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[2016-03-30 02:23:17] BitMEX_Arthur : but if you want larger than 50 contract prices put your interest on the chat and we will help get you a quote
[2016-03-30 03:08:01] mpkomara : thanks :) will keep in mind
[2016-03-30 05:45:13] doon : Do you guys have any documentation from a web developer's perspective? Impressive app.
[2016-03-30 05:46:20] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2016-03-30 05:46:30] BitMEX_Arthur : This describes our API if you would like to connect to BitMEX
[2016-03-30 06:36:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 412.43
[2016-03-30 06:36:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.02845
[2016-03-30 06:37:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 40 @ 411.31
[2016-03-30 07:01:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5000 @ 410.84
[2016-03-30 07:01:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 410.79 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-30 07:03:58] ayy_lmao : rekt
[2016-03-30 07:07:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2883 @ 409.43
[2016-03-30 07:34:03] BitMEX_Wally : `A50J16` expires next month: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/A50J16
[2016-03-30 08:02:52] jung1 : morning
[2016-03-30 08:02:56] jung1 : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-undervalued-200-needham-report/
[2016-03-30 08:06:01] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4caeh3/bitcoin_futures_exchange_bitmex_makes_false/
[2016-03-30 08:10:51] tscha : lulz
[2016-03-30 08:13:18] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4caay2/bitmexs_hookers_blow_insurance_fund/
[2016-03-30 09:13:49] zanza : ban jung1
[2016-03-30 09:18:35] jung1 : deny
[2016-03-30 10:49:33] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#how-do-i-know-bitmex-hasnt-lost-my-bitcoin Were there any done already?
[2016-03-30 11:05:12] rapidtrades : good morning
[2016-03-30 11:56:39] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: We have internal audits that run every second that ensure the blockchain matches our internal database
[2016-03-30 11:57:40] BitMEX_Wally : However due to the fact we use multisig for all deposits we cannot use the traditional proof-of-solvency merkel trees
[2016-03-30 12:05:10] vbmithr : "waving their hands around like some desperate fat chick"
[2016-03-30 12:05:28] vbmithr : good read :D
[2016-03-30 12:07:35] vbmithr : interesting guy
[2016-03-30 12:07:48] vbmithr : He sure put a lot of efforts into writing this posts and doing those animations.
[2016-03-30 12:09:17] vbmithr : bitcoiners are a bunch of children
[2016-03-30 12:09:24] vbmithr : guess many people in markets are :)
[2016-03-30 12:31:51] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i placed some orders by api using simpleOrderQty, and it seems the quantities are not quite right. for XBT series it should be `quantity = simpleOrderQty / (multiplier * price)`, yes?
[2016-03-30 12:35:39] BitMEX_Wally : If you do not have a position, yes
[2016-03-30 12:36:08] j8 : dang i was hoping that wasn't the case. why is that
[2016-03-30 12:36:34] BitMEX_Wally : Look at `simpleQty` on the position
[2016-03-30 12:37:07] BitMEX_Wally : If you go long 1 XBT then the `simpleQty` will be `1 XBT`
[2016-03-30 12:37:26] BitMEX_Wally : If the price rises 10% then although the homeNotional will be `1.1 XBT` the `simpleQty` will still be `1 XBT`
[2016-03-30 12:37:56] BitMEX_Wally : You can then submit an order to sell with a `simpleOrderQty` of `1` to close the position (rather than `1.1` which would make no sense)
[2016-03-30 12:38:39] BitMEX_Wally : So basically converting a `simpleOrderQty` to a number of contracts, when reducing a position, depends on the avgEntryPrice of the position
[2016-03-30 12:40:40] j8 : ok, that should maybe be called `complicatedOrderQty`, lol
[2016-03-30 12:41:42] j8 : i actually want to place orders for a certain notional value so i guess i should just calculate it myself.
[2016-03-30 12:41:58] BitMEX_Wally : Yes if that's what you want
[2016-03-30 12:42:23] BitMEX_Wally : `simpleOrderQty` is meant to be simpler for the user. i.e. I went long 1 XBT and now I sell 1 XBT, I should have no position
[2016-03-30 12:43:05] BitMEX_Wally : Maybe we could support orders that specify a homeNotional too
[2016-03-30 12:43:14] BitMEX_Wally : and/or a margin value
[2016-03-30 12:43:23] BitMEX_Wally : and/or a cash (i.e. USD) amount
[2016-03-30 12:49:50] j8 : i guess you guys are working on a XBT-based UI and it will all make sense. for now, these orders don't have a Qty or a Gross Value in the orders table in the UI
[2016-03-30 12:50:28] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Correct :)
[2016-03-30 12:50:52] BitMEX_Wally : `simpleOrderQty` is actually in units of the `homeCurrency` i.e. `ETH` or `XLT`
[2016-03-30 12:59:22] j8 : right
[2016-03-30 13:01:12] j8 : for `ETH7D` it's the same as quantity then?
[2016-03-30 13:04:16] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-03-30 13:41:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 411.53
[2016-03-30 13:42:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 7000 @ 411.09
[2016-03-30 13:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 8 @ 409.98
[2016-03-30 13:46:11] jung1 : wtf
[2016-03-30 13:46:13] jung1 : https://sale.digix.io/dashboard/stats
[2016-03-30 13:46:28] jung1 : $6,795,237.45 after 12h
[2016-03-30 13:48:48] jung1 : welcome in new dotcoin bubble
[2016-03-30 13:48:54] jung1 : dotcom
[2016-03-30 13:49:08] sleger : shitcoins
[2016-03-30 13:49:41] jung1 : these shitcoins will eat bitcoin marketcap soon
[2016-03-30 13:49:42] habibi : jung1: proof of funds? i think they taking funds it on their own without any 3rd party ?
[2016-03-30 13:49:53] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-30 13:49:58] jung1 : no 3rd party
[2016-03-30 13:50:02] jung1 : only $ and eth
[2016-03-30 13:50:25] habibi : so they can easily fake vol\
[2016-03-30 13:50:25] jung1 : they will pump eth
[2016-03-30 13:50:54] jung1 : and collect over 10mln $ easy
[2016-03-30 13:52:06] sleger : and then crash like all other shitcoins
[2016-03-30 14:11:20] laisee : suckerz born every minute, seems like
[2016-03-30 14:15:33] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: censoring people because they post things you dont like is shady
[2016-03-30 14:16:29] sleger : you should have replied that you are working on making things more transparent and item1will be available around date1, item2 around date2 etc...
[2016-03-30 14:22:13] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: I don't think it is censorship to remove outright libel from the trollbox.
[2016-03-30 14:22:34] BitMEX_Wally : But yes, it would be nice to have a sensible discussion about transparency and the roadmap
[2016-03-30 14:23:17] BitMEX_Wally : Right now I am working on improvements to the margining system to support default swaps
[2016-03-30 14:23:21] sleger : yes you have the right to remove it but you need to consider that people read it and it is in your interest to provide answers to this
[2016-03-30 14:23:48] sleger : just like I think Arthur should explain himself about what the community got to read, even though he did not mean for it to be public.
[2016-03-30 14:24:35] BitMEX_Wally : Do you think posting a picture of Arthur's head on a fish is childish?
[2016-03-30 14:24:58] BitMEX_Wally : Never mind the racist tweets with African villagers
[2016-03-30 14:25:57] sleger : yes I think it is childish indeed.
[2016-03-30 14:26:55] BitMEX_Sam : As all of you who are here regularly know, that liquidation data is available via the websocket API
[2016-03-30 14:27:06] BitMEX_Sam : So if the question is whether or not we're hiding something, the answer is clearly "no"
[2016-03-30 14:27:25] sleger : I know you're not but there is public image, what people imagine etc...
[2016-03-30 14:27:27] BitMEX_Sam : If the real question is, "why can't you make it easier for us to see this via the UI", there are a thousand nicer ways to ask without accusing us of outright theft
[2016-03-30 14:27:45] BitMEX_Wally : Or suggesting we take drugs or use prostitutes
[2016-03-30 14:28:06] BitMEX_Sam : I like to think our users are smart enough to think for themselves, and the response to this (read: next to nothing) suggests they see through it
[2016-03-30 14:28:39] sleger : I think you are assuming too much about the average user
[2016-03-30 14:29:34] BitMEX_Wally : People have been asking for better trade history that goes them where they got in and out of each position
[2016-03-30 14:29:50] BitMEX_Wally : I was planning on implementing this and then just making it public for the system bankruptcy accounts
[2016-03-30 14:30:59] sleger : I'm sure you will address those concerns, I'm just pointing out that it would be in your interest to answer the funds question in your newsletter or something like that, just in a general manner not directly the way they were asked
[2016-03-30 14:31:05] BitMEX_Wally : Right now the trade history just shows trades but would be great to add avgEntryPrice, realisedPnl, unrealisedPnl
[2016-03-30 14:31:26] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Good idea
[2016-03-30 14:32:14] BitMEX_Wally : Arthur and I are thinking of making a trip to London in April or May
[2016-03-30 14:32:29] BitMEX_Wally : Would be good to meet up if you're in the UK
[2016-03-30 14:33:00] sleger : Let me know when you know the dates.
[2016-03-30 14:33:31] BitMEX_Wally : Cool
[2016-03-30 14:33:43] BitMEX_Wally : You're based in Paris?
[2016-03-30 14:34:11] sleger : a little bit everywhere :)
[2016-03-30 16:25:31] nip : my input on the insurance fund controversy
[2016-03-30 16:25:53] nip : i understand how its being used from watching the liquidation orders
[2016-03-30 16:26:11] nip : i agree it would be more transparent for normal users if there was a page with the liquidation history
[2016-03-30 16:26:49] BitMEX_Sam : I agree that the information could be more obvious, but the point is that we provide enough information for interested parties to know how the fund is being handled, if they care to look
[2016-03-30 16:27:06] nip : the conclusion of my observation is that nothing shady is going on
[2016-03-30 16:27:23] BitMEX_Sam : Before a few days ago we never had a request for a UI page with data from anyone - I simply have other tasks that are higher priority
[2016-03-30 16:27:28] nip : i think most users would not know how to look
[2016-03-30 16:27:48] nip : on the other hand you will have some of us saying everything looks ok, and noone will say they see evidence of wrongdoing
[2016-03-30 16:27:55] nip : so you're probably in the lcear
[2016-03-30 16:28:34] BitMEX_Sam : In general we have chosen not to engage on Reddit because it was clear discussion had become emotional
[2016-03-30 16:29:03] nip : i think that is the correct decision
[2016-03-30 16:29:59] nip : on the other hand i think censoring chat because its libel is shady when you are both the target of the criticism and the one making the censorship determination
[2016-03-30 16:30:10] nip : that is of course your call though
[2016-03-30 16:30:29] BitMEX_Sam : He had posted that link many times, we chose to remove it like we would remove any spam link
[2016-03-30 16:31:00] nip : that seems fine
[2016-03-30 16:59:07] mark : test
[2016-03-30 16:59:20] mark : BitMEX_Sam: let's meetup when you're in the UK
[2016-03-30 17:19:15] tscha : btcvix is annoying and his reddit posts are super childish... just my 2 satoshis
[2016-03-30 17:19:44] tscha : however, fits perfeclty into the bitcoin community
[2016-03-30 17:19:54] tscha : perfectly*
[2016-03-30 17:39:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 240 @ 0.02913
[2016-03-30 22:38:13] BTCVIX : tscha: I am just following what King Arthur thinks of us -- we are all children after all in his eyes
[2016-03-30 22:43:16] zanza : lol btcvix
[2016-03-30 22:45:45] zanza : #VΛPΣПΛTIӨП
[2016-03-30 23:08:32] dmbtmxdm : @Bitmex, fyi, I looked over the information before signing up and found it satisfactory. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
[2016-03-30 23:22:37] rentchev : hey guys what is the Market Price field on the positions tab?
[2016-03-30 23:22:52] rentchev : It changes, but there are no trades
[2016-03-30 23:33:19] BitMEX_Arthur : rentchev: It is used to determine your unrealised pnl and whether your position will be liquiadted
[2016-03-30 23:33:43] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-03-30 23:33:50] BitMEX_Arthur : Read the section Fair Price Marking
[2016-03-30 23:34:12] rentchev : but it's not the same as the XBT spot which is displayed above
[2016-03-30 23:34:20] rentchev : will do
[2016-03-30 23:34:21] rentchev : thanks
[2016-03-30 23:35:18] BitMEX_Arthur : rentchev: Futures only equal the underlying spot price when they settle
[2016-03-30 23:35:29] BitMEX_Arthur : All other times their price deviates that document explains how we mark your positions
[2016-03-30 23:35:42] rentchev : cool
[2016-03-30 23:35:46] BitMEX_Arthur : :smile:
[2016-03-31 00:37:06] dmbtmxdm : One thing I would really love to see is lower spreads.
[2016-03-31 00:47:46] dmbtmxdm : Anyone here right now?
[2016-03-31 00:49:29] rentchev : lower spreads will happen when a lot more people start trading on BitMex
[2016-03-31 00:51:27] dmbtmxdm : if I am shorting, I am selling to the bid price, and buying after at the ask price.
[2016-03-31 00:51:38] dmbtmxdm : Do you know how comission is calculated?
[2016-03-31 01:00:22] BitMEX_Arthur : dmbtmxdm: It is the Fee % * Bitcoin Value of your order
[2016-03-31 01:01:00] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-03-31 01:15:58] BombaUcigasa : Fee % * leverage ;)
[2016-03-31 03:05:16] justin.neo : What does Volume (False) on the BitMEX data chart represent?
[2016-03-31 03:28:53] BitMEX_Wally : Volume refers to the Red/Green bars at the bottom of the chart
[2016-03-31 03:29:14] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure what False means, I think it might be something to do with it being a volume bar chart, rather than a price candle chart
[2016-03-31 06:44:28] splash : BitMEX_Wally: maybe you should add a take screenshot and send to bitmex button to the site.
[2016-03-31 06:44:53] splash : easier to debug for u
[2016-03-31 06:45:30] splash : a screenshot along with redux history and u would be set :D
[2016-03-31 06:52:19] BitMEX_Wally : splash: Good idea, I don't know if browsers have APIs to take screenshots
[2016-03-31 06:52:51] splash : BitMEX_Wally: clone root HTML elm and create HTML blob
[2016-03-31 06:54:18] splash : never done it myself, but im 70% sure it will work
[2016-03-31 06:57:09] splash : i seriously doubt it will work on all browsers, but i guess it doesnt have to
[2016-03-31 06:57:55] splash : you could even make it silent, so that user doesnt have to "know" that youre snapping tyhe screenshot. its not as though we got something on our webpages that yuo dont already know about ;)
[2016-03-31 07:27:53] tscha : BTCVIX: I agree that bitcoiners are children
[2016-03-31 09:21:55] donchard : pls i cant take orders
[2016-03-31 10:07:30] justin.neo : Is there any way to find out the value of Volume (False) via your APIs? So for example, the Volume (False) for XBT48H 2016-03-30 Volume (False)?
[2016-03-31 10:56:49] BitMEX_Wally : justin.neo: Sure, you can query the `trade` API bucketed by day. https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed
[2016-03-31 10:57:06] BitMEX_Wally : So for your example: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade/bucketed?binSize=1d&symbol=XBT48H&columns=volume&count=5&start=0&reverse=true
[2016-03-31 10:57:50] BitMEX_Wally : ` { "symbol": "XBT48H", "timestamp": "2016-03-30T00:00:00.000Z", "volume": 100763 },`
[2016-03-31 10:58:03] BitMEX_Wally : Volume that day was `100763` contracts
[2016-03-31 10:59:27] BitMEX_Wally : ` "volume": 100763, "turnover": 41762334350, "homeNotional": 417.6233434999999, "foreignNotional": 173093.78551594107 `
[2016-03-31 11:00:09] BitMEX_Wally : `turnover` is in the settlement currency (i.e. Satoshis)
[2016-03-31 11:00:29] BitMEX_Wally : `homeNotional` is in `XBT` (for `XBT48H`)
[2016-03-31 11:00:40] BitMEX_Wally : `foreignNotional` is in `USD` (for `XBT48H`)
[2016-03-31 11:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02886
[2016-03-31 11:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 16 @ 0.02886
[2016-03-31 11:17:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 94 @ 0.00404
[2016-03-31 12:12:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: some idiot spamming orderbook with 5s
[2016-03-31 12:19:23] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: I will ask them to stop
[2016-03-31 12:20:28] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-03-31 12:24:28] j8 : today between 9:00 and 10:00 utc, XBX went down even though ALL its constituents went up
[2016-03-31 12:24:47] j8 : caught in the act of being a garbage index
[2016-03-31 12:24:52] BitMEX_Wally : j8: We are moving to a new index, will be announced soon
[2016-03-31 12:25:09] j8 : waiting patiently for that
[2016-03-31 12:25:16] rapidtrades : yesssssssssss
[2016-03-31 12:29:55] j8 : xbx is still better than winkdex somehow...
[2016-03-31 13:06:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 413.43
[2016-03-31 13:50:37] nip : @BitMEX sometimes the bitmex page starts lagging and memory leaks until the tab crashes at the 32-bit memory limit
[2016-03-31 13:50:47] nip : it can even happen when idle
[2016-03-31 13:51:37] nip : other times there is not an issue. im not sure what causes it. ive noticed it for about a week. no other website does this
[2016-03-31 13:54:43] BitMEX_Wally : nip: Thanks for letting us know. Our CTO BitMEX_Sam will be in touch to get some more information from you so we can fix
[2016-03-31 13:55:24] pboavista : yo
[2016-03-31 13:55:31] pboavista : what happened to ltc?
[2016-03-31 13:55:43] pboavista : delisted? I cant see the futures
[2016-03-31 13:56:08] sleger : there were more important shitcoins apparently
[2016-03-31 13:56:34] pboavista : so it's gone?
[2016-03-31 13:56:57] sleger : if I say that and you cant find it, whats your logical conclusion ?
[2016-03-31 13:56:58] pboavista : lol i dont get it, indices section speaks of XLT
[2016-03-31 13:57:11] pboavista : in the navbar
[2016-03-31 13:57:14] pboavista : thus why i ask
[2016-03-31 14:17:15] BitMEX_Wally : pboavista: Yes we delisted `XLT7D` because no-one was trading it
[2016-03-31 14:17:25] BitMEX_Wally : We have kept the indices around in case we decide to relaunch
[2016-03-31 14:29:29] gielbier : maybe when ltc become fun again?
[2016-03-31 14:50:00] BitMEX_Sam : Could happen, if it starts being traded regularly
[2016-03-31 14:58:57] BitMEX_Sam : nip: Re: memory, I'll keep an eye on it. I regularly profile the app to ensure we're not seeing memory leaks
[2016-03-31 14:59:21] BitMEX_Sam : Unfortunately I don't have total control over the chart, as that's provided by TradingView. You may be able to contain the memory usage by resizing the chart to its minimum size, which unloads it
[2016-03-31 15:41:33] BombaUcigasa : What about destroying the chart when the tab is inactive?
[2016-03-31 15:41:46] BombaUcigasa : It lags anyway and sometimes the bitmex markers don't load all the time
[2016-03-31 15:42:25] BombaUcigasa : Please do NOT add LTC well AFTER it starts to pump like mad, like you did with FCT
[2016-03-31 15:42:40] BitMEX_Sam : That's a nice thought re: the chart, but then it would have to reload once you came back
[2016-03-31 15:42:50] BitMEX_Sam : I may consider a long timeout, say, 10min of the chart being inactive -> unload
[2016-03-31 15:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : BombaUcigasa: We can add an altcoin in less than 24 hours. So give us heads up next time :)
[2016-03-31 15:46:17] sleger : by the way, why factom ? It is ~ the 10th market cap
[2016-03-31 15:49:24] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: It was the 3rd most traded at the time
[2016-03-31 15:51:21] sleger : yeah but 1-2 days ago was CLAM then often it's MAID etc... Depends on the pump of the day
[2016-03-31 15:51:46] sleger : Surprising that china a50 is not working better though, at least this one is more original.
[2016-03-31 15:56:33] BitMEX_Sam : Right, at the time FCT seemed more sustained
[2016-03-31 15:56:37] BitMEX_Sam : We'll see - we can add and remove alts very quickly
[2016-03-31 16:39:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1569 @ 0.02818
[2016-03-31 16:43:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1885 @ 0.02806
[2016-03-31 16:49:55] overed : How to close position here ?
[2016-03-31 16:50:41] overed : There is no Close button or smth ?
[2016-03-31 16:50:45] sleger : no
[2016-03-31 16:50:55] sleger : do reverse trade
[2016-03-31 16:51:56] overed : I see
[2016-03-31 16:51:59] overed : Tanks bud
[2016-03-31 17:06:05] XBT_IHCT : Hi everyone!
[2016-03-31 17:06:33] XBT_IHCT : where can I see the fee structure now?
[2016-03-31 17:06:46] BitMEX_Sam : XBT_IHCT: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-03-31 17:08:13] XBT_IHCT : ah okay
[2016-03-31 17:08:15] XBT_IHCT : does that include the discounts?
[2016-03-31 17:08:37] BitMEX_Sam : If you have a 10% referral discount, then it's 10% on top of that
[2016-03-31 17:08:51] BitMEX_Sam : e.g. the taker fee would go down from 0.075% to 0.0675%
[2016-03-31 17:11:46] XBT_IHCT : thanks.
[2016-03-31 17:13:58] XBT_IHCT : so would the maker fee go from -0.025% to -0.0225?
[2016-03-31 17:14:30] XBT_IHCT : -0.0225%
[2016-03-31 17:16:56] BitMEX_Wally : The settlement fee goes from 0.05% to 0.045%
[2016-03-31 17:17:41] BitMEX_Wally : Also, if you trade against hidden liquidity you get paid the maker rebate
[2016-03-31 17:21:38] XBT_IHCT : thanks.
[2016-03-31 17:23:24] XBT_IHCT : yeah I saw the way the fee works on iceberg orders, and it makes perfect sense
[2016-03-31 20:57:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 442 @ 0.02745
[2016-03-31 21:02:20] rapidtrades : evening
[2016-03-31 21:03:46] BitMEX_Sam : evening
[2016-03-31 21:03:50] mark : evening
[2016-03-31 21:04:07] mark : how's everyone doing this fine evening
[2016-03-31 21:04:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 370 @ 0.02725
[2016-03-31 21:05:04] rapidtrades : working like a Soviet POW
[2016-03-31 21:05:07] mark : the REKT bot answered my question
[2016-03-31 21:05:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 330 @ 0.02717
[2016-03-31 21:05:10] BitMEX_Sam : Doing well, day's been good
[2016-03-31 21:05:19] mark : @rapidtrades same here
[2016-03-31 21:05:38] mark : Yeah good day over here too
[2016-03-31 21:06:08] rapidtrades : doing everything reluctantly and very slowly
[2016-03-31 21:06:50] mark : I'm actually surprised that the segwit release/excitement isn't having more of an effect
[2016-03-31 21:07:08] mark : on the px
[2016-03-31 21:07:54] rapidtrades : what's a segwit
[2016-03-31 21:08:46] habibi : mark: its already on the network?
[2016-03-31 21:09:16] mark : Segregated witness. & no it's not yet on the network but moving forward in development and there was some noise
[2016-03-31 21:09:31] habibi : could u link us to that noise?
[2016-03-31 21:09:36] mark : more noise on the other improvements as well though, seems like the devs are moving forward pretty fast
[2016-03-31 21:10:16] mark : actually, I think I was confused with check sequence verify
[2016-03-31 21:10:41] mark : although I did hear something about segwit today as well, let me see if I can find it...
[2016-03-31 21:12:07] mark : there we go: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4cjxnh/segnet4_the_latest_segwit_test_network_is_live/
[2016-03-31 21:13:11] habibi : thanks
[2016-03-31 21:14:47] mark : np
[2016-03-31 21:17:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 321 @ 0.02699
[2016-03-31 21:29:39] mark : are there are MMs around if I wanted to buy like 25k contracts or 100k contracts?
[2016-03-31 21:29:55] mark : or is this not really the place for that kind of size
[2016-03-31 21:30:40] habibi : u can ask here, but u can just put order and u would get filled if u put counter to price movement
[2016-03-31 21:30:54] mark : fair point, cool
[2016-03-31 21:31:41] mark : although I suppose people buying 100k contracts might want to buy in the direction of the price movement as well
[2016-03-31 21:32:07] mark : *buying or selling
[2016-03-31 21:32:12] habibi : so if u wanna fomo jump in u need to give good price for others to fill u
[2016-03-31 21:32:23] mark : haha cool
[2016-03-31 21:32:24] BitMEX_Sam : Generally I'd recommend just putting the order in and seeing how it goes - often when the MMs are online they'll grab it if they have the delta to spare
[2016-03-31 21:32:36] mark : BitMEX_Sam: thanks sam!
[2016-03-31 21:33:45] sleger : mark: what contract ?
[2016-03-31 21:34:13] mark : no longer looking for size, mostly trying to have a look
[2016-03-31 21:34:38] sleger : I disagree with what was said, if you leave a large order, say 100k buy at 415 now on weekly, if the market on finex drops you will then get executed / picked off
[2016-03-31 21:35:02] sleger : mark: so you changed your mind about doing a large size order in 10 minutes ?
[2016-03-31 21:35:35] mark : whether I do size depends on the tightness of quotes, looking for a 2 way to see how far apart it is
[2016-03-31 21:35:57] mark : if it's tight enough, would be interesting
[2016-03-31 21:36:39] mark : 25k or 100k contracts isn't that large
[2016-03-31 21:37:03] mark : In nominal bitcoin terms
[2016-03-31 21:38:50] sleger : you didnt say which contract
[2016-03-31 21:39:01] mark : either dailies or junes
[2016-03-31 21:40:11] sleger : june 25k contract i can make 4$ bid/ask spread
[2016-03-31 21:40:40] sleger : taking large position on dailies will kill you with the settlement fee you have to pay every day then retake the position etc...
[2016-03-31 21:41:03] mark : good point
[2016-03-31 21:41:51] mark : $4 is interesting
[2016-03-31 21:41:57] sleger : so 4$ spr on june if I show it you promise to trade for 25k contracts ?
[2016-03-31 21:42:06] mark : can't right now
[2016-03-31 21:42:14] mark : I'll get back to you
[2016-03-31 21:42:15] mark : Sorry!
[2016-03-31 21:42:25] mark : Hate to disappoint
[2016-03-31 22:05:07] sleger : sounds like mark karpeles
[2016-03-31 22:24:02] mark : sleger: +1
[2016-03-31 22:24:25] mark : sleger: out on bail fresh outta jail
[2016-03-31 22:24:31] mark : feels good to be alive
[2016-03-31 22:28:34] messiaen8844 : mark: WHERE'S MY MONEY?
[2016-03-31 22:28:49] mark : cat ate it
[2016-03-31 22:28:51] mark : tibanne
[2016-03-31 22:34:06] messiaen8844 : segwit fixing malleability issues, think you can restore my money now?
[2016-03-31 22:34:56] nip : messiaen8844: that would require hard fork segwit
[2016-03-31 22:36:30] messiaen8844 : DAMN, MONEY LOST
[2016-03-31 22:36:48] messiaen8844 : but seriously, SF segwit not fixing most malleability as well?
[2016-03-31 22:37:03] messiaen8844 : that is, for those who opt-in to do SW transactions?
[2016-03-31 22:37:25] nip : it is. i mean a hardfork would be needed to retroactively fix it
[2016-03-31 22:37:43] nip : soft fork works going forward for those who opt in
[2016-03-31 22:41:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 101 @ 0.02756
[2016-03-31 22:43:53] messiaen8844 : despite the FUD, many major improvements rolled out this year to BTC, sipa = 10 developers
[2016-03-31 23:16:49] mark : bitcoin has too much fud
[2016-03-31 23:17:00] mark : on the other hand, there's a financial incentive to create fud, if you're shorting
[2016-03-31 23:17:07] mark : (or accumulating)
[2016-04-01 00:22:05] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/715695596129148929
[2016-04-01 00:52:12] mpkomara : When are you going to post the next ETH contract?
[2016-04-01 00:52:16] mpkomara : I hope it will be posted before settle
[2016-04-01 01:14:27] nip : i suggested that a while back
[2016-04-01 01:14:32] nip : they did it for the china contract
[2016-04-01 03:35:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 499 @ 0.02776
[2016-04-01 03:38:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02814 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-01 03:38:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02826 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-01 03:53:48] nip : @BitMEX unloading and reloading the chart stopped the memory leak
[2016-04-01 03:54:17] nip : resizing it to no size as you suggested
[2016-04-01 04:02:50] PsychoMantis : does anyone here think ETH will be worth more by Dec?
[2016-04-01 04:04:32] messiaen8844 : don't care, only interested in weekly outcomes for 25x play ;)
[2016-04-01 04:05:03] PsychoMantis : messiaen8844: lol
[2016-04-01 04:05:12] messiaen8844 : I only HODL 5 eth
[2016-04-01 04:05:16] messiaen8844 : that I mined in the very first day
[2016-04-01 04:05:38] messiaen8844 : with ultra crappy notebook GPU
[2016-04-01 04:07:16] PsychoMantis : messiaen8844: i sold off my ETH toon soon at the 1.5M range damn.
[2016-04-01 04:57:38] jung1 : so rebuy
[2016-04-01 05:17:15] messiaen8844 : once BTC gets more volatile ETH7D will be a pain to trade...
[2016-04-01 05:17:50] messiaen8844 : ETHUSD easier choice
[2016-04-01 05:22:34] mpkomara : i like the quantos
[2016-04-01 05:24:23] nip : need quoted in usd/eth pays btc
[2016-04-01 05:24:29] nip : best of both worlds
[2016-04-01 05:25:46] nip : would be a very fun and interesting instrument to trade
[2016-04-01 05:28:22] messiaen8844 : yes nip, if possible that would be great
[2016-04-01 06:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3000 @ 413.81
[2016-04-01 06:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1 @ 413.76 :punch: :whale:
[2016-04-01 06:17:55] germanjew : very nice April fools!
[2016-04-01 06:18:03] germanjew : ShitMEX
[2016-04-01 06:29:34] BitMEX_Wally : Check out our new altcoin trading platform: http://bitmex.com/new-alts
[2016-04-01 06:30:22] dmbtmxdm : I hope you guys post that all over the internet
[2016-04-01 06:30:33] dmbtmxdm : and gain some masive publicity, and then the spreads decrease
[2016-04-01 06:30:51] dmbtmxdm : due to new people
[2016-04-01 06:32:18] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-04-01 06:32:24] amahte : china will give the best april fool :))
[2016-04-01 06:32:29] amahte : 380 usd btc
[2016-04-01 06:32:50] ayy_lmao : bitmex_wally
[2016-04-01 06:32:52] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4cuand/announcing_the_launch_of_the_bitmex_altcoin/
[2016-04-01 06:32:57] ayy_lmao : this is the funniest shit i have ever seen
[2016-04-01 06:40:17] messiaen8844 : congrats guys, cool stuff.
[2016-04-01 06:59:42] Skuffone : haha very funny Bitmex
[2016-04-01 07:00:15] Skuffone : Didnt click the link though it was a phishing email at first
[2016-04-01 07:00:23] Skuffone : APRIL FOOLS!!!
[2016-04-01 08:11:06] atodorov07 : lol
[2016-04-01 09:22:31] tscha : the "about us" is just gold https://www.shitmex.com/app/aboutUs
[2016-04-01 10:14:54] habibi : https://www.shitmex.com/app/faq tscha look here :)
[2016-04-01 10:15:38] habibi : only think i miss is 5 minute contracts instead dailys
[2016-04-01 11:35:32] BombaUcigasa : Meanwhile at shitmex... https://i.imgur.com/MEm20NG.png
[2016-04-01 11:49:21] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/jxhc7 deal with that!
[2016-04-01 11:51:14] rapidtrades : what are u? Children?
[2016-04-01 11:51:31] rapidtrades : a bunch of children, that's what you are!
[2016-04-01 11:52:08] habibi : We are*
[2016-04-01 12:43:29] chromaticcr1 : Love the pun mail
[2016-04-01 15:24:34] vergeDEV : lol
[2016-04-01 15:40:14] tscha : you should change Sam's name on shitmex to Samuel Greed
[2016-04-01 15:40:35] BitMEX_Sam : :o
[2016-04-01 15:41:44] rentchev : hey guys I got an email about a new order type YOLO and new coins, but I don't see euther
[2016-04-01 15:43:49] BitMEX_Sam : rentchev: See https://www.bitmex.com/new-alts
[2016-04-01 15:45:20] rentchev : so I need a separate account for shitMex?
[2016-04-01 15:45:33] BitMEX_Sam : It automatically logs in
[2016-04-01 15:45:45] rentchev : cool, thanks
[2016-04-01 15:46:59] rentchev : it says I have 10 XBT
[2016-04-01 15:47:27] rentchev : but in my BitMEX I have a differnt amount
[2016-04-01 15:47:58] rentchev : am I missing something?
[2016-04-01 15:48:17] rentchev : BitMEX_Sam?
[2016-04-01 15:48:50] trestres : 10 XBT are a gift from Sam
[2016-04-01 15:49:43] BitMEX_Sam : rentchev: It's a separate exchange
[2016-04-01 15:49:46] BitMEX_Sam : If you can't tell... it's not real
[2016-04-01 15:50:00] rentchev : lol
[2016-04-01 15:50:09] rentchev : so just for fun trading
[2016-04-01 15:50:22] rentchev : that for sure was not made clear in the email
[2016-04-01 15:51:06] BitMEX_Sam : :) It's a product of the current date
[2016-04-01 16:04:59] sleger : rentchev: wow you reach new highs ....
[2016-04-01 16:06:08] rentchev : sleger I love you too
[2016-04-01 16:53:04] rapidtrades : f market
[2016-04-01 16:53:13] rapidtrades : ike all of it, f it
[2016-04-01 18:09:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 149 @ 0.02777
[2016-04-01 22:35:14] rapidtrades : cmon China...time to devalue ur shit
[2016-04-01 22:35:25] rapidtrades : everything's calm now
[2016-04-01 22:54:27] sleger : april's fool ?
[2016-04-01 23:14:27] rapidtrades : FREE MONEY WHERE DO I SIGN UP
[2016-04-01 23:15:36] rapidtrades : we are one with China now <3
[2016-04-01 23:20:44] zanza : so, $415 ...
[2016-04-01 23:23:23] rapidtrades : zanza: yea...sup?
[2016-04-01 23:56:18] storzo : anyone?
[2016-04-02 00:20:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 10000 @ 418.20
[2016-04-02 00:20:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 425 @ 419.18
[2016-04-02 00:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 570 @ 0.02759
[2016-04-02 00:22:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02767
[2016-04-02 01:11:08] rentchev : hey guys, the XBT index doesn't seem right
[2016-04-02 01:11:25] rentchev : all of the exchanges have higher price than the index
[2016-04-02 01:12:12] rentchev : Bitfinex is supposed to be 31% of th eindex
[2016-04-02 01:12:13] rentchev : the
[2016-04-02 01:12:38] rentchev : any ideas why that is?
[2016-04-02 01:56:46] rentchev : I was able to sell my contracts, but the spread on the 7
[2016-04-02 01:56:56] rentchev : 7D is huge
[2016-04-02 02:25:32] HugeRoo : Is there a end-of-monthly rebalance on the quarterlies?
[2016-04-02 02:29:02] kingscrown : buy PIGGY at https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Register?referrer=kingscrown [referal that doesnt give anything lol] sell at Poloniex. profit.
[2016-04-02 02:38:12] BitMEX_Wally : HugeRoo: All contracts get rebalanced on Fridays
[2016-04-02 02:38:45] HugeRoo : Yep, just discovered that.
[2016-04-02 02:38:46] BitMEX_Wally : History is here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-04-02 02:41:06] HugeRoo : It's a little bit confusing
[2016-04-02 02:41:26] HugeRoo : but I'm sure I'll figure out
[2016-04-02 02:49:02] BitMEX_Wally : A rebalance does not affect your total PNL
[2016-04-02 02:49:47] BitMEX_Wally : It moves unrealisedPnl to realisedPnl so you can withdraw it
[2016-04-02 05:35:41] rapidtrades : this could be it fellas
[2016-04-02 05:44:30] rapidtrades : it may be slowly happening
[2016-04-02 06:30:53] rentchev : What is that rapid?
[2016-04-02 12:02:31] rapidtrades : good morning
[2016-04-02 12:02:52] rapidtrades : it's a fine day in totally not the United States of America
[2016-04-02 12:05:01] Lorix : How long do withdrawls showing as "Confirmed" actually take to hit the blockchain?
[2016-04-02 12:06:58] ayy_lmao : did u just submit it?
[2016-04-02 12:07:14] rapidtrades : they'll start processing in 1h @Lorix
[2016-04-02 12:07:17] ayy_lmao : they process them in an hour
[2016-04-02 12:07:19] Lorix : i submitted it about 24 hours ago
[2016-04-02 12:07:30] rapidtrades : Lorix: about when exactly
[2016-04-02 12:07:41] rapidtrades : cos they process 1 per day in 1h
[2016-04-02 12:08:14] Lorix : Checked my email, confirmed the email 22 hours ago according to gmail
[2016-04-02 12:08:25] Lorix : so must be right on the cusp
[2016-04-02 12:08:40] BitMEX_Wally : Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC which is in an hour
[2016-04-02 12:08:52] rapidtrades : Lorix: yeah u missed ti, will be done today instead
[2016-04-02 12:09:15] Lorix : yep, timing makes perfect sense
[2016-04-02 12:09:23] rapidtrades : who's bullish/bearish on btc
[2016-04-02 12:09:28] Lorix : just wanted to be sure - all good ;)
[2016-04-02 13:32:44] rentchev : bullish on BTC here
[2016-04-02 14:43:37] sleger : june premium was massacred
[2016-04-02 14:54:09] rentchev : what do you mean sleger?
[2016-04-02 14:54:43] rentchev : looks pretty consistent to me
[2016-04-02 15:27:00] sleger : no
[2016-04-02 15:38:17] rapidtrades : sleger: what do u think about tsla?
[2016-04-02 15:38:33] sleger : the S is cool
[2016-04-02 15:40:01] rapidtrades : meant the stock bro
[2016-04-02 15:40:20] sleger : too uncertain either way, wouldnt play
[2016-04-02 15:40:40] rapidtrades : lot of hype around it
[2016-04-02 15:42:16] rapidtrades : pretty much only thing r/investing and r/wsb agree on is tsla buy
[2016-04-02 16:04:00] rentchev : rapidtrades why would you play the stock market when you have crypto :-)
[2016-04-02 16:11:15] sleger : have you heard the saying : dont put all your eggs in one basket ?
[2016-04-02 18:01:22] rapidtrades : yeah diversification is always good
[2016-04-02 18:01:55] rapidtrades : i started with fx, then added cryptos now i'm demoing options and stocks
[2016-04-02 18:07:03] rapidtrades : on a risk-adjusted basis crypto is by far the easiest market though
[2016-04-02 18:18:07] rapidtrades : was reading more about teslas....looks like the car's a bitch to fix
[2016-04-02 21:22:10] rapidtrades : can smone explain how and why okc futures fill in the middle of the spread like constantly
[2016-04-02 21:22:37] rapidtrades : like once or twice i understand its algo shifting shit around but all the time?
[2016-04-02 21:31:08] BitMEX_Sam : Hidden orders or volumizing
[2016-04-02 21:41:35] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: volumzing? u mean faking volume?
[2016-04-02 21:47:02] BitMEX_Sam : Possibly. Nobody I know of has proof but there certainly is a lot of circumstantial evidence
[2016-04-02 21:47:22] BitMEX_Sam : And their ex-CTO claimed they were doing it when he left.
[2016-04-02 21:47:57] rapidtrades : yeah this looks super weird
[2016-04-02 21:48:09] rapidtrades : their spot looks fair but this is smth else
[2016-04-02 21:49:01] rapidtrades : they have a 0.03% fee so it doesn't make sense for bots to shift money around
[2016-04-02 21:49:53] rapidtrades : all trades past hour have been in middle, no bid/ask hits
[2016-04-02 21:55:13] BitMEX_Sam : Unless it's run by the exchange itself or partners
[2016-04-02 21:55:35] BitMEX_Sam : On spot it's pretty much a given that washing happens every day since there's 0% fees
[2016-04-02 22:00:34] rapidtrades : doesn't matter to me, spot is easy to get fills
[2016-04-02 22:00:47] rapidtrades : futures are super shady
[2016-04-02 22:08:51] rapidtrades : always in the f middle man, some BS
[2016-04-02 22:21:04] tscha : okc.com spot is shady too, although they have fees
[2016-04-02 22:21:19] tscha : the whole company is shady
[2016-04-02 23:36:23] ethexio : Why is BitMex getting such negativity lately?
[2016-04-02 23:36:59] ethexio : Just haters? Something up?
[2016-04-02 23:40:09] ethexio : Also, @BitMEX_Sam would you be cool with me writing native mobile app using API? Web is responsive and all, but having something native for mobile might be a good idea and make it easier. Or are you already working on it?
[2016-04-02 23:47:14] rapidtrades : i still can't get shit filled
[2016-04-02 23:47:40] rapidtrades : if u put a bid they just bid up the price...i switch to diff contract, then they bid up the price there
[2016-04-02 23:47:43] rapidtrades : fake ass volume
[2016-04-02 23:47:47] rapidtrades : scam exchnage
[2016-04-02 23:50:25] rapidtrades : same shit on finex, scam
[2016-04-02 23:50:38] rapidtrades : only fair place is okc spot and here
[2016-04-02 23:50:45] rapidtrades : well btc-e too
[2016-04-02 23:54:24] rapidtrades : its such an obvious scam too...over 95% of volume is done in the middle where there are no bid/asks
[2016-04-02 23:55:05] rapidtrades : they could at least fake it properly...but then again they're chinese
[2016-04-02 23:55:13] rapidtrades : that's their f culture
[2016-04-02 23:58:20] BitMEX_Sam : ethexio: I'm planning on making the mobile site more responsive in the future, but a mobile app isn't in the cards just yet
[2016-04-02 23:59:07] BitMEX_Sam : Re: negativity nothing has changed, just a few vocal users, decide for yourself :)
[2016-04-02 23:59:29] BitMEX_Sam : As for building an app yourself, you're welcome to, there's technically no barrier as our API is complete and fully documented - but I would put forth that it would be very complex to do so
[2016-04-03 00:00:43] BitMEX_Sam : If you do decide to go ahead, feel free to email me at any time if you need assistance with the API
[2016-04-03 00:03:38] rapidtrades : unless market's moving, futures and finex are f useless
[2016-04-03 00:04:18] rapidtrades : hell even if its moving, finexers fomo like crazy...site lags the f out
[2016-04-03 00:04:38] rapidtrades : this whole space is so amateurish man, will give me cancer
[2016-04-03 00:04:40] sleger : only you my friend... have no problem with finex or 0kcoin fut
[2016-04-03 00:05:10] rapidtrades : don't lie feg
[2016-04-03 00:05:38] rapidtrades : been trying to fill for 3+ hrs now
[2016-04-03 00:06:09] sleger : what's a feg ?
[2016-04-03 00:06:15] rapidtrades : u prolly run bots to do ur bidding
[2016-04-03 00:06:21] rapidtrades : sleger: a homosexual man
[2016-04-03 00:06:29] sleger : yeah but you think you can just buy at the bid all the time or below, guess what it doesnt work
[2016-04-03 00:06:39] sleger : no im talking about my manual trading
[2016-04-03 00:06:47] sleger : i am not homosexual
[2016-04-03 00:06:56] sleger : you seem to have an obsession with those though
[2016-04-03 00:09:22] rapidtrades : drunk ppl outside my window are not helping
[2016-04-03 00:11:16] sleger : dont have eggs ?
[2016-04-03 00:11:47] sleger : if its cold out water guns with really cold water works fine too
[2016-04-03 00:13:48] BitMEX_Sam : Pellet guns are good for drunks & Harley riders
[2016-04-03 00:14:34] sleger : more likely to have problems with the police though
[2016-04-03 00:14:42] sleger : eggs are pretty cool
[2016-04-03 00:19:31] habibi : sleger boiling water is good option as well