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[2016-03-17 21:02:32] Liechtenstein : hi I have a question
[2016-03-17 21:02:53] Liechtenstein : is there a way to experiment with trading here with like fake btc or something like a sandbox before I actually deposit?
[2016-03-17 21:05:17] BitMEX_Sam : Hi Liechtenstein,
[2016-03-17 21:05:25] BitMEX_Sam : We have a full test environment at https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-17 21:05:35] BitMEX_Sam : You can sign up there and deposit Testnet Bitcoin for free, then trade with those
[2016-03-17 21:05:54] Liechtenstein : thanks!
[2016-03-17 21:06:10] Liechtenstein : It's Demelza from earlier btw I emailed you about the data lol
[2016-03-17 21:06:34] Liechtenstein : super cool site you have here, I have been following the updates on reddit for sometime now
[2016-03-17 21:11:54] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: Actually i also have a problem with expiring session on mobile. Imo the session length is too short. Any way to tweak that? I'm using an iphone with safari
[2016-03-17 21:12:16] BitMEX_Sam : We do a rolling 10 minute length, so long as you are still connected to the site, it will renew automatically
[2016-03-17 21:12:50] BitMEX_Sam : Liechtenstein: Thought so, given the username - welcome, and let me know how I can help
[2016-03-17 21:12:50] mrp1nk : i'm connected but when i switch to telegram for some minutes i get logged out
[2016-03-17 21:13:10] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. It's a tricky thing, we have to balance security and convenience
[2016-03-17 21:14:04] mrp1nk : i'll will try different browser. On the PC it works like a charm
[2016-03-17 21:15:58] j8 : i've always had a lot of logouts on mobile, just accepted that. they don't really keep apps open in the background
[2016-03-17 21:24:14] mrp1nk : j8: yeah, that's prolly the reason. However, the possibilty of configuring the session length would be a implementable feature
[2016-03-17 21:25:57] j8 : yep. there are clearly already security issues with exchanges on mobile, but i think it's fine to leave these decisions to the user
[2016-03-17 21:26:41] j8 : have some fairly strict defaults though.
[2016-03-17 21:30:13] mrp1nk : exactly
[2016-03-17 21:43:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I agree that we could implement a configurable session length with in reason
[2016-03-17 22:29:35] mrp1nk : its not thaaaat urgent. implementing OCO and trailing stops is way more important imo
[2016-03-17 22:31:37] mrp1nk : that are really missing features.
[2016-03-17 23:00:01] zanza : its time for 100x Ethereum BOYS
[2016-03-17 23:01:08] mrp1nk : nah, nobody willing to buy orders
[2016-03-17 23:01:38] mrp1nk : wait, 100x?
[2016-03-17 23:07:24] zanza : 100 leverage
[2016-03-17 23:10:50] j8 : liquidated at the spread
[2016-03-17 23:18:29] Mangalica : yeh
[2016-03-17 23:18:54] Mangalica : instant margin call if you don't pay attention to index price
[2016-03-17 23:20:52] mrp1nk : where?
[2016-03-17 23:21:48] mrp1nk : cant see it, only 25x
[2016-03-17 23:24:54] Mangalica : there is no 100x
[2016-03-17 23:25:03] Mangalica : on ETH anywy
[2016-03-17 23:26:13] mrp1nk : ^^
[2016-03-17 23:27:44] mrp1nk : i missed that joke
[2016-03-17 23:39:39] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas
[2016-03-17 23:41:19] zanza : 25% swing in 1 day
[2016-03-17 23:41:25] zanza : on 25x leverage lol
[2016-03-17 23:43:43] rapidtrades : on eth?
[2016-03-17 23:46:20] rapidtrades : zanza: what are u trading these days fella?
[2016-03-17 23:59:30] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: he probably means eth
[2016-03-18 00:46:24] zanza : SP500
[2016-03-18 01:45:59] ett1 : How can I read the O, H ,L or C of a candle? I'm trying to work out the EOD price without the crosshair which isnt accurate
[2016-03-18 01:50:36] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: If you want EOD prices you are better of looking at the raw index prices: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2016-03-18 01:51:05] BitMEX_Wally : (this is the price the XBT24H future is settled on)
[2016-03-18 01:52:21] ett1 : It was for ETH, but not to worriey. I managed to read it off the chart. Just for my spreadsheet entry...
[2016-03-18 01:52:51] ett1 : thanks
[2016-03-18 01:53:16] ett1 : ETH has an index too, thanks
[2016-03-18 02:13:07] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBT2H
[2016-03-18 02:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 180 @ 417.35
[2016-03-18 02:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4050 @ 417.27
[2016-03-18 02:16:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 417.10
[2016-03-18 02:17:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 7000 @ 416.77
[2016-03-18 02:17:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 416.70
[2016-03-18 02:17:12] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-03-18 02:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2200 @ 416.50
[2016-03-18 02:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 420 @ 416.38
[2016-03-18 03:06:25] cryptokeeper : haha,..... #REKT
[2016-03-18 03:06:57] cryptokeeper : he blazed one for the nation. 420.
[2016-03-18 03:25:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `A50H16`: Buy 1 @ 9582.50 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 04:29:19] elmorte : This f'n month...would've been better off keeping my money under the mattress...
[2016-03-18 04:32:27] elmorte : What's up with the range ticker? Blank on XBTs; stuck on last price on ETH
[2016-03-18 04:41:20] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Hmmm let me check
[2016-03-18 04:41:55] elmorte : You see it too?
[2016-03-18 04:45:06] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: That is the high and low price for this trading session
[2016-03-18 04:45:10] BitMEX_Wally : There have been no trades in the last 45 minutes
[2016-03-18 04:47:34] elmorte : How long is the trading session, sorry?
[2016-03-18 05:17:06] BitMEX_Wally : 8 hours
[2016-03-18 05:17:15] BitMEX_Wally : We used to require session margin
[2016-03-18 05:17:41] BitMEX_Wally : and have limitUp/limitDown based on the prevClosePrice
[2016-03-18 05:17:54] BitMEX_Wally : I think the range limit should probably be 24 hours
[2016-03-18 05:18:01] BitMEX_Wally : Same as the 24 volume
[2016-03-18 05:19:53] elmorte : I thought it was 24hrs too
[2016-03-18 05:20:32] elmorte : The range, not the session - I know you release profit every 8hrs
[2016-03-18 05:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 10000 @ 416.47
[2016-03-18 06:00:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 12000 @ 415.32
[2016-03-18 06:35:12] splash : BitEMEX_Wally: since u dont have fiat currency on bitmex, have u considered adding Nubits?
[2016-03-18 06:39:30] splash : it would be a way for u to avoid touching fiat, yet be able to offer an asset pegged to USD
[2016-03-18 06:40:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 230 @ 0.02567
[2016-03-18 06:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.02556
[2016-03-18 06:41:19] BitMEX_Arthur : How liquid is it
[2016-03-18 06:41:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 60 @ 0.02555
[2016-03-18 06:46:04] rapidtrades : shalom fellas
[2016-03-18 06:50:26] BitMEX_Arthur : For pseudo USD I think Tether is a better choice given its backed by Bitfinex's banking relationship in Taiwan which is pretty solid
[2016-03-18 07:06:47] rapidtrades : coins are now cheaper on chinese exchanges
[2016-03-18 07:07:52] rapidtrades : nvm looking at wrong exchange rate again
[2016-03-18 07:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02453
[2016-03-18 07:32:09] splash : BitMEX_Arthur: ok i undertand . sounds good
[2016-03-18 07:32:22] splash : are u plannin on it?
[2016-03-18 07:33:20] BitMEX_Arthur : We are investigating
[2016-03-18 08:57:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02454
[2016-03-18 09:06:36] micmix : no DPE on ETH and FCT, good job!
[2016-03-18 09:06:48] habibi : agree :)
[2016-03-18 09:07:10] habibi : and probally all time high on insurance fund! :) https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceHistory
[2016-03-18 09:08:49] micmix : 17 coins is not a lot, open value for H16 and M16 is over 2k coins
[2016-03-18 09:09:23] habibi : we use to talk about 5btc at insurance fund got wiped by some liquidation or 7 in past
[2016-03-18 09:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02450
[2016-03-18 09:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.00383
[2016-03-18 09:17:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 14 @ 0.00377
[2016-03-18 09:17:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02417
[2016-03-18 09:18:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00374
[2016-03-18 09:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.02406
[2016-03-18 09:19:39] micmix : nice dump, just in time for the settlement
[2016-03-18 09:51:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 60 @ 0.02357
[2016-03-18 09:54:11] elmorte : micmix: word
[2016-03-18 09:54:21] elmorte : Don't go long again!
[2016-03-18 09:54:59] chromaticcr : * 0.03 is the new floor*
[2016-03-18 09:55:28] elmorte : * ?
[2016-03-18 09:55:41] elmorte : eh...I meant * ?
[2016-03-18 09:56:16] chromaticcr : Just wanna quote sone good old trollbox comment on eth price
[2016-03-18 09:56:23] elmorte : Hahaha
[2016-03-18 09:56:38] chromaticcr : Failed on formatting
[2016-03-18 09:56:44] elmorte : Ehhh...hindsight n all that...
[2016-03-18 09:57:04] elmorte : No worries, I thought it was a footnote sign
[2016-03-18 09:57:24] chromaticcr : #REKTom
[2016-03-18 09:58:11] chromaticcr : We should really make an altcoin named this and see how far it could go
[2016-03-18 09:59:13] chromaticcr : Perhaps arthur will take this as the coin officialy for insurance fund, who knows!
[2016-03-18 10:00:11] elmorte : Good luck to all of us then!
[2016-03-18 10:00:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2 @ 414.39 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 10:01:26] elmorte : BitMEX - insured by REKTom. 9/10 proctologists approve
[2016-03-18 10:02:16] elmorte : The 1/10 is rapid :)
[2016-03-18 10:08:05] elmorte : micmix: can you post the link for the bot smileys plz? Didn't save it last time as I only had a limited range of emotions
[2016-03-18 10:21:33] NukeLaloosh : I thought the mark price on was the last trade on polo, no? I'm showing 2313 here and 2280 on polo
[2016-03-18 10:21:39] NukeLaloosh : ...for ETH
[2016-03-18 10:21:51] BitMEX_Arthur : NukeLaloosh: It's the settlement window
[2016-03-18 10:22:10] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBT2H
[2016-03-18 10:22:21] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Arthur: i do realize that. So is mark price the running average now in the window?
[2016-03-18 10:22:31] elmorte : I believe so
[2016-03-18 10:22:33] BitMEX_Arthur : Correct
[2016-03-18 10:22:38] NukeLaloosh : thanks
[2016-03-18 10:27:02] NukeLaloosh : is there a way to get a current mark price without an open position?
[2016-03-18 10:27:19] elmorte : It's under the last price
[2016-03-18 10:27:40] elmorte : to the left of the i 0.00%
[2016-03-18 10:28:14] elmorte : in the orderbook
[2016-03-18 10:28:44] NukeLaloosh : i see it now. in the header next to spot. didn't notice before. cheers @elmorte
[2016-03-18 10:29:06] elmorte : No, that's not the one
[2016-03-18 10:29:17] elmorte : That's just the last transacted price
[2016-03-18 10:29:22] elmorte : Look in the orderbook
[2016-03-18 10:29:40] elmorte : 0.02291 currntly
[2016-03-18 10:30:19] NukeLaloosh : i just see the bid/ask there (2203 x 2404
[2016-03-18 10:30:43] NukeLaloosh : i have the orderbook module fairly small, maybe that's it?
[2016-03-18 10:31:06] NukeLaloosh : nope
[2016-03-18 10:31:09] elmorte : Maybe...I think I'm on basic interface and ask is above bid (not to the side)
[2016-03-18 10:31:16] NukeLaloosh : waht's mark right now?
[2016-03-18 10:31:21] elmorte : 2287
[2016-03-18 10:31:21] NukeLaloosh : 2312?
[2016-03-18 10:31:29] NukeLaloosh : wth haha
[2016-03-18 10:31:30] elmorte : 2312 is the last price
[2016-03-18 10:31:59] elmorte : You can also see the mark price in Closed Positions
[2016-03-18 10:32:12] NukeLaloosh : in the header i'm showing xbt spot eth spot 2229 and eth7d 2312
[2016-03-18 10:32:26] NukeLaloosh : ah there you go
[2016-03-18 10:32:31] elmorte : :)
[2016-03-18 10:32:32] NukeLaloosh : that works. thank you sir
[2016-03-18 11:08:09] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I have changed the low/high price range to be calculated over the last 24 hours rather than the current session. Currently live in testnet
[2016-03-18 11:29:21] elmorte : Cheers
[2016-03-18 11:33:08] messiaen8844 : BitMex: man we need 50x ETH 24h ;)
[2016-03-18 11:33:58] ett1 : First time here, Can positions be rolled over immediately at expiration?
[2016-03-18 11:35:10] sleger : if you're quick with the mouse maybe
[2016-03-18 11:35:57] ett1 : Thats fine, so there's no time delay between expiry and the new contract being available. Cheers
[2016-03-18 11:36:04] sleger : few secs
[2016-03-18 11:36:23] j8 : ett1: there's no autoroll or anything like that, but you can start trading the daily roll `XBT48H` already
[2016-03-18 11:36:31] BitMEX_Arthur : ett1: We will be listing a way to roll between the daily and two day contract in one trade son
[2016-03-18 11:36:32] BitMEX_Arthur : soon
[2016-03-18 11:36:34] BitMEX_Arthur : called a calendar spread
[2016-03-18 11:40:39] j8 : that's cool, any way it can source liquidity from the two contracts? or is it left to the bots.
[2016-03-18 11:41:35] BitMEX_Arthur : for now left to bots, our main mm will quote on it once it's up, but we will add the logic to import liquidity from the outrights
[2016-03-18 11:43:26] j8 : that would be a pretty big deal imho. i guess it requires an atomic transaction that does two trades on different contracts?
[2016-03-18 11:47:54] BitMEX_Arthur : Wally can do it, we will see the take up on the calendar spread once it lists and prioritise accordingly
[2016-03-18 11:51:18] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and when trading the calendar spread you only pay fees on the back month leg
[2016-03-18 11:51:42] j8 : first in the industry anyway. would be awesome for quarterly spreads
[2016-03-18 11:59:05] j8 : getting a weird notification when a post-only order is rejected: `Order could not be submitted: C.default.prototype.convertCurrency is not a function`
[2016-03-18 12:01:24] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure if that is related to post-only. Could you refresh and try again?
[2016-03-18 12:02:07] justinlooking : oh look sep
[2016-03-18 12:02:31] NukeLaloosh : are we in the new ETH7D?
[2016-03-18 12:03:32] NukeLaloosh : nevermind :)
[2016-03-18 12:03:34] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i refreshed, still happening
[2016-03-18 12:04:39] BitMEX_Wally : j8: ok I have recreated
[2016-03-18 12:05:03] BitMEX_Wally : it works via the API which is how market makers use it
[2016-03-18 12:05:09] BitMEX_Wally : but broken via the frontend
[2016-03-18 12:05:12] j8 : i see
[2016-03-18 12:05:37] BitMEX_Wally : We will fix it today
[2016-03-18 12:31:22] arbitrage001 : london bridge is falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:26] arbitrage001 : falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:30] arbitrage001 : falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:39] arbitrage001 : opps
[2016-03-18 12:33:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 3289 @ 0.02126
[2016-03-18 12:37:24] j8 : ouch, only 33 minutes into trading
[2016-03-18 12:40:24] splash : what happened to the eth bulls?
[2016-03-18 12:40:38] habibi : splash: seems they didnt listen to ur great idea :)
[2016-03-18 12:40:50] splash : lol
[2016-03-18 12:40:58] splash : yes i was wrong about price going up
[2016-03-18 12:41:26] splash : im a shity trader. what can i say
[2016-03-18 12:41:57] habibi : splash: nah :) join us on https://www.stakepool.com/connect/teamspeak
[2016-03-18 12:43:00] splash : thanks for the invite.
[2016-03-18 12:43:14] splash : if people just do the oppspite of what i do they will be allright
[2016-03-18 12:44:03] Mangalica : 3.5k BTC wall at 0.02
[2016-03-18 12:44:32] Mangalica : not doing much for ask side volume
[2016-03-18 12:44:59] habibi : Mangalica: its fugazi !:)
[2016-03-18 12:45:07] Mangalica : i wouldn't be surprised if a scared whale took it as an invitation to get out
[2016-03-18 12:45:15] Mangalica : are you Pysek?
[2016-03-18 12:45:21] habibi : its our already :) yeas
[2016-03-18 12:47:07] Mangalica : if i had endless money i'd place a 500 BTC market order just to spike up to 0.024 and fuck everyone
[2016-03-18 12:54:45] viptrader : SELL ETH
[2016-03-18 12:59:31] Mangalica : i already sold most above 0.03 :(
[2016-03-18 13:00:21] elmorte : lol
[2016-03-18 13:03:39] Mangalica : i actually rethought a small amount for a potential bounce to 23
[2016-03-18 13:03:45] Mangalica : rebought
[2016-03-18 13:05:07] Mangalica : ayy
[2016-03-18 13:06:02] Mangalica : that was quick
[2016-03-18 13:16:06] arbitrage001 : any asset falling this sharp hardly ever recover
[2016-03-18 13:16:17] arbitrage001 : bitcoin is an exception
[2016-03-18 13:16:33] sleger : all shitcoins dying ?
[2016-03-18 13:16:44] arbitrage001 : sleger: yup
[2016-03-18 13:18:14] arbitrage001 : 20% drop in one day
[2016-03-18 13:20:16] sleger : we need a 10% rebound so the believers give us even more money when it finally does -99%
[2016-03-18 13:20:43] arbitrage001 : hah
[2016-03-18 13:20:56] arbitrage001 : but i am balless to short
[2016-03-18 13:24:49] sleger : I had a small short but the settlement just killed it
[2016-03-18 13:54:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 66 @ 0.00395
[2016-03-18 13:56:27] Bauer : Hey! any mod or admin here?
[2016-03-18 13:57:11] sleger : Bauer: hey Jack !
[2016-03-18 13:57:23] sleger : how was your day ?
[2016-03-18 13:58:28] rapidtrades : the real Jack Bauer?
[2016-03-18 13:59:49] Bauer : sleger: Hey! Fine actually. Its friday so no complaints. Hows yours?
[2016-03-18 13:59:55] Bauer : rapidtrades: Real deal =D
[2016-03-18 14:00:30] Bauer : Has there been delays with withdrawals today?
[2016-03-18 14:00:37] rapidtrades : Bauer: hey....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Bauer
[2016-03-18 14:00:48] rapidtrades : says u aint real?
[2016-03-18 14:01:07] Bauer : rapidtrades: Dont belive the truth
[2016-03-18 14:03:19] Bauer : Seems that there was some slownes in withdrawals but all good now =) New here so i might be a bit "jumpy" so to say
[2016-03-18 14:07:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.02244
[2016-03-18 14:12:05] BitMEX_Wally : Bauer: Sorry for the delay, all withdrawals have to be processed manually by 2 partners
[2016-03-18 14:14:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02307 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 14:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.02314
[2016-03-18 14:22:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 479 @ 0.02269
[2016-03-18 14:40:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 100 @ 464.45
[2016-03-18 14:41:10] habibi : wow september contracts
[2016-03-18 14:41:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 21 @ 412.11
[2016-03-18 14:42:30] 1z6 : BitMEX_Sam: ": XBTU16" showing for new sept contract
[2016-03-18 14:43:18] rapidtrades : wow u smaht
[2016-03-18 14:43:40] sleger : smaht ? is it like shure ?
[2016-03-18 14:44:09] rapidtrades : yes it is jew, yes it is
[2016-03-18 14:45:27] BitMEX_Wally : 1z6: `XBTU16` is the ticker. Are we showing the ticker somewhere we shouldn't?
[2016-03-18 14:45:42] 1z6 : in the sidebar
[2016-03-18 14:47:50] BitMEX_Wally : 1z6: Not sure what you mean
[2016-03-18 14:48:09] sleger : i think he might be confusing the U for the hedging contract ?
[2016-03-18 14:50:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.02385
[2016-03-18 14:50:27] arbitrage001 : XBTU16 is the september right?
[2016-03-18 14:50:44] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-03-18 14:50:51] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: ok thank you
[2016-03-18 14:51:14] arbitrage001 : volume still qquite low
[2016-03-18 14:51:32] BitMEX_Wally : Just listed today: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTU16
[2016-03-18 14:52:52] habibi : doom inc?
[2016-03-18 14:52:57] habibi : rapidtrades:^^
[2016-03-18 14:54:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 106 @ 409.92
[2016-03-18 14:54:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 932 @ 409.37
[2016-03-18 14:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 756 @ 407.96
[2016-03-18 15:00:15] 1z6 : ignore me
[2016-03-18 15:00:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02401
[2016-03-18 15:00:21] 1z6 : its correct
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 407.72
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3700 @ 456.05
[2016-03-18 15:01:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 407.61
[2016-03-18 15:02:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 1980 @ 408.74
[2016-03-18 15:02:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 150 @ 407.54
[2016-03-18 15:02:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 838 @ 408.60
[2016-03-18 15:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02496
[2016-03-18 15:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02484
[2016-03-18 15:48:37] rapidtrades : you'd think we get a rally on the back of ETH demise...guess not
[2016-03-18 15:49:04] habibi : funny to watch these market today :)
[2016-03-18 15:49:06] rapidtrades : maybe founders now cashing out eth-btc-usd
[2016-03-18 15:49:10] habibi : trollbox even more fun
[2016-03-18 15:50:43] chromaticcr1 : "meow", says ether
[2016-03-18 15:55:39] rapidtrades : ''why are rates so low''
[2016-03-18 15:55:51] rapidtrades : ''what's up with ether guys is everyone selling''
[2016-03-18 15:56:39] habibi : i love how they buying when total buy orders is high, they take so much attention to so simple manipulation
[2016-03-18 15:57:45] rapidtrades : they're prolly buy on every dip, just like they did previously
[2016-03-18 15:57:54] rapidtrades : only the last time it wont come back :)
[2016-03-18 15:58:10] habibi : they got a nice beating yday buying "dip" at 0.025
[2016-03-18 15:58:40] rapidtrades : how low did u go
[2016-03-18 15:59:21] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: saw 8.7 usd
[2016-03-18 15:59:29] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: now back to 10 usd
[2016-03-18 15:59:46] viptrader : ETH to the mooooooon
[2016-03-18 15:59:49] viptrader : buy buy buy buy
[2016-03-18 16:00:05] arbitrage001 : dont know how someone can sleep well holding eth
[2016-03-18 16:00:26] habibi : can someone ban this very important trader?
[2016-03-18 16:00:45] rapidtrades : everything's going down today
[2016-03-18 16:01:18] viptrader : up to 0.04 we go
[2016-03-18 16:01:58] rapidtrades : only 2 out of the top 20 coins are up today http://coinmarketcap.com/
[2016-03-18 16:02:44] habibi : black friday :)
[2016-03-18 16:04:08] rapidtrades : smth is brewing that's for sure
[2016-03-18 16:07:42] rapidtrades : anyone running multiple systems or strategies?
[2016-03-18 16:08:27] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: cash and carry still most profitable
[2016-03-18 16:09:31] rapidtrades : yeah it will be until u get clawed
[2016-03-18 16:09:43] rapidtrades : that's not what i asked
[2016-03-18 16:09:46] arbitrage001 : all methods have risk
[2016-03-18 16:10:28] rapidtrades : and that method has unspecified risk
[2016-03-18 16:11:38] rapidtrades : so it's not really the ''most profitable'' until u know the risk side of the equation
[2016-03-18 16:14:42] sleger : rapidtrades: i thought you've been doing that too ? (cash and carry)
[2016-03-18 16:15:12] rapidtrades : very small, testing amounts
[2016-03-18 16:16:15] rapidtrades : not saying its a bad idea, just don't know how to price the risk yet
[2016-03-18 16:16:49] sleger : there are historical data as to how high the premium went - that is the risk (based on historical data)
[2016-03-18 16:17:15] sleger : and for xbt24H that was around 60$ premium I believe (or almost 20% for <24h)
[2016-03-18 16:18:21] j8 : what are you talking about
[2016-03-18 16:20:31] sleger : max premium on 24h
[2016-03-18 16:22:23] j8 : yeah but that's just one factor in the clawback risk
[2016-03-18 16:22:57] sleger : we werent talking about clawback risk
[2016-03-18 16:23:05] sleger : just cash and carry arb in general
[2016-03-18 16:23:38] j8 : i thought that was the unspecified risk rapidtrades was referring to
[2016-03-18 16:23:40] sleger : i agree there are other risks than the actual premium though
[2016-03-18 16:24:07] sleger : yes there are many other risks : clawback as you say, exchange default risk etc...
[2016-03-18 17:21:13] splash : this one is fun https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/new/
[2016-03-18 17:21:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 420 @ 0.02371
[2016-03-18 17:38:35] mpkomara : GOOD AFTERNOON HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 17:57:00] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 950 @ 407.22
[2016-03-18 17:58:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 7000 @ 407.03
[2016-03-18 18:24:01] zanza : ETH and XBT down in the same day? there goes that theory
[2016-03-18 18:24:37] troymcclure : exactly my thoughts and ive not even been here when i saw this is going to happen
[2016-03-18 18:35:23] mpkomara : R I P B T C HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 18:35:39] BitMEX_Sam : We got ourselves a skeeter here
[2016-03-18 18:44:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3 @ 452.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 18:59:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 14950 @ 452.08
[2016-03-18 19:09:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 50 @ 452.03
[2016-03-18 19:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 405.72
[2016-03-18 19:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 405.74
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 8400 @ 441.90
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2000 @ 447.23
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 10 @ 447.48
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 10000 @ 439.53
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 4700 @ 439.40
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 4500 @ 440.23
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1000 @ 448.45
[2016-03-18 19:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5721 @ 404.50
[2016-03-18 19:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 400 @ 405.35
[2016-03-18 19:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5 @ 403.44
[2016-03-18 19:54:42] annon : Did the trollbox die, or is everyone just very quiet?
[2016-03-18 19:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : Just quiet
[2016-03-18 19:55:26] BitMEX_Sam : Fits & spurts of activity
[2016-03-18 19:55:54] annon : right
[2016-03-18 19:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll be in and out the rest of the day today - enjoy the volatility, everyone
[2016-03-18 20:18:12] viptrader : hi guys
[2016-03-18 20:18:17] viptrader : if i use cross
[2016-03-18 20:18:23] viptrader : it means im not using leverage?
[2016-03-18 20:18:50] thehawthorne : LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[2016-03-18 20:19:00] viptrader : im new
[2016-03-18 20:19:02] viptrader : so please help
[2016-03-18 20:19:26] thehawthorne : if you are new don't use leverage
[2016-03-18 20:19:48] thehawthorne : you can use 100x leverage
[2016-03-18 20:19:59] thehawthorne : you should use less
[2016-03-18 20:20:14] viptrader : thehawthorne: but what is the cross means
[2016-03-18 20:23:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 100 @ 406.42
[2016-03-18 20:23:13] mpkomara : MAX AND RELAX LAND LUBBERS! HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:31:37] viptrader : cross means u r not using leverage?
[2016-03-18 20:32:12] mpkomara : CROSS = RIDIN SPINNERS HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:32:43] mpkomara : RIDE SHADOWFAX
[2016-03-18 20:33:32] viptrader : mpkomara: please explain
[2016-03-18 20:34:58] mpkomara : Does my text English can be muddled with native speaker English, or it is clear for you just by language, that i am not native-speaker?
[2016-03-18 20:35:09] annon : viptrader: Cross margin means that you use all your coins in the bitmex account to back the margin position
[2016-03-18 20:36:05] annon : viptrader: Without cross the position only uses the amount you initially (or later) add to it. Not sure exactly how that works, I usually use cross.
[2016-03-18 20:36:23] sleger : viptrader: if you are new, why are you a "viptrader" ?
[2016-03-18 20:36:58] mpkomara : HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:37:01] annon : Without cross it used to be so that you opened the position with maximum leverage, so if the price went against you you got immediately margin called. I think they changed that somehow though.
[2016-03-18 20:37:36] annon : Anyhow, you should look at the FAQ and docs and do your due diligence, and not trust the people in the Trollbox...
[2016-03-18 20:38:02] annon : (Other than the ones with names starting with BitMEX_ )
[2016-03-18 20:39:49] annon : Also, ignore the trolls.
[2016-03-18 20:41:09] rapidtrades : good evening jews
[2016-03-18 20:52:25] habibi : annon: kinda trollcepction, telling troll from polo to ignore other trolls
[2016-03-18 21:17:07] annon : He was a troll? I just assumed he was a noob.
[2016-03-18 21:18:09] annon : Anyway, cross margin is somewhat specific to BitMEX
[2016-03-18 21:18:32] annon : So expected to cause questions.
[2016-03-18 21:19:09] habibi : okc has cross option as well, kinda typical for futures
[2016-03-18 21:31:59] sleger : even bitfinex uses cross margin, this guy doesnt know what he's talking about, one more...
[2016-03-18 21:32:59] habibi : sleger: whats ur net position?
[2016-03-18 21:35:15] rapidtrades : sleger: not exactly, finex DOESN'T HAVE isolated margin, that's different
[2016-03-18 21:35:32] sleger : rapidtrades: it uses cross margin
[2016-03-18 21:35:41] sleger : what i said was correct
[2016-03-18 21:35:48] rapidtrades : technically yes
[2016-03-18 21:36:09] sleger : it was just a response to "annon: Anyway, cross margin is somewhat specific to BitMEX"
[2016-03-18 21:46:59] micmix : XBTU16 fair basis rate only 49%, kinda low
[2016-03-18 21:48:51] habibi : micmix: how about weekly okc price and big amount of contracts ?
[2016-03-18 21:50:08] mpkomara : time to load the BOAT HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 21:53:25] rapidtrades : dam ok june only $7 premium
[2016-03-18 21:53:32] rapidtrades : weekly at discount
[2016-03-18 21:53:36] micmix : okc top looks good, 38k coins. dropped a bit when weekly closed but still much higher than 22k-24k in beginning of March
[2016-03-18 21:56:53] annon : My point was that few cryptocurrency exchanges offer the option of selecting isolated or cross margin
[2016-03-18 21:57:14] rapidtrades : annon: this is a futures platform not an exchang
[2016-03-18 21:57:21] rapidtrades : btc in/ btc out
[2016-03-18 21:59:24] habibi : futures exchange according to welcome bitmex page
[2016-03-18 22:03:07] rapidtrades : everyone flat?
[2016-03-18 22:11:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6057 @ 407.76
[2016-03-18 22:17:52] micmix : where is that tulip guy who was trying to sell his bot here? haven't seen him around lately
[2016-03-18 22:19:37] habibi : i bet he got another 30% loss out of nowhere and he is trying to figure it out how it happened
[2016-03-18 22:21:30] rapidtrades : whenever smone says I don't know how my bot trades, it's time to run...at least he was honest unlike 99% of bot sellers out there
[2016-03-18 22:22:45] Mangalica : "i don't know how my bot trades" sounds great
[2016-03-18 22:23:19] habibi : that's literally what he said? :D
[2016-03-18 22:24:26] rapidtrades : well I'm paraphrasing but yeah...he had no idea how the bot comes up with the signals nor where to exit ahead of time
[2016-03-18 22:25:15] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised if the profits came from using large or non-existent stop
[2016-03-18 22:25:49] rapidtrades : would be consistent with profits every day for a month then 30% loss pattern
[2016-03-18 22:26:41] micmix : I think he said that he knows how his bot makes money but he couldn't figure out where that 30% sudden loss comes from
[2016-03-18 22:27:39] micmix : I don't remember exactly but that's the impression I got. Also he didn't want to give a trial version to sleger for test run
[2016-03-18 22:27:52] j8 : to be fair probably a lot of good bots don't give a good explanation for their action, other than stats says so
[2016-03-18 22:27:58] rapidtrades : I doubt that, i remember him saying he doesn't know his risk because the bot doesn't come up with stops ahead of time
[2016-03-18 22:28:11] rapidtrades : that was to micmix :)
[2016-03-18 22:28:20] j8 : but yeah he basically refused to do risk management
[2016-03-18 22:29:32] rapidtrades : arrogant lil bugger he was...
[2016-03-18 22:29:43] micmix : yes, I understand that models can be complex enough that you can't say why the bot is buying/selling at this particular time, but 30% sudden loss has to be investigated in any case
[2016-03-18 22:30:25] micmix : no risk management is kinda scary :-)
[2016-03-18 22:30:29] Mangalica : i've see trading "strategies" like that on sites where only CLOSED positions are shown. The bot essentially took profit where it could and let losers run.
[2016-03-18 22:30:45] rapidtrades : Mangalica: yeah that's one of the scams
[2016-03-18 22:30:57] Mangalica : looked like (suspiciously) consistent returns from the outside, until it collapsed
[2016-03-18 22:31:26] rapidtrades : anything that makes money 90% of the time will eventually eat a large loss...there's no way around it
[2016-03-18 22:32:11] rapidtrades : 90% winning trades*
[2016-03-18 22:33:22] micmix : well good MM can make money 90% of the time but it doesn't have 90% winning trades
[2016-03-18 22:33:39] rapidtrades : well yeah, that's why i corrected myself :)
[2016-03-18 22:35:12] rapidtrades : if ur looking at a statement and u see +90% wins and u don't see any large losses, that's a major red flag
[2016-03-18 22:55:10] Skuffone : When are withdrawals processed?
[2016-03-18 22:57:41] habibi : Skuffone: what was first, egg or chicken?
[2016-03-18 22:58:31] Skuffone : Well I have been waiting 24h now
[2016-03-18 22:59:45] rapidtrades : Skuffone: did u confirm by email
[2016-03-18 22:59:49] habibi : i bet u did nt confirm
[2016-03-18 23:00:05] Skuffone : Yep
[2016-03-18 23:00:23] rapidtrades : Skuffone: did u check the blockchain? these are super special transactions
[2016-03-18 23:00:30] rapidtrades : super slooow
[2016-03-18 23:02:05] Skuffone : Yeah didn't get a hash
[2016-03-18 23:02:52] Skuffone : Thanks - I have reprocessed
[2016-03-18 23:03:08] Skuffone : I think it must have not been conformed
[2016-03-18 23:03:46] habibi : Skuffone: so withdraws are made once a day at 13.00 utc
[2016-03-18 23:05:22] Skuffone : Cool over night then for me .I got a withdrawal confirmed
[2016-03-18 23:05:31] Skuffone : emal this time
[2016-03-18 23:08:46] habibi : Skuffone: and egg was first btw
[2016-03-18 23:40:17] rapidtrades : u guys think a crisis is coming? is zerohedge right?
[2016-03-18 23:42:16] sleger : according to zerohedge a crisis is coming since 2010
[2016-03-19 00:12:08] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-stop-orders-bitcoin/
[2016-03-19 00:13:16] rapidtrades : it's a bit hilarious how late some exchanges implemented stops....btc-e had them years ago
[2016-03-19 00:19:16] micmix : maybe they didn't have enough liquidity to do stops without major slippage. their tech team is quite competent
[2016-03-19 00:33:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.00383 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-19 02:06:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1297 @ 0.02531
[2016-03-19 02:34:50] messiaen8844 : maybe stop orders problem was related to cold-hot storage, they need enough coins on hot wallet to make it work I think
[2016-03-19 02:41:15] j8 : it's an order type on the exchange, has nothing to do with wallets until someone wants to withdraw
[2016-03-19 04:08:08] bitbanker : Spot Price $400.00 Weekly Futures $395.00
[2016-03-19 04:09:06] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Where are you getting your data? .XBT is at 407.09 and XBT7D is at 408.23
[2016-03-19 04:10:03] bitbanker : why is that
[2016-03-19 04:11:12] mpkomara : LOL
[2016-03-19 04:12:38] bitbanker : no I was asking because I read this online on how to trade I had a few questions
[2016-03-19 04:15:53] bitbanker : Spot Price in $411.03 at an exchanger if I sell at 407.09 will be in profit at $3.94
[2016-03-19 04:16:20] bitbanker : i just had a question that's all
[2016-03-19 04:17:12] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: If you sell a future at 407.09 when spot is at 411.03 then that is a theoretical loss
[2016-03-19 04:18:20] BitMEX_Wally : Your profit/loss is determined by the price where you exit, either by closing the position or waiting until settlement
[2016-03-19 04:18:59] bitbanker : ok hild pleae let take all that in.lol
[2016-03-19 04:27:28] bitbanker : let me sell that again i sell at 407.09 buy at 400.00 is that a gain of $7.09
[2016-03-19 04:28:14] bitbanker : i think i got it
[2016-03-19 04:28:54] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, buy low, sell high :)
[2016-03-19 04:29:44] bitbanker : ok i understood it i just rote it wrong but thank you very very much and have a nice day bye
[2016-03-19 05:01:56] bitbanker : if i buy the XBT at 407.09 and sell XBT7D 408.23 will i profit 1.14 just to make sure i got everything correct
[2016-03-19 05:03:05] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, and be aware of trading fees for both exchanges, etc.
[2016-03-19 05:03:29] bitbanker : ok well thankz see ya
[2016-03-19 05:09:43] dmbtmxdm : is there any way I can demo bitmex?
[2016-03-19 05:25:22] zanza : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-03-19 06:00:34] vbmithr : You can even use Sierra Chart to demo bitmex _through_ Sierra Chart :)
[2016-03-19 06:25:53] micmix : FCT is not doing well, I'm like a half of the open interest :-)
[2016-03-19 07:56:57] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-03-19 07:57:16] ayy_lmao : rip my username, _ turned me to green
[2016-03-19 08:34:12] stevelim : ETH pump coming soon?
[2016-03-19 08:45:22] uiop : stevelim: "and dump"
[2016-03-19 08:49:52] stevelim : yep, but pump first
[2016-03-19 08:58:25] stevelim : 0.027 might be the last hope for the bears.
[2016-03-19 08:59:49] rapidtrades : micmix: u trading with ur own monies now?
[2016-03-19 09:04:52] micmix : rapidtrades: no, why?
[2016-03-19 09:49:05] rapidtrades : micmix: well goldman pulled out no?
[2016-03-19 09:52:26] micmix : rapidtrades: you mean "my biggest client" that I mentioned? I was never trading with their money, I did lots of dev work for them
[2016-03-19 09:54:07] rapidtrades : oh ok
[2016-03-19 09:54:30] micmix : and they were never present here on BitMEX anyway
[2016-03-19 12:46:14] bitbanker : hi
[2016-03-19 12:48:06] bitbanker : is there a maximum deposit
[2016-03-19 12:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: There are no limits on deposits or withdrawals
[2016-03-19 12:49:38] bitbanker : ok thank you bye
[2016-03-19 15:25:13] rapidtrades : slow Saturday huh
[2016-03-19 15:58:34] Diva : Hi
[2016-03-19 16:03:05] rapidtrades : shalom
[2016-03-19 17:01:15] splash : di diva
[2016-03-19 17:01:19] splash : i mean hi
[2016-03-19 17:44:50] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: u there?
[2016-03-19 18:01:08] tscha : WTF
[2016-03-19 18:01:09] tscha : okcoin
[2016-03-19 18:04:38] habibi : tscha: ?
[2016-03-19 18:05:08] tscha : habibi: okcoincom dropped 7 bucks... prolly freddy fatfinger
[2016-03-19 18:05:29] tscha : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd
[2016-03-19 18:06:57] habibi : ah yea, didnt pay attention to usd version so was kinda confused
[2016-03-19 18:07:40] sleger : only had time to bought 20 below 400 :(
[2016-03-19 18:07:46] sleger : *to buy
[2016-03-19 18:23:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 22 @ 0.02623
[2016-03-19 18:25:31] tscha : sleger: do you know anyone that is in lowest fee tier at finex?
[2016-03-19 18:33:12] sleger : tscha: for taker fees no
[2016-03-19 18:38:08] rapidtrades : who's f*cking with okoin
[2016-03-19 19:42:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 6 @ 0.02552
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02550
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 611 @ 0.02550
[2016-03-19 19:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 350 @ 0.02546