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[2016-03-14 13:38:18] jung1 : so it works
[2016-03-14 13:38:28] jung1 : you will
[2016-03-14 13:38:41] jung1 : but its same as bitcoin back in '11 -'12 now
[2016-03-14 13:38:53] jung1 : with all the altcoins based on bitcoin and litecoin
[2016-03-14 13:39:04] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: you made my day ROFL
[2016-03-14 13:39:09] jung1 : but eth have much more features and its easier
[2016-03-14 13:39:22] habibi : The ever increasing price of ETH seems to be a major danger to Ethereum, as it will/would be cheaper to run on a ethereum clone
[2016-03-14 13:39:32] habibi : quoted from post
[2016-03-14 13:39:45] jung1 : yes it is
[2016-03-14 13:39:57] jung1 : but we will see what future brings
[2016-03-14 13:39:57] habibi : aka high value is not helping this tech at all in case of actual use
[2016-03-14 13:40:16] jung1 : agree
[2016-03-14 13:40:25] jung1 : but bubbles are good also
[2016-03-14 13:40:57] jung1 : its new one and we cant compare it with anything
[2016-03-14 13:41:04] jung1 : so a lot of things could go wrong
[2016-03-14 13:41:19] jung1 : but its cool to watch it how it's born
[2016-03-14 13:41:24] jung1 : 2y ago was just a concept
[2016-03-14 13:41:32] jung1 : and now its worth over 1bln $
[2016-03-14 13:44:29] jung1 : btw ETH/CNY market https://trans.chbtc.com/eth
[2016-03-14 13:44:39] jung1 : happy PI day 3.14
[2016-03-14 13:48:40] sleger : 9 posts in a row again... should be a limit to that, spammer
[2016-03-14 13:54:34] jung1 : dude I found a solution for you. you have to go in right upper cornet of this window, click on your nick, then "log off" and next open window in your basement and throw your laptop
[2016-03-14 13:54:40] jung1 : let me know if it will help
[2016-03-14 13:54:41] jung1 : cheers
[2016-03-14 13:56:48] chromaticcr1 : The best part: The fuel is indefinitely mine-able. Sounds like DOGECOIN! MUCH WOW
[2016-03-14 14:00:54] rapidtrades : MM are really f*cking with the Euro today
[2016-03-14 14:01:02] jung1 : finex add eth today also
[2016-03-14 14:06:30] rapidtrades : well looks like options expired so hopefully this b1tch will drop like a rock now
[2016-03-14 14:07:37] jung1 : hope so
[2016-03-14 14:07:53] jung1 : but its not 100% it will
[2016-03-14 14:08:01] jung1 : eth cant into dump
[2016-03-14 14:08:20] zanza : Yuan dumped a bit too
[2016-03-14 14:08:28] rapidtrades : was talking about the Euro @jung1
[2016-03-14 14:08:38] jung1 : oh
[2016-03-14 14:08:53] jung1 : yeah thats also
[2016-03-14 14:08:59] zanza : yesterday was ATH peak ETH volume I think
[2016-03-14 14:09:15] jung1 : will be fun to short euro if uk, grece and czech will quit euro
[2016-03-14 14:09:19] zanza : 7x `XBT24H` volume
[2016-03-14 14:09:33] zanza : which proves most people here are just gamblers :)
[2016-03-14 14:10:00] zanza : looking for volatility
[2016-03-14 14:14:56] jung1 : and eth its good bet for bitcoin alternative
[2016-03-14 14:15:09] sleger : you mean altcoin now
[2016-03-14 14:15:32] jung1 : if we will stay above 1bln euro market cap it will be not another bubble
[2016-03-14 14:15:35] sleger : you learned the definition of a word you've been using a lot, use it when its right now
[2016-03-14 14:26:31] rapidtrades : man if forex didn't have 100x leverage it would be such a waste of time
[2016-03-14 14:26:54] rapidtrades : 0.3% move since london open, what a joke
[2016-03-14 14:27:19] rapidtrades : guess i should move to trading oil
[2016-03-14 14:27:23] rapidtrades : or ETH idk
[2016-03-14 14:28:35] rapidtrades : 1 day of extreme volatility and 21 days of nothing....that's forex these days
[2016-03-14 14:51:41] LR3NZ : eth looks dumpy
[2016-03-14 14:54:05] chromaticcr1 : BTC borrowers are having a great time: http://imgur.com/dqq2Ugm
[2016-03-14 14:54:50] sleger : chromaticcr1: are you "shure" ?
[2016-03-14 14:55:08] sleger : or just completely wrong ?
[2016-03-14 14:55:56] chromaticcr1 : I am *pretty* sure
[2016-03-14 14:56:23] chromaticcr1 : ;)
[2016-03-14 14:56:24] sleger : btc borrowers borrow btc to sell them and buy altcoins, so maybe you want to revise your logic
[2016-03-14 14:56:36] sleger : *pretty* wrong
[2016-03-14 14:57:24] zanza : jung1 ETh is more centralized than Bitcoin, and also it does not have a cap on amount created (inflation) so I do not see it as bitcoin alternative
[2016-03-14 14:58:09] zanza : at most, in the future it can have some potential for smart contracts/etc but we talking 5-10 years, and also ETh relies on Bitcoin to be successful. if Bitcoin fails ETH doesn't have a change either
[2016-03-14 14:58:32] zanza : chance* just `my opinions` of course
[2016-03-14 14:58:57] zanza : Bitcoin use case, its limited fixed supply which is attractive
[2016-03-14 15:02:59] S410520 : hi, how can I determine liquidation price on orders I set? I tried to make sure it was yesterday but could not check it and now I discover it wasnt enough... -.-
[2016-03-14 15:03:19] S410520 : while I had enough on my account
[2016-03-14 15:03:43] S410520 : I cannot continue trading without knowing the liquidation (stop) price when I set the order
[2016-03-14 15:05:49] BitMEX_Sam : S410520: At this time you cannot see the liquidation price before you execute, but you can calculate it
[2016-03-14 15:06:10] S410520 : if I can calculate it, why cant you?
[2016-03-14 15:06:18] BitMEX_Sam : If you are running on fixed margin (selected leverage on the sidebar), it is easy to calculate - if you are running on cross margin, it is more complex
[2016-03-14 15:06:29] BitMEX_Sam : S410520: It can be estimated but it depends on the slippage of the order
[2016-03-14 15:06:32] S410520 : so its easy but you cant show it
[2016-03-14 15:07:10] S410520 : yeah, I cant work with that, thanks
[2016-03-14 15:09:32] sleger : S410520: do bitfinex or 0kcoin show the liq price you will have before you take the position ?
[2016-03-14 15:10:04] S410520 : 16:06 - S410520: so its easy but you cant show it
[2016-03-14 15:10:14] BitMEX_Sam : Actually this is something we could do,
[2016-03-14 15:10:22] BitMEX_Sam : I don't really see any reason why not, let me talk to Wally about the exact calculations so we can get it in
[2016-03-14 15:11:07] S410520 : great, thanks for checking
[2016-03-14 15:11:57] elmorte : Whoo, lively in here
[2016-03-14 15:12:02] LR3NZ : eth looks pumpy
[2016-03-14 15:12:20] elmorte : Shouldn't judge on the looks alone
[2016-03-14 15:35:48] KingJohal : How do i go long eth
[2016-03-14 15:39:29] BitMEX_Arthur : KingJohal: Deposit Bitcoin, then buy `ETH7D`
[2016-03-14 15:39:35] BitMEX_Arthur : You don't need Ether
[2016-03-14 15:39:45] BitMEX_Wally : KingJohal: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETH7D
[2016-03-14 15:41:53] KingJohal : BitMEX_Wally: so if i want to go long what type of order do I select
[2016-03-14 15:42:14] KingJohal : Market?
[2016-03-14 15:43:51] BitMEX_Wally : A market order will execute a whatever price is available in the order book
[2016-03-14 15:44:02] BitMEX_Wally : If you want to go long more than 500 contracts then use a limit order
[2016-03-14 15:44:38] KingJohal : Where does it show payout
[2016-03-14 15:44:43] KingJohal : Order value?
[2016-03-14 15:45:34] BitMEX_Wally : If you buy 1 ETH7D at 0.03 and then sell it at 0.04 you make 0.01 Bitcoin
[2016-03-14 15:46:07] BitMEX_Wally : If you hold it until settlement all positions are closed at the settlement price
[2016-03-14 15:46:20] KingJohal : So what does limit price mean exactly?
[2016-03-14 15:46:26] KingJohal : The price i think it will hit
[2016-03-14 15:46:39] KingJohal : So i get paid
[2016-03-14 15:46:50] BitMEX_Wally : No, it means the limit on the price you want to buy at
[2016-03-14 15:46:54] BitMEX_Wally : To enter your position
[2016-03-14 15:54:21] rapidtrades : i f*Cking hate the Euro man
[2016-03-14 15:54:27] rapidtrades : JUST MOVE U SHIT...
[2016-03-14 15:55:15] rapidtrades : sitting here for hours, PnL moving up and down.....srsly get f*cked
[2016-03-14 15:55:55] chromaticcr1 : Mario need your overnight fee to support eurozone' economy
[2016-03-14 15:58:19] rapidtrades : this sack of shit man....they're just spiking it up and down like morons
[2016-03-14 15:58:35] rapidtrades : guess its banks filling orders on the back of retailers or smth
[2016-03-14 15:59:28] sleger : stop making stuff up lol
[2016-03-14 16:01:02] rapidtrades : well then just idiots trading in a 30 pips range whatever
[2016-03-14 16:02:13] rapidtrades : this is like watching 5 yrs olds trade
[2016-03-14 16:02:56] messiaen8844 : its called triangles rapid...
[2016-03-14 16:03:26] sleger : messiaen8844: what is called "triangles" ?
[2016-03-14 16:04:03] messiaen8844 : those spikes up and down ... probably triangles
[2016-03-14 16:04:31] sleger : no idea what you're saying
[2016-03-14 16:05:14] rapidtrades : he has a hardon fr triangles
[2016-03-14 16:05:17] rapidtrades : for*
[2016-03-14 16:05:38] messiaen8844 : read part of the conversating, maybe wrong context... thought he was saying price up and down (lower higs, higher lows)
[2016-03-14 16:06:02] sleger : he was saying its in a range that's all
[2016-03-14 16:06:10] sleger : a "30 pips" range
[2016-03-14 16:07:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 77 @ 0.03228
[2016-03-14 16:09:30] kingscrown : the big short https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/709408460652335105
[2016-03-14 16:29:52] tscha : eth7d 4x the volume of xbt24H
[2016-03-14 16:30:34] tscha : actually much more
[2016-03-14 16:45:12] rapidtrades : oh look 1.1100...let's buy
[2016-03-14 16:45:21] rapidtrades : who the f*ck trades like this
[2016-03-14 16:45:34] rapidtrades : the first 5-6-7 times i understand
[2016-03-14 16:45:45] rapidtrades : but all f day...same trade over and over?
[2016-03-14 16:46:17] rapidtrades : looks like a 5 yrs old got into this parents trading account
[2016-03-14 16:47:25] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: If you don't mind, please keep the chat on topic - we don't do forex here
[2016-03-14 16:48:44] rapidtrades : fair enough
[2016-03-14 16:49:18] rapidtrades : I'll post to brag if my TP is hit tho
[2016-03-14 16:49:31] drwoo : Why do you hate americans? i forgot to turn my VPN on when I said I was from mexico now I need to remake my account. :(
[2016-03-14 16:49:59] drwoo : that was a joke I know you dont hate americans
[2016-03-14 16:50:52] drwoo : I was hoping to donate money to the ETH/XBT market maker
[2016-03-14 16:57:07] BitMEX_Sam : drwoo: All accounts from the USA (and any accounts associated with them) must have deposits disabled due to the regulatory atmosphere in the USA
[2016-03-14 16:57:39] BitMEX_Sam : If you are actually in the US, you may not trade.
[2016-03-14 17:02:14] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: if I am going long on something lets say placing a limit order. How does this work? I set the limit at what price i want to pay per contract? How do i make money? If im going long how much does the contract have to increase in value? And how much does it have to decrease for me to lose
[2016-03-14 17:02:39] BitMEX_Sam : KingJohal: I would suggest doing an introductory trading lesson before you start here
[2016-03-14 17:02:55] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: where is that
[2016-03-14 17:02:55] BitMEX_Sam : I usually point new traders to http://www.babypips.com/
[2016-03-14 17:03:08] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: isnt that forex
[2016-03-14 17:03:08] BitMEX_Sam : The "School" section has some great introductory articles
[2016-03-14 17:03:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yes but most of the concepts translate
[2016-03-14 17:03:26] BitMEX_Sam : Especially the ones you're asking about
[2016-03-14 17:03:43] rapidtrades : oh i see....only u can post about forex
[2016-03-14 17:03:51] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: shit. Ok ill do that..
[2016-03-14 17:04:02] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: so is order value my payout
[2016-03-14 17:04:13] BitMEX_Sam : Order value is the actual value of the order you're placing, without leverage
[2016-03-14 17:04:33] BitMEX_Sam : That is, the value of the contracts you'd hold if the order filled
[2016-03-14 17:04:35] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: and my profit would be the cost - order value
[2016-03-14 17:04:41] KingJohal : If filled
[2016-03-14 17:04:42] BitMEX_Sam : No
[2016-03-14 17:04:48] BitMEX_Sam : Cost is how much margin it costs to open that order
[2016-03-14 17:05:01] BitMEX_Sam : Your profit/loss is the delta between your opening and closing price
[2016-03-14 17:05:06] BitMEX_Sam : multiplied by the value of the position
[2016-03-14 17:05:42] KingJohal : Lets say i place a long limit order on eth. I get 1000 contracts.
[2016-03-14 17:06:00] rapidtrades : don't
[2016-03-14 17:06:07] BitMEX_Sam : You should really run through that site
[2016-03-14 17:06:09] BitMEX_Sam : All will be made clear
[2016-03-14 17:06:21] KingJohal : BitMEX_Sam: okay i will
[2016-03-14 17:06:36] rapidtrades : KingJohal: just use 1 contart to test the orders out, yo
[2016-03-14 17:07:02] rapidtrades : open interest on ETH is only 8,000 right now
[2016-03-14 17:07:58] KingJohal : rapidtrades: im new with all this
[2016-03-14 17:08:31] KingJohal : rapidtrades: just trying to figure out how futures work n how shorting works
[2016-03-14 17:09:05] KingJohal : rapidtrades: very confused and this babypips site does not talk about futures at least i cant see
[2016-03-14 17:17:09] j8 : KingJohal: the ETH futures here are pretty simple because 1 contract is worth 1 ETH. so, your profit or loss is the same as if you were trading ETH.
[2016-03-14 17:18:25] j8 : (the other futures are a bit different so you should read the contract details.)
[2016-03-14 17:20:00] drwoo : but I live in the land of the free!!!
[2016-03-14 17:24:50] splash : KingJohal: if ur at the level where ur reading babypips, i got some good avice: start trading _with_ money, but trade with very _little_ money. always remember the worst enemy is yourself.
[2016-03-14 17:25:14] splash : you will think that it is the market that is the enemy, but the market is like the sea. you cant blame it for drowning
[2016-03-14 17:25:24] splash : that said, trading is fun great and super nice
[2016-03-14 17:31:53] j8 : custom widgets.. amazing
[2016-03-14 17:32:34] BitMEX_Sam : Long, long time coming
[2016-03-14 17:32:39] BitMEX_Sam : Very happy we finally hit launch
[2016-03-14 17:34:20] BitMEX_Sam : We also now automatically layer the underlying index on the chart
[2016-03-14 17:34:40] BitMEX_Sam : So you can see the futures price relative to the underlying price (e.g. .ETHXBT on Polo) over time
[2016-03-14 17:35:03] j8 : cool is it the indicativeSettlePrice?
[2016-03-14 17:35:31] j8 : or always the index
[2016-03-14 17:36:49] BitMEX_Sam : It's the index
[2016-03-14 17:42:54] Teddy76 : great job Sam, very usefull :D
[2016-03-14 17:43:16] BitMEX_Wally : The indicativeSettlePrice is the same as the index price except during the TWAP calculation period before expiry
[2016-03-14 17:44:23] habibi : competition for the best custom ui started! winner will be the one who will be able to move order placement tab to mid site :)
[2016-03-14 17:44:57] habibi : anyway nice job BitMEX_guys with that :)
[2016-03-14 17:47:50] rapidtrades : finally, tp hit
[2016-03-14 17:48:00] rapidtrades : the hardest 50 pips in ages man...torture
[2016-03-14 17:48:51] habibi : rapidtrades: what u think http://scr.hu/9xvi/vqetp ?
[2016-03-14 17:49:22] rapidtrades : dude...why can't u use normal sites like img or smth
[2016-03-14 17:50:19] habibi : its legit man, wouldnt try so many times to scam people here without getting banned
[2016-03-14 17:54:55] rapidtrades : i'm not doubting you, I'm doubting the shady site
[2016-03-14 18:22:58] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: "the only customizable trading dashboard on any crypto exchange" - very nice, thanks!
[2016-03-14 18:23:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Enjoy :)
[2016-03-14 18:23:35] cryptokeeper : nice changes guys
[2016-03-14 18:23:38] cryptokeeper : keep it up!
[2016-03-14 18:24:19] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: how do I remove the chart now so it doesn't load?
[2016-03-14 18:24:53] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes - I will push another update specifically for the chart, since it is so heavy
[2016-03-14 18:25:14] tscha : really nice change, that's exactly what was needed @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-03-14 18:25:24] tscha : But now everything is a little bit blurry
[2016-03-14 18:27:15] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: could you please fix this small bug: Buys/Sells summary shows prices with only 2 decimals on the Orders tab for ETH and FCT
[2016-03-14 18:27:38] tscha : @blur issue: http://i.imgur.com/r0qDcLX.png
[2016-03-14 18:27:57] micmix : I mean average Buys/Sells price, first two rows
[2016-03-14 18:29:25] micmix : tscha: chrome on Windows?
[2016-03-14 18:29:30] tscha : yes
[2016-03-14 18:30:20] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, I think I have an idea why that would be
[2016-03-14 18:30:30] micmix : yeah, chrome uses custom text rendering, doesn't work so well on high DPI
[2016-03-14 18:30:52] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Retina / 2x display or unscaled?
[2016-03-14 18:31:16] tscha : 1920x1200, but was sharp before the change
[2016-03-14 18:31:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, the issue is that we use CSS transforms to move the elements, it's much faster than simple positioning
[2016-03-14 18:31:46] BitMEX_Sam : But I've seen issues where that causes odd font rendering
[2016-03-14 18:32:05] BitMEX_Sam : Just to confirm, Basic UI renders sharp?
[2016-03-14 18:32:49] tscha : yes. sidebar for example is sharper than einstein
[2016-03-14 18:33:12] BitMEX_Sam : Ok
[2016-03-14 18:33:17] BitMEX_Sam : Let me load up a VM and see what I can do to fix this
[2016-03-14 18:33:34] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Is the text on https://strml.github.io/react-grid-layout/examples/0-showcase.html blurry?
[2016-03-14 18:35:03] tscha : hmm... no, but hard to say since the text is so huge
[2016-03-14 18:35:44] tscha : but no
[2016-03-14 18:35:54] tscha : only while dragging, when I stop dragging they are sharp
[2016-03-14 18:37:17] tscha : to be more clear, the boxes you linked are only blurry while *rearranging*... bitmex ui however is always blurry
[2016-03-14 18:39:49] BitMEX_Sam : Ok. Thanks
[2016-03-14 18:49:02] peasant-wizard : Wooooow the new UI flexibility is incredible
[2016-03-14 18:49:04] peasant-wizard : wow wow wow
[2016-03-14 18:49:40] peasant-wizard : Glad I checked the Crypto Trader Digest I wouldn't have noticed
[2016-03-14 18:52:19] peasant-wizard : Unfortunately I'm still terrible at trading
[2016-03-14 18:56:03] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Are you comfortable with editing CSS?
[2016-03-14 18:56:16] BitMEX_Sam : I'm getting a VM up but not sure I'll be able to replicate the issue on this screen
[2016-03-14 18:56:26] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: as comfortable as rapidtrades with coding bots
[2016-03-14 18:56:32] tscha : sorry
[2016-03-14 18:56:36] BitMEX_Sam : No worries
[2016-03-14 18:58:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.03481
[2016-03-14 18:58:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 291 @ 0.03481
[2016-03-14 18:59:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5349 @ 0.03530
[2016-03-14 19:02:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1097 @ 0.03606
[2016-03-14 19:02:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.03609
[2016-03-14 19:06:36] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: Could you do me a favor and take a look at testnet, see if it is blurry under the advanced ui for you?
[2016-03-14 19:06:40] BitMEX_Sam : https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBT24H
[2016-03-14 19:07:39] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: yes it is
[2016-03-14 19:07:59] BitMEX_Sam : Still blurry, you mean?
[2016-03-14 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 145 @ 0.03538
[2016-03-14 19:09:35] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: yes, exactly same as here
[2016-03-14 19:09:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 160 @ 0.03274
[2016-03-14 19:10:05] BitMEX_Sam : Ok. Thanks
[2016-03-14 19:11:04] S410520 : REKT
[2016-03-14 19:18:30] splash : BitMEX_Sam: ur doing incredible work on the GUI
[2016-03-14 19:18:39] splash : its lightyears ahead of anything else ive seen
[2016-03-14 19:19:16] cryptokeeper : Sam are you there?
[2016-03-14 19:19:48] cryptokeeper : made a deposit. Got the email saying you got the depost. Balance is at 0. No transaction history either.
[2016-03-14 19:20:00] cryptokeeper : in "loading" state.
[2016-03-14 19:21:52] splash : BitMEX_Sam: hmm, i would like my "Active Orders" tab on the same panel as I got my "Positions"
[2016-03-14 19:22:03] splash : drag-n-drop tabs to panels?
[2016-03-14 19:22:28] splash : i.e. panels are mere containers and the tabs are the components you decorate the panels with
[2016-03-14 19:23:23] splash : that way you could even create a panel with position on one tab and the next tab would have the chart.
[2016-03-14 19:23:54] cryptokeeper : lol... it just came in. thx
[2016-03-14 19:24:04] BitMEX_Sam : splash: That's quite a bit more advanced, but yes, would be nice to do
[2016-03-14 19:24:35] BitMEX_Sam : cryptokeeper: Glad to hear it, sometimes confirmation can take a bit to propagate
[2016-03-14 19:25:58] cryptokeeper : right... i was just getting concerned because deposit history was stuck in "loading" all good now thx
[2016-03-14 19:27:57] BitMEX_Sam : S410520: I've added estimated liquidation price to the order confirmation dialog
[2016-03-14 19:28:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Fix for the precision issue on the summary is landing soon
[2016-03-14 19:28:30] S410520 : BitMEX_Sam: wow! amazing
[2016-03-14 19:28:45] S410520 : didnt expect anything this fast
[2016-03-14 19:29:14] BitMEX_Sam : We had an old ticket open for it, and some other enhancements - figured since you asked I'd spend a bit of time & toss it in
[2016-03-14 19:30:27] S410520 : very nice surprise :D
[2016-03-14 19:32:06] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-03-14 19:37:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.03325
[2016-03-14 19:37:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.03228 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 19:37:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 35 @ 0.03264
[2016-03-14 19:38:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.03230
[2016-03-14 19:42:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.03227
[2016-03-14 19:42:59] MasterChang : da fuck is with the ROI percentage
[2016-03-14 19:43:19] MasterChang : all over the place
[2016-03-14 19:43:24] MasterChang : so sloppy
[2016-03-14 19:43:41] habibi : everything is ok, just remember ur pln is not ur profit when u market clsoe or whatever. price moves a lot
[2016-03-14 19:44:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.03262
[2016-03-14 19:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.03267
[2016-03-14 19:46:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.00507 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 19:49:31] BitMEX_Sam : ROE moves as the mark price moves
[2016-03-14 19:49:38] BitMEX_Sam : ETH is moving very fast right now.
[2016-03-14 19:50:06] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: u really want to make it tradeable on 50x :p?
[2016-03-14 19:50:24] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: We don't have any plans to actually launch that, but it is ready if volatility calms
[2016-03-14 19:50:39] habibi : ah thats fair point then :)
[2016-03-14 19:50:52] BitMEX_Sam : Personally I think 50x is less of an issue than splitting liquidity would be
[2016-03-14 19:51:27] habibi : ah but we have so many even 1 minute 2% candles on polo
[2016-03-14 19:51:36] habibi : aka insta rekt
[2016-03-14 19:53:25] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. Leverage is a tool, not a requirement :)
[2016-03-14 19:53:55] habibi : i mean all in all these liquidations could provide some additional liquidity so not that bad at the end
[2016-03-14 19:54:00] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for the precision fix, man you are fast :-)
[2016-03-14 19:55:02] MasterChang : so if im shorting 10 ETH contracts at 10... how much am i spending?
[2016-03-14 19:55:10] sleger : micmix: hey have you tried fix ?
[2016-03-14 19:55:23] micmix : habibi: ETH is crazy today, my test bot made 0.3 BTC trading 5 contracts
[2016-03-14 19:55:40] habibi : micmix: :D nice catching edges!
[2016-03-14 19:55:52] micmix : hey sleger! no, not yet, what about you?
[2016-03-14 19:56:06] sleger : micmix: still not working as of yesterday for me on futures
[2016-03-14 19:56:20] micmix : even just market data?
[2016-03-14 19:56:26] sleger : nothing works
[2016-03-14 19:56:32] BitMEX_Sam : MasterChang: ETH contracts are equal to 1 ETH per cont
[2016-03-14 19:56:44] BitMEX_Sam : Simply divide by the leverage you're using to get the margin required
[2016-03-14 19:56:52] BitMEX_Sam : Those numbers are also shown below the controls
[2016-03-14 19:57:06] micmix : that's crazy, you would expect it to be easy since they have solid FIX on spot
[2016-03-14 19:57:23] BitMEX_Sam : OKC?
[2016-03-14 19:57:26] micmix : yeah
[2016-03-14 19:58:56] sleger : micmix: i was surprised too... the support told me it s new and not ready yet but the doc is on their website
[2016-03-14 19:59:18] sleger : and they committed some code sample 18 days ago
[2016-03-14 19:59:23] micmix : yeah, doesn't even say beta on the docs
[2016-03-14 20:00:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.03304 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 20:00:45] splash : eth looks like its on meth.
[2016-03-14 20:00:53] micmix : BTW, did you notice increased competition for liquidity on 24h?
[2016-03-14 20:01:10] sleger : micmix: since ?
[2016-03-14 20:01:20] micmix : since couple days ago I think
[2016-03-14 20:01:34] habibi : micmix: sleger these days ur bots are trading with eachother
[2016-03-14 20:01:49] sleger : micmix: i have done very little volume on 24h over past few weeks to be honest
[2016-03-14 20:01:58] splash : actually if one ever traded FX one would recognize the pattern on eth.
[2016-03-14 20:02:10] sleger : i think there are too many bots trying and maybe not even making money but making it harder to make $
[2016-03-14 20:02:29] sleger : and fees for taking are a bit high
[2016-03-14 20:03:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.03373
[2016-03-14 20:03:10] splash : im still convinced eth is going to 0.06 faaast and also i still think its a good idea to not buy it on margin. so far that analysis have been spot on
[2016-03-14 20:03:25] MasterChang : ok so, what if i make one short @5x and one @25x ... what then.. why are they both grouped together?
[2016-03-14 20:03:51] micmix : yeah, that's what I think too. drop in trading volume plus more competition
[2016-03-14 20:04:28] micmix : maybe we have a new player
[2016-03-14 20:08:18] micmix : habibi is right, too many bots for the small number of traders and trading volume
[2016-03-14 20:10:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 44 @ 0.03344
[2016-03-14 20:10:28] BitMEX_Sam : MasterChang: We do not distinguish between individual orders, you simply add or remove from a single position
[2016-03-14 20:10:50] BitMEX_Sam : This is how positions work on every financial platform outside of a few Bitcoin exchanges
[2016-03-14 20:12:10] tscha : I dont think there are new players, it's just the insanely low trading volume. Look at 24H volume, 500 coins, hasn't been that low since october except once
[2016-03-14 20:12:14] MasterChang : so if i make a 5x short.. then its 100% up. then i do a 25x short. then close.. what then
[2016-03-14 20:13:29] MasterChang : which one does it close on? if its a single position?
[2016-03-14 20:18:31] MasterChang : oh i see its 25x no matter what ?
[2016-03-14 20:19:33] BitMEX_Sam : MasterChang: When you switch leverage, you're switching it on the position
[2016-03-14 20:19:50] BitMEX_Sam : All that switching leverage does is change how much Bitcoin backs a position
[2016-03-14 20:20:06] MasterChang : oh ok so its still 25x
[2016-03-14 20:25:44] jung1 : nice features bitmex1
[2016-03-14 20:26:14] jung1 : protip: go long on bitshares, factom and maid. ora just buy some and hold ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-03-14 20:27:58] sleger : jung1: please dont talk about bitshares and maid we dont trade that shit here
[2016-03-14 20:28:44] jung1 : you act like you are mad because poloniex deny your application for trollbox mod
[2016-03-14 20:29:06] jung1 : Im on altcoin trollbox and I will talk about altcoins
[2016-03-14 20:29:10] jung1 : if you like it or not
[2016-03-14 20:29:36] MasterChang : damn jung1
[2016-03-14 20:29:40] MasterChang : back at it again with the sasss
[2016-03-14 20:29:54] sleger : jung1: admin just stopped someone who was talking about something not traded here
[2016-03-14 20:30:10] sleger : so same applies to you, "if you like it or not"
[2016-03-14 20:31:16] jung1 : before adding factom we wera talk here about factom
[2016-03-14 20:31:33] sleger : sorry im not a mod i cant explain you when the rule changed
[2016-03-14 20:31:39] jung1 : before ethereum we were talk here about ethereum
[2016-03-14 20:31:51] sleger : but for now you can talk about eth and fct if you want
[2016-03-14 20:32:30] jung1 : thanks for permission
[2016-03-14 20:33:10] sleger : i hope you are on leverage on those altcoins ?
[2016-03-14 20:34:36] jung1 : I was
[2016-03-14 20:34:48] jung1 : now Im bagholder but IM comming back on long
[2016-03-14 20:35:18] jung1 : I feel in bones that maid will triple its price in next months
[2016-03-14 20:35:44] sleger : excellent, then we won't have to hear you for too long
[2016-03-14 20:35:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 40 @ 0.00506
[2016-03-14 20:38:35] jung1 : you are boring
[2016-03-14 20:38:43] jung1 : Im going to wach house of cards
[2016-03-14 20:38:58] micmix : FCT7D open value 7.5 XBT, not a good start
[2016-03-14 20:40:20] habibi : jung1: so bts 1500 sat - mc in case u wrong 1350, maid 2300 - mc around 1840. lets see if ur tips leads to liquidation or profit
[2016-03-14 20:41:54] micmix : any alt available on polo margin can be pumped 3x-4x without difficulties
[2016-03-14 20:42:34] micmix : and all of them will be at one point or another, that's how people make money there
[2016-03-14 20:44:53] micmix : it's 2014 all over again. do you remember blackcoin? that's how the chart usually looks: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blackcoin/
[2016-03-14 20:45:24] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-14 20:45:35] jung1 : its just started with all these dapps movement
[2016-03-14 20:45:48] micmix : or even better one: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/auroracoin/
[2016-03-14 20:46:12] jung1 : '13-'14 was awesome. everyday new coin
[2016-03-14 20:46:39] jung1 : keep an eye on dapps
[2016-03-14 20:46:43] micmix : ETH and MAID have interesting technology but they are not currencies
[2016-03-14 20:46:45] habibi : micmix: i would say margin trading actually reduces upmove
[2016-03-14 20:46:52] jung1 : some of good bets and we can go for retire
[2016-03-14 20:47:45] micmix : anyway, it's offtopic here
[2016-03-14 20:48:28] jung1 : for example if someone will buy 2000 eth in presale for 1btc no you could sell it for $30000
[2016-03-14 20:49:29] jung1 : will be same with augur, factom and many many more projects couse eth could be used not only in finance
[2016-03-14 20:50:07] jung1 : its more like you buy IP addresses in early '90
[2016-03-14 21:04:29] splash : jung1: where do u think we will go from here? if it was all about altcoins before, whats the next thing u think?
[2016-03-14 21:05:04] jung1 : imo in this year will be another gold rush about dapps
[2016-03-14 21:05:06] BitMEX_Sam : I'm a big fan of these useful PoW schemes
[2016-03-14 21:05:37] splash : jung1: any special in mind?
[2016-03-14 21:05:43] jung1 : its awesome because you can use ether blockchain basicly inevery fields
[2016-03-14 21:05:51] jung1 : not only in finacial as it was with altcoins
[2016-03-14 21:05:58] jung1 : all that internet of things
[2016-03-14 21:06:05] jung1 : it will be huge
[2016-03-14 21:06:11] BTCDJS : jung1: Whats special about Factom?
[2016-03-14 21:06:19] jung1 : and we are lucky that we can see how its born
[2016-03-14 21:06:24] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: If you refresh, resizing the Chart <= 2 units of height will unload it
[2016-03-14 21:06:40] BitMEX_Sam : So if you want to save the cycles/memory just make it tiny and toss it at the bottom of the layout somewhere
[2016-03-14 21:07:20] Plasma : nice
[2016-03-14 21:07:58] jung1 : BTCDJS: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/factom-signs-deals-for-blockchain-notarization-services-and-smart-cities-in-china-1456935176
[2016-03-14 21:08:04] jung1 : this for wxample
[2016-03-14 21:08:13] BitMEX_Sam : Hope you guys are enjoying the new customization - going to take a short break
[2016-03-14 21:08:25] jung1 : yeah its cool
[2016-03-14 21:09:45] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: I'm afraid to refresh
[2016-03-14 21:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : I believe in you rapidtrades
[2016-03-14 21:10:31] BTCDJS : jung1: Buy and HODL?
[2016-03-14 21:11:04] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: Great to be able to move everything the way i want it
[2016-03-14 21:11:14] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: refresh now
[2016-03-14 21:12:00] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: best exchange so far
[2016-03-14 21:12:13] splash : BitMEX_Sam: It would be unbelievable cool if we could plot the underlying asset on the chart also :D
[2016-03-14 21:12:22] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: excellent, no more chart, thank you very much!
[2016-03-14 21:14:54] splash : i think bitmex is going to be big exchange
[2016-03-14 21:15:12] jung1 : yeah
[2016-03-14 21:17:08] jung1 : would be awesome to buy some shares of bitmex
[2016-03-14 21:18:49] BitMEX_Sam : splash: You already can chart it
[2016-03-14 21:19:06] splash : oh i can? :D
[2016-03-14 21:19:13] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, actually it does it automatically now
[2016-03-14 21:19:16] BitMEX_Sam : You should see a purple line
[2016-03-14 21:19:24] BitMEX_Sam : If you're using the dark theme it might be a bit faint, I'll work on that
[2016-03-14 21:19:43] jung1 : btw its kinda funny trend on names in bitcoin companies. Most of them hav bit- or coin- in name. same as with internet companies in '90 with all that e-something or something-net
[2016-03-14 21:20:11] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, that's true
[2016-03-14 21:20:22] BitMEX_Sam : I've seen a few branching out from that, but not that many
[2016-03-14 21:20:42] splash : jung1: true that
[2016-03-14 21:20:52] jung1 : in this stage is good cous bitcoin is still hipster technology
[2016-03-14 21:21:07] jung1 : so its easier for customers to identify
[2016-03-14 21:21:16] jung1 : but its same story
[2016-03-14 21:21:24] jung1 : and all we see what is internet now
[2016-03-14 21:21:25] rapidtrades : the companies that survived the NASDAQ slaughter tho, didn't have e- or net
[2016-03-14 21:21:55] jung1 : but they are after rebranding mostly
[2016-03-14 21:22:07] rapidtrades : really like what
[2016-03-14 21:22:31] jung1 : hm
[2016-03-14 21:22:37] jung1 : ok I dont know
[2016-03-14 21:23:08] rapidtrades : those names were prolly like targets hehe
[2016-03-14 21:23:10] splash : yahoo?
[2016-03-14 21:23:21] jung1 : its good name imo
[2016-03-14 21:25:28] rapidtrades : i was just reading yday that almosot 40% of US stocks have a negative lifetime return
[2016-03-14 21:32:12] splash : rapidtrades: wow i didnt know that. sounds aweful
[2016-03-14 21:32:47] splash : rapditrades: on that note i tried to do some trading on stock exchanges today... impossible to do though because it takes to long to move money between accounts :-P
[2016-03-14 21:33:46] splash : once u go crypto ur view of the old dinosaur finance world changes _completely_ and u realize how much value there is in this tech
[2016-03-14 21:36:20] rapidtrades : depends, lot of forex brokers offer paypal-like alternatives with instant transfers...so it's even better then bitcoin
[2016-03-14 21:37:10] BTCDJS : If bitcoin price reaches 570 on 24H how much will that be in M16?
[2016-03-14 21:37:39] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: Hard to say, it depends a lot on how fast it rises and what the sentiment is
[2016-03-14 21:37:55] BitMEX_Sam : Too many variables at play to say what the market will price M16 at
[2016-03-14 21:39:06] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: those contracts will overshoot both up and down
[2016-03-14 21:39:21] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: is it me or fonts just got sharper on Chrome?
[2016-03-14 21:39:29] rapidtrades : the more time to expiration, the larger the premium
[2016-03-14 21:39:47] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Depends, there was already one report that they got blurrier when the update came out earlier today
[2016-03-14 21:39:52] BTCDJS : Ok Ill keep an eye on it closer to that time
[2016-03-14 21:40:06] BitMEX_Sam : Blink/Webkit has some interesting interactions with 2D transforms, which we use to place the grid items
[2016-03-14 21:40:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: how do i get rid of the chart
[2016-03-14 21:40:30] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Just size it very small
[2016-03-14 21:40:35] BitMEX_Sam : It will unload if it detects it's unviewable
[2016-03-14 21:41:10] rapidtrades : i still can't move stuff
[2016-03-14 21:41:21] BitMEX_Sam : Really?
[2016-03-14 21:41:23] rapidtrades : and now i have a chart showing
[2016-03-14 21:41:29] micmix : any changes in the last 20-30 min, I just refreshed and fonts look better
[2016-03-14 21:41:30] BitMEX_Sam : Are you on basic or advanced?
[2016-03-14 21:41:39] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: There were some changes but it should not have affected fonts
[2016-03-14 21:41:51] rapidtrades : basic
[2016-03-14 21:41:57] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: must be my eyes got better suddenly :-)
[2016-03-14 21:42:03] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Basic is still a static layout, you can't move widgets on it
[2016-03-14 21:42:06] BitMEX_Sam : Switch to Advanced
[2016-03-14 22:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.03131
[2016-03-14 22:17:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.03118 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 22:24:15] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: what happens to the realized PNL on XBT48H? is it added to XBT24H PNL?
[2016-03-14 22:24:39] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I need to check with Wally on that, I know at some point we will be redoing how we display realised PNL
[2016-03-14 22:25:05] BitMEX_Sam : It was a lot more straightforward before we moved to relisting contracts
[2016-03-14 22:28:14] micmix : realizedPNL in the position table is zero on settlement, I couldn't find out how to get realized for XBT48H
[2016-03-14 22:32:28] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes. Then it's moved to 24H. It doesn't settle, it expires, so there wouldn't be any realised PNL
[2016-03-14 22:32:47] BitMEX_Sam : The difference being of course that the position has been kept open, they're not settled at the mark price
[2016-03-14 22:36:07] micmix : ok, that explains why there are no separate entries for XBT48H on the wallet page
[2016-03-14 22:36:50] BitMEX_Sam : 48H is a virtual instrument, much like calendar spreads
[2016-03-14 22:37:00] micmix : makes it a bit harder to see what's going on bc PNL from 24H and 48H is lumped together
[2016-03-14 22:37:15] BitMEX_Sam : By the way @all another update just landed, you can now switch the orderbook between single and dual column in both layouts
[2016-03-14 22:37:24] BitMEX_Sam : Click the options dropdown (gear in the top right corner) to change it
[2016-03-14 22:37:32] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yeah, I agree that the history could use some fleshing out
[2016-03-14 22:38:06] BitMEX_Sam : When we have a bit of time we're going to do a survey of some other systems and figure out a nicer history format for the site
[2016-03-14 22:53:02] micmix : tscha: yeah, 24h volume is very low lately, like now we have one trade per hour. I guess ppl are busy playing with ETH
[2016-03-14 23:05:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 70 @ 0.03061
[2016-03-14 23:08:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.03046
[2016-03-14 23:09:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 40 @ 0.03010
[2016-03-14 23:09:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 350 @ 0.02982
[2016-03-14 23:18:15] hashman : order cancellation from the X on orderbook is no longer working
[2016-03-14 23:18:48] habibi : it is, just stays there even order is canceled, right?
[2016-03-14 23:19:15] hashman : yeah error mesage
[2016-03-14 23:19:29] hashman : message: order can not be cancelled, price num " ---
[2016-03-14 23:19:44] hashman : fucked me over pretty bad just now
[2016-03-14 23:19:44] habibi : so take a look at active orders if the order is still there
[2016-03-14 23:19:55] hashman : yeah you can cancel it from active orders
[2016-03-14 23:20:03] hashman : but not from the orderbook anymore
[2016-03-14 23:20:07] hashman : lost precious seconds
[2016-03-14 23:20:11] hashman : figuring that out
[2016-03-14 23:20:13] habibi : my point is i had the same, but order was canceled first time i clicked but x remained there still
[2016-03-14 23:20:13] hashman : fuck
[2016-03-14 23:20:33] hashman : not in my case, order was still there and had to cancel from active order tabs
[2016-03-14 23:20:56] habibi : k
[2016-03-14 23:21:06] habibi : i bet BitMEX_Sam can look into it
[2016-03-14 23:24:09] BitMEX_Sam : Hang on, looking into it
[2016-03-14 23:24:51] tscha : finally a larger trade on XBT
[2016-03-14 23:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.02930
[2016-03-14 23:34:26] nickhnt : eth gives
[2016-03-14 23:34:27] nickhnt : eth takes
[2016-03-14 23:34:30] nickhnt : :p
[2016-03-14 23:36:14] Mangalica : almost 91k BTC volume for polo
[2016-03-14 23:36:24] Mangalica : pretty impressive
[2016-03-14 23:37:52] nickhnt : yeah, never seen so mush volume on there
[2016-03-14 23:39:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT24H`: Buy 200 @ 415.45
[2016-03-14 23:39:48] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: I apologize for the ob cancel disruption, if you refresh the issue is fixed
[2016-03-14 23:39:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 32 @ 0.02864
[2016-03-14 23:40:11] ayy lmao : how do i turn off indicators on the chart
[2016-03-14 23:40:27] BitMEX_Sam : ayy lmao: Right click, you can 'disable order display' or 'disable position display'
[2016-03-14 23:40:56] BitMEX_Sam : Mangalica: The volume there is nuts, especially since they get as much as 40 bps both sides with their fee schedule
[2016-03-14 23:41:08] BitMEX_Sam : Roughly $160k USD/day best case
[2016-03-14 23:41:14] ayy lmao : thx
[2016-03-14 23:41:35] rapidtrades : can u make it so I can not see the chart
[2016-03-14 23:41:50] rapidtrades : there's only maximize now
[2016-03-14 23:41:53] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yes, just make it smaller and move it out of the way
[2016-03-14 23:41:57] rapidtrades : and now i can't use advanced
[2016-03-14 23:42:07] BitMEX_Sam : Why's that?
[2016-03-14 23:42:18] rapidtrades : maybe it's my small resolution but it doesn't look right
[2016-03-14 23:42:28] rapidtrades : i'll take a screenshot tomorrow
[2016-03-14 23:44:41] BitMEX_Sam : Okay - yeah, you'd have to be more specific for me to have a chance of addressing it
[2016-03-14 23:46:44] peasant-wizard : Are OCO orders part of UI yet?
[2016-03-14 23:46:59] BitMEX_Sam : Not yet.
[2016-03-14 23:47:13] peasant-wizard : No problemo thanks