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[2016-03-17 19:07:37] rapidtrades : sweet
[2016-03-17 19:08:02] rapidtrades : maybe its micmix...has to be more aggresive after Goldman pulled out
[2016-03-17 19:08:21] mpkomara : WHALE ALERT HONK HONK
[2016-03-17 19:12:18] mpkomara : NICE SUNNY DAY ON THE SS ARBITRAGE
[2016-03-17 19:21:34] j8 : whats with the caps man? this is a civilized trollbox
[2016-03-17 19:21:49] sleger : damn this guy again
[2016-03-17 19:24:18] mpkomara : oh HELLO sleger HONK HONK
[2016-03-17 19:32:27] mrp1nk : mpkomara: HI, DON'T KNOW YOU YET.
[2016-03-17 19:32:55] mpkomara : mrp1nk: OF COURSE YOU DONT LAND LUBBER!
[2016-03-17 19:35:56] splash : BitMEX_Sam: what I like about trading view is the many TA tools u get with it. then again, i dont do TA on the contracts here anyway.
[2016-03-17 19:37:00] BlaccANT : guys how does this thing works?
[2016-03-17 19:37:33] mrp1nk : ?
[2016-03-17 19:42:49] habibi : BlaccANT: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-03-17 20:32:25] BitMEX_Sam : j8: I've heard scattered reports of that in the last few weeks, never been able to replicate it
[2016-03-17 20:32:32] BitMEX_Sam : I stay logged in all day on a few machines just to try to trigger it
[2016-03-17 20:32:56] j8 : yeah it was around 4 times in a half hour and fine since then
[2016-03-17 20:34:03] BitMEX_Sam : Odd - we actually found some affiliates were cookie stuffing, which has the effect of logging you out when you hit the registration page
[2016-03-17 20:34:12] BitMEX_Sam : But we closed that hole, and it doesn't explain a lot of the logouts
[2016-03-17 20:34:21] j8 : i see
[2016-03-17 20:34:30] BitMEX_Sam : Any chance you're hitting /login or /register in another tab?
[2016-03-17 20:35:20] j8 : no but i was on the stakepool site briefly, but didn't click any links back
[2016-03-17 20:37:14] kogroken : BitMEX_Sam: I got logged out two times in a row or so, directly after logging in. It happened after I got the warning of session expiring soon, and logged out and in manually to avoid having it log me out suddenly.
[2016-03-17 20:37:41] kogroken : I had multiple tabs open.
[2016-03-17 20:38:17] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, it's a bit tricky with multiple tabs - you have to refresh them after logging in with each one
[2016-03-17 20:39:20] BitMEX_Sam : I'm seeing some stakepool pages causing logout
[2016-03-17 20:40:05] kogroken : /me just had bitmex trading pages open. I try not to run anything else in the same browser.
[2016-03-17 20:46:00] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add a ticket to tweak that flow a bit
[2016-03-17 20:46:10] BitMEX_Sam : I'd like the other pages to pick up the new token, or at least log themselves in, once you log in on one
[2016-03-17 20:46:30] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise it's a bit confusing - if all your tabs end up at the login page, you have to login on one, then click the logo on the other ones (or close them and open new bitmex tabs)
[2016-03-17 21:02:32] Liechtenstein : hi I have a question
[2016-03-17 21:02:53] Liechtenstein : is there a way to experiment with trading here with like fake btc or something like a sandbox before I actually deposit?
[2016-03-17 21:05:17] BitMEX_Sam : Hi Liechtenstein,
[2016-03-17 21:05:25] BitMEX_Sam : We have a full test environment at https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-17 21:05:35] BitMEX_Sam : You can sign up there and deposit Testnet Bitcoin for free, then trade with those
[2016-03-17 21:05:54] Liechtenstein : thanks!
[2016-03-17 21:06:10] Liechtenstein : It's Demelza from earlier btw I emailed you about the data lol
[2016-03-17 21:06:34] Liechtenstein : super cool site you have here, I have been following the updates on reddit for sometime now
[2016-03-17 21:11:54] mrp1nk : BitMEX_Sam: Actually i also have a problem with expiring session on mobile. Imo the session length is too short. Any way to tweak that? I'm using an iphone with safari
[2016-03-17 21:12:16] BitMEX_Sam : We do a rolling 10 minute length, so long as you are still connected to the site, it will renew automatically
[2016-03-17 21:12:50] BitMEX_Sam : Liechtenstein: Thought so, given the username - welcome, and let me know how I can help
[2016-03-17 21:12:50] mrp1nk : i'm connected but when i switch to telegram for some minutes i get logged out
[2016-03-17 21:13:10] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. It's a tricky thing, we have to balance security and convenience
[2016-03-17 21:14:04] mrp1nk : i'll will try different browser. On the PC it works like a charm
[2016-03-17 21:15:58] j8 : i've always had a lot of logouts on mobile, just accepted that. they don't really keep apps open in the background
[2016-03-17 21:24:14] mrp1nk : j8: yeah, that's prolly the reason. However, the possibilty of configuring the session length would be a implementable feature
[2016-03-17 21:25:57] j8 : yep. there are clearly already security issues with exchanges on mobile, but i think it's fine to leave these decisions to the user
[2016-03-17 21:26:41] j8 : have some fairly strict defaults though.
[2016-03-17 21:30:13] mrp1nk : exactly
[2016-03-17 21:43:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I agree that we could implement a configurable session length with in reason
[2016-03-17 22:29:35] mrp1nk : its not thaaaat urgent. implementing OCO and trailing stops is way more important imo
[2016-03-17 22:31:37] mrp1nk : that are really missing features.
[2016-03-17 23:00:01] zanza : its time for 100x Ethereum BOYS
[2016-03-17 23:01:08] mrp1nk : nah, nobody willing to buy orders
[2016-03-17 23:01:38] mrp1nk : wait, 100x?
[2016-03-17 23:07:24] zanza : 100 leverage
[2016-03-17 23:10:50] j8 : liquidated at the spread
[2016-03-17 23:18:29] Mangalica : yeh
[2016-03-17 23:18:54] Mangalica : instant margin call if you don't pay attention to index price
[2016-03-17 23:20:52] mrp1nk : where?
[2016-03-17 23:21:48] mrp1nk : cant see it, only 25x
[2016-03-17 23:24:54] Mangalica : there is no 100x
[2016-03-17 23:25:03] Mangalica : on ETH anywy
[2016-03-17 23:26:13] mrp1nk : ^^
[2016-03-17 23:27:44] mrp1nk : i missed that joke
[2016-03-17 23:39:39] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas
[2016-03-17 23:41:19] zanza : 25% swing in 1 day
[2016-03-17 23:41:25] zanza : on 25x leverage lol
[2016-03-17 23:43:43] rapidtrades : on eth?
[2016-03-17 23:46:20] rapidtrades : zanza: what are u trading these days fella?
[2016-03-17 23:59:30] mrp1nk : rapidtrades: he probably means eth
[2016-03-18 00:46:24] zanza : SP500
[2016-03-18 01:45:59] ett1 : How can I read the O, H ,L or C of a candle? I'm trying to work out the EOD price without the crosshair which isnt accurate
[2016-03-18 01:50:36] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: If you want EOD prices you are better of looking at the raw index prices: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M
[2016-03-18 01:51:05] BitMEX_Wally : (this is the price the XBT24H future is settled on)
[2016-03-18 01:52:21] ett1 : It was for ETH, but not to worriey. I managed to read it off the chart. Just for my spreadsheet entry...
[2016-03-18 01:52:51] ett1 : thanks
[2016-03-18 01:53:16] ett1 : ETH has an index too, thanks
[2016-03-18 02:13:07] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBT2H
[2016-03-18 02:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 180 @ 417.35
[2016-03-18 02:16:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4050 @ 417.27
[2016-03-18 02:16:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 100 @ 417.10
[2016-03-18 02:17:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 7000 @ 416.77
[2016-03-18 02:17:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 400 @ 416.70
[2016-03-18 02:17:12] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-03-18 02:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2200 @ 416.50
[2016-03-18 02:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 420 @ 416.38
[2016-03-18 03:06:25] cryptokeeper : haha,..... #REKT
[2016-03-18 03:06:57] cryptokeeper : he blazed one for the nation. 420.
[2016-03-18 03:25:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `A50H16`: Buy 1 @ 9582.50 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 04:29:19] elmorte : This f'n month...would've been better off keeping my money under the mattress...
[2016-03-18 04:32:27] elmorte : What's up with the range ticker? Blank on XBTs; stuck on last price on ETH
[2016-03-18 04:41:20] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Hmmm let me check
[2016-03-18 04:41:55] elmorte : You see it too?
[2016-03-18 04:45:06] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: That is the high and low price for this trading session
[2016-03-18 04:45:10] BitMEX_Wally : There have been no trades in the last 45 minutes
[2016-03-18 04:47:34] elmorte : How long is the trading session, sorry?
[2016-03-18 05:17:06] BitMEX_Wally : 8 hours
[2016-03-18 05:17:15] BitMEX_Wally : We used to require session margin
[2016-03-18 05:17:41] BitMEX_Wally : and have limitUp/limitDown based on the prevClosePrice
[2016-03-18 05:17:54] BitMEX_Wally : I think the range limit should probably be 24 hours
[2016-03-18 05:18:01] BitMEX_Wally : Same as the 24 volume
[2016-03-18 05:19:53] elmorte : I thought it was 24hrs too
[2016-03-18 05:20:32] elmorte : The range, not the session - I know you release profit every 8hrs
[2016-03-18 05:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 10000 @ 416.47
[2016-03-18 06:00:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 12000 @ 415.32
[2016-03-18 06:35:12] splash : BitEMEX_Wally: since u dont have fiat currency on bitmex, have u considered adding Nubits?
[2016-03-18 06:39:30] splash : it would be a way for u to avoid touching fiat, yet be able to offer an asset pegged to USD
[2016-03-18 06:40:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 230 @ 0.02567
[2016-03-18 06:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.02556
[2016-03-18 06:41:19] BitMEX_Arthur : How liquid is it
[2016-03-18 06:41:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 60 @ 0.02555
[2016-03-18 06:46:04] rapidtrades : shalom fellas
[2016-03-18 06:50:26] BitMEX_Arthur : For pseudo USD I think Tether is a better choice given its backed by Bitfinex's banking relationship in Taiwan which is pretty solid
[2016-03-18 07:06:47] rapidtrades : coins are now cheaper on chinese exchanges
[2016-03-18 07:07:52] rapidtrades : nvm looking at wrong exchange rate again
[2016-03-18 07:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02453
[2016-03-18 07:32:09] splash : BitMEX_Arthur: ok i undertand . sounds good
[2016-03-18 07:32:22] splash : are u plannin on it?
[2016-03-18 07:33:20] BitMEX_Arthur : We are investigating
[2016-03-18 08:57:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02454
[2016-03-18 09:06:36] micmix : no DPE on ETH and FCT, good job!
[2016-03-18 09:06:48] habibi : agree :)
[2016-03-18 09:07:10] habibi : and probally all time high on insurance fund! :) https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceHistory
[2016-03-18 09:08:49] micmix : 17 coins is not a lot, open value for H16 and M16 is over 2k coins
[2016-03-18 09:09:23] habibi : we use to talk about 5btc at insurance fund got wiped by some liquidation or 7 in past
[2016-03-18 09:12:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02450
[2016-03-18 09:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.00383
[2016-03-18 09:17:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 14 @ 0.00377
[2016-03-18 09:17:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.02417
[2016-03-18 09:18:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00374
[2016-03-18 09:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.02406
[2016-03-18 09:19:39] micmix : nice dump, just in time for the settlement
[2016-03-18 09:51:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 60 @ 0.02357
[2016-03-18 09:54:11] elmorte : micmix: word
[2016-03-18 09:54:21] elmorte : Don't go long again!
[2016-03-18 09:54:59] chromaticcr : * 0.03 is the new floor*
[2016-03-18 09:55:28] elmorte : * ?
[2016-03-18 09:55:41] elmorte : eh...I meant * ?
[2016-03-18 09:56:16] chromaticcr : Just wanna quote sone good old trollbox comment on eth price
[2016-03-18 09:56:23] elmorte : Hahaha
[2016-03-18 09:56:38] chromaticcr : Failed on formatting
[2016-03-18 09:56:44] elmorte : Ehhh...hindsight n all that...
[2016-03-18 09:57:04] elmorte : No worries, I thought it was a footnote sign
[2016-03-18 09:57:24] chromaticcr : #REKTom
[2016-03-18 09:58:11] chromaticcr : We should really make an altcoin named this and see how far it could go
[2016-03-18 09:59:13] chromaticcr : Perhaps arthur will take this as the coin officialy for insurance fund, who knows!
[2016-03-18 10:00:11] elmorte : Good luck to all of us then!
[2016-03-18 10:00:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 2 @ 414.39 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 10:01:26] elmorte : BitMEX - insured by REKTom. 9/10 proctologists approve
[2016-03-18 10:02:16] elmorte : The 1/10 is rapid :)
[2016-03-18 10:08:05] elmorte : micmix: can you post the link for the bot smileys plz? Didn't save it last time as I only had a limited range of emotions
[2016-03-18 10:21:33] NukeLaloosh : I thought the mark price on was the last trade on polo, no? I'm showing 2313 here and 2280 on polo
[2016-03-18 10:21:39] NukeLaloosh : ...for ETH
[2016-03-18 10:21:51] BitMEX_Arthur : NukeLaloosh: It's the settlement window
[2016-03-18 10:22:10] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBT2H
[2016-03-18 10:22:21] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Arthur: i do realize that. So is mark price the running average now in the window?
[2016-03-18 10:22:31] elmorte : I believe so
[2016-03-18 10:22:33] BitMEX_Arthur : Correct
[2016-03-18 10:22:38] NukeLaloosh : thanks
[2016-03-18 10:27:02] NukeLaloosh : is there a way to get a current mark price without an open position?
[2016-03-18 10:27:19] elmorte : It's under the last price
[2016-03-18 10:27:40] elmorte : to the left of the i 0.00%
[2016-03-18 10:28:14] elmorte : in the orderbook
[2016-03-18 10:28:44] NukeLaloosh : i see it now. in the header next to spot. didn't notice before. cheers @elmorte
[2016-03-18 10:29:06] elmorte : No, that's not the one
[2016-03-18 10:29:17] elmorte : That's just the last transacted price
[2016-03-18 10:29:22] elmorte : Look in the orderbook
[2016-03-18 10:29:40] elmorte : 0.02291 currntly
[2016-03-18 10:30:19] NukeLaloosh : i just see the bid/ask there (2203 x 2404
[2016-03-18 10:30:43] NukeLaloosh : i have the orderbook module fairly small, maybe that's it?
[2016-03-18 10:31:06] NukeLaloosh : nope
[2016-03-18 10:31:09] elmorte : Maybe...I think I'm on basic interface and ask is above bid (not to the side)
[2016-03-18 10:31:16] NukeLaloosh : waht's mark right now?
[2016-03-18 10:31:21] elmorte : 2287
[2016-03-18 10:31:21] NukeLaloosh : 2312?
[2016-03-18 10:31:29] NukeLaloosh : wth haha
[2016-03-18 10:31:30] elmorte : 2312 is the last price
[2016-03-18 10:31:59] elmorte : You can also see the mark price in Closed Positions
[2016-03-18 10:32:12] NukeLaloosh : in the header i'm showing xbt spot eth spot 2229 and eth7d 2312
[2016-03-18 10:32:26] NukeLaloosh : ah there you go
[2016-03-18 10:32:31] elmorte : :)
[2016-03-18 10:32:32] NukeLaloosh : that works. thank you sir
[2016-03-18 11:08:09] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: I have changed the low/high price range to be calculated over the last 24 hours rather than the current session. Currently live in testnet
[2016-03-18 11:29:21] elmorte : Cheers
[2016-03-18 11:33:08] messiaen8844 : BitMex: man we need 50x ETH 24h ;)
[2016-03-18 11:33:58] ett1 : First time here, Can positions be rolled over immediately at expiration?
[2016-03-18 11:35:10] sleger : if you're quick with the mouse maybe
[2016-03-18 11:35:57] ett1 : Thats fine, so there's no time delay between expiry and the new contract being available. Cheers
[2016-03-18 11:36:04] sleger : few secs
[2016-03-18 11:36:23] j8 : ett1: there's no autoroll or anything like that, but you can start trading the daily roll `XBT48H` already
[2016-03-18 11:36:31] BitMEX_Arthur : ett1: We will be listing a way to roll between the daily and two day contract in one trade son
[2016-03-18 11:36:32] BitMEX_Arthur : soon
[2016-03-18 11:36:34] BitMEX_Arthur : called a calendar spread
[2016-03-18 11:40:39] j8 : that's cool, any way it can source liquidity from the two contracts? or is it left to the bots.
[2016-03-18 11:41:35] BitMEX_Arthur : for now left to bots, our main mm will quote on it once it's up, but we will add the logic to import liquidity from the outrights
[2016-03-18 11:43:26] j8 : that would be a pretty big deal imho. i guess it requires an atomic transaction that does two trades on different contracts?
[2016-03-18 11:47:54] BitMEX_Arthur : Wally can do it, we will see the take up on the calendar spread once it lists and prioritise accordingly
[2016-03-18 11:51:18] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, and when trading the calendar spread you only pay fees on the back month leg
[2016-03-18 11:51:42] j8 : first in the industry anyway. would be awesome for quarterly spreads
[2016-03-18 11:59:05] j8 : getting a weird notification when a post-only order is rejected: `Order could not be submitted: C.default.prototype.convertCurrency is not a function`
[2016-03-18 12:01:24] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure if that is related to post-only. Could you refresh and try again?
[2016-03-18 12:02:07] justinlooking : oh look sep
[2016-03-18 12:02:31] NukeLaloosh : are we in the new ETH7D?
[2016-03-18 12:03:32] NukeLaloosh : nevermind :)
[2016-03-18 12:03:34] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: i refreshed, still happening
[2016-03-18 12:04:39] BitMEX_Wally : j8: ok I have recreated
[2016-03-18 12:05:03] BitMEX_Wally : it works via the API which is how market makers use it
[2016-03-18 12:05:09] BitMEX_Wally : but broken via the frontend
[2016-03-18 12:05:12] j8 : i see
[2016-03-18 12:05:37] BitMEX_Wally : We will fix it today
[2016-03-18 12:31:22] arbitrage001 : london bridge is falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:26] arbitrage001 : falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:30] arbitrage001 : falling down
[2016-03-18 12:31:39] arbitrage001 : opps
[2016-03-18 12:33:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 3289 @ 0.02126
[2016-03-18 12:37:24] j8 : ouch, only 33 minutes into trading
[2016-03-18 12:40:24] splash : what happened to the eth bulls?
[2016-03-18 12:40:38] habibi : splash: seems they didnt listen to ur great idea :)
[2016-03-18 12:40:50] splash : lol
[2016-03-18 12:40:58] splash : yes i was wrong about price going up
[2016-03-18 12:41:26] splash : im a shity trader. what can i say
[2016-03-18 12:41:57] habibi : splash: nah :) join us on https://www.stakepool.com/connect/teamspeak
[2016-03-18 12:43:00] splash : thanks for the invite.
[2016-03-18 12:43:14] splash : if people just do the oppspite of what i do they will be allright
[2016-03-18 12:44:03] Mangalica : 3.5k BTC wall at 0.02
[2016-03-18 12:44:32] Mangalica : not doing much for ask side volume
[2016-03-18 12:44:59] habibi : Mangalica: its fugazi !:)
[2016-03-18 12:45:07] Mangalica : i wouldn't be surprised if a scared whale took it as an invitation to get out
[2016-03-18 12:45:15] Mangalica : are you Pysek?
[2016-03-18 12:45:21] habibi : its our already :) yeas
[2016-03-18 12:47:07] Mangalica : if i had endless money i'd place a 500 BTC market order just to spike up to 0.024 and fuck everyone
[2016-03-18 12:54:45] viptrader : SELL ETH
[2016-03-18 12:59:31] Mangalica : i already sold most above 0.03 :(
[2016-03-18 13:00:21] elmorte : lol
[2016-03-18 13:03:39] Mangalica : i actually rethought a small amount for a potential bounce to 23
[2016-03-18 13:03:45] Mangalica : rebought
[2016-03-18 13:05:07] Mangalica : ayy
[2016-03-18 13:06:02] Mangalica : that was quick
[2016-03-18 13:16:06] arbitrage001 : any asset falling this sharp hardly ever recover
[2016-03-18 13:16:17] arbitrage001 : bitcoin is an exception
[2016-03-18 13:16:33] sleger : all shitcoins dying ?
[2016-03-18 13:16:44] arbitrage001 : sleger: yup
[2016-03-18 13:18:14] arbitrage001 : 20% drop in one day
[2016-03-18 13:20:16] sleger : we need a 10% rebound so the believers give us even more money when it finally does -99%
[2016-03-18 13:20:43] arbitrage001 : hah
[2016-03-18 13:20:56] arbitrage001 : but i am balless to short
[2016-03-18 13:24:49] sleger : I had a small short but the settlement just killed it
[2016-03-18 13:54:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 66 @ 0.00395
[2016-03-18 13:56:27] Bauer : Hey! any mod or admin here?
[2016-03-18 13:57:11] sleger : Bauer: hey Jack !
[2016-03-18 13:57:23] sleger : how was your day ?
[2016-03-18 13:58:28] rapidtrades : the real Jack Bauer?
[2016-03-18 13:59:49] Bauer : sleger: Hey! Fine actually. Its friday so no complaints. Hows yours?
[2016-03-18 13:59:55] Bauer : rapidtrades: Real deal =D
[2016-03-18 14:00:30] Bauer : Has there been delays with withdrawals today?
[2016-03-18 14:00:37] rapidtrades : Bauer: hey....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Bauer
[2016-03-18 14:00:48] rapidtrades : says u aint real?
[2016-03-18 14:01:07] Bauer : rapidtrades: Dont belive the truth
[2016-03-18 14:03:19] Bauer : Seems that there was some slownes in withdrawals but all good now =) New here so i might be a bit "jumpy" so to say
[2016-03-18 14:07:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.02244
[2016-03-18 14:12:05] BitMEX_Wally : Bauer: Sorry for the delay, all withdrawals have to be processed manually by 2 partners
[2016-03-18 14:14:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.02307 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 14:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6 @ 0.02314
[2016-03-18 14:22:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 479 @ 0.02269
[2016-03-18 14:40:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 100 @ 464.45
[2016-03-18 14:41:10] habibi : wow september contracts
[2016-03-18 14:41:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 21 @ 412.11
[2016-03-18 14:42:30] 1z6 : BitMEX_Sam: ": XBTU16" showing for new sept contract
[2016-03-18 14:43:18] rapidtrades : wow u smaht
[2016-03-18 14:43:40] sleger : smaht ? is it like shure ?
[2016-03-18 14:44:09] rapidtrades : yes it is jew, yes it is
[2016-03-18 14:45:27] BitMEX_Wally : 1z6: `XBTU16` is the ticker. Are we showing the ticker somewhere we shouldn't?
[2016-03-18 14:45:42] 1z6 : in the sidebar
[2016-03-18 14:47:50] BitMEX_Wally : 1z6: Not sure what you mean
[2016-03-18 14:48:09] sleger : i think he might be confusing the U for the hedging contract ?
[2016-03-18 14:50:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.02385
[2016-03-18 14:50:27] arbitrage001 : XBTU16 is the september right?
[2016-03-18 14:50:44] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-03-18 14:50:51] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: ok thank you
[2016-03-18 14:51:14] arbitrage001 : volume still qquite low
[2016-03-18 14:51:32] BitMEX_Wally : Just listed today: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTU16
[2016-03-18 14:52:52] habibi : doom inc?
[2016-03-18 14:52:57] habibi : rapidtrades:^^
[2016-03-18 14:54:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 106 @ 409.92
[2016-03-18 14:54:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 932 @ 409.37
[2016-03-18 14:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 756 @ 407.96
[2016-03-18 15:00:15] 1z6 : ignore me
[2016-03-18 15:00:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02401
[2016-03-18 15:00:21] 1z6 : its correct
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 407.72
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-03-18 15:01:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3700 @ 456.05
[2016-03-18 15:01:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 407.61
[2016-03-18 15:02:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 1980 @ 408.74
[2016-03-18 15:02:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 150 @ 407.54
[2016-03-18 15:02:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 838 @ 408.60
[2016-03-18 15:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.02496
[2016-03-18 15:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.02484
[2016-03-18 15:48:37] rapidtrades : you'd think we get a rally on the back of ETH demise...guess not
[2016-03-18 15:49:04] habibi : funny to watch these market today :)
[2016-03-18 15:49:06] rapidtrades : maybe founders now cashing out eth-btc-usd
[2016-03-18 15:49:10] habibi : trollbox even more fun
[2016-03-18 15:50:43] chromaticcr1 : "meow", says ether
[2016-03-18 15:55:39] rapidtrades : ''why are rates so low''
[2016-03-18 15:55:51] rapidtrades : ''what's up with ether guys is everyone selling''
[2016-03-18 15:56:39] habibi : i love how they buying when total buy orders is high, they take so much attention to so simple manipulation
[2016-03-18 15:57:45] rapidtrades : they're prolly buy on every dip, just like they did previously
[2016-03-18 15:57:54] rapidtrades : only the last time it wont come back :)
[2016-03-18 15:58:10] habibi : they got a nice beating yday buying "dip" at 0.025
[2016-03-18 15:58:40] rapidtrades : how low did u go
[2016-03-18 15:59:21] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: saw 8.7 usd
[2016-03-18 15:59:29] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: now back to 10 usd
[2016-03-18 15:59:46] viptrader : ETH to the mooooooon
[2016-03-18 15:59:49] viptrader : buy buy buy buy
[2016-03-18 16:00:05] arbitrage001 : dont know how someone can sleep well holding eth
[2016-03-18 16:00:26] habibi : can someone ban this very important trader?
[2016-03-18 16:00:45] rapidtrades : everything's going down today
[2016-03-18 16:01:18] viptrader : up to 0.04 we go
[2016-03-18 16:01:58] rapidtrades : only 2 out of the top 20 coins are up today http://coinmarketcap.com/
[2016-03-18 16:02:44] habibi : black friday :)
[2016-03-18 16:04:08] rapidtrades : smth is brewing that's for sure
[2016-03-18 16:07:42] rapidtrades : anyone running multiple systems or strategies?
[2016-03-18 16:08:27] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: cash and carry still most profitable
[2016-03-18 16:09:31] rapidtrades : yeah it will be until u get clawed
[2016-03-18 16:09:43] rapidtrades : that's not what i asked
[2016-03-18 16:09:46] arbitrage001 : all methods have risk
[2016-03-18 16:10:28] rapidtrades : and that method has unspecified risk
[2016-03-18 16:11:38] rapidtrades : so it's not really the ''most profitable'' until u know the risk side of the equation
[2016-03-18 16:14:42] sleger : rapidtrades: i thought you've been doing that too ? (cash and carry)
[2016-03-18 16:15:12] rapidtrades : very small, testing amounts
[2016-03-18 16:16:15] rapidtrades : not saying its a bad idea, just don't know how to price the risk yet
[2016-03-18 16:16:49] sleger : there are historical data as to how high the premium went - that is the risk (based on historical data)
[2016-03-18 16:17:15] sleger : and for xbt24H that was around 60$ premium I believe (or almost 20% for <24h)
[2016-03-18 16:18:21] j8 : what are you talking about
[2016-03-18 16:20:31] sleger : max premium on 24h
[2016-03-18 16:22:23] j8 : yeah but that's just one factor in the clawback risk
[2016-03-18 16:22:57] sleger : we werent talking about clawback risk
[2016-03-18 16:23:05] sleger : just cash and carry arb in general
[2016-03-18 16:23:38] j8 : i thought that was the unspecified risk rapidtrades was referring to
[2016-03-18 16:23:40] sleger : i agree there are other risks than the actual premium though
[2016-03-18 16:24:07] sleger : yes there are many other risks : clawback as you say, exchange default risk etc...
[2016-03-18 17:21:13] splash : this one is fun https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/new/
[2016-03-18 17:21:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 420 @ 0.02371
[2016-03-18 17:38:35] mpkomara : GOOD AFTERNOON HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 17:57:00] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 950 @ 407.22
[2016-03-18 17:58:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT48H`: Sell 7000 @ 407.03
[2016-03-18 18:24:01] zanza : ETH and XBT down in the same day? there goes that theory
[2016-03-18 18:24:37] troymcclure : exactly my thoughts and ive not even been here when i saw this is going to happen
[2016-03-18 18:35:23] mpkomara : R I P B T C HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 18:35:39] BitMEX_Sam : We got ourselves a skeeter here
[2016-03-18 18:44:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 3 @ 452.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-18 18:59:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 14950 @ 452.08
[2016-03-18 19:09:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 50 @ 452.03
[2016-03-18 19:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 200 @ 405.72
[2016-03-18 19:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 405.74
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 8400 @ 441.90
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 2000 @ 447.23
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 10 @ 447.48
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 10000 @ 439.53
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 4700 @ 439.40
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 4500 @ 440.23
[2016-03-18 19:19:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM16`: Sell 1000 @ 448.45
[2016-03-18 19:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5721 @ 404.50
[2016-03-18 19:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT7D`: Sell 400 @ 405.35
[2016-03-18 19:42:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 5 @ 403.44
[2016-03-18 19:54:42] annon : Did the trollbox die, or is everyone just very quiet?
[2016-03-18 19:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : Just quiet
[2016-03-18 19:55:26] BitMEX_Sam : Fits & spurts of activity
[2016-03-18 19:55:54] annon : right
[2016-03-18 19:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll be in and out the rest of the day today - enjoy the volatility, everyone
[2016-03-18 20:18:12] viptrader : hi guys
[2016-03-18 20:18:17] viptrader : if i use cross
[2016-03-18 20:18:23] viptrader : it means im not using leverage?
[2016-03-18 20:18:50] thehawthorne : LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[2016-03-18 20:19:00] viptrader : im new
[2016-03-18 20:19:02] viptrader : so please help
[2016-03-18 20:19:26] thehawthorne : if you are new don't use leverage
[2016-03-18 20:19:48] thehawthorne : you can use 100x leverage
[2016-03-18 20:19:59] thehawthorne : you should use less
[2016-03-18 20:20:14] viptrader : thehawthorne: but what is the cross means
[2016-03-18 20:23:00] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 100 @ 406.42
[2016-03-18 20:23:13] mpkomara : MAX AND RELAX LAND LUBBERS! HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:31:37] viptrader : cross means u r not using leverage?
[2016-03-18 20:32:12] mpkomara : CROSS = RIDIN SPINNERS HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:32:43] mpkomara : RIDE SHADOWFAX
[2016-03-18 20:33:32] viptrader : mpkomara: please explain
[2016-03-18 20:34:58] mpkomara : Does my text English can be muddled with native speaker English, or it is clear for you just by language, that i am not native-speaker?
[2016-03-18 20:35:09] annon : viptrader: Cross margin means that you use all your coins in the bitmex account to back the margin position
[2016-03-18 20:36:05] annon : viptrader: Without cross the position only uses the amount you initially (or later) add to it. Not sure exactly how that works, I usually use cross.
[2016-03-18 20:36:23] sleger : viptrader: if you are new, why are you a "viptrader" ?
[2016-03-18 20:36:58] mpkomara : HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 20:37:01] annon : Without cross it used to be so that you opened the position with maximum leverage, so if the price went against you you got immediately margin called. I think they changed that somehow though.
[2016-03-18 20:37:36] annon : Anyhow, you should look at the FAQ and docs and do your due diligence, and not trust the people in the Trollbox...
[2016-03-18 20:38:02] annon : (Other than the ones with names starting with BitMEX_ )
[2016-03-18 20:39:49] annon : Also, ignore the trolls.
[2016-03-18 20:41:09] rapidtrades : good evening jews
[2016-03-18 20:52:25] habibi : annon: kinda trollcepction, telling troll from polo to ignore other trolls
[2016-03-18 21:17:07] annon : He was a troll? I just assumed he was a noob.
[2016-03-18 21:18:09] annon : Anyway, cross margin is somewhat specific to BitMEX
[2016-03-18 21:18:32] annon : So expected to cause questions.
[2016-03-18 21:19:09] habibi : okc has cross option as well, kinda typical for futures
[2016-03-18 21:31:59] sleger : even bitfinex uses cross margin, this guy doesnt know what he's talking about, one more...
[2016-03-18 21:32:59] habibi : sleger: whats ur net position?
[2016-03-18 21:35:15] rapidtrades : sleger: not exactly, finex DOESN'T HAVE isolated margin, that's different
[2016-03-18 21:35:32] sleger : rapidtrades: it uses cross margin
[2016-03-18 21:35:41] sleger : what i said was correct
[2016-03-18 21:35:48] rapidtrades : technically yes
[2016-03-18 21:36:09] sleger : it was just a response to "annon: Anyway, cross margin is somewhat specific to BitMEX"
[2016-03-18 21:46:59] micmix : XBTU16 fair basis rate only 49%, kinda low
[2016-03-18 21:48:51] habibi : micmix: how about weekly okc price and big amount of contracts ?
[2016-03-18 21:50:08] mpkomara : time to load the BOAT HONK HONK
[2016-03-18 21:53:25] rapidtrades : dam ok june only $7 premium
[2016-03-18 21:53:32] rapidtrades : weekly at discount
[2016-03-18 21:53:36] micmix : okc top looks good, 38k coins. dropped a bit when weekly closed but still much higher than 22k-24k in beginning of March
[2016-03-18 21:56:53] annon : My point was that few cryptocurrency exchanges offer the option of selecting isolated or cross margin
[2016-03-18 21:57:14] rapidtrades : annon: this is a futures platform not an exchang
[2016-03-18 21:57:21] rapidtrades : btc in/ btc out
[2016-03-18 21:59:24] habibi : futures exchange according to welcome bitmex page
[2016-03-18 22:03:07] rapidtrades : everyone flat?
[2016-03-18 22:11:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 6057 @ 407.76
[2016-03-18 22:17:52] micmix : where is that tulip guy who was trying to sell his bot here? haven't seen him around lately
[2016-03-18 22:19:37] habibi : i bet he got another 30% loss out of nowhere and he is trying to figure it out how it happened
[2016-03-18 22:21:30] rapidtrades : whenever smone says I don't know how my bot trades, it's time to run...at least he was honest unlike 99% of bot sellers out there
[2016-03-18 22:22:45] Mangalica : "i don't know how my bot trades" sounds great
[2016-03-18 22:23:19] habibi : that's literally what he said? :D
[2016-03-18 22:24:26] rapidtrades : well I'm paraphrasing but yeah...he had no idea how the bot comes up with the signals nor where to exit ahead of time
[2016-03-18 22:25:15] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised if the profits came from using large or non-existent stop
[2016-03-18 22:25:49] rapidtrades : would be consistent with profits every day for a month then 30% loss pattern
[2016-03-18 22:26:41] micmix : I think he said that he knows how his bot makes money but he couldn't figure out where that 30% sudden loss comes from
[2016-03-18 22:27:39] micmix : I don't remember exactly but that's the impression I got. Also he didn't want to give a trial version to sleger for test run
[2016-03-18 22:27:52] j8 : to be fair probably a lot of good bots don't give a good explanation for their action, other than stats says so
[2016-03-18 22:27:58] rapidtrades : I doubt that, i remember him saying he doesn't know his risk because the bot doesn't come up with stops ahead of time
[2016-03-18 22:28:11] rapidtrades : that was to micmix :)
[2016-03-18 22:28:20] j8 : but yeah he basically refused to do risk management
[2016-03-18 22:29:32] rapidtrades : arrogant lil bugger he was...
[2016-03-18 22:29:43] micmix : yes, I understand that models can be complex enough that you can't say why the bot is buying/selling at this particular time, but 30% sudden loss has to be investigated in any case
[2016-03-18 22:30:25] micmix : no risk management is kinda scary :-)
[2016-03-18 22:30:29] Mangalica : i've see trading "strategies" like that on sites where only CLOSED positions are shown. The bot essentially took profit where it could and let losers run.
[2016-03-18 22:30:45] rapidtrades : Mangalica: yeah that's one of the scams
[2016-03-18 22:30:57] Mangalica : looked like (suspiciously) consistent returns from the outside, until it collapsed
[2016-03-18 22:31:26] rapidtrades : anything that makes money 90% of the time will eventually eat a large loss...there's no way around it
[2016-03-18 22:32:11] rapidtrades : 90% winning trades*
[2016-03-18 22:33:22] micmix : well good MM can make money 90% of the time but it doesn't have 90% winning trades
[2016-03-18 22:33:39] rapidtrades : well yeah, that's why i corrected myself :)
[2016-03-18 22:35:12] rapidtrades : if ur looking at a statement and u see +90% wins and u don't see any large losses, that's a major red flag
[2016-03-18 22:55:10] Skuffone : When are withdrawals processed?
[2016-03-18 22:57:41] habibi : Skuffone: what was first, egg or chicken?
[2016-03-18 22:58:31] Skuffone : Well I have been waiting 24h now
[2016-03-18 22:59:45] rapidtrades : Skuffone: did u confirm by email
[2016-03-18 22:59:49] habibi : i bet u did nt confirm
[2016-03-18 23:00:05] Skuffone : Yep
[2016-03-18 23:00:23] rapidtrades : Skuffone: did u check the blockchain? these are super special transactions
[2016-03-18 23:00:30] rapidtrades : super slooow
[2016-03-18 23:02:05] Skuffone : Yeah didn't get a hash
[2016-03-18 23:02:52] Skuffone : Thanks - I have reprocessed
[2016-03-18 23:03:08] Skuffone : I think it must have not been conformed
[2016-03-18 23:03:46] habibi : Skuffone: so withdraws are made once a day at 13.00 utc
[2016-03-18 23:05:22] Skuffone : Cool over night then for me .I got a withdrawal confirmed
[2016-03-18 23:05:31] Skuffone : emal this time
[2016-03-18 23:08:46] habibi : Skuffone: and egg was first btw
[2016-03-18 23:40:17] rapidtrades : u guys think a crisis is coming? is zerohedge right?
[2016-03-18 23:42:16] sleger : according to zerohedge a crisis is coming since 2010
[2016-03-19 00:12:08] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-stop-orders-bitcoin/
[2016-03-19 00:13:16] rapidtrades : it's a bit hilarious how late some exchanges implemented stops....btc-e had them years ago
[2016-03-19 00:19:16] micmix : maybe they didn't have enough liquidity to do stops without major slippage. their tech team is quite competent
[2016-03-19 00:33:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.00383 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-19 02:06:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1297 @ 0.02531
[2016-03-19 02:34:50] messiaen8844 : maybe stop orders problem was related to cold-hot storage, they need enough coins on hot wallet to make it work I think
[2016-03-19 02:41:15] j8 : it's an order type on the exchange, has nothing to do with wallets until someone wants to withdraw
[2016-03-19 04:08:08] bitbanker : Spot Price $400.00 Weekly Futures $395.00
[2016-03-19 04:09:06] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Where are you getting your data? .XBT is at 407.09 and XBT7D is at 408.23
[2016-03-19 04:10:03] bitbanker : why is that
[2016-03-19 04:11:12] mpkomara : LOL
[2016-03-19 04:12:38] bitbanker : no I was asking because I read this online on how to trade I had a few questions
[2016-03-19 04:15:53] bitbanker : Spot Price in $411.03 at an exchanger if I sell at 407.09 will be in profit at $3.94
[2016-03-19 04:16:20] bitbanker : i just had a question that's all
[2016-03-19 04:17:12] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: If you sell a future at 407.09 when spot is at 411.03 then that is a theoretical loss
[2016-03-19 04:18:20] BitMEX_Wally : Your profit/loss is determined by the price where you exit, either by closing the position or waiting until settlement
[2016-03-19 04:18:59] bitbanker : ok hild pleae let take all that in.lol
[2016-03-19 04:27:28] bitbanker : let me sell that again i sell at 407.09 buy at 400.00 is that a gain of $7.09
[2016-03-19 04:28:14] bitbanker : i think i got it
[2016-03-19 04:28:54] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, buy low, sell high :)
[2016-03-19 04:29:44] bitbanker : ok i understood it i just rote it wrong but thank you very very much and have a nice day bye
[2016-03-19 05:01:56] bitbanker : if i buy the XBT at 407.09 and sell XBT7D 408.23 will i profit 1.14 just to make sure i got everything correct
[2016-03-19 05:03:05] BitMEX_Wally : bitbanker: Yes, and be aware of trading fees for both exchanges, etc.
[2016-03-19 05:03:29] bitbanker : ok well thankz see ya
[2016-03-19 05:09:43] dmbtmxdm : is there any way I can demo bitmex?
[2016-03-19 05:25:22] zanza : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-03-19 06:00:34] vbmithr : You can even use Sierra Chart to demo bitmex _through_ Sierra Chart :)
[2016-03-19 06:25:53] micmix : FCT is not doing well, I'm like a half of the open interest :-)
[2016-03-19 07:56:57] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-03-19 07:57:16] ayy_lmao : rip my username, _ turned me to green
[2016-03-19 08:34:12] stevelim : ETH pump coming soon?
[2016-03-19 08:45:22] uiop : stevelim: "and dump"
[2016-03-19 08:49:52] stevelim : yep, but pump first
[2016-03-19 08:58:25] stevelim : 0.027 might be the last hope for the bears.
[2016-03-19 08:59:49] rapidtrades : micmix: u trading with ur own monies now?
[2016-03-19 09:04:52] micmix : rapidtrades: no, why?
[2016-03-19 09:49:05] rapidtrades : micmix: well goldman pulled out no?