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[2016-03-19 04:28:14] bitbanker : i think i got it
[2016-03-19 04:28:54] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, buy low, sell high :)
[2016-03-19 04:29:44] bitbanker : ok i understood it i just rote it wrong but thank you very very much and have a nice day bye
[2016-03-19 05:01:56] bitbanker : if i buy the XBT at 407.09 and sell XBT7D 408.23 will i profit 1.14 just to make sure i got everything correct
[2016-03-19 05:03:05] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, and be aware of trading fees for both exchanges, etc.
[2016-03-19 05:03:29] bitbanker : ok well thankz see ya
[2016-03-19 05:09:43] dmbtmxdm : is there any way I can demo bitmex?
[2016-03-19 05:25:22] zanza : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-03-19 06:00:34] vbmithr : You can even use Sierra Chart to demo bitmex _through_ Sierra Chart :)
[2016-03-19 06:25:53] micmix : FCT is not doing well, I'm like a half of the open interest :-)
[2016-03-19 07:56:57] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-03-19 07:57:16] ayy_lmao : rip my username, _ turned me to green
[2016-03-19 08:34:12] stevelim : ETH pump coming soon?
[2016-03-19 08:45:22] uiop : stevelim: "and dump"
[2016-03-19 08:49:52] stevelim : yep, but pump first
[2016-03-19 08:58:25] stevelim : 0.027 might be the last hope for the bears.
[2016-03-19 08:59:49] rapidtrades : micmix: u trading with ur own monies now?
[2016-03-19 09:04:52] micmix : rapidtrades: no, why?
[2016-03-19 09:49:05] rapidtrades : micmix: well goldman pulled out no?
[2016-03-19 09:52:26] micmix : rapidtrades: you mean "my biggest client" that I mentioned? I was never trading with their money, I did lots of dev work for them
[2016-03-19 09:54:07] rapidtrades : oh ok
[2016-03-19 09:54:30] micmix : and they were never present here on BitMEX anyway
[2016-03-19 12:46:14] bitbanker : hi
[2016-03-19 12:48:06] bitbanker : is there a maximum deposit
[2016-03-19 12:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: There are no limits on deposits or withdrawals
[2016-03-19 12:49:38] bitbanker : ok thank you bye
[2016-03-19 15:25:13] rapidtrades : slow Saturday huh
[2016-03-19 15:58:34] Diva : Hi
[2016-03-19 16:03:05] rapidtrades : shalom
[2016-03-19 17:01:15] splash : di diva
[2016-03-19 17:01:19] splash : i mean hi
[2016-03-19 17:44:50] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: u there?
[2016-03-19 18:01:08] tscha : WTF
[2016-03-19 18:01:09] tscha : okcoin
[2016-03-19 18:04:38] habibi : tscha: ?
[2016-03-19 18:05:08] tscha : habibi: okcoincom dropped 7 bucks... prolly freddy fatfinger
[2016-03-19 18:05:29] tscha : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd
[2016-03-19 18:06:57] habibi : ah yea, didnt pay attention to usd version so was kinda confused
[2016-03-19 18:07:40] sleger : only had time to bought 20 below 400 :(
[2016-03-19 18:07:46] sleger : *to buy
[2016-03-19 18:23:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 22 @ 0.02623
[2016-03-19 18:25:31] tscha : sleger: do you know anyone that is in lowest fee tier at finex?
[2016-03-19 18:33:12] sleger : tscha: for taker fees no
[2016-03-19 18:38:08] rapidtrades : who's f*cking with okoin
[2016-03-19 19:42:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 6 @ 0.02552
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02550
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 611 @ 0.02550
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 350 @ 0.02546
[2016-03-19 20:27:21] mpkomara : GOOD AFTERNOON HONK HONK
[2016-03-19 20:27:30] mpkomara : ITS A BEAUTIFUL DAY ABOARD THE SS ARBITRAGE
[2016-03-19 20:50:09] Mangalica : i always forget that SS means steam ship
[2016-03-19 21:07:49] j8 : i thought it was starship
[2016-03-19 21:08:51] tscha : schutzstaffel arbitrage certainly makes no sense
[2016-03-19 21:35:44] bitbanker : is the settlement fee come the profit of a trade
[2016-03-19 21:37:02] tscha : the settlement fee is what goes into arthur's pocket and ends up in some HK stripclub
[2016-03-19 21:40:29] sleger : and it's twice the average trade fee fyi
[2016-03-19 21:41:23] bitbanker : i'm noe for sure what that is
[2016-03-19 21:41:29] bitbanker : not
[2016-03-19 21:41:55] sleger : what is ?
[2016-03-19 21:42:08] bitbanker : setllement fee
[2016-03-19 21:42:34] sleger : you're the one who talked about it first
[2016-03-19 21:43:12] habibi : btw insurance fund ath?
[2016-03-19 21:45:15] sleger : and somehow after months of operation there was only 5btc when reporting started
[2016-03-19 21:46:13] rapidtrades : they said the fund is used all the time
[2016-03-19 21:46:23] rapidtrades : not onlly to cover dpe
[2016-03-19 21:47:02] habibi : rapidtrades: for what beside dpe?
[2016-03-19 21:47:24] rapidtrades : i assume movinng the order closer to the market idk
[2016-03-19 21:47:56] bitbanker : if your trade was in proit does the settlement fee come from that profit that has been made
[2016-03-19 21:50:24] sleger : bitbanker: do you think if the trade is a loser they charge no fee ? no it comes out of your account
[2016-03-19 21:50:54] bitbanker : ok thank you a lot sleger
[2016-03-19 21:52:17] Mangalica : woe is me, i closed my short too early
[2016-03-19 21:53:01] habibi : anyone heard of btcbox?
[2016-03-19 21:53:14] Mangalica : no
[2016-03-19 21:54:05] Mangalica : they have the highest BTC volume, according to coinmarketcap
[2016-03-19 21:54:15] Mangalica : which i find really surprising
[2016-03-19 21:54:24] habibi : yep, thats what i am concerned about
[2016-03-19 21:56:19] bitbanker : sleger if i made a 1.00 of a trading one contract would 5% come from my depsit for the trade or from my profit
[2016-03-19 21:57:04] bitbanker : this is my first time trading
[2016-03-19 21:57:13] bitbanker : thank you
[2016-03-19 21:57:13] habibi : bitbanker: read https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-03-19 21:57:20] habibi : u welcome :]
[2016-03-19 21:58:51] bitbanker : one xbt is one satoshit right
[2016-03-19 21:59:54] habibi : read faq please or u will loose money faster then after reading
[2016-03-19 22:00:43] sleger : a satoshit ? is that a shit from satoshi ?
[2016-03-19 22:01:28] bitbanker : ryping error
[2016-03-19 22:01:31] bitbanker : satoshi
[2016-03-19 22:01:38] bitbanker : typing
[2016-03-19 22:04:43] rapidtrades : bitbanker: no 1xbt is 1 btc
[2016-03-19 22:05:11] rapidtrades : use 1 contract to test the platform
[2016-03-19 22:05:30] rapidtrades : there's also a test page but i forgot
[2016-03-19 22:06:50] bitbanker : thank you rapidtrades
[2016-03-19 22:06:56] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: The settlement fee of 0.05% (not 5%) is charged on open positions that are held until expiry
[2016-03-19 22:08:16] BitMEX_Wally : 1 XBT = 1 Bitcoin = 100,000,000 Satoshi
[2016-03-19 22:08:46] BitMEX_Wally : 1 Satoshi = 0.00000001 Bitcoin
[2016-03-19 22:22:13] rapidtrades : anyone taken a position yet?
[2016-03-19 23:06:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.02554
[2016-03-19 23:23:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 11 @ 407.22
[2016-03-19 23:48:16] viptrader : so "cross" allow you to use all your balance, and at the same time it's 25x leverage?
[2016-03-19 23:59:47] j8 : viptrader: the effective leverage will depend on the size of your position relative to your balance. up to 25x if you're talking about eth
[2016-03-20 00:00:50] viptrader : let's say i use 20% of my balance and choose "Cross"
[2016-03-20 00:00:59] viptrader : then i will be on 25x leverage? @j8
[2016-03-20 00:01:55] j8 : viptrader: the initial margin that's held for the position is still 4% or 1/25th of the position value
[2016-03-20 00:02:48] viptrader : i didnt understand it
[2016-03-20 00:03:20] viptrader : j8: what do u mean
[2016-03-20 00:03:29] j8 : ok so the simple way to know your leverage is `position value / margin`
[2016-03-20 00:03:34] habibi : u have 10 btc on ur wallet here, u need to go with order valued at 2.50 btc to get 25x on cross
[2016-03-20 00:04:40] j8 : habibi: 250 btc?
[2016-03-20 00:05:34] habibi : j8: just an example :P
[2016-03-20 00:06:50] j8 : 2.50 is this some european notation for 250
[2016-03-20 00:08:41] habibi : nah, but 250 is correct
[2016-03-20 00:11:37] j8 : viptrader: if you used 20% of your margin and it's a 25x instrument then you're around 5x. because it only holds 1/25th
[2016-03-20 00:15:01] j8 : you can also look at the position notional Value in XBT in the table. not the margin but the value. if it's eth then you have to mouseover to see it in xbt
[2016-03-20 05:14:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.02548
[2016-03-20 06:35:19] subjective : If I buy ETH7D 0.025, so it settles in 7 days right?
[2016-03-20 06:36:28] subjective : I am new to this thing, if ETH price is 0.03 in 7 days, then my profit would be 0.03-0.25 right?
[2016-03-20 06:37:23] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: Correct
[2016-03-20 06:38:19] subjective : Can I sell the contract I hold before it settles?
[2016-03-20 06:38:55] BitMEX_Wally : Of course
[2016-03-20 06:39:32] subjective : I see, profit/loss gets realised in 7 days. Um, this is interesting
[2016-03-20 06:40:28] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, although every 8 hours we unlock 50% of realised profit so it can be withdrawn or re-leveraged
[2016-03-20 06:40:28] subjective : When I zoom in the ETH7D order book, I can't seem to scroll down. is there a url to see the depth?
[2016-03-20 06:41:22] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh, that looks like a bug
[2016-03-20 06:42:00] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks for spotting that, we will fix
[2016-03-20 06:42:23] BitMEX_Wally : In the meantime you can use order book grouping to reduce the number of levels
[2016-03-20 06:42:30] BitMEX_Wally : Click the cog icon
[2016-03-20 06:42:59] subjective : I worked that out, groupping, then zoom
[2016-03-20 06:48:27] subjective : What happen to pending orders that is never match/executed? Does it charge any fee?
[2016-03-20 06:48:48] BitMEX_Wally : No
[2016-03-20 06:48:57] BitMEX_Wally : Fees are on executed trades
[2016-03-20 06:50:28] subjective : Are there any info to use BitMEX effectively to hedge or protect current position on other exchanges?
[2016-03-20 07:00:19] BitMEX_Wally : If you're long 10 ETH on an exchange then sell 10 ETH on BitMEX
[2016-03-20 07:01:03] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson4
[2016-03-20 07:01:38] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/bitmex-for-commercial-hedgers/
[2016-03-20 07:02:53] subjective : Nice one,
[2016-03-20 07:05:07] subjective : There were a screen that calculate the liquidation price.. it doesn't show up anymore
[2016-03-20 07:11:52] subjective : Do u get liquidated all in one go when it hits the price? or it depends on order book
[2016-03-20 07:23:20] BitMEX_Arthur : subjective: Except for the Bitcoin hedging contracts, your entire position is taken over all at once when your liquidation price is reached
[2016-03-20 07:23:35] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-03-20 07:23:47] BitMEX_Arthur : Read that for more info about the liquidation process
[2016-03-20 07:55:06] BitMEX_Wally : subjective: When you click Buy or Sell an order confirmation box pops up with the Est. Liquidation Price
[2016-03-20 07:55:30] BitMEX_Wally : If you have disabled the Confirmation Dialog you can enable it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-03-20 09:54:44] rapidtrades : guten tag
[2016-03-20 11:12:45] splash : hello
[2016-03-20 11:13:04] splash : what would u do with ur time, if u had enough money to not care about money?
[2016-03-20 11:41:39] ayy_lmao : i would spend time not caring about money
[2016-03-20 12:09:27] ayy_lmao : trollface.jpg
[2016-03-20 13:30:17] ayy_lmao : y is exhcange suspended
[2016-03-20 13:30:20] ayy_lmao : cmon
[2016-03-20 13:30:25] ayy_lmao : bitcoin about to move 2
[2016-03-20 13:30:49] BitMEX_Arthur : We are investigating now, please bear with us
[2016-03-20 13:31:01] ayy_lmao : kk
[2016-03-20 13:33:36] BitMEX_Wally : We are back online
[2016-03-20 13:33:47] ayy_lmao : nice
[2016-03-20 13:34:00] BitMEX_Wally : A withdrawal transaction got dropped from the mempool and then confirmed which upset an internal audit
[2016-03-20 13:39:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 148 @ 0.02464
[2016-03-20 13:39:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 257 @ 0.02451
[2016-03-20 13:40:29] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry for the inconvenience, we err on the side of extreme caution whenever Other People's Money is involved
[2016-03-20 13:40:56] habibi : all good BitMEX_Wally?
[2016-03-20 13:41:11] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2016-03-20 13:42:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02430
[2016-03-20 13:44:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 760 @ 0.02417
[2016-03-20 13:50:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 170 @ 0.02447
[2016-03-20 14:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.00379 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-20 14:10:44] rapidtrades : bitcoin finally benefiting from shitcoin's demise
[2016-03-20 14:27:18] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: eth still holding up stronly
[2016-03-20 14:27:44] arbitrage001 : which surprise me
[2016-03-20 14:29:03] rapidtrades : stupid finex gave it some ligitimacy
[2016-03-20 14:32:13] Mangalica : there are still plenty of newly-rich people and top-buying bagholders waiting to cash out of ETH imo
[2016-03-20 14:33:15] rapidtrades : no doubt...$8 is too high
[2016-03-20 14:33:45] rapidtrades : it's close to $10...way too high
[2016-03-20 14:33:46] Mangalica : i'm not saying we're going to 0.01, but we have probably seen the high for this year (unless BTC collapses)
[2016-03-20 14:55:11] rapidtrades : Mangalica: I'm not saying you're right, but you're probably right
[2016-03-20 15:12:52] arbitrage001 : alt coin can go up higher than anyone can expect
[2016-03-20 15:13:19] arbitrage001 : hence trading alt coin is generally a bad idea. long oor short
[2016-03-20 15:15:06] arbitrage001 : and last time finex added dash coin. it capitulate from 10 usd to less than 3 usd in a few months
[2016-03-20 16:10:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 504 @ 0.02423
[2016-03-20 16:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02363
[2016-03-20 17:09:40] BTCVIX : BitMEX_Wally: yeah, when you have OPM it comes with more responsibilities and a higher bar of standards for the company/persons involved -- glad your system was able to detect this so attention to be called and taken care of swiftly. 6minutes, nice job !!
[2016-03-20 18:20:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.02313
[2016-03-20 18:25:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 916 @ 411.66
[2016-03-20 18:49:00] rapidtrades : shalom fellas
[2016-03-20 20:04:55] BitMEX_Sam : Afternoon
[2016-03-20 20:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02447
[2016-03-20 23:47:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02517 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-21 01:38:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 966 @ 0.02524
[2016-03-21 02:05:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 806 @ 408.63
[2016-03-21 02:15:00] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 230 @ 408.12
[2016-03-21 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 5290 @ 408.39
[2016-03-21 03:28:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02581
[2016-03-21 03:28:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.02574
[2016-03-21 07:52:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02695
[2016-03-21 09:19:55] Rasign : how work is index, bitfinex 408 ?
[2016-03-21 09:20:36] Rasign : when is was at 408.36, bitmex was at 408.00
[2016-03-21 09:23:04] Teddy76 : based on TradeBlock : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2016-03-21 09:24:02] Rasign : Teddy76: and its an average?
[2016-03-21 09:25:08] Teddy76 : more or less, did you read link?
[2016-03-21 09:25:40] Teddy76 : all is explained under "XBX Information"
[2016-03-21 09:26:14] Rasign : ok i read it
[2016-03-21 09:26:18] Teddy76 : i will not explain better :D
[2016-03-21 09:26:40] Rasign : but in don't understand why in bitmex the index is 408.27 and on tradeblock its 408.07
[2016-03-21 09:27:07] Teddy76 : because you con't compare right data
[2016-03-21 09:27:14] Teddy76 : 408.27 is FairPrice
[2016-03-21 09:27:15] Rasign : ok
[2016-03-21 09:27:27] Teddy76 : 408.07 is TradeBlock Index
[2016-03-21 09:27:28] Rasign : i'm not sure bro
[2016-03-21 09:27:37] Rasign : everything is falling
[2016-03-21 09:27:39] Teddy76 : two different data
[2016-03-21 09:27:41] Rasign : and bitmex yp
[2016-03-21 09:27:42] Rasign : up
[2016-03-21 09:28:15] Teddy76 : are you familiar with future trading?
[2016-03-21 09:28:34] Rasign : yes not with index i'm trading on okcoin
[2016-03-21 09:28:48] Rasign : on other website^^
[2016-03-21 09:28:55] Teddy76 : have a look here : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-03-21 09:29:11] Teddy76 : for start @Bitmex, it's a must read
[2016-03-21 09:29:37] rapidtrades : Rasign: fair price is only used for margin calls, we settle on index
[2016-03-21 09:30:33] Rasign : ok man
[2016-03-21 09:40:31] Bauer : Morning!
[2016-03-21 09:50:45] Bauer : Has there been delays with deposits today?
[2016-03-21 09:52:57] Bauer : Weird thing happened to me.. My deposit was pending and now its missing all together in the deposit list.. (??)
[2016-03-21 09:55:33] Bauer : Seems that it came through finally, was a bit worried that ill miss some BTC movement =D
[2016-03-21 10:03:02] BitMEX_Wally : Bauer: Pending deposits and appear and disappear depending on the mempool of Bitcoin nodes
[2016-03-21 10:03:19] BitMEX_Wally : If a node gets rebooted then the tx might disappear and reappear
[2016-03-21 10:04:14] BitMEX_Wally : Once it gets a block confirmation then the deposit will be marked as completed and won't disappear :)
[2016-03-21 10:05:45] Bauer : BitMEX_Wally: Oh! Thanks for the info =) Good to know in case that happens in the future. New here so kinda getting used to trading here
[2016-03-21 10:06:24] BitMEX_Wally : Welcome to BitMEX, let us know if you have any questions, we're happy to help
[2016-03-21 10:07:39] Bauer : BitMEX_Wally: Sure thing and again, thanks for the info =)
[2016-03-21 11:14:35] Rasign : Do you need to sell before wipe or not ?
[2016-03-21 11:16:50] BitMEX_Wally : Rasign: If you have an open position at expiry it will be closed out at the settlement price
[2016-03-21 11:17:04] BitMEX_Wally : So no need to close beforehand
[2016-03-21 11:17:31] Rasign : ok thx :D
[2016-03-21 12:03:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: hey, when i maximize the orderbook i can't scroll down
[2016-03-21 12:08:20] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Sam is working on a fix
[2016-03-21 12:10:46] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2016-03-21 12:27:27] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: i have a suggestion
[2016-03-21 12:28:54] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: on the trade history pahe it would be nice if we had an account balance chart, with an optional reset button
[2016-03-21 12:29:23] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: i was thinking something like this http://imgur.com/OieQF88
[2016-03-21 16:33:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.02677
[2016-03-21 16:33:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 85 @ 0.02678
[2016-03-21 17:04:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 834 @ 0.02748
[2016-03-21 17:04:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 167 @ 0.02773
[2016-03-21 17:10:29] arbitrage001 : seem like both long or short on eth get slaughtered at some point
[2016-03-21 17:12:40] ayy_lmao : eth rekking short
[2016-03-21 17:16:39] Mangalica : yeah
[2016-03-21 17:17:22] Mangalica : knew something was up when they flashed 2.5 mill USD worth of bids yesterday
[2016-03-21 17:18:56] Mangalica : at this point this is less "organic" than it might seem like, so i'm prepared to see huge red candles breaking technically sound structures at any point, even if it does go above 0.03
[2016-03-21 17:20:23] Mangalica : or if they are smart that will only be the finale
[2016-03-21 18:25:52] rapidtrades : it's so boooooring man
[2016-03-21 18:30:33] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, slow markets last few days.
[2016-03-21 18:38:38] rapidtrades : FEW? if u went into a coma on March 6th and u happened to have either short or a long, u would be completely fine
[2016-03-21 18:39:27] Mangalica : except for mETH
[2016-03-21 18:39:45] Mangalica : (and some other shitcoins)
[2016-03-21 18:40:10] rapidtrades : haven't traded any alts this year
[2016-03-21 18:40:38] rapidtrades : i'll prolly short eth at some point tho
[2016-03-21 18:44:55] rapidtrades : market cap 927mil, utter garbage
[2016-03-21 19:01:04] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: you there?
[2016-03-21 19:02:27] BitMEX_Sam : yerb: Yep
[2016-03-21 19:02:29] BitMEX_Sam : What's up?
[2016-03-21 19:02:50] yerb : can you please check y chat entry at 13:27
[2016-03-21 19:03:18] BitMEX_Sam : What time zone
[2016-03-21 19:03:24] BitMEX_Sam : And what would you like me to check about it?
[2016-03-21 19:03:25] yerb : oh
[2016-03-21 19:03:28] yerb : never mind
[2016-03-21 19:03:37] yerb : anyway i have a suggestion
[2016-03-21 19:04:16] yerb : on trade history page it would be nice to have acc balance chart
[2016-03-21 19:04:40] yerb : something like this http://imgur.com/OieQF88
[2016-03-21 19:05:27] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah - something like that is in our issue tracker
[2016-03-21 19:05:32] BitMEX_Sam : I'll update you if something comes through
[2016-03-21 19:05:50] yerb : so we can track our trading progress
[2016-03-21 19:06:33] yerb : i would add an optional reset button if we weant to track trades from a certain point on
[2016-03-21 19:35:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: I think a per trade PnL should be higher on the list
[2016-03-21 19:36:37] rapidtrades : it's a nightmare to track manually right now, have to use calculator to see how much i made/lost
[2016-03-21 21:57:39] dmbtmxdm : Let's say my available funds are 1XBT, I can make a trade with an order value of 3XBT, is this correct?
[2016-03-21 21:58:06] thehawthorne : 100 XBT max
[2016-03-21 21:58:36] dmbtmxdm : But, what I understood from initial margin, is that it must be 30% of the size of the position
[2016-03-21 21:58:51] dmbtmxdm : from the references under the help tab
[2016-03-21 22:00:42] thehawthorne : "Assuming 30% initial margin and 20% maintenance margin"
[2016-03-21 22:00:48] thehawthorne : is the sentence you refer to
[2016-03-21 22:01:03] thehawthorne : assuming does not mean 30% are the given initial margin
[2016-03-21 22:06:24] sleger : anyways it's not necessarily 100xbt max it depends what he wants to trade
[2016-03-21 22:06:45] sleger : you forgot to mention "assuming XBT24H"
[2016-03-21 22:16:00] dmbtmxdm : Ok, good, It's as I expected then.
[2016-03-21 22:22:37] ayy_lmao : am I the only one getting ridiculous contract conversions on the ethereum contract? 10 contracts show up as 4000 btc for me...
[2016-03-21 22:23:09] BitMEX_Sam : ayy_lmao: Check the price you have in the Limit box
[2016-03-21 22:23:23] ayy_lmao : its set to market
[2016-03-21 22:23:38] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, then the underlying price is not correctly being set
[2016-03-21 22:23:43] BitMEX_Sam : Just a display bug, I'll address it immediately
[2016-03-21 22:23:55] ayy_lmao : alright good to know
[2016-03-21 22:23:55] BitMEX_Sam : It will still trigger as a basic market order, nothing to worry about
[2016-03-21 22:28:01] ayy_lmao : looks like it takes the average price from the XBT contract and applies it to eth
[2016-03-21 22:28:12] BitMEX_Sam : Yep - just for display calculations
[2016-03-21 22:28:18] BitMEX_Sam : I have a fix that will go live in just a few minutes
[2016-03-21 22:37:10] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Please refresh your browser
[2016-03-21 22:37:46] ayy_lmao : nice
[2016-03-21 23:06:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.02896
[2016-03-21 23:06:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.02892
[2016-03-21 23:10:10] dmbtmxdm : 1 eth contract order value is 411xbt?
[2016-03-21 23:12:04] sleger : yes its for smaller players
[2016-03-21 23:12:51] habibi : are there any guys that plays under 1000 contracts = 411k xbtc here?
[2016-03-21 23:13:51] dmbtmxdm : that order value is bugged
[2016-03-21 23:18:06] sleger : works fine for me
[2016-03-21 23:18:26] dmbtmxdm : what does it say for you on the eth7d for 1 contract order value?
[2016-03-21 23:19:33] ayy_lmao : if its still bugged for you, you may need to refresh the page
[2016-03-21 23:19:49] dmbtmxdm : that worked
[2016-03-21 23:19:55] ayy_lmao : 1 contract is 0.029 for me
[2016-03-21 23:20:03] dmbtmxdm : .0290xbt per contract eth7d now.
[2016-03-21 23:21:19] sleger : maybe it's because you had forgotten a "u" in the second place of your username ?
[2016-03-21 23:21:31] rapidtrades : why do u guys only show up at night?
[2016-03-21 23:22:05] rapidtrades : u have day jobs like a bunch of fairies?
[2016-03-21 23:22:24] sleger : yes, and a life too ;)
[2016-03-21 23:23:49] Mangalica : whoa
[2016-03-21 23:25:04] Mangalica : i'll get one of those one of these years
[2016-03-21 23:28:34] laisee : sold 1 contract. woot!
[2016-03-21 23:29:36] laisee : trade4fun & $$
[2016-03-21 23:29:37] Mangalica : 1 contract of what?
[2016-03-21 23:45:20] dmbtmxdm : cost per eth contract is .0012xbt? pretty high no?
[2016-03-21 23:46:26] habibi : whaat?
[2016-03-21 23:47:31] dmbtmxdm : click on etherium every friday 25x
[2016-03-21 23:47:40] dmbtmxdm : put 1 as quantity and look at the cost
[2016-03-21 23:48:35] BitMEX_Sam : Seems normal -
[2016-03-21 23:48:47] BitMEX_Sam : Order value should be around 0.028 XBT
[2016-03-21 23:49:24] BitMEX_Sam : divide by 25 and you get roughly 0.0012 XBT
[2016-03-21 23:49:42] habibi : dmbtmxdm: but actually funny check on ur side with 1 contact how much it will cost u
[2016-03-21 23:49:45] dmbtmxdm : I see how it work s now, thank you
[2016-03-21 23:49:53] habibi : ah nvm then lol
[2016-03-21 23:50:05] BitMEX_Sam : So the 'Cost' line item shows how much margin it will actually deduct from your balance
[2016-03-21 23:50:12] BitMEX_Sam : That not only includes leverage, but your current position as well
[2016-03-21 23:50:21] BitMEX_Sam : e.g. if you're long 100 cont and place a sell for 100 cont, your cost is `0`
[2016-03-21 23:57:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4 @ 0.02871 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-22 00:12:44] rapidtrades : I'm so bored i may start learning python
[2016-03-22 00:27:09] dmbtmxdm : any project in mind?
[2016-03-22 00:33:26] rapidtrades : yeah hello world
[2016-03-22 00:33:36] dmbtmxdm : hello rapidtrades
[2016-03-22 01:26:55] vbmithr : Hey
[2016-03-22 01:27:03] vbmithr : Morning/Afternoon/whatever
[2016-03-22 01:27:16] vbmithr : rapidtrades: :)
[2016-03-22 01:27:22] vbmithr : (for the yeah hello world)
[2016-03-22 01:27:41] vbmithr : I'm looking for beta testers for my BitMEX Sierra Chart adapters
[2016-03-22 01:27:49] vbmithr : Since I think I finally reached beta :p
[2016-03-22 01:27:54] vbmithr : Anybody interested?
[2016-03-22 01:28:08] vbmithr : Basically, you can trade on BitMEX (testnet and mainnet) using Sierra Chart instead of the Web API.
[2016-03-22 01:28:44] vbmithr : Checkout sierrachart.com (trading software), and bitsouk.com (the website for my adapter).
[2016-03-22 02:25:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6124 @ 413.10
[2016-03-22 02:25:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 263 @ 413.20
[2016-03-22 02:26:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 4000 @ 413.02
[2016-03-22 02:32:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT7D`: Buy 500 @ 414.27
[2016-03-22 03:04:41] when30 : vbmithr: Hi
[2016-03-22 03:07:53] vbmithr : when30: hi.
[2016-03-22 03:08:16] vbmithr : Have to leave now. If you just sent me the invite for bitsouk I accepted :)
[2016-03-22 03:08:42] vbmithr : See you.
[2016-03-22 03:29:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 17 @ 0.02788
[2016-03-22 03:36:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 100 @ 527.74
[2016-03-22 03:43:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3863 @ 0.02851
[2016-03-22 04:00:36] nip : anyone from bitmex here?
[2016-03-22 04:19:43] BitMEX_Wally : nip: Got your support ticket, will get back to you
[2016-03-22 04:38:39] mpkomara : HONK HONK
[2016-03-22 05:04:42] BitMEX_Wally : nip: I have replied
[2016-03-22 05:20:14] nip : BitMEX_Wally: I have replied.
[2016-03-22 06:06:26] isaiasdjesus : Can somebody help me? where are the buy/sell rate of bitcon here in BitMEX?
[2016-03-22 06:06:40] isaiasdjesus : How do I see that?
[2016-03-22 06:19:29] BitMEX_Wally : isaiasdjesus: The Orderbook widget
[2016-03-22 06:19:56] BitMEX_Wally : The current best bid for XBT24H is 415.62 and the best offer is 415.98
[2016-03-22 06:32:57] dmbtmxdm : if I am in a long position and I create a close limit order at price 430, it will only execute when the price hits 430, is this correct?
[2016-03-22 06:35:49] BitMEX_Wally : dmbtmxdm: Correct
[2016-03-22 06:36:09] BitMEX_Wally : It will only execute at a price of 430 or better (i.e higher)
[2016-03-22 06:37:56] isaiasdjesus : this 430 is un USD?
[2016-03-22 06:38:24] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBT24H
[2016-03-22 06:39:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, XBT24H is a future on the Bitcoin vs USD price
[2016-03-22 06:39:59] isaiasdjesus : Great, thanks. Is there any way to convert this into Mexican currency?
[2016-03-22 06:40:21] isaiasdjesus : Right here in Bitmex
[2016-03-22 06:40:38] BitMEX_Wally : No, we only deal with Bitcoin, no other currencies
[2016-03-22 06:40:45] BitMEX_Wally : https://mexbt.com/en/
[2016-03-22 06:40:56] BitMEX_Wally : meXBT are a Mexican exchange
[2016-03-22 06:41:30] BitMEX_Wally : https://bitso.com/?l=en
[2016-03-22 06:41:34] BitMEX_Wally : So are Bitso
[2016-03-22 06:42:55] isaiasdjesus : thanks a lot
[2016-03-22 07:31:45] btcquant : Hi - new here, have a few questions about contracts and pricing.
[2016-03-22 07:34:28] BitMEX_Arthur : btcquant: hi how can I help?
[2016-03-22 07:35:07] btcquant : Ha, just sent you text.
[2016-03-22 07:35:50] BitMEX_Arthur : You mean a support request?
[2016-03-22 07:37:10] btcquant : Still trying to understand costs, etc. For example, If I want to short 10 BTC, that's easy enough, but I don't understand the cost: 0.7316 and the order value of 2.4067.
[2016-03-22 07:37:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Cost refers to how much margin you will need to post against the order
[2016-03-22 07:38:20] btcquant : Got it - so not really an "expense", just margin requirement?
[2016-03-22 07:38:31] BitMEX_Arthur : yes
[2016-03-22 07:38:56] btcquant : Great, then what is "Order Value"?
[2016-03-22 07:39:12] BitMEX_Arthur : The notional value in Bitcoin of your order
[2016-03-22 07:40:05] btcquant : Got it - makes sense.
[2016-03-22 07:41:19] btcquant : Just so that I'm clear - to short 50 contracts of XBU, system shows Cost of 3.6582 XBT. So, does that mean I need 2.6582 Bitcoin in my account?
[2016-03-22 07:42:08] btcquant : So, that's a margin requirement of 30% ??
[2016-03-22 07:44:39] BitMEX_Arthur : XBU contracts are used for hedging, and there is no profit adjustment so the leverage is much lower
[2016-03-22 07:46:10] btcquant : 50 XBU = $5000. 3.6582 XBT is around $1500. 1500/5000 = 0.3
[2016-03-22 07:46:17] btcquant : Isn't that margin requirement of 30%??
[2016-03-22 07:48:51] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes initial margin is 30% of the value of the position
[2016-03-22 07:49:54] btcquant : OK, Thank You
[2016-03-22 13:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 3 @ 0.02832 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-22 13:51:26] j8 : a bit inconsistent that `XBU7D` is listed as 5x leverage when that's based on the maintenance margin.
[2016-03-22 14:12:20] okaycn : 管理员在吗？爆仓价格根据什么计算的？
[2016-03-22 14:12:32] okaycn : 爆仓价格根据成交价格计算，还是根据现货市场价格计算？
[2016-03-22 14:13:52] BitMEX_Wally : okaycn: Liquidations are triggered based on spot market prices (现货市场)
[2016-03-22 14:14:18] okaycn : 怎么发送不出文字
[2016-03-22 14:16:12] BitMEX_Wally : TradeBlock XBX index: https://tradeblock.com/markets/index
[2016-03-22 14:19:21] sleger : 员->仓
[2016-03-22 14:19:26] sleger : Does that mean "go home" ?
[2016-03-22 14:20:18] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: 爆仓 means position liquidation
[2016-03-22 14:20:25] BitMEX_Wally : Literally "position explosion"
[2016-03-22 14:20:47] sleger : really looked like some dude and a home though
[2016-03-22 14:21:47] BitMEX_Wally : You'll like the character for prisoner then, it is literally a person in a box: 囚
[2016-03-22 14:23:31] sleger : 员->仓 = 囚 I'm fluent !
[2016-03-22 14:41:10] cengel : @BitMEX_Wally Interesting, that explains why OKCoin API uses future_explosive for liquidations https://www.okcoin.com/about/rest_api.do
[2016-03-22 14:44:12] BitMEX_Sam : Also explains this url
[2016-03-22 14:44:25] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.0kcoin.com/future/blastingRecord.do
[2016-03-22 14:44:44] BitMEX_Sam : need to fix the autoreplacer not to mangle urls, our bad on that
[2016-03-22 14:48:31] cengel : I asked Arthur this the other day but I'm going to throw it out here in chat: anyone interested in a return of BVOL contracts?
[2016-03-22 14:50:23] cengel : There are many more users now than when it was last being traded, the chance of success is likely higher. Any traders here interested?
[2016-03-22 14:51:07] cengel : @j8 @ksinvest wheres the old BVOL crew?
[2016-03-22 14:51:45] cengel : All five of us who were trading it LOL
[2016-03-22 14:51:50] j8 : i would love if it got a reboot
[2016-03-22 14:55:10] j8 : although, there are some issues with it as it was, it's very sensitive to the particular index and XBX would be pretty bad
[2016-03-22 14:55:19] cengel : Same, I could dust off that old Spreadsheet tool I was using to model it
[2016-03-22 14:56:57] cengel : We used to play a game where BitMEX_Wally and others would put their estimate of BVOL24H settlement 1-2 hours out using different models
[2016-03-22 14:59:54] j8 : i was calculating a bunch of estimates live before the next 5 minute tick and swiped up a lot of good longs that way. usually almost all the volatility would be in one or two 5 minute candles
[2016-03-22 15:00:43] cengel : @j8 and wasn't it you who was buying up BVOL24H and BVOL7D offers with me like crazy last summer on the Bitfinex flash crash?
[2016-03-22 15:01:22] j8 : i also had a whole thing worked out for arbing `BVOL24H` and `BVOL7D`. and yeah i made like 6 btc on bvol that day ;)
[2016-03-22 15:01:38] cengel : Spot on mate
[2016-03-22 15:03:58] j8 : i think even better than reviving bvol would be getting options going
[2016-03-22 15:34:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 75 @ 0.02756
[2016-03-22 15:48:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02725
[2016-03-22 15:53:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1052 @ 0.02711
[2016-03-22 15:57:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 12 @ 0.02674
[2016-03-22 15:59:50] elmorte : quick question, any US issued virtual debit cards that use bitcoin? Wanna set up some Hulu action for the family
[2016-03-22 16:00:09] elmorte : j8: +1 for options
[2016-03-22 16:33:08] Lel : Get ready to Michael down your Vincents
[2016-03-22 16:38:49] rapidtrades : +1 options
[2016-03-22 16:54:06] j8 : i guess the question is, how do you set it up with fixed liability for sellers... i imagine a DPE-like system would be pretty bad for volatility products
[2016-03-22 16:56:12] sleger : you can make it without leverage
[2016-03-22 16:56:35] BitMEX_Wally : We could do covered options
[2016-03-22 16:56:43] BitMEX_Wally : So the option expires into a position in a DPE future
[2016-03-22 16:57:55] sleger : i dont think options would work anyways, too many products not enough participants
[2016-03-22 16:58:16] sleger : if bvol doesnt work then options would be worse by a factor of 100x
[2016-03-22 16:59:13] sleger : there was one exchange cant remember the name who put calls and puts multiple strikes and a few maturities, they even got one market maker who made ok prices for even large size and that didnt work
[2016-03-22 17:01:29] arbitrage001 : hard to estimate premium on volatility and option
[2016-03-22 17:01:39] sleger : atlas ats
[2016-03-22 17:01:48] arbitrage001 : market maker will get slaugetred
[2016-03-22 17:03:31] sleger : arbitrage001: you cant know that it depends on the market maker
[2016-03-22 17:05:09] j8 : i guess it's partly hard because there's no market. gotta start somewhere. i'm sure a lot of traders want it, but maybe bitcoin's not ready for it
[2016-03-22 17:25:33] tscha : I don't think there is a market for options. However, still a better idea than assuming traders would get into bitcoin just to trade a50
[2016-03-22 17:29:53] Mangalica : selling covered calls if the premium is ridiculous would be one way to kickstart the market
[2016-03-22 17:32:54] Mangalica : maybe just wishful thinking on my part if most of the volume is off chasing shitcoins on leverage
[2016-03-22 19:42:06] degone : hi
[2016-03-22 19:44:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.02732
[2016-03-22 19:44:48] BitMEX_Sam : Hi degone
[2016-03-22 19:46:06] degone : BitMEX_Sam: Hi, I have funny question: how to close a trade ?
[2016-03-22 19:46:12] degone : ;-)
[2016-03-22 19:46:23] BitMEX_Sam : You simply submit an order for the opposite amount
[2016-03-22 19:46:29] BitMEX_Sam : Say you've bought 10 contracts - to close, sell them
[2016-03-22 19:46:29] degone : aa, ok, thx
[2016-03-22 19:47:40] degone : And Unrealised PNL is showing current possibilty at market prices, yes?
[2016-03-22 19:47:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-03-22 19:47:58] BitMEX_Sam : It's based on the underlying index price
[2016-03-22 19:47:59] degone : ok, thanks!
[2016-03-22 19:48:23] BitMEX_Sam : Note that is sometimes slightly different than best bid/offer
[2016-03-22 19:49:11] degone : ok
[2016-03-22 19:49:17] degone : understood
[2016-03-22 19:50:28] rapidtrades : where's that guy that bought 1/3 of open interest and whined about slippage?
[2016-03-22 19:51:05] rapidtrades : anyone remember his name?
[2016-03-22 20:33:23] habibi : eth guy? dont remember i bet it was one way trip to bitmex of his bitcoins
[2016-03-22 20:34:51] rapidtrades : yeah ''the eth guy''
[2016-03-22 21:12:26] Skuffone : How do I change leverage on mobile?
[2016-03-22 21:19:04] Skuffone : Don't worry
[2016-03-22 21:41:20] rapidtrades : ok i was worried there for a bit
[2016-03-22 22:17:30] micmix : BVOL was interesting for a while but then main MM stopped quoting and it died. If they can't convince anyone to provide enough liquidity for BVOL it's not going to work
[2016-03-22 22:31:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.00425
[2016-03-22 22:32:07] rapidtrades : micmix: put it on and we'll see
[2016-03-22 22:36:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.00429
[2016-03-23 00:56:50] JianJolly : hi fellas!
[2016-03-23 00:57:14] JianJolly : i want to start a crypto-fund
[2016-03-23 00:57:26] JianJolly : anyone want to get partnerred?
[2016-03-23 00:59:39] habibi : hey, no
[2016-03-23 01:43:23] sleger : JianJolly: yes please
[2016-03-23 01:43:40] sleger : can you remove from your chatlist for 100 years please ?
[2016-03-23 01:50:45] rapidtrades : what's a ''crypto-fund''
[2016-03-23 02:18:24] GurungBoi : whoa noone wants to buy 100x eh
[2016-03-23 02:18:42] GurungBoi : prices lower than market price
[2016-03-23 03:30:27] vbmithr : 23 twitter users tweet about bitmex
[2016-03-23 03:30:34] vbmithr : That's about it
[2016-03-23 05:34:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 764 @ 0.02880
[2016-03-23 07:19:08] splash : JianJolly: a crypto fund? what is that? like a contract on ethereal?
[2016-03-23 07:38:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.02821
[2016-03-23 09:23:24] Kalman : nice edge for the MM 0.0288 vs 0.02821
[2016-03-23 09:49:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 5 @ 417.90
[2016-03-23 10:30:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 150 @ 416.26
[2016-03-23 10:32:58] jung1 : morning
[2016-03-23 10:34:54] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: any chance to add LISK futures?
[2016-03-23 10:54:27] rapidtrades : no chance :)
[2016-03-23 11:03:50] jung1 : maybe a little
[2016-03-23 11:04:35] jung1 : 3rd biggest cryptocurrency crowdfunding project and 15th world biggest crowdfunding project ever
[2016-03-23 11:04:55] jung1 : could be green on charts
[2016-03-23 11:05:02] jung1 : when will be released
[2016-03-23 12:40:36] splash : BitMEX_Sam: are u running node in the backend? did u read about the kik thing?
[2016-03-23 12:41:20] splash : well i guess node or not is not so interning, more like are u using npm
[2016-03-23 12:42:23] splash : it seems as though anyone can publish new libs with evil intents on npm now and unsuspecting devs might pull these. I'm not sure about how harmful it could be