notactuallypolishex
[2016-04-11 22:55:03] nip : its about as confusing a name as maidsafe
[2016-04-11 22:55:09] sleger : 1QaZxSw2: if that's your login i cant imagine your password or maybe you got things confused and your login is "alfred" ?
[2016-04-11 22:55:11] habibi : fair point sleger
[2016-04-11 22:55:40] 1QaZxSw2 : alfred as in Alfred E Neuman?
[2016-04-11 22:55:51] BitMEX_Sam : rentchev: Hi, I'm here
[2016-04-11 22:56:14] rentchev : hey Sam, is there plan to add more monthly contracts?
[2016-04-11 22:56:20] rentchev : so we can trade spreads
[2016-04-11 22:56:31] nip : sleger: was there really a 1% btc lending rate? how long did that last?
[2016-04-11 22:56:33] rentchev : need like May and July and August
[2016-04-11 22:56:50] sleger : nip: 1 to 2% for 1-2 days but around 0.3% for over a week
[2016-04-11 22:56:52] rentchev : trading volume will increase
[2016-04-11 22:57:02] sleger : I lent over 100 btc made some and withdrew it all
[2016-04-11 22:57:34] 1QaZxSw2 : hey my chart is not rendering, is it working for you guys?
[2016-04-11 22:57:41] nip : i will have to monitor the lending rates in the future
[2016-04-11 23:00:18] rentchev : BitMEX_Sam?
[2016-04-11 23:00:27] rentchev : I need to go and don't want to miss your answer
[2016-04-11 23:03:13] sleger : rentchev: spreads on what ? btc
[2016-04-11 23:03:20] rentchev : yes
[2016-04-11 23:03:32] sleger : that wouldnt work it would just split up the volume and nobody will trade it besides on market maker or two
[2016-04-11 23:03:32] rentchev : calendar spreads on the contracts
[2016-04-11 23:03:48] sleger : doesnt work, just look at jun/sept volume and order book
[2016-04-11 23:03:56] rentchev : I did
[2016-04-11 23:03:57] sleger : it's not CME yet
[2016-04-11 23:04:03] rentchev : :-)
[2016-04-11 23:04:05] rentchev : true
[2016-04-11 23:04:14] rentchev : we need more people to trade in here
[2016-04-11 23:04:34] rentchev : I better get on with marketing my affiliate link
[2016-04-11 23:04:49] sleger : you'd make more money that way
[2016-04-11 23:04:49] 1QaZxSw2 : how can i get an affiliate link
[2016-04-11 23:05:10] rentchev : go to our account page
[2016-04-11 23:05:10] rentchev : your
[2016-04-11 23:05:14] sleger : 1QaZxSw2: you have to have a simple username
[2016-04-11 23:05:20] sleger : doesnt work for random shit
[2016-04-11 23:05:34] rentchev : lol
[2016-04-11 23:05:36] BitMEX_Sam : rentchev: We have plans for new contracts, yes, we'll keep everyone updated
[2016-04-11 23:05:37] sleger : sorry
[2016-04-11 23:05:50] rentchev : thanks BitMEX_Sam
[2016-04-11 23:05:53] BitMEX_Sam : Our priority is increasing liquidity, though -
[2016-04-11 23:05:58] rentchev : see ya later sleger
[2016-04-11 23:06:01] BitMEX_Sam : And in the future that may mean fewer contracts, not more.
[2016-04-11 23:06:12] sleger : of course that makes more sense
[2016-04-11 23:06:21] sleger : factom was the stupidest idea
[2016-04-11 23:06:36] BitMEX_Sam : They cost nothing to implement - not everything's a winner like ETH
[2016-04-11 23:06:41] sleger : china was a nice try / good idea but didnt work
[2016-04-11 23:06:43] rentchev : anyone trade FCT or A50?
[2016-04-11 23:06:58] sleger : just look at volumes
[2016-04-11 23:07:01] rentchev : I only trade XBT and ETH
[2016-04-11 23:07:05] sleger : xbu is poorly implemented
[2016-04-11 23:07:37] rentchev : k, I am out for now
[2016-04-11 23:07:39] sleger : xbt series has a problem with settlement fees but that impacts mostly short term contracts
[2016-04-11 23:07:57] 1QaZxSw2 : what exactly is the difference between xbt and xbu? apologies, im new here
[2016-04-11 23:08:12] sleger : 1QaZxSw2: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-04-11 23:08:20] sleger : 1QaZxSw2: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU
[2016-04-11 23:08:21] 1QaZxSw2 : thanks
[2016-04-11 23:19:09] 1QaZxSw2 : so we need to pay to settle our contracts? Is that only an issue if we hold till expiry?
[2016-04-11 23:26:47] sleger : its half of an issue
[2016-04-11 23:26:59] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-04-11 23:34:19] nip : rentchev: i trade fct and a50
[2016-04-11 23:34:41] nip : but i think ive always been about 100% of the open interest...
[2016-04-11 23:35:50] nip : the settlement fee deters me from trading in the non monthly/quarterly contracts
[2016-04-11 23:36:09] nip : i basically have to assume i will pay 3 times the fees
[2016-04-11 23:36:24] sleger : nip: 2x get your maths right
[2016-04-11 23:36:50] nip : sleger: im comparing to exchanges with no settlement fee
[2016-04-11 23:36:52] 1QaZxSw2 : so settlement fees cannot be determined when you place the entry order?
[2016-04-11 23:36:59] nip : i dont think even having a settlement fee is very usual
[2016-04-11 23:37:14] 1QaZxSw2 : yea, settlement is the job of the exchange
[2016-04-11 23:37:30] nip : which is why real life options and futures contracts dont have such fees
[2016-04-11 23:37:32] nip : hence 3x
[2016-04-11 23:37:59] sleger : if you close your position you still have to pay on 0kcoin and such
[2016-04-11 23:38:09] sleger : but i hear your point about 3x
[2016-04-11 23:38:41] nip : i could try to estimate probability of me closing my position before settlement i guess
[2016-04-11 23:39:03] sleger : my point was that closing positions efficiently before settlement would bring bitmex 2x less than settlement fees
[2016-04-11 23:39:21] sleger : which is why I claim that settlement fees are abusive
[2016-04-11 23:39:48] sleger : and I wont carry large positions on short dated contracts anymore, unless i have a huge reason to do so
[2016-04-11 23:39:51] nip : yeah they are. on the other hand they lose volume (at least from me) due to those fees
[2016-04-11 23:40:20] sleger : arthur said it was a "moot point" when I chatted with him about it
[2016-04-11 23:40:37] BitMEX_Sam : We have some changes in the works
[2016-04-11 23:40:45] sleger : they are long overdue
[2016-04-11 23:40:50] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-04-11 23:41:17] sleger : thats your typical answer to BTCVIX so not sure i should take it well :p
[2016-04-11 23:41:25] BitMEX_Sam : Hah, different situation.
[2016-04-11 23:44:32] sleger : glad someone realized that 1+1 !=4. I know it can get confusing with rapid claiming 11==14 though
[2016-04-11 23:44:36] nip : next month and the quarter after that as the only 2 contracts for each symbol. daily rebalance/dpe. no settlement fee
[2016-04-11 23:44:45] nip : i hope :)
[2016-04-11 23:45:36] nip : i guess you would need next 2 months. no need for quarterly
[2016-04-11 23:45:40] nip : for rolling purposes
[2016-04-12 00:02:46] rentchev : to have May and June will be nice
[2016-04-12 00:03:00] rentchev : September is to far and premium is huge
[2016-04-12 00:03:22] sleger : rentchev: june is there already ........
[2016-04-12 00:03:49] rentchev : I know, but if May was there I can trade both better
[2016-04-12 00:03:56] 1QaZxSw2 : honestly, looks like ETH is where all the vol is