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[2016-03-12 13:21:06] Mangalica : a lot of people have serious concerns and resorted to buying the ETH lottery ticket a while back
[2016-03-12 13:21:56] Mangalica : then you have the ones that see the volume and think "well it's either gonna be BTC or ETH then" and jump in
[2016-03-12 13:22:05] chromaticcr1 : wait for macros align -> pump. News out-> dump
[2016-03-12 13:22:32] chromaticcr1 : network base is not so easy to manipulate
[2016-03-12 13:25:09] arbitrage001 : eth is even more centralized than btc
[2016-03-12 13:25:14] arbitrage001 : when it comes to decision maing
[2016-03-12 13:25:18] arbitrage001 : making
[2016-03-12 13:25:39] arbitrage001 : so people betting eth replacing btc is making mistake
[2016-03-12 13:25:57] arbitrage001 : gamblers always lose
[2016-03-12 13:41:28] habibi : so other group betting eth will get rekt, will loose as well according to that logic? :p
[2016-03-12 13:42:20] arbitrage001 : habibi: everyone is guessing
[2016-03-12 13:47:11] elmorte : Polo's one confirmation doesn't really mean one confirmation, does it
[2016-03-12 13:47:53] elmorte : Ha, gods are listening!
[2016-03-12 15:13:19] rapidtrades : elmorte: gods of Wreckage maybe
[2016-03-12 15:18:50] BitMEX_Sam : ETH is moody
[2016-03-12 15:31:09] chromaticcr1 : clam before the storm
[2016-03-12 15:33:41] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: how about daily eth??
[2016-03-12 15:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 1000 @ 411.42
[2016-03-12 15:37:32] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: i guess what you want is 100x rather than settling every day
[2016-03-12 15:38:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 4000 @ 410.91
[2016-03-12 15:38:39] aethlios : chromaticcr1: daily settlement I prefer, works like an option expiring in 24H or less.
[2016-03-12 15:38:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 2000 @ 410.44
[2016-03-12 15:39:16] chromaticcr1 : aethlios: why would you prefer settling instead of having it closed by urself?
[2016-03-12 15:39:45] chromaticcr1 : even as a weekly, eth traces the underlying quite well imho
[2016-03-12 15:42:34] aethlios : chromaticcr1: because you can't close a big position easily. if I am long now 250 on 7D is difficult to close it, but if it expires in 2 hours is better. daily expiration works like a stop loss.
[2016-03-12 15:45:39] sleger : wow some people have no idea what an option is or even a stop loss
[2016-03-12 16:02:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 10 @ 408.15
[2016-03-12 16:05:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH16`: Sell 750 @ 413.52
[2016-03-12 17:04:21] zanza : https://twitter.com/bitcoin_comics/status/708544270966267904
[2016-03-12 17:15:55] laisee : zanza: games over. bitcoin lost.
[2016-03-12 17:46:45] 31133113 : hi
[2016-03-12 17:50:13] 31133113 : laisee: this ETH silliness will be hilarious when BTC surpasses 10k and ETH is still 8-9 dollars
[2016-03-12 18:01:20] rapidtrades : 31133113: did u make ur account when eth was 0.031133113?
[2016-03-12 18:01:43] rapidtrades : it's now 0.03256, sour grapes b1tch
[2016-03-12 18:08:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 477 @ 0.03273
[2016-03-12 18:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.00633
[2016-03-12 18:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1363 @ 0.03275
[2016-03-12 18:51:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 28 @ 0.03223
[2016-03-12 19:35:31] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: what would happen in u would catch a really bottom at mark price@eth - start liquidation and then price would go up above profit point, would u auto adjust to that point to take actual profit from liquidation?
[2016-03-12 19:37:29] habibi : nothing wrong about it, just asking :)
[2016-03-12 20:40:35] splash : hi habibi
[2016-03-12 20:41:04] splash : whats upp?
[2016-03-12 21:08:49] viptrader : buy buy buy ETH
[2016-03-12 21:20:07] rapidtrades : ^this fecking guy...
[2016-03-12 21:25:58] splash : yea that eth was going up was kind of no brainer
[2016-03-12 21:26:28] splash : odds of btc going down at least 10% also at least 75% probability so no wonder we got a retrace here
[2016-03-12 21:27:19] splash : check the chat logs n c that im not making things up
[2016-03-12 21:27:49] splash : to bad im only loosing money
[2016-03-12 21:28:07] splash : dont get it
[2016-03-12 21:28:31] splash : i say one thing on the chat and do the other thing on the trades
[2016-03-12 21:44:05] viptrader : BUY BUY BUY ETH
[2016-03-12 22:14:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 298 @ 0.03287
[2016-03-12 22:22:56] rapidtrades : u know before this latest surge we had some intelligent discussion about eth here...
[2016-03-12 22:23:15] rapidtrades : that guy jung would post reasonable reasons why eth is a good coin...
[2016-03-12 22:23:25] rapidtrades : NOW we have this tool spamming BUY BUY BUY
[2016-03-12 22:32:22] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: BUY BUY BUY BTC
[2016-03-12 22:33:04] BTCDJS : MINE MINE MINE ETH
[2016-03-12 23:47:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 640 @ 0.03289
[2016-03-13 00:08:46] Bauer : Hi! Any admins/mods here to help with a problem?
[2016-03-13 00:09:47] Bauer : Sorry, never mind. Seems that it sorted it self out =)
[2016-03-13 00:30:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 6484 @ 0.03329
[2016-03-13 00:30:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.00569
[2016-03-13 00:31:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 6000 @ 0.00565
[2016-03-13 00:32:26] Mangalica : new ATH...
[2016-03-13 00:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 7 @ 0.03363
[2016-03-13 00:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.03377
[2016-03-13 00:40:52] rapidtrades : anyone logged in polo right now?
[2016-03-13 00:44:26] mrnet : no
[2016-03-13 00:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.03464
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1743 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 00:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.03475
[2016-03-13 01:05:26] rapidtrades : 0.034 gentlemen...we've hit a new milestone for this shitcoin
[2016-03-13 01:06:28] rapidtrades : $ 1,087,318,413 market cap
[2016-03-13 01:06:31] rapidtrades : cos why not
[2016-03-13 01:07:02] rapidtrades : a cool billion for a coin that's not accepted anymore but exchanges...to sell to other fools
[2016-03-13 01:07:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 350 @ 0.03465
[2016-03-13 01:08:58] rapidtrades : god bless America
[2016-03-13 01:09:01] rapidtrades : and no place else
[2016-03-13 01:49:21] elmorte : Shouldn't have gone to sleep with a short, heh
[2016-03-13 02:21:56] peasant-wizard : Where can I see the profit or loss of my last trade? I see CashSettlement in Wallet and Trade History...
[2016-03-13 02:28:05] rapidtrades : trade history
[2016-03-13 02:30:38] rapidtrades : what's the current lending rate for btc on polo?
[2016-03-13 02:32:56] j8 : rapidtrades: 0.3% or so
[2016-03-13 02:41:28] viptrader : sell sell sell ETH
[2016-03-13 03:03:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 868 @ 0.03514
[2016-03-13 03:32:18] 31133113 : hi, in the Recent Trades how come some trades are in black?
[2016-03-13 03:32:51] 31133113 : rapidtrades: 0.3%
[2016-03-13 03:33:27] BitMEX_Wally : 31133113: Black means the price stayed the same
[2016-03-13 04:02:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1600 @ 0.03544
[2016-03-13 04:12:38] 31133113 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-03-13 05:29:24] neodmt : Hello can someone let me know if you can loan btc on bitmex?
[2016-03-13 05:34:40] j8 : neodmt: you can't, although occasionally we have people begging for loans in the trollbox
[2016-03-13 05:39:04] gaoMex : Would like to earn basis between XBT Mar and Jun contracts
[2016-03-13 05:39:33] gaoMex : can the appropriate MM please update the books?
[2016-03-13 05:59:34] gaoMex : Can the spread be tigther?
[2016-03-13 06:00:06] gaoMex : There isn't any basis to earn if the spread is so wide
[2016-03-13 06:34:23] chromaticcr : lol
[2016-03-13 09:06:17] BitcoinLIFE : Guys how does ETH margin work? Why does it say 'Every Friday' am I not allowed to open a position today?
[2016-03-13 09:10:56] BitcoinLIFE : I can't deposit ETH?
[2016-03-13 09:11:08] BitcoinLIFE : How do people sell ETH then? What........
[2016-03-13 09:18:55] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: you only need Bitcoin
[2016-03-13 09:19:10] BitMEX_Arthur : deposit some Bitcoin then sell ETH7D
[2016-03-13 09:19:22] BitMEX_Arthur : you profit will be in Bitcoin as well
[2016-03-13 09:20:12] BitMEX_Arthur : you can open a position today but it will expire and settle on Friday
[2016-03-13 09:22:45] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: I wouldn't be able to close position earlier?
[2016-03-13 09:34:26] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Nor am I able to deposit ETH at all?
[2016-03-13 09:35:10] BitcoinLIFE : BitMEX_Arthur: Can I know if there are any changes coming in regards the all the points I brought up tomorrow being Homestead release?
[2016-03-13 09:41:20] Mangalica : of course you can close any time
[2016-03-13 09:43:28] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Will I also take my loss or profit along with the close on the position? Or is it a case of, if I close the position prior to Friday then I wont earn the profit.
[2016-03-13 09:45:47] Mangalica : Yes your p&l will materialize when you close it. You might not be able to withdraw all of your profit before Friday's settlement but that's all.
[2016-03-13 09:47:10] Mangalica : Say you made 5 BTC profit, it will appear in your account as such, but you might only be able to withdraw 2 BTC of it during the week and 3 BTC (all of it) after settlement.
[2016-03-13 09:51:33] Mangalica : Settlement basically unwinds all positions and brings the books to 0. No more floating p&l.
[2016-03-13 09:53:24] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: Beautiful (y). My last question is, by your experience, how long does it take for BTC to show up in my wallet here?
[2016-03-13 09:54:42] Mangalica : 1 confirmation (~10 minutes)
[2016-03-13 09:55:01] Mangalica : 10 mins on average, anyway
[2016-03-13 10:04:42] BitcoinLIFE : Mangalica: (Y) Amazing. Thank you for everything! Bless
[2016-03-13 10:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBT48H`: Buy 10000 @ 414.56
[2016-03-13 11:42:04] rapidtrades : good mornong fellas
[2016-03-13 11:42:12] chromaticcr1 : yo
[2016-03-13 11:48:57] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: you wake up on time everyday for the settlement?
[2016-03-13 11:49:24] rapidtrades : i try
[2016-03-13 11:50:30] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: i would have fallen asleep by now...
[2016-03-13 11:54:45] rapidtrades : settlement has been shit since the roll got introduced
[2016-03-13 11:56:12] chromaticcr1 : coz no one is "locking in" their p&l
[2016-03-13 11:56:41] habibi : noone playing here on btc anymore kinda, a bit bots wars only
[2016-03-13 11:56:58] chromaticcr1 : depth = 15
[2016-03-13 11:57:25] chromaticcr1 : FINALLY!
[2016-03-13 11:57:33] rapidtrades : only 20k contract to close...and 15 just went out
[2016-03-13 12:05:44] chromaticcr1 : the 15k wasn't a close vs close
[2016-03-13 12:06:25] chromaticcr1 : it was just changing hands
[2016-03-13 12:08:52] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: yeah didn't think smone would be that stupid
[2016-03-13 12:09:51] chromaticcr1 : we need more stupid people and poor risk managment ppl around
[2016-03-13 12:10:47] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: doesn't always help, just look at eth
[2016-03-13 12:12:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: i have hidden order, then someone post at same price order, i close order by X on orderbook and the X still remains there even order is closed
[2016-03-13 12:13:19] BitMEX_Wally : Sounds like a bug, if the order is not in Active Orders then it is canceled
[2016-03-13 12:14:31] habibi : yep, order is canceled, clicking x resumes with simple no order found information, anyway it updated now and its good
[2016-03-13 12:14:59] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, I have recreated
[2016-03-13 12:15:02] BitMEX_Wally : Will get Sam to fix
[2016-03-13 12:16:37] BitMEX_Wally : Displaying hidden orders in the order book is tricky at best
[2016-03-13 12:17:04] BitMEX_Wally : It kind of works if there is another order, but we should probably disable it until we come up with a proper solution
[2016-03-13 12:17:42] BitMEX_Wally : Thanks for letting us know
[2016-03-13 12:22:48] chromaticcr1 : polo's rate is going down, madness over?
[2016-03-13 12:25:48] Mangalica : almost 4.5k BTC available to borrow
[2016-03-13 12:26:07] Mangalica : highest ever i've seen
[2016-03-13 12:27:24] chromaticcr1 : good luck with those coins
[2016-03-13 12:32:17] rapidtrades : whatts the rate yo
[2016-03-13 12:36:12] Mangalica : 0.23 ish
[2016-03-13 12:36:32] elmorte : https://poloniex.com/lending#BTC Don't have to be logged in
[2016-03-13 13:27:49] rapidtrades : now down to 0.2%, dropping pretty fast
[2016-03-13 13:30:11] rapidtrades : large dis-balance, they'll prolly keep falling
[2016-03-13 13:48:08] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: i've watched polo's rate fluctuate a good bit, even had fills at 1% and 2%. I've some out right now at 0.4%. Wouldn't say the party is over quite yet
[2016-03-13 13:58:42] Plasma : @NukeLaloosh , what the end game?
[2016-03-13 14:04:38] NukeLaloosh : ha! if i only knew. ask the smart guys...
[2016-03-13 14:24:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBT24H`: Sell 25 @ 413.01
[2016-03-13 14:32:15] arbitrage001 : is finex down?
[2016-03-13 14:35:06] aethlios : arbitrage001: no
[2016-03-13 14:35:59] arbitrage001 : having trouble loading the site
[2016-03-13 14:38:36] eth2mars : guys, i just registered. any chart available? can't locate
[2016-03-13 14:53:01] habibi : hard to miss chart on new ui
[2016-03-13 15:02:34] chromaticcr1 : arbitrage001: got response!
[2016-03-13 15:03:38] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: what did they say
[2016-03-13 15:04:33] chromaticcr1 : Hereyou go
[2016-03-13 15:04:34] chromaticcr1 : http://imgur.com/5def67t
[2016-03-13 15:04:43] chromaticcr1 : Bunch-a-crap? i guess
[2016-03-13 15:08:04] chromaticcr1 : What do you think? Time for black swan?
[2016-03-13 15:09:51] arbitrage001 : even bitfinex experience a few major cascading margin call with 4 to 1 leverage
[2016-03-13 15:10:10] arbitrage001 : what leverage polo give?
[2016-03-13 15:11:19] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: are you able to login finex? have been trying for the last 2 hours
[2016-03-13 15:12:03] chromaticcr1 : maint of polo: 20% (acc bust when 5x leveraged) maint of finex: 15% (=6.66x)
[2016-03-13 15:13:04] chromaticcr1 : A-OK
[2016-03-13 15:13:19] chromaticcr1 : response time ~10 seconds
[2016-03-13 15:17:28] rapidtrades : finex works fine here...but not gonna try to relogin :)
[2016-03-13 15:38:33] rapidtrades : ETA for ETH on finex?
[2016-03-13 15:38:47] habibi : 7 hours, 22 minutes or sth like that?
[2016-03-13 15:39:04] habibi : 8 hours 22 minutes, sorry
[2016-03-13 15:39:08] habibi : utc midnight
[2016-03-13 15:39:50] rapidtrades : so that's when btc lending rates will spike huh
[2016-03-13 15:41:04] rapidtrades : can I take btc loans now and offer them tonight to fomo-ers?
[2016-03-13 15:41:23] rapidtrades : I'm guessing that btc can't be lend out
[2016-03-13 15:41:39] habibi : margin trading will be online in next few days as a market will get liquid according to news
[2016-03-13 15:42:11] rapidtrades : but btc is already online so...
[2016-03-13 15:42:28] rapidtrades : and u need btc o buy eth no?
[2016-03-13 15:42:42] elmorte : It's in the finex announcement, there will be no margin trading immediately
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:42:53] elmorte : Only after a few days as @habibi said
[2016-03-13 15:42:56] rapidtrades : k
[2016-03-13 15:43:04] rapidtrades : party pooper
[2016-03-13 15:43:35] elmorte : But I guess you could lend it out now :)
[2016-03-13 15:44:55] elmorte : btc-e still down...would be interesting if they've added ETH when they come back
[2016-03-13 15:45:55] rapidtrades : elmorte: wtf i didn't even notice that
[2016-03-13 15:46:03] rapidtrades : that unreliable pos
[2016-03-13 15:46:16] elmorte : It's been a few hrs already
[2016-03-13 15:46:34] habibi : around 10
[2016-03-13 15:46:38] elmorte : I emptied out my account exactly 24 hrs ago
[2016-03-13 15:46:40] habibi : 10 hours*
[2016-03-13 15:47:06] rapidtrades : well that's not good
[2016-03-13 15:53:11] rapidtrades : a lot of my short exposure is on there too...so if they don't come back and we crash, it wont be pretty
[2016-03-13 16:27:14] kingscrown : free money guide https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/709052816682303488
[2016-03-13 16:30:34] rapidtrades : u spammer...90% of ur twitter is affiliate links
[2016-03-13 16:31:04] rapidtrades : the only thing free in this world is ur momma's herpes
[2016-03-13 16:39:38] 31133113 : hello Support, i saw on the Fees page there's a negative fee for makers. Wondering how come I see a Realized fee for my executed FCT limit trade?
[2016-03-13 16:41:10] Teddy76 : 31133113: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-03-13 16:44:41] 31133113 : Teddy76: thanks - i guess Realized P&L in the Positions tab is a cumulative of all trades
[2016-03-13 16:46:07] Teddy76 : Yes, since last settlement
[2016-03-13 16:49:19] BitcoinLIFE : Can you guys please vote http://strawpoll.me/7071802/r
[2016-03-13 16:49:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yes the Realised P&L in the position table is cumulative
[2016-03-13 16:54:09] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: is it true that Poloniex is under DDOS? your mark prices on ETH7D are in real time?
[2016-03-13 16:54:43] Plasma : something is going down
[2016-03-13 16:54:53] BitMEX_Wally : We saw a few timeouts on their API but we are getting live prices
[2016-03-13 16:55:09] BitMEX_Wally : If they go completely offline then we will fail over to using Kraken prices
[2016-03-13 16:55:11] trestres : ok tnks
[2016-03-13 16:55:57] Plasma : hey where is BitMex based out of
[2016-03-13 16:56:07] Plasma : cant do business with me cus im from US
[2016-03-13 16:56:11] BitMEX_Wally : Most of us are in Hong Kong
[2016-03-13 16:56:24] Plasma : nice
[2016-03-13 17:04:57] chromaticcr1 : just use a VPN and declare somewhere else lol
[2016-03-13 17:06:22] Plasma : i move to much btc for them not to notice
[2016-03-13 17:13:43] sleger : Plasma: more than 1k ?
[2016-03-13 17:14:49] sleger : and bitmex is a Seychelles company
[2016-03-13 17:15:56] Teddy76 : hey sleger
[2016-03-13 17:16:02] Teddy76 : can i ask you personal question?
[2016-03-13 17:16:05] chromaticcr1 : best way to launder: coins to BTCE, withdraw to BitMEX directly ;)
[2016-03-13 17:16:16] sleger : you can always ask i might not answer
[2016-03-13 17:16:22] Teddy76 : lol ok
[2016-03-13 17:16:49] Teddy76 : how do you do with tax office in France for BTC income?
[2016-03-13 17:17:27] sleger : i am not trading from a french entity
[2016-03-13 17:17:39] Teddy76 : ok
[2016-03-13 17:17:44] sleger : so i do not have anything to report to them, but the income is kept within a company
[2016-03-13 17:17:54] Teddy76 : ok
[2016-03-13 17:17:57] sleger : if I withdraw to my bank account then this becomes a taxable event
[2016-03-13 17:18:06] sleger : which in my case would be a like a divident payment
[2016-03-13 17:18:16] Teddy76 : nice
[2016-03-13 17:18:23] Teddy76 : it's what i'm looking for
[2016-03-13 17:18:37] Teddy76 : where is your company?
[2016-03-13 17:18:44] Teddy76 : Singapore?
[2016-03-13 17:19:05] sleger : uk
[2016-03-13 17:19:18] Teddy76 : thanks ;)
[2016-03-13 17:19:20] sleger : but if you are trading under your name you should declare them as regular income
[2016-03-13 17:19:26] sleger : uk doesnt tax bitcoin gains
[2016-03-13 17:19:52] Teddy76 : euro based account?
[2016-03-13 17:20:36] sleger : thats irrelevant tax wise
[2016-03-13 17:21:45] sleger : btw i made a mistake i said declare as regular income, i meant capital gains obviously
[2016-03-13 17:21:55] sleger : (for france)
[2016-03-13 17:22:58] arbitrage001 : is it easy for foreigner to open a uk bank account?
[2016-03-13 17:23:28] sleger : if you register a company yes
[2016-03-13 17:23:47] sleger : i already had existing relationship with a bank there so it was even easier in my case
[2016-03-13 17:24:09] arbitrage001 : can wire money in and out from abroad?
[2016-03-13 17:24:17] arbitrage001 : internet banking that is
[2016-03-13 17:24:29] sleger : of course, subject to regular banking laws
[2016-03-13 17:24:52] sleger : so if you wire in/out 100k gbp be prepared to answer some questions, but if you provide good answers its not an issue
[2016-03-13 17:27:07] sleger : dependign on where you're from / where you have residence UK is not likely to be the best choice though
[2016-03-13 17:27:34] arbitrage001 : which country is the best choice
[2016-03-13 17:27:38] sleger : look at BVI, Jersey etc
[2016-03-13 17:27:42] arbitrage001 : for bitcoin trading
[2016-03-13 17:27:50] sleger : arbitrage001: i just said, idepends where you're from and where you live
[2016-03-13 17:27:57] arbitrage001 : asia
[2016-03-13 17:28:18] sleger : then i dont really know, but bitmex chose seychelles for example
[2016-03-13 17:28:48] BitMEX_Wally : For regulations and tax, not for banking
[2016-03-13 17:29:10] arbitrage001 : sould like bbitmex choosing seychelees to shield them from potential legal problem
[2016-03-13 17:29:17] BitMEX_Wally : The legal system is French civil code with British procedural rules
[2016-03-13 17:29:20] sleger : and tax
[2016-03-13 17:29:27] arbitrage001 : should there be any problem down the road there is
[2016-03-13 17:29:41] sleger : probably legal + tax reason
[2016-03-13 17:30:04] BitMEX_Wally : Seychelles does not shield us from legal problems
[2016-03-13 17:30:28] sleger : it makes it a lot harder than to sue in HK though ?
[2016-03-13 17:32:00] BitMEX_Wally : It's the same
[2016-03-13 17:35:27] habibi : Dad would not agree with that Wally :p
[2016-03-13 17:41:45] viptrader : hello, is there a calulator for liquedation price
[2016-03-13 17:41:48] viptrader : ?
[2016-03-13 17:42:57] BitMEX_Wally : viptrader: Not yet but we'll add it
[2016-03-13 17:43:10] viptrader : BitMEX_Wally: thnx
[2016-03-13 17:43:26] viptrader : any idea where i could find one online?
[2016-03-13 17:44:48] BitMEX_Wally : You want to know the liquidation price before you open the position?
[2016-03-13 17:45:29] elmorte : Or increase the position :)
[2016-03-13 17:46:07] BitMEX_Wally : If you're on fixed leverage then it's quite easy to work out
[2016-03-13 17:46:48] BitMEX_Wally : The liquidation price will be (1/leverage)-maintMargin away from the avgEntryPrice
[2016-03-13 17:47:25] BitMEX_Wally : So if you're on 50x for XBT24H then (1/50)-0.0050 = 1.5%
[2016-03-13 17:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : So if you went long 50x at $400 your liquidation price would be 1.5% below that, i.e. $394
[2016-03-13 17:57:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1100 @ 0.00592
[2016-03-13 18:13:46] ikhouvandebloemen : Poor FCT long guy - I like though that you have this "REKT" bot!
[2016-03-13 18:18:46] ikhouvandebloemen : i wonder how this one happened? [2016-03-12 01:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.01
[2016-03-13 18:26:26] 31133113 : hmm
[2016-03-13 18:27:19] ikhouvandebloemen : BitMEX_Wally: so leveage 50 means 25% fees. why dont you take 0.1% like spot exchanges + (0.0x%? for risk)
[2016-03-13 18:40:07] j8 : ikhouvandebloemen: the liquidation wasn't at 0.01, it's just that the rekt bot wasn't using enough decimal places for a while.
[2016-03-13 19:03:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 199 @ 0.03488
[2016-03-13 19:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.03508
[2016-03-13 19:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 9 @ 0.03503
[2016-03-13 19:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 164 @ 0.00580
[2016-03-13 19:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00573
[2016-03-13 19:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.03479 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-13 19:26:11] zanza : time for `ETH` monthly
[2016-03-13 19:26:28] zanza : and quarterly
[2016-03-13 19:26:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 11 @ 0.03513
[2016-03-13 19:43:53] BitcoinLIFE : Liquidated long on ETH7D: Sell 1 @ 0.03479 ? ? How is this liquidated?
[2016-03-13 19:46:21] BitcoinLIFE : Also, how is the price of ETH7D 0.03588 When the actual price of ETH is 0.03490?
[2016-03-13 19:49:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.03543
[2016-03-13 19:49:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 27 @ 0.03544
[2016-03-13 19:51:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 3836 @ 0.03585
[2016-03-13 19:51:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 35 @ 0.03590
[2016-03-13 19:53:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 4 @ 0.03599 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-13 20:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 101 @ 0.00566
[2016-03-13 20:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 5 @ 0.03617
[2016-03-13 20:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.03618
[2016-03-13 20:18:52] splash : BitcoinLIFE: there is a difference. we're _not_ trading spot here, this is futs.
[2016-03-13 20:19:11] splash : that means that the price you see in the order book is a bet on the future price of the underlying asset
[2016-03-13 20:19:41] splash : which implies that it's not what the asset is worth today and it's not what the price is worth on another exchange
[2016-03-13 20:19:53] splash : and since price _is_ taken from another exchange, well...
[2016-03-13 20:21:17] splash : I guess theoretically speaking prices here on bitmex could drift off and become totally different then on other exchanges, even different then the one the fut is tracking BUT when the contract is settled on expiration, the price on the spot is used.
[2016-03-13 20:21:44] splash : hence. when a new futs is created your likely to see price drift away from spot and then back again
[2016-03-13 20:22:05] splash : at least this is my understanding. please correct me if im wrong, so that i can learn
[2016-03-13 20:23:17] splash : eth is going up. towards 0.06
[2016-03-13 20:23:54] splash : it is developing exactly as i thought it would do (and been writing here), but not chance id take part in that crazy thing
[2016-03-13 20:24:35] splash : when the floor drops, its going to be an air pocket, order book will dry up and you wont be able to exit the position.
[2016-03-13 20:24:43] splash : super dangerious
[2016-03-13 20:28:20] BitcoinLIFE : How do I close a position?
[2016-03-13 20:29:35] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: u can't, this is a buy&hold only platform
[2016-03-13 20:29:48] rapidtrades : inspired by Buffet
[2016-03-13 20:31:59] BitcoinLIFE : The moderators told me I could close positions
[2016-03-13 20:37:11] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: the moderators will tell you everything to make you trade
[2016-03-13 20:40:28] rapidtrades : just messing with you, open the same number of contracts the other way @BitcoinLIFE
[2016-03-13 20:40:54] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: I was just going to try that.
[2016-03-13 20:41:07] BitcoinLIFE : dope (Y)
[2016-03-13 20:49:51] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: what did u exit?
[2016-03-13 20:51:56] rapidtrades : btc-e back online, praise Shkreli
[2016-03-13 20:55:15] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: 5 contracts. I wasn't going to place a big order without knowing how this works
[2016-03-13 20:59:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.03704
[2016-03-13 20:59:23] tscha : XBT48H dead?
[2016-03-13 21:05:42] viptrader : wow ETH
[2016-03-13 21:12:58] rapidtrades : so i only see 2.6k btc now on offer....are u telling me these idiots borrowed 1.5k btc in 12 hrs
[2016-03-13 21:13:43] rapidtrades : that's 600k in real money...
[2016-03-13 21:16:34] habibi : so maybe sell the news will happen finally, anyway hard to be bear on that uptrend
[2016-03-13 21:19:52] Mangalica : Finex opens trading at noon tomorrow UTC
[2016-03-13 21:33:48] habibi : Mangalica: tomorrow not in 3 hours 30 minutes?
[2016-03-13 21:34:01] habibi : i mean its still tomorrow but u know
[2016-03-13 21:34:05] splash : habibi.. yea hard to be bearish. im sticking to my call i did the otherday
[2016-03-13 21:34:36] habibi : splash: could u remind it?
[2016-03-13 21:34:50] Mangalica : no habibi
[2016-03-13 21:35:38] Mangalica : it's at noon, not midnight
[2016-03-13 21:36:46] Mangalica : so about 14hours and 30 mins from now
[2016-03-13 21:37:37] habibi : right, thanks for clarification, i was pretty sure news site was saying about midnight
[2016-03-13 21:38:27] splash : habibi, i thought price would pierce above 0.03 then go down and then go up again, only to keep on going up and shoot way above 0.05
[2016-03-13 21:38:44] splash : i also said i would Not buy it
[2016-03-13 21:39:37] habibi : so u see final rash straight to 0.05 without bigger corection?
[2016-03-13 21:39:41] splash : because from 0.03 to 0.06 its only x2 and should it crash, there would be no bid and it could kill u (at least erase profit)
[2016-03-13 21:40:50] splash : habibi: yea basically straight up to 0.06 without any major correction. with major i mean we're Not going to see a bear market.. instead price is only going tp pick up velocity and go faster and faster
[2016-03-13 21:40:55] splash : until the shoe drops
[2016-03-13 21:41:32] splash : people are going to take profits at 0.05 but the panic buying frenzy i going to kill all the shorters trying to short it at that level
[2016-03-13 21:41:37] splash : at least big risk of that
[2016-03-13 21:43:04] splash : i still think btc has 75% odds of correction minus 10%. if that happen, it would make a beautiful picutre. eth going to 0.05 and btc going down
[2016-03-13 21:43:25] splash : then the trade would reverse and smart money would sell eth and buy btc.
[2016-03-13 21:44:55] habibi : basically u sell eth for btc on major markets so no need to buy btc, taking profits otherwise should be ended by dumping btc as well, right?
[2016-03-13 21:45:25] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, small cosmetic bug: orders tab shows prices with only 2 decimals for Buys/Sells summary on FCT and ETH
[2016-03-13 21:50:24] splash : habibi. yea i think they will sell eth for btc. usd ont be as intresting
[2016-03-13 21:51:41] splash : of course everyone will by then think btc is going to die and eth is just "correcting"
[2016-03-13 21:52:26] splash : i remember when btc fell off 1000 and all the way down to sub 500 people we're talking about a "correction" that would "soon be over"
[2016-03-13 21:52:32] splash : same people probably now think btc has died
[2016-03-13 21:54:00] splash : im extremelt bullish on btc. we got sidechains and lightningnetwork. both these two, and in combination, will make it possible to scale bitcoin immensly.
[2016-03-13 21:55:16] habibi : we got a lot more basically, but yea https://elementsproject.org/
[2016-03-13 22:11:17] peasant-wizard : Is there a way to set alarms on BitMEX charts?
[2016-03-13 22:19:58] mrp1nk : peasant-wizard: use cryptowatch.ch
[2016-03-13 22:20:12] mrp1nk : *cryptowat.ch
[2016-03-13 22:21:16] peasant-wizard : mrp1nk: Thanks, I totally forgot they added BitMEX
[2016-03-13 22:30:28] tscha : "we got lightning"... lol
[2016-03-13 22:46:54] Acidyo : hey
[2016-03-13 22:47:18] Acidyo : how come when I buy more eth my liquidation price goes higher instead of my balance going lower?
[2016-03-13 22:48:07] Acidyo : i deposited 0.1 but it still says 0.1 available balance and I think it has bought with my profit on old contract instead of taking btc from my balance...
[2016-03-13 22:50:15] claudenobs : no such site
[2016-03-13 23:34:10] messiaen8844 : hmmm... ETH premiums on the rise
[2016-03-13 23:36:41] rapidtrades : huh first time im seeing a premium on eth
[2016-03-13 23:36:58] rapidtrades : that's not a quanto contarct is it?
[2016-03-13 23:37:28] micmix : rapidtrades: no, it's linear
[2016-03-13 23:37:59] rapidtrades : well guess ppl finally figured out where to long without paying 0.5% interest lol
[2016-03-13 23:39:25] micmix : premium going down a bit, I was selling at 0.037 when spot was 0.035
[2016-03-13 23:39:35] messiaen8844 : BTC 24h had a $40 dollar the day it topped at $500
[2016-03-13 23:40:05] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: nope
[2016-03-13 23:40:24] messiaen8844 : how much was it?
[2016-03-13 23:40:26] rapidtrades : actually yes, i wasn't here but i heard ppl say it was +$70
[2016-03-13 23:40:42] messiaen8844 : I sold at $540 , what was the stop pot?
[2016-03-13 23:40:44] messiaen8844 : *top
[2016-03-13 23:40:55] rapidtrades : idk 570?
[2016-03-13 23:41:59] rapidtrades : chart says 557 but zanza claimed 70 at one point
[2016-03-13 23:42:09] rapidtrades : $70 premium
[2016-03-13 23:42:13] micmix : ask side was almost empty, you can't say anything when there are no asks. I remember asks $50-$70 above spot
[2016-03-13 23:43:20] micmix : bid side was $30-$40 above spot at most
[2016-03-13 23:44:21] micmix : all MMs bailed
[2016-03-13 23:44:53] rapidtrades : bailed? or blew up?
[2016-03-13 23:45:34] micmix : got big short position and stopped quoting for a while
[2016-03-13 23:52:02] BitcoinLIFE : How do I place a short?
[2016-03-13 23:52:37] BitcoinLIFE : Everytime I try placing an order it says that it can't place it because I would be liquidated immediately, but the position I am making should earn me profit
[2016-03-13 23:53:21] messiaen8844 : do you have an open position?
[2016-03-13 23:53:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.03488
[2016-03-13 23:53:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.03489
[2016-03-13 23:53:40] BitcoinLIFE : messiaen8844: No, it wont let me.
[2016-03-14 00:19:59] viptrader : sell sell sell ERH
[2016-03-14 00:27:31] rapidtrades : still no eth on vrce
[2016-03-14 00:27:33] BitcoinLIFE : viptrader: You mean ETH?
[2016-03-14 00:27:55] rapidtrades : no ERH SELL THAT SHIT
[2016-03-14 00:36:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.03375
[2016-03-14 00:36:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 2796 @ 0.03374
[2016-03-14 00:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.03358
[2016-03-14 00:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.03348
[2016-03-14 00:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1100 @ 0.03349
[2016-03-14 00:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 350 @ 0.03352
[2016-03-14 00:37:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 40 @ 0.03313
[2016-03-14 00:37:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 15 @ 0.03312
[2016-03-14 00:37:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.03300
[2016-03-14 00:37:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.03294
[2016-03-14 00:37:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.03276
[2016-03-14 00:37:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 375 @ 0.03271
[2016-03-14 00:38:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.03254
[2016-03-14 00:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1400 @ 0.03243
[2016-03-14 00:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.03254
[2016-03-14 00:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.03259
[2016-03-14 00:47:54] rapidtrades : is the madness finally over?
[2016-03-14 00:48:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.03120
[2016-03-14 00:48:26] habibi : downmoon madness is way better
[2016-03-14 00:48:48] micmix : rapidtrades: I don't think so, people should still go long on finex
[2016-03-14 00:49:04] micmix : not enough money sucked in yet
[2016-03-14 00:49:13] rapidtrades : micmix: nah man, buy the rumor sell the news, done and done
[2016-03-14 00:49:24] rapidtrades : this is a dead coin walking at this point
[2016-03-14 00:49:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.03022
[2016-03-14 00:49:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.03042
[2016-03-14 00:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 600 @ 0.02980
[2016-03-14 00:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.02980
[2016-03-14 00:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 110 @ 0.02972
[2016-03-14 00:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.03001 :punch: :whale:
[2016-03-14 00:50:10] rapidtrades : cmon where's the btc rally
[2016-03-14 00:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 790 @ 0.00554
[2016-03-14 00:51:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.00558
[2016-03-14 00:51:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 390 @ 0.02880
[2016-03-14 00:51:48] rapidtrades : ahahaha fakum joining the carnage
[2016-03-14 00:51:56] habibi : just take a look at polo trollbox
[2016-03-14 00:52:01] rapidtrades : sec
[2016-03-14 00:52:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 53 @ 0.02851
[2016-03-14 00:52:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 57 @ 0.02845
[2016-03-14 00:52:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.02835
[2016-03-14 00:53:00] rapidtrades : ''i just lost my pension''
[2016-03-14 00:53:09] habibi : yea tons of comments like that :D
[2016-03-14 00:53:26] rapidtrades : game over, china selling
[2016-03-14 00:53:57] rapidtrades : ahahaha man this is hilarious
[2016-03-14 00:54:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 18 @ 0.00544
[2016-03-14 00:54:39] rapidtrades : ''Dream is over''
[2016-03-14 00:54:46] habibi : yea :D
[2016-03-14 00:54:52] rapidtrades : just few hrs ago they were all bullish wtf
[2016-03-14 00:56:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.02919
[2016-03-14 00:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.03024
[2016-03-14 00:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.00526
[2016-03-14 00:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 35 @ 0.00517
[2016-03-14 00:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.00521
[2016-03-14 00:57:48] BitcoinLIFE : When do I get my profit?
[2016-03-14 00:58:43] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: friday :)
[2016-03-14 00:59:16] kb1985 : Yeah, why some coins are locked? Can't withdraw them. Open a short at 400 ETH, had some profits, closed short and now want to withdraw it and can not do it. :/
[2016-03-14 00:59:24] kb1985 : Not sure how this works.
[2016-03-14 00:59:26] rapidtrades : yeah friday
[2016-03-14 00:59:31] habibi : just read https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2016-03-14 00:59:33] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: Lol you're funny for laughing. But thanks
[2016-03-14 00:59:34] habibi : or just wait for friday
[2016-03-14 00:59:44] kb1985 : So those coin are locked til l fireday depsite closing the short? OK.
[2016-03-14 00:59:45] rapidtrades : except for the 24h and the roll, all are on friday
[2016-03-14 00:59:50] kb1985 : Will I get email reminder? ;)
[2016-03-14 00:59:56] rapidtrades : kb1985: NO
[2016-03-14 01:00:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.02974
[2016-03-14 01:00:49] rapidtrades : i think only XBU releases profits right away?
[2016-03-14 01:01:07] habibi : true, and 50% of profit after session trading
[2016-03-14 01:01:29] rapidtrades : habibi: that's only for daily
[2016-03-14 01:01:39] habibi : nah, everywhere now
[2016-03-14 01:01:45] BitcoinLIFE : habibi: @rapidtrades Do I have a limit of times that I can close my positions or is it however I please to do so?
[2016-03-14 01:01:55] rapidtrades : habibi: ah didn't know that
[2016-03-14 01:02:28] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: what contract
[2016-03-14 01:02:42] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: ETH
[2016-03-14 01:03:02] rapidtrades : BitcoinLIFE: limit as in number of trades or time limit
[2016-03-14 01:04:14] rapidtrades : does anyone know what he's asking
[2016-03-14 01:06:29] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: Wait why does my closed position say that I'm at a -2.43BTC loss when I made 8 BTC with my position. Is this an error?
[2016-03-14 01:06:39] habibi : lel
[2016-03-14 01:06:45] BitcoinLIFE : WAIT WTF
[2016-03-14 01:06:54] BitcoinLIFE : THIS SHIT STOLE MY FUCKING MONEY
[2016-03-14 01:06:59] habibi : :D
[2016-03-14 01:07:08] habibi : calm down and take care
[2016-03-14 01:07:20] BitcoinLIFE : WHO THE FUCK IS THE MOTHR FCKNG MODERATORS OF THIS SHIT
[2016-03-14 01:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.03019
[2016-03-14 01:07:32] habibi : BitcoinLIFE: calm down and short some eth
[2016-03-14 01:07:44] BitcoinLIFE : habibi: I MOTHKR FKGING DID
[2016-03-14 01:07:56] habibi : go to order history
[2016-03-14 01:07:58] BitcoinLIFE : THIS SITE STOLE MY PROFITS AND MONEY.
[2016-03-14 01:07:59] habibi : and look what u did wrong
[2016-03-14 01:08:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.02916
[2016-03-14 01:08:30] BitcoinLIFE : i did nothing wrong. I closed my position in profit!
[2016-03-14 01:09:23] donkey : lol
[2016-03-14 01:09:24] micmix : BitcoinLIFE: do you have an open positions now?
[2016-03-14 01:09:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 497 @ 0.02812
[2016-03-14 01:10:22] BitcoinLIFE : micmix: No! I closed them all in profit!
[2016-03-14 01:10:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 110 @ 0.02878
[2016-03-14 01:10:58] rapidtrades : check ur trading history like habibi said @BitcoinLIFE
[2016-03-14 01:11:26] habibi : BitcoinLIFE: just do screenshot of orderhistory if u dont mind sharing it and we will tell u what happened
[2016-03-14 01:11:30] BitcoinLIFE : WTF YO. @rapidtrades I did rapid. I made a good move shorting at 0.03453
[2016-03-14 01:11:48] BitMEX_Arthur : BitcoinLIFE: If you have an issue, please send a support request and we can take a look
[2016-03-14 01:11:48] rapidtrades : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-03-14 01:12:16] habibi : yea, Dad will help u, he's a good guy. just dont panic
[2016-03-14 01:12:20] rapidtrades : look at withheld profit? got any?
[2016-03-14 01:12:48] BitcoinLIFE : rapidtrades: 0