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[2016-03-14 01:13:20] BitcoinLIFE : I had deposited 12 BTC 4 Hours ago and now have 9.5 I should have had 20BTC man.
[2016-03-14 01:13:39] rapidtrades : look at the history above....ffs
[2016-03-14 01:13:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.03024
[2016-03-14 01:14:06] habibi : that would be huge interest on deposit coins, it doesnt work like that here!
[2016-03-14 01:14:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.03040 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 01:14:19] Mangalica : i'm surprised the MM hasnt called it quits yet, bless his heart
[2016-03-14 01:14:43] rapidtrades : i'm surprised bitcoin hasn't rallied yet
[2016-03-14 01:14:59] Mangalica : that too
[2016-03-14 01:15:23] Mangalica : although i guess some of the profits are gonna be converted into fiat
[2016-03-14 01:15:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03090
[2016-03-14 01:15:52] rapidtrades : ''i refuse to be tricked into a panic sell''
[2016-03-14 01:16:01] rapidtrades : here we go...this is fascianting
[2016-03-14 01:16:12] rapidtrades : human psychology at play
[2016-03-14 01:17:25] messiaen8844 : longing
[2016-03-14 01:17:31] messiaen8844 : great buys ;)
[2016-03-14 01:17:47] messiaen8844 : let's retrace boys
[2016-03-14 01:18:14] rapidtrades : and here come the dippers
[2016-03-14 01:19:09] micmix : BitcoinLIFE: do you have withheld profit? all profit is locked until Friday, you can't withdraw until Friday
[2016-03-14 01:19:24] habibi : he said he dont have any :p
[2016-03-14 01:19:49] habibi : probally fucked up sth or market bought or was paying too much attention to pln and did some shit move or just didnt go short but long
[2016-03-14 01:19:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 90 @ 0.03174
[2016-03-14 01:20:02] micmix : BitcoinLIFE: I've been trading here for a year, I can assure you that this site doesn't steal money
[2016-03-14 01:20:25] rapidtrades : he prolly has withheld profit but is too stupid to read
[2016-03-14 01:20:31] BitcoinLIFE : habibi: Bitch fuck you. I know exactly what I'm doing and that isn't the fkcng case.
[2016-03-14 01:20:40] rapidtrades : or has poor eyesight
[2016-03-14 01:20:42] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: Bitch fvvck you too.
[2016-03-14 01:20:57] habibi : BitcoinLIFE: u clearly dont. unless u will tell that new ui is bad i wont support ur shit talk
[2016-03-14 01:21:06] habibi : :D
[2016-03-14 01:21:17] rapidtrades : yeah new UI made him do it
[2016-03-14 01:21:28] rapidtrades : refund his losses or revert to old UI
[2016-03-14 01:21:52] BitcoinLIFE : I cannot even contact the support team.
[2016-03-14 01:22:01] habibi : bad number?
[2016-03-14 01:22:03] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: I am the CEO
[2016-03-14 01:22:05] habibi : no funds on phone?
[2016-03-14 01:22:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Click on Help
[2016-03-14 01:22:13] BitMEX_Arthur : then submit a support request
[2016-03-14 01:22:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.03106
[2016-03-14 01:22:19] BitMEX_Arthur : And we will help you if you want us to
[2016-03-14 01:32:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.03182
[2016-03-14 01:33:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03219
[2016-03-14 01:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.03161
[2016-03-14 01:44:43] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: I have just submitted it.
[2016-03-14 01:45:46] BitcoinLIFE : I know feel like I cannot even trade here anymore. I expect the same thing to happen and the sad part is that I intended to make more than just that 8BTC i gained.
[2016-03-14 01:45:57] BitcoinLIFE : now*
[2016-03-14 01:52:52] habibi : in case it was really exchange fault u will get fully refunded probally
[2016-03-14 01:53:07] habibi : but... still its highly imposible
[2016-03-14 01:54:53] Szoke : yeah i dont find that likely either
[2016-03-14 02:08:39] BitcoinLIFE : Szoke: Don't find what likely? This is his brand i'm sure he didn't build this to have some minor system error bring bad rep to the exchange.
[2016-03-14 02:09:14] habibi : BitcoinLIFE: would u mind posting screenshot with ur order history?
[2016-03-14 02:21:37] rapidtrades : i'm still going with withheld profit
[2016-03-14 02:23:42] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: Nothing there man, but Arthur told me he is reviewing my account. ATM. I want to have him help first.
[2016-03-14 02:28:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 45 @ 0.03258
[2016-03-14 02:31:44] BitMEX_Wally : BitcoinLIFE: I have replied to your ticket
[2016-03-14 02:35:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 864 @ 0.03167
[2016-03-14 02:38:14] rapidtrades : damit the suspense is killing me
[2016-03-14 02:41:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.03185
[2016-03-14 02:55:25] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Wally: This is a scam that is taking place. A big scheme that I am almost sure has happened before. I advise for this to be handled accordingly. Also where is the owner being that he was going to directly handle this? This wont work out how you guys intended it to.
[2016-03-14 02:57:22] Plasma : BitcoinLIFE: what happened?
[2016-03-14 02:57:22] chromaticcr1 : Now thats what we call a troll boz
[2016-03-14 03:00:18] BitcoinLIFE : Plasma: My 8 BTC profit disappeared, not only that but 2 out of the 12 BTC I deposited are also gone. I shorted ETH from 0.03454 and closed at 0.030 closed at an 8.4 BTC profit. BitMEX stole it and then some. Scheming me out of 10.4 BTC total.
[2016-03-14 03:02:00] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: Wally replied to your ticket with exactly what happened. Please review the information that he provided. There is no error in our system.
[2016-03-14 03:03:14] chromaticcr1 : If you don't mind, you can go to account> trade history> export CSV (or make a full screen cap). We can analyse what happened to your account.
[2016-03-14 03:03:30] Plasma : yes please do that
[2016-03-14 03:04:50] chromaticcr1 : Just in case the support ticket isn't giving a great explanation to you... But I sure they did. That's your private info anyway ;)
[2016-03-14 03:04:54] BitcoinLIFE : Without a problem. Give me a moment.
[2016-03-14 03:09:18] BitMEX_Wally : There is no scam, you closed a massive position with a market order and suffered slippage
[2016-03-14 03:10:56] BitcoinLIFE : http://imgur.com/a/E2Xv9
[2016-03-14 03:11:53] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Wally: A Massive order? They Filled within time for me to profit. Your excuse isn't valid being that the system shows exactly what I speak of.
[2016-03-14 03:15:31] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: but u didn't short at 0.034 only...u shorted all the way down
[2016-03-14 03:15:38] rapidtrades : at 31, 29, even 27
[2016-03-14 03:16:04] elmorte : tldr on what happened?
[2016-03-14 03:16:08] elmorte : On mobile...:/
[2016-03-14 03:16:22] micmix : BitcoinLIFE doesn't understand how market orders work
[2016-03-14 03:16:37] elmorte : Oh yeah, a pricey mistake
[2016-03-14 03:16:45] micmix : he has to read about orderbook and what those asks/bids mean
[2016-03-14 03:16:47] rapidtrades : also 3k is a large order for that market, that's like 50% of open interest
[2016-03-14 03:17:00] elmorte : cheers @micmix
[2016-03-14 03:17:45] rapidtrades : so he should expect large slippage on market orders...
[2016-03-14 03:18:10] elmorte : I remember BTCDJS doing that on one of his first days....didn't cry no scam though
[2016-03-14 03:19:25] rapidtrades : i don't get why ppl don't use token amounts when they don't know the platform
[2016-03-14 03:20:15] rapidtrades : he just HAD to trade now, this is the last opportunity he'll have to make money
[2016-03-14 03:20:44] elmorte : fomo dude, you bring it up all the time :)
[2016-03-14 03:21:09] elmorte : Shit, even I did it now that I remember it...but mark price and order book weren't that far off (it was XBT24H)
[2016-03-14 03:21:48] BitcoinLIFE : elmorte: Because I've used all of the major exchanges you could think of that margin trade ETH and I have never had anything close to this happen to me. Are you understanding that I closed in PROFIT. In 8 BTC profit.
[2016-03-14 03:22:40] rapidtrades : dude the open interest for eth here is 120 BTC...
[2016-03-14 03:22:53] rapidtrades : this ain't no polo...
[2016-03-14 03:23:28] rapidtrades : sry 266...was looking at 24h
[2016-03-14 03:23:33] elmorte : Dude, I feel ya. But your profit was based on the index price. If there were no counter-orders at that price, your market order went aggressively thru the trade book, picking the lowest hanging fruit (or highest at your point) first and then further down...
[2016-03-14 03:24:09] elmorte : highest since you were short, sorry
[2016-03-14 03:25:07] elmorte : Look at the index price now....not even inside the spread
[2016-03-14 03:25:23] BitcoinLIFE : elmorte: So I shouldn't be trading this volume? It was just 3000 Contracts
[2016-03-14 03:25:46] elmorte : Correct, you should adjust it for the market liquidity
[2016-03-14 03:26:01] elmorte : Which is hardly as liquid as the index (polo) market
[2016-03-14 03:26:34] elmorte : highest I went was 1400...and got liquidated during a flash crash :/
[2016-03-14 03:27:01] elmorte : Now I stick to 200-500, eventually 849 yesterday coz I doubled down
[2016-03-14 03:27:34] BitMEX_Sam : It's possible to trade that kind of amount, but only while watching the market very carefully, and by carefully picking off tight orders or by making
[2016-03-14 03:27:42] j8 : BitcoinLIFE: look at the orderbook, look at what prices you'd get if you bought 3000. probably over 0.032
[2016-03-14 03:28:04] elmorte : 0.03267
[2016-03-14 03:28:04] j8 : if you sold 3000 you might get an average of 0.0302
[2016-03-14 03:28:25] elmorte : The peak price, average would be lower of course as j8 says
[2016-03-14 03:28:29] j8 : that's a loss of ~5 btc
[2016-03-14 03:28:45] BitcoinLIFE : elmorte: How does that make money?
[2016-03-14 03:28:58] j8 : the books on polo are not much better unless there happens to be a wall. it's 100 btc worth of eth
[2016-03-14 03:29:07] elmorte : slowly but surely
[2016-03-14 03:29:29] elmorte : Whenever I got greedy, I got slapped behind the ears
[2016-03-14 03:30:16] elmorte : You have to scale your expectations to the actual order book liquidity available
[2016-03-14 03:31:26] elmorte : And scale your sell off, stagger it...
[2016-03-14 03:31:49] elmorte : And wonder who in their right mind would go long for that quantity in a crashing market
[2016-03-14 03:32:10] elmorte : Unless they went to sleep with a trailing long
[2016-03-14 03:32:20] elmorte : **guilty**
[2016-03-14 03:32:30] elmorte : albeit only 200 contracts
[2016-03-14 03:33:01] j8 : the 500's the mm is quoting are pretty decent for building a position.
[2016-03-14 03:33:40] chromaticcr : For example, now ETH7D is at 0.03092, but closing like 4000 contract would goes like: 500 at 0.003093 500 at 3072 1200 at 3053... etc
[2016-03-14 03:35:17] chromaticcr : You may try limit order next time, eg: Limit, 4000, 0.03100. WIth price 0.000082 lower than market price, there is incentive for people to take your big order, and you will close exactly at 0.003100, even with a liquidity provider fee rebate (of 0.025%)
[2016-03-14 03:40:54] elmorte : A strategy question for everyone, i've been doing this with mixed success but interested in your opinion:
[2016-03-14 03:41:26] elmorte : So I'm long, the market falls significantly. Would you buy a bit more at the lower price to lower your average entry?
[2016-03-14 03:41:43] elmorte : On one hand it makes it easier to break even if it goes up
[2016-03-14 03:42:03] elmorte : On the other, you increased your position with uncertainty in the market...
[2016-03-14 03:42:03] j8 : elmorte: your average entry doesn't matter. buy if it's a good time to buy
[2016-03-14 03:42:29] elmorte : Thanks, I need advice like that...not something you learn in school
[2016-03-14 03:42:52] BitcoinLIFE : chromaticcr: @j8 @elmorte (y) Great. I will take this all into account. But if I feel like the problem is liquidity then I feel as if we just need to promote BitMEX more. Because honestly this is a niche market, being that these margins are offered.
[2016-03-14 03:43:10] elmorte : BitcoinLIFE: Don't disagree there
[2016-03-14 03:43:59] 31133113 : how long have you guys been trading here? looks pretty good
[2016-03-14 03:44:02] elmorte : And I think the admins have been doing a good job of promoting it...bar a few PR mishaps
[2016-03-14 03:44:05] j8 : elmorte: sometimes, if you're overleveraged, you have to exit your position at a bad time.. so, try to avoid that
[2016-03-14 03:44:21] elmorte : Yeah @j8 , like yesterday :/
[2016-03-14 03:44:40] chromaticcr : #NeverGetRekt
[2016-03-14 03:44:48] elmorte : 31133113: created an account in Dec, but only really started trading in Jan
[2016-03-14 03:45:09] j8 : 31133113: i've been here a little over a year
[2016-03-14 03:45:13] BitcoinLIFE : elmorte: Ofcourse. Honestly if there was liquidity I would without a doubt LIVE here. All of my tradings would take place here, and only here.
[2016-03-14 03:45:57] elmorte : My logic was that if I lower the avg entry price, it would be easier to cover on an upswing (assuming long pos.) Just looking for the faults in that logic...or a better logic
[2016-03-14 03:46:33] elmorte : BitcoinLIFE: Word. And XBT24H is pretty liquid...ETH, give it some time
[2016-03-14 03:47:30] j8 : elmorte: yes you would make more if it goes up, but you'd lose more if it goes down. so basically, you'd get overleveraged sooner and get forced out
[2016-03-14 03:47:51] elmorte : Thanks, needed some grounded advice
[2016-03-14 03:48:28] elmorte : It's a funny psychological effect too: when you see your account in red, you'd do anything to break even again....as soon as it turns even slightly green, you see $$$ in your eyes
[2016-03-14 03:49:33] j8 : yeah, there's a lot of psychological stuff like that.
[2016-03-14 03:49:57] elmorte : Any literature on this?
[2016-03-14 03:50:17] elmorte : I studied economics and it helps with a lot of reasoning...but this is a whole new ballgame
[2016-03-14 03:50:55] elmorte : Not majored in, but as a req. in business degree
[2016-03-14 03:51:02] j8 : i'm sure there is but i couldn't point you to it
[2016-03-14 03:51:07] micmix : BitcoinLIFE: you tried to sell 5000 ETH in one go, thankfully your order was rejected. you would crash polo as well and it's the most liquid market
[2016-03-14 03:54:45] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, BitMEX_Wally: I know that it's not your job to protect people from their mistakes but couple suggestions: 1) make limit order the default order type, 2) show average execution price for market sell/buy in realtime based on the current orderbook and 3) show a warning if larger market order would execute like 5% below/above current price
[2016-03-14 03:56:17] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Yes we are looking at adding more information to the order confirmation box
[2016-03-14 03:56:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 601 @ 0.03101
[2016-03-14 04:00:01] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Leverage change confirmation dialog...is that still in the works? Messed it up on mobile again yesterday
[2016-03-14 04:00:13] micmix : not that people are going to read the confirmation box when they are in a hurry to make money ;-)
[2016-03-14 04:00:33] elmorte : micmix: aye, but you live n learn
[2016-03-14 04:00:45] elmorte : speaking from experience :)
[2016-03-14 04:00:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.03089 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 04:04:55] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: still in the works
[2016-03-14 04:06:11] elmorte : Btw, limit is my default order now...but that's prob coz of the local cookies, right?
[2016-03-14 04:06:17] elmorte : It was market at first
[2016-03-14 04:06:53] j8 : yeah, market orders and max leverage by default... i think that's crazy
[2016-03-14 04:07:49] elmorte : finex ETH still not up?
[2016-03-14 04:08:50] j8 : noon UTC
[2016-03-14 04:09:04] elmorte : Oh cheers, thought it was midnight
[2016-03-14 04:09:28] micmix : I'm ready for the pump on finex :-)
[2016-03-14 04:09:39] elmorte : Same
[2016-03-14 04:10:00] micmix : or dump, doesn't matter to me as long as there is something
[2016-03-14 04:10:12] elmorte : Launches only 2 hours prior to homestead
[2016-03-14 04:11:08] micmix : my fav scenario: finex opens, massive pump to 0.045, few hours later announcement that homestead is delayed, dump to 0.02
[2016-03-14 04:11:50] elmorte : Hehe...I don't think it's possible to delay it, is it? It's determined by the block number
[2016-03-14 04:12:30] micmix : it's not possible to delay but something like last minute bug that will cause problems should work :-)
[2016-03-14 04:14:25] elmorte : Ooh, the damage control on reddit if that happens
[2016-03-14 04:24:45] chromaticcr : Hardfork seems like something wont goes wrong
[2016-03-14 04:25:59] chromaticcr : and new exchange = more greater fools
[2016-03-14 04:42:56] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Default leverage is Cross not max
[2016-03-14 04:43:16] j8 : oh ok, i guess that's changed
[2016-03-14 05:13:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 515 @ 0.03329
[2016-03-14 06:53:10] viptrader : ETH DUMPPPPPP
[2016-03-14 06:53:19] viptrader : SELL SELL SELL
[2016-03-14 07:05:13] viptrader : ETH GOING SO LOW
[2016-03-14 07:06:05] viptrader : 0.02 NEXT
[2016-03-14 07:20:05] kb1985 : Mods I have a question
[2016-03-14 07:25:54] kb1985 : BitMEX_Wally: hi are you mod here?
[2016-03-14 07:28:00] kb1985 : :/
[2016-03-14 07:30:56] chromaticcr : kb1985: names who start with BITMEX_ is admin, works in Bitmex
[2016-03-14 07:31:23] kb1985 : chromaticcr: great, do you know if it is possible to cancel withdrawal that is already pending?
[2016-03-14 07:32:13] chromaticcr : kb1985: You may need to send an email to them, or a support ticket through Help > Support. Given that your withdrawl have confirmed through the link in EMail
[2016-03-14 07:32:36] kb1985 : chromaticcr: Going to ask them when they get back here.
[2016-03-14 07:41:06] trading : the api seems not to be working
[2016-03-14 07:42:15] BitMEX_Arthur : trading: What specifically isn't working?
[2016-03-14 07:42:24] BitMEX_Arthur : kb1985: Hi how can i help
[2016-03-14 07:42:41] trading : private API and public API
[2016-03-14 07:42:56] kb1985 : BitMEX_Arthur: i've set BTC withdrawal couple of hours ago, but would be happy to cancel the withdrawal and play arouind a bit here with those BTC
[2016-03-14 07:43:01] BitMEX_Arthur : What specific call are you making?
[2016-03-14 07:43:14] BitMEX_Arthur : kb1985: Can you submit a support ticket
[2016-03-14 07:43:22] kb1985 : BitMEX_Arthur: yup
[2016-03-14 07:43:34] trading : I think all calls doesn't work now
[2016-03-14 07:44:05] BitMEX_Arthur : trading: I'm not seeing that issue, can you tell me what request you are making, and we can check
[2016-03-14 07:46:06] micmix : trading: API is fine, no problems with my bots
[2016-03-14 07:46:12] kb1985 : BitMEX_Arthur: ticket sent
[2016-03-14 07:46:50] BitMEX_Arthur : kb1985: We will deal with that shortly, thanks
[2016-03-14 07:52:59] trading : now is back. Maybe a network issue in the middle
[2016-03-14 08:01:30] kb1985 : so ETH going up on other exchanges I guess, I was thinking there will be mega dump after yesterday's
[2016-03-14 08:01:32] kb1985 : good to know
[2016-03-14 08:01:57] kb1985 : still not touching it yet ;)
[2016-03-14 08:02:25] BitMEX_Arthur : We have a 50x Daily Ether / Bitcoin futures contract in BitMEX testnet, launch date TBD
[2016-03-14 08:02:30] BitMEX_Arthur : `ETH24H`
[2016-03-14 08:02:47] BitMEX_Jinming : kb1985: Your withdrawal request is canceled now.
[2016-03-14 08:02:56] kb1985 : BitMEX_Jinming: thank you
[2016-03-14 08:03:18] kb1985 : BitMEX_Arthur: 50x? this is going to be insane, waiting for it :D
[2016-03-14 08:10:36] habibi : daily futures with about 74% ROE spread :D grreat, liquidations one after another
[2016-03-14 08:59:02] chromaticcr : BitMEX is a derivative exchange. Binary options, call/put.... and of course #REKT with degens! I can literally see BitMEX's future
[2016-03-14 09:18:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 201 @ 0.03152
[2016-03-14 09:22:31] kb1985 : aaaand ETH going up agaoin on Poloniex, small wave amplitude today
[2016-03-14 09:23:22] kb1985 : 313 to 326 and aback agaoin
[2016-03-14 09:59:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.03117 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 10:08:19] kb1985 : Poloniex down
[2016-03-14 10:09:01] arbitrage001 : kb1985: owner ran away?
[2016-03-14 10:09:10] kb1985 : arbitrage001: no, probably dDOS, no worries
[2016-03-14 10:09:45] kb1985 : and it is back online
[2016-03-14 10:09:47] arbitrage001 : coincide with eth going down
[2016-03-14 10:11:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.03137
[2016-03-14 10:12:45] kb1985 : It's funny that it goes in predicatable waves today.
[2016-03-14 10:13:25] kb1985 : seriously? ddos again?
[2016-03-14 10:13:34] kb1985 : it works through api though
[2016-03-14 10:14:17] kb1985 : would be pretty convenient for them to disappear on Homestead day, I hope they ae sreious enoghu not to do somethin liek that
[2016-03-14 10:18:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.03234
[2016-03-14 10:29:27] kb1985 : Poloniex down third time in a row.
[2016-03-14 10:30:07] kb1985 : This is why there shoudl be more and more exchanges and BitMEX should be popularized to. We can not afford ituation with 2 excahgnes holding mayority of traded ETH, one of them running away = proejct dead.
[2016-03-14 10:34:19] splash : this is like the old days
[2016-03-14 10:34:40] splash : spectacular moves and then the exhcange goes down because of DDOS
[2016-03-14 10:34:45] kb1985 : It's good as long as they don't gox us.
[2016-03-14 10:34:52] Teddy76 : Polo have more than 11.000.000 ETH on their cold wallet
[2016-03-14 10:35:01] Teddy76 : 1/7 of Ether supply
[2016-03-14 10:35:14] kb1985 : Then why woudl they steal funds - they know it woudl bring the price of stolen funds down, so no point to do this.
[2016-03-14 10:36:24] kb1985 : I mean, why would Poloniex disappear with the funds today when that woudl probably tank the price so much that they wouldn't make much profit from it anyway. Unless they are targeting BTC. Let's hope this is just a coincidence.
[2016-03-14 10:36:39] splash : i dont think polo would go away 2 day
[2016-03-14 10:36:45] Teddy76 : no, me too
[2016-03-14 10:36:54] splash : exactly this is fud
[2016-03-14 10:37:05] Teddy76 : no, facts
[2016-03-14 10:37:10] splash : no reason to make an exit scam yet
[2016-03-14 10:37:18] kb1985 : I really hope they won't. Invested too much in ETH.
[2016-03-14 10:37:31] kb1985 : But it would be perfect day to do this, before other exchanges launch ETH.
[2016-03-14 10:37:57] kb1985 : Let's hope this is just some random DDOS attacke orchesrated by envious bitcoiners. ;)
[2016-03-14 10:40:30] splash : any deve here that i can talk to privately?
[2016-03-14 10:40:39] splash : its neither related ti bitmix nor trading
[2016-03-14 10:40:59] splash : i have some questions about web sec :D
[2016-03-14 10:41:23] splash : i understand if you donyt have time to talk about it though, so no hard feelings ;)
[2016-03-14 10:41:42] trestres : mark prices here are from POLO or ?
[2016-03-14 10:41:48] Teddy76 : trestres: yes
[2016-03-14 10:42:04] splash : trestres. factom is
[2016-03-14 10:42:14] Teddy76 : trestres: Polo and Kraken failover normally
[2016-03-14 10:43:04] trestres : even now?
[2016-03-14 10:43:42] splash : trestres: ETHXBT2H also on pol
[2016-03-14 10:44:46] splash : trestres: click Trade -> More Details (link under Contract Details) -'> Clik on the link
[2016-03-14 10:46:09] trestres : splash: I know it... but I cannot connect myself with POLO (because ddos)
[2016-03-14 10:49:18] kb1985 : if you inveted in eth better keep fingers crossed for poloniex otherwise we are doomed
[2016-03-14 10:50:17] kb1985 : I was goxxed once, dont want another mt gox scenario
[2016-03-14 10:50:44] trestres : kb1985: sure.... or somebody like to push people to sell them!
[2016-03-14 10:53:20] kb1985 : here peple are discussin the poloniex gox scenario https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4acihy/polo_ddos_again/
[2016-03-14 10:55:01] Lynchy : bitmex isnt processing my withdrawal
[2016-03-14 10:55:07] Lynchy : anyone else having problems?
[2016-03-14 10:55:21] kb1985 : Lynchy: it processes it once a day
[2016-03-14 10:55:22] BitMEX_Arthur : Lynchy: Withdrawals are processed once per day at 13:00 UTC
[2016-03-14 10:55:35] Lynchy : oh okay, wasnt aware ty
[2016-03-14 10:55:50] trestres : Teddy76: How to know ETH quantity in POLO cold wallet?
[2016-03-14 10:56:18] Teddy76 : trestres: http://etherscan.io/address/0xb794f5ea0ba39494ce839613fffba74279579268
[2016-03-14 10:56:38] trestres : Teddy76: tnks
[2016-03-14 10:56:40] kb1985 : Last time when attack on Polo happene dthey reimbursed peopel from cold wallest
[2016-03-14 10:58:53] kb1985 : Well, another lesson not to hold on the exhange
[2016-03-14 10:59:54] trestres : BitMEX_Arthur: will you connect ETH7D mark prices to Kraken?
[2016-03-14 11:00:05] kb1985 : but of both Poloniex and Kraken Kraken seemd always worese to me
[2016-03-14 11:04:06] BitMEX_Arthur : trestres: If there is a prolonged period of down time
[2016-03-14 11:04:27] trestres : BitMEX_Arthur: tnks
[2016-03-14 11:15:58] kb1985 : Question to people familiar with Cloudflare. Is it normal that cloudflare is up but Poloniex is don? I am really stressed here so tthat's why so many questions
[2016-03-14 11:16:50] Teddy76 : kb1985: make a coffee and calm down ;)
[2016-03-14 11:17:00] Teddy76 : no reason for panic
[2016-03-14 11:17:12] kb1985 : Teddy76: trying to ;) but you have to rememver i was goxxed in 2014 by mount gox
[2016-03-14 11:17:30] Teddy76 : Busoni isn't Karpeles :D
[2016-03-14 11:18:41] Teddy76 : Just BFX who wants to drive volume for Ether, what best way to DDOS Polo? :D :D
[2016-03-14 11:25:27] kb1985 : seriously, if this turns out good i am closing my longs on polo (been riding the wave since 0.016) and taking my ETH and BTC out of polo
[2016-03-14 11:26:12] Teddy76 : best way to not panic ;)
[2016-03-14 11:26:22] rapidtrades : what's going on with polo
[2016-03-14 11:26:32] Teddy76 : DDOSed
[2016-03-14 11:27:00] rapidtrades : good..f*ck that shithole
[2016-03-14 11:27:25] rapidtrades : prolly the eth guys mad cos their coin's crashing
[2016-03-14 11:27:36] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: told the guy who trade on BTC-E :D
[2016-03-14 11:36:57] boogi : when do bitmex process their withdrawals for the day?
[2016-03-14 11:37:37] kb1985 : 13 UTC AFAIR
[2016-03-14 11:37:44] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq#when-are-bitcoin-withdrawals-processed
[2016-03-14 11:38:05] habibi : its really so easy to find
[2016-03-14 11:39:07] boogi : it was easier to type it in here
[2016-03-14 11:39:09] boogi : thank you
[2016-03-14 11:39:16] kb1985 : :)
[2016-03-14 11:39:23] rapidtrades : habibi: any trades on hajibi?
[2016-03-14 11:40:27] BitMEX_Sam : Morning traders
[2016-03-14 11:40:39] BitMEX_Sam : Withdrawals will be processed in 80 minutes
[2016-03-14 11:40:55] habibi : rapidtrades: nah, still on eth from time to time
[2016-03-14 11:41:47] tscha : BitMEX_Sam: was this an automated message?
[2016-03-14 11:41:54] BitMEX_Sam : tscha: No
[2016-03-14 11:42:11] BitMEX_Sam : Although that's not a bad idea.
[2016-03-14 11:42:14] tscha : would be a good idea to have a bot remember users
[2016-03-14 11:42:43] kb1985 : It would be fun to implement "No" as an automated answer to question "Is this an automated message?" :D
[2016-03-14 11:42:52] kb1985 : Unless this already jappenad,
[2016-03-14 11:42:53] kb1985 : :D
[2016-03-14 11:43:23] tscha : They spent all their profits on natural language processing and neural networks... BitMEX_Greg is the result
[2016-03-14 11:43:29] tscha : still in alpha though :)
[2016-03-14 11:44:17] tscha : new "employee" running on 15 GPUs
[2016-03-14 11:44:30] kb1985 : while mining coins while idle ;)
[2016-03-14 11:44:43] habibi : we had even community manager for a while, was it Greg? ;p
[2016-03-14 11:44:55] kb1985 : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4acr6q/for_concerned_people_im_looking_for_all_cold/
[2016-03-14 11:50:38] tscha : 9 trades on XBT48h in the last 22 hours :(
[2016-03-14 11:54:11] kb1985 : OK, eth getting boring now ;)
[2016-03-14 12:07:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.03249
[2016-03-14 12:11:12] yerb : ETH on finex is live guys
[2016-03-14 12:12:59] kb1985 : yerb: yeah I guess we know ;) still the topci of the day is poloniex
[2016-03-14 12:14:42] kb1985 : lol Kraken DDOS now, I bet if is bitfinex job :D
[2016-03-14 12:14:50] kb1985 : Kraken working now again
[2016-03-14 12:14:59] habibi : i bet its not
[2016-03-14 12:20:42] jung1 : hard ddos
[2016-03-14 12:20:52] jung1 : imo will be quite big eth dump
[2016-03-14 12:25:17] trestres : jung1: and also increasing in rates
[2016-03-14 12:26:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 600 @ 0.03269
[2016-03-14 12:27:15] elmorte : @jung1 You don't think the market has adjusted already?
[2016-03-14 12:28:05] kb1985 : It all depends. Wild west here now.
[2016-03-14 12:28:16] kb1985 : People getting liquidated all the way both sides with such volatile market.
[2016-03-14 12:28:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 205 @ 0.03286
[2016-03-14 12:28:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 17 @ 0.03281
[2016-03-14 12:28:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 20 @ 0.03285
[2016-03-14 12:30:32] kb1985 : hmm, ETH 0.0345 on Bitfinex
[2016-03-14 12:30:42] habibi : 334
[2016-03-14 12:31:15] kb1985 : habibi: link? I am looking here, but never used thier site bffefore
[2016-03-14 12:31:19] kb1985 : https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/stats
[2016-03-14 12:31:26] habibi : https://www.bitfinex.com/exchange/index/ethbtc
[2016-03-14 12:31:32] kb1985 : thx
[2016-03-14 12:31:38] habibi : make acc first
[2016-03-14 12:32:24] kb1985 : I guess Bitfinex if the new Poloniex ie. market leader
[2016-03-14 12:33:05] habibi : maybe it will be but its not atm. wait for volume
[2016-03-14 12:37:10] elmorte : finex slooow to load too...
[2016-03-14 12:38:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.03383 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 12:47:28] jung1 : damn eth cant into dump
[2016-03-14 12:47:41] jung1 : im now eth its a bit overvalued
[2016-03-14 12:48:05] jung1 : but price grow really stable
[2016-03-14 12:48:52] jung1 : and nice discount on bts and maid today
[2016-03-14 12:49:33] jung1 : habibi: $100 incomming
[2016-03-14 13:00:14] habibi : jung1: yea yea :D
[2016-03-14 13:02:57] Plasma : so did BTC fork?
[2016-03-14 13:03:06] habibi : ?
[2016-03-14 13:03:22] Plasma : isnt there a fork today?
[2016-03-14 13:04:28] rapidtrades : Plasma: your mom forked
[2016-03-14 13:05:08] jung1 : Plasma: end of july
[2016-03-14 13:06:24] habibi : jung1: what fork?
[2016-03-14 13:06:28] rapidtrades : jung1: are u still holding that shitcoin?
[2016-03-14 13:07:40] Plasma : rapidtrades: nice one dude, let me guess? Fat and no friends?
[2016-03-14 13:08:26] rapidtrades : Plasma: ur mom's my friend
[2016-03-14 13:09:17] Plasma : rapidtrades: go play in traffic
[2016-03-14 13:11:36] jung1 : rapidtrades: shure. I have eth, fct, maid and bts for longterm
[2016-03-14 13:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 173 @ 0.03322
[2016-03-14 13:12:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 111 @ 0.03230
[2016-03-14 13:12:16] jung1 : and decided to rebuy on luws
[2016-03-14 13:12:17] jung1 : lows
[2016-03-14 13:12:32] jung1 : habibi: bitcoin halving
[2016-03-14 13:12:34] jung1 : and fork
[2016-03-14 13:16:37] jung1 : maid have potential to go x4 x5 up in few months imo
[2016-03-14 13:16:39] jung1 : dct as well
[2016-03-14 13:17:23] sleger : doge as well
[2016-03-14 13:17:52] sleger : ripple and litecoin to be x100 by year end
[2016-03-14 13:18:44] sleger : feels like we are on polo trollbox, so sad :(
[2016-03-14 13:21:26] rapidtrades : sleger: there was this pleb earlier, bought 30% of ETH open interest
[2016-03-14 13:21:55] rapidtrades : i mean sold....then he market exited and was like SCAM SITE STOLE MY MONIES
[2016-03-14 13:23:08] sleger : 30% of open interest here i assume ?
[2016-03-14 13:23:15] rapidtrades : sleger: yes
[2016-03-14 13:23:22] sleger : good thing
[2016-03-14 13:23:50] jung1 : sleger: *ftc
[2016-03-14 13:24:22] jung1 : sleger: so what you want to talk about here if not altcoins?
[2016-03-14 13:24:36] jung1 : what have you for breakfast today?
[2016-03-14 13:24:39] jung1 : was good?
[2016-03-14 13:24:40] sleger : jung1: you trying to compete with habibi ?
[2016-03-14 13:24:52] jung1 : not even try
[2016-03-14 13:25:24] sleger : you're dumber in dumb and dumber ?
[2016-03-14 13:25:45] sleger : you should invest more in those coins, the more invest the sooner you'll be out of here
[2016-03-14 13:26:00] rapidtrades : lol he's so salty today
[2016-03-14 13:26:02] jung1 : http://bitcoinist.net/xapo-president-ted-rogers-blasts-blockstream-and-mentions-ethereum/
[2016-03-14 13:26:21] rapidtrades : did u crash your maserati bro?
[2016-03-14 13:26:29] sleger : if bitcoiners are children, then altcoiners are babies ?
[2016-03-14 13:26:31] jung1 : sleger: wtf you have bad day? withraw some coins and go for some girl
[2016-03-14 13:26:47] sleger : jung1: very asian thing of you to say
[2016-03-14 13:26:58] sleger : taking advantage of poor girls who have no choice
[2016-03-14 13:27:28] jung1 : or boy dont know what you like
[2016-03-14 13:27:35] jung1 : but dont act like an asshole
[2016-03-14 13:27:45] sleger : my day is great, it's just painful to read 5 messages in a row from you talking about shitcoin x and y
[2016-03-14 13:28:13] jung1 : someone have to write there
[2016-03-14 13:28:14] rapidtrades : sleger: shouldn't be too hard on jung1, he's the best of the altcoiners here
[2016-03-14 13:28:23] jung1 : good that I dont give a fuck about your opinion
[2016-03-14 13:28:27] sleger : rapidtrades: my maserati has been in maserati heaven for a while now
[2016-03-14 13:28:30] rapidtrades : the rest of them are like ''BUY BUY BUY'' or ''SELL''
[2016-03-14 13:29:19] rapidtrades : like that clueless Plasma guy
[2016-03-14 13:29:22] jung1 : and its funny couse bitcoin is altcoins as well
[2016-03-14 13:29:47] sleger : couse ? is it a word like "shure" ?
[2016-03-14 13:29:47] jung1 : any you act like some wannabe pro and only legit bitcoin trader
[2016-03-14 13:30:23] sleger : "bitcoin is altcoins as well", isnt that the opposite of the definition of altcoins actually ??
[2016-03-14 13:30:24] jung1 : bitcoin is funny internet money and even on biggest exchanges there a "trollbox" not a "chat"
[2016-03-14 13:30:39] jung1 : sleger: what is official definition of altcoins?
[2016-03-14 13:30:52] sleger : coin alternative to bitcoin ?
[2016-03-14 13:31:08] jung1 : so coin alternative to dollar is wrong one?
[2016-03-14 13:31:13] rapidtrades : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/altcoin.asp
[2016-03-14 13:31:35] sleger : jung1: read the link he posted idiot
[2016-03-14 13:32:12] rapidtrades : sleger: cmon that's a bit harsh
[2016-03-14 13:32:13] jung1 : bitocoin is open source and there is no one legit definition. Theres even couple of version to name 0.00000001 bitcoin
[2016-03-14 13:32:26] jung1 : sleger: dont be so swager
[2016-03-14 13:32:44] rapidtrades : he's extra salty today dunno what's wrong
[2016-03-14 13:32:49] sleger : whats wrong with calling a cat a cat ?
[2016-03-14 13:33:09] jung1 : and eth is not altcoin cous eth is token not a currency
[2016-03-14 13:33:31] sleger : cous is not a word, couscous is though
[2016-03-14 13:35:00] rapidtrades : jung1: if eth is not a currency then what are we trading?
[2016-03-14 13:35:17] jung1 : officially tokens
[2016-03-14 13:35:53] jung1 : so as you can see naming in bitcoin and blockchain fields are a bit hard
[2016-03-14 13:35:57] rapidtrades : jung1: tokens to do what
[2016-03-14 13:36:15] jung1 : to make work of eth network possible
[2016-03-14 13:36:22] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: you really don't know what is ethereum?
[2016-03-14 13:36:33] jung1 : if you will make some app on eth blockchain you will have to destroy some eth
[2016-03-14 13:37:07] jung1 : so we are trading kind of fuel of new internet
[2016-03-14 13:37:09] jung1 : #bigthings
[2016-03-14 13:37:38] rapidtrades : sounds too complex to work
[2016-03-14 13:38:14] jung1 : but market cap is already 1bln
[2016-03-14 13:38:16] habibi : jung1: so in case it will be too expensive to spend gas on daps why wouldnt u simple create alternative chain of eth ?
[2016-03-14 13:38:18] jung1 : so it works
[2016-03-14 13:38:28] jung1 : you will
[2016-03-14 13:38:41] jung1 : but its same as bitcoin back in '11 -'12 now
[2016-03-14 13:38:53] jung1 : with all the altcoins based on bitcoin and litecoin
[2016-03-14 13:39:04] Teddy76 : rapidtrades: you made my day ROFL
[2016-03-14 13:39:09] jung1 : but eth have much more features and its easier
[2016-03-14 13:39:22] habibi : The ever increasing price of ETH seems to be a major danger to Ethereum, as it will/would be cheaper to run on a ethereum clone
[2016-03-14 13:39:32] habibi : quoted from post
[2016-03-14 13:39:45] jung1 : yes it is
[2016-03-14 13:39:57] jung1 : but we will see what future brings
[2016-03-14 13:39:57] habibi : aka high value is not helping this tech at all in case of actual use
[2016-03-14 13:40:16] jung1 : agree
[2016-03-14 13:40:25] jung1 : but bubbles are good also
[2016-03-14 13:40:57] jung1 : its new one and we cant compare it with anything
[2016-03-14 13:41:04] jung1 : so a lot of things could go wrong
[2016-03-14 13:41:19] jung1 : but its cool to watch it how it's born
[2016-03-14 13:41:24] jung1 : 2y ago was just a concept
[2016-03-14 13:41:32] jung1 : and now its worth over 1bln $
[2016-03-14 13:44:29] jung1 : btw ETH/CNY market https://trans.chbtc.com/eth
[2016-03-14 13:44:39] jung1 : happy PI day 3.14
[2016-03-14 13:48:40] sleger : 9 posts in a row again... should be a limit to that, spammer
[2016-03-14 13:54:34] jung1 : dude I found a solution for you. you have to go in right upper cornet of this window, click on your nick, then "log off" and next open window in your basement and throw your laptop
[2016-03-14 13:54:40] jung1 : let me know if it will help
[2016-03-14 13:54:41] jung1 : cheers
[2016-03-14 13:56:48] chromaticcr1 : The best part: The fuel is indefinitely mine-able. Sounds like DOGECOIN! MUCH WOW
[2016-03-14 14:00:54] rapidtrades : MM are really f*cking with the Euro today
[2016-03-14 14:01:02] jung1 : finex add eth today also
[2016-03-14 14:06:30] rapidtrades : well looks like options expired so hopefully this b1tch will drop like a rock now
[2016-03-14 14:07:37] jung1 : hope so
[2016-03-14 14:07:53] jung1 : but its not 100% it will
[2016-03-14 14:08:01] jung1 : eth cant into dump
[2016-03-14 14:08:20] zanza : Yuan dumped a bit too
[2016-03-14 14:08:28] rapidtrades : was talking about the Euro @jung1
[2016-03-14 14:08:38] jung1 : oh
[2016-03-14 14:08:53] jung1 : yeah thats also
[2016-03-14 14:08:59] zanza : yesterday was ATH peak ETH volume I think
[2016-03-14 14:09:15] jung1 : will be fun to short euro if uk, grece and czech will quit euro
[2016-03-14 14:09:19] zanza : 7x `XBT24H` volume
[2016-03-14 14:09:33] zanza : which proves most people here are just gamblers :)
[2016-03-14 14:10:00] zanza : looking for volatility
[2016-03-14 14:14:56] jung1 : and eth its good bet for bitcoin alternative
[2016-03-14 14:15:09] sleger : you mean altcoin now
[2016-03-14 14:15:32] jung1 : if we will stay above 1bln euro market cap it will be not another bubble
[2016-03-14 14:15:35] sleger : you learned the definition of a word you've been using a lot, use it when its right now
[2016-03-14 14:26:31] rapidtrades : man if forex didn't have 100x leverage it would be such a waste of time
[2016-03-14 14:26:54] rapidtrades : 0.3% move since london open, what a joke
[2016-03-14 14:27:19] rapidtrades : guess i should move to trading oil
[2016-03-14 14:27:23] rapidtrades : or ETH idk
[2016-03-14 14:28:35] rapidtrades : 1 day of extreme volatility and 21 days of nothing....that's forex these days
[2016-03-14 14:51:41] LR3NZ : eth looks dumpy
[2016-03-14 14:54:05] chromaticcr1 : BTC borrowers are having a great time: http://imgur.com/dqq2Ugm
[2016-03-14 14:54:50] sleger : chromaticcr1: are you "shure" ?
[2016-03-14 14:55:08] sleger : or just completely wrong ?
[2016-03-14 14:55:56] chromaticcr1 : I am *pretty* sure
[2016-03-14 14:56:23] chromaticcr1 : ;)
[2016-03-14 14:56:24] sleger : btc borrowers borrow btc to sell them and buy altcoins, so maybe you want to revise your logic
[2016-03-14 14:56:36] sleger : *pretty* wrong
[2016-03-14 14:57:24] zanza : jung1 ETh is more centralized than Bitcoin, and also it does not have a cap on amount created (inflation) so I do not see it as bitcoin alternative
[2016-03-14 14:58:09] zanza : at most, in the future it can have some potential for smart contracts/etc but we talking 5-10 years, and also ETh relies on Bitcoin to be successful. if Bitcoin fails ETH doesn't have a change either
[2016-03-14 14:58:32] zanza : chance* just `my opinions` of course
[2016-03-14 14:58:57] zanza : Bitcoin use case, its limited fixed supply which is attractive
[2016-03-14 15:02:59] S410520 : hi, how can I determine liquidation price on orders I set? I tried to make sure it was yesterday but could not check it and now I discover it wasnt enough... -.-
[2016-03-14 15:03:19] S410520 : while I had enough on my account
[2016-03-14 15:03:43] S410520 : I cannot continue trading without knowing the liquidation (stop) price when I set the order
[2016-03-14 15:05:49] BitMEX_Sam : S410520: At this time you cannot see the liquidation price before you execute, but you can calculate it
[2016-03-14 15:06:10] S410520 : if I can calculate it, why cant you?
[2016-03-14 15:06:18] BitMEX_Sam : If you are running on fixed margin (selected leverage on the sidebar), it is easy to calculate - if you are running on cross margin, it is more complex
[2016-03-14 15:06:29] BitMEX_Sam : S410520: It can be estimated but it depends on the slippage of the order
[2016-03-14 15:06:32] S410520 : so its easy but you cant show it
[2016-03-14 15:07:10] S410520 : yeah, I cant work with that, thanks
[2016-03-14 15:09:32] sleger : S410520: do bitfinex or 0kcoin show the liq price you will have before you take the position ?
[2016-03-14 15:10:04] S410520 : 16:06 - S410520: so its easy but you cant show it
[2016-03-14 15:10:14] BitMEX_Sam : Actually this is something we could do,
[2016-03-14 15:10:22] BitMEX_Sam : I don't really see any reason why not, let me talk to Wally about the exact calculations so we can get it in
[2016-03-14 15:11:07] S410520 : great, thanks for checking
[2016-03-14 15:11:57] elmorte : Whoo, lively in here
[2016-03-14 15:12:02] LR3NZ : eth looks pumpy
[2016-03-14 15:12:20] elmorte : Shouldn't judge on the looks alone
[2016-03-14 15:35:48] KingJohal : How do i go long eth
[2016-03-14 15:39:29] BitMEX_Arthur : KingJohal: Deposit Bitcoin, then buy `ETH7D`
[2016-03-14 15:39:35] BitMEX_Arthur : You don't need Ether
[2016-03-14 15:39:45] BitMEX_Wally : KingJohal: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETH7D