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[2016-03-25 11:27:47] splash : market markers are really doing their job right now
[2016-03-25 11:28:11] splash : 32 minutes to settlement, price going up, but they are not following
[2016-03-25 11:28:24] splash : because they know easy money when they c it
[2016-03-25 11:30:17] atodorov07 : hello
[2016-03-25 11:31:32] atodorov07 : any bitmex guys here?
[2016-03-25 11:31:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi
[2016-03-25 11:31:51] atodorov07 : just wanted to tell you guys
[2016-03-25 11:31:54] atodorov07 : the new ui is amazing
[2016-03-25 11:32:05] BitMEX_Arthur : Sam will be very happy to hear that
[2016-03-25 11:32:12] atodorov07 : tell him
[2016-03-25 11:32:30] atodorov07 : bitmex is lightyears higher than competitors
[2016-03-25 11:32:39] atodorov07 : and still going
[2016-03-25 11:32:47] atodorov07 : so keep up the great work, ok?!
[2016-03-25 11:32:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Keep trading :)
[2016-03-25 11:33:02] BitMEX_Arthur : :)
[2016-03-25 11:33:07] atodorov07 : pleasure
[2016-03-25 11:33:15] BitMEX_Arthur : :smiley:
[2016-03-25 12:21:44] ett1 : how can I see what price futures settled at, so i can know what my breakeven price at expiry?
[2016-03-25 12:22:25] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: You can see your trade history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-03-25 12:22:47] BitMEX_Wally : Or the settlement history table: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-03-25 12:23:12] ett1 : Thanks!
[2016-03-25 13:49:35] ansc01 : this site reminds me of good old icbit.se
[2016-03-25 14:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 148 @ 0.02546
[2016-03-25 15:17:26] mpkomara : ansc01: YEP IT DOES HONK HONK
[2016-03-25 15:18:53] ansc01 : mpkomara: so why did orderbook.net close down?
[2016-03-25 15:19:50] mpkomara : regulatory issues i believe, but really who knows
[2016-03-25 15:20:37] ansc01 : haha the aml&kyc here looks a bit on the weak side too
[2016-03-25 15:26:51] BitMEX_Sam : Morning everyone
[2016-03-25 15:27:04] j8 : hey sam
[2016-03-25 15:27:28] BitMEX_Sam : Hey j8. How goes it
[2016-03-25 15:28:10] j8 : not bad. pretty uneventful quarterly settlement
[2016-03-25 15:31:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, a little churn there right at the end but overall pretty quiet
[2016-03-25 18:29:37] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: looks like something changed with the order entry box for price ?
[2016-03-25 18:30:49] BitMEX_Sam : What's the issue?
[2016-03-25 18:33:27] sleger : text selection and typing over is messy
[2016-03-25 18:33:50] BitMEX_Sam : I don't see any change here
[2016-03-25 18:34:12] BitMEX_Sam : Could you define "messy" for me here?
[2016-03-25 18:34:49] sleger : i selected the text to type over (numbers in the price box) and then typed over but it didnt replace the existing text
[2016-03-25 18:35:09] sleger : got to go now but if i can reproduce more precisely i will tell you how, but i noticed this few times today
[2016-03-25 18:35:38] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - let me know if you have more precise reproduction steps. I don't see any issue
[2016-03-25 18:51:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02580
[2016-03-25 21:50:24] NukeLaloosh : any ideas why does polo has the ETH volume v. more order types, lower fees at kraken?
[2016-03-25 21:53:25] nip : lower fees, more alts, easier to sign up and start trading
[2016-03-25 21:53:43] nip : by the way i think this is the ETH bottom
[2016-03-25 22:03:07] micmix : definitely, there is no way it will go below 0.025, people are lining up to buy cheap ETH
[2016-03-25 22:03:25] nip : yeah the buy orders are coming in on poloniex now
[2016-03-25 22:03:30] nip : nice green candle
[2016-03-25 22:08:32] mpkomara : nip: i like your style. you should come onboard the SS ARBITRAGE HONK HONK
[2016-03-25 22:09:37] nip : looks like i called it correctly again
[2016-03-25 22:11:15] micmix : nip: that was sarcasm BTW. it will go up, it will go down and you can make money trading it, just don't be like those guys still waiting for $10,000 bitcoin
[2016-03-25 22:11:47] thehawthorne : why
[2016-03-25 22:12:00] thehawthorne : bitcoin will go 10,000 this year
[2016-03-25 22:12:47] micmix : of course, and we will see $100 ETH in a month :-)
[2016-03-25 23:46:35] nip : 100 eth and 10000 bitcoin are two different things
[2016-03-25 23:47:14] mpkomara : nip: not even comparable
[2016-03-25 23:58:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02574
[2016-03-26 00:01:48] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Wally: do the REKT liq's show on the ticker?
[2016-03-26 00:04:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.02588
[2016-03-26 00:04:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 91 @ 0.02589
[2016-03-26 00:05:49] mpkomara : NukeLaloosh: idk but i LOVE EM HONK HONK
[2016-03-26 00:06:23] nip : NukeLaloosh: they do
[2016-03-26 00:08:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 198 @ 0.02628
[2016-03-26 00:11:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 24 @ 0.02636
[2016-03-26 00:34:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 82 @ 0.02669
[2016-03-26 00:39:27] nip : its starting
[2016-03-26 01:04:35] micmix : weekend pump, usually ends Mon-Tue but it's Easter so could be a bit longer. not going to be a strong one IMHO, polo volume is not there
[2016-03-26 01:06:55] nip : i just wonder who is selling today
[2016-03-26 01:13:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 11781 @ 417.13
[2016-03-26 01:16:35] micmix : whole bunch of ETH arrived on polo, plenty available for margin shorts
[2016-03-26 01:17:49] micmix : you can see bots replenishing the ask side, it doesn't drop below 800k for long
[2016-03-26 01:17:52] nip : how much?
[2016-03-26 01:22:17] nip : funny thing about eth shorts is they always have to buy back in
[2016-03-26 01:33:08] micmix : polo cold wallet has over 11 million ETH
[2016-03-26 02:51:45] LR3NZ : REKT
[2016-03-26 03:19:41] nip : micmix: because its the best place to buy eth
[2016-03-26 03:33:25] rentchev : Nice place to short ETH again here
[2016-03-26 03:36:37] rentchev : Is REKT a bot?
[2016-03-26 03:40:24] micmix : rentchev: yes, REKT is my bot that shows all liquidations in realtime
[2016-03-26 06:04:18] rentchev : Nor much going on in here
[2016-03-26 11:44:42] rapidtrades : good morning
[2016-03-26 11:49:47] thehawthorne : hi raptra
[2016-03-26 11:53:02] tscha : lol: http://www.wfplsiu.com/
[2016-03-26 11:53:39] rapidtrades : it's not bitmex chat until smone posts a shady link
[2016-03-26 11:56:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 203 @ 414.87
[2016-03-26 12:00:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 11000 @ 415.24
[2016-03-26 12:05:38] rapidtrades : so since bitmex is staying on utc, for us in europe settlement will be at 14:00 from tomorrow?
[2016-03-26 12:29:46] tscha : "for us in europe"... yeah, keep on trying rapid
[2016-03-26 12:31:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 4708 @ 0.02561
[2016-03-26 13:11:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.02580
[2016-03-26 13:17:54] rapidtrades : Man I love Europe...
[2016-03-26 13:18:10] rapidtrades : socialized medicine A++
[2016-03-26 13:18:46] rapidtrades : love having my Euros slowly inflated with negative rates
[2016-03-26 13:19:31] rapidtrades : living in europe is just peachy
[2016-03-26 13:36:49] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: any tips on how to immigrate there?
[2016-03-26 13:37:28] arbitrage001 : wouldn't mind working as a gigolo
[2016-03-26 14:02:19] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: I hear there's a lot of openings for a suicide bomber
[2016-03-26 14:02:37] rapidtrades : not a very stable gig though
[2016-03-26 14:30:33] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: I am curious how a law abiding citizen such as myself having a hard time gettingg into europe
[2016-03-26 14:31:13] arbitrage001 : while islamic extremelist have no problem getting in
[2016-03-26 14:32:03] arbitrage001 : i have long penis and twisted tongue
[2016-03-26 14:32:17] arbitrage001 : have no problem pleasing most women
[2016-03-26 14:32:32] arbitrage001 : fat or ugly
[2016-03-26 14:42:48] BitMEX_Wally : NukeLaloosh: When the position is taken over by the exchange the liquidation is published (and the REKT not reports it), then when the position is closed out in the order book those trades are reported as usual
[2016-03-26 15:04:04] sleger : "arbitrage001: fat or ugly" is that what altcoiners are going for ?
[2016-03-26 15:31:22] arbitrage001 : sleger: hard to tell, eth still stronger than what i expect
[2016-03-26 15:32:55] arbitrage001 : even xmr is going up
[2016-03-26 15:33:35] arbitrage001 : life expectency is longer than many coins
[2016-03-26 15:34:20] arbitrage001 : and finally, ltc is still staying at stable price
[2016-03-26 15:34:50] arbitrage001 : which make it better than btc for medium of exchange
[2016-03-26 15:38:05] sleger : ltc > btc for medium of exchange ? lol
[2016-03-26 15:42:11] rapidtrades : DISCLAIMER: sleger is short LTC
[2016-03-26 15:42:54] arbitrage001 : i am neither long or short in any coin
[2016-03-26 15:43:11] arbitrage001 : so price no longer have any effect on me
[2016-03-26 15:46:40] sleger : rapidtrades: true : ltc is to coins what habibi is to a chatbox
[2016-03-26 15:59:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.02619
[2016-03-26 16:00:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1936 @ 0.02644
[2016-03-26 16:22:24] habibi : All the best for holiday time sleger, for rest as well;)
[2016-03-26 17:37:40] rapidtrades : habibi: thanks man :)
[2016-03-26 18:10:06] nip : alright fellas lets go
[2016-03-26 18:10:21] nip : hopefully we get another good eth day
[2016-03-26 20:39:27] dmbtmxdm : If it pushes up any more, we will start seeing liquidations
[2016-03-26 21:03:14] nip : BitMEX team, have you considered keeping at least two contracts for each series running at a given time? i had trouble managing my exposure because i couldnt roll my ETH position from last week to this week.
[2016-03-26 21:04:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's a consideration, but we also want to avoid splitting liquidity
[2016-03-26 21:04:46] BitMEX_Sam : It's likely we may create more XBT48H-style contracts, where a position becomes one in the next primary contract after expiry
[2016-03-26 21:04:48] nip : maybe you could list it 24 hours in advance instead of having two at all times?
[2016-03-26 21:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: that's a good idea. Let me talk to the team about it, we understand your concern
[2016-03-26 21:05:08] nip : yeah like a roll contract that appears in advance and becomes the next weekly or monthly
[2016-03-26 21:07:27] sleger : thats what bitVC does they list the next 7D 24H before the previous one expires
[2016-03-26 21:08:18] sleger : also they do automatic deleveraging which is infinitely superior to dpe as more and more people start to understand
[2016-03-26 21:33:00] mpkomara : all good ideas. I submitted my input via support ticket
[2016-03-26 21:33:10] mpkomara : i hope that something like this is implemented
[2016-03-26 21:34:45] splash : factom on polo has been added to tradingview!
[2016-03-26 21:45:07] rapidtrades : splash: symbol?
[2016-03-26 21:45:24] splash : fctbtc
[2016-03-26 21:47:58] rapidtrades : splash: did they switch ethbtc from kraken to polo?
[2016-03-26 21:55:41] splash : i dont know if they switched, but they got ethbtc from polo now.
[2016-03-26 21:55:51] splash : i think kraken is still there too
[2016-03-26 21:57:02] sleger : rapidtrades: getting into shitcoins ?
[2016-03-26 21:57:56] rapidtrades : sleger: i may sell it yes
[2016-03-26 21:58:20] rapidtrades : risk reward is very low right now though
[2016-03-26 22:00:04] splash : rapidtrades: i think so too
[2016-03-26 22:00:11] splash : no good opening i c
[2016-03-26 22:09:47] sleger : rapidtrades: sell eth ? i would sell other ones but eth is a bit risky
[2016-03-26 22:39:15] rapidtrades : we're back to 416
[2016-03-26 22:58:13] sleger : havent we been there for over a month now
[2016-03-26 23:30:34] rapidtrades : nah yday we traded to 418/419
[2016-03-26 23:31:34] rapidtrades : it was few days ago but yeah, 419
[2016-03-26 23:35:09] micmix : back to our regularly scheduled programming on bitcoin channel: watching the paint dry
[2016-03-26 23:35:23] messiaen8844 : Finex was 419 yesterday, but not XBX
[2016-03-26 23:37:24] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, are you going to list 48h-24h spread on Monday? As far as I remember Arthur said something like that.
[2016-03-26 23:48:32] micmix : it looks good on testnet
[2016-03-26 23:50:09] micmix : Happy Easter everyone and happy trading! see you all later
[2016-03-26 23:50:27] sleger : micmix: any trial on fix api for 0kc ?
[2016-03-26 23:50:52] micmix : sleger: going to try again this weekend
[2016-03-26 23:51:14] micmix : maybe they got market data to work at least
[2016-03-26 23:51:19] sleger : havent tried in 10 days, pet issues....
[2016-03-26 23:53:17] micmix : I didn't touch anything in couple of weeks, almost no volume and no volatility
[2016-03-26 23:53:53] micmix : hope your pet is ok
[2016-03-27 00:03:02] sleger : micmix: thanks, she's just had surgery in intensive care overnight now
[2016-03-27 00:11:43] micmix : really hope she'll pull through
[2016-03-27 00:24:41] sleger : micmix: thank you
[2016-03-27 01:47:27] shadow : hey
[2016-03-27 01:47:29] shadow : guys
[2016-03-27 01:47:41] shadow : where is bitcoin vilatility index to trade
[2016-03-27 01:47:48] shadow : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.BVOL
[2016-03-27 01:47:52] shadow : can only see this
[2016-03-27 01:56:18] rapidtrades : u can't trade it anymore
[2016-03-27 04:05:23] HoonyahNoonyah69 : What is the bitcoin volatility index?
[2016-03-27 04:06:09] BitMEX_Wally : The futures are no longer listed, but the guide is here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/BVOL
[2016-03-27 04:09:24] rapidtrades : yo?
[2016-03-27 12:18:44] splash : yo
[2016-03-27 12:23:51] j8 : lol 8 hours later. hey splash
[2016-03-27 12:26:10] ansc01 : BitMEX_Wally: How long until my withdrawal is processed?
[2016-03-27 12:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 283 @ 0.02547
[2016-03-27 13:03:54] BitMEX_Wally : ansc01: Withdrawals are processed at 13:00 UTC (i.e. right now)
[2016-03-27 13:07:45] ansc01 : ok thx
[2016-03-27 14:02:51] ansc01 : still no transaction
[2016-03-27 14:17:04] BitMEX_Sam : ansc01: Sorry for the delay, please check now, you should see the transaction pending.
[2016-03-27 14:17:22] ansc01 : I see it, thx
[2016-03-27 15:40:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 25 @ 424.50
[2016-03-27 15:41:42] rentchev : Finally some movement :)
[2016-03-27 15:42:41] wurstgelee : looks like breakout
[2016-03-27 15:46:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 1 @ 485.87 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-27 15:52:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 131 @ 0.00435
[2016-03-27 15:57:44] rapidtrades : any news?
[2016-03-27 15:58:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02504
[2016-03-27 15:58:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 1500 @ 428.42
[2016-03-27 16:04:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 800 @ 0.02476
[2016-03-27 16:17:55] BombaUcigasa : --- mark ---
[2016-03-27 16:23:52] rapidtrades : finex needs to calm the f down
[2016-03-27 16:26:55] habibi : breakout on btc ! :) ah nice
[2016-03-27 16:27:07] rapidtrades : shut up hajibi
[2016-03-27 16:27:18] habibi : u short:)?
[2016-03-27 16:27:49] rapidtrades : why would i be short
[2016-03-27 16:28:07] habibi : why i would listen to u?
[2016-03-27 16:28:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.02497
[2016-03-27 16:30:08] rapidtrades : ur right, u should short btc
[2016-03-27 16:30:43] habibi : ah i dont know what u talking about, stay calm
[2016-03-27 16:31:19] sleger : rapid complains when nothing happens and complains when something happens
[2016-03-27 16:32:02] habibi : btc suprised rapid once again
[2016-03-27 16:33:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 2400 @ 487.44
[2016-03-27 16:34:21] rapidtrades : f*ck it, i failed to fill 40% of my long....this is why u need algos i guess
[2016-03-27 16:35:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 4000 @ 428.92
[2016-03-27 16:37:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.02444
[2016-03-27 16:40:25] rapidtrades : stupid shit trading $3 above everyone...this why u don't put 50% of ur coins on finex
[2016-03-27 16:41:09] habibi : just enjoy the show :)
[2016-03-27 16:42:14] rapidtrades : it's literally the worst exchange, if it's slow u can't get shit filled and if we jump $10 everyone buys like a moron
[2016-03-27 16:42:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02423
[2016-03-27 16:42:50] rapidtrades : going to step out for a bit
[2016-03-27 16:52:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1400 @ 429.54
[2016-03-27 16:53:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 170 @ 430.24
[2016-03-27 16:55:48] rapidtrades : $7 premium..... SUREEE
[2016-03-27 16:57:00] justinlooking : still cheaper than $8 premium
[2016-03-27 17:02:41] j8 : wise words
[2016-03-27 17:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 204 @ 0.02400
[2016-03-27 17:08:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02387
[2016-03-27 17:36:01] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: Hello Sam, is the api changed? https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade/byDate?symbol=.XBT&startTime=2015-10-28&endTime=2015-10-29 aint working, suppose this should work: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.XBT&startTime=2016-02-07&endTime=2016-03-26 However I dont get the full period, only limited queries
[2016-03-27 17:36:49] BitMEX_Sam : Hi roymalmberg, `byDate` was deprecated and removed quite some time ago
[2016-03-27 17:37:10] BitMEX_Sam : The correct invocation is as you posted, but you have to page through the data if you want all of it - there's a row limit of 500 rows
[2016-03-27 17:37:25] roymalmberg : No way around this?
[2016-03-27 17:37:37] roymalmberg : Any reason for this ? :)
[2016-03-27 17:37:47] BitMEX_Sam : No, that's intentional - otherwise it would be quite easy to ddos the API by requesting massive numbers of rows
[2016-03-27 17:38:19] BitMEX_Sam : By putting a max on each invocation we can effectively ratelimit these requests and reduce the stress if many users choose to pull history
[2016-03-27 17:38:26] BitMEX_Sam : See https://github.com/BitMEX/easy-data-scripts/blob/master/fetchTradeHistory.py#L55 for an example of a strategy to pull a full dataset
[2016-03-27 17:39:24] roymalmberg : I see, sweet thank you Sam!
[2016-03-27 17:42:47] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-03-27 18:01:38] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Sam: so is the insurance fund is pooled correct ? one insurance fund covers all the instruments -- ie those trading BTC cover ETH or FACT trader losses and vise versa correct ?
[2016-03-27 18:02:41] BitMEX_Sam : After settlement, the ins fund is pooled, but e.g. if there were profitable liquidations during a given expiry, those are pinned to that contract expiry to offset any DPE
[2016-03-27 18:03:31] BTCVIX : understood -- but we see nothing as to what contracts are contributing the most/least into the fund or what they are drawing either
[2016-03-27 18:04:08] BitMEX_Sam : That's true, at some point in the future we will deliver more itemized details of liquidations and how they were closed
[2016-03-27 18:06:25] BTCVIX : so at current by the data you provide BitMEX is far less transparent or granular than OKC correct?
[2016-03-27 18:22:07] dmbtmxdm : @bitmexstaff how is the liquidity going? Is it getting better every week?
[2016-03-27 18:32:31] rapidtrades : finex needs to back the f*ck off
[2016-03-27 18:34:36] sleger : rapidtrades: not happy price is up ?
[2016-03-27 18:34:46] rapidtrades : i'm only 60% happy
[2016-03-27 18:35:38] splash : rapidtrades: btc i think will at least retrace and give an opportunity to either cover or reaload
[2016-03-27 18:36:16] rapidtrades : doesn't look like to me bud but hope ur right
[2016-03-27 18:37:02] rapidtrades : according to the neckbeards on reddit this is the one true breakout
[2016-03-27 18:37:38] rapidtrades : i think so too, prolly means market will F*ck us all
[2016-03-27 18:38:48] j8 : i think this is about building momentum for 450's
[2016-03-27 18:39:03] j8 : that will be the real test
[2016-03-27 18:39:16] rapidtrades : the timing makes it a bit suspicious....but they've done this before on Christmas so it's par for the course in this shitty markets
[2016-03-27 18:40:10] rapidtrades : back then we retraced the holiday dump...let's see what happens now
[2016-03-27 18:43:46] messiaen8844 : yummy: https://www.tradingview.com/x/efILjSkz/
[2016-03-27 19:03:41] rapidtrades : stupid finex thinks it's China
[2016-03-27 19:03:55] rapidtrades : you're not in China f*ckheads
[2016-03-27 19:11:01] messiaen8844 : XBX index @ 426
[2016-03-27 19:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 359 @ 0.02376
[2016-03-27 20:40:58] rapidtrades : i don't get it...what's the plan when u buy at $3 premium
[2016-03-27 20:47:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 125 @ 427.59
[2016-03-27 20:53:32] messiaen8844 : yummy
[2016-03-27 20:54:12] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: don't act so excited
[2016-03-27 21:05:24] rapidtrades : rly ppl...are u gonna pump this until settlement?
[2016-03-27 21:05:55] rapidtrades : smone paid $3 premium for like 15 hrs
[2016-03-27 21:07:18] messiaen8844 : actually it was more I think
[2016-03-27 21:07:24] messiaen8844 : now $2 premium
[2016-03-27 21:27:09] rapidtrades : so did finex start this pump or what...why are prices there so high
[2016-03-27 21:27:33] rapidtrades : some dumb amero with too much free time on easter?
[2016-03-27 21:28:07] rapidtrades : prolly wasted out of his mind figured he could push prices on easter
[2016-03-27 22:25:58] dmbtmxdm : rapidtrades, you think eth is going down?
[2016-03-27 22:28:18] rapidtrades : yeah but not shorting
[2016-03-27 22:35:13] micmix : 336% fair basis on XBT24H, not bad
[2016-03-27 22:50:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 254767 @ 426.47 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-03-27 22:52:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 3000 @ 424.89
[2016-03-27 22:52:28] BombaUcigasa : IT IS DONE
[2016-03-27 22:52:45] messiaen8844 : woah
[2016-03-27 22:55:57] sleger : damn missed it
[2016-03-27 22:59:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 2199 @ 426.39
[2016-03-27 23:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 750 @ 423.86
[2016-03-27 23:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 355 @ 426.65
[2016-03-27 23:04:19] micmix : sleger: how's your girl?
[2016-03-27 23:04:39] sleger : micmix: she's great now thanks, started to eat again
[2016-03-27 23:04:55] micmix : sleger: oh good, happy to hear!
[2016-03-27 23:05:42] sleger : yes, she's sad with her cone on and in a bit of pain but she'll be alright in a couple of days
[2016-03-27 23:08:20] micmix : yeah, young ones still try to scratch with the cone on, it's funny to watch sometimes. I remember ours figured out how to scratch using a cone, I couldn't believe he can bend that far :-)
[2016-03-27 23:13:04] nip : Is it possible to get a withdrawal processed before the usual daily time?
[2016-03-27 23:14:29] micmix : nip: I don't think so but try to contact support, they might be able to help
[2016-03-27 23:15:17] sleger : micmix: any success with the other FIX api on your side ?
[2016-03-27 23:16:09] micmix : sleger: didn't try yet but I'll have some time after dinner, will let you know tomorrow
[2016-03-28 01:32:44] rapidtrades : keep buying morans
[2016-03-28 01:42:06] j8 : where can i buy morans?
[2016-03-28 01:42:29] daveberns1 : Why such massive premiums on the June & Sept contracts?
[2016-03-28 01:43:08] daveberns1 : (relative to offerings from others)
[2016-03-28 01:44:12] daveberns1 : agree that contango is in play and should be expected
[2016-03-28 01:44:39] daveberns1 : but the general consensus that i have seen previous is roughly a 20%-30% annualized premium
[2016-03-28 01:45:08] j8 : daveberns1: they're quanto futures, they have a linear payout in btc but quadratic in usd
[2016-03-28 01:45:17] rapidtrades : ^
[2016-03-28 01:45:30] j8 : i'll see if i can find some blog posts for you, there's lots written on this
[2016-03-28 01:45:46] rapidtrades : in simple terms, u win more on the upside then u lose on the downside
[2016-03-28 01:46:08] daveberns1 : ok, yes i read a bit about that
[2016-03-28 01:46:12] j8 : this is slightly old but mostly still valid https://blog.bitmex.com/xbt-vs-xbu-chain/
[2016-03-28 01:46:32] daveberns1 : so that accounts for the +20% spread between this product on more vanilla contracts
[2016-03-28 01:46:53] rapidtrades : yeah...current spread seems a bit low imo
[2016-03-28 01:47:06] rapidtrades : at least compared to what we've had few months ago
[2016-03-28 01:47:29] daveberns1 : ha. yes i saw it was close to 70% when I first started coming on here
[2016-03-28 01:47:40] j8 : we've been seeing the 3 month and 6 month contracts trade between 50% and 80% per annual most of the time
[2016-03-28 01:47:46] j8 : up to 100% for a little while
[2016-03-28 01:48:01] rapidtrades : yeah that was the time to sell....my balls were missing
[2016-03-28 01:48:02] daveberns1 : wild
[2016-03-28 01:48:09] rapidtrades : sleger prolly made out like a bandit
[2016-03-28 01:48:10] daveberns1 : thx
[2016-03-28 01:48:24] daveberns1 : as he always seems to do
[2016-03-28 01:53:37] rapidtrades : unreal, ppl buying at $2.5 premium with 10 hrs to go
[2016-03-28 01:54:17] rapidtrades : well at least the volatility is back :)
[2016-03-28 01:54:57] j8 : rapidtrades: is it though? `.BVOL24H` at 1.14
[2016-03-28 01:55:08] j8 : we're just gettin started
[2016-03-28 01:58:47] rapidtrades : compared to past few weeks today is great
[2016-03-28 01:58:57] rapidtrades : we had +7 at one point
[2016-03-28 01:59:06] rapidtrades : $7 premium
[2016-03-28 01:59:30] j8 : yeah i was all over that. didn't take much for the guy to wreck himself
[2016-03-28 02:00:41] rapidtrades : i got some but had to hedge it pretty high.....
[2016-03-28 02:01:18] j8 : over 200k of shorts closed on that liquidation
[2016-03-28 02:02:08] laisee : those were the days ...
[2016-03-28 02:02:45] j8 : that was a couple hours ago @laisee
[2016-03-28 02:04:15] laisee : reminiscing never gets too old, or new
[2016-03-28 02:04:41] zanza : whoa what happened?
[2016-03-28 02:04:52] rapidtrades : zanza: don't worry about it
[2016-03-28 02:05:09] j8 : REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 254767 @ 426.47 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-03-28 02:05:24] rapidtrades : c*nt i always shat my pants
[2016-03-28 02:05:30] rapidtrades : almost*
[2016-03-28 02:05:32] j8 : lol
[2016-03-28 02:05:42] zanza : wow my short is gone
[2016-03-28 02:05:53] laisee : freudian slip ... or the normal behavior for a 7 yr old ?
[2016-03-28 02:06:03] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-03-28 02:06:36] Tycale : Eth retrace \o
[2016-03-28 02:06:57] rapidtrades : noone cares
[2016-03-28 02:07:48] rapidtrades : love how buying and selling 25/50 btc is now normal on finex
[2016-03-28 02:07:58] rapidtrades : every few mins
[2016-03-28 02:08:44] laisee : I thot Finex has slow and crappy?
[2016-03-28 02:08:53] j8 : the volume was super low for a while, i dropped a fee level cause of it :(
[2016-03-28 02:09:19] rapidtrades : yeah i had major problems executing 2 btc orders
[2016-03-28 02:10:45] laisee : slippage on 2BTC? defintely BTC is no threat to Wall st just yet
[2016-03-28 02:11:14] j8 : not slippage, being cheap about taker fees i'm guessing
[2016-03-28 02:11:23] rapidtrades : well not slippage cos i used limits ^
[2016-03-28 02:12:03] miramm1115 : you have to bite the bullet and pay taker fees sometimes
[2016-03-28 02:12:22] laisee : taker fees are breakfast for winners
[2016-03-28 02:13:11] rapidtrades : those were arbs so every cent counts :)
[2016-03-28 02:13:26] miramm1115 : and we're still on the low end of premium for quanto quarterly. might still be worth to buy if you believe in halving pump
[2016-03-28 02:13:34] laisee : as in, bitcoin markets are so slow to transmit market moves you can see a move on another exchange and eat the spread on current one & still make easy money.
[2016-03-28 02:13:48] miramm1115 : laisee: exactly
[2016-03-28 02:13:55] rapidtrades : smtimes....today that wasn't the case
[2016-03-28 02:14:04] miramm1115 : especially if it's a bot doing arbs
[2016-03-28 02:14:07] rapidtrades : okc/finex surged together
[2016-03-28 02:14:13] rapidtrades : yea bots maybe
[2016-03-28 02:14:44] miramm1115 : oops, wrong account again, sorry :-)
[2016-03-28 02:17:07] rapidtrades : if finex had 100/1 leverage u would see morans going all in like here and busto
[2016-03-28 02:17:28] rapidtrades : but now we have to wait them out slowly
[2016-03-28 02:18:17] laisee : slow-mo fomo
[2016-03-28 02:21:56] laisee : miramm1115: In June the halvening will cause BTC price to go below 200 IMHO
[2016-03-28 02:22:47] rapidtrades : wut,,,,but we didn't rally from there
[2016-03-28 02:22:56] rapidtrades : whats the logic behind that
[2016-03-28 02:23:53] laisee : its priced in already and the lack of boost come may will cause price to get all saggy and falling.
[2016-03-28 02:24:29] rapidtrades : idk bitcoin markets don't seem THAT efficient
[2016-03-28 02:24:55] rapidtrades : think we have 1 moer pump to go before dump
[2016-03-28 02:25:53] laisee : that was last night ... no moon in june, sad to say
[2016-03-28 02:30:08] daveberns1 : laisee: interesting theory - although my estimates put halving in July
[2016-03-28 02:30:43] laisee : yeah, but what rhymes with July?
[2016-03-28 02:30:59] rapidtrades : well we're not gonna rally into it, bitcoin markets are not THAT inefficient @daveberns1
[2016-03-28 02:32:22] laisee : efficient market hypothesis disagrees
[2016-03-28 02:32:51] rapidtrades : emh is bullshit
[2016-03-28 02:33:13] laisee : imagine, someone got a PHD for saying that the current price is the right price, always.
[2016-03-28 02:33:46] laisee : rapidtrades: if EMH is wrong how come most traders, even pros, lose money?
[2016-03-28 02:34:39] rapidtrades : hope u realize that u just decimated emh with that statement
[2016-03-28 02:35:28] laisee : how so?
[2016-03-28 02:35:58] rapidtrades : if markets were so efficient as to be random, i'll see a more even distribution of winners/losers, not the usually seen 10%
[2016-03-28 02:37:12] laisee : unless the traders think they can guess when the price is "cheap" or "expensive"
[2016-03-28 02:37:42] rapidtrades : now ur getting close :)
[2016-03-28 02:38:03] nip : laisee: i said eth was cheap this morning
[2016-03-28 02:38:06] nip : now its going up
[2016-03-28 02:38:07] laisee : and they guess wrong, according to EMH.
[2016-03-28 02:38:11] nip : 1 in 10 chance?
[2016-03-28 02:38:23] laisee : nip, 1 in 3
[2016-03-28 02:38:38] rapidtrades : that's winning trades, nip, which ur not a part of btw
[2016-03-28 02:39:04] laisee : nip: can you replicate that lucky guess over many trading sessions?
[2016-03-28 02:39:05] rapidtrades : traders*
[2016-03-28 02:39:17] nip : yeah thats how im up so much
[2016-03-28 02:39:37] rapidtrades : nip: how long have u been trading sir
[2016-03-28 02:40:21] nip : im just talking about eth
[2016-03-28 02:40:57] laisee : ETH is a pump/dump situation, exploiting people not betting on true price ...
[2016-03-28 02:40:59] nip : im up over probably 200 trades
[2016-03-28 02:41:30] laisee : well done, nip
[2016-03-28 02:41:40] miramm1115 : nip, just buy all ETH dips, you can't lose
[2016-03-28 02:41:47] nip : doesnt your phrase true price indicate you dont believe in emh?
[2016-03-28 02:42:09] rapidtrades : pleb has a point
[2016-03-28 02:42:09] nip : miramm1115: i sometimes deleverage at the peaks
[2016-03-28 02:42:11] laisee : ... exactly. dips don't lie
[2016-03-28 02:42:57] nip : markets are efficient...unless the price is wrong but that somehow doesnt disprove emh?
[2016-03-28 02:43:09] nip : because it isnt "true price" so doesnt count?
[2016-03-28 02:43:59] miramm1115 : true price of everything is zero if you wait long enough
[2016-03-28 02:44:04] laisee : I'm not a believer in EMH, personally.
[2016-03-28 02:44:30] nip : no reason to be here if you were
[2016-03-28 02:44:46] rapidtrades : hehe
[2016-03-28 02:44:49] laisee : nip: true, dat
[2016-03-28 02:45:01] rapidtrades : we actually had a random walker here for a while
[2016-03-28 02:45:17] laisee : keynes had it right ... markets are like beauty contest where you should pick the one that other judges like, not the one you like.
[2016-03-28 02:45:23] nip : put orders at midpoint, get rebate, cant lose?
[2016-03-28 02:45:42] nip : if your order fills it cant be a bad price. free money for random walkers
[2016-03-28 02:46:56] laisee : markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid ... random walkers get run over
[2016-03-28 02:47:33] rapidtrades : right....and that's when we make our money
[2016-03-28 02:47:52] nip : cant get run over if you dont leverage
[2016-03-28 02:48:53] laisee : nip: there is always opp cost? like staying in BTC position when ETH is pumpin'
[2016-03-28 02:49:17] rapidtrades : both bc and eth could be 0 in 10 yrs
[2016-03-28 02:49:25] nip : yeah thats a terrible idea
[2016-03-28 02:49:27] rapidtrades : this is still unproven technology
[2016-03-28 02:49:32] nip : could be, wont be
[2016-03-28 02:49:32] miramm1115 : and your unrealized PNL is still money. if you don't realize it into money you pay your mortgage with you didn't make anything
[2016-03-28 02:50:10] rapidtrades : right, u can't bag hold if u trade for a living
[2016-03-28 02:50:24] nip : if you pay your mortgatge with it you didnt make anything either
[2016-03-28 02:50:45] nip : just the middleman
[2016-03-28 02:51:32] miramm1115 : ok, realize it into money you buy your food with
[2016-03-28 02:51:40] laisee : hence, bitcoin to cut out the financial system and its middlemen.
[2016-03-28 02:51:56] nip : and eth to cut out the bitcoin and its middlemen
[2016-03-28 02:51:57] laisee : except thats not how it seems to be turning out
[2016-03-28 02:52:31] laisee : nip: too true. the best thing about BTC is we have ETH and DASH and XDN and ...
[2016-03-28 02:53:12] nip : you forgot ltc
[2016-03-28 02:53:38] rapidtrades : miramm1115: are u micmix
[2016-03-28 02:53:41] laisee : heh. we'll always have LTC, though it's not sexy like b4 ...
[2016-03-28 02:54:05] nip : its a fast and cheap bitcoin
[2016-03-28 02:54:08] nip : it trades the same lately
[2016-03-28 02:54:27] laisee : and same scaling issue, no?
[2016-03-28 02:54:27] miramm1115 : rapidtrades: yes, I shouldn't chat from this account but I'm too lazy to look for my phone to switch :-)
[2016-03-28 02:55:02] laisee : well spotted, rapidtrades
[2016-03-28 02:55:20] nip : how are eth shorts not liquidated
[2016-03-28 02:55:29] nip : right now
[2016-03-28 02:55:52] rapidtrades : how? cos eth is down almost 50%
[2016-03-28 02:56:01] miramm1115 : IDK, my is in profit
[2016-03-28 02:56:05] nip : its way up today
[2016-03-28 02:56:25] laisee : I'm HIGH on ETH
[2016-03-28 03:00:05] j8 : micmix always the voice of reason
[2016-03-28 03:13:36] micmix : thank you j8 :-)
[2016-03-28 03:14:18] micmix : and that miramm guy is an impostor, don't believe anything he says :-)
[2016-03-28 03:15:14] j8 : lol
[2016-03-28 03:16:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02634
[2016-03-28 03:19:28] messiaen8844 : NYT covering Ethereum
[2016-03-28 03:20:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 79 @ 0.02646
[2016-03-28 03:35:19] nip : :)
[2016-03-28 06:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM16`: Buy 4500 @ 491.56
[2016-03-28 07:16:28] mpkomara : HONK HONK
[2016-03-28 07:24:23] Techemy : damn - whaleclub called really well: http://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoin-price-analysis-bullish-momentum-at-last/
[2016-03-28 07:31:24] rapidtrades : cmon losers, $2 premium still? time to give up the dream
[2016-03-28 08:38:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02606
[2016-03-28 09:46:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 549 @ 0.02583
[2016-03-28 11:47:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 75 @ 424.50
[2016-03-28 11:58:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4175 @ 424.02
[2016-03-28 12:02:25] rapidtrades : god dam what a great day
[2016-03-28 12:02:29] rapidtrades : time for round 2!
[2016-03-28 12:28:03] Bauer : Weird.. I went long at 426.15 and got liquidated at 421.9 even though XBT spot price was at 424 at that time O_o
[2016-03-28 12:29:27] BombaUcigasa : Fair price is not fair :P
[2016-03-28 12:30:05] rapidtrades : Bauer: exchange adds a buffer to the price...that's why its better to exit yourself and not rely on execution price
[2016-03-28 12:30:30] Bauer : Oh.. ok. Good to know
[2016-03-28 12:31:17] rapidtrades : u can send a ticket to support but that's most likely what happened
[2016-03-28 12:46:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 25 @ 423.65
[2016-03-28 12:50:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10000 @ 422.92
[2016-03-28 12:52:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1398 @ 422.32
[2016-03-28 13:12:18] rapidtrades : any predictions fellas?
[2016-03-28 13:14:39] nip : eth is going up
[2016-03-28 13:18:45] nip : BitMEX team: maybe you could list the next a50 contract before the current one expires in a few days?
[2016-03-28 15:16:46] BitMEX_Wally : nip: `A50J16` is scheduled to launch tomorrow: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/A50J16
[2016-03-28 15:17:32] nip : great, thanks
[2016-03-28 16:32:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1255 @ 0.02747
[2016-03-28 16:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 92 @ 0.02748
[2016-03-28 16:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 18 @ 0.02748
[2016-03-28 16:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.02759
[2016-03-28 16:33:55] mpkomara : CYA LATER HONK HONK
[2016-03-28 18:02:42] rapidtrades : morans at finex still flying high as a kite
[2016-03-28 18:25:46] viptrader : damn so much rekt on eth
[2016-03-28 19:43:31] dmbtmxdm : anyone from bitmex here?
[2016-03-28 19:43:38] dmbtmxdm : @viptrader, yep
[2016-03-28 19:45:52] BitMEX_Greg : Hi @dmbtmxdm; am I able to help?
[2016-03-28 19:46:43] dmbtmxdm : Hey Greg, I'm just wondering, what will decrease eth spread? Is it that we need more market makers?
[2016-03-28 19:48:16] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah that could decrease the spread
[2016-03-28 19:48:47] BitMEX_Greg : Guess it also depends on how the market makers hedge their risk too and what cost they achieve that at
[2016-03-28 20:55:45] viptrader : so ETH moon or doom?
[2016-03-28 21:07:31] nip : moon
[2016-03-28 21:20:58] mpkomara : ITS UPLIFTING
[2016-03-28 21:21:03] mpkomara : ITS STRATOSPHERIC
[2016-03-28 21:22:24] sleger : mpkomara: cant afford a new keyboard with unbroken caps lock key ?
[2016-03-28 21:23:39] mpkomara : NOPE. TOO BUSY PUTTING MY MONEY INTO MY NEW YACHT, THE SS CONTANGO
[2016-03-28 21:24:54] mpkomara : FINANCED THROUGH LAND LUBBERS SHORTING THE ETHEREUM HONK HONK
[2016-03-28 21:29:41] yerb : yeah whats with the damn caps?
[2016-03-28 21:30:06] yerb : and i feel sorry for ppl dreaming abou tyachts
[2016-03-28 21:32:41] mpkomara : yerb: THEYRE CALLED THE SS ARBITRAGE AND THE SS CONTANGO. THANKS THO HONK HONK
[2016-03-28 21:33:11] yerb : disable caps youre too loud
[2016-03-29 01:06:21] viptrader : eth at 267
[2016-03-29 01:32:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 1 @ 424.68 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-29 01:45:04] fruitdealer : hey, does the excel plugin work, just installed
[2016-03-29 01:45:30] fruitdealer : And it gives "#VALUE!" for Bid/Ask prices
[2016-03-29 01:45:37] fruitdealer : everything else seems fine
[2016-03-29 01:46:04] BitMEX_Arthur : Hmm
[2016-03-29 01:46:12] BitMEX_Arthur : It should work, but I haven't used it in a while
[2016-03-29 01:46:24] BitMEX_Arthur : Did you Addin the excel library for the price functions
[2016-03-29 01:46:52] fruitdealer : yes, I am able to get the instruments
[2016-03-29 01:47:01] BitMEX_Arthur : haha does Hosie know ur trading Bitcoin :smirk:
[2016-03-29 01:47:05] fruitdealer : =BitMexInstrumentsActive()
[2016-03-29 01:47:07] fruitdealer : works
[2016-03-29 01:47:16] BitMEX_Arthur : hmm, can you try and refresh your sheet
[2016-03-29 01:47:20] fruitdealer : =BitMexInstruments("XBT24H")
[2016-03-29 01:47:23] fruitdealer : works
[2016-03-29 01:47:43] fruitdealer : but ... =BitMexAsk("XBT24H", 0) doesn't
[2016-03-29 01:47:57] fruitdealer : been hitting F9 like no 2moro